Look at the antique pieces on display in the museums in Taiwan; they are all (100%) brought over from China by the KMT in 1949. They are dating their history from the time of ancient China. Not part of China??
The KMT has been in Taiwan since the end of WW2. THAT'S ALL! Seventy something years. The KMT's claim that Taiwan is Chinese and been an inalienable part of China for millennia is just as fascist, totalitarian and absurd as the CCP's claim. Taiwan belongs to the indigenous Taiwanese and the Min-speaking descendants of Fujian migrants who started drifting over to Taiwan after the Manchu took control of the island.
you are so native. They think China Mainland must be the dictatorship that the KMT was to Taiwan for decades. So they can't imagine China is a free place. LOL@@user-rt6ip4kb1i
A breakaway province of China whose official name is the REPUBLIC OF CHINA (ROC). Government in exile by Chiang Kai-shek’s own faction of the KMT/Nationalists since their humiliating loss from the post-WW2 Chinese Civil War vs the CPC on the Chinese mainland. A former Japanese outpost too like the Korean peninsula. We applaud the pro-mainland faction, the Revolutionary Committee of the Chinese Kuomintang (RCCK), for staying and believing in the CPC’s vision of a peaceful reunification. One of the 8 non-Communist parties under the United Front coalition.
Thank you! You are absolutely right. I was born and grew up in Taiwan, and resent the ruling DPP for bastardizing and distorting the narrative of the Republic of China (Taiwan). Thank you for speaking out for many silent Taiwanese like me! I should also add that the 13 tiny countries, Nauru, Eswatini, etc., that recognize so-called "Taiwan" do not recognize Taiwan, but like everyone else, they recognize the One China Principle, with the Republic of China (ROC) being its sole representative, and Taiwan being one of its provinces. There is exactly zero country in the world that recognizes "Taiwan".
history repeats itself, the Ming Dynasty held out in Taiwan before the Qing Dynasty reunified Taiwan back to Mainland China. The ROC is today's Ming Dynasty.
True, no country recognizes Taiwan! Taiwan is the geographical name of the region that the ROC governs. Those 13 tiny countries, which are funded by ROC, Taiwan and backed by the USA, recognize the ROC represent the whole China and the rest 180 UN member countries recognize the PRC represents China.
Being "recognized" by other countries isn't a requirement to be an independent country. The whole world treats Taiwan as an independent country because it is. Even China doesn't dare set foot on Taiwan. Do you see an PLA soldiers in Taiwan? Do Taiwanese pay taxes to Beijing or Taipei? Does America sell Billions in military equipment to Taiwan or China?
@@markcarson3215 you are hilarious! You could entitle yourself as a king at your own house but you are nobody since nobody recognizes you as a king. You self-comfort that being recognized by others isn’t a requirement to be a king🤣 🤣
@@jenniferzhang864 "no Countries recognize Taiwan" when China is in the room. But the reality is, Taiwan is treated exactly like a country. Trade deals are made with Taiwan, Billions in arms are sold to Taiwan, Taiwan prints its own currency and passports and has a capitalistic economy and democratic elections. Not to mention, the majority of the population are not asking to be part of China. But let's believe you for a moment and go with "Being recognized by other isn't a requirement to be a king/country" In what way, (and just name 1 or 2 important ones) is Taiwan not treated like a country? Now I know you want to say something like "formal diplomatic recognition with embassies etc" but of course we know that some countries do have embassies in Taiwan and vice versa not to mention Taiwan has TECO offices all over the world which do everything an embassy does. But we will wait for your answer. Please let us know the significant ways that Taiwan is not treated like a country with a king/president? Thank you Ms. Zhang
There are restrictions in areas around presidential residence and offices as in any other countries. You can go film White House but at certain times distance. Don’t twist freedom as lawless.
Most of US and Western Counterparts either were ignorant about our history or choose to be politically correct for the purpose to further their agenda. But thanks for speaking out against the odds my friend. Kudos to you. And I hope more Westerners could learn to be more open and forthcoming as you are, not mixing facts with politics. The US and their allies wants unity amongst themselves, yet at the same breath preach division amongst other races. That's pukingly disgusting.
They have done this type of division work in many countries such as Korea, Vietnam, Sudan, Pakistan, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, it’s working pretty well. Their tactics has worked on China too with division of Taiwan and previously Hong Kong.
@@tigerwild1164I agree that the politicians know the truth but the average Americans watching the news and listening to their favorite politician have no clue to the history and truth of China and Taiwan. That is why the average voters are easily manipulated.
This is what i have been arguing with the denials. Taiwan has always been part of China. And it was returned to China. Doesnt matter which party is in power. If DPP is the incumbent, they would administer China and that includes all the territory that belongs to China. Saying that CPC has never govern Taiwan, thus Taiwan do not belong to China is just BS and total nonsense. If this holds any water at all, there are a lot states eligible to break away from their country.
Interesting video, but there are some points that need further consideration: It is true that Taiwan (ROC) is not recognised as a country and that they're an adversary of the PRC over the one China policy and that they're technically in a state of war. However, this needs to be clarified; the current real world situation is that Taiwan (ROC) operates its territory with such a degree of autonomy and jurisdiction that only countries like the UK, or France do; the current political status of the island classifies Taiwan(ROC) as a de facto country. This last statement has been controversial to some I talked to in your comment section but it's just a fact. Almost nobody recognises Taiwan officially, because doing so will automatically make you not recognise the PRC and vice versa, you can only recognise one of these diplomatically, recognising the PRC simply brings more benefits; additionally, official recognition is not needed to have relations with Taiwan (ROC) unlike the PRC, so it's better in every country's interest to recognise the PRC so they can have relations with both. Even without official recognition Taiwan (ROC) maintains robust unofficial diplomatic relations with the USA, Japan and some EU countries; these relations bring arms sales, economic relationships and cooperation. Deliberate Strategic ambiguity is the strategy adopted by the US in this case, on one hand they say they adhere to the one China policy and recognise the PRC, on the other hand they sell weapons and trade with the ROC, Joe Biden even affirmed once he would defend Taiwan militarly; I'm not sure if he was correct, my point is that the US is deliberately ambiguous in the attempt to discourage the PRC from forcefully annexing Taiwan (ROC) without directly challenging the PRC. In essence, the US is trying to support Taiwan's (roc) de facto sovereignty without directly challenging China (prc). Taiwan is amazing at manufacturing chips by the way: Apple, Qualcomm, Nvidia, ARM, AMD, Intel, Mediatek depend on TSMC for the chips. In a probable invasion of Taiwan in the future, if the USA has any reason to intervene, they would to protect the chip making industry they heavily depend on, the department of defense uses TSMC chips for many military devices, even the f-35 uses TSMC chips, and the chip demand will only increase with the advancing innovation; there could be other reasons too of course.
But a country is a country. A real country will not call itself "de facto country". If we accept "de facto" as a valid argument, then I would argue that many states of the USA have more sovereighty than the ROC.
@@yaya-nw4ic as a valid argument for what point exactly? You're incorrect, there are no states within the federation of the USA that are more sovereign than ROC. The U.S. federal government has jurisdiction across all of its territory, each federal state is subjected to the U.S. constitution, federal laws and institutions. Meanwhile Taiwan (roc) operates completely independently from the PRC, it is a de facto seceeded political structure that is completely indipendent from the PRC. I'm curious on how you would argue that states within a federation can be more sovereign than a de facto country like Taiwan (roc), maybe you're unaware of what you're talking about, no offense. ROC (as of 31/01/24) has absolute authority over Taiwan, Texas and California do not have complete authority over their territory, the federal government controls these states through federal laws, only the federal legal system prevails in all of the U.S. and those states cannot have foreign relations on their own, foreign relations are handled by the federal government. The PRC cannot impose laws in Taiwan like the US federal government does to its states, Taiwan handles its own unofficial relations with other countries indipendently. The ROC has no federal government to abide to unlike California and Texas. I hope you realise this. The PRC can only threaten taiwan, they still do not have any authority in the island, authority is held by the Roc. Roc's indipendence and sovereignty over its territory is analogous to countries like south korea
@@Unnamed7964 I'm just saying that many states in the USA are more "de facto" than Taiwan, man. You don't need to make so many statements here. You seem to be very good at being aware of things. So you must be aware that statements don't funtion as facts, right? They are, at the most, assumptions.
@@yaya-nw4ic The idea that states within a federation are more de facto sovreign than a political structure that is de facto politically indipendent and sovreign is wrong and i previously explained why. I'm open for discussion but i think you might need some basics first before discussing things you still do not entirely comprehend. States within a federation are not entirely indipendent, i hope you understand this.
You guys can use this approach when you see people talking nonsense. I tell people that claims Taiwan's a country "Gave me a date Taiwan became a country." They write up a whole page mimicking western media propaganda and I tell them "no date, no cigar!" They just can't refute a simple question.
Add to this, US is the most powerful friend of Taiwan. But why US not recognize the Taiwan claim that Taiwan is not a part of China, but a separate independent country. If even US not dare to say then who are the average commenters say otherwise. Frankly, I don't think current Taiwan government used "Taiwan island is not China" as its main defense. They just want to retain their form of government...
@@ghy8415 Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country. Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following... *Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China? And why would they? War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer. War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._* Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland. *Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
1. In 1894, Japan invaded China and Korea, the Qing govt of China was defeated and signed the [Treaty of Shimonoseki] to cede Taiwan Island to Japan. 2. During the WW2, at the Cairo Conference held in 1943, China requested the transfer of Taiwan's sovereignty back to China after the war. This content was included in the [Cairo Declaration] and later reiterated in the [Potsdam Proclamation] that it should be implemented. 3. On 14 Aug & 2 Sept 1945, the Emperor and govt of Japan issued the [End War Edict] and [Japanese Instrument of Surrender] respectively, Japan surrendered and accepted the [Potsdam Proclamation]. The Japanese troops in Taiwan surrendered to KMT General Chiang Kai-Shek, Taiwan re-entered the territory of the Republic of China (ROC). 4. Soon after that China civil war broke out between KMT and CPC, the KMT was defeated and fled to Taiwan. However, due to US's intervention, the CPC without a strong navy at that time has no ability to unify Taiwan. The CPC then established the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Since then, in both PRC’s and ROC’s constitutions, both claimed to be the legitimate government of China, which consisted of Mainland China+Taiwan Island in its entirety. 5. In 1971, UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN. That means the PRC is China's only legal govt under international law, and today the PRC also become China's only legal govt recognized by 180 countries around the world, including the USA. "The USA recognizes the Government of the PRC as the sole legal Government of China. Within this context, the people of the USA will maintain cultural, commercial, and other unofficial relations with the people of Taiwan." Joint Cummunique on the Establishment of Diplomatic relations between the PRC and the USA (16th December 1978). As such, the ROC has no more embassy in America, UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, etc, and they were replaced by PRC embassies in these countries. 6. Therefore, according to international laws, international diplomatic reality, and the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the combined 1.4 billion people from both sides, the PRC has every rights to protect its sovereign integrity. To demonstrate how legitimate China’s claim of sovereignty in Taiwan, think about this: It’s more legitimate than the three Baltic countries’ territorial claims: Most of the republics of the former Soviet Union signed the Alma-Ata Declaration, which clarified the boundaries of the signatory countries and thus effective under international law. The three Baltic states Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania did not sign the Almaty Declaration. Moreover, they declared their independence before the disintegration of the Soviet Union, and they did not sign confirmation documents with the Soviet Union at that time. If no one disputes the UNLAWFUL territorial claims of the Baltic states, why are there disputes in China’s LAWFUL rights over Taiwan? 7. Today, the government in Taiwan is no more than remnants of China’s former government. There’s zero difference if in 1949 the remnants had fled for Jiangxi, Jiangsu or Hunan, instead of Taiwan. They are all a part of China in exactly the same way. They did not automatically become another country just because the remnants fled there. If some remnants of the China former government had fled to the United States, would the United States have become the ROC as well? 8. Taiwan has never been an independent country by itself, NEVER, in any history records. Taiwan was a province of that country called the ROC, and now a province of the PRC. Even the few small countries like Nauru and Eswatini which recognize the ROC as “China”, did not recognize Taiwan as a country, but rather a province of the ROC. Yes, Taiwanese have their own passports, but Hong Kong and Macao people have their own passports too, but they are still a part of China. If Catalonians decides to print their own passports today, that doesn’t mean Catalonia is an independent country tomorrow. 9. If Taiwan decides to go for independence, just like Catalonia or Scotland is trying to, it’s all China’s domestic matter. It has nothing to do with other countries. But the US has been sending billions dollar worth of arm weapons to Taiwan. In 1962, the US sent missiles to Turkey & Italy, and in response, the USSR sent missiles to Cuba, and the Cuban Missile Crisis broke out. Likewise, in 2021 Aug, Zelensky visited Washington to seek support for NATO membership, 6 months later Russia invaded Ukraine. World Superpowers never allowed another country sending strategic arm weapons CLOSE to their borders, let alone WITHIN its regions like the US is doing to Taiwan which is WITHIN China. The PRC has been EXTREMELY patient with Taiwan govt: As long as Taiwan doesn’t declare independence, Mainland China has been at peace with it. 10. The PRC makes no secret of the desire for an eventual reunification, but it prefers to do it in a peaceful way. In China’s school text books, Taiwanese are called “compatriots”. Mainland China is Taiwan’s biggest importer of Taiwanese products. There are hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese working in Mainland China. Mainland China has been working on reunification with Taiwan through trades, notably the “Three Direct Links” initiatives. At one stage, under Taiwan leader Ma Ying-Jeou, Mainland and Taiwan were very close. The US noticed that trend and covertly supported the DPP to gain power. The US also orchestrated the Sunflower Student Movement in 2014, to sabotage the Cross-Strait Service Trade Agreement (CSSTA). Since The US puppet Tsai Ying-Wen came into office, separatism has been the main theme. It’s an open secret that Taiwan is America’s trump card over China when China catches up to the US’ economy, just like how America knocked Japan into 3 decades of stagnancy (Plaza Accord agreements) after Japan’s economy was catching up fast with America. The Anglo-America Empire has been using the “divide-and-conquer” tactics throughout histories. For example, Iran-Iraq, Iran-Saudi, Serbia-Kosovo, Russia-Ukraine, Europe-Russia, India-China, Mainland China-Taiwan, India-Pakistan, Gaddafi-NTC, Maduro-Guaido, Putin-Navalny, Al Assad-The Kurds, Al Bashir-South Sudan and many more. The DPP banned media in Taiwan which favor reunification, and created propagandas against Mainland China so that the young Taiwanese dislike Mainland China. Pelosi visited Taiwan in Aug 2022 against sternest warning from Beijing, to provoke a Chinese civil war, after which Mainland China surrounded Taiwan with battleships. In Apr 2023, McCathy’s acceptance of Tsai’s official visit to the USA, further escalated tension across the straights. 11. The US forced Taiwan to setup a TSMC plant in Arizona, scheduled to complete by 2024. This effectively robbed the crown jewel of Taiwan’s economy, with its peripherals, contributes to over 30% of Taiwan’s GDP. After the completion of the TSMC plant in Arizona, the US could even sabotage TSMC plants in Taiwan, to control world’s chip production, just like how the US sabotaged Nord Stream pipelines to control energy supply to Europe. After which, Taiwan will be even more dependent on agricultural export to China. The US is not helping Taiwan, its only interests are: Selling weapons to Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Australia and getting them to fight a proxy war against China in Taiwan, just like how it’s using EU countries to fight a proxy war against Russia in Ukraine. On 17th Jan 1893, America overthrew Queen Liliʻuokalani of the Hawaii Kingdom in a coup and made Hawaii its territory, because Hawaii was a geopolitically strategic location in the Middle of the Pacific. America cares about Taiwan as a geopolitically strategic location to counter China, not about people in Taiwan. A PEACEFUL reunification of Taiwan to Mainland is a nightmare for America; A PEACEFUL independence of Taiwan from Mainland is also a nightmare for America. America wants a Chinese civil war just like the Slavic civil war in Ukraine right now. As Anthony Blinken said on Dec 7, 2023:,“if you look at the investments that we’ve made in Ukraine’s defence to deal with this aggression, 90% of the security assistance we’ve provided has actually been spent here in the US with our manufacturers. This produced more American jobs, more growth in our own economy.” Vietnam, Laos, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Palestine, Ukraine….. America intervention has been historically prolonged and disastrous. Good luck Taiwanese.
You're not going back too far in history on point 8. Why might that be? The PRC doesn't want Taiwan back since it has never been part of the current dynasty, and only occasionaly part of past dynasties, they just want Taiwan for their own gains.
As a European, I can assure you that the current war that's going on in Ukraine is not a "slavic civil war". Firstly, modern Ukraine was recognized by modern Russia as an independent country, so not by any definition a civil war. It's a war between states just as has occurred many times in that region. Moscovia took Rus in the past, now Rus is defending itself from Moscovia wanting to repeat its past moves, to put it in historical terms.
I get your point Luke, but do you know that the authority of Qing is owned by Manchuria people, a Tungusic tribe based in Siberia, Mongolia and nowadays northern China, not by Han Chinese people. And here’s what I’m going to explain why Taiwan is not as simple as you claim to be: For the past 2 millennium years, Chinese people has been defined as Han Chinese people only, this is based on the theory of the greatest philosopher of ancient China, Confucius, he believed that the ethnic group in central China is the only legal ruler of this land (the word “China” as “中國” in Chinese language, with “中” representing central or center, “國” for country, meaning “the country of the central “ in Chinese language, the concept was even created far ahead of Confucius’ time) although there was no concept of Han at the time.
/ Qin Shi Huang’s first ever unification of ancient China ended hundreds of years of conflicts since the collapse of Zhou dynasty, making him the first ever emperor of the land. Followed by the collapse of his Qin/Chin dynasty, every successor had been taking a grand unified China as their ultimate ideal. The Han dynasty right after Qin dynasty wildly adopted the ideal of Confucius, making him the orthodox of China’s tradition, the concept of Han Chinese people was also created at this time. Han dynasty also succeeded Qin Shi Huang’s foreign policy of fighting against ethnic groups from northern, inherited Qin Shi Huang’s legacy of the Great Wall, the fortification preventing the invasion from north. The conflict between Han China and northern ethnic groups is actually the collision of an agrarian society and nomadic society.
/ But what that has to do with Taiwan? Well, since the Han Chinese regime is the only legal regime of China’s tradition, other regimes that defeated Han China to govern China are all aliens regimes, they are not accepted by Han China’s tradition, and it’s also a fact that Han Chinese resist Qing government, launching countless rebellions against Manchuria people during Qing dynasty. The founding father of modern day China, Sun Yat-sen also claimed the illegality of Qing dynasty by declaring Manchuria people as invader of China, overturning the illegal government of Manchuria, reclaiming the independence of Han Chinese people and China has been Sun and other revolutionists’ primary goal. Therefore, traditionally Taiwan wouldn’t be part of China.
/ Before Manchuria took over China, Taiwan, and even Tibet, Xinjiang were never parts of China’ regime, due to the fact that they are totally different ethnic groups, no common in religion, this is however quite different than the situation in southern China because Chinese people in the south are basically the same Han Chinese group who moved to the south long ago. When one civilization rules another different civilization, it always follows oppression, violence and inequality. At the time that Tibet, Xinjiang and Taiwan were colonized by Manchuria people, millions of people died in conflict.
/ Same as indigenous people killed by British colonists in America and Africa. One of the reasons why that the indigenous ethnic groups in these regions have so many problems with the authority of China today. A tragic story in Taiwan also indicates the oppression, when people from mainland China took over Taiwan hundreds of years ago, indigenous Taiwanese were forced to move from flatland to mountains, many of them killed. In 1949, after communist regime’s decisive victory in civil war against Chang Kai-shek’s KMT party, Chang had his regime of ROC retreated to Taiwan, indigenous people lived in the mountains were later named “Gaoshan group” by ROC, meaning people living in the mountains, very much a discriminatory term.
/ Meanwhile in the mainland, CCP took its opportunity, invaded Tibet and Xinjiang (the two regions were completely independent regions during civil war after the collapse of Qing dynasty), having them colonized, claiming its illegal ownership. Here’s the thing, Taiwan has never been official part of China, but all of a sudden, but ever since ROC retreated to Taiwan, now Taiwan is also part of China? We all know that doesn’t stand the ground.
There have been human activities in Taiwan for a long time. In the Early Paleolithic Age, about 450,000 to 190,000 years ago, the Changbin Culture in Taitung, 30,000 years ago, is the oldest culture in Taiwan known to archeology. The more recent Neolithic Age has the Austronesian language group. of archaeological remains. Because Taiwan is located in the northernmost part of the Austronesian language group's activity range, it is also considered to be the possible linguistic and genetic birthplace of the Austronesian people. In the 17th century, there was a Dadu Kingdom in central Taiwan that exceeded the size of ordinary tribes, and the Dutch Empire and the Spanish Empire colonized the southwest and northwest of Taiwan respectively. Afterwards, the Dutch expelled the Spanish and ruled most of western Taiwan. In April 1661, Zheng Chenggong led an army of 25,000 and hundreds of warships to besiege the city of Jelandja, the capital of the Netherlands. The Netherlands signed a surrender agreement on February 1, 1662. Taiwan entered the Ming and Zheng Dynasties. During this period, a large number of Han people immigrated to Taiwan. .
1:58 Slight correction there. Qing China was invaded by Japan in the 1890s and ceded Taiwan to them then. So Japan ruled Taiwan for 50yrs till they lost WW2, then had to return Taiwan to China.
Taiwan is located in the ROC. Taiwan = ROC, but the ROC = China. Simple logic. Taiwan is a province of the ROC, and hence part of China. Respect the ROC constitution. This is the status quo of Taiwan. No word tricks can change this.
Taiwan is located in the ROC. Taiwan = ROC, but the ROC = China. Simple logic. Taiwan is a province of the ROC, and hence part of China. Respect the ROC constitution. This is the status quo of Taiwan. No word tricks can change this.
As does most of Taiwanese however, western media amplifies the voice of separatist intentionally to gather support from their own population to get consent for war in China.
To be more clear, Canada follows a “One China Policy,” which acknowledges that there is only one Chinese government, does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state and does not maintain official government-to-government relations with Taipei. However, Canada never recognized that Taiwan is part of China. So theoretically, the status of Taiwan is undetermined to Canada.
Could you please explain to me, a single reason why the ruling of Qing government over island of Taiwan is not colonialism, why is that when China invaded other regions, it’s reunification not invasion?
Could you please explain to me, a single reason why the ruling of British government over the continent of North America is not colonialism. One difference between NA and Taiwan is that ethnic Chinese had lived in the Penghu Islands and Taiwan since the Song Dynasty. Let me help you out, that's 1,000 years ago.
I’ve seen too many people say on CZcams that Taiwan is a country, which made me very angry, but today I saw a real video about the history of Taiwan Province of China. Thank you.
Qing Dynasty inherented Taiwan from Ming Dynasty and Roc inherented Taiwan from Qing Dynasty ， WHEN PRC announced they established People Republic of China， this announced they are separated from Roc ， since that time there are two China， one is Republic of China （Taiwan）， one is People Republic of China ，Roc still existing。
@@user-hc7ue1mm2nOn October 25, 1945, the Chinese government announced that it would "resume the exercise of sovereignty over Taiwan." Therefore, China recovered Taiwan legally and de facto. After the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949, it completed a regime change in the sense of international law. China's representation in the United Nations is the representation of all China, including Taiwan. At the legal level, United Nations General Assembly Resolution No. 2758 clearly stated that China The government of the People's Republic of China is the only legal government representing the whole of China, and Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory.
Luke can speak the truth and fact as a foreigner. Economically, they are much dependent on the Mainland but they always deny instead they will say TW generated profit for them. Just to ask, PRC can live without TW or vice versa.
actully, not really. lets say, just say there the mainland and taiwan are two countries, and they are in a war with each other, without outside help, who would win the war? its a no brainer, taiwan can't defand it self. not from China, not from Japan, not even from holland.
@@Leoq-zk6wt Make a hypothesis. Because the Republican Party of the United States was dissatisfied with the policies of the Democratic Party, cities that supported the Republican Party called on people to join the army and attacked the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party failed continuously in the battle with the Republican Party and retreated to San Francisco. The Democratic Party still used the name of the United States of America, while the Republican Party occupied hundreds of U.S. Ninety-five percent of the territory was divided and the establishment of a new country was announced as the Nuts United States of America. It also stated that it would eliminate the Democratic Party and achieve territorial unification of the United States. So, do they belong to the same country or two different countries? Is this a civil war or a foreign war?
As A REAL TAIWANESE, some FACT here 1. Country or not, or called a place, a territory. Taiwanese DO NOT want to be part of the communist, even CKS knew don’t hangout with CCP. The China that CKS want it back was “Republic of China” not PRC 2: if I deny any real human as a human , he or she still a human ; if I deny a whale swim in the ocean , the whale is indeed still swimming in ocean everyday . So Taiwan as a country truly exists , it doesn’t need a non-Taiwanese to define Taiwan . Real gold is golden, the counterfeit can’t replace gold . 3. Taiwanese don’t care about UN now, especially after COVID19 the UN gave in to CCP China when the outbreak was from Wuhan. Still no answer how the covid happened. UN is corrupted. Taiwan has world leading medical technology to satisfy its own medical needs, especially being isolated from the world it forced Taiwan to be resilient and independent. 4. Currency in paper , digital , bitcoin etc , Taiwanese economy is stronger then PRC. CCP’s dictatorship has led to Chinese people flee all over the world lately via real estate collapsed, Chinese realtors took 90% pay cut and bad mortgage loan everywhere in PRC now. Communist Chinese are miserable 5. We look our life forward, not backward , CKS was a dictator. The constitution then doesn’t reflect the Taiwanese people’s value now, it needs a reform . Just like in the U.S. the 2nd Amendment doesn’t reflect majority of American’s will. Constitution need reform at level base on reality. It’s like some British people doesn’t think the monarchy is needed , England is too expensive and British people isn’t happy about their economy while the palace live so well . It would make more sense to me this CZcamsr film something about palace in England. Not Taiwanese future. Let Taiwanese decide their own future. Taiwanese hate communism and it’s concerning this CZcamsr from a free world is ok with Taiwan combine with CCP dictatorship
Most Westerners that say Taiwan is a country only know that Taiwan exists and not much else. I've asked plenty of Westerners and they have never even heard of the ROC. How can you make statements like that without the most rudimentary understanding of the situation?
it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. therefore its a duck (in this case an independant country) even if you insist on calling it a chicken.
the Trump's Wall analogy is a non-sequitur argument since it was build within the USA under the same political juricediction of the rest of the USA. Of course it remains under the control of the USA otherwise each transition from one elected party control to another would require a civil war to settle who owns what. Madness. Taiwan does not function under the same political system as the mainland PRC so therefore is nothing like USA border walls, isnt that obvious?
中華民國憲法增修條文 (民國93年立法94年公布)，為因應國家統一前之需要，依照憲法第二十七條第一項第三款及第一百七十四條第一款之規定，增修本憲法條文如左。台湾如果是国家，台湾国何时成立，独立宣言是什么，第一任总统是谁。什么国家承认了台湾国的存在？The additional provisions of the Constitution of the Republic of China (promulgated in 1993 and 1994) are in order to meet the needs before the reunification of the country and in accordance with the provisions of Article 27, Paragraph 1, Paragraph 3 and Article 174, Paragraph 1 of the Constitution. , amend the provisions of this constitution as shown on the left.If Taiwan is a country, when was Taiwan established, what is the Declaration of Independence, and who was the first president.Which country has recognized the existence of Taiwan?
Here: law.moj.gov.tw/ENG/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?pcode=A0000001 You can find it in Chapter 1, Article 4. And if you are not sure of the definition of "territory" in this article, you can refer to Chapter XI, Section 1, especially article 119 and 120. (Honestly the ROC's policies of self-government is not so different from what PRC is doing now. Only in mainland we call them "Autonomous Region".)
The current constitution of the Republic of China still claims the whole China as its territory from 1912 on, as it had began to ruled the whole China until 1949. english.president.gov.tw/page/93 So you can have 2 Chinas or only one China, which is logical paradox?
The position of the United Nations is that the People’s Republic of China represents the whole of China as the sole and legitimate representative Government of China. The decision until now about the wish of the people in Taiwan to join the United Nations has been decided based on the resolution (General Assembly Resolution 2758) mentioning that the Government of China is the sole and legitimate Government, and the position of the United Nations is that Taiwan is part of China.
我只能說在歷史上以前”中國 ”就是”中華民國”，後來幾年後”中華人民共和國”出現，因為某個因素導致國共內戰，中共人打中國人，因為中國人打輸中共人太多了，很多中華民國一堆土地被中共人奪走了，我們中國人只能躲到最後一個島嶼裡，但是我們還沒消滅掉，我們中國人要守護最後一個島嶼，你說英國有很多島嶼我能理解，但我們中國人不屬於中共的一部份，因為我們還活著還沒消滅掉，我們只是躲在島嶼而不是在路上，時間流逝，我們已經習慣叫臺灣了，但我們是中華民國人不是中華人民共和國人，世界上有很多雙重或多重國籍，但大部份都是在陸地上，我們則是在島嶼上，我們比較特殊就是了 I can only say that in history, "China" was the "Republic of China". Then a few years later, the "People's Republic of China" appeared. Due to a certain factor, the civil war between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party was caused. The Chinese Communists fought against the Chinese because the Chinese defeated the Chinese Communists. There are too many. A lot of land in the Republic of China has been taken away by the CCP. We Chinese can only hide in the last island, but we have not wiped it out yet. We Chinese have to protect the last island. You said that the UK has many islands. I can understand, but we Chinese are not part of the CCP because we are still alive and have not been eliminated. We are just hiding on the islands instead of on the road. As time goes by, we have become accustomed to calling it Taiwan, but we are the Republic of China. You are not from the People's Republic of China. There are many dual or multiple nationalities in the world, but most of them are on land. We are on islands. We are special.
Thank you for the history lesson to those who don’t know how Taiwan relates to mainland China. One error I have to point out is: Taiwan was taken in 1895 from Qing Dynasty and Chiang Kai Shek never ruled Taiwan before it was returned to China in 1945, when WWII ended since the ROC was the legitimate government of China at that time.
I think the point is the idea of a "country" is purely a social construct, and that a country is one in which others recognise it as such. Even if Taiwan functions like an independent state, it isn't recognised as such. If the confederates fleed to Florida and built a wall, had their military and their own state functions, that doesn't make it a country. With the brutality of the ROC, that argument is essentially an analogy. Western media doesn't cover the horrors of the KMT and overexaggerates and fabricates claims on Mao's PRC.
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country. Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following... *Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China? And why would they? War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer. War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._* Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland. *Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Just because you treat the region as an autonomous authority doesn't mean it's a country. The thing that makes a country a country is recognition. Sealand could be a country by your metrics, but it isn't one is it.
@livinlavidaluke, a very well argued video with information that Western media never wants to tell the audience. There are two other examples you can use to say that a territory with own government, currency and army and people does not necessarily make it an independent country. These were the Manchukuo, a puppet state created by Japan in Northeast China. People in Manchukuo were also indoctrinated that they were NOT Chinese and they even were forced to worship Japanese religion. The other one was the Soviet Republic of China (1930-1935) in southeastern Jiangxi and western Fujian under Mao and Zhu De. Both the Manchukuo and the Soviet Republic claimed to be independent states unrelated to China. But, they were NOT independent state. Taiwanese often say, well, the PRC has never collected tax from Taiwan and has no right to claim sovereignty. Well, the ROC had never ruled Taiwan before 1945 when it took Taiwan back. The PRC had never ruled or collected tax over Hong Kong before 1997. None of the PRC, the ROC, not even the Qing Dynasty had ever ruled Macau before 1999, you know what happened in 1999? China under the PRC took Macau back. Anyway, great, an enlightening and fact-based video, @livinlavidluke. Well done!
Well, is Hawaii a country? Hmmm..... But, I see your point. China and Taiwan are Chinese. Hawaii and USA Mainland are way different, it's people that is. Good job.....
I'm surprised to find this video, and further surprised that you're not getting hate comments from Taiwanese. Anyway, here's a simple argument: If Taiwan was a country of it's own, Taiwan wouldn't be needing to talk about independence from China.
"Country" is dirty word, and I don't think it should be the centerpiece for arguments about Taiwan. Scotland is usually referred to as a country, yet the parliament in London can still legislate for it which is more than what can be said for the NPC's legislative power over territories administered by the ROC. It's the same situation as North and South Korea. Both claim sovereignty over the other, govern themselves independently of the other, were once unified and share a language, culture, history and even name. The ONLY difference is they did not create a "one Korea" principle to be the foundation of their foreign relations so there's nothing stopping them from both being in the UN and having official embassies in the same country. Also that sentence "the current government are steering away from that to be independent" is just so disingenuous. Their ACTUAL position is to maintain and reinforce the status quo. They do not need to declare independence for Taiwan when the ROC is _based there_ making up 99% of the territory they control and when the only thing that _really_ matters is for Beijing to not have control over their territory which the current status achieves perfectly fine. But of course wanting to maintain the status quo sounds too peaceful so Beijing had to hype up this big boogeyman of "taiwan independence" to paint themselves as the victim of this provocative little rogue province instead.
Everyone knows why Israel can carry out genocide without restraint? The answer is U.S. support. In the same way, it doesn’t matter whether Taiwan is a country or whether Taiwan’s ruling party lies. The answer is that the United States supports it.That's all the truth.
Here's another truth... Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country. Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following... *Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China? And why would they? War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer. War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._* Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland. *Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
Canada was one of the first Western countries to establish diplomatic ties with the People’s Republic of China. However, Canada has never recognized Taiwan as part of China. The 1970 Canada-China communiqué reads: The Chinese Government reaffirms that Taiwan is an inalienable part of the territory of the People’s Republic of China. The Canadian Government takes note of this position of the Chinese Government. -A quote from Scott Simon The framework, known as the Canadian formula, was immediately adopted by Italy and at least 30 countries that subsequently established diplomatic ties with Beijing. These countries continued to trade with Taiwan.
@@jonatand2045 Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country. Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following... *Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China? And why would they? War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer. War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._* Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland. *Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
Why not film about Buckingham Palace? Let Taiwanese people decide their own future ! Taiwan doesn’t want to be part of communism. The con-sense is mainstream. Not the outdated paperwork. Remember the Soviet Union is COLLAPSED. The agreement that effect Taiwan are very very old ( such as ISO 3166 is a complete piece of crap) Taiwan is a new country and still working its own way . How about filming if monarchy is needed anymore ? The British people can’t live with inflation 😢
I read elsewhere that Taiwan's lean towards independence is unstoppable because growing up in Taiwan is all that younger voters have ever known. In the recent elections, they are particularly concerned with bread-and-butter issues. Putting B&B issues aside, I'm curious how they (millenials, Gen Z onwards) think about reunification--no case? On their own terms? Or what other scenario?
Were China a free and democratic country, the unification of Taiwan with mainland would never be a problem at all. The millennials, Gen Z onwards are not blind.
The UN Charter clearly stated and recognised by every member states barred a few small states who still recognised the ROC as the legitimate China. But some Western Countries cooked the book and painted an opaque picture that Taiwan is Democratic ruled island and thus seen as unthouchabled and must be left alone！
Nice video. Taiwan is a beautiful country, great scenery, very clean, good service, great food and people are very friendly. However, their politics, even domestic issues (nothing to do with China), can be very heated up as can be observed in their fiery parliament sessions and the rare occasions where the "White House" gate was rammed. Hence, the tight security that you faced and the young policemen were careful and actually quite polite, in asking you to leave. Other than that, Taiwan is a highly recommended lovely and safe place to visit (don't let the geopolitics distract you). Cheers.
Yes, the PRC never ruled over Taiwan. The ROC on the other hand ruled over "China" after the Qing. So, the Question is who is the legitimate government? Let's do it in a democratic way, let's figure it out in a poll.
Get over yourself, why does it have to be on Western "democratic" terms? Even if there was a vote of all the Chinese on both side who do you think will win 99% of the "vote"? Then you people will call fraud and all this garbage bollocks...
It’s hilarious that people use this “having never ruled Taiwan” argument as the illegitimacy for ruling Taiwan. You know that no government has ruled over a territory before it rules it, right? So what exactly is the point of this very argument?????
A lot of people have strong biased toward someone or something and very hard for them to get rid of these biases. You are clearly a very intelligent and have a high level of education. Your logic are correct and very precise. The majority of viewers are just common folks, have the ability to read articles on the subjects from the internet, and some are quite good in English writing skills. The reality can be described into: 1/If Taiwan is not part of China, then why a retreat government with nearly half of million soldiers chose Taiwan and not Laos, Thailand, Vietnam... 2/Both parties want to finish each other. Taiwan had hope to go back and retake the vast mainland because of the fail economy of mainland for a long time and Taiwan had been prosperous during that time, the mainlanders , facing the constant thread of starvation, will fall and Taiwan government will move back as national saviors. The mainland PRC also want to defeat ROC in Taiwan to complete its victory. Unfortunately, The US Navy has been too strong sailing through Taiwan straight all the times. 3/ The majority of very valuable historical artifact and relics from thousand of years of the whole China moved to Taiwan Museums. 4/Taiwan, act as the legitimate , sole represent of China, enter the dispute of South China Sea islands based on the China historical fact as proofs, not based on native Taiwan tribes people visiting, possessing of these islands. 5/ The national security interests are very important for the US, any potential events , no matter how small it is, is a thing the US want to address. Case in point: the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia actually k..ling several millions of citizens, The West and the US clearly knew about it, but these actions did not cause any harm to national security Interest, so ignored it. In conclusion: It is understandable that many Chinese lived in Taiwan want to retain their forms of government but based on the foundation of claiming that Taiwan is not a part of China is not smart. If every governments on earth stated the fact that indeed, Taiwan is not land of China, then they (with all think tanks, high powers advisers and officials) will not hesitate to recognize Taiwan (Us Congress will do it and campaign with UN for new membership). The bottom line is this: Even right now, assume the current mainland government is a western democratic style. Will it be ready to lose a big strategic island of Taiwan?
Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country. Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following... *Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China? And why would they? War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer. War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._* Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland. *Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
if there were not for the USoA, then China would already been reunited with Taiwan (the cival war would be ended with the defeat of the KMT, because the KMT would not have enough ships to move all the troops and equiptment and gold and such to the island of Taiwan without the help of the USoA ships.
You can learn about the history of Taiwan. There are aborigines and Han people in Taiwan, but most of them are Han people. The Han people are also divided into different ethnic groups, such as the Hokkien people and the Hakka people. Among them are people from other provinces and people from this province. Most people from this province are more supportive of Taiwan’s independence. The concept is that they came to Taiwan 100 or 200 years ago during the Qing Dynasty or even earlier before the establishment of the Republic of China. They were ruled by the Dutch, Portuguese, and Japanese, and some of their blood was mixed with the Taiwanese aborigines (Pingpu ethnic group), so they self-identify as Taiwanese. However, Japan was defeated in World War II, and the Kuomintang of the Republic of China came to Taiwan. People from other provinces, that is, many self-identified as Chinese. They oppressed Taiwanese. We must speak Chinese and are not allowed to speak Taiwanese, so Traditional Chinese has become our national language. , had this not happened, our main languages might have been Taiwanese and Japanese.
As to why China is so obsessed with taking over Taiwan, it's because the democratic way of life in Taiwan poses genuine threat to the CCP's ruling over China. However, the CCP should keep in mind this "There is no permanent ruling party".
Hey those who's asumed that Taiwan is not territory of China, please realize that the offical name of the autority on taiwan island is Republic of CHINA, ROC. Google it if you didn't know. This is the officially name stated in their constitution. And ROC's territory includes taiwan island as a province, entire Mainland China, and even more, it includes Mongolia. ROC considers even Mongolia is its territory according to its constitution. It's all in ROC's constitution which you called it Taiwan and thought it was an "independeant island country". There is only one CHINA in the world. Either People's Republic of China (PRC) on the mainland, or Republic of China (ROC) on the taiwan island, represents CHINA. There's never an independant country called Taiwan. There is not a single country in the world that establishes official foreign relationship with both sides. 182 contries has foreign relationship with PRC, and 13 contries with ROC (Oops, just dropped to 12 earlier this month). Zero with what you called Taiwan. CHINA is actually still in a cival war. The cival war between PRC and ROC (just like America's cival war between United States of American and Confederate States of America) has not ended since 1940's. The two sides across the straight has never signed any peace treaty, not even a cease fire agreement. They just stopped firing at each other and tried to sit down to negotiate for a peaceful reunification since 1980's. As of today, either side can start firing at the other side without any political or legal restriction since there's no peace treaty nor a cease fire agreement.
Your history w/ regards to Japan is off a bit. The Qing dynasty ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 after Japanese victory in the 1st Sino-Japanese War. It was a dependency of Japan for 50yrs until 1945.
If Taiwan were as far from China and Australia or Canada or USA are from Britain, and it had been colonised recently by Chinese, it is possible that it could become a separate, independent country. Like Singapore is a sovereign nation in Asia. But with its unique history going back centuries of beung a Chinese province, and its proximity to China mainland, this is not even a remote possibility. Yes, it can have a different system of administration like Hong Kong and Macau or like some of the autonomous provinces if China, but not exist as an independent nation. Furthermore, the fact that it has welcomed US and EU interference in its body politic ruled that out long ago.
Well i nearly got arrested in this video 😂 was filming on a public path, thought taiwan was all about free speech??
Taiwan freedom is a Big Lie everyone knows Taiwan is controlled by USA and Japan
I think it was probably because you were filming right in front of their "white house" and it was too close for comfort?
@@josechong8207 they probably thought he was a spy
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If it was too close, maybe they should have build the walkway further. Haha @josechong8207
Look at the antique pieces on display in the museums in Taiwan; they are all (100%) brought over from China by the KMT in 1949. They are dating their history from the time of ancient China. Not part of China??
The KMT has been in Taiwan since the end of WW2. THAT'S ALL! Seventy something years. The KMT's claim that Taiwan is Chinese and been an inalienable part of China for millennia is just as fascist, totalitarian and absurd as the CCP's claim. Taiwan belongs to the indigenous Taiwanese and the Min-speaking descendants of Fujian migrants who started drifting over to Taiwan after the Manchu took control of the island.
The antiqus had to be preserved somewhere since the CCP wasn't going to do it. The British museum is not part of Egypt either, right?
所以英國屬於中國的一部分😂😂😂
法國可能也是
The Han nationality accounts for 80% of Taiwan population, including character and religion. Han is the biggest nationality in China.
@@mjouwbuis I think you will offend a lot of Taiwanese by calling them pillagers rather than owners of these artifacts.
Thank you, Luke for giving us such an amazing historical background on Taiwan and for doing all the research that went into presenting this video.
Misinformation here
It's hard to believe that a foreigner understands Cross-Strait relations better than many Chinese. 👍👍👍
you are so naive. people understand the situation, they just don’t like china.
@@user-rt6ip4kb1i peoples brainwash by their current gov't and the west
you are so native. They think China Mainland must be the dictatorship that the KMT was to Taiwan for decades. So they can't imagine China is a free place. LOL@@user-rt6ip4kb1i
@@user-rt6ip4kb1i Correction, they don't like the ccp. F the ccp, it is addicted to power.
If something sounds too good to be true, it usually isn't.
Factually accurate. Very well presented.❤❤
A breakaway province of China whose official name is the REPUBLIC OF CHINA (ROC).
Government in exile by Chiang Kai-shek’s own faction of the KMT/Nationalists since their humiliating loss from the post-WW2 Chinese Civil War vs the CPC on the Chinese mainland.
A former Japanese outpost too like the Korean peninsula.
We applaud the pro-mainland faction, the Revolutionary Committee of the Chinese Kuomintang (RCCK), for staying and believing in the CPC’s vision of a peaceful reunification. One of the 8 non-Communist parties under the United Front coalition.
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While the government of the ROC in exile went and made it theirs, can you explain when, how and why it was ever a province of China?
Thank you! You are absolutely right. I was born and grew up in Taiwan, and resent the ruling DPP for bastardizing and distorting the narrative of the Republic of China (Taiwan). Thank you for speaking out for many silent Taiwanese like me!
I should also add that the 13 tiny countries, Nauru, Eswatini, etc., that recognize so-called "Taiwan" do not recognize Taiwan, but like everyone else, they recognize the One China Principle, with the Republic of China (ROC) being its sole representative, and Taiwan being one of its provinces. There is exactly zero country in the world that recognizes "Taiwan".
history repeats itself, the Ming Dynasty held out in Taiwan before the Qing Dynasty reunified Taiwan back to Mainland China. The ROC is today's Ming Dynasty.
True, no country recognizes Taiwan! Taiwan is the geographical name of the region that the ROC governs.
Those 13 tiny countries, which are funded by ROC, Taiwan and backed by the USA, recognize the ROC represent the whole China and the rest 180 UN member countries recognize the PRC represents China.
Being "recognized" by other countries isn't a requirement to be an independent country. The whole world treats Taiwan as an independent country because it is. Even China doesn't dare set foot on Taiwan. Do you see an PLA soldiers in Taiwan? Do Taiwanese pay taxes to Beijing or Taipei? Does America sell Billions in military equipment to Taiwan or China?
@@markcarson3215 you are hilarious! You could entitle yourself as a king at your own house but you are nobody since nobody recognizes you as a king. You self-comfort that being recognized by others isn’t a requirement to be a king🤣 🤣
@@jenniferzhang864 "no Countries recognize Taiwan" when China is in the room. But the reality is, Taiwan is treated exactly like a country. Trade deals are made with Taiwan, Billions in arms are sold to Taiwan, Taiwan prints its own currency and passports and has a capitalistic economy and democratic elections. Not to mention, the majority of the population are not asking to be part of China. But let's believe you for a moment and go with "Being recognized by other isn't a requirement to be a king/country" In what way, (and just name 1 or 2 important ones) is Taiwan not treated like a country? Now I know you want to say something like "formal diplomatic recognition with embassies etc" but of course we know that some countries do have embassies in Taiwan and vice versa not to mention Taiwan has TECO offices all over the world which do everything an embassy does. But we will wait for your answer. Please let us know the significant ways that Taiwan is not treated like a country with a king/president? Thank you Ms. Zhang
There are restrictions in areas around presidential residence and offices as in any other countries. You can go film White House but at certain times distance. Don’t twist freedom as lawless.
台灣不是說 總統府可以隨便進出嗎 還怕拍照😂😂
Most of US and Western Counterparts either were ignorant about our history or choose to be politically correct for the purpose to further their agenda. But thanks for speaking out against the odds my friend. Kudos to you. And I hope more Westerners could learn to be more open and forthcoming as you are, not mixing facts with politics. The US and their allies wants unity amongst themselves, yet at the same breath preach division amongst other races. That's pukingly disgusting.
你誤會西方人了。你以為他們是真的搞不清楚什麼是真相，其實根本不是。
他們只是用那些他們認為對他們有利的信息去分化、利用或打敗別人，信息的真假根本不重要。
重要的是必須對他們有利。
They have done this type of division work in many countries such as Korea, Vietnam, Sudan, Pakistan, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, it’s working pretty well. Their tactics has worked on China too with division of Taiwan and previously Hong Kong.
@@tigerwild1164I agree that the politicians know the truth but the average Americans watching the news and listening to their favorite politician have no clue to the history and truth of China and Taiwan. That is why the average voters are easily manipulated.
There's an old Turkish word of wisdom : If you saw two fish fighting in a quiet river, You know the Englishman had just pass by earlier.
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Truth is Taiwan is de facto independant. I wonder what you think of a reunification without the ccp autocracy.
Great stuff Luke, love watching contents by intelligent and smart young man。
This is what i have been arguing with the denials. Taiwan has always been part of China. And it was returned to China. Doesnt matter which party is in power. If DPP is the incumbent, they would administer China and that includes all the territory that belongs to China.
Saying that CPC has never govern Taiwan, thus Taiwan do not belong to China is just BS and total nonsense. If this holds any water at all, there are a lot states eligible to break away from their country.
We can start with Hawaii and Texas.
China belongs to the ROC.
China is part of Taiwan.
Interesting video, but there are some points that need further consideration:
It is true that Taiwan (ROC) is not recognised as a country and that they're an adversary of the PRC over the one China policy and that they're technically in a state of war. However, this needs to be clarified; the current real world situation is that Taiwan (ROC) operates its territory with such a degree of autonomy and jurisdiction that only countries like the UK, or France do; the current political status of the island classifies Taiwan(ROC) as a de facto country. This last statement has been controversial to some I talked to in your comment section but it's just a fact.
Almost nobody recognises Taiwan officially, because doing so will automatically make you not recognise the PRC and vice versa, you can only recognise one of these diplomatically, recognising the PRC simply brings more benefits; additionally, official recognition is not needed to have relations with Taiwan (ROC) unlike the PRC, so it's better in every country's interest to recognise the PRC so they can have relations with both. Even without official recognition Taiwan (ROC) maintains robust unofficial diplomatic relations with the USA, Japan and some EU countries; these relations bring arms sales, economic relationships and cooperation.
Deliberate Strategic ambiguity is the strategy adopted by the US in this case, on one hand they say they adhere to the one China policy and recognise the PRC, on the other hand they sell weapons and trade with the ROC, Joe Biden even affirmed once he would defend Taiwan militarly; I'm not sure if he was correct, my point is that the US is deliberately ambiguous in the attempt to discourage the PRC from forcefully annexing Taiwan (ROC) without directly challenging the PRC. In essence, the US is trying to support Taiwan's (roc) de facto sovereignty without directly challenging China (prc).
Taiwan is amazing at manufacturing chips by the way: Apple, Qualcomm, Nvidia, ARM, AMD, Intel, Mediatek depend on TSMC for the chips. In a probable invasion of Taiwan in the future, if the USA has any reason to intervene, they would to protect the chip making industry they heavily depend on, the department of defense uses TSMC chips for many military devices, even the f-35 uses TSMC chips, and the chip demand will only increase with the advancing innovation; there could be other reasons too of course.
But a country is a country. A real country will not call itself "de facto country". If we accept "de facto" as a valid argument, then I would argue that many states of the USA have more sovereighty than the ROC.
@@yaya-nw4ic as a valid argument for what point exactly? You're incorrect, there are no states within the federation of the USA that are more sovereign than ROC. The U.S. federal government has jurisdiction across all of its territory, each federal state is subjected to the U.S. constitution, federal laws and institutions. Meanwhile Taiwan (roc) operates completely independently from the PRC, it is a de facto seceeded political structure that is completely indipendent from the PRC. I'm curious on how you would argue that states within a federation can be more sovereign than a de facto country like Taiwan (roc), maybe you're unaware of what you're talking about, no offense. ROC (as of 31/01/24) has absolute authority over Taiwan, Texas and California do not have complete authority over their territory, the federal government controls these states through federal laws, only the federal legal system prevails in all of the U.S. and those states cannot have foreign relations on their own, foreign relations are handled by the federal government. The PRC cannot impose laws in Taiwan like the US federal government does to its states, Taiwan handles its own unofficial relations with other countries indipendently. The ROC has no federal government to abide to unlike California and Texas. I hope you realise this. The PRC can only threaten taiwan, they still do not have any authority in the island, authority is held by the Roc. Roc's indipendence and sovereignty over its territory is analogous to countries like south korea
@@Unnamed7964 I'm just saying that many states in the USA are more "de facto" than Taiwan, man. You don't need to make so many statements here. You seem to be very good at being aware of things. So you must be aware that statements don't funtion as facts, right? They are, at the most, assumptions.
@@yaya-nw4ic The idea that states within a federation are more de facto sovreign than a political structure that is de facto politically indipendent and sovreign is wrong and i previously explained why. I'm open for discussion but i think you might need some basics first before discussing things you still do not entirely comprehend. States within a federation are not entirely indipendent, i hope you understand this.
You guys can use this approach when you see people talking nonsense.
I tell people that claims Taiwan's a country "Gave me a date Taiwan became a country."
They write up a whole page mimicking western media propaganda and I tell them "no date, no cigar!"
They just can't refute a simple question.
It became a country when the ccp failed to conquer it in the 40s.
Add to this, US is the most powerful friend of Taiwan. But why US not recognize the Taiwan claim that Taiwan is not a part of China, but a separate independent country. If even US not dare to say then who are the average commenters say otherwise. Frankly, I don't think current Taiwan government used "Taiwan island is not China" as its main defense. They just want to retain their form of government...
@@ghy8415 Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country.
Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following...
*Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China?
And why would they?
War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer.
War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._*
Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland.
*Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
台灣的白宮都可以讓一般人可以進去參觀了 為什麼不能拍攝 憲兵會要求離開或去馬路的對面拍攝 如果未事先申請站在那不動停留太久他們會前來關心 你站的地方太近對哨兵來說有安全的問題 所以有管制政策 全部的觀光客幾乎都是站在馬路對面拍攝 博主可去那裡表達你的個人論點 不用害怕 就算你把你的論點告訴哨兵 他們也不會把你怎樣 除非你犯法 懂?
1. In 1894, Japan invaded China and Korea, the Qing govt of China was defeated and signed the [Treaty of Shimonoseki] to cede Taiwan Island to Japan.
2. During the WW2, at the Cairo Conference held in 1943, China requested the transfer of Taiwan's sovereignty back to China after the war. This content was included in the [Cairo Declaration] and later reiterated in the [Potsdam Proclamation] that it should be implemented.
3. On 14 Aug & 2 Sept 1945, the Emperor and govt of Japan issued the [End War Edict] and [Japanese Instrument of Surrender] respectively, Japan surrendered and accepted the [Potsdam Proclamation]. The Japanese troops in Taiwan surrendered to KMT General Chiang Kai-Shek, Taiwan re-entered the territory of the Republic of China (ROC).
4. Soon after that China civil war broke out between KMT and CPC, the KMT was defeated and fled to Taiwan. However, due to US's intervention, the CPC without a strong navy at that time has no ability to unify Taiwan. The CPC then established the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Since then, in both PRC’s and ROC’s constitutions, both claimed to be the legitimate government of China, which consisted of Mainland China+Taiwan Island in its entirety.
5. In 1971, UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN. That means the PRC is China's only legal govt under international law, and today the PRC also become China's only legal govt recognized by 180 countries around the world, including the USA. "The USA recognizes the Government of the PRC as the sole legal Government of China. Within this context, the people of the USA will maintain cultural, commercial, and other unofficial relations with the people of Taiwan." Joint Cummunique on the Establishment of Diplomatic relations between the PRC and the USA (16th December 1978). As such, the ROC has no more embassy in America, UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, etc, and they were replaced by PRC embassies in these countries.
6. Therefore, according to international laws, international diplomatic reality, and the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the combined 1.4 billion people from both sides, the PRC has every rights to protect its sovereign integrity. To demonstrate how legitimate China’s claim of sovereignty in Taiwan, think about this: It’s more legitimate than the three Baltic countries’ territorial claims: Most of the republics of the former Soviet Union signed the Alma-Ata Declaration, which clarified the boundaries of the signatory countries and thus effective under international law. The three Baltic states Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania did not sign the Almaty Declaration. Moreover, they declared their independence before the disintegration of the Soviet Union, and they did not sign confirmation documents with the Soviet Union at that time. If no one disputes the UNLAWFUL territorial claims of the Baltic states, why are there disputes in China’s LAWFUL rights over Taiwan?
7. Today, the government in Taiwan is no more than remnants of China’s former government. There’s zero difference if in 1949 the remnants had fled for Jiangxi, Jiangsu or Hunan, instead of Taiwan. They are all a part of China in exactly the same way. They did not automatically become another country just because the remnants fled there. If some remnants of the China former government had fled to the United States, would the United States have become the ROC as well?
8. Taiwan has never been an independent country by itself, NEVER, in any history records. Taiwan was a province of that country called the ROC, and now a province of the PRC. Even the few small countries like Nauru and Eswatini which recognize the ROC as “China”, did not recognize Taiwan as a country, but rather a province of the ROC. Yes, Taiwanese have their own passports, but Hong Kong and Macao people have their own passports too, but they are still a part of China. If Catalonians decides to print their own passports today, that doesn’t mean Catalonia is an independent country tomorrow.
9. If Taiwan decides to go for independence, just like Catalonia or Scotland is trying to, it’s all China’s domestic matter. It has nothing to do with other countries. But the US has been sending billions dollar worth of arm weapons to Taiwan. In 1962, the US sent missiles to Turkey & Italy, and in response, the USSR sent missiles to Cuba, and the Cuban Missile Crisis broke out. Likewise, in 2021 Aug, Zelensky visited Washington to seek support for NATO membership, 6 months later Russia invaded Ukraine. World Superpowers never allowed another country sending strategic arm weapons CLOSE to their borders, let alone WITHIN its regions like the US is doing to Taiwan which is WITHIN China. The PRC has been EXTREMELY patient with Taiwan govt: As long as Taiwan doesn’t declare independence, Mainland China has been at peace with it.
10. The PRC makes no secret of the desire for an eventual reunification, but it prefers to do it in a peaceful way. In China’s school text books, Taiwanese are called “compatriots”. Mainland China is Taiwan’s biggest importer of Taiwanese products. There are hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese working in Mainland China. Mainland China has been working on reunification with Taiwan through trades, notably the “Three Direct Links” initiatives. At one stage, under Taiwan leader Ma Ying-Jeou, Mainland and Taiwan were very close. The US noticed that trend and covertly supported the DPP to gain power. The US also orchestrated the Sunflower Student Movement in 2014, to sabotage the Cross-Strait Service Trade Agreement (CSSTA). Since The US puppet Tsai Ying-Wen came into office, separatism has been the main theme. It’s an open secret that Taiwan is America’s trump card over China when China catches up to the US’ economy, just like how America knocked Japan into 3 decades of stagnancy (Plaza Accord agreements) after Japan’s economy was catching up fast with America. The Anglo-America Empire has been using the “divide-and-conquer” tactics throughout histories. For example, Iran-Iraq, Iran-Saudi, Serbia-Kosovo, Russia-Ukraine, Europe-Russia, India-China, Mainland China-Taiwan, India-Pakistan, Gaddafi-NTC, Maduro-Guaido, Putin-Navalny, Al Assad-The Kurds, Al Bashir-South Sudan and many more. The DPP banned media in Taiwan which favor reunification, and created propagandas against Mainland China so that the young Taiwanese dislike Mainland China. Pelosi visited Taiwan in Aug 2022 against sternest warning from Beijing, to provoke a Chinese civil war, after which Mainland China surrounded Taiwan with battleships. In Apr 2023, McCathy’s acceptance of Tsai’s official visit to the USA, further escalated tension across the straights.
11. The US forced Taiwan to setup a TSMC plant in Arizona, scheduled to complete by 2024. This effectively robbed the crown jewel of Taiwan’s economy, with its peripherals, contributes to over 30% of Taiwan’s GDP. After the completion of the TSMC plant in Arizona, the US could even sabotage TSMC plants in Taiwan, to control world’s chip production, just like how the US sabotaged Nord Stream pipelines to control energy supply to Europe. After which, Taiwan will be even more dependent on agricultural export to China. The US is not helping Taiwan, its only interests are: Selling weapons to Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Australia and getting them to fight a proxy war against China in Taiwan, just like how it’s using EU countries to fight a proxy war against Russia in Ukraine.
On 17th Jan 1893, America overthrew Queen Liliʻuokalani of the Hawaii Kingdom in a coup and made Hawaii its territory, because Hawaii was a geopolitically strategic location in the Middle of the Pacific. America cares about Taiwan as a geopolitically strategic location to counter China, not about people in Taiwan.
A PEACEFUL reunification of Taiwan to Mainland is a nightmare for America;
A PEACEFUL independence of Taiwan from Mainland is also a nightmare for America.
America wants a Chinese civil war just like the Slavic civil war in Ukraine right now.
As Anthony Blinken said on Dec 7, 2023:,“if you look at the investments that we’ve made in Ukraine’s defence to deal with this aggression, 90% of the security assistance we’ve provided has actually been spent here in the US with our manufacturers. This produced more American jobs, more growth in our own economy.”
Vietnam, Laos, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Palestine, Ukraine….. America intervention has been historically prolonged and disastrous.
Good luck Taiwanese.
Very well written. 👍👍👍
You're not going back too far in history on point 8. Why might that be? The PRC doesn't want Taiwan back since it has never been part of the current dynasty, and only occasionaly part of past dynasties, they just want Taiwan for their own gains.
As a European, I can assure you that the current war that's going on in Ukraine is not a "slavic civil war". Firstly, modern Ukraine was recognized by modern Russia as an independent country, so not by any definition a civil war. It's a war between states just as has occurred many times in that region. Moscovia took Rus in the past, now Rus is defending itself from Moscovia wanting to repeat its past moves, to put it in historical terms.
Yep, in general.
I get your point Luke, but do you know that the authority of Qing is owned by Manchuria people, a Tungusic tribe based in Siberia, Mongolia and nowadays northern China, not by Han Chinese people. And here’s what I’m going to explain why Taiwan is not as simple as you claim to be: For the past 2 millennium years, Chinese people has been defined as Han Chinese people only, this is based on the theory of the greatest philosopher of ancient China, Confucius, he believed that the ethnic group in central China is the only legal ruler of this land (the word “China” as “中國” in Chinese language, with “中” representing central or center, “國” for country, meaning “the country of the central “ in Chinese language, the concept was even created far ahead of Confucius’ time) although there was no concept of Han at the time.
/ Qin Shi Huang’s first ever unification of ancient China ended hundreds of years of conflicts since the collapse of Zhou dynasty, making him the first ever emperor of the land. Followed by the collapse of his Qin/Chin dynasty, every successor had been taking a grand unified China as their ultimate ideal. The Han dynasty right after Qin dynasty wildly adopted the ideal of Confucius, making him the orthodox of China’s tradition, the concept of Han Chinese people was also created at this time. Han dynasty also succeeded Qin Shi Huang’s foreign policy of fighting against ethnic groups from northern, inherited Qin Shi Huang’s legacy of the Great Wall, the fortification preventing the invasion from north. The conflict between Han China and northern ethnic groups is actually the collision of an agrarian society and nomadic society.
/ But what that has to do with Taiwan? Well, since the Han Chinese regime is the only legal regime of China’s tradition, other regimes that defeated Han China to govern China are all aliens regimes, they are not accepted by Han China’s tradition, and it’s also a fact that Han Chinese resist Qing government, launching countless rebellions against Manchuria people during Qing dynasty. The founding father of modern day China, Sun Yat-sen also claimed the illegality of Qing dynasty by declaring Manchuria people as invader of China, overturning the illegal government of Manchuria, reclaiming the independence of Han Chinese people and China has been Sun and other revolutionists’ primary goal. Therefore, traditionally Taiwan wouldn’t be part of China.
/ Before Manchuria took over China, Taiwan, and even Tibet, Xinjiang were never parts of China’ regime, due to the fact that they are totally different ethnic groups, no common in religion, this is however quite different than the situation in southern China because Chinese people in the south are basically the same Han Chinese group who moved to the south long ago. When one civilization rules another different civilization, it always follows oppression, violence and inequality. At the time that Tibet, Xinjiang and Taiwan were colonized by Manchuria people, millions of people died in conflict.
/ Same as indigenous people killed by British colonists in America and Africa. One of the reasons why that the indigenous ethnic groups in these regions have so many problems with the authority of China today. A tragic story in Taiwan also indicates the oppression, when people from mainland China took over Taiwan hundreds of years ago, indigenous Taiwanese were forced to move from flatland to mountains, many of them killed. In 1949, after communist regime’s decisive victory in civil war against Chang Kai-shek’s KMT party, Chang had his regime of ROC retreated to Taiwan, indigenous people lived in the mountains were later named “Gaoshan group” by ROC, meaning people living in the mountains, very much a discriminatory term.
/ Meanwhile in the mainland, CCP took its opportunity, invaded Tibet and Xinjiang (the two regions were completely independent regions during civil war after the collapse of Qing dynasty), having them colonized, claiming its illegal ownership. Here’s the thing, Taiwan has never been official part of China, but all of a sudden, but ever since ROC retreated to Taiwan, now Taiwan is also part of China? We all know that doesn’t stand the ground.
There have been human activities in Taiwan for a long time. In the Early Paleolithic Age, about 450,000 to 190,000 years ago, the Changbin Culture in Taitung, 30,000 years ago, is the oldest culture in Taiwan known to archeology. The more recent Neolithic Age has the Austronesian language group. of archaeological remains. Because Taiwan is located in the northernmost part of the Austronesian language group's activity range, it is also considered to be the possible linguistic and genetic birthplace of the Austronesian people. In the 17th century, there was a Dadu Kingdom in central Taiwan that exceeded the size of ordinary tribes, and the Dutch Empire and the Spanish Empire colonized the southwest and northwest of Taiwan respectively. Afterwards, the Dutch expelled the Spanish and ruled most of western Taiwan. In April 1661, Zheng Chenggong led an army of 25,000 and hundreds of warships to besiege the city of Jelandja, the capital of the Netherlands. The Netherlands signed a surrender agreement on February 1, 1662. Taiwan entered the Ming and Zheng Dynasties. During this period, a large number of Han people immigrated to Taiwan. .
1:58 Slight correction there. Qing China was invaded by Japan in the 1890s and ceded Taiwan to them then. So Japan ruled Taiwan for 50yrs till they lost WW2, then had to return Taiwan to China.
Taiwan is a province of China. Taiwan is a province according to the ROC constitution.
Roc is located in taiwan. It's a country
Taiwan is located in the ROC. Taiwan = ROC, but the ROC = China. Simple logic. Taiwan is a province of the ROC, and hence part of China. Respect the ROC constitution. This is the status quo of Taiwan. No word tricks can change this.
Taiwan is located in the ROC. Taiwan = ROC, but the ROC = China. Simple logic. Taiwan is a province of the ROC, and hence part of China. Respect the ROC constitution. This is the status quo of Taiwan. No word tricks can change this.
The ROC map actually includes mainland China too, search it on Google
Yes, an internal war between two political parties, but not between two countries.
interesting. you make good points. Even countries which claim to support Taiwan don't recognize them officially on paper, which I think is strange.
Yes to me that’s so unfortunate to the Taiwanese, Taiwan shouldn’t give microchip to any country doesn’t officially recognize Taiwan as a country
So true🎉
I’m from taiwan province of China and Totally agree with you.❤
As does most of Taiwanese however, western media amplifies the voice of separatist intentionally to gather support from their own population to get consent for war in China.
To be more clear, Canada follows a “One China Policy,” which acknowledges that there is only one Chinese government, does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state and does not maintain official government-to-government relations with Taipei. However, Canada never recognized that Taiwan is part of China. So theoretically, the status of Taiwan is undetermined to Canada.
這是正確的
很多國家也是這樣與台灣保持關係
但到中國那邊就變成了“承認”
而不是”認知”
他們很擅長玩文字遊戲
Could you please explain to me, a single reason why the ruling of Qing government over island of Taiwan is not colonialism, why is that when China invaded other regions, it’s reunification not invasion?
Could you please explain to me, a single reason why the ruling of British government over the continent of North America is not colonialism. One difference between NA and Taiwan is that ethnic Chinese had lived in the Penghu Islands and Taiwan since the Song Dynasty. Let me help you out, that's 1,000 years ago.
I’ve seen too many people say on CZcams that Taiwan is a country, which made me very angry, but today I saw a real video about the history of Taiwan Province of China. Thank you.
Qing Dynasty inherented Taiwan from Ming Dynasty and Roc inherented Taiwan from Qing Dynasty ， WHEN PRC announced they established People Republic of China， this announced they are separated from Roc ， since that time there are two China， one is Republic of China （Taiwan）， one is People Republic of China ，Roc still existing。
@@user-hc7ue1mm2nOn October 25, 1945, the Chinese government announced that it would "resume the exercise of sovereignty over Taiwan." Therefore, China recovered Taiwan legally and de facto. After the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949, it completed a regime change in the sense of international law. China's representation in the United Nations is the representation of all China, including Taiwan. At the legal level, United Nations General Assembly Resolution No. 2758 clearly stated that China The government of the People's Republic of China is the only legal government representing the whole of China, and Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory.
@@user-hc7ue1mm2n Roc still existing. so the civil war has not ended!
Free Taiwan, free Hong Kong
😂😂😂 It's not the government that runs Taiwan, it's United Bamboo...
When my family came to Hong Kong, there wasn't a Taiwan per say, it was still Formosa! And yes, I am that old.
Taiwanese police are a lot more like North Korean.
That's a bit racist, isn't it?
Thanks for the excellent arguments
Luke can speak the truth and fact as a foreigner. Economically, they are much dependent on the Mainland but they always deny instead they will say TW generated profit for them. Just to ask, PRC can live without TW or vice versa.
China cannot live without Taiwan, but Taiwan can live without green frogs
actully, not really. lets say, just say there the mainland and taiwan are two countries, and they are in a war with each other, without outside help, who would win the war? its a no brainer, taiwan can't defand it self. not from China, not from Japan, not even from holland.
@@Leoq-zk6wt Make a hypothesis. Because the Republican Party of the United States was dissatisfied with the policies of the Democratic Party, cities that supported the Republican Party called on people to join the army and attacked the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party failed continuously in the battle with the Republican Party and retreated to San Francisco. The Democratic Party still used the name of the United States of America, while the Republican Party occupied hundreds of U.S. Ninety-five percent of the territory was divided and the establishment of a new country was announced as the Nuts United States of America. It also stated that it would eliminate the Democratic Party and achieve territorial unification of the United States. So, do they belong to the same country or two different countries? Is this a civil war or a foreign war?
@@leeming2781Suggestion: "Retreat to Hawaii" is better than retreat to San Francisco!
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As A REAL TAIWANESE, some FACT here
1. Country or not, or called a place, a territory. Taiwanese DO NOT want to be part of the communist, even CKS knew don’t hangout with CCP. The China that CKS want it back was “Republic of China” not PRC
2: if I deny any real human as a human , he or she still a human ; if I deny a whale swim in the ocean , the whale is indeed still swimming in ocean everyday . So Taiwan as a country truly exists , it doesn’t need a non-Taiwanese to define Taiwan . Real gold is golden, the counterfeit can’t replace gold .
3. Taiwanese don’t care about UN now, especially after COVID19 the UN gave in to CCP China when the outbreak was from Wuhan. Still no answer how the covid happened. UN is corrupted. Taiwan has world leading medical technology to satisfy its own medical needs, especially being isolated from the world it forced Taiwan to be resilient and independent.
4. Currency in paper , digital , bitcoin etc , Taiwanese economy is stronger then PRC. CCP’s dictatorship has led to Chinese people flee all over the world lately via real estate collapsed, Chinese realtors took 90% pay cut and bad mortgage loan everywhere in PRC now. Communist Chinese are miserable
5. We look our life forward, not backward , CKS was a dictator. The constitution then doesn’t reflect the Taiwanese people’s value now, it needs a reform .
Just like in the U.S. the 2nd Amendment doesn’t reflect majority of American’s will. Constitution need reform at level base on reality. It’s like some British people doesn’t think the monarchy is needed , England is too expensive and British people isn’t happy about their economy while the palace live so well .
It would make more sense to me this CZcamsr film something about palace in England. Not Taiwanese future. Let Taiwanese decide their own future.
Taiwanese hate communism and it’s concerning this CZcamsr from a free world is ok with Taiwan combine with CCP dictatorship
Most Westerners that say Taiwan is a country only know that Taiwan exists and not much else. I've asked plenty of Westerners and they have never even heard of the ROC. How can you make statements like that without the most rudimentary understanding of the situation?
It is Chinese territory (belong to China)
Taiwan isn't a country.
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@@virushkthat's all, old kidd?? Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha.. that's all you could say?? No more lies and BS here?? Hahaha.. hahaha... hahaha..
@@virushkbut he is right
Even before Qing Dynasty, it control by China government "Ming Dynasty".
Calling Taiwan a country is like calling California a country. 😂😂😂
@zilinxu2231, It's true it was part of Mexico but the US took it from Mexico. Lol! That’s why most of the cities in California are in Spanish. 😒
@zilinxu2231 Then can you tell me why the United States has anti-secession laws?
@@leeming2781 smart
Taiwan is the roc. The mainland is prc. Two different countries
@@Sean-giang, You are showing us all how ignorant you are. 😂🫵
Taiwan is a island not a country.
it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. therefore its a duck (in this case an independant country) even if you insist on calling it a chicken.
the Trump's Wall analogy is a non-sequitur argument since it was build within the USA under the same political juricediction of the rest of the USA. Of course it remains under the control of the USA otherwise each transition from one elected party control to another would require a civil war to settle who owns what. Madness. Taiwan does not function under the same political system as the mainland PRC so therefore is nothing like USA border walls, isnt that obvious?
中華民國憲法增修條文 (民國93年立法94年公布)，為因應國家統一前之需要，依照憲法第二十七條第一項第三款及第一百七十四條第一款之規定，增修本憲法條文如左。台湾如果是国家，台湾国何时成立，独立宣言是什么，第一任总统是谁。什么国家承认了台湾国的存在？The additional provisions of the Constitution of the Republic of China (promulgated in 1993 and 1994) are in order to meet the needs before the reunification of the country and in accordance with the provisions of Article 27, Paragraph 1, Paragraph 3 and Article 174, Paragraph 1 of the Constitution. , amend the provisions of this constitution as shown on the left.If Taiwan is a country, when was Taiwan established, what is the Declaration of Independence, and who was the first president.Which country has recognized the existence of Taiwan?
Agree with you👍👍👍
I tried to find info about Taiwan constitution on one china, could you guide me to it? What does it say exactly?
Here:
law.moj.gov.tw/ENG/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?pcode=A0000001
You can find it in Chapter 1, Article 4. And if you are not sure of the definition of "territory" in this article, you can refer to Chapter XI, Section 1, especially article 119 and 120.
(Honestly the ROC's policies of self-government is not so different from what PRC is doing now. Only in mainland we call them "Autonomous Region".)
The current constitution of the Republic of China still claims the whole China as its territory from 1912 on, as it had began to ruled the whole China until 1949.
english.president.gov.tw/page/93
So you can have 2 Chinas or only one China, which is logical paradox?
The position of the United Nations is that the People’s Republic of China represents the whole of China as the sole and legitimate representative Government of China. The decision until now about the wish of the people in Taiwan to join the United Nations has been decided based on the resolution (General Assembly Resolution 2758) mentioning that the Government of China is the sole and legitimate Government, and the position of the United Nations is that Taiwan is part of China.
我只能說在歷史上以前”中國 ”就是”中華民國”，後來幾年後”中華人民共和國”出現，因為某個因素導致國共內戰，中共人打中國人，因為中國人打輸中共人太多了，很多中華民國一堆土地被中共人奪走了，我們中國人只能躲到最後一個島嶼裡，但是我們還沒消滅掉，我們中國人要守護最後一個島嶼，你說英國有很多島嶼我能理解，但我們中國人不屬於中共的一部份，因為我們還活著還沒消滅掉，我們只是躲在島嶼而不是在路上，時間流逝，我們已經習慣叫臺灣了，但我們是中華民國人不是中華人民共和國人，世界上有很多雙重或多重國籍，但大部份都是在陸地上，我們則是在島嶼上，我們比較特殊就是了
I can only say that in history, "China" was the "Republic of China". Then a few years later, the "People's Republic of China" appeared. Due to a certain factor, the civil war between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party was caused. The Chinese Communists fought against the Chinese because the Chinese defeated the Chinese Communists. There are too many. A lot of land in the Republic of China has been taken away by the CCP. We Chinese can only hide in the last island, but we have not wiped it out yet. We Chinese have to protect the last island. You said that the UK has many islands. I can understand, but we Chinese are not part of the CCP because we are still alive and have not been eliminated. We are just hiding on the islands instead of on the road. As time goes by, we have become accustomed to calling it Taiwan, but we are the Republic of China. You are not from the People's Republic of China. There are many dual or multiple nationalities in the world, but most of them are on land. We are on islands. We are special.
When you film in mainland do the CCP take your phone and check what you doing like the cops in Taiwan check your phone?
Yeah that was just beyond
they do
@@mjouwbuis if you sniff ways too many PomPigO genocide toxic fart than you'll delusioning they do.🤣
He was filming in front of the presidential palace so of course they're going to ask. Try filming in the people's hall.
The background music is louder than your voice.
Thank you for the history lesson to those who don’t know how Taiwan relates to mainland China.
One error I have to point out is: Taiwan was taken in 1895 from Qing Dynasty and Chiang Kai Shek never ruled Taiwan before it was returned to China in 1945, when WWII ended since the ROC was the legitimate government of China at that time.
Yah... When he mentioned that part on CKS, I went "Mmm?"
I think the point is the idea of a "country" is purely a social construct, and that a country is one in which others recognise it as such. Even if Taiwan functions like an independent state, it isn't recognised as such. If the confederates fleed to Florida and built a wall, had their military and their own state functions, that doesn't make it a country.
With the brutality of the ROC, that argument is essentially an analogy. Western media doesn't cover the horrors of the KMT and overexaggerates and fabricates claims on Mao's PRC.
Actually, at that point in time that would probably have made Florida a country.
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country.
Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following...
*Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China?
And why would they?
War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer.
War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._*
Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland.
*Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Just because you treat the region as an autonomous authority doesn't mean it's a country. The thing that makes a country a country is recognition. Sealand could be a country by your metrics, but it isn't one is it.
@livinlavidaluke, a very well argued video with information that Western media never wants to tell the audience. There are two other examples you can use to say that a territory with own government, currency and army and people does not necessarily make it an independent country. These were the Manchukuo, a puppet state created by Japan in Northeast China. People in Manchukuo were also indoctrinated that they were NOT Chinese and they even were forced to worship Japanese religion. The other one was the Soviet Republic of China (1930-1935) in southeastern Jiangxi and western Fujian under Mao and Zhu De. Both the Manchukuo and the Soviet Republic claimed to be independent states unrelated to China. But, they were NOT independent state. Taiwanese often say, well, the PRC has never collected tax from Taiwan and has no right to claim sovereignty. Well, the ROC had never ruled Taiwan before 1945 when it took Taiwan back. The PRC had never ruled or collected tax over Hong Kong before 1997. None of the PRC, the ROC, not even the Qing Dynasty had ever ruled Macau before 1999, you know what happened in 1999? China under the PRC took Macau back. Anyway, great, an enlightening and fact-based video, @livinlavidluke. Well done!
If it walks like duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck!
中國鴨是的。
Well, is Hawaii a country? Hmmm..... But, I see your point. China and Taiwan are Chinese. Hawaii and USA Mainland are way different, it's people that is. Good job.....
身為台灣人，我知道台灣不是國家，統一和獨立問題，大選時都會提到。😅
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Did Mao finished his final mission in 1949. !!!
But the ridiculous reality is nobody gives shit to their damn constitution on that dysfunctional island 😂
Uk is belong to Italy historically 🎉🎉🎉🎉 or France？ 😂😂😂😂😂
Well explanation and commentary 👍👍👍👍
Thank you Luke!
oh, never know. learned a lot
I'm surprised to find this video, and further surprised that you're not getting hate comments from Taiwanese.
Anyway, here's a simple argument: If Taiwan was a country of it's own, Taiwan wouldn't be needing to talk about independence from China.
"Country" is dirty word, and I don't think it should be the centerpiece for arguments about Taiwan. Scotland is usually referred to as a country, yet the parliament in London can still legislate for it which is more than what can be said for the NPC's legislative power over territories administered by the ROC.
It's the same situation as North and South Korea. Both claim sovereignty over the other, govern themselves independently of the other, were once unified and share a language, culture, history and even name. The ONLY difference is they did not create a "one Korea" principle to be the foundation of their foreign relations so there's nothing stopping them from both being in the UN and having official embassies in the same country.
Also that sentence "the current government are steering away from that to be independent" is just so disingenuous. Their ACTUAL position is to maintain and reinforce the status quo. They do not need to declare independence for Taiwan when the ROC is _based there_ making up 99% of the territory they control and when the only thing that _really_ matters is for Beijing to not have control over their territory which the current status achieves perfectly fine. But of course wanting to maintain the status quo sounds too peaceful so Beijing had to hype up this big boogeyman of "taiwan independence" to paint themselves as the victim of this provocative little rogue province instead.
Everyone knows why Israel can carry out genocide without restraint? The answer is U.S. support. In the same way, it doesn’t matter whether Taiwan is a country or whether Taiwan’s ruling party lies. The answer is that the United States supports it.That's all the truth.
Here's another truth...
Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country.
Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following...
*Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China?
And why would they?
War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer.
War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._*
Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland.
*Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
Canada was one of the first Western countries to establish diplomatic ties with the People’s Republic of China. However, Canada has never recognized Taiwan as part of China. The 1970 Canada-China communiqué reads:
The Chinese Government reaffirms that Taiwan is an inalienable part of the territory of the People’s Republic of China. The Canadian Government takes note of this position of the Chinese Government. -A quote from Scott Simon
The framework, known as the Canadian formula, was immediately adopted by Italy and at least 30 countries that subsequently established diplomatic ties with Beijing. These countries continued to trade with Taiwan.
Exactly, Taiwan is not a country. Even US does Not recognise Taiwan as a country.
Well said!
A simple question: if taiwan is a country, where is its border?
Finally found a westerner CZcamsr who truly understand why Taiwan is not a separate country. 👍🏻
It de facto is, but it could reunite if the ccp autocracy wasn't obsessed with control.
@@jonatand2045 Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country.
Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following...
*Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China?
And why would they?
War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer.
War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._*
Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland.
*Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
@@horridohobbies
I already answered to that copypasta.
Can I interest you in some tickets to Shen Yun? 😂😂😂
You know a lot, this is the real history, but you are wrong about one thing. In fact, the rule of Taiwan already existed in the Ming Dynasty.
Why not film about Buckingham Palace? Let Taiwanese people decide their own future ! Taiwan doesn’t want to be part of communism. The con-sense is mainstream. Not the outdated paperwork. Remember the Soviet Union is COLLAPSED. The agreement that effect Taiwan are very very old ( such as ISO 3166 is a complete piece of crap)
Taiwan is a new country and still working its own way .
How about filming if monarchy is needed anymore ? The British people can’t live with inflation 😢
Like BBC but factual.
He's 蔣介石 not 張介石
History is always written by the winners duh...
Taiwan is not a sovereign country should be mentioned as holding presidential election.. it can be said, to have a governor...😊
I read elsewhere that Taiwan's lean towards independence is unstoppable because growing up in Taiwan is all that younger voters have ever known. In the recent elections, they are particularly concerned with bread-and-butter issues. Putting B&B issues aside, I'm curious how they (millenials, Gen Z onwards) think about reunification--no case? On their own terms? Or what other scenario?
Were China a free and democratic country, the unification of Taiwan with mainland would never be a problem at all. The millennials, Gen Z onwards are not blind.
@@david3549tw 台灣有個屁民主😂
Have you voted lately? @@user-qv9pc3ee2o
The UN Charter clearly stated and recognised by every member states barred a few small states who still recognised the ROC as the legitimate China. But some Western Countries cooked the book and painted an opaque picture that Taiwan is Democratic ruled island and thus seen as unthouchabled and must be left alone！
Exactly, leave democracies alone. It's enough that autocrat f up their own domains.
少有的明白人
Nice video. Taiwan is a beautiful country, great scenery, very clean, good service, great food and people are very friendly. However, their politics, even domestic issues (nothing to do with China), can be very heated up as can be observed in their fiery parliament sessions and the rare occasions where the "White House" gate was rammed. Hence, the tight security that you faced and the young policemen were careful and actually quite polite, in asking you to leave. Other than that, Taiwan is a highly recommended lovely and safe place to visit (don't let the geopolitics distract you). Cheers.
Yes, the PRC never ruled over Taiwan. The ROC on the other hand ruled over "China" after the Qing. So, the Question is who is the legitimate government? Let's do it in a democratic way, let's figure it out in a poll.
Get over yourself, why does it have to be on Western "democratic" terms? Even if there was a vote of all the Chinese on both side who do you think will win 99% of the "vote"? Then you people will call fraud and all this garbage bollocks...
Hello, that island belongs to China when your grandpa didn’t even born yet.
It’s hilarious that people use this “having never ruled Taiwan” argument as the illegitimacy for ruling Taiwan. You know that no government has ruled over a territory before it rules it, right? So what exactly is the point of this very argument?????
Usually self-hating Chinese that have been brainwashed by the West, sad sad people.@@shineluvslambiel
You told the truth! Taiwan Province really belongs to China! !🎉
A lot of people have strong biased toward someone or something and very hard for them to get rid of these biases. You are clearly a very intelligent and have a high level of education. Your logic are correct and very precise. The majority of viewers are just common folks, have the ability to read articles on the subjects from the internet, and some are quite good in English writing skills. The reality can be described into:
1/If Taiwan is not part of China, then why a retreat government with nearly half of million soldiers chose Taiwan and not Laos, Thailand, Vietnam...
2/Both parties want to finish each other. Taiwan had hope to go back and retake the vast mainland because of the fail economy of mainland for a long time and Taiwan had been prosperous during that time, the mainlanders , facing the constant thread of starvation, will fall and Taiwan government will move back as national saviors. The mainland PRC also want to defeat ROC in Taiwan to complete its victory. Unfortunately, The US Navy has been too strong sailing through Taiwan straight all the times.
3/ The majority of very valuable historical artifact and relics from thousand of years of the whole China moved to Taiwan Museums.
4/Taiwan, act as the legitimate , sole represent of China, enter the dispute of South China Sea islands based on the China historical fact as proofs, not based on native Taiwan tribes people visiting, possessing of these islands.
5/ The national security interests are very important for the US, any potential events , no matter how small it is, is a thing the US want to address. Case in point: the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia actually k..ling several millions of citizens, The West and the US clearly knew about it, but these actions did not cause any harm to national security Interest, so ignored it.
In conclusion: It is understandable that many Chinese lived in Taiwan want to retain their forms of government but based on the foundation of claiming that Taiwan is not a part of China is not smart. If every governments on earth stated the fact that indeed, Taiwan is not land of China, then they (with all think tanks, high powers advisers and officials) will not hesitate to recognize
Taiwan (Us Congress will do it and campaign with UN for new membership).
The bottom line is this: Even right now, assume the current mainland government is a western democratic style. Will it be ready to lose a big strategic island of Taiwan?
Debating whether or not Taiwan is a country is unproductive and useless. Nearly the entire world subscribes to the One China principle. Neither the UN nor the USA recognise Taiwan as a country.
Regardless of your viewpoint, the crucial question is the following...
*Will other countries intervene to prevent the reunification of China and Taiwan?* Will they risk war with China?
And why would they?
War with China will be destructive to the entire world. It will destroy the world economy. All nations will suffer.
War with China will devastate all participating countries, probably including USA, UK, Japan, and Australia. We're talking about millions of casualties. In the worst case, this could include the use of *_nuclear weapons._*
Imagine major cities in USA, UK, Japan, and Australia wiped off the map. Imagine vast stretches of radioactive wasteland.
*Please tell me why all of this is worth intervening in the China-Taiwan conflict?*
if there were not for the USoA, then China would already been reunited with Taiwan (the cival war would be ended with the defeat of the KMT, because the KMT would not have enough ships to move all the troops and equiptment and gold and such to the island of Taiwan without the help of the USoA ships.
Yes ,Taiwan is country
Why?
So theoretically, the status of Taiwan is undetermined, at least to the majority of the Western Countries.
理論上講？那你講個屁哦！理論上就是大多數西方國家和地球百分之99的國家 不承認台灣獨立 更不支持台灣獨立！都只會認同 台灣屬於中國🤭
🕳️🐸💔
Taiwan is an independent country.
Thank you you are honest and respected.
You can learn about the history of Taiwan. There are aborigines and Han people in Taiwan, but most of them are Han people. The Han people are also divided into different ethnic groups, such as the Hokkien people and the Hakka people. Among them are people from other provinces and people from this province. Most people from this province are more supportive of Taiwan’s independence. The concept is that they came to Taiwan 100 or 200 years ago during the Qing Dynasty or even earlier before the establishment of the Republic of China. They were ruled by the Dutch, Portuguese, and Japanese, and some of their blood was mixed with the Taiwanese aborigines (Pingpu ethnic group), so they self-identify as Taiwanese. However, Japan was defeated in World War II, and the Kuomintang of the Republic of China came to Taiwan. People from other provinces, that is, many self-identified as Chinese. They oppressed Taiwanese. We must speak Chinese and are not allowed to speak Taiwanese, so Traditional Chinese has become our national language. , had this not happened, our main languages might have been Taiwanese and Japanese.
继续编，使劲编
继续编，使劲编
@@yangli8147 笑死牆內的，上google查一下資料好嗎，你才需要使勁編，本來就是事實了哈，國外論壇和日本論壇都有，還有你台灣人還是我台灣人。
Thank you！
我是台灣人，但我非常尊重你的說法，儘管我不認同😂
不過，你已經提到了，你是用共產黨的角度去看這件事情
那麼你說的是完全沒錯的
但我想補充一下
1.大清帝國的歷史文件還在，大清帝國公告天下“禪讓”給中華民國，如果你懂什麼叫“禪讓”的話，就是把國家權力交接。
2.毛澤東在以前接受訪問的時候，就明白的說出，台灣屬於殖民地，並不會從日本手裡奪回，並且國民黨逃去台灣時，他還支持台灣獨立，推翻國民黨。
3.直到1983年前後，中華人民共和國，才修改法律，台灣屬於他們領土。只要他們高興，隨時都可以改變地圖上的名字或是修改法律。
你可能不明白中國，你談他們法律，沒什麼意義，他們是獨裁國家，有些法律大腿一拍，明天就可以改了。
憲法？他們中國憲法裡面寫的很清楚，中國人民有監督機關與言論自由和遊行的權利，你覺得呢？
中華民國憲法增修條文 (民國93年立法94年公布)，為因應國家統一前之需要，依照憲法第二十七條第一項第三款及第一百七十四條第一款之規定，增修本憲法條文如左。台湾如果是国家，台湾国何时成立，独立宣言是什么，第一任总统是谁。什么国家承认了台湾国的存在？
还清呢，扭曲历史你们是会的。
@@jiegao574誰跟你叫台灣國 是中華民國 台灣只是有點像俗稱那樣
@@jiegao574扭曲歷史的事中共才做了不少吧
@@user-fm7ho3cr6o PRC ROC 是一个国家两个政府。你是不是不知道政府和国家的区别。
How much did the commentator received payment from the ccp to promote propaganda, Taiwan has never govern or ruled by the ccp
說出事實就是 收中共錢了？聯合國也承認台灣屬於中國 是不是也受中國錢了？美國前幾天也說了 不支持台灣獨立 是不是也收錢了🤭🤭
唉！你即使理解的再多，仍然無法改變台灣受美國控制，美國不會放手的，無窮無盡的軍購黃金白銀它不香嗎？況且台灣還是美國拿來戳中國的匕首，銳利得很呢！
鹿可英国,你可能操作錯誤了,現在全世界賺取台灣才是能在YT得到流量密碼,雖然你在上海交大投資多年的PhD,在B站頭條那些少得可憐的收益,我不認為你在這塊還能撐多久.畢竟你是在跟全世界市場做對立面.
Well said! Thank You
As to why China is so obsessed with taking over Taiwan, it's because the democratic way of life in Taiwan poses genuine threat to the CCP's ruling over China. However, the CCP should keep in mind this "There is no permanent ruling party".
Paraguay recognizes Taiwan as a country and that's good enough for me.
然而你們並不能參與國際事物 聯合國進不去！巴拉圭更是很多人都沒聽過！掩耳盜鈴嗎😂😂
Hey those who's asumed that Taiwan is not territory of China, please realize that the offical name of the autority on taiwan island is Republic of CHINA, ROC. Google it if you didn't know. This is the officially name stated in their constitution. And ROC's territory includes taiwan island as a province, entire Mainland China, and even more, it includes Mongolia. ROC considers even Mongolia is its territory according to its constitution. It's all in ROC's constitution which you called it Taiwan and thought it was an "independeant island country".
There is only one CHINA in the world. Either People's Republic of China (PRC) on the mainland, or Republic of China (ROC) on the taiwan island, represents CHINA. There's never an independant country called Taiwan.
There is not a single country in the world that establishes official foreign relationship with both sides. 182 contries has foreign relationship with PRC, and 13 contries with ROC (Oops, just dropped to 12 earlier this month). Zero with what you called Taiwan.
CHINA is actually still in a cival war. The cival war between PRC and ROC (just like America's cival war between United States of American and Confederate States of America) has not ended since 1940's. The two sides across the straight has never signed any peace treaty, not even a cease fire agreement. They just stopped firing at each other and tried to sit down to negotiate for a peaceful reunification since 1980's. As of today, either side can start firing at the other side without any political or legal restriction since there's no peace treaty nor a cease fire agreement.
是蔣不是張
Thank you for giving us the truth about Taiwan.
You’re absolutely spot on
Your history w/ regards to Japan is off a bit. The Qing dynasty ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 after Japanese victory in the 1st Sino-Japanese War. It was a dependency of Japan for 50yrs until 1945.
ceded because it was part of the unequal treaties forced on the Qing Government, similar to how Britain forced China to cede Hong Kong
But too bad, after the Japanese lost the war they had given back Taiwan to China 🇨🇳 😊
thats where the centry of humilation part came from, and thats why the Chinese are so stubborn on taking it back.
If Taiwan were as far from China and Australia or Canada or USA are from Britain, and it had been colonised recently by Chinese, it is possible that it could become a separate, independent country. Like Singapore is a sovereign nation in Asia. But with its unique history going back centuries of beung a Chinese province, and its proximity to China mainland, this is not even a remote possibility. Yes, it can have a different system of administration like Hong Kong and Macau or like some of the autonomous provinces if China, but not exist as an independent nation. Furthermore, the fact that it has welcomed US and EU interference in its body politic ruled that out long ago.