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Can we just mention how good Jay looks since hes lost weight? Killer bro.
how old is he?
@@mishkatabg7647 like 40
Check out his other channel "Jay Stew Scents", where he pours cans of soup on his old cpu's and describes the smell.
How he loks before lol
Beefy Jay as good as lean Jay . Content 👌
I really hope you do a complete Ryzen and memory overclocking tutorial. These new CPU's aren't the same as older ones. It'll be awesome for someone upgrading to this new stuff from hardware from 5 or 6 years ago.
Like i did 4 weeks ago. Went from 8320fx to r5 3600x
tweaking memory and the infinity fabric is the most important part of overclocking and tweaking for better performance for sure on all ryzen cpu's......i gone from 6900 score in ciniR20 to 9800 just tweaking ram to 3800 mhz cl16 timings with the infinity running 1900 mhz...half the speed of ram always for best performance ...remember Weird Ale's song .....its all about the Pentium...lmao......its all about the infinity fabric now ....lmao
Jay is not the guy you want a memory overclocking tutorial from. Such resources already exist though.
Watch gamers nexus video. Jay is good for entertainment but gamers nexus is better for data imo
Or you could, ya know, watch that content from other youtubers who did it already AND are more tech savvy
I wanted to see the 1% and 0.1% low result in games with different ram speeds.
That's GN heracy right there
You'll have to look at GamersNexus for that.
The results are basically always the same , larger amounts of ram of course decent speed ram , raises the lows up and keeps them higher.. Do i need 64gb of 3600 ram? Not really... Does it give a slight performance benefit? Yes.
Well there’s Fortnite www.reddit.com/r/FortniteCompetitive/comments/h8bptr/how_ram_frequency_affects_fps_in_cpu_limited/?
yea, because we all know, lowest fps makes the difference >.<
he did the tests, but basically it meant nothing without more accurate information.
Now that’s some funny stuff right there, been building intel for years. Just finished my first ryzen build maybe 3 hours ago. An hour later this comes out, thanks Jay!!!
Jay: "Gigahertz is everything"
My friend's FX-8350 clocked at 5.5GHz: "Please allow me to introduce myself.."
Only 5.5? The 9350 came 5 ghz stock
@@Tallnerdyguy 5.5 ghz peasant!my friends car sometimes hits 88 mph, and then some serious shit happens!
i have that cpu on my spare pc, it's not very fast
@@Tallnerdyguy The 8350 came 4 GHz stock. 5.5 stable on all cores is pretty decent for a non-professional build. He was 17 at the time and using a Noctua air cooler.
@@IndyMiraaga Depends on silicon lottery. I can't get mine above 4.5. No matter how much I try. FYI I'm talking about the 8350 and I use water. It's literally the rig I'm still running as I type this. Damn thing just won't go beyond 4.5. (Yes I'm poor and can't afford current gen CPUs. I'm trying though. But my build is around 3K and with 2 children, 3K is ALOT for a computer.)
Having the Windows 95 logo at first I thought I might have clicked on a LGR episode instead.
Windows 95 is coming up on its 25 year anniversary. ;-)
I think it because Bill Gates said something about no one needing more than 192somethingbyte for ram
@@dexterous2513 He never said that though. Those were fake news by authors putting words in his mouth.
@@vidyamancer7135 oh
I still love 98 and XP
11:53 for recommendation
Great video Jay. I have been having issues with my ram for a while where I couldn’t get it to run at 3200mhz even with docp on and all the turbo boost and core enhancement, etc. Thanks to this video I now know to go in and set the Fclock which I shall try later when I’m home from work. Thanks again for the great content you’re putting out.
imagine microcenter actually having full shelves like that, post covid :P
And yet Microcenter is still short on power supplies.
@@venividivici4253 Everyone is short on power supplies. :(
@@Sandriell Agreed :( MC just restocked on a 750 watt and I rushed to purchase one. Now they out of stock again xD
We aren't post covid yet.
@@venividivici4253 I bought mine at best buy. Both places were the same price.
Afaik, timings gives a pretty big boost. You can't just leave it at cl18 in an overclocking video.
Yup, checkout Hardware Numb3rs channel for some interesting results when optimising timings on a Zen 2 setup.
For games xmp settings are still most stable ... I tried and still is the best for my system atleast
He said it's cl15 at 3800. That means at 2133 the auto would be cl12
@ZPinch I tried ram calculator. It doesn't have my Patriot 3200MHz ram in it
@@snipernote I'm using XMP on my MSI X470 Gaming plus and its perfectly stable with gaming and everything else
"It's only wednesday and it's been a long week"
I felt that
Thank you for the help and recommendations I came to look for this EXACT SUGGESTIONS and information. So appreciate it.
I love how you kept the mistakes in. Lol. Really makes your content more enjoyable, and shows that you're just as human as the rest of us. :)
That background really took me back, I was so confused for like 10 seconds trying to wrap my head around how you got the testing suite to work on that, then I saw the taskbar lmao, great video!
Awesome video, great info as always. I am running to my PC to make the changes!
Phil, love the glueing of Jay's face animation. Gold.
Best case scenario after fiddling with Ryzen for the first time was lock my cores to 4.3 and set faster RAM to 3600 with tighter timings and run 1:1 with IF. PBO was always inconsistent even under water for my 3700x. I find it comparable to my 7800x locked at 4.8GHz in gaming while also having 2 extra cores.
9:40 I own both a 3950X system and a 3990X system. In Ryzen Master, you can set clocks by core, by CCX, by CCD, or all core, as well as turn entire CCDs off. The issue (in my admittedly somewhat limited testing) is that you cannot set the voltage per CCD-at least, not through Ryzen Master. So all that fancy undervolting we might be able to do (for example, my 3990X is stable with up to a .075V offset and the clocks otherwise left to auto, and I can run my 3950X at 1.10625 and still hit 4150MHz all-core) is wasted when we have to give the okay to 1.3V+ just so a single CCD can hit that higher clock. It would be really nice if Ryzen Master let us set per-core or per-CCD voltage, that way we could set our programs' affinities so we have a low heat, decent clock on most of the CPU, but then have our 4-8 cores set up to be a little higher clocked for gaming. More granularity is always better, if the user takes the time to understand what it is they might be tweaking of course!
As far as the ideal RAM clock speed, Steve made a really detailed video a few weeks or months back (what even is time?) that explained how the uclock, mclock, and fclock like to be in ratios with each other, and pushing fclock past 1800 whacks out the uclock to be 2:1 instead of 1:1 (basically cuts its clock in half), which robs you of...I want to say 9ns. But of course depending on your kit, if you just push even harder on your mclock and tighten the timings even more, you can still overcome this drawback. For normal people who want to spend their time using their computer instead of tweaking it (both of which endeavors are valid and good fun), 3200C14 or 3600C16 are some pretty attainable sweet spots currently.
My question is why do some of yall stuff run better on lower power when I have gone the opposite direction qnd see my stuff running world's smoother at a higher than stock power limit
Why is this
@@jaygee3032 because you don't know what you're doing. And every chip is different. Duh
Would have been good to see a comparison of performance with different ram timings as well, to see if there's more gains to be had from low latency ram, or just outright ram clock speed, and where the best balance of those two is.
Yes memory timings video please!! I've been into building computers since 2013 and I've overclocked everything I can in all those computers except memory
I like Steve's videos for the granular data and info, I like Linus' videos for the wild tests and random content, I like Jay's videos for a mix of both worlds.
I like Kyles Videos for Kyle
@@Davorii Some people like Kyle's videos for Lyle
I don't like Kyle or Lyle.....
Really appreciate the large monitor. I can actually read benchmark number.
Super helpful jay. Learn a ton from your channel and I appreciate your time and effort. Would you be willing to make a video with intel (IFB Intel Fan Boy) and memory but include temperatures of the RAM with the MHZ changes? Much appreciated and you would make a dream come true.
Love it. I wonder if tweeking the ram timings will bring any significant improvements to the 3600mhz rams
Hey Jay love your vids!
I know in Ryzen Master I can individually set core speeds for my 2950x
Same for my 3600x
same with my 2600x
Same for my 3600
same
Same for a 3900x
Used your Microcenter link. Purchaced a laptop and stand. Liked the video. Commented. Been subbed for a bit. I think life's good right now :)
Like how you summed up the ending. Can you maybe make a series where you go over all of the words/terminology(specs), so that a noob can maybe understand what your saying. Love the channel.
Would love to see how well tuned b-die kit does vs typical docp settings
5-6 % overall performance improvement on tightly timed bdie, but 0% in some tasks and more than 10% in others, it's all over the place.
The IF matters more than me freq.
14-14-14-28-42 3733 vs 3200 DOCP CL14.
It made a huge difference for me in game FPS at least. Borderlands 3 ran about 20% faster.
Makes huge diff to minimums in some games. Like 20%+ in some. Averages in those same games only go up maybe 5% tho so people think it's not a big deal. Running samsung bdie 3600c16 at c14 with pretty much every timing tuned.
Hynix c die is just as good. I got 3200mhz cl16 hynix c die and it ocd to 3800 cl16. I saw my fps in modern warfare go from 130fps to 250fps was kind of insane and i didnt expect gains like that.
@@yoltsbp cjr is junk compared to samsung bdie it scales well frequency wise when you throw voltage at it but timing wise its mediocre at best. That being said samsung isn't worth the premium. I own hynix djr 3600c16 kit and samsung bdie 3600c16 kit.
@14:13 "I challenge anyone to say they can see a difference of 142FPS and 150FPS"
What about frame times, 1% lows, and 0.1% lows? That's where the real gain is.
Also, that's crossing back and forth across the 144 sync threshold on a 144 hz monitor, so it WILL be noticable, either stay over 144 or stay under it, but don't float back and forth, causes weird frame time inconsistency.
That's how I noticed my RAM OC didn't stick. MHWorld was stuttering like crazy!
This is what I would like to see is the 1% and 0.1% as that would seem to be where you would really notice the difference as if the RAM can't keep up fast enough with moving files as needed that can introduce stuttering.
I hate these stupid tests, lets test the RAM with CPU and GPU benchmarks :'( RAM tuning makes bigger differece with "lower end" CPUs, for the best experience (low latency) not equal with highest benchmark number, everybody should use 4 stick of dual ranked memory with the tightest timings. It's 16GB for DDR3 and 32GB for DDR4.
First of all they should test 3 type of CPU from AMD, because of the different layout of the chips, 3300X, 3600, 3950X.
Secondly, they sould test multi player games, I would say at least with 20 player on the map. (Only Steve from HW Unboxed do some multi player testing) Just launch Fortnite and you can see the difference in the lobby where 100 player present in a restricted area.
EDIT: here is an older benchmark on a Ryzen 1600 CPU czcams.com/video/JtVRs_Q1ngQ/video.html
@@tcclaviger Why would frame time inconsistency be problematic when the fps fluctuates between 130-150? Present an argument please, because you sound like you just heard and read from here and there that 'frame time inconsistency is baaad', ignoring the actual reason that causes it to be a bad thing.
A slight FPS boost is always nice, but the big difference I've seen/noticed when increasing RAM and FCLK was with **FRAME PACING** (frame times)
Meaning, it elliminated most of the stutters and inconsitencies that I got when my 3800x ran with default RAM and InfFab speeds.
The ration of MCLK to FCLK speed is/should actually always be 1:1 as DDR (double data rate) 3600Mhz means that it actually runs at 1800Mhz.
The reason why I mention this is because of overclocking the FCLK.
The maximum InfFab speed is 1867Mhz (DDR3733), past that it won't run 1:1 syncronous mode which will **hurt** performance.
Watched the vid, instructions unclear. Got stuck staring at your beautiful hairline.
Ed, go to sleep you re drunk
I will send my setup soon bro
Instructions unclear. Finger stuck in chassis.
Send help
CZcamsr with millions of subscriber didn't get even 100 likes what?
@WolraadWoltemade 1652 psst, it wasnt the "finger"...
A RAM timing video would be much appreciated, I've tried messing with it on my mobo and results have been mixed...
I need a Micro Center in FL!
I need it in New Jersey
Jk I have it in NJ
@@dexterous2513 Been meaning to go but they lack some item's I need so I'm supplementing it with newegg.com
I need one in Sydney Australia matching USD Prices in AUD
Need one in the UK, closest thing here to microcenter only sells a couple computers and mostly sells toasters and fridges
Regarding the F clock, it's nice to learn something new. Jay's explanation was spot on. Was a bit surprised that he wanted to do a CPU test and in the SOTTR tests turned everything up to max; I would have thought the opposite - having everything set as low as possible - would have been more beneficial for the relevance of the scores.
When it comes to my PC setup, when checking the mobo QVL list that my CPU supports, running DDR4 at 2933Mhz is as high as I can go before needing to use the DOCP.
As I have 2400Mhz installed (new BIOS updates have improved the base line memory stock performance since building said system) I would imagine the upgrade to higher speed RAM would only gain around 5 to 8 percent performance in games, I'm not sure it's worth the £70 cost.
x86 memory addressing was always awful and all of these are just work-arounds to the core problem: X86 was never meant to have this much RAM. You can tweak your ram till the cows come home--and you're right--the speed increase isn't remotely tied to cost nor is it worth it--especially for non ECC UDIMM.
Love all the vids, keep it up brother!
Just to clarify the bit about the FCLK (Infinity Fabric clock) at 8:26 and 12:04 - you do NOT want to run FCLK at half the speed of the memory, you want to run it at the same speed as the memory (1:1 ratio). Keep in mind the effective clock speed of DDR memory will always be double the memory clock speed shown in BIOS because it is double data rate. Just bringing this up so people won't go and set their FCLK at 1:2 by accident for 3600 speed or lower. So, like Jay says at 11:53, this is why the general consensus is that 3600 speed memory is the sweet spot for Ryzen. Most (if not all) Ryzen CPUs will do 1800 MHz FCLK for a 1:1 ratio with DDR4-3600 memory. As to 14:29 - you absolutely can run 4200 memory if you want on Ryzen without any additional effort (assuming XMP/DOCP for your memory kit works at that speed on your motherboard without additional tweaking) but you would probably be looking at setting FCLK to 1050 MHz in 1:2 ratio and lose some or all of the performance difference. And it costs a lot more, so probably not worth it.
thanks jay this helps me a lot with my parts selection for my ryzen build im switching over to ryzen from intel for my next build
come to the dark side my friend !
@@camerongrieve5521 ikr im late to the party
I switched back to Intel and I feel good about myself. Ryzen was not for me.
Veni Vidi Vici ryzen isn’t for me but yet I keep buying it. Not sure tbh
@@venividivici4253 same here, tried an amd build a few weeks back.. nothing but problems, drivers were playing up, heat and performance issues and random black screens.. even got abused on one of the amd forums because i sent it all back and went intel/nvidia.. no regrets, plug and play with 0 issues on the intel build. i feel like amd are a bit new to the party and kinks are not ironed out properly yet.. or they just suck.. ill go with the first option for now lol
I took some cheap corsair dom 3200mhz 16-18-18 up to 3600mhz 18-19-19 and my score went up a lot . My fps in games also noticeably up. I feel frequency/infinity fabric boost is more noticeable than when I did 3200mhz with tighter timings. X570 3600 cpu
Cool thank you for confirming the CL16 @3600 I was planning to buy seems to be the best bet for the ryzen 9
Love this 6:37
When you try so hard to say something. It happens to all of us
When I started doing memory overclocking on my b350 board, if I locked it up with bad settings I had to remove the memory completely, clear the CMOS, boot it without the memory in the slots, then turn it off and reinstall the memory, then it would boot with default memory settings.
Love the 386 startup sound used from Strongbad's Emails ;)
It’s a dot net.
I think you just did an underpants gnome reference at the end there....I approve \o/
0:44 "Was" known? It still "is" known!!!
Amd ryzen master, you can specifically target cores to overclock, I oc 2 of my cores to 4.4 and the other 4 at 4.3 on my 3600. It's fun to mess with too.
What voltage do you set?
Anywhere around 1.4375 to 1.4875
But the main oc that I set is a 4.375 overclock on all cores and I have the volts set to 1.4375
It was able to run cinebench r20 3 times in a row with no problems
That's weird, I am running a 4.3 Ghz all core oc using ryzen master at 1.225V , anything above 1.3V makes my processor heat up like crazy in prime 95. Have you ever run prime95 for stress testing or just cinebench?
I dont even know what you're talking about or even afford anything above your workbench, i still enjoy listening to your videos. Good stuff!
Hi Jay loved the vid and I have a quick question: do ram speeds have a similar result for rendering applications (blender, daz etc)?
I learned so much about ram speeds this was excellent
Please do a timing video :)
the amount of work you put in these videos is inspiring, THANK YOU
Maybe 🤔🤔 the effects of different power supplies on the Overclocked stability would make a good video 😁👍
I have my Ryzen 3900 memory at 3800 and fabric at 1900 with timings tightened. It’s very stable and never had it BSOD 😁👍 I believe it’s because of my power supply which is a Corsair AX860i digital power supply. It used this power supply to run an old intel quad core duo overclocked from 2.6Ghz to 3.4Ghz which was fully stable.
Timings don't matter
AHOC fans: What
As some one who watches AHOC as well I have to agree, plus Cinebench is not memory sensitive and is a good example of why memory speed can and should be tuned speed wise more for your workloads as you can save money on your RAM that way. Plus 3200 is actually a JDEC spec so you can find kits that do it out of the box with out setting XMP at least when dealing with Ryzen not sure on Intel as they have not been where I've been paying attention as I'm a core heavy user. Just ask my poor Ryzen 5 3600 that has seen more full core loading than most of them will see :D
AOC fans: RACIST!
@@justjoeblow420 i dont think a single kit sold so far has a 3200 JEDEC profile yet. Kits only recently started shipping with 2400 and 2666 JEDEC profiles...
Anything above that is 99% XMP profiles.
@@TheHavocInferno I've definitely seen one, not for sale, but they exist. I think it was a kit of ECC server memory.
This is to vague to compare to something from AHOC.
Jayz: hundred perceet..
Also jayz: hundred perspent...
Ill never forget the time my girlfriends friend was setting up a cellphone for us I said "please dont hit my credit a million times", her response was "dont worry, Im a ferpessional"
3800 C14 Fclock 1900 is very much doable on some CPUs. Most can do 3733/1866. Custom timings also make a big deal on 1% lows even more than outright FPS.
I definitely want to see a timing video. Maybe take 3600Mhz since that was your recommendation and test various timings on that. I have long held the view that getting a lower timing on memory was better than squeezing out a few hundred Mhz on the clock speed. I would like to see how that assumption holds up since that ultimately comes from dated information.
People: Arguing about RAM speed performance
Me, an intellectual: Download more memory to get the extra performance
fell off my dinosaur last time i heard this joke
ofc
I downloaded so much memory COX throttled my neighborhood
how do i download internet, so i can download ram?? Help
@@r21174 you know you have to download the computer then the monitor then the wifi so you can download more ram 😀
Oh hey someone actually recommended what I did. Got 3600MHz CL16 RAM for $70 for my 3600.
Me too Buddy
thats what everyone knows, jays late to this party by months...
I wouldn't say 3600 is a 'sweet spot' at all. It is for Ryzen 3000 if you don't manually OC your FCLK cuz it maxes out at 1800mhz by default.
That said 3600 cl16 is a great kit of memory for out of the box XMP/DOCP. There's a lot of 3600 CL 18 kits out there which is technically slower than 3200 CL15
Put 3200mhz in my x570 with ryzen 3600. XMP was loose cl16. I manually changed it to 3600mhz tight cl18. Boost was easily measurable across the board. Highly recommend 3600mhz
do this type of content ! :))) it's very helpful
Ram speed + tighter timings really help APUs, would be nice if we saw APU comparisons with ram speed + tighter vs d.o.c.p/xmp + loose timings.
I want you to do a montage of the guy in the background laughing. Im sorry I dont know his name, im REAL bad with names. But he is hilarious.
i do believe that ryzen master gives you the option to per core settings.
yep
this
Buildzoid did testing on this last year I think. Best I can remember, the sweet spot was 3600 MHz / 3766 MHz / 3800 MHz (can't recall which) with the IF overclocked to 1900 MHz. Since I wanted dual-channel and 32 GB, and the daisy chain controller, I got the Trident Z Neo 2x16 GB 3600 MHz CL16 kit, and I haven't had issues. But then I haven't messed with manual memory timings or the IF, I've just rolled the XMP.
Thanks Jay I just got the ryzen 7 3700x and 16g kit Trident neo 3600mhz will do just that when I complete my build
I've spent an average of 35 percent of my income at Microcenter since 2014
Only 35? You have will power!
Dude that’s housing level spending. 😮
Never stepped foot in microcenter, and never ordered from them online either.
Wh-How? You make minimum wage and spend $8k a year?
Damn son!! 35% would be right around 18000 of my annual income. I take it you're not only buying PC components?
The way he said Perspent so confidently makes me die from laughter
Perspent is the percentage performance you gain for the percentage money spent.
Spend $500 and get 500 performance points
Spend $1000 and get 1100 performance points
This gives it a +10 Perspent value.
Magnus Nilsson I feel enlightened
Thanks Jay. Took my 3700x system from 4947 to 5010 in cinebench R20.
Been running a Ryzen 3600 X with fclock @ 1800 MHz on 3600 ddr4 Viper cl14 & core enhancement Since January 2020, a week after I built it. Good to know it already doing the best.
I like the fart sound at the end. Nice touch.
It’s fitting. Jay is prone to making dad jokes, and dads fart a lot. As a dad, I know this to be true.
@Narendra Lau WTF LOL
thank you for mentioning this I checked my ram speed and it was 2666 instead of the 3200 it should've been
A video highlighting the DRAM Calculator for Ryzen would be really cool Jay. Easily got my 2666 set up to 3000 in a few minutes and its super simple.
So is the Dram Calculator pretty accurate?
@jayzTwoCentz your comments about Ryzen command rate helped me get my XMP profile to work properly on my 3600mhz memory. I'd been messing with Fclock turning it down and other ideas i got from this trying to get it to run at the rated 3600mhz profile and the only things I changed from default were some stuff with the bus termination and the command rate (set to 2T) and my 4x8gb of 3600mhz CJR dies stuff from Gskill works as advertised now with everything else left on auto. I've been banging my head against a wall with this for weeks. I have 2 other rigs it still only will hit 3000mhz in using my old stable profile because they don't seem to like this one (both rigs have the same model of a different board from gigabyte for x570), but at least the one I use the most and for gaming where it seems to matter is running as advertised now
You're 100 perspent my favourite channel 🤣🤣
Percent*
Stupid auto correct 😡😤😠😤😡
Jkjk ik he said perspent
I swear I'm having deja vu. Haven't we done this exact video at least once in the past??
I think Linus and GN have done this before, I had the same feeling of Deja' Vu.
No not the specifics of this one but yes, a very similar one was uploaded before
Looking back at his uploads what I think it might be is the fact that he's uploaded like 3-4 videos in the past year with "ram speed effecting gaming" in his titles.. I guess they weren't specifically about ryzen but I'm pretty sure his test bench is ryzen now anyways lol
Feels like I've seen at least two before this one this last year.
@1Me I didn't know jay charged for anything or that I was buying anything.
Very interesting! Thanks!
Anecdotally, tightening timings on my Ryzen 1600 with Corsair 3200 CL16 (using the dram calc) -- bumped firestrike physics score up by 200 points. Nothing drastic, but I think I'm better friends with my memory now.
JaysTwoCents : Blinks
Cameraman: Dies from laughter.
Phil*
Phil, his name is Phil
Phil's laugh cracks me up everytime. This is the funniest tech channel imo
Yeah I can agree here
Complete opposite for me. Not entertaining and annoying as its becoming more prevalent. As well as focussing on Jay's stutters over words...
Definitely is
More videos with Phil!
Indeed.
I would like to see a new test with the new Ryzen 5000. The fps improvement for faster RAM should be higher, since the clock speed of zen 3 is higher as well I think? Also need a new gaming rig and kind of confused on which RAM to by. But speed should matter since with their new gpu in combination to access the faster DDR6 graphic memory they also boost performances, or am I mistaken?
Thanks Jay. This will help me select ram for the build I’m doing. Now that the XT variants were announced, should I wait to buy that or pick up the 3600 at its price now? I would like to get the XT variant if price is similar.
Jay struggling just to say PERCENT is the best thing ever, and Phil's laugh makes it even funnier 😂
Does fake laughs make me cringe!
"AMD Ryzen Master" let's you set speeds for individual cores.
I know it's an older video, but glad I found it. I was considering upgrading to faster ram to see if there's a difference, but it seems it would be an insignificant improvement, so I'll just stick with my 3200 (4x8gb) setup. Was mostly looking bc DDR4 is so cheap now 😅
I have learned a lot from your channal Jayz.
You are really good.
What about 1% lows. In my experience, that's where the faster RAM makes a difference.
It's the exact opposite. Faster RAM raises your avg fps because it removes some throughput bottlenecking from the top % of your fps where your CPU load is minimal. For example looking mostly at a skybox in a game will see your fps dramatically increase as the CPU is allowed to run free, and with faster RAM you will get higher fps there. However, when then CPU itself is under a heavy load (as Jay showed with Cinebench) the effect of RAM speed becomes negligible as the bottleneck moves to compute instead of throughput. That is to say - if you only want a stable fps (e.g. you're capping it somehow for G-sync or Freesync), RAM speed has very little effect on your experience.
me: goes to parts picker.com and watches the cost of 3600mhz ram double for the next 6 months.
I found at Amazon that they got 2x8 3600 for 80 bucks Corsair something
I am still seeing a lot of 3200mhz 8x2 sticks on sale for around $60 -- G-Skill, Crucial, etc. Just sign up for newsletters from etailers and you will be notified when parts go on sale. I doubt DDR4 will see a big price increase when they need to clear stock for DDR5 in 2021.
linus did same video awhile back and nothing happened with prices so doubt they will now unless stock runs out.. and seeing as all the MOBOs are gone unless u buy the highend ones they may be next on the list. I did however upgrade from 16g 2933 tridents to 32g of 3600 after they went on sale
You can just buy 3200 mhz CL 16 DRAM and overclock it to 3600 with minimal effort like mentioned.
I don't know about you but ordering multiples of twin packet sticks (ie x2 packs of two sticks/pkt for 16GB DDR4 @3600MHz) saves a coupla hundred, compared to 4-pack 'matched' ram. Its much like Crossfire and SLI to me. The bet I make is to stack twin stick packs in the A1 B1 +A2 B2 dimm slot order so the electronic abstraction sees each matched ram pair in their own channel (if I have that right).
**Can't wait to finish my build: now 64GB of 3600MHz ddr4 richer, just arrived. G.Skill Ripjaws V Black, in a Black Corsair Crystal 280X mATX case with its glass top pane sitting on stacked nylon washers and the grommets upside down for extra standoff height, main glass side panel grommets reversed to set panel flush against case, front panel dust filter removed. I have an MSI Radeon RX 5700XT Mech otw (this model is only 232mm long). Almost everything going on inside my case is black, except the brushed aluminium heatsinks of the Asrock X570M Pro4 mobo, and its white printed stuff, and the Ryzen 9 IHS. Not a fan of pretty lights. I might custom build a puppet theatre stage curtain-esque drape to the glass side panel .. I'll think it over.
February 22, 2020 i run my Ryzen 7 3700x Plus Msi x570 atx + Rtx 2060 8gb Super & 32gb 3000 Ram with Xmp On = Rock -N- Roll 👾 Zero issues 6 months later 🤘🏽 Thanx for Posting 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
thanks dude! i have a 3700 locked at 4.2ghz but never really payed attention to the single core boost that can actually boost more than 4.2
It’s 3 am I’m dying but I still love ur work
Same he makes me moisty
You dying? Call an ambulance dude... seen too much on the internet lately..
Same here
@@albertsang5428 u want me to do u
U Wana join in to do the do
Thank you for stating what every other youtuber said 6 months ago
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Upgraded my system a couple of months ago. Running a 3700x, 2070SUPER OC and originally 3200mhz ram. Performed awesome but after hearing comments from the various pc hardware content creators about the 3600 'sweet spot' I thought why not try it. What a difference! Benchmarks were noticeably improved across the board. Glad you did this vid to basically 'prove the point' but yeh.. it's 100% true
Thanks! This video was actually helpful. Don't get it wrong, lot of your videos are helpful/informative (or, at least, entertaining ;)), but I am currently planning a new AMD build and was not sure about reusing my old RAM.
0:04 uh oh, I think his computer got a flagrant system error
Computer over? Virus = very yes? That's not a good prize!
Came into the comments to see if anyone else got the reference. Am not disappointed.
When’s the next jayztwocars coming out been really missing it.
Jay, you can make a chiplet OC and that way set the individual cores to different speeds. Also play with NUMA modes.
It would have been nice if you tried with another gpus as LTT did some time ago, cause I think it's a bit more useful for people to see the difference since not everyone affords a 2080ti. Though if you have a 3950x you probably have a really expensive gpu to accompany it. If I'm not wrong, you see little to no difference between frequencies in more mainstream gpus such as rx 580-590 or Gtx 1650, 1660 etc.
Anyway, good video! I thinks it still provides and interesting insight into how high speed rams work in windows 95...
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Jay:"quid pro quo!"
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illidan: fear the burning legion"
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0:08 well, microcenter doesn't have nothing right now. They have 0 motherboards, 0 decent budget ryzen cpu's (3200g, 1600af, even 2600).
It depends on where you are. Mayfield Heights, OH has a BUNCH of motherboards, not sure about the budget CPUs, though.
The main issue I'm seeing GLOBALLY would be power supplies. I can't find a single decent 650W+ Gold that isn't price gouged to fucking smithereens.
1600af is discontinued, 3200g is a quad core with apu, 2600 is meh. Get a 3300x.
Ryzen 3 3200G is probably the most overrated CPU I have seen. It costs as much as Ryzen 5 1600, but is MUCH worse. Not only in game performance, 1600 is 6c 12t CPU which gives you better framerate on lower usage.
I would say the best budget CPUs are Ryzen 5 1600, 1600af, 2600, Ryzen 3 3100x. Eventually I3 9100F
@@MrDutch1e 3300x is basically non existent right now, can't get em anywhere! I had this planned on a custom build and had to bite the bullet on 3600xt because it was all they had in newer amd cpus with relative or better performance, although of course, way less price/performance value for me sadly which is probably why it was available! 😂
06:40 that right there is the reason i love this channel so much XD
Please do a video about timings on ryzen as well. Becasue some people say you can get hella better performance with that.
Oh I forgot. Great video Jay. :)
Did he do the video if he did can u please tag me in it lol.. I am also hearing the same thing on timings.