Stop wasting money on fast Ram!! 7200MHz vs 4800MHz...
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- čas přidán 20. 02. 2024
- People always ask me if fast ram is worth it for gaming... well today we test the fastest set of DDR5 I have vs the stock DDR5 non XMP settings in 3 resolutions to see if there is any performance gain!
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1% and 0.1% lows are absent in ram tests. Thanks Jay :)
Does ryzen still like fast ram??
@@jonfish490 Their apus greatly benefits faster rams.
@@jonfish490yes all except x3d
No even x3D needs decent ram, it just has less impact.@@Frozoken
This is the realest comment on
CZcams. Thanks for knowing your stuff, op.
I'd like to say under this epic comment:
Hey, where's the mention of single versus dual rank memory? What about Hynix A versus Hynix M? And what about primary, secondary, and tertiary timings? Let's not forget about channel configuration and its impact on performance. Oh, and motherboards play a crucial role, too. We can't ignore bus latency and first word latency either. And did I mention that faster RAM can fix texture chokes in 1 percent lows, not just average or maximum FPS? We need to be more clear and thorough in our writing to truly inform builders. Isn't that your motto? Also, I'm guessing your DDR5 OC experience is limited, and I can't blame you as it's quite the dive, but you certainly are not making valid comparisons or observations here. I have noted up to 30 percent increases in 1 percent lows over multiple brands, timings, and configurations. That is huge for dips.
definitely do the comparison with ddr4 and ddr5. most people are still on ddr4
The main issue at the moment with DDR5, is not so much the cost of the ram, but the need for a new motherboard and a new CPU. Sadly, DDR5 motherboards aren't backwards compatible, nor are a lot of intel CPUs. So, keep that in mind of you want to change the protocol.
@@paisiosbstrike9262there are a handful of boards that take both types...not sure if those boards work as well with ddr4 vs a ddr4 only board or ddr5 only board......
Hardware unboxed did ddr4 vs ddr5
You cant do that because they do use different mobo and CPU.
1080p gaming it a boost, but for 4k gaming it's negligible per most tests I've seen.
Maybe for the next video you could keep one set of fast ram with good timings and just change the Frequency in the BIOS. That way we would know if the differences were down to frequency or timings. You could then compare 3 sticks at the same speed (e.g. 6000MHz) with different timings (CL30, CL 34 and CL 40) and see what difference THAT makes. Thanks for the video
Latency was always more important than throughput. Real latenvcy expressed in nano seconds NOT cycles.
I'm not sure Jay understands Ddr5 yet. This is exactly why we see this video being so lackluster. Hopefully, he will put the time in like we have.
I think he is bored tbh.
I probably have 3 months of time in bios alone learning ddr5 optimization lol, and I'm just just barely getting a grip on ddr5 and new IMCs in general. I may be slow, but I doubt he will take it that far, sadly.
Likely, we will just see more reptile brain activating click bait crowd appeasement style videos instead of real science.
At best, maybe a half-baked science video that attempts to rug sweep this video that is still just more of the same reptile brain mass appeal, only with a fresh coat of frosting.
He is making money. And that. Akes me happy for him but that whole educating builders motto is slowly vanishing and being replaced by click bait.... I hope he can return to the Jay we all know and love, humble yet thorough in a funny way... Again, I think he is just bored with it all.
@@oggiewalt6350 As one who is finally building a new system after a _decade_ (Feb 2014 build: Win 7, 4770K + GTX 770 --> 980 Ti ---> 2080 Ti), I can understand why a person would be bored. The PC hardware/building situation has.... degenerated significantly, with pricing only one of the problems (though probably the largest), and this is coexistent with the very real degradation of AAA video games in general.
I've had this notion that this is a big reason for why many people have veered down the route of "Pimp My -Ride- System", where a big focus is on hardware aesthetics --- even the interior of the case. I almost can't blame someone for thinking that his PC is more exciting than the game it's rendering.
It is not 6000 MHz. It is 6000 MT/s. It is dual data rate memory. The real clock is 3000 MHz.
@@Breakfast_of_Champions RAM Latency = CAS Latency × 2000 / Transfer Rate - This way you will find the high transfer rate modules have same or lower latency as some "low" transfer rate modules with smaller CAS.
really? no 1% lows? im baffled you left out THE most imporatnt reason to go with faster memory.
Faster, or lower latency?
Also, would it improve 0.1% lows even more?
@@bricaaron3978 it should make the frame times more consistent.
@@bricaaron3978I can confirm it does, and by A LOT. It makes sense too, the faster your CPU can grab data from the cache (RAM) to compose the frame and send it off to the GPU, the less “stutters” you’ll see since the threads aren’t having to wait for the RAM to deliver the required assets, which means your 1% and 0.1% lows will be higher. Jayz sorta dropped the ball with this one, hate to say it
DDR4 comparison greatly needed for me
They won't do that lol, it would turn out that a DDR4 3200mhz will perform the same as 4800mhz ddr5 lol. The sponsors who pay this dude wouldnt want to let people know that :)
@@sisqobmx You're clearly new to the channel, right?
No complaints on my 3200's best memory i can afford
Especially 3600MHz CL16 (I have that one - TridentZ Neo) vs CL18 vs 7200MHz CL34
Yeah, my ddr4 4100cl15 manual tuned is still just as fast as ddr5. Ddr5 is not worth the move till the hits 10000mhz
i can feel Buildzoid's heavy breathing on this video
hahaha
who in the world is that?
who
Buildzoid is the most well known RAM overclocker on CZcams.
Edit: his channel name is:
Actually Hardcore Overclocking
@@Dan-Simms Ahh ok now i get it lol.
Would have loved to see this for AMD systems as well, X3D and non-X3D to see how much the cache can negate the impact of ram speeds (if any).
Yep, super curious to see if it's any different with AMD's CPUs
There is a difference and even X3D's need atleast decent RAM, as the Cache doesnt always grip and even if he does, he cant negate everything, its just 96MB...so having DDR5 6000CL30 on AM5(its the actual sweetspot) even with an 7800X3D is pretty much a must have for certain games and also workloads, as videoediting for example does sometime greatly profit from fast RAM.
I on my end am glad that i had the DDR4 3600CL16 from my Ryzen 3700X setup when i upgraded to the 5800X3D. :)
@@wolfwilkopter2231 I wouldn’t say must have for 6000 CL30 tuned memory on X3D but that’s a difference yes. For non X3D yeah it’s must have but I’m not sure why you’d have a setup like that tbh.
Make that another for AMD. I feel anecdotally that my overall performance noticably increased when I upgraded my ram speed on my 7900x
Actually AM5 can use slower RAM better than intel. While Intel always runs DDR5 regardless of speed in UCLK = 0.5 MCLK (DIV2 mode), AM5 can run up to 6200 MT/s in UCLK = MCLK (DIV1 mode) then it automatically goes into DIV2 mode, so going with insane high speeds on AM5 is not worth it that much as UCLK clock divider kicks in.
I pretty much always buy higher clocked ram because I typically lower the clock speed and overclock the timings with the extra headroom I get instead, I had very good results with this
I have never thought of RAM as a part of my system that significantly increases FPS. I've always thought of it in terms of gameplay smoothness i.e. 1% lows and 0.1% lows. THAT'S where higher clocked RAM shows it's value.
This has always been my understanding as well. Please Jay do another one with % lows!
Jay isn't keeping up with times. People cared about average fps 10 years ago. In 2024 its about lows and latency.
And what about timings and latency?
Yes Jay... do a DDR4 speed test too and tell me what mouse are you using in the video? I like those headlights...
I think it's one of the EVGAs mouse.
corsair ironclaw has such ones
also maybe add system total latency between click and response higher latency can feel like you have more input lag
99% Corsair Sabre Pro RGB
the 4800 was stable JDEC. Gotta stress test those XMP sticks cause they're probably erroring on stock voltages. Also, the faster RAM is most beneficial for 1% lows.
Yes, do a DDR4 vss DDR5 test, possibly fast vs slow.
This same test run on an RTX 3070 also could show something (8GB GDDR)
A test on Star Citizen could also be very interesting as that game is a HOG for ram and CPUs
Upgrade from 4800Mhz to 6400Mhz was a massive upgrade for my performance in actual fps in games.
There's just no way that 7200 was stable. Potentially not even the 6400 - although maybe that one was just running with terrible auto timings or switching to gear 4 without you noticing.
This isn't consistent AT ALL with any previously done DDR4 OR DDR5 testing by other people and you should've really been aware of that before posting false information. At least talk to some other creators if your findings are so far off everyone else's
Hey jay, did you get good news or something? You're glowing. Love seeing that.
Yes please do the DDR4 video 🙏
Thanx for the video, nice information.
It's not a confirmation of anything but poor testing.
1% lows w/ higher speed room absolutely destroys lower speed ram. That's before we even get to tuned timings on higher speed ram.
This was an L video by Jay, unfortunately. Click bait 100%.
He literally put a factory certified silicone lottery winner against a knowingly worse rated kit...
It is better silicone, also on lower clocks...
He should have done the tests with ONLY that one kit on his targetted timings and clocks, to keep ANY kind of consistency...
But in the end I would never recommend anything beyond 6000/6400 CL36 personally (tRAS BELOW 100!).
I totally agree on this.
@@danielasklund7188
I just checked for the kit tested and TeamGroup has no 6400cl38 kit... so he most likely forced a cl40 to do cl38, since the far more expensive cl30/32 kits would have specced better while dialed down to CL38... since those are TeamGroups silicone lottery winners...
Before he discloses subtimings etc. this is an opinion article and no "test"...
Just like his trash opinion about gold+ rating on PSUs would deem their quality (checked out with Gigabyte gold rated PSUs blowing up and DOA)
This type of video should be based on 1%lows 0%lows
Also cas latency timings should of been included
As you said, this is about gaming performance. I recently switched from running DDR5-5600 to DDR5-8000 and for productivity/general tasks, it does make a noticeable and measurable difference. This is especially down to latency. Also interesting is that the gain I got from frequency (running XMP profile) was doubled when I tuned the timings. So RAM tuning (watch Buildzoid’s videos for this) is actually worth-wile.
Dont kid yourself the difference will not be noticeable to the human eye
OH, I get it. @@michaellandon8901 is one of those 'the eye can not see more than 60 FPS anyway' guys :D
@@michaellandon8901 it is. But you're probably talking about gaming, and I'm not.
Kidding yourself
If it gives a measurable difference what's the measure?
so literally no latency tests at all
Why do you need a latency test? You will never feel the difference between 77.5ns and 55.2ns
@user-zz9sv9fp3c Sarcasm...I hope... It sounds like you misunderstand where the extra latency happens and how many times that "doesn't matter" happens per second.
@@oggiewalt6350 Once again - the memory latency has no meaning. you will never see or feel it. The only case when in real conditions of use you can feel the memory - its physical lack, when the operating system begins to use not the overflowing memory, but the disk.
@@user-zz9sv9fp3c lover timing can help get more fps then higher MHz with high timing
@@robinenbernhard and?
Please do a ddr4 comparison as you mentioned. Thank you for the video!
Comparing a GPU Ray Tracing benchmark to test Ram Speed differences... LOL
How much difference to the results with a lesser system, something like a ryzen 7600 and a 3060?
hey, is it ok if my core clock is 2559MHz (my gpu is rx 6600) i downloaded msi afterburner it was like that i didnt changed anything
Great video and greetings from Canada.
As someone who hasn’t built a computer in long time I have a question for you so I’m not wasting money trying to upgrade an old computer. I only do flight simulation on my old computer (ASUS Prime B350, GTX 1080, Ryzen 7 1300, 32 GB DDR 4 3000 C16, WD Black SN850X 2TB, Corsair 750w power supply, triple 20 inch 1024 monitors). This computer runs FSX maxed out no problem, but I would like to play MSFS 2020 and this computer barely meets the minimum requirements, it will run, but I would like to run at much higher settings. I was thinking Ryzen 7 5700 and RTX 4070 ti or 4070 super, but is this overkill for the current motherboard. Should I be thinking new motherboard, CPU, GPU and better DDR4? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I was also thinking of switching out the triple display setup for a 32 inch 1440p monitor I already own.
Jay, you shouldn’t be using AI OC in this scenario. You absolutely cannot guarantee that the OC would be the same as you swap from one ram kit to another. That’s a variable in your benchmarks that needs to be avoided by principle, big or small.
So much went wrong here lol. Idk why he hasn't taken this video down yet😅😂
I don't really understand what's going on here. If the idea is to show what's the average use case of people turning on XMP and ignore everything, then sure. Otherwise... weird results. Motherboard is not specified, we don't know if all the configurations have been tested for stability (XMP is not granted to work)
What if I want to build an ultimate workstation just for work, I dont game but I use alot of so heavy software and I use alot of Excel. I plan on using the XMP profile and use the virtual machine options and on use the intel 14th gen I9 cpu with a good GPU not intel because I have like 5 screens. Should I still invest in 4 x 32gb high mhz ? with the motherboard that can take it or wait the ddr6 comes out, so they get cheaper, or just get cheaper ram ? Thanks
Hi Jay, love your channel. I'd actually love to see ddr4 test. Mostly game and recently switched from 64GB of 4000 to 128GB of 3600 curious if theres any noticeable changes there
The more and more I learn about PC hardware and gaming, the less and less I trust Jay...
Why
@@visitante-pc5zc This stuff is all wrong. He tested a GPU bound benchmark
His channel is aimed at people new to building with more money than sense.
That's why he has 4M subs and only 100-200K views per video.
@@stevewoodyt really hope he sees this… sad to see
Did not compare load times, modding and mod loading, performance when multitasking, ram load and unloading speed. Amazing benchmark about ram, congrats!
he has lot of subscribers so everything he says must be 100% fact!
hi there, first i appreciate your hard work and thanks for this result. (i have gone through several comments and find out none have pointed this thing or i might have missed it)
though i think you have done the testing in a bit wrong way because rather playing only one game and not using any other things on background definitely won't bring the proper results.
it would be much appreciated if 2x game have been running together to get the result or having some heavy software running on the background like for streaming or video editing.
more games like world of warcraft, Path of exiles etc would give more accurate result with having some sort of software running on the background which mention earlier.
It's good to see a base test to show the potential diminishing returns with higher clocked memory. I think I would have liked to see multiple runs, and maybe since there are 3 different speeds and also a couple of different memory brands, I think it would have possibly uncovered more potentially interesting results had the tests been done with 3 speeds for each of 2 or 3 different brands (ie 3 speeds of corsair vengeance, 3 speeds of gskill trident, etc). Would have been cool to compare the same speeds from different brands as well as the different speeds.
Jay, if you could explain what CAS latency and timings and such are and what that all means that would be greatly appreciated. Great vid! Do the DDR4 one now, yes please! :)
It gets pointlessly technical... the tl;dr is that the lower they are, usually the better, BUT ... this video shows how "massive" differences in speed/bandwidth (up to +50%) AND timings/latency (~ up to -25%) show none to random effects on gaming performance... so there is even less point in minor tweaks to timings.
The flip side is that tracing memory errors is the most random, intermittent, and difficult to trace error in overclocked PC components, I don't chase hwbot points anymore so I just don't bother.
Man, this was already tested by Hardware Unboxed like a year ago. And their result was that Intel processors are actually more sensitive to the RAM frequency but not much sensitive to the timings BUT Ryzen 7000 processors are not that sensitive to the frequency, as they cannot benefit much from DDR5 faster than 6000MHz but they benefit from low timings and not only from the low Primary timings but especially from the Secondary timings when tuned as low as possible that makes a huge difference in performance!!
Do you have a source I can learn these timing tweaks? :)
Test@@UKNamaste
Good info. Question: What about timings? Is a slightly better timing at same clock a notable performance improvement?
With this big as screen I would not have been surprised if jay suddenly started talking about the weather.
If you ever had any soft of incling that Jay has no idea what he's just done to himself, just watch this video.
I am convinced Jay doesn't play video games at home or he has his monitor set to 60hz and didn't realize you can change it in control panel
Love these types of videos! I always budget for max performance per dollar and this analysis made it easy for me. Thanks!
Please do ddr4 and ddr5 ram comparisons... most average consumer are still on ddr4.. Thanks a bunch! will wait for it!
He says this...but I bet his PC has 7200mhz of ram speed lol
100%
You mean 7200 MT/S. There is no ddr5 7200 mhz ram yet that would be ddr 5 14400 ram
Jay please re do tho video showing 1% lows and ,0.1% lows, this video is not accurate, what about the timings? Jay please do better next time maybe more actual gaming benchmarks show more evidence in your findings
Yes, pls to a ddr4 vs ddr5 comparison! Thank you!
I needed the questioned answered so badly
Just a few points here:
Would be good to include the CAS Latency in the charts and ,preferably to even that, the first word latency.
I'm not surprised it's made very little difference in performance changing to faster RAM. I ran a few benchmarks last time I went from 3600CL18 to 3600CL16 (running at 3770CL15 or something similar).
It makes zero difference in gaming. Actually few FPS lower in some titles. But the change it made to video and photo editing in Photoshop and Davinci Resolve was easily noticeable and confirmed with a huge difference in benchmark scores.
So I made sure I went to 6000CL30 when I went to AM5. Latency over speed but save your money if you're just gaming.
It makes a difference in gaming, it just depends on the type of game you play and how much or how hard the RAM usage and the communication back to the CPU/GPU is, especially in the lows, but also in general, even with X3D CPUs, just not as much as with the normal ones.
Your descision to go with 6000CL30 was wise as this is the exact sweetspot for AM5 right now, as was DDR4 3600 CL16 or faster for AM4 and Ryzen 3000for example.
Did you validate it was stable? Errors can cause performance degradation.
yeaa, unsubscribe for spreading misinformation
i did a bios update (b550 tomahawk) & went from an oc of 3600 to xmp 3200 (ddr4 fury) i couldn't see an difference in butter smooth doom eternal except map location changes ie small saves small loads - was my ram oc worth it?
@JayzTwo Cents - I'm curious to know if you could use Radeon RAM Disk and create some 16 Gb Ram disks and then do some benchmarks. What, if anything, will you gain performance wise?
Sorry Jay, but you are wrong, or incomplete at best. You are clearly making some assumptions here. You are aware that not everyone plays FPS games, right? It is anecdotal, but I remember a thread in the ONI (Oxygen not Included) reddit where it was clear that ONI processes its cycles (in-game days) much faster with faster RAM. This is because that is a super memory-heavy process. Early game, no one notices. By the time you are at cycle 1000 and the game needs to process the results of multiple planetoids, the faster RAM will make a difference. As this happens every few minutes, shaving 3-4 seconds off a 20 seconds process makes a huge difference. Having nearly 4000 hours in this game, faster RAM has surely saved me a few hours. :) There are other things factoring in, but here fast RAM makes a difference. Good that you checked this, but you need to consider the use case.
Dude used a GPU benchmark to prove his statement about ram... no a single real life scenario, showed 4 games from which all 4 are absolutely irrelevant..
Hi, I was wondering, as I can recall, so far your comments are in assumptions that one uses graphic card.
Now, what if I am using IGPU, will fater ram help? Significantly?
this is such bad information. Ram matters in many games. At 1440p with a 4090/14900k you'll see 20%+ 0.1% lows improvements in many games.
No way is jdec faster in any test, unless you're unstable on your faster kits.
Did you validate your 7200mhz using kahru/y-cruncher? If the ram is unstable then the conclusion for your video is completely false. It should be something closer to "avoid fast ram if you want plug and play".
100% this, his faster kit was unstable, probably also the reason that he doesnt show 1%.
Please delete this video, it's so full of misinformation. The difference between a stable 7200 MHz and 4800 MHz is like 25% performance.
Jay/ I have a good question. Is it worth it to upgrade to DDR5 from DDR4? Don't know if you have done a video about that yet or not. But I think that would be a good topic for another video if you haven't. Or expand on the one you already did.
Such video exists, "Should you upgrade to DDR5?", found it simply by putting "jay ddr4 vs ddr5" on search.
Whether it's worth the switch, depends on what you would need DDR5 for, and whether your budget also allows a new motherboard and CPU to go with it. What's new about DDR5 has not changed since the release of that video.
How about game with massive processing calculation like city builder, or even program like 3d rendering that depend on processor also, or winzip compression?
Does high speed ram help?
just like that all the credibility Jay ever had as a tech Tuber is now gone. No 1% lows. no 0.1% lows. (1%+0.1% is the REAL frame-rate of your game, Average FPS is literally meaningless, all gamers knows this which is why they ignore this metric). Oh the best part? he standard benchmarks in SINGLE PLAYER GAMES. He did no runs in any online Multi-player games or E-sports games which are the only games THAT ACTUALLY MATTER. He also uses basic XMP profiles instead of putting in the hours/days of work to due custom voltages and timings for a real overclock and then 24-hour stress test the machine for errors to show us the REAL performance gain from tuning/overclocking which is anywhere from 20-40% or even above 50% in performance boosts depending on the game and server/map your playing on in the 1%/01% lows where it actually matters for competitive E-sports and general premium high refresh rate gaming experience.
this is another video why im not subscribed anymore
Why
@JayzTwoCents I'm running an older system and would love to see the DDR4 tests. I have a i7 8700k/Z3900 Aorus with a RTX 3070ti and 32g of 3200 Corsair RAM clocked at 3200. So would something like 3600 sticks do me any good? For reference: I play WoW or Valhiem while streaming content on a second monitor and sometimes also my 32" TV if my wife and I want to watch different things.
naw you would have to get b die and do your own tighter timings..... need like 4000 plus to see if any difference...
Yes please on the ddr4 tests!
1k dislikes hmmm I think people figuring out what is going on here. Lame Jay really lame
Huh? What happened?
Unsubscribed. Misinformation.
With DDR4, ryzen's infinity fabric was tied to ram speed, so getting ram fast enough for the IO subsystem to be happy was important. This was in large part because jdec for ddr4 was 2133 or 2400, and saw significant performance increases up to about 3000. It saw measurable uplift from 3000 to 3600, but nearly nothing beyond 3600.
DDR5 jdec is already so fast you're well onto the tail end of that speed curve. You _might_ need a faster kit if you want to hit jdec speeds on a x4 or x8 ram configuration because you _need_ lots of ram, and want it fast (my ddr4 setup is nominally good to 3800 for 2 sticks, which lets me run 4 sticks at 3600), but that's about the only use case for it.
Came here through the avoid on buying for pc video glad to see the ram video got made
2:08 - "The capacity of RAM should have no impact on your gaming whatsoever, unless your graphics card's RAM is so low, in terms of GDDR RAM available to the graphics chip, that it's doing swap, all the time, with the system RAM."
Pardon me. I'm not a computer expert at all. However, I HAVE been a computer gamer for over 35 years. That statement is TOTAL BS. As a current example, the game "Star Citizen" (SC) is currently in "open alpha" (open to players, while being developed). They recommend a minimum of 16 gigs of RAM to run the game, however we players know that 32 gigs is a lot better, as it makes the game run much more smoothly. HOWEVER, I specifically put in 64 gigs into my latest machine, because the difference is NOTICEABLE, even though the game never uses all the RAM on 32 gig systems. It can get VERY VERY close, sometimes, however. Now, SC is not optimized, at this point. However, optimization will only LESSEN the difference. It will never eliminate it. There will ALWAYS be a difference.
7:24 - A "my raid" of things??? WTaF? The word is "myriad" (MEER-ee-ad). Please don't try to use words you don't know. +facepalm+
You clearly watched further than 2 minutes, and yet completely ignored him specifying that, if your RAM is low enough to affect your games, then your whole system will likely feel sluggish on modern OS' as a result, and you'd notice it well before getting into a game. You've been a gamer for 35+ years and never grew out of the "rage at every little thing" 12 year old on the internet phase? Dude, trolls must love you lol.
disappointing video. I'll probably refrain from watching you in the future for any benchmarks because there are so many things wrong with this video that lose you your credibility
Thanks Jay
Why didn't you include the 1% & 0.1% lows? Huge L take Jay. that's not how you test the influence of RAM Speeds on Gaming Performance. you're literally missing the most impactful test results.
It’s just a 10 min effort content drop 😂. Testing those takes way more time than just running a few averages and rambling off at a camera.
Worst CZcamsr up there with Linus... this is just a rich TV channel showing off hardware. Take this dislike. Frame chasers is a better channel
Yes if possible, give us a DDR4 version of this, also it would be highly appreciated if you can include some frametime graphs or any sort of stutter and 1% lows comparison between different kits. What people seem to ignore is that the sheer number of FPS is useless if the game is running like a stuttery mess.
i wanted to know, what does the timing of the ram actualy do in your system?
i've never quite understood it.
Please do the DDR4 test, with a low CL. I had a nice set of team group, 3600MHz, CL 14...
I'd love to see a comparison focused on the same speed (MHz) but different timings (CAS, RAS, tRAS, CL, etc).
Thanks Jayz. So what is a use case for fast ram?
as always makes tons of sense!
thanks for your awareness
What a load of crap. Stopped at Borderlands 3 on 4080 to test modern ram speeds. This guy lost the plot. Yes there is difference between 4800 and high speed tuned memory, especially on am5, sometimes to extend of 10-15%. Just look at actual hardware reviews not some casual pc celebrity. Not to mention how sluggish pc feels at stock ddr 5 at 70-80ns vs 50-65 ns of latency on tuned system. to not see that, You gotta be some dirty casual not any enthusiast.
Great video. DDR4 test please!
hi Jay and team i am using a old gpu (because i got no budget to buy a new one) Asus Strix Dual GTX 1060 OC 6GB and with latest version of GPU Tweak 3 is getting crazy when ever i select "Apply previous settings on program startup. and then when i restart or even close GPU tweak 3 and launch again my display turns OFF. I use oc scanner to create a profile to load but it turns OFF the screen for few minutes and then turns ON.
But.... when i setup everything manually there's no issue with user mode 1. the problem only comes when i use OS Scanner saved profile.
what should i do to solve this issue ?
Should i downgrade to previous version or back to factory version GPU Tweak 2 ?
Please help me out.
Fixed the problem after downgrade GPU TWEAK 3 from Ver.1723 to Ver.1707. Everything is fine for now.
My PC Spec:
Windows 11 Pro 23H2 OS Build 22631.3085
Intel core i3 8100
Asus Z370 Tuf Gaming Plus mobo
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16gb kit (3000mhz each dimm)
Samsung 970 Evo M.2 storage.
Corsair CS650M PSU
hmm... what about the X3D AMD cpus that dont interact that often with the RAM?
We saw in am4 that the 5800X3D doesnt really care about ram speed. Is it the same with am5?
congrats on 4m! you deserve it so much and youve been on the grind. your videos are so imformative without being boring!
Can you do the test with a lower end gpu? Or maybe even an igpu?
Also, I"m no expert but wouldn't running a higher rated ram at base clock not yield the same results as ram rated only for base speed?
HI Jay , I just wondered if my Asus 4070 12gb , is still viable, I Ryzen 7700 and 16gb of ddr5 ram,4800hz 6tb, mobo is the gigabyte b650i of storage , thanks 👍👍
Nice comparison video of this DDR5, it would be nice to see a similar comparison video for DDR4. I'm using currently 64 GB at 3200 MHZ, I am thinking of upgrading to 6000 MHZ like Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 6800mhz 64GB, would this be worth it? thanks
This is a super useful video, advice the community can use to keep dollars in their pocket.
Plz do a video about ddr4. I’m just running 3200 cl18 but I wonder if going 3600 for my 5600x and 4080 would be worth it. Going to swap in a 5800x3d soon tho
With the higher speeds is there a bigger increase at the min frame rate vs the average frame rate?
Can we get a video on building a pc specially for running unreal engine editor and blender. More 3d and rendering base. I was saving up to build a new pc around $4k I’m thinking for my budget but there’s not to much info out there on this stuff everyone vids are for gaming. I know I want to get the 4090 and a i9. But I’ve been struggling on the best motherboard and other components on what’s the best value wise
I have a question. I want to uograde my graphic card. Procesor i have is ryzen 7 5800x3d. And im thinking goint to rtx 4070 ti super from 3060 ti. Is it good? Or my procesor is too weak for 4070 ti super?
Totally fine up to a 4080/90, just on topic on this video: Your CPU likes well tuned RAM as well. Not as much as other CPU but still slow or bad RAM speeds&timings effect your overall experience.
It is impossible to tell me there's no difference. YOUR RAM IS UNSTABLE AT 7200mhz. There should at least be a 20 - 25% FPS difference on average and 1% lows. Stick to basic reviews rather.
it is very interesting the tests, but it is also worth noting that the motherboards, OS, applications and games are not really ready for these speeds, because with 8600 I have seen improvements depending on which game is running.
Pls do ddr4 vs ddr5 comparison. I think about changing platforms from AM4 to something newer, but I don't know worth it or not. Especially interested in 1% framerates
what about the cpu? in first gen ryzen and cpu heavy games it was worth it in my eyes to get the 3200mhz running or at least 2933mhz. in some games I need to turn down settings if i use stock ddr4 speed to get a smooth running game
hey guys what would be the minimum amount of ram for a gaming pc . i am in the process of working out a new build.. i am thinking 32 gig is now the base amount ??? also what is the minimum amount of vram for gaming 12 or 16 gig
Pleas do a ddr4 video with Ryzen. Thanks for all the great videos you put out.
Since u said that ram doesnt get used much if the gpu has enough ram. what about a low Ram Gpu like 4gb?
would be interested to see a video with those same rams
i would love to see if cl 14 vs 4000 Mhrz for the 5700 x 3d if the x3d cpus are sensitive to it
Hi Jay! I'm interested for you to go further... for example, having AMD AM5 with difference between latency and frequency (sweet spot is 6000mhz cl 30 but .... )
can you add escape from tarkov to the games you test? because its the only game that I know of that needs fast ram and a fast CPU. if you look up Pyurologie he does a lot of tarkov related benchmark and I want your option on it
Would love to see a video on ryzen X3D vs Non X3D. Also timings vs speed. Also testing 2 sticks vs 4 sticks on am5
I got a great deal on my x590 board bc it was returned. It had the DDR4 manual and I bet they figured it was wrong, but it wasn't it was indeed the DDR5 version. I have 2x16 of 4800. I went from a 10400f to a 12400f but stayed with the 3060 12GB and I get pretty noticable gains in many games, and am glad I made the jump.
@JayzTwoCents you really need to test 1% lows and .01% lows in games in all resolutions from 1080p to 4k. i think you will be amazed at the difference in smoothness of gameplay..