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  • We have been big fans of AMD Ryzen ever since it launched in 2016 but one thing has always disappointed me... the lack of overclocking potential... that is why Im truly shocked by these overclocks that we got!!
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  • @llucfajulacadena7840
    @llucfajulacadena7840 Před 3 lety +1569

    The long term degradation testing sounds like a really good idea!

    • @xYleecoyotex
      @xYleecoyotex Před 3 lety +32

      Please do this!!!!

    • @laszlogere5062
      @laszlogere5062 Před 3 lety +16

      How would you even test that? Live it runnuning cinebench 24/7 for months? Yeah maybe like that.

    • @zacheverett4620
      @zacheverett4620 Před 3 lety +3

      ^^^ jay !

    • @cemsengul16
      @cemsengul16 Před 3 lety +9

      Yeah it is funny I am still rocking an old ass 4770K Overclocked to 4.5 GHZ stable 24/7. I am even able to go up to 4.7 GHZ but 4.5 is fully stable with good temperatures and only 1.26 volts. I guess Intel might be superior guys?

    • @timothygibney5656
      @timothygibney5656 Před 3 lety

      I have a busted 9900k to confirm 🙄

  • @bundescoach3528
    @bundescoach3528 Před 3 lety +278

    "it's just not worth your time"
    you underestimate how little my time is worth

    • @ayikkarayajamaanan2062
      @ayikkarayajamaanan2062 Před 3 lety +1

      same bundescock

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Před 3 lety +2

      The issue is you can validate an o/c but only for the short term, the threshold of stability is changing because of the high volts used to achieve it.
      In the past you tested a new CPU, backed off by 1 step on both V and frequency and a stable system tuned to it's CPU resulted, which (usually) ran problem free for years until it caught fire due to dust build up.
      Your time is better spent playing Doom Eternal rather than doing experiments on your CPU which are likely to screw up the careful factory binning and dynamic CPU management

    • @actuallywill
      @actuallywill Před 3 lety +1

      @@RobBCactive just saying, ive ran my 1700 at 4ghz on a b350-f since the week after ryzen launched and i still have the same overclock set today, at the same voltage (1.4-1.43v) and ive had no degradation

  • @pupsaderpupin5627
    @pupsaderpupin5627 Před 3 lety +54

    Jay, I just want to say thanks as your channel has helped me get through this pandemic. The chill music, your casual tone, I learn new interesting things every day. Thanks man.

  • @saiyajinelitehoss
    @saiyajinelitehoss Před 3 lety +1

    Great idea running the chip on Folding@Home!
    Also interesting video, thanks for making it

  • @trienforcer974
    @trienforcer974 Před 3 lety +763

    I would really love to see that long term degradation testing, also (if you see this comment) then would you you recommend just undervolting a ryzen CPU right out of the box instead of turning on pbo?

    • @JirayD
      @JirayD Před 3 lety +23

      Undervolting is probably the best option for tweaking. My advice is not to mess with anything outside of PBO. PBO is still running within spec, it just removes the power limit.

    • @critical_unknown
      @critical_unknown Před 3 lety +15

      Undervolting is all good if power prices are high where you live, otherwise leave it stock and tweak RAM instead.

    • @thestig007
      @thestig007 Před 3 lety +11

      I'm giving my 3900x the full send. PBO on, voltage set to auto. Even if this cpu faces issues later on, the 4000 series CPUs will be out later this year and I'll pick one of those up.

    • @KRGraphicsCG
      @KRGraphicsCG Před 3 lety +5

      I do have the Crosshair Hero 8 and 1.4v is TOO HIGH, even for a high-end system... I wonder if the latest BIOS will set these voltages to a more reasonable level... 1.47v is too aggressive

    • @canofnestea
      @canofnestea Před 3 lety +33

      @@thestig007 Ah to be rich

  • @its_LDJ
    @its_LDJ Před 3 lety +456

    I would really like to see the long term test being the owner of an overclocked 3800X

    • @12gauge5056083
      @12gauge5056083 Před 3 lety +10

      J I have 3 stations with Zen cpus in and like you say they are full sending the voltage on stock settings. I would love to know if my CPU are dying. Maybe run a Intel CPU next to it for a comparison? Thank You for the awesome content as always.

    • @pondwaterjr
      @pondwaterjr Před 3 lety +2

      ditto

    • @captmiller22
      @captmiller22 Před 3 lety +1

      Dito

    • @FireInTheMist8
      @FireInTheMist8 Před 3 lety +4

      What’s your overclock at? I’m at 4.3ghz all cores at 1.25volts. Runs really cool

    • @elninobro1550
      @elninobro1550 Před 3 lety

      same

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw Před 2 lety

    Thanks very much for this overview of this process.

  • @hananas2
    @hananas2 Před 3 lety +18

    When I built a ryzen pc for a friend of mine, at first I tried manually overclocking but then also decided to turn on the motherboard's auto boost because it was just a better option.

    • @Utroll
      @Utroll Před 2 lety +3

      I just let PBO enabled (5950x) with a good cooler, and monitoring sotware shows me 4 cores over 5K Mgh and most others ranging 4.5 to 4.9 .. I don't think I need to push all that further and damage anything too : I decided to quit learning about OC that specific cpu/ram/mb alliance.. fair enough power pseudo stock.

  • @jayhsyn
    @jayhsyn Před 3 lety +75

    I definitely want to see if the chip degrades. Folding at home seems like a good choice because your sacrifice will be for some good

  • @apsims12
    @apsims12 Před 3 lety +217

    Jay lies! He knows exactly how he got that scatch on his forehead, more 67 Camaro shenanigans! 😂😂

    • @HauntedCorpseGaming
      @HauntedCorpseGaming Před 3 lety +18

      Its a deepfake, that's not Jay.

    • @cmagnet
      @cmagnet Před 3 lety +5

      Revenge of the hammer!

    • @teebee4892
      @teebee4892 Před 3 lety +6

      He’s a shill for big bandaid

    • @auturgicflosculator2183
      @auturgicflosculator2183 Před 3 lety +5

      I've got a scratch on my forehead that I don't remember getting, and while I have got 40 or so vehicles lying around outside, I don't remember working on any of them lately.

    • @RussianJan1tor
      @RussianJan1tor Před 3 lety +2

      @@HauntedCorpseGaming so you are saying linus took his channel over?

  • @Jento.
    @Jento. Před 2 lety

    Am I glad Jay always has a video with his solid advice on different topics. Good thing I search for a video from you before I went and overclock my Ryzen 9 5600x

  • @ry60023333
    @ry60023333 Před 3 lety +6

    I would absolutely love to see the long term effects of running it at those clocks!

  • @hadesmcc
    @hadesmcc Před 3 lety +184

    Please do make the degradation study. It's interesting to know.

    • @OlaffLudwig
      @OlaffLudwig Před 3 lety +2

      I second this.

    • @joaocastro924
      @joaocastro924 Před 3 lety +2

      @@OlaffLudwig I third this.

    • @jpfidalgo7
      @jpfidalgo7 Před 3 lety +2

      Yup, Jay please do it!

    • @Plane.
      @Plane. Před 3 lety

      Plz

    • @malphadour
      @malphadour Před 3 lety +3

      Because they can leave a rig sat somewhere for a year or so.......... Deg is vastly overtalked about and completely blown out of proportion by reddit experts. You won't deg a chip unless you put stupid voltage through it.

  • @MrMcGreed
    @MrMcGreed Před 3 lety +48

    Yes, please make that video/experiment! Would be real interesting to actually get some "evidence" either way - and please do folding@home, because all that power will go to a good cause.

    • @EliasRinghauge
      @EliasRinghauge Před 3 lety +5

      Agreed or Rosetta@home as it is more CPU intensive. Folding@home is more suited for GPU calculation.

    • @r.k.vignesh7832
      @r.k.vignesh7832 Před 3 lety +1

      This is an excellent idea! :) Folding or Rosetta, both have CPU WUs. I think Folding@home has problems with larger thread count processors, though, so maybe Rosetta would be the way to go.

    • @Cinnabuns2009
      @Cinnabuns2009 Před 3 lety

      Buildzoid has already reported this behavior though it would be good to have a 2nd example or "confirmation on the behavior". Would also be good to ramp the voltage up slowly so we can tell at what point the voltage degradation is occurring. That would be super useful to the community.

  • @alanhm2000
    @alanhm2000 Před 3 lety

    Degradation testing would be a great video to see!

  • @corkoramaX45
    @corkoramaX45 Před 3 lety +1

    Please do the long-term testing! Would love to see those results!

  • @Brianbd
    @Brianbd Před 3 lety +28

    i definitely would like to see a long term result of this particular CPU!!!!!
    I VOTE YES!

    • @hookhandtech5567
      @hookhandtech5567 Před 3 lety

      Dont waste your time on a revamped 3700x. It was made, the 3800xt, to raise the average sale price of amd across the board. If you already have a 3000 series, hard pass. If not, go with a 3600xt, or 3900xt. The 3800x should have never really existed.

  • @d4vidd
    @d4vidd Před 3 lety

    Great Video! Small note: When you say what values you select for each setting, it would be great help to better understand the context if you would have shown the available options and min/max limits before choosing your actual setting. Cheers

  • @rap33042
    @rap33042 Před 3 lety +56

    Jay, I think you're yanking my chain here with that Windows 95 wallpaper :-)

  • @keegers103
    @keegers103 Před 3 lety +116

    Like that windows 95 background, imagine trying to do this on windows 95...

    • @Brianbd
      @Brianbd Před 3 lety +1

      lmao!!

    • @G4r2i0f
      @G4r2i0f Před 3 lety +2

      lol I saw it last video as well. I still have a Win95 system

    • @TheWTFsauce
      @TheWTFsauce Před 3 lety

      Not gonna lie I was like “damn didn’t even think could run it at first”

    • @jakedevries1455
      @jakedevries1455 Před 3 lety

      Lol I thought he was from the thumbnail 😁

    • @keegers103
      @keegers103 Před 3 lety +1

      @Atlantean If you know how to code maybe not!

  • @lashyndragon
    @lashyndragon Před 3 lety +43

    Would love to see it. Maybe compare the XT to an early 3000 chip, and for that matter maybe an intel chip like an 8700k that you don't use anymore. Which one lasts longer?
    Also, folding seems like a good use.

  • @1991dougie
    @1991dougie Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video and preventing me from wasting my time or blowing up my cpu ,love your videos!!

  • @JuxZeil
    @JuxZeil Před 3 lety +10

    Would be really interesting to see the results of a long term test of degradation. 👍
    I've just finished my 3950X build , and on the ROG Impact mobo the BIOS looked like it was feeding the cores 1.47V so I dropped it down to 1.35V(it's on water).........but in reality it wasn't. That setting in the BIOS actually just gives that voltage to the scheduler, the cores are only drawing off that one source so it's spread out quite thin really.
    I would like to see if the scheduler itself is able to take that voltage so could you really go deep on this one and do the test in increments. 🙏

  • @Jay-pf1xg
    @Jay-pf1xg Před 3 lety +11

    Love to see a longitudinal study of the overclocking on the Ryzen 3000's :) Be amazing to see what actually happens.

  • @CPowell133
    @CPowell133 Před 3 lety +150

    22:06 - Long term degradation test would be great to see. Been siting on a 4790K with the hopes to jump to the next series of Ryzen this fall. But, as someone who tends to keep PC hardware for a long time, hence 4790K, this latest issues gave me some pause on Ryzen.

    • @tortuga_za
      @tortuga_za Před 3 lety +8

      I think when running stock or just PBO and Auto OC, degradation will not really be a problem that will affect lifespan, just keep your bios up to date so that mobo manages power correctly.

    • @thepowerlies
      @thepowerlies Před 3 lety +1

      @@tortuga_za I mean why would anyone who wants to use hardware for a "long" time do that anyway when it provides auto OC itself?

    • @THEpicND
      @THEpicND Před 3 lety

      I have the same plan.. im on a i7 3770

    • @singular9
      @singular9 Před 3 lety +4

      Been running my 6700k at 4.7ghz 1.35v since day one....4 years later it still scoring the same in tests. Silicon degradation is so minor it only becomes an issue when you are doing extreme OC (for me that would be 4.9ghz at 1.4v and after that nothing will run.) Every cpu is different.

    • @pkbeast
      @pkbeast Před 3 lety +2

      I think that the long term degradation project sounds good. When testing performance, you shoot for best case scenario e.g. CPU testing with a 2080ti on the test bench so this test should be shooting for worst case scenario. If you do it with Folding@Home then you can test with CPU pegged at 100% AND help towards a bigger cause... Win Win situation imo.

  • @nickrosato1937
    @nickrosato1937 Před 3 lety +4

    yeah, I would like to see that long term stuff, man.

  • @danielnelson5782
    @danielnelson5782 Před 3 lety +1

    Yes i would love to see you make that video!

  • @jaredstewmelt
    @jaredstewmelt Před 3 lety +127

    2:27 "Set it to DOCP and... call it a day"
    Jay proceeds to override DOCP and downclock the memory to 3600 MHz

    • @blatcher2
      @blatcher2 Před 3 lety +12

      He wanted the Fabric to be stable at 1:1 aka 1800Mhz. Prior to the XT series, unless you won the silicon lottery you could almost never get above 1900mhz and that would have been 1934."Most people" would be fine at DOCP and it sets memory timings as well so Jay would likely benefit in this case

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Před 3 lety +14

      ram speed does matter a little on AMD but ram speed matching the infinity fabric matters most. fastest STABLE IF speed is usually right around 1800mhz, so running that setting and ram at 3600 with some tighter timings will get you MUCH faster performance across the board

    • @jaredstewmelt
      @jaredstewmelt Před 3 lety +1

      @@blatcher2 I know exactly what he was doing.

    • @phlixcarbon
      @phlixcarbon Před 3 lety +5

      blatcher2 XTs should run at 1900 IF stable Steve from GN was demonstrating this on his 3600XT OC.

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 Před 3 lety +9

      @@ghomerhust Ram speed absolutely matters a lot - up to a point. There are diminishing returns past a point... but more important than ram speed is ram timings, they are HUGE for ryzen and zen 2 specifically. 3600mhz CL14 (and just as important, optimized subtimings... 14-14-14-14-30-56 etc etc) is the sweet spot for zen 2 tuning. Why? because it gets you 95% of the maximum potential gains, without needing the very best most expensive exotic ram kits. Even CL15 or 16 is pretty great (at 3600-3800mhz). If you can do 3800mhz (1:1 with 1900 fclock) and keep the timings at 14, that's just about as good as it gets.
      DOCP settings are TRASH, and thus Jay's settings are trash. it wont matter for cinebench or most other all-core workloads, but for gaming it's significant. it doesn't matter if he runs 1:1 at 3600mhz, his timings are garbage... he lowered his ram speed without even tightening the timings... his DOCP timings where what... cl 18-19? makes me puke. he's leaving 5-10% gaming performance on the table.
      he doesn't know how to optimize/tweak zen 2 period, he's a novice... one level over a beginner. the average AMD subredditer knows more than Jay on this topic.
      he's flat out wrong about average all-core overclocks for zen 2, which have always been minimum 4.3, and mostly 4.4ghz. all these reviewers that stuck with their SUPER early silicon apparently never realized how quickly and drastically it improved, within months. my 3800x from feb 2020 hits 4.6 all core ~1.4v, and 4.5ghz all core ~ 1.35v. it can boot at 1.3 but it's not stable. but it could probably do 4.4 at 1.25v
      literally NO ONE is stuck at 4.1-4.2 like he says, except for trash early silicon or NON X series parts with garbage CCD's by design... they're the lowest bins. even the average 3700x, a mediocre bin, hits 4.4ghz all core... at least in 2020.

  • @Leonsimages
    @Leonsimages Před 3 lety +55

    9:02 its actually not on Auto, you *manually* set it to 1.4625v in the Manual OC tab

    • @dremoralord6730
      @dremoralord6730 Před 3 lety

      It's both. When he's in the BIOS you can see the 1.46v on the right hand side

    • @NigguhMake
      @NigguhMake Před 3 lety +23

      @@dremoralord6730 This has been well established for a while now. Auto settings on zen2 will run ~1.45v during single core and very light workloads. It uses a very complex automatic algorithm that dials back voltage to around 1.2v-1.3v during all core workloads. You can even see it yourself using monitoring software. It will never run anywhere near 1.45v during an all core workload with auto settings, even with PBO settings maxed out. I've had zen2 since launch day and never once messed with the voltage and I haven't had any degradation. It's best to leave the cpu multiplier and voltages on auto. Manually tweaking RAM frequency and timings using DRAM calculator is a good way to squeeze out some extra performance. More gains to be had here than you would by manually OCing the CPU.

    • @The.Toaster
      @The.Toaster Před 3 lety +1

      @@NigguhMake I forgot about that. Aida64 will show you that live. Auto or load line calibration will do that.

    • @OLOLZULU
      @OLOLZULU Před 3 lety

      @@NigguhMake yep, since the BIOS is a light workload, it's entirely possible it runs at about 1.45V if you have PBO enabled. And yep, I'm pretty sure Jay did not notice that he left it on a static 1.46 when using ryzen master. With 7 cores at 3.7/3.9 and one at 4.7, it will never apply 1.46V on auto settings. I don't blame him, ryzen master will not warn you. It will only warn you if you do not include the manual voltage setting when setting core clocks manually. There is a way to find safe voltages and that is by enabling PBO, run different worst case allcore workloads, and extrapolate a voltage/frequency curve.
      Also, it's entirely up to you but don't use DRAM calculator, take your time to manually tune everything over a month or so. I guess it could be somewhat useful for the most popular ICs (i.e. B-die), but even then it can't account for all the other parts involved (mobo, CPU clocks, IMC, Data Fabric)
      Jay, about the other cores compensating clock speeds as you do per-core overclocking in Ryzen Master, it's because of the clock dividers. How they work I have no idea. If you set clocks per-CCX, you won't have that problem of course.

    • @alistairglen1458
      @alistairglen1458 Před 3 lety +2

      @@NigguhMake Que the "I was wrong" video at some point. As much as i like Jay sometimes he need to engage brain before opening his mouth..lol

  • @michaelkane6797
    @michaelkane6797 Před 3 lety +9

    I'm personally more interested in stability over absolute performance these days, but it would be interesting to see how fast they degrade. I also would be interested to know if after the degradation was measured, a fresh coat of thermal paste, a fresh cooler and perhaps a fresh motherboard and memory would restore performance. Probably asking a lot...

  • @kuma4891
    @kuma4891 Před 3 lety +14

    It would be interesting to see tutorial on how you reached that 4.6GHz, would you make a video about it?

  • @SPIRIT-117
    @SPIRIT-117 Před 3 lety +5

    Please do the long term test, I'd love to see that!

  • @TheBoltcranck
    @TheBoltcranck Před 3 lety +50

    22:30 I think for this kind of test you will need 2 set of test-benches 1 with a Ryzen 3000 XT running with stock settings and the other running with your OC settings.

    • @Drinnan
      @Drinnan Před 3 lety +6

      The problem from that though is you get different qualities of the same chip. Who's to say the best or worst chip will be the 1 he's overclocking?

    • @goncaloandrade6090
      @goncaloandrade6090 Před 3 lety +3

      3point1 that’s true but it’s still better than not having a control

    • @vehiclefailstv
      @vehiclefailstv Před 3 lety +3

      3point1 I don’t think it would matter about cpu quality because you’re running one at stock and one overclocked, then comparing the changes in speed over time, therefore if the overclocked cpu decreases in speed more (has a greater delta) than the stock cpu (or vice versa) you have a conclusion

    • @REVOLUTIONS51
      @REVOLUTIONS51 Před 3 lety

      You do not need one as long as you document well enough the performance of the chip you start with. Like voltages Vs stable clock speed, performance at various clock speed etc. Doing these initial tests with a precise set of 2x8 decently timed ram. Then you take off those ram chips to preserve them and run the degradation load with a sacrificial ram kit. This way at the end you'll have the CPU as only variable.

  • @EliteKhajiit
    @EliteKhajiit Před 3 lety

    Jay's usually my go-to channel for busy work background videos.

  • @martinhami3
    @martinhami3 Před 3 lety

    Yes, please do the long term test. I'm thinking of upgrading to a ryzen system soon. I currently do a lot of heavy calculations with financial data analysis, machine learning, etc. Often have folding ticking over in the background when just doing casual work. A test like this would be fantastic. Just doing folding at Max settings would be really interesting to see number of work units completed during this time, as well as any degredation.

  • @trevoryoung1962
    @trevoryoung1962 Před 3 lety +14

    I would like to see the long-term test and then at the end of it I’d like to see you through that processor in another motherboard to verify that it’s actually processor

  • @homegrowntwinkie
    @homegrowntwinkie Před 3 lety +10

    I really, really hope he does a Ryzen RAM OC video.

  • @brianlarsen4045
    @brianlarsen4045 Před 3 lety +1

    yes, please do a long term testing, sound like a great idea :)

  • @QuintilianA
    @QuintilianA Před 2 lety +2

    Would love to see an updated video for the 5000 series and curve optimizer undervolting

  • @kommandokodiak6025
    @kommandokodiak6025 Před 3 lety +78

    jay was abducted by aliens in his sleep they gave him the scar after giving him an implant

    • @Cheezzy0
      @Cheezzy0 Před 3 lety

      ...and then Scott Baio gave him pink-eye...

    • @stevenwest1494
      @stevenwest1494 Před 3 lety +8

      Hate it when they go through the forehead to plant an anal probe.

    • @fifthnail
      @fifthnail Před 3 lety

      Hopefully the Alien didn't have Covid.

    • @DanielFrost79
      @DanielFrost79 Před 3 lety

      That explains why he can't speak properly then. 😲

    • @D1craigRob
      @D1craigRob Před 3 lety

      Maybe hit will make him "digress" less.

  • @RearViewRacing
    @RearViewRacing Před 3 lety +20

    Windows 95. The Legend..

  • @arcamediuas
    @arcamediuas Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for all the videos Jay and Phil, appreciate it. I've come across the same degrading factor but its been weird, as I been seeing drops, but I've been tinkering more and more, and able to keep my particular 3900x at a 4.4ish range(lottery). I'm very curious what would happen over a long term use, and I would be interested in seeing what long term max manual overclock degradation(if there is significant degradation, and if this is something to be worried about compared to AMD's next gen processors) actually is, as I have personally dialled mine back a bit because it was also a concern for me. If you're up for it, I'd be extremely interested in your findings. I know the 3900x differs from the 3800xt, but the architecture is similar and think its fair to assume similar results across the board for this gen. Big fan, watch all your videos! Keep it up, and I'll keep tuning in. Thanks, to both of you.

  • @marshallgolowenski7439

    Hey jay! You should upload these guides for the mainstream motherboard bios. I myself have used ASUS motherboards but now I’m on MSI. It’s not as easy to relate what you’re referring to MSIs verbiage within bios.
    Great content as always!

  • @davidguille5992
    @davidguille5992 Před 3 lety +5

    Jay try turning off all core boost then manually over clocking.
    I think you'll be pleasantly supprised

  • @pkbeast
    @pkbeast Před 3 lety +12

    I think that the long term degradation project sounds good. When testing performance, you shoot for best case scenario e.g. CPU testing with a 2080ti on the test bench so this test should be shooting for worst case scenario. If you do it with Folding@Home then you can test with CPU pegged at 100% AND help towards a bigger cause... Win Win situation imo.

  • @JohnDoe-sq5ob
    @JohnDoe-sq5ob Před 3 lety +2

    0:52 You no longer have to keep tapping on the DEL key to access the BIOS, holding it down will work. Found out recently :)

    • @MeriaDuck
      @MeriaDuck Před 3 lety

      If you have grey hairs like him or almost no hair anymore, tapping del will be hard to let go. Been tapping del to reach bios for, dare I say it, almost thirty years now ...

  • @brandonmullen2328
    @brandonmullen2328 Před 3 lety

    I'd be certainly interested in long term testing of the processors. I think folding at home is a good check for it.

  • @two-keytech7578
    @two-keytech7578 Před 3 lety +5

    thanks for your videos built my first computer last year thanks to you!!!

  • @ozreshef5182
    @ozreshef5182 Před 3 lety +19

    I set my 3700x to 1.25v 4.25Ghz all core, 65c max with Corsair H115i Platinum at cinebench R20.
    Stock it's was 1.3v 4.0Ghz..

    • @cjttuapawa
      @cjttuapawa Před 3 lety +2

      Managed 4.2ghz all core with 1.15v just hated the amount of heat from pbo this was on a 3600

    • @boratsagdiyev1586
      @boratsagdiyev1586 Před 3 lety

      @@cjttuapawa 5.3 ghz on 8 cores here on a NH15 aircooler.

    • @Vihara2
      @Vihara2 Před 3 lety

      I gave up using pbo cuz i kept getting crashes, i think i have a poorly binned 3900x, i have a noctua nh15 cooler and a high spec machine too.

    • @sambarnett8041
      @sambarnett8041 Před 3 lety +5

      After leaving my 3800x stock for a while, recently I tried going manual. Running 4.4 ghz at 1.275v with cooler temps (~66c on a 10 min Cinebench R20 run vs. mid 70s [Corsair h115i]). All core score went up a few hundred points while single core is functionally the same (+/- 2-3 points).

    • @user-ph4co5jo4b
      @user-ph4co5jo4b Před 3 lety

      @@sambarnett8041 nice undervolt im running same speeds but at 1.375v

  • @MrGiulik
    @MrGiulik Před 3 lety

    YES, long term testing please. 'Caz in the near feature I want to build a system based on AMD and I want to stress a little.
    I wanna know if that stress will cause degradation to it.
    love your work, Love how Phil dies in the background. you guys make a hell out of a team !

  • @hookhandtech5567
    @hookhandtech5567 Před 3 lety

    Steve was tinkering with the voltages on the 3600xt and dropping volts to 1.287 was the sweet spot. It punched out a lot more performance with such a low voltage, even with letting the other auto settings go to town.

  • @miker5797
    @miker5797 Před 3 lety +4

    Long term degradation testing all the way please. Thank you for the videos! They have helped me build my first PC!

  • @macintosh8328
    @macintosh8328 Před 3 lety +13

    (says like Palpatine) ...DO IT!

  • @kalopad6355
    @kalopad6355 Před 3 lety +1

    I’d love to see the long time experiment!

  • @sudoertor2009
    @sudoertor2009 Před 3 lety

    I'd love to see that video mate

  • @no1bandfan
    @no1bandfan Před 3 lety +45

    I usually don’t know I have cuts on my hands till I use hand sanitizer or cleaning products. Then I find out real quick.

    • @bubba9384
      @bubba9384 Před 3 lety +4

      "Owwww, WTF.... How did I get that" yea.... I've said that many many times...

    • @MrJM0B
      @MrJM0B Před 3 lety +2

      Always the outside of the pinky finger.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Před 3 lety +1

      I was a Printer for many years & would constantly get paper cuts without noticing until I washed my hands

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Před 3 lety +1

      @Warm Soft Kitty a person who runs a printing press, I started my apprenticeship in 1986 when I was 15, I used to print Letterheads (Before Email), Business Cards, Wedding Invites, Hospital Forms, Advertising Brochures, Annual reports, Raffle Tickets, all sorts of stuff

  • @johnl2992
    @johnl2992 Před 3 lety +31

    What keyboard was that bc i like it and depending on price I might get it

    • @rev_dude
      @rev_dude Před 3 lety +2

      I think that is the one he modded for the star wars build

  • @PhysiologywithChristian

    This was a helpful video!!

  • @No_Treading
    @No_Treading Před 3 lety

    Most definitely do the long term testing. I would love to see how they hold up or better yet don't hold up to that kind of work load over that long period of time.

  • @pattondurio
    @pattondurio Před 3 lety +3

    I have no interest in trying to squeeze more performance out of my cpu, but I would certainly like to try undervolting to lower the risk of degradation.

  • @roshill2010
    @roshill2010 Před 3 lety +9

    He's the long lost Harry potter of pc's with that scratch on his head xD. He got struck by an unforgivable cabinet door.

  • @BrandonWatkinsBmW13294

    That's a great idea You should definitely do that test! Sacrifice the CPU, and do the long-term testing!

  • @ronnysvanmo9133
    @ronnysvanmo9133 Před 3 lety

    I would for sure like to see the long term test!
    I´m an owner of overclocked 3900X

  • @TheVillainOfTheYear
    @TheVillainOfTheYear Před 3 lety +4

    Best video in a long time, Jay. From any Tech Tuber.
    Thank you for going against public opinion which is based on artificial metrics like "price to performance" and telling it like it is with actual issues with a product.
    I would definitely watch 100% of your videos testing degradation on different scenarios over time for both AMD AND Intel platforms. Keep up the great work.

  • @christophervanzetta
    @christophervanzetta Před 3 lety +6

    “Use of the feature [Precision Boot Overdrive] invalidates the AMD product warranty”

    • @gangigooga7710
      @gangigooga7710 Před 3 lety

      Is that actually what they say?

    • @christophervanzetta
      @christophervanzetta Před 3 lety +1

      @@gangigooga7710 Yes. Read their warranty information

    • @fireonyxiaz
      @fireonyxiaz Před 3 lety +2

      @@christophervanzetta but it's hardly enforced because it's basically impossible for AMD to tell if someone actually used it or not.
      Unless you're dumb enough to tell them.

    • @Azerkeux
      @Azerkeux Před 3 lety

      @@fireonyxiaz That's a pretty nasty stab in the back, I thought that AMD was the 'customer friendly underdog' you just gonna do them dirty like that?

  • @anzekranjc3312
    @anzekranjc3312 Před 2 lety +1

    Here is jay on a 3800xt talking about how you can sometimes get 4.3ghz all core overclock. And here am I running 4.75ghz on my 5800x. Generational improvement!

  • @johndankel1211
    @johndankel1211 Před 3 lety

    Long-term testing is a great idea and could help in future

  • @zander145
    @zander145 Před 3 lety +18

    I've been confused as to how to get the most out of my system since I built it...
    Build: AMD 3700X, Asus TUF X570, Corsair MP600, 5600 XT (went cheap because upgrading to Ampere when released), EVGA 850W, Arctic Freezer 2 360, Lian Li 011-Dyanic, G. Skill 3600Mhz ddr4 32gb.
    I have 3 fans on bottom for intake, rad is side mounted with 6 fans for full push/pull, 2 fans on top for exhaust. My question is, Should I just enable PBO and set it to get the highest gains (Think you can tell it to go like 200% or mhz or idk) and would that be the best bet for me? I haven't done a build since AMD Phenom II 550 BE (Basically a 950). Any advice is much appreciated!

    • @Gottwtf
      @Gottwtf Před 3 lety +11

      Dont touch the CPU, tune the RAM. If you can get 3733, or even 3800 with Infinityfabrickclock in sync and low latencies stable on the Memory, you will gain way more than anything else. The boost of those ryzen2s is way better, than anything you can achieve manually.

    • @nataflet
      @nataflet Před 3 lety

      @@Gottwtf So ryzen chips are simply much worse without these tweaks. It seems ryzen is not as powerful as some people might say.
      So why even with these tweaks, it cannot beat a $400 Intel CPU like 10700K ?
      It should mean Ryzen without tweaks is way worse than a 10700K.

    • @noba4696
      @noba4696 Před 3 lety +6

      I can only give you my personal experience with my 3800X:
      Out of the Box with 3200RAM C20 Score: 4900
      PBO and 3200 RAM: 4950 (insanely hot, 90C on Custom Water)
      syncing IF manually to 1600: 4850 (no idea why my score went down, but i could consistently reproduce this with different settings)
      All core frequency locked @ 4,3GHz with a VID of 1,26V an 3200RAM gave me the best score 5150 and only 65°C...

    • @sarahrose7445
      @sarahrose7445 Před 3 lety +5

      That's what you call cheap?
      That GPU isn't bad. It's a good mid range card.
      A lot of people would be happy to have.
      As it seems like you don't have financial problems and you are just waiting for the new gen I hope that you will sell that RX 5600XT cheaply on the used market for people who might need it😊

    • @noba4696
      @noba4696 Před 3 lety +8

      @GraveNoX Well, where i live, the 10700k costs 50% more than the 3800X with basically the same performance...

  • @ballusingh9948
    @ballusingh9948 Před 3 lety +7

    Is Jay telling me that over clocking is much better on a Intel chip when compared to AMD and it yields better performance boost on Intel then AMD

    • @Bobdylan12121
      @Bobdylan12121 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah probably, but Intel actually needs to overclock to touch Ryzen performance. Not to mention Ryzens are so so much more efficient. 45w compared to 95 and even 105w? Not even a question. Not to mention 7nm is king, and 14nm is old hat.

    • @sqeaky8190
      @sqeaky8190 Před 3 lety

      @@Bobdylan12121 But is 14nm++++++++ old hat?

    • @ballusingh9948
      @ballusingh9948 Před 3 lety

      @@Bobdylan12121 I mean you are right but we cannot ignore that Intel can challenge AMD and even overcome it in some cases if over clocked to its limit at least Intel is trying to give competition

  • @Telecasterland
    @Telecasterland Před 3 lety

    Fascinating overclock results.

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 Před 3 lety

    That long term test sounds like a great idea!

  • @cjprojects7975
    @cjprojects7975 Před 3 lety +4

    "Per clock overcore"

  • @Puzobit
    @Puzobit Před 3 lety +3

    MAKE IT!!! I'd love to see how degradation really is on AMD :)

  • @mr.vanschrieck8343
    @mr.vanschrieck8343 Před 3 lety

    that would be interesting to know, do it!

  • @andrewryder3075
    @andrewryder3075 Před 3 lety

    +1 on Ryzen 3xxx long-term analysis video. Whether VID from the cores or MoBos responding to it too aggressively, it DOES seem (anecdotally, at least) to be an issue.

  • @acekorneya1
    @acekorneya1 Před 3 lety +13

    and another thing is Ryzen Cpu dont scale good in games with higher frequencies because their overall latency they scale in tile base rendering that's pretty much it.... that's the main problem with Ryzen 3000 series...

    • @IPIRIEY
      @IPIRIEY Před 3 lety +8

      Still, my 3600 with a 2080 super is almost on par in performance with a 8700k. The only time you see a big difference is if you have say a 9900k with a 2080ti, and playing at 1080p with medium or low settings to really get the frames high. However if you are playing with graphic settings maxed or on ultra, the cheapo 3600 almost matches the flagship expensive Intel cpus, as well as the 3900x.

    • @mackenziebullied4900
      @mackenziebullied4900 Před 3 lety

      The 8 cores have dual 4 core ccx thats enough cores in 1 ccx to not cause issues benchmarks prove

  • @iknowfry
    @iknowfry Před 3 lety +3

    Adding MY two cents, would love to see the degradation video :)

  • @Dime1820
    @Dime1820 Před 3 lety

    I would love to see long term testing.

  • @2564eva
    @2564eva Před 3 lety +1

    I love when you deep dive software

  • @riekopo7638
    @riekopo7638 Před 3 lety +6

    I believe the reason the cores are dropping is because there are power limits baked into it.

  • @tj_2701
    @tj_2701 Před 3 lety +5

    The scratch probably happened in your sleep

    • @wexoriann
      @wexoriann Před 3 lety

      No he had visitor From Intel HQ because he's not doing enough to promote intel :)

  • @christophersullivan7400

    So it’s gonna take me like six months saving up to buy all the parts peace by peace but eventually my parts will be here for my first of build and I’m definitely glad I found your channel

  • @lukep.7398
    @lukep.7398 Před 3 lety

    I would really like to see the long term test :)

  • @uonadtehrrocks
    @uonadtehrrocks Před 3 lety +3

    "OC NOT worth it"
    Jayztwocents

  • @ettouhamiyoussef1080
    @ettouhamiyoussef1080 Před 3 lety +6

    24min08sec Video posted 2 mins ago, already 2 dislikes.. pple disliking this fast, are you ok ?

  • @michaelkvist8914
    @michaelkvist8914 Před 3 lety

    Yes long term testing sounds great.

  • @ASMR-soothingsounds
    @ASMR-soothingsounds Před 3 lety

    Def do long term test. Folding @home would be a good candidate maybe?

  • @ManolisTheKing
    @ManolisTheKing Před 3 lety +16

    CZcams: There's 30 comments
    Also CZcams: Shows One

    • @deminybs
      @deminybs Před 3 lety +1

      I'm sure CZcams will correct it's ways now that you commented this

    • @ManolisTheKing
      @ManolisTheKing Před 3 lety

      @@deminybs hehe i wish but that's how CZcams works :/

    • @wowwow-xp9sk
      @wowwow-xp9sk Před 3 lety

      Multimillion dollar company guys

    • @ahyaan2552
      @ahyaan2552 Před 3 lety

      Yt broken everywhere :(

    • @onboard3
      @onboard3 Před 3 lety

      For me 1hour later youtube says 16 comments and there's hundreds.

  • @cjones29hd
    @cjones29hd Před 3 lety

    Would have liked to seen some testing with a locked voltage below 1.4 and what the all core overclock could be along with temps.

  • @thimkful
    @thimkful Před 3 lety

    Absolutely yes on the degradation test. I'd love to see it. Also please mention your decision when made. And results of it occasionally, particularly if degradation is seen. I'm hoping to turn on my first-ever AMD system tomorrow. I'm not going to overclock *at all* until I know more.

  • @IamLation
    @IamLation Před 3 lety +5

    the last time i was this early she left me

  • @julshg
    @julshg Před 3 lety +16

    10:20
    So...i should be veeeery happy, that my R7 1700 is running at 4.15GHz right?
    Weeeellllll...
    (1.3625V, never above 68°C, 75€ 280mm AIO, Asrock B450 MPro4 & X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming)

    • @holmd90
      @holmd90 Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah my Gf has a 1200 that I was able to get running at 4.225, but I’ve left it at 4.1 because I don’t want to risk it being unstable

    • @yammarques
      @yammarques Před 3 lety +1

      dude the best I could get on a 1600x was 3.85 all core, it defaults to single core 4.15-ish. is that 4.15 all-core? if so, damn, talk about good silicon lottery

    • @adnelortiz
      @adnelortiz Před 3 lety

      What voltage? Mine runs perfectly fine at 1.35v 3.8GHz and I feel like stressing it at 1.4v 3.9GHz. Might do 4.0 but that's probably 1.45v and is not a good idea for a 24/7 schedule.

    • @rawdez_
      @rawdez_ Před 3 lety

      @@yammarques depends heavily on the board. first gen ryzen had crap boards with crap VRMs that are no good for OC. second gen boards were a little better but ASRock and cheap ASUS stayed being crap for OC.

    • @khaoticpenguin3945
      @khaoticpenguin3945 Před 3 lety

      @@rawdez_ my cheap asrock lets me OC my 2600 to all core 4.2 so idk about the whole asrock being crap for OC

  • @garyyates2030
    @garyyates2030 Před 2 lety

    It has been my experience just set memory and CSM and you're good to go.

  • @JiminyP91
    @JiminyP91 Před 3 lety

    Yup I would like to see that long term deg test.

  • @JamesC213
    @JamesC213 Před 3 lety +6

    "I have no idea how i got this scratch on my forehead", tell the wife to cut her toe nails lol

    • @papayaman123
      @papayaman123 Před 3 lety +1

      toenails? you mean fingernails right?

    • @iBoolGuy
      @iBoolGuy Před 3 lety +1

      PapayaMan I think he meant what he said 😂😂

    • @bukhosim2829
      @bukhosim2829 Před 3 lety

      @@papayaman123 Does 69 sound familiar?

    • @papayaman123
      @papayaman123 Před 3 lety

      @@bukhosim2829 you're disgusting

    • @papayaman123
      @papayaman123 Před 3 lety

      @@iBoolGuy haha oh gosh

  • @PsychicallySober
    @PsychicallySober Před 3 lety +5

    Me: *Thinks Im First*
    But,246views 30comments

  • @redsgarage6472
    @redsgarage6472 Před 3 lety

    I got my 3700x to 4375 on ccx0 and 4350 on ccx1 at 1.4v. Been running this setup since December of last year. No issues.

  • @richardrussell7082
    @richardrussell7082 Před 3 lety

    I think Folding would be good for the long term test because it's doing good in addition to providing test data.

  • @raresmacovei8382
    @raresmacovei8382 Před 3 lety +2

    I like how the focus is on the back of his neck's shirt, as opposed to his face.

  • @karathkasun
    @karathkasun Před 3 lety

    @JayzTwoCents Total power seems to be what kills Zen 2, not just voltage. By default, voltage drops for each additional core hitting maximum boost. More cores = more amps = more load on the power distribution part of the silicon, at least from what I have read about 7nm.