The SAM War - Global Arms Trade, Patriot vs S-400
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Love this channel. Mainly because it doesn't have a robot voiceover.
I pity you for watching those that do
Russian trolls love the robot voice
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i dont buy s-500 i alredy pre ordered s-500!
It does. Just a more advanced version.
Thanks for the review. I think I'll buy the S-400.
I will buy whole squad
better to play safe otherwise America sanction you.
Are they giving fuel with it?😂😂
Otto Weininger
Thanks for the review. I think I'll buy the S-400.
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hi O W...
what reason get the S-400 for...
what to do with this missile for
the yanks will sanction you to bits
One thing wrong/misssing in the video: US had refused to sell Patriots to Turkey several times before they started talks for S400 with the Russians. Then right after Turkey and Russia agreed for the sale, US offered Patriots to Turkey. This is very important in the timeline for the context.
The US outright refused on several occasions, however whenever there were discussions, the Americans refused to include technology transfers with the Patriot system & they could not agree on a price. The S-400 is the superior system & 1/8th the price of the Patriot/THAAD systems. Any nation wishing to purchase American hardware & match the capabilities of the S-400 would have to also purchase the THAAD since the Patriot cannot engage targets at high altitudes.
StandUrGroundNFight
I Thought It Was Because We (The US) Had Delayed On Its Promise To Deliver The Patriot Missile Defense Along With Turkey’s Growing Frustration With US’s Meddling In Turkey’s Political Landscape. Remember The Demonstrations And The Military Coup..?
It don't matter when they offered at the end of the day a country is going to go with the BETTER n more effective weapon system n that's the s-400 Point Blank No Excuse
@system geo For F35 jets, Turkey is one of the devoloper alongh with many country... many major parts of the jet supplied by Turkey so US just can not say we are not giving the jets :)
@@sodurlu88 yes they can,, Turkey only made the canopy,, the jet was made to go up against the s400,, usa knows Turkey would in fact let russia look at it and inspect its capabilities,, so it would be stupid as fuck to let the purchase them. Nato agrees
i bought S-400 and it's marvellous..i think it is not gonna let me down.
I have one built into my favourite hat :-)
I'm holding out for s500 it's got bluetooth
Does it have headphone jack?
Had it let some planes "down"?
it has 4g
Damn! Wish the Patriot air defence system was as defensive as the Patriotic Americans in the comment section.
USA already helped develop MEADS and SkyCeptor, they just have to buy them. The cost of new aircraft took over a large portion of the US budget so there was some resistance to the cost of new air defense systems and only partial piecemeal upgrades are being implemented at this time. Germany is buying MEADS and Poland is buying SkyCeptor.
@Haris Inam If things come to that the USA will be a fallout crater.
@Haris Inam That is ridiculous. The poor countries the USA bullies cannot wipe the USA off the map. I am mainly talking about Russia. In the case of a war with Russia American junk air defense will be useless. No matter how many small helpless countries the USA commits war-crimes on, Russia will still be able to wipe the USA off the map.
You Don’t Invest In Defensive Systems When Your Military Is Solely Used For Offensive Purposes. You Know, Like Invasions..
@@stupidburp The only reason why Poland did buy it is: Poland is USA's underdog
I bought S400 from Amazon with free delivery. Thanks Amazon !
Dont forget S400 come with bonus = US sanction.
NaidiF 。 😂😂😂
No one gives a flying fuck about sanctions. India just inked the s400 deal ignoring the bullshit of us.
dont forget the bonus bonus. after sanctions joining the cadre of dozens of countries now dropping the us dollar : D
In that case US can suck China and India's dick.
obviously they are worried and dont possess anything to match up equally with s400, except that cowardly move of imposing sanction. I bet russia is laughing at US for that.
The Patriot actually friendly fired a F -18 operated by the usa during the invasion of iraq.
Hahah
Really?
ZainT DalmaN yeah, they might have also friendly fired a RAF tornado too.
That's a problem inherent to all SAMs because they all use electronic methods of identification. Russian SAMs have a few bad ID cases of their own as well, most recently MH17.
becauseiwasinverted true, all SAM'S have problems with shooting down civilian aircraft, in 1988 the us navy shot down a Iranian airliner
Ethan Fallert I mean, it was a case of over eagerness and fear of attack, not really the SAM's fault
One big mistake. USA refused to sell patriots to Turkey. That is why Turkey bought s400 systems. USA pushed Turkey to buy S-400 system.
no they refused to sell f-35s, they wanted turkey to have patriots
@@mathewferstl7042 yes but after what salim said, us was not selling patriot tu turkey so turkey went to Russia to buy s 400, after this US decided to change mind and wanted to sell patriot to turkey and if turkey didn’t, US was gonna cancel turkey from f 35 program and that’s what happened
*Title should be "Patriot vs S-125". S-400 is on another level. Patriot couldn't protect Aramco from kitchen-made Houthi missiles*
Patriot its more like S 300 actually.
@@ricardosoto5770 How do you know? The S-300 has NEVER been used in combat. You must believe all the Russian hype.
@@michaelrunnels7660 There are some things I do like about the S 300 and 400 family.. 1 They have their own vehicle erector launchers,, not just a trailer, so is easier to shot and scoot that in truck and trailer based SAM models. 2. They have vertical cold launch. so no turret to swing around to a treat. 360 coverage. 3 They have a whole family of missiles, according to the rage and the threat, to 100km to 400km. 4. They are claimed to be able to engage 36 target at time. That can be Russian bs but the Patriot 3 batteries can only engage 9 to 12 targets. 5. They are cheaper.
@Thor the Creator You are correct. The S-300 and the S-400 are capable SAM systems which MUST be respected by anything flying within range. They are NOT, however, systems that are invulnerable to countermeasures and destruction. The SAM countermeasures that the U.S. possesses and uses are world class and have been used successfully in combat.
@@ricardosoto5770 no S-300 is superior to Patriot. S-200 is also better than Patriot. Syria used S-200 to shoot down 71 out of 103 cruise missiles fired by US, UK and France. I doubt the Patriot could've intercepted even 20 missiles.
Hi russia
Thanks for s-400
Thanks and regards
India
USA : we are gonna put sanctions on every one who buys S400
India : immediately buys S 400 and and signed another nuclear submarine deal .
Alipt Shrivastava No problem with that, besides the US hasn’t sanctioned Saudi Arabia yet for their potential purchase of S400s
@Abhishek And yet India buys it in rupees or bater system with rice.
@@pradeepchoudhary1627 haha correct
@@pradeepchoudhary1627 lmao true
@@papastalin1543 India's military is no threat to USA
I'll have 2 "S400" Please....for front and back of my of house...protect against my neighbours😂😂
one is enough, it can fire 360 :P
A Tunguska might do well for short ranged defense. So maybe purchase a Tunguska instead of the extra S-400.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 Tunguska is outdated, buy Pantsir-S, it's cheap and effective.
@@BugFreeMan but it got burned recently in syria and Armenia against Turkish Drones and Israeli Loitering Munitions.
"the british built their own centurion tanks"
>Shows image of IFV...
British r not that good in arms. Just my opinion.
@@gobimurugesan2411 A mark of a good craftsman is seeing his own tools in competition against him.
@Celtic Resistance OF IT'S ERA MORON! 1950s!
I really must say, such clean and concise comparisons, full of information and no bias. This is exactly the kind of stuff I have been wanting to see on CZcams for years! Thank you so much! I honestly have a load of stuff to discuss with you if you'd like
US: I will Sanction anyone who buys S400.
India: Hold my beer, *Buys S400 and signs another Nuclear Submarine deal with Russia*
@Haris Inam And shoots down the F16.
@Haris Inam dude no us official confirmed it... It was some local us magazine which could provide no proof of who and when did they confirmed the report... And there r a lot of errors in the report
@Haris Inam fukistani😂
@Haris Inam pentagon says not aware of any count...stop smoking kids
@Haris Inam where is the second pilot
Russia Knows Rockets, they always have & they always will!!!
From Katyusha rockets to S400 and beyond!!
Never under-estimate Russia!
No, I'm not Russian!
Never under estimate the USA which is far more powerful than russia.
Jeff Spehar lol
Neurolicious a lot less active nukes by the way, US actually has more warheads active
@Neurolicious Tell that to U.S. and their 10+ aircraft carriers, 800+ bases, strategic submarines and NATO.
@@nicholasmock5285 all that don't mean shit when war breaks out,all a pile of rubble
Turkey: can I buy some Patriots?
US: Nah
Turkey: Okay. *signs deal with Russia to buy S400*
US: I'll offer you the Patriot with incentives on top.
Turkey: What sorta incentives?
US: We'll...not...sanction you?
Turkey: I thought we were on the same team?
US: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same goes to phillipines.. US wont sell helicopter to phil. they dont like to sell to a country that violates human rights by implementing mass killing if drud dealer, pusher and user. So phil. turned to russia to purchase one. Suddenly US defense secretary announced ther are still trying to develop a quality helicopter to sell to phil. Funny how it goes.
Good comment👍👍👍👍👍
@@thomascaspian310 how about stop selling to saudis who violates human rites
@@t.m.saadzamanopu9448 Woahhh buddy we gotta get that black gold first
@@AUniqueHandleName444 Nah, not the black gold, but petrodollar! Without Saudis petrodollar no more!
Since I've bought the s400 my house never got burgled again!
Bill gates should buy the $ 400
The Patriot is not long range, that's why India is buying the S400
and Patriot expensive af
@@lilbiggie5691 3 batteries of S-400 cost equal to 1 battery of patriot and they do not perform that better
@@kunalmandhare3144 let's face the truth russai been making better weapon and cheaper than the US from ww2 cost mean nothing like in the vietnam war US troop would throw out their M-14 and M-16and pick up an AK-47 if it not better the would the US on their knee begging to buy s-400 from any country that have it no country in the would gonna spend 1billion dollar for defence system that mostly likely can't even detect an F-16 or an Mig-26 even Isreal don't use it
Turkey has buy the balistic S-400...new era competition in europe
Your choice of background music is A+... it not only peaks your interest but holds it till the end...
Imagine if all this money, time and manpower went into something constructive for mankind instead.
Yeah, if only we focus on uniting and developing our civilization instead.
gay
Maybe one day when USA bullshit is over in the world
@pranav chaudhary Terrifying, but its true😂
naive hippie
I love going back to old videos like this to see how many people were fooled by the capabilities of the S-400. To say that it’s capabilities have been overhyped, especially after seeing how poorly it’s performed in Ukraine and Syria, would be an understatement. Pretty much the entire Russian military has been overestimated. If there’s one thing that Ukraine was very good at doing is exposing the overly exaggerated Russian military.
Patriot Works 60% of the Time, Every Time
Thanks for the review. Just bought a Patriot site! Made my whole city a no fly zone. The only downside is that the charger wasn't included in the box.
The biggest defender of capitalism can not handle the most vital element of capitalism: competition. The russian system is both cheaper and more effective, any sane buyer would choose it over the US one dear America. Threatening potential buyers of S400 with sanctions and sale bans is unfair competition and is against the essence of capitalism which you are claiming to protect.
Суть капитализма не в "честной конкуренции", а в накопление капитала любой ценой.
Sanctions against Turkey have nothing to do with this. It has to do with Turkey becoming a dictatorship and increasingly anti-western as well as holding a US citizen hostage.
Turkeys relations have gotten worse with pretty much ALL NATO nations (European nations as well), who are worries about human rights violations and Erdogan being a dictator.
Turkey used to be a secular state but Erdogan changes it into an islamist dictatorship.
The Russian system is overrated (as any Russian system). It has never been proven to be more effective. In fact its missiles that are effective against maneuverable aircraft have a shorter range than Patriot PAC2.
Ever thought of the idea that NATO wanted to get a member state to have this system? A NATO nation having S-400 will allow NATO personnel to inspect it and to train against it how to defeat it. NATO aircraft regularly train against Greek S-300 which allows NATO to learn how to best counter and defeat it.
Yes having S-400 is a double edged sword: Yes Turkey can learn how to shoot down F-35s with it, but it can also learn how to dodge S-400s. US is afraid of Russia learning how to defeat an F-35 if Turkey uses S-400s radars, but as I said, it is a double edged blade.
US sanctions have nothing to do with the so called dictatorship. They just don't like the fact that Turkey is neutralizing their YPG allies.
"It has to do with Turkey becoming a dictatorship"
You do realise that the US currently backs 73% of the world's dictatorships militarily, right?
This is the exact amusing thought I had. Empires tend to be bullies and hypocrites tho.
Love this channel cuz of it's accurate depiction and doesn't act biased towards us cuz you're american..i appreciate what you do
Turns out it was never biased. The others just lied. Look how piss poor Russian equipment actually is in the Ukraine war. 😂😂
You have to compare the giant cost difference between the two systems that favours the S-400 triumph
Russians are kings when it comes to anti-air missiles.
Really? To date S-300 has shot down nothing in real combat
Old S-200 raped a modernized F-16 few months ago.
Nothin can stop the Jews even the S400.
Dope Fiend I hear they have a upgrade S500
S-300 and S-400 are deployed in Syria. Lack of any live use raises suspicions... Especially when Mr. Trump whacked the place by 60 Tomahawk missiles in 2017 and at least a hundred in 2018. They should've hit at least one!
2 videos in a week?! Looks like you are actually trying to be a good channel again. Great to see!
Awesome analysis of the factors driving the different development paths for US and Russian air defense (ABM vs Conventional). Can you do a video looking at the potential increasing reliance of the Russian arms industry on foreign sales for conventional defense projects? Since they spend something like 60% of their budget on nuclear forces and consequently don’t have a lot left over for the conventional stuff nowadays and a number of new systems coming off the line at least began as old Soviet projects.
India has a wide range of air defence systems and some are made in India like akash and QRSAM and India has built another long range SAM with Israel and that is Barak 8 another capable system compareble to S400
Any advices on nuclear warheads? I've been considering buying a couple of warheads but I'm not sure how reliable they are.
Awesome video guys,
Clear, unbiased and very informative, 👍👍
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Patriot system isn't a long range air defense system. If you want a more accurate comparison it would be to the US THAAD system.
Nope, the THAAD is only capable of shooting down long range ballistic missiles at high altitudes, not jets or drones or cruise missiles or short range rockets/missiles. The S-400 on the other hand is a jack of all trades. The THAAD is arguably better at intercepting long range ballistic missiles since it was specifically designed for that purpose, however the Patriot is surely inferior to the S-400. The S-400 can be setup & ready in 5 minutes, whereas the Patriot takes 15-30 minutes. The missiles of the S-400 travel almost twice as fast as the Patriot. The S-400 can engage more targets & faster targets compared to the Patriot. To sum it up, any nation wishing to match the capabilities of the S-400 would have to purchase the Patriot & the THAAD together. The problem is that the Patriot & THAAD combo together cost EIGHT times more than the S-400 & in the case of Turkey the US has refused to offer technology transfers whereas the Russians have been more than willing.
@@mistergeopolitics4456 To bridge that gap, Russia is developing he S-500. S-400 wasn't meant to compete with the THAAD
@@mistergeopolitics4456 no one really transfers technology. It is just a nonsense told by the media. Even if it is it will be only to assembly. Otherwise not
S-400 Triumf :
1) 55K6E Command Post
2) 91N6E Big Bird - detection range 600 km & tracked 300 targets.
3) 98Zh6E Fire Unit.
4) 92N6E Grave Stone I/J band Multifunction phased array trailer mounted radar - engaged 36 targets.
5) 96L6E Cheese Board is a C-band 3D early warning and acquisition radar - instrument range 300 km. This radar intended to detect ballistic missile and hypersonic missile.
6) 5P85TE2 Missile Launch Vehicle.
SAM :
-40N6 range 400 km & target's flight altitude 606,955 ft. against AWACS, EW aircraft & Tankers.
-48N6E3 range 250 km & target's flight altitude 98,425 ft. against airborne at 30 km & Ballistic Missile at 60 km.
-9M6E range 40 km & target's flight altitude 65,616 ft. against airborne target at 40 km.
-9M6E2 range 120 km & target's flight altitude 114,829 ft against airborne, cruise missile & ballistic missile.
Future SAM : (9M96M2 range 200 km).
VS
MIM-104C PAC-3
1) AN/MSQ-133 Engagement Control Station.
2) AN/MPQ-65 C-Band PESA radar detection range 100-170 km, tracked 100 targets & engaged 9 aerial targets.
3) M902 Launching Station.
SAM :
-PAC-2 range 160 km & target's flight altitude 78,740 ft. against airborne.
-PAC-3 ALHTK range 30 km & target's flight altitude 49,212 ft against cruise missile & ballistic missile.
-PAC-3 MSE range 120 km & target's flight altitude 131,233 ft. against airborne, cruise missile & ballistic missile at 35 km.
Future : (New radar the LTAMDS AESA to replace the AN/MPQ-65. There is a competition between two company which is Lockheed Martin & Raytheon).
Well, if history tells us anything, Go with Raytheon....their shit works, and Lockheed will deliver late and way over budget. My mind is blown why anyone still does business with them
By that logic basic roots of USA ICBM are of 1940s technology , and USA aircraft carrier of 1930s technology
Hey @doc phibz, I've sneezed on a radar and deadlined it. Raytheon made crap equipment for a long time.
Lol, oddly enough that AK model is pretty accurate to the rough reassembly. Cool vid and awesome channel!
Great video, highly detailed with expert knowledge
Turkey has been asking USA for SAM system for many years. They never sold it to Turkey. When USA agreed to sell it, they refused to share technology to Turkey. Russia has agreed to sell turkey it's SAM on first request itself and has told turkey it will help build SAM systems.
@@zykom1 In fact, Russia is asking Turkey to co-develop the next generation S-500. They co-developed aircraft with India and the S-400 with China. Russia, so far, is playing it very fair. I understand that it's partly for economic reasons, but unlike America they know that cooperation is always advantageous over conflict. If you can't play it expensive and hard, play it smart. America, on the other hand, is throwing around its weight and relying too much on punishment tactics such as sanctioning countries by flaunting their dollar and threats of violence. They don't think that the world is not just the US. In other words; they are shooting themselves on the foot without any regard for the future
@@amonraii7273 The difference is that the USA have a large technological advantage they really can't afford to lose. The Patriot is getting brand new GaN AESA (yes, those that were supposedly going to make the Su-57 a million times better than the F-22 and F-35) while Russia is still struggling to field AESA on their aircraft.
That being said, it doesn't mean I agree with US foreign politics. But in the case of Turkey it's rather the fact that we have a leader that clearly worries more about image than actual good decisions. There's a reason they tried to pretend their own stealth aircraft project is getting anywhere, and that's to pretend that the F-35 decision isn't affecting them.
Need 2 batteries of s400 to proteção my backyard from bees .
I remember watching the news during the first Gulf war. You see the Patriot launching, watch the rocket trail go up ... then make a u turn! 🙈
That was then.
Didn't even know a thing like goatguns existed, thank you I feel like a kid again!
How about the capabilities of S- 500. Can you make a video about it?
Info about it being in service its fake,’it’s still on development
@@VVF-05 yes.its still in a prototype stage but can be deployed if needed
So the video mentions that the usa are considering to stop selling f-35 fighter to turkey fearing that russia might acquire one and figure out its weakness.
When the s-400 was sold to turkey, how come russia does not fear that the usa might acquire one of the s-400 systems just like the usa fears that russia may acquire the f-35.
I think the US already has a single s-400 if I am not mistaken with which it runs training drills. Might have been the s-300 though
No sorry, that was wrong, they baught 2 s-300 Systems from former soviet client states (belarus and croatia) in various state of repairs which with they train. So your question is very valid.
It's a legitimate risk and the US has more to lose than Russia if the tech crossed on both sides.
The Russians know that the s400 will eventually fall into US hands. They are banking on the fact that they can develope newer systems b4 it becomes an issue. Also, they need cash.
psuedozardozz Russia banking on the fact that they can develop newer system before it becomes an issue does not seem as plausible as if the opposite happened- that the usa let the russians acquire f35 fighter and then develop a successor to that. If both countries has this mentality that "we can develop newer systems before our stolen technology becomes an issue", then i can only see the usa coming on top as the usa has a miles more bigger defense budget that russia meaning that the usa will progress their technology faster than russia
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Great recipe for dog food, make it taste like homework or instructions! Seriously, I enjoy your channel.
You didn’t say why Turkey decided to buy s-400
please make longer videos
GREAT REPORT
Very focused report and to the point. No frills.
S400 is the world BEST.
No way Patriot can go near S400.
Bravo Russia.
Ok... I'll bite.
1. This video states the S300 and 400 are not battle proven? If true .... How can it be deemed better?
2. Also seems like all I've seen about the S400 states that it is a Surface to Air Missile and they seem to only talk about planes.
3. Now maybe S400 is better as an anti aircraft missile. But from what I remember the Patriot was supposed to be anti Missile not anti Aircraft.
Also Patriots are what 30 years old? How old is the S400? Some youtube vid quotes an NBC press release from 2012 nearly 21 years after Patriots were being used.
I'm not saying Patriots are better or S400 is worse. But here are some overlooked, IMO, important pieces of information.
1. Age of each system. Patriot 91 / S400's 20??'s do you not believe that improvements have been researched and made.
2. In what conflict has the S400 been used as an anti-missile weapon?
the US could build a system far superior to the S400 if we had the need for it, which we dont. Russia (and China) are still decades behind in aircraft and avionics so it would benefit them greatly. The risk far outweighs the reward. Only a fool would trust Turkey.
Is that a joke?
@@southpaw8040
So why did we increase defense budget if they are decades behind? Don`t get me wrong, with our defense budget bigger than the next 10-15 countries combined, we should be decades ahead! We are not because of that thing called capitalism! F-35 program is the most expensive weapon system US has ever produced, with over a trillion $ price tag! Because all the buddies should make profits! And it could be brought down with a missile or two from S-400 with a few million price tag! Russians, or anybody else for that matter, welcome this kind of races all day everyday!
John Jacob JinglehimerSchmidt just to correct one thing its vice versa the ptriot was made as anti aircraft and later received an upgrade for anti missile which is where it gets its bad rep it is a very capable anti air defense system but mediocre anti missile defense
I'll buy the S400 to protect myself from my mother in law. I have to....
Great video as always! Could you please do a video on the military industrial complex?
Thanks. Well done👍🏾
Ok. I'll buy S-400
The s400s that turkey goin to purchase has differ from others cos missles going to get newly developed IFF systmes apart from Nato and russian ones. Turkish company aselsen recently developed indigenous 450km range Mode4/a , mode5 IFF systems for aircrafts and other platforms like s400s ( that IFF is open architecture and also capable to work with nato network) .BTW turkish s400 procurement includes partialy coproduction and technology transfer in some areas on system but no further information on that.
Orderings S-400 right now on Amazon
Well done sir, keep it up.
S400 is one of the best
If you want defense weapons buy Russia, if you want to be aggressive buy American. Says a lot about a country depending who it buys from. I love how triggered the US is when someone doesn't buy it's weapons.
Joe Ehhhh it’s more like if you want rugged and relatively cheap equipment with low maintenance requirements buy Russian. It’s generally the best choice for countries that lack significant infrastructure, or just want more and cheaper systems. They do generally have the best mobile conventional SAM systems though, that was always a heavy Soviet emphasis due to large and advanced NATO air fleets. They’re definitely lacking in missile defense though. The only weapon in either nations’ inventory that could be considered only for aggressive purposes is the US blue water navy, however. Russia doesn’t bother with that merely because anyone they’d be attacking is right in their border, they don’t preoccupy themselves with force projection.
more like if you're not planning on going against someone who can put up a lot of fight (pirate, insurgents, the occasional protesters) get Russian Vodka
But. if you need to anihiliate a country or keeping an overwhelming foe at bay, treat yourself to American beef patty
Charlie Patton did you even watch this video, they just said Russian is more superior and highly effective. And yet you sir here and spread fake news,! Is that you CNN ??
Burger Are You BBC!? Faker of stories.!!
Joe it says that the US is stronger than Russia. That said Soviet air "defences" were to cover their attacking tanks.
POP, VROOOOOM. that's the sound of an s-300/400 launching.
Informative video, thank you. The S-400 looks promising but I think I'll go with whichever comes with a Mail-in rebate.
Yup s400 will be delivered to India next year 🇮🇳
DAX FLAME 😂 I am missing abhiNONEDONE
@@Shadmir_Ali well we miss your Jordanian secondhand F16 block 50 fighter jet shot by R73 missile of mig 21 bison. 😇
@@Shadmir_Ali US Govt denied claims? Are you delusional or living under a rock. Just give me a reason why will US agree that their aircraft was destroyed by an inferior Russian aircraft? They have to sell that aircraft in east asia. Use brain if you have one. And there is plenty of irrefutable proof given by IAF. Research some and then we will have some discussion
The Indestructible bharape mata ka balatkaar ho gai ga agar Pakistan se panga lo gai , 27th Feb yad karo beta ji
@@Shadmir_Ali are beta jara wars yad karo pehle ke. 3 me se ek war nahi jeet pae ho aur ek aircraft girake khush ho rhe ho. Aur Pakistan to waise bhi doob rha he kuch nahi ukhad sakte tum log bas chillate raho
I desperately want one of the goat guns but they don’t ship to Australia :(
haha is that why you watched this video?
@@ok-re1md I watched the video because my favourite youtuber made a video
Thank u thank u... Awesome video
If Russia allocated at least 75% of what the United States spends on the military budget, the world would look different, but I’m sure that there would be less military conflicts.
S400, the Mercedes of all Surface to Air Missiles! 💯🎉
We are building the S500 right now. It will be capable to shoot down even the low orbit object
Thanks for the unbuyest opinion. Like yor videos, because the're not filled with wamongering propaganda. Just facts. Keep on the good work.
Its unbiased. Not unbuyest
I gives a damn, the patriot looks badass when its missles launch. The s400 looks like a stack of giant pringles cans on the back of a garbage truck.
So unbiased! Thank you!
if you want an independent country and economy - buy S-400. It's the only way.
The issue here is that they offer some of these systems to two-bit dictators who can't afford them, then "barter" for oil, raw materials or propose "partnerships" that ultimately result in a loss of sovereignty and dependence on Russia to continue to exist. See the case of Nicolas Maduro.
@@danielnee4886 Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, soon Iran didn't have S-400 LOL, look what happened or will happen to them. Some countries were better off with dictatorship(the USA decides who is and who isn't, see Saudi Arabia Lol). Every nation evolves in its own pace and is not up to you to decide. During the history(that was told to) big empires all the time was looking for a motive to attack countries that interfered with their interests until some countries learn the weaknesses of the empires and bringing them down. Nothing changed and nothing will. And for world peace, everyone should possess WMD, in my opinion.
@@lonelyruner700 - "Everyone" possessing WMDs could, in theory, be good for world peace, but it would be a disaster for regional peace. Every time some crazy rebel group overthrows a government, they would be going to get access to nukes and other very scary weaponry. Mutually assured destruction only works when all sides (US, Russia, UK, France, Israel, China, etc.) have a lot to lose and do not want their civilization to come to an end. There are parts of the world where one, or both, of those factors do not apply.
Russian S 400 shot down more than 80 of US missiles fired at syria, what do you say about that..?
When??? What type???? LOSER
Love your videos m8!
Great review, I'll stick to the S-400, hope it doesn't mess the grass on my backyard.
The S400 is just an AESA upgrade of the S300 and a new family of missiles so the systems basic roots is older than the Patriot as the S300 entered service in 1978.
It's also more mobile, as it starts from a TEL, not a trailer, has a 360 radar coverage, has a special mast-mounted radar against low flying targets in the system, etc etc. It would be easier to say that soviet-russian idea of what an air defence system should be is just more complete and better for most buyers. Also it comes without a political baggage and a killswitch.
It's not even in service, yet! It's meant to replace patriot but when will that happen? I guess the S500 will enter service faster than MEADS. You can compare your newest MEADS with Russia's not-so-new S400 later. It'll be behind the S500 anyway.
when syria deployed S300, Israel planes magically totally disappeared from Syrian skies. It shows Israel(mother of US) is totally afraid of S300.
if Patriot is better than s400, then why impose sanctions on countries who purchase s400.
@@azone1684 Its not about what is better. Its about geopolitics you dumb shit.
I think the characteristic that sets Patriot above S-400 at least in my mind is the fact that Patriot systems can receive targets from British, French, Canadian, German and other allies. Not only can they operate autonomously, but they can also receive targets from SHORAD units who visually ID targets flying below radar and/or flying a flight profile that evades look-down systems. A Hind hovering in a forest canopy for example. Ground clutter confuses radar systems and therefore, THAAD, HIMAAD, Patriot, Avenger, M6 Linebackers (Retired) can all receive targets from any system within the ADA network including freindly forces. This give us the ability to put up massive fires against an unknown aircraft that at least one system in the network has designated as hostile.
Eastern Bloc systems do not have this ability. They only receive targets within their own network. And as far I know, their fire units cannot communicate with other countries nor can their ground units pass target information to their naval and air units. That's what makes the US a more potent Air Defender. Not any particular missile. Patriot was designed to defeat fast moving Soviet Bombers and strike air craft. Further developments allow it to engage BM. For what it has become, it is a fine system. S-400 is a potent system indeed. Probably in the top 3 on the planet. However, it relies on a dedicated system to be successful. It cannot lose it's radar, or Fire control system and switch it's launcher to another system like Patriot and THAAD can. Testing our TADL-B linkage with Patriot and Stinger systems allow our fire teams to simply press "Slew-to-cue" and engage what Navy radar is tracking and has IFF'd as unknown. No other country has this capability.
That what makes this discussion meaningless. Two totally different systems with totally different capabilities and support systems. I spent over 22 years testing Hawk, Hercules, Patriot, Redeye, Stinger, Avenger, Linebacker and ADATS systems. The only American system I would consider equal in mission to a Soviet system is the shoulder fired Redeye to the SA-7. Nothing else has a direct comparison. I'm biased in American and Western systems no doubt. But i'm not stupid. Respect is given where respect is earned. And Soviet style equipment come with an element of fear. Plain and simple, the shit works. And you would be a fool to underestimate it.
I think modifying the standard 2 missile into land base surface to air missile isn't a bad idea since it can be vertically launched.
The S-400 missile looks to be over twice the size of the Patriot.. The THADD missle seems to be closer in size to the S- 400..
Russia rejected s400 sales to saudi they offered s300 instead.
And america would never let saudi buy any major weapon from russia
Now I see the following situation in Saudi Arabia: rockets continue to attack the territory of Saudi Arabia, the airport is burning, there are victims. Patriot can not cope. What should the military do? But there is a better system and 8 times cheaper ....
Make a video about MOWAG PIRANHA 5 please
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@@laetrille hey, how is your anti russian propaganda group going?
The issue with patriot is maintenance costs. It’s not nearly as model as it clams and cost hundreds of thousands a year to maintain.
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S-400 seems to just be a superior system all around...
Turkey was never a friend or real NATO partner. We do need to update our antiaircraft missile systems.
I'd love to see a video about MEADS, it might have been cancelled as part of the future systems program in terms of acquisition in its former state. But, I believe Raytheon, or whichever contractor developing it, has continued to iterate and test the design. I'm not sure how much public information is available on MEADS but it would be very interesting to see it in a future video @Covert Cabal
Can you get next day delivery for the S-400 on Amazon prime?
Well the patriot missile is beyond shit and obsolete.
It is not obsolete as it has been updated several times.
The pac 2, yes, but the pac 3, no
Patriots are duds they don't work correctly.
Patriot systems was designed at 1968....i know they done lots of upgrades but still....S-400 year 2007...
That realy makes 0 difference
good review
Interesting video :D
what about THAAD
What about your mom...Hehehe.
THAAD isn't SAM but pure BMD system.
THAAD is the sound the manufacturer makes when there's no export clients
THAAD =
Totally Horrible And Absolutely Dumb
SpaceKraken Shows you what trump thinks of sk when he provides them with thad to use for defense from nk.
The S-400 is a much better system than the Patriot, hence the interest from Turkey, China and India.
The onynix hypersonic submarine missle is nasty, by the time the agies rader system sees it, you've got about 10 seconds before impact, low sea scimming missle.
Where to buy this f 35 and s 400 I could use for my personal protection
Hahaha Turkey is the largest military in the area, USA has competitively nothing to leverage compared to Turkey.
Turkey is a terrorism ISIS supporting shit hole
Turkey is the largest military of conscript hungry soldiers and second hand 60 years old German tanks, shut the fuck up. US spends 35 times more on defense that shithole Turkey, or twice as much in 1 year than Turkey has spent in last 50 years. it would take US Navy 1 day to to blow up every single military base in Turkey and morons like you would finally shut up
just try it
I wonder how THAAD compares
THAAD is Patriot on steroids pretty much. Patriot still keeps a conventional warhead, THAAD relies purely on kinetic collision to kill an incoming ballistic missile.
But whats the difference for anti-aircraft/BM? Is there a different design consideration in the missile or radar?
When you're going after aircraft the main guidance tracking input the missile relies on is tracking the heat coming from the aircraft engines, as well as the radar cross-section. When you are firing against a missile however, you can't prox-kill a missile from behind by locking onto its heat signature in conjunction with its radar cross-section; you need to intercept it head on, which means radar-locking onto the target profile is far more important than simply tracking heat output from the missile exhaust. Since a missile is a lot smaller than a plane in terms of radar cross-section and is moving a lot faster, the missile system has to be calibrated with far tighter margins of error and guidance to score a kill against a missile than against a plane.
This means more powerful radars that can be guided with pinpoint accuracy to direct the intercepting missile on target, as well as missiles with higher speeds, maneuverability to get into position ahead of the target ballistic missile, the ability to distinguish radar decoys potentially thrown out by the incoming ballistic missile, and finally in some cases even a larger fuel capacity for the interceptor potentially if you wish to extend the interception envelope further to give yourself more leeway to get on target first time.
@@John-fe1cd ballistic missiles travel at hypersonic speeds, using an angle that's close to straight down. Plane's fly in a roughly level trajectory at supersonic speeds or below and can maneuver. The calculations that have to be done are somewhat different, and systems specializing in one type of target aren't usually good at hitting the other type. Remember that s400 type systems carry multiple types of missiles, while US systems are usually stuck with 1 missile type.
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also the intercepting missile needs to have changes as well it needs to be more maneuverable with better control and better terminal guidance hence better seeker.
Where do I sign up for the S400?
Okay, ready to buy. Definitely going with the S-400 this time.