DEBATING Taiwans Top Students | Is Taiwan a Country?!

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  • Is Taiwan a country?

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  • @constantineding8700
    @constantineding8700 Před 8 měsíci +56

    This shows how warped education works on even the brightes minds.
    Those students was taught to believe Taiwan was a country way before they have the ability of critical thinking. So when you you asked them why they thought so, they just came up with whatever came into their minds.

    • @user-lf1cv1wd5w
      @user-lf1cv1wd5w Před 8 měsíci

      唉😢

    • @wktang9680
      @wktang9680 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Quite the opposite, Taiwanese students do not have the imposed constraints all Mainland Chinese students have on how they think, they can better speak their mind than their Mainlander counterparts. Having said this, their insufficient English proficiency does make them sound awkward at times and they definitely haven't fully expressed themselves in these interviews.

    • @constantineding8700
      @constantineding8700 Před 8 měsíci

      How language skills made that guy blurted out that accent was the reason Taiwan was an independent country?
      If he had any serious thinking about this topic before, that word would never come into his mind.
      @@wktang9680

    • @user-hc3vu4vl1p
      @user-hc3vu4vl1p Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@wktang9680 吼~大陆思维受限制么?那为啥台湾那么多年轻人都一口一个台湾,他们的宪法却不遵守呢?这就是不受限制的地方么

    • @wktang9680
      @wktang9680 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@user-hc3vu4vl1p 你的觀點不值一駁。

  • @TAIWANPARTOFCHINA
    @TAIWANPARTOFCHINA Před 8 měsíci +17

    150 countries in BRI and there is 195 countries in the world. This says a lot about Xi's leadership 🐉🇨🇳

  • @user-wv1rk3mc8d
    @user-wv1rk3mc8d Před 8 měsíci +33

    就喜欢看这种打脸的视频,这些话大陆人说不得,也只有在外国人面前台湾人才不敢嘴硬,所以大陆的策略是对的,搞定美国,台湾自然回归

  • @amandachang634
    @amandachang634 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Love your questioning and points.

  • @ashethebostonterrier4918
    @ashethebostonterrier4918 Před 8 měsíci +19

    How did these kids even get in college? No critical thinking skill or basic history knowledge.

    • @user-hc3vu4vl1p
      @user-hc3vu4vl1p Před 8 měsíci +1

      课纲,在全中华文化的新课纲影响下,台湾孩子都这样

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      因為台灣這邊的教育把台灣視為民族國家了

    • @damianchang4812
      @damianchang4812 Před 6 měsíci

      Brain -washing

    • @mephisto2812
      @mephisto2812 Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-hc3vu4vl1p sad but true. they are being played by propaganda just to be sacrificed by the ones in power, just like ukraine.

  • @user-ws7sz4xf5m
    @user-ws7sz4xf5m Před 8 měsíci +6

    Very interesting. You’ve done a pretty good interview btw.

  • @user-tq1tk3lx8l
    @user-tq1tk3lx8l Před 8 měsíci +26

    accent那个怎么混进大学的 笑嘻了😂😂

  • @lollol-rq4mk
    @lollol-rq4mk Před 5 měsíci +2

    The accent argument is ridiculous. Taiwan folks speaking with a Minnan Dialect accent is exactly the same as their ancestors and brothers in Fujian province across the strait. That a "top calibre student" could give such a response goes to show the level of tertiary education on the island more than anything.

  • @naivoj122
    @naivoj122 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Still Chinese though. Know your roots and have a backbone.

  • @user-ws7sz4xf5m
    @user-ws7sz4xf5m Před 8 měsíci +7

    Well, who can tell me the
    reason Taiwan still haven’t been confirmed the country by UN as a well-developed place .

    • @user-ws7sz4xf5m
      @user-ws7sz4xf5m Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@evergreenhills Wait bro, u find the wrong target.

    • @TAIWAN_PROVINCE_CHINA
      @TAIWAN_PROVINCE_CHINA Před 7 měsíci

      因为发达过了头,街上都是摩托车,把联合国来视察的高官都吵得烦了,所以不让进了。

  • @donniez7103
    @donniez7103 Před 8 měsíci +21

    Yes, Taiwan is a country, it has its own constitution. Luke: But your constitution says 'one China'. That's the funny part. 😄

    • @suckmemore
      @suckmemore Před 8 měsíci

      they don't read constitution!

    • @wktang9680
      @wktang9680 Před 7 měsíci +3

      That's precisely a democracy like Taiwan should be. Only autocracy/dictatorship like China generates a people of generally identical views on matters. In contrast, the Taiwanese people freely express a variety of views on various matters, including political matters.

    • @poo_daa
      @poo_daa Před 7 měsíci

      it's not

    • @damianchang4812
      @damianchang4812 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@wktang9680No, only anti-china can be received, pro-china may be interrogated by 1450 and government.

  • @yojimbo3681
    @yojimbo3681 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Your own constitution says you're one country, and you still can't accept that. 2 different governments, but same country.

  • @moffatwatts6857
    @moffatwatts6857 Před 8 měsíci +8

    These boys, they don't know who they are 😂😂😂😂😂 it's really funny. I wish the T government has answers to those questions. Even me I m confused just like those guys. Because even American believe in one China.

  • @jenniferzhang864
    @jenniferzhang864 Před 7 měsíci +5

    The young Taiwanese are manipulated by the politicians. Their answers are embarrassing.
    The mainland Chinese youngsters are more confident and educated!

  • @louxuan1
    @louxuan1 Před 8 měsíci +18

    把他们问的cpu都烧了 哈哈

  • @maradon385
    @maradon385 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Clearly reveals the standard of education in Taiwan.

  • @MsOceanstar
    @MsOceanstar Před 2 měsíci

    I watched your interviews with the Mainland Chinese students in English. I hope i am not biased, the mainland Chinese seem to have a greater degree of confidence, and awareness! Thanks for doing this sort of interviews. Yeah…go right into history, challenge their answers, and make them clarify their answers further! 👍👍👍

  • @stanbimi
    @stanbimi Před 8 měsíci +14

    Never underestimate the impact of US-engineered Color Revolution initiatives. At their core lies a strategy of indoctrination, replacing traditional ideologies with the propaganda of concepts such as Absolute Personal Freedom, Freedom of Speech, and Democracy, particularly propagated through general elections. Key CIA successes in Europe include the disintegration of the Soviet Union and color revolutions in Poland and Ukraine. Although Hong Kong's color revolution posed a significant threat to China, it was ultimately quelled following the 2019 riots. In Taiwan, the eight-year rule of the DPP party, a proxy tool of the US influenced through the AIT (CIA-Taiwan), has resulted in the outlawing of certain opposition news media, the rewriting of numerous history textbooks in schools, and the establishment of DPP propaganda in major news channels. The university students interviewed are indicative of the enduring impact of years of systematic indoctrination.

  • @louxuan1
    @louxuan1 Před 8 měsíci +11

    nice job!👍

  • @jackychen5578
    @jackychen5578 Před 8 měsíci +15

    台湾的教育真不行,你的采访很棒,你对于他们来说,他们无法辩解,他们看你是外国人,但是如果是大陆人这么跟他们说或者是亲中的台湾人跟他们解释,他们还会继续狡辩不承认

    • @jayshung
      @jayshung Před 7 měsíci +1

      所以究竟谁被洗脑一目了然,只是他们不愿意承认而已😂

  • @beadingstation
    @beadingstation Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hey those who's asumed that Taiwan is not territory of China, please realize that the offical name of the autority on taiwan island is Republic of CHINA, ROC. Google it if you didn't know. This is the officially name stated in their constitution. And ROC's territory includes taiwan island as a province, entire Mainland China, and even more, it includes Mongolia. ROC considers even Mongolia is its territory according to its constitution. It's all in ROC's constitution which you called it Taiwan and thought it was an "independeant island country".
    There is only one CHINA in the world. Either People's Republic of China (PRC) on the mainland, or Republic of China (ROC) on the taiwan island, represents CHINA. There's never an independant country called Taiwan.
    There is not a single country in the world that establishes official foreign relationship with both sides. 182 contries has foreign relationship with PRC, and 13 contries with ROC. Zero with what you called Taiwan.
    CHINA is actually still in a cival war. The cival war between PRC and ROC (just like America's cival war between United States of American and Confederate States of America) has not ended since 1940's. The two sides across the straight has never signed any peace treaty, not even a cease fire agreement. They just stopped firing at each other and tried to sit down to negotiate for a peaceful reunification since 1980's. As of today, either side can start firing at the other side without any political or legal restriction since there's no peace treaty nor a cease fire agreement.

  • @Taiwan_Prospers_with_China
    @Taiwan_Prospers_with_China Před 8 měsíci +6

    LMAO...these kids are in denial 😂😂😂

  • @JianYZhong
    @JianYZhong Před 8 měsíci +2

    Looks like these students haven’t really thought through their position. Wasn’t there any students that say Taiwan is a province?

  • @user-we8gc2qk7c
    @user-we8gc2qk7c Před 4 měsíci

    You can apply your student visa at chinese embassy if you want to study in Taiwan

  • @Zerpentsa6598
    @Zerpentsa6598 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Demonstrated that most of these Taiwanese are not very well informed. China has many different cultures, 56 to be correct. Dizens if autonomous regions and different political systems called SARs. Lots of different languages and dialects. China also has many But they are still part of China.

  • @lbchen6160
    @lbchen6160 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I’m a high school student from a regular school in mainland China, and If this is so called top college, I would say my English is way better than theirs. Btw they seem have no logic in their mind at all

    • @Unnamed7964
      @Unnamed7964 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Such unjustified hostility and sense of superiority over your supposed Taiwanese brothers

    • @jayshung
      @jayshung Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Unnamed7964 Look, the Taiwanese brothers we think of are the people who also regard us as brothers, not the traitors like those fools in the video who forget their ancestors.

    • @Unnamed7964
      @Unnamed7964 Před 7 měsíci

      @@jayshungTraitors ? Why are you assuming they're unaware of their history and why would that make them traitors and worthy of hate? Your hatred towards those strangers is unjustified. I may not like the PRC, but I'm not going to hate normal citizens because i don't agree with them, even if they're brainwashed.

  • @lovelove-kw6vr
    @lovelove-kw6vr Před 8 měsíci +5

    台湾人很矛盾😂,自己都不能自圆其说,

    • @chihfantang9050
      @chihfantang9050 Před 8 měsíci +1

      欺負幾個路邊街頭訪問的大學生有什麼好說嘴的

    • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
      @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@chihfantang9050 怎麼欺負了?這就是正常的街坊啊!?民主自由?說實話不行?這幾個大學生回答的都像是做錯事一樣😂

    • @user-hc3vu4vl1p
      @user-hc3vu4vl1p Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@chihfantang9050 欺负什么了?宪法写着一种,非说台湾是国家,你要么承认你违法,要么承认你无知,到底欺负什么了?
      你自己回答下这问题好么?
      台湾不是国家,但凡在台湾是国家这一点上别扭的,你就是胡扯淡。
      台湾是地区,中华民国才是国名。
      台湾从来,以后也,永远不会是一个国家

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      那​問菜英文也一樣,你覺得她會怎麼回答@@chihfantang9050

  • @edwardchen9920
    @edwardchen9920 Před 8 měsíci +11

    It doesn't matter what they think. Before Japan ruled Taiwan, they never asked the locals for their opinion either, but in the end, it was all accepted. Even now, many Taiwanese people are still grateful for Japan's colonial rule.

    • @Miruku100
      @Miruku100 Před 6 měsíci

      Those people who grateful for Japan because they met a horrible government of Chiang, Kia-sha after Japanese government. Comparing with this, they prefer Japan! My father also think so.

    • @damianchang4812
      @damianchang4812 Před 6 měsíci

      Brain-washing is very successful in Taiwan, especially demonize kmt party.

  • @itsme2be
    @itsme2be Před 8 měsíci +10

    At least they don't deny the ROC constitution. There can be multiple governments governing different regions of the same country. That is the 1992 concensus. Disagree which government should rule the country, but agreeing that both regions belonging to China.

    • @MadPunchMan
      @MadPunchMan Před 8 měsíci +1

      If he rejects the Constitution, does that not imply a denial of Taiwan's status as a sovereign nation? The prolonged exposure to local education in Taiwan has, over the years, led to a divergence between their perceptions and the actual state of affairs. However, with time, these individuals, being youthful and energetic, may undergo a transformation in their understanding.

    • @jamiesmeaton
      @jamiesmeaton Před 6 měsíci

      So just amend the constitution to reflect reality? It's not written in stone tablets on a holy mountain...

  • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
    @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci +5

    哈哈哈 像小丑一樣!事實擺在眼前不願承認!他們好像不敢表達自己的觀點又或者不能自圓其說!沒有比這更有意思的事了😂
    希望中國大陸趕緊收復台灣❤❤

  • @ypw510
    @ypw510 Před 6 měsíci

    Taiwan is de facto a separate and independently operating nation, but they still hold firm to the belief that the ROC government is the true and only legal government of all of China. They've held to that for a long time, including previous times where legislators represented different provinces of mainland China, even with the official seat of government in Taipei.
    There's a lot of talk about official recognition, but in many ways that can be a smokescreen. They have a currency that is traded internationally, including in the PRC. They have trade and scheduled travel (including to/from mainland China) where they're effectively treated as a country. And ROC passport holders are afforded generous bilateral travel rights, including the ability to enter the United States and the UK (might have certain additional requirements) without a visa. They may not have that many official diplomatic relationships around the world, but they have excellent unofficial relationships, including with the PRC regarding trade and passenger transport.
    But in many ways this is kind of silly, like asking if Scotland is a country. It depends on who you ask.

  • @qilin-zt8kc
    @qilin-zt8kc Před 8 měsíci +1

    喜欢你的视频

  • @arthurhuang8978
    @arthurhuang8978 Před 4 měsíci

    Many thanks for shouting out for Taiwan's very own constitution!

  • @AlreadyHere-
    @AlreadyHere- Před 8 měsíci +7

    Province of Taiwan .

  • @eaglestar2962
    @eaglestar2962 Před 4 měsíci

    China has almost 60 different ethnic people and different dialects and culture.

  • @maneil9297
    @maneil9297 Před 7 měsíci

    Honestly, it's difficult to answer those questions

  • @hsiu4425
    @hsiu4425 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Clearly they dont even know their own constitutions ....😅

  • @juhsing
    @juhsing Před 6 měsíci +1

    You are so arrogant to expect them to think and speak well in English.

  • @OrionChou
    @OrionChou Před 8 měsíci

    Dude,I agree with you,just like I agree England is part of Scotland.

    • @Lynn-el3tv
      @Lynn-el3tv Před 8 měsíci

      Genius, you should be awarded for "the most omniscient people in the world".

  • @bigtimer4993
    @bigtimer4993 Před 8 měsíci +1

    cant believe they didn't read their constitution

    • @chihfantang9050
      @chihfantang9050 Před 8 měsíci +1

      哪個正常人走在路上會把憲法掛在嘴邊啊?
      除了愛國小粉紅以外

    • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
      @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci

      @@chihfantang9050 所以自己國家怎麼來的都不記住?你口口聲聲說台灣是國家但是自己憲法又記不住 不矛盾?邏輯呢?😂

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@chihfantang9050這是公民常識,公民課現在也還有教

    • @nytey
      @nytey Před 7 měsíci

      @@chihfantang9050dumb clown 🤡👈🏻🤣

  • @Thinkofwhat
    @Thinkofwhat Před 7 měsíci

    Good questions there…:)

  • @user-gw6fz4ee5e
    @user-gw6fz4ee5e Před 7 měsíci +8

    這就是考8分就能進的台灣大學😂🎉

  • @cellmate69
    @cellmate69 Před 4 měsíci

    Not so bright after all. Anyhow, if you look to the history. Unfortunately we live in cruel world. It’s doesn’t matter if your have different background, ethnicity or government. The stronger country will dictate the term. Look at Palestine, Hawaii, Australia, NZ, Mongol, France & many others. If you weak, stronger country will come and take what ever they want.

  • @chanhoong2073
    @chanhoong2073 Před 7 měsíci +1

    hilarious how Taiwanese know that they are not a country but said they are

  • @johnpartee7629
    @johnpartee7629 Před 7 měsíci

    Because they have their own standing army...and China has to conquer it if they want it...

    • @livinlavidaluke
      @livinlavidaluke  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Because they’re in a civil war, it’s not officially over, of course they have militaries fighting…
      Did US break up into different countries during American Civil war?

    • @horai8256
      @horai8256 Před 2 měsíci

      @@livinlavidalukeus didn’t but many others did. Take North Korea and South Korea for example. Yes, civil war is not over, and that’s exactly why Taiwan is not part of PRC yet.

    • @madinggg
      @madinggg Před 2 měsíci

      @@horai8256Actually,South Korea and North Korea still on War😅 Both goverment claim that they own the Korea peninsula

    • @horai8256
      @horai8256 Před 2 měsíci

      @@madinggg well, this actually supports Taiwan’s independence even more, because Taiwan can be as independent as South Korea or North Korea. No one is arguing about independence of either Korea, right.

  • @drjamesallen6012
    @drjamesallen6012 Před 7 měsíci +2

    In the our actual world, there are TWO Chinas, just like north and South Korea, East and West Germany. It’s just that nobody recognises the other China (Republic of China AKA “Taiwan”) 😂

  • @nnf9431
    @nnf9431 Před měsícem

    Taiwan culturally is very close to the Fujianese lol

  • @mabanomet9879
    @mabanomet9879 Před 8 měsíci +3

    This guys are so LOST

  • @siquod
    @siquod Před měsícem

    Is mainland China a country then?

  • @celite5091
    @celite5091 Před měsícem

    Nice job!

  • @tiro_taiwan
    @tiro_taiwan Před 8 měsíci +4

    Philosophically speaking, there is no standard answer to what a thing is when it is without society, so that's why people make rules to tell what the fact is.
    According to Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States, Taiwan(ROC) has all elements to be a country, that's why it is.
    Of course you could against the Convention. Everyone has their own view, but that does not affect the nature of a thing or others' perspectives.
    Wait, I thought of a good topic proposal. What about also doing a interview on the streets of China and ask why China is a country? I wonder what the answer it would be.

    • @apolloleo9801
      @apolloleo9801 Před 8 měsíci

      你不要在这混着用台湾和ROC,想浑水摸鱼是吧,你们所谓的ROC的宪法说台湾是国家了吗? ROC的宪法说的国家疆域是只有台湾吗? 在ROC的宪法里不是认为台湾是ROC的一个省吗? 你连基本的宪法都过不了关 你说什么有所有的国家元素 huh ? 更何况ROC现在不过是一个自认为国家级别的政权而已,除了你们自嗨以外 , 只有几个用钱买来的所谓邦交国承认,根本没有其他国家承认你们,我知道这样把现实揭开会很伤普通台湾人的自尊心,毕竟你们从小也是被洗脑了,不容易很快接受认知的改变。 但接受不接受这就是事实。还有国民党当初带走了 大陆当时的财政黄金 文物无数,台湾的经济辉煌期也是国民党时期过去的人创造的,大陆完全可以以颠覆分裂国家罪没收他们的所有财产,你们还是先把这些帐先还给大陆再来说嘴吧

    • @user-lf1cv1wd5w
      @user-lf1cv1wd5w Před 8 měsíci

      具備要素???所以囉,台灣是中國的領土,還沒獨立

    • @tiro_taiwan
      @tiro_taiwan Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@user-lf1cv1wd5w
      If you are talking about the Taiwan independence movement, then yes Taiwan is still the territory of ROC, hasn't independent yet.
      However you should know the Taiwan here is the country official named Republic of China. It is an equivocation, do I really need to teach u the language logic?

    • @user-lf1cv1wd5w
      @user-lf1cv1wd5w Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@tiro_taiwan 你可以活在幻覺裡,欺騙自己,何必呢?

    • @tiro_taiwan
      @tiro_taiwan Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-lf1cv1wd5w Well, I won't argue with you if you think that world is living in a fantasy.

  • @sayaandyangsaya2756
    @sayaandyangsaya2756 Před 7 měsíci

    Yes, Taiwan is a Country which own China mainland.
    Taiwanese own the mainland China, it same like the Chinese peoples at mainland China own Taiwan too.

  • @user-lf1cv1wd5w
    @user-lf1cv1wd5w Před 8 měsíci +1

    Chinese Taipei 😅

  • @pat5212
    @pat5212 Před 8 měsíci +5

    一個來自青年失業率50%國度的採訪
    中華民國臺灣是個de facto state
    有自己的領土、政府、主權、軍隊
    持護照免簽證可前往的國家地區143個
    即使尚未受到廣泛承認
    但也絕對不隸屬於PRC

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      免簽的原因是台灣算比較富裕,跟國力無關

    • @chihfantang9050
      @chihfantang9050 Před 8 měsíci +1

      富裕也是國力一部分啊 哪來的邏輯

    • @OwO-meow-UwU
      @OwO-meow-UwU Před 7 měsíci

      @@rgohoo不可能 中國人不會說台灣富裕 他們都說台灣還未開化 怎麼可能富裕

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 7 měsíci

      @@chihfantang9050 國力是總體的,像是印度雖然貧窮但是軍事和國力上是僅次於5常的

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@OwO-meow-UwU 台灣的問題在於停滯

  • @yerri5567
    @yerri5567 Před 7 měsíci

    Too short 😂

  • @tiro_taiwan
    @tiro_taiwan Před 8 měsíci +1

    Seems like no many people worry about this question as most of the aliens assume Taiwan as country by default.

    • @amazingstudioedit
      @amazingstudioedit Před 8 měsíci

      那为什么不建交啊?

    • @tiro_taiwan
      @tiro_taiwan Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@amazingstudioedit Because there is a great threaten next to Taiwan.

    • @pat5212
      @pat5212 Před 8 měsíci

      @@amazingstudioedit南北韓怎麽不建交呢
      ROK vs PRK
      ROC vs PRC

    • @jayshung
      @jayshung Před 7 měsíci

      @@pat5212他问的所谓的认为台湾是国家的国家怎么不和台湾建交,什么理解力。。。

  • @georgetreharne2913
    @georgetreharne2913 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I love China ❤

  • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
    @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci +3

    這個話題 博主可以多發一點 打爛台灣人的嘴臉😂😂😂

  • @g.c955
    @g.c955 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Taiwan has not declare independence and fight for it with blood, but it probably won't succeed though 😅

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 Před 8 měsíci +1

      DPP will "amend" the ROC constitution in order to stage a "referendum" on "independence" ... and then officially declare it .
      ROC 🇹🇼 Armed Forces must refute and rebuke attempts by DPP to trick them to follow and obey the "wishes of the people" .

    • @evergreenhills
      @evergreenhills Před 8 měsíci +3

      Taiwan is a place name, ok? Like you can not call USA as Washington or New York. Dare they call themselves Republic of China by their law????

  • @YJ-wh8lr
    @YJ-wh8lr Před 8 měsíci

    I also hope Taiwan is belong to China…. But how come President Xi can’t even go to his so called province of China aka Taiwan …. Zzz

    • @yerri5567
      @yerri5567 Před 7 měsíci

      @YJ-wh8lr Because the Chinese Civil War has not officially ended yet. What? Did you want it to resume and finished once and for all before youre happy?

  • @Unnamed7964
    @Unnamed7964 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Taiwan falls politically within the definition of country but declaring official indipendence may bring security risks so they pretend they're not to keep the current status quo. Taiwan is a separate indipendent political entity from mainland China, the PRC has no authority over the ROC, the two are adversaries and both claim to be the true government of all of China. Taiwan also has de facto water borders with the PRC. the Taiwanese passport not only is accepted worldwide except for 2-3 countries, but it's also more powerful than the chinese one.

    • @yerri5567
      @yerri5567 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @stefanogabbani3399 "Taiwan falls politically within the definition of country but declaring official indipendence may bring security risks"
      We cant be politically ignorant on a political topic. Taiwan specifically refers to the island, and island only. "Taiwans" governments very own constitution refers to Taiwan as a province of China. Taiwans government, Republic of China (ROC) is already "independent". If youre referring to Taiwan island being independent from Republic of China, then that will never happen as thats unconstitutional. Itll be treason under their own laws to even consider that.
      "Taiwan is a separate indipendent political entity from mainland China, the PRC has no authority over the ROC"
      Separate entity, yes. Separate country? No.
      Its called the Chinese Civil War for a reason. Civil war meaning war within the SAME country. So by definition, they cant be "another" country.
      "the Taiwanese passport not only is accepted worldwide except for 2-3 countries, but it's also more powerful than the chinese one"
      That is not a requirement for a country to be a country. For a country to be a country, there needs to be diplomatic recognition. An important checkbox that almost no one talks about. If this checkbox didnt exist, there would be millions of tiny little new countries popping up in this world. In the US alone, there are plenty of people that want their block of land to be their own country. They even have their own "government", "laws", "military", "passports", "education", etc. But theyre not called "countries" because theyre not recognised by the UN.

    • @Unnamed7964
      @Unnamed7964 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@yerri5567 It may disappoint you, but no compelling counterargument has been presented in your response to challenge my initial assertion that Taiwan fits the political definition of a country.
      Beware that I'm not necessarily implying that Taiwan is a recognised country; In my first comment I explicitly expressed that Taiwan simply fits the criteria to be defined as such.
      If we both acknowledge that Taiwan is a distinct independent political entity separate from mainland China, then logically, maintaining consistency would lead you to agree that the current political status of Taiwan aligns with the definition of a country.
      Definition of country (according to Oxford's dictionary) = a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. The current political situation of Taiwan fullfills this definition.
      Taiwan may not be considered or get recognised as country, but it gets treated as such.
      UN recognition is not necessary to be a de facto country, what is expressed and recognised officially is irrelevant to what happens in reality.
      To conclude, if Taiwan were to officially declare statehood tomorrow, politically, nothing substantial would change. Taiwan already has all the necessary elements to function as an indipendent country. Logically, if officially declaring independence poses risks, then they will avoid doing it for now, but that doesn't mean that Taiwan isn't committed in maintaining its de facto country status, even with force.
      The PRC has warned against Taiwan declaring independence, yet Taiwan is already independent. The notion that an official declaration would significantly alter the island's political situation is a misconception held by the PRC.
      Lastly, if Taiwan officially declares indipendence, The PRC wouldn't be able to do anything practically speaking, since the PRC has no authority in the island as of 05/01/24. PRC only has war as a reliable option to have authority in the island.

    • @Ateshtesh
      @Ateshtesh Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Unnamed7964 In Taiwan constitution they say that their territory is the island of taiwan and the mainland China.
      Also Taiwan sign the agreement of only one china policy while still call themselves as the real China R.O.C.
      Also ONU, USA, and mostly all the countries of the world recognize them as part of mainland China (PROC), and the PROC as the real China.
      In international policy, when you have political relationship with Taiwan, you are not recognizing them as "independent" but as "the real china", which means you recognized ROC but not PROC as the real China.
      That is the reason why when you recognize PROC (mainland China) as the real China you lost a level of diplomatic relationship with the (ROC) Taiwan (and vise versa).
      (It means you can have embassy of only one of them and a consulate of the other but never and embassy of both of them, because you cannot have 2 different embassy of the same country).
      Also Taiwan NEVER declared their independence. NEVER. There is not an independence declaration of themselves as "Taiwan" or as a different country, even in their OWN constitution they call themselves ROC and not Taiwan.
      Also in the passport of their citizens they are R.O.C (Republic of China) citizens, not Taiwan.
      Even more, their national day is still the day when ROC was created, day and year when ROC was created IN MAINLAND CHINA, and still use the flag that they created IN THE MAINLAND CHINA.
      Then not on speeches, but looking from historical perspective, legal perspective, international relationship perspective ROC and PROC are 2 different government that claims the same territory.
      That has a name, is called civil war.
      Then ROC and PROC are still in a civil war that didn't end. (That is the real status).
      I pointing all this because your commentary:
      "Taiwan may not be considered or get recognised as country, but it gets treated as such."
      Of course! is recognized as a country, as "The real China" for some countries and treated as such. (really few countries in the world by the way).
      And also this commentary:
      "The PRC has warned against Taiwan declaring independence, yet Taiwan is already independent. The notion that an official declaration would significantly alter the island's political situation is a misconception held by the PRC. "
      That is a bad argument, China was really poor by decades, and Taiwan could perfectly declared their independence long time ago without to be afraid of a PROC attack.
      But they didn't do it, they still attached to the "One China Principle", they still claim mainland as theirs and they still call themselves as "the real china".
      Even if they not declare themselves as the real China, nothing stop them to stop to claim the mainland China in their constitution, but they still claim it as theirs.
      Then that argument of "they are independent but they not declare their independence to avoid a unnecessary war" is incomplete and NOT explain all the rest of situations that I already expose here.
      If they really wanted to be independent they would do it long time ago, but they put themselves in a legal situation in which recognize the one China policy (it means a China that is made by mainland and the island of Taiwan) and if they abandon that, technically it will be a secession (by the same principles signed by the own ROC).
      1992 Consensus practically claims that PROC or ROC is owner of all mainland China and the Taiwan island, but they are not two different countries.
      Then you can come with all the "definitions" of a country and the "feeling" of the people that you want but that cannot change the history, the agreements and the legal status of Taiwan which is that at the end what defines the reality.

    • @Unnamed7964
      @Unnamed7964 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Ateshtesh I appreciate the engagement but you just replied with points irrelevant to my initial statement, none of your arguments discredit or challenge directly my statement (that Taiwan's current political status fits the definition of country)
      At no point i did imply that Taiwan has officially declared indipendence or that they are an official country in legal terms. My argument is simply that Taiwan in practice, operates and gets treated like a country, even though officially and legally it is not considered so. I did not imply anything else, when i said Taiwan is indipendent, i did not mean it in the official sense, but in the practical sense. Taiwan operates like a country, this is essentially my argument; I'm already aware that legally speaking ROC and PRC adhere to the one China policy, and both claim the chinese nation, however in practice there's no one China policy established yet, there's the mainland controlled by the PRC, and Taiwan controlled by ROC. In this case, official documents are not enforced and do not represent the practical situation, this is why i said earlier that an official declaration wouldn't change anything practically politically speaking.
      I don't agree with your closing statement, legal documents and agreements do not always define reality as this very case of Taiwan shows; treaties and agreements often get violated by literally everyone when possible, the practical situation is what defines reality by definition. This is pure logic.
      It is clear that the PRC won't be able to persuade taiwan in being annexed because the one china policy says so; as i said earlier, PRC lacks authority in taiwan to do anything legally speaking. War is the only reliable option for the PRC to impose its authority in the island.

    • @yerri5567
      @yerri5567 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Unnamed7964 "no compelling counterargument has been presented in your response to challenge my initial assertion that Taiwan fits the political definition of a country."
      Not compelling to _you,_ but compelling enough for the UN and the rest of the world powers.
      It does not fit into the criteria because it does not have enough diplomatic relations with other countries. Simple as that. Thats the argument youre ignoring. As mentioned earlier, its the final straw (final criteria) that most people in this world tend to ignore.
      "If we both acknowledge that Taiwan is a distinct independent political entity separate from mainland China, then logically, maintaining consistency would lead you to agree that the current political status of Taiwan aligns with the definition of a country"
      Consistency? What consistency? How about the consistency on the definition on what a civil war is, that is, a war within the SAME country. So no, ROC is not "another country" but rather the predecessing government of the SAME country called China.
      "Definition of country (according to Oxford's dictionary) = a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. The current political situation of Taiwan fullfills this definition"
      It may disappoint you, but not every country in this world agrees with that definition. Its so broad and wishy washy that anything can be a "country". What is a nation? A nation is "a country considered as a group of people with the same language, culture, and history, who live in a particular area under one government". By that definition, my family and its block of land for one could be its own "country". Are we a "country"? Is this not a counterargument that you said I didnt present you? In my last line, I literally said 'In the US alone, there are plenty of people that want their block of land to be their own country. They even have their own "government", "laws", "military", "passports", "education", etc'. Looks like youre cherry picking points to read then say I have no counterarguments. For a country to be a country, there needs to recognised by the world/UN. Thats the final criteria youre conveniently ignoring.
      "UN recognition is not necessary to be a de facto country, what is expressed and recognised officially is irrelevant to what happens in reality"
      De facto country is not a country. There are plenty of villages/towns/tribes/families in this world that function like a de facto country. They de facto a country too? If thats the case then there are literally millions of countries in this world...
      "To conclude, if Taiwan were to officially declare statehood tomorrow, politically, nothing substantial would change"
      "Taiwan" or ROC? Taiwan is a *PART of* ROC, not _"is" ROC._ First of all, ROC is already a state. Theres no need to "declare" that theyre a state. But if youre talking about "Taiwan" as in the island, it would be treason to make that declaration under ROCs laws and constitution. And KMT party and its supporters would reject that assertion, so that would be impossible even if they did it through the proper channels n attempt to change the laws/constitution.
      But *IF* they did do so forcefully, then civil uproar within Taiwan would ensue. You call that "nothing substantial would change"?
      "Logically, if officially declaring independence poses risks, then they will avoid doing it for now"
      You seem to like talking about Taiwan, yet know nothing about Taiwan. Theres no "if". Taiwan has already addressed this issue. Their response is, theres no need "declare" independence because ROC is already independent. Unless youre talking about Taiwan island being independent from ROC, which you didnt clearly state, then thats another story.
      "The PRC has warned against Taiwan declaring independence, yet Taiwan is already independent"
      Youre either confused or not being very clear on your worlds. PRC is talking about Taiwan independence from "China". ROC is already independent and claims to be "China". But Taiwan island is not (independent), its dependent on ROC. Taiwan island is part of "China". Which "China"? Not important for this particular point, but regardless, what RPC means is independent from "China" (Which "China" is up for interpretation").
      "Lastly, if Taiwan officially declares indipendence, The PRC wouldn't be able to do anything legally speaking, since the PRC has no authority in the island as of 05/01/24. PRC only has war as a reliable option to have authority in the island"
      Wrong. Under the UN, they do. Its recognised by the world and the UN that the territory of Taiwan island is part of China.
      So if they do use force, its a matter of resuming the Chinese Civil War. Remember, civil war meaning war within the SAME country. And obviously in a civil war, theres territory that one power "controls" or have "authority" over that the other party does not.

  • @tigerfist2864
    @tigerfist2864 Před 8 měsíci +1

    tbh I blame mainland China's policies in the last 20 years because they are too conservative n slow in educating people in Taiwan province, China is too focus about economy or conservative military rather than focus in soft power or pop culture to conquer the world ,like taiwan did in early 2000s or south korea today ,Chinese govt is too paranoid n create many sensorship which stifles creativity of young people,which makes china looks unpopular in taiwan or the world , china should let young people free to express themself and make china looks very friendly n welcome for everyone , i read lot chinese comment in social media the reason why chinese pop culture is left behind compared to japan or korea, its because censorship in the name of "harmony" , young chinese cant freely make anything too sensitive in movies,music or humour , also chinese pop culture is too conservative only about traditional but they didnt try create new iconic character combine with modern lifestyle in movies or music just like japan did , china should Thinking outside the box u cant always let govt tell what u can or cant do ,its boring !
    china don't realize in the last 20 years, a new generation has been born in Taiwan, this is the result of Taiwan propaganda in schools that teach children with new mindset. "taiwan is a country" also they more enjoy japan or korean pop culture , i remember when i was a teenager in the early 2000s many young people in taiwan still believed that they were also chinese, even in old videos tsai ing wen said she was chinese!
    all I can say is that China must do something immediately , At any cost, peaceful reunification must be achieved before it is too late, because in the next 10 - 20 years things will be even more difficult. why ? because taiwan propaganda have a plan to teach all kids english language, they want create another new generation who can speak more in world stage ,the only way counter this China also shoud make all young people so critical ,confident and can speak n understand english !
    and most important don't be provoked into war because this is what America wants

    • @jayshung
      @jayshung Před 7 měsíci +1

      Totally agree with you, but unfortunately, so far it seems like there is no any other way to reunify peacefully without war.

    • @jasonreviews
      @jasonreviews Před 7 měsíci

      All the soft power was in hong kong. Taiwan modeled most of it from Hong kong. LMFAO

    • @tigerfist2864
      @tigerfist2864 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@jasonreviews yes u right, and hk is not just taiwan modeled ,but also model for skorea n japan in 80s-90s, but remember the reason why hongkong soft power very superior in 70s to late 90s its because mainland china didnt really control hk entertainment industry but since the handover of hongkong in 1997s and 2019 make it worst ,everything slowly changing and now unable to compete with japan or south korea soft power
      hongkong is chinese small symbol what if the whole china have freedom of expression , now imagine if the whole china just like hongkong ?? even when we know it hongkong was very success but seems ego of prc politicians don't want to admit that , they prefer to confine the thoughts of mainland chinese mindset (because only in this way the communist party can survive,like selling the old story of japan war criminal ) they dont really want young people to move on for better future , now everything almost too late n getting more complicated

    • @damianchang4812
      @damianchang4812 Před 6 měsíci

      China government need to control internet and review speech, otherwise the security of society would be destroyed be CIA.

  • @gyinlion7437
    @gyinlion7437 Před 7 měsíci +1

    很简单,台湾是中华民国台湾省,目前是这样的。现在已经有两个中国了,一个是中华人民共和国,一个是中华民国,也就是台湾。爱统一不统一,台湾不承认两个国家一个是因为大陆是沦陷区,有朝一日是要收复失地的(就那么个意思),所以不是两个国家,对岸是伪政权。还有一个原因是,台湾要依附于大陆,因为经济来往,如果彻底撕破脸皮台湾也没有好果子吃。但是,确实是两个中国。

    • @jayshung
      @jayshung Před 7 měsíci +1

      不,是一个「中国」两种表述,即「中华人民共和国」和「中华民国」,内战一日未结束,台湾一日不修宪,就不存在「两国」

    • @gyinlion7437
      @gyinlion7437 Před 7 měsíci

      @@jayshung 你说的这种情况不就是两方互不承认对方国家存在么,那如果说韩国和朝鲜互不承认对方存在,都认为只有一个Korea,那你说是一个朝鲜还是两个朝鲜?

    • @jayshung
      @jayshung Před 7 měsíci

      @@gyinlion7437 国共内战目前处于未停战的状态,两地政府互不承认,而不是两国。南北朝鲜是在世界是被广泛承认的国家。而台湾,除了几个金元外交的小国,全世界几百个国家还谁承认有个「台湾国」?

    • @benson2009
      @benson2009 Před 6 měsíci

      Just calm your horses, we are all from EARTH

    • @gyinlion7437
      @gyinlion7437 Před 6 měsíci

      so what?@@benson2009

  • @cashmerecat9269
    @cashmerecat9269 Před 8 měsíci +6

    They should have a DNA check and see what they're truly are.

    • @raideepu4
      @raideepu4 Před 8 měsíci +2

      They think they are yankees

  • @seanburns3862
    @seanburns3862 Před 8 měsíci

    台湾就是中国的自治领,比如美国、英国、法国,它们也有很多海外自治领,那些自治领有高度自治权,但是它们的归属属于宗主😂

    • @chihfantang9050
      @chihfantang9050 Před 8 měsíci

      你講的根本是錯的,中華人民共和國沒有對台灣地區有任何的合法管轄權

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      其實有因為在國際上台灣的外交名義都是中國中華民國​@@user-ld9zm4vo6d

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@chihfantang9050有聲稱的且合法,符合國際法

  • @O_Y_P
    @O_Y_P Před 8 měsíci +1

    蔣介石父子對這些日本皇民太仁慈

  • @chihfantang9050
    @chihfantang9050 Před 8 měsíci +2

    先說啦,你用英文問隨機街訪怎麼可以預期非英文母語的人可以跟你對答如流?
    身為一個英文使用者,用英文bully非母語者,想必讓你獲得很多優越感吧?
    加上你本身會中文,你發這個影片除了嘲笑你挑出來的台大學生以外,我看不出來任何意義
    這種低素質的問題,你用中文問,保證在台大很多人可以跟你說個沒完
    況且還不能排除你是不是只挑了你想要的片段剪輯而已
    台灣目前不是國家,我們國家國號是中華民國,根據中華民國憲法,大陸地區為固有疆域,目前由中華人民共和國實際統治
    所以嚴格來說我們仍處在內戰當中
    會自稱台灣人是因為講中華民國太拗口,又很容易被跟中華人民共和國PRC搞混,加上兩岸分治,ROC實際統治區域就是在台灣
    英國人會每天說自己是「大不列顛暨北愛爾蘭聯合王國」人嗎?
    我個人覺得這樣很不方便,所以沒錯,台灣目前不是國家,但我希望有一天他是
    中華民國有自己的政府,自己的軍隊,自己的主權,所以你可以說台灣省,但是是中華民國台灣省,但是中華民國已經精省了,省這個概念在中華民國國內已經虛級化,所以我們才沒有台灣省的說法
    中華民國當然是一個國家,一個國家要素為人民領土政府主權
    我們全部都有,所以ROC當然是一個國家,但不是PRC
    這個跟你老闆習近平說的台灣省完全不同,對岸只是在混淆視聽,PRC可以有中華人民共和國台灣省,但是沒有實際治權,講白了就是說來自爽的
    目前大陸地區居民無法自由進出中華民國固有疆域,你怎麼會說他們是同一個「國家」?
    如果對岸有意見,歡迎來打仗,打贏了你們居民就能來了,還可以改高鐵,換身分證,勝者為王
    但是很明顯對岸從1949年都沒有成功打來過,所以打贏了再說好嗎?
    沒有預期你聽得懂,反正也不關你這個老外的事,兩岸一打仗,你這個洋五毛一定跑第一個,看你到時多愛中國
    真的那麼愛中國,你可以考慮移民,加入中國人民解放軍,解放臺灣島的重責大任就交給你了
    台灣選舉快到了,這個時間來台灣發這些影片,其心可議,你是收了共產黨多少錢?

    • @mechwarr31907
      @mechwarr31907 Před 8 měsíci

      我猜他聞到了新YT密碼

    • @user-qv9pc3ee2o
      @user-qv9pc3ee2o Před 8 měsíci +3

      所以用英語你們就好好交流 用中文就不願意承認事實是吧?用中文就非要死杠到底?
      呵呵,果然不要臉 崇洋媚外🤢
      另外你說的對 我希望我們中華民國才是代表中國的唯一合法政府 我希望中華民國早日解放大陸!重現我中華昔日榮光!讓我們華夏民族立足世界之巔!
      而不是中華民國天天只會舔美國人的臭腳 而不是天天把仇人倭國人當朋友!可現在 中華民國當初的口號早就沒了 還有臉提什麼中華民國?我已經失去希望了!!!
      要麼中華民國反攻大陸
      要麼中共解放台灣
      我是民族派!我只認中國
      至於民國也好中共也罷 無所謂
      不過現在顯然中華民國不指望了
      希望大陸趕緊解放台灣❤ 我願貢獻所有身家!
      當然如果中華民國反攻大陸 我也可以貢獻全部身家❤

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci +1

      台灣不可能獨立,獨立台灣會很慘

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      對了 台灣之所以說現在的狀態還不是因為美國干預,不然台灣在韓戰之前財政就會虧空,無法維持下去,只能接受統一

  • @michaeltse321
    @michaeltse321 Před 7 měsíci

    Doesn't matter what people think. It all comes down to who has the biggest army - lol - in real life it's the big dog rules - ask Ukraine - lol

  • @CPays
    @CPays Před 8 měsíci +2

    China bots go brrrrrrr😂

  • @mikebo3775
    @mikebo3775 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Funny interview, A country should be defined by its constitution, right? For this sake, Taiwan is not a country obviously, as Taiwan's consitution says it's part of Republic of China.

    • @pat5212
      @pat5212 Před 8 měsíci +4

      By saying Taiwan’s constitution, you agree ROC and Taiwan are same thing. Neither of them belong to PRC.

    • @user-hc3vu4vl1p
      @user-hc3vu4vl1p Před 8 měsíci

      @@pat5212 你错了。去看中华民国宪法。
      中华民国宪法规定,中华民国包括台湾地区和大陆地区,统称中华民国。
      中华人民共和国宪法规定,同样是台湾地区和大陆地区,统称中华人民共和国。
      双方就是彼此互相拥有,自始至终,这就是内战未结束,无论是中华民国还是中华人民共和国,都在为成为中华文明的正统努力。
      当然,台湾现在不行不想努力,要独立,但首先你要修宪,然后等待战争,哪个独立战争没打仗呢?美国独立战争是靠嘴吹赢的?

    • @pat5212
      @pat5212 Před 8 měsíci +3

      1. My point is still valid. If Taiwan is not a country, why would @mikebo3775 said “Taiwan’s constitution says …”? Apparently you also agree it’s a de facto state so that you use both Taiwan and ROC interchangeably.
      2. Apparently you are one who didn’t read the ROC constitution. 《中華民國憲法》第四條規定「中華民國領土,依其固有之疆域,非經國民大會之決議,不得變更之。」憲法和法律並無明文定義「固有疆域」的範圍
      3. You know better what to do than rest of us. I have no choice but to confirm you are a taidu supporter.

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@pat5212但是中華民國和中華人民共和國都是“中國”
      所以最後是會要統一其政權的,不然這樣國家是不穩定且非法的

    • @rgohoo
      @rgohoo Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@pat5212中華民國憲法並沒有刪掉大陸領土,不然幹嘛還設立陸委會 ?

  • @suckmemore
    @suckmemore Před 8 měsíci

    they don't teach constitution. ha.....................