Ryzen 5000 Undervolting with PBO2 - Absolutely Worth Doing

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  • @optimumtech
    @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +548

    Slight correction - some users are seeing PBO2 available on B450 motherboards.
    Another update: It is available on some boards with AGESA 1.1.0.0, including my Crosshair VIII Impact. Just tested the Ryzen 5900X in my own system - it can do a negative offset of 25.

    • @ivchatov
      @ivchatov Před 3 lety

      If you push the curve down far enough with this feature, does it result in lower idle temps?

    • @Kraxt0n
      @Kraxt0n Před 3 lety

      @@ivchatov yes sure does. But if u push curve and leave 200mhz auto oc on you may have to increase (from -30 or -20) curve to persay -12

    • @Kraxt0n
      @Kraxt0n Před 3 lety +2

      @@ivchatov with auto no curve 200mhz auto oc max voltage is 1.45/48v on b550 gaming edge wifi, and it's x570 counter. With 200mhz auto oc + -12 curve max voltage (with 4.85ghz all core) is 1.41v.... temps will go crazy without pbo and limiting edc etc. He didn't touch this bc it's different for EVERY chip say, 10 5600x not one will have the same pbo limitations. (All is auto, no manual voltage sets other than 4000mhz 2000fclk to ram, and 1.45v on my dram voltage. No static oc to the processor. Am able to run 3200c14 sticks of tforce dark pro at 16,15,15,15,32,38 with tight subs an secondary timings. (Wasn't asked about but these chips from what I've seen are all doing 2000fclk oc. Even on e die kits (worst ram die to date.)

    • @turskaparoni
      @turskaparoni Před 3 lety +6

      I have B450 Tomahawk Max with AGESA 1.1.0.0 Patch D. Running 5600X PBO2 enabled.

    • @Kraxt0n
      @Kraxt0n Před 3 lety +2

      @@turskaparoni yep, curve works as I stated. It's under advanced on msi boards inside amd overclocking

  • @asmspec3018
    @asmspec3018 Před 3 lety +346

    Ali... it's 6am and I shouldn't be doing a BIOS update and tuning an undervolt... but here I am doing a BIOS update and tuning an undervolt.

  • @speed33169
    @speed33169 Před 2 lety +121

    MY Ryzen 7 5800x with a -30 offset: Novabench showed a jump from 4.68 to 4.83 GHZ and an overall score increase from 4195 to 4245. CPU runs 12c lower at idle and roughly 8 - 10c lower under load. Great information and a real worthwhile tweak for 5000 series users.

    • @SkillerWolfCFM
      @SkillerWolfCFM Před rokem

      thank you and also you seem to be lucky as Im hitting 4.7-4.75 GHz at maximum in cinebench and even drops slightly under 4.7 GHz because it reaches around 80-82 degrees. Im using Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360

    • @Movierecap998
      @Movierecap998 Před 10 měsíci

      What settings you used?

    • @5erase
      @5erase Před 9 měsíci +5

      Starfield is wrecking my temps, 89c on the CPU while playing the game so here I am trying to undervolt my 5800x

    • @Movierecap998
      @Movierecap998 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@5erase how is your airflow and what cpu cooler you use

    • @dirtybeak9598
      @dirtybeak9598 Před 3 měsíci +1

      what is your idle temp? I have the same cpu is sitting at 45C with firefox open.

  • @asadianbelifont3875
    @asadianbelifont3875 Před 3 lety +552

    With a negative offset of 30 this literally reduced core temps by 15 degrees while maintaining a higher clock speed, no joke. Any spike in load would cause my 5900x to jet up to 70-80 degrees on a 360mm aio, after applying this, that temp is around 55. Insane!

    • @ibrahimturan28
      @ibrahimturan28 Před rokem +34

      Mine was 70-80 and I had 2 times bleu screen. After this video my 5600x cpu temp stays at 60-70.

    • @JoshMustillo
      @JoshMustillo Před rokem +10

      Nice! Yeah I was pretty shocked when I upgraded to a 5950X, when launching programs it would jump to 70 degrees, basically opening chrome would have higher temp then a benchmark. Going to try this negative offset today see how we go!

    • @MrEcho419
      @MrEcho419 Před rokem +2

      holy shit man thats awesome!

    • @bogpan
      @bogpan Před rokem

      @@ibrahimturan28 What about 100% load?

    • @ibrahimturan28
      @ibrahimturan28 Před rokem

      @@bogpan after my cpu froze i changed my cooler to scythe version c.
      I have now problem with screen freeze ingame. But the temps stay 39 to 50 max i think

  • @carlos-ferreira
    @carlos-ferreira Před 3 lety +1983

    Finally a guide by someone that really know whats he is doing.

    • @billedwardz
      @billedwardz Před 3 lety +265

      I'll probably sound like a dick but I just find this comment funny since the last time he uploaded an undervolting video he had to take it down because of the massive amount of misinformation.

    • @silverreaps6803
      @silverreaps6803 Před 3 lety +56

      @@billedwardz thats kinda funny

    • @dominickdupuy7891
      @dominickdupuy7891 Před 3 lety +14

      He pressed a cpu down after installing it in the video

    • @jirihorsky9600
      @jirihorsky9600 Před 3 lety

      @@billedwardz Which video was that?

    • @SkilllessFlorid3r
      @SkilllessFlorid3r Před 3 lety +47

      @@billedwardz But you have to mention that at the 3000 Ryzen release undervolting was completely broken.
      He was one of the first who discovered that, after a day the video was offline and he made a video what was wrong with undervolting. From then on everybody knew you have to performance verify core clocks even on CPUs.

  • @speedibusrex
    @speedibusrex Před 3 lety +536

    One of the best tech channels on YT.

    • @Dionyzos
      @Dionyzos Před 3 lety +25

      Definitely, he doesn’t sound like he wants to sell us something in order to grow his audience but really cares about delivering the best content possible.

    • @mcvit
      @mcvit Před 3 lety +2

      I remember the time when subscriptions were around 3.000, that was around when i joined. He defenitly earned it.

    • @awesomesaucer4128
      @awesomesaucer4128 Před 3 lety

      I concur

    • @manhealme
      @manhealme Před 3 lety

      @Dr Doom Skywalker yea your list is basically the same as me dude

    • @andyp123456
      @andyp123456 Před 3 lety

      I started watching the channel a year or two ago because I was interested in SFF builds, and Optimum Tech has the best SFF videos by far. I don't know if he has hired more people to help as the channel has grown, but even when it started, the lighting, editing, presentation and of course, the information presented were all on point, and yes, not putting his face (or biceps) in the thumbnail or using clickbait words in the title is worth some extra respect.

  • @Luke-fx9gw
    @Luke-fx9gw Před 3 lety +429

    5600x user here. Wasn't able to apply -30 to my chip without introducing instability in games soI dialed it back to -25 and it's been rock solid now for nearly a month both in games, when idle and during stress tests . My temps dropped by 10c and my multi core cinebench scores went up by roughly 200 points! Incredible

    • @f-22raptor25
      @f-22raptor25 Před 3 lety +3

      What was your stock voltage at

    • @fastboy32
      @fastboy32 Před 2 lety +2

      What's your voltage at???

    • @smokey_mk2
      @smokey_mk2 Před 2 lety +1

      Did you overclock it?

    • @SouvikAhmed
      @SouvikAhmed Před 2 lety +36

      5600x user here as well. I did a -20 on the curve optimizer and my core clock and scores on R20 went up. There was also a 5 degree celsius drop in temperature under max load.

    • @fastboy32
      @fastboy32 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SouvikAhmed thanks for the info

  • @JFinns
    @JFinns Před rokem +8

    Thanks for the bios walkthrough of PBO2. My 2 year old 5800X saved 20 watts of package power with much lower thermals, while still scoring 3% higher on Cinebench at 15,750. Wish I did this sooner.

  • @e_Moses
    @e_Moses Před 3 lety +570

    You went over the most important part of all of this in the video which is stability testing. The main issue that I found while trying out the curve optimiser is that even though you can test it each core individually or all cores at the same time with different stress testing programs this will can only guarantee stability during intensive workloads. Most of my crashes that I faced were while the PC was idling. I haven't found a consistent way of testing this aspect of the curve optimiser. I have checked reddit posts and different forums and I've seen people complaining about the same issue. The PC can be stable while running prime95 all night but it will crash while you just browse the web. I propose you do a followup video after you use the system for at least one week with the settings you showed and then report if the system was actually stable. Maybe even make a video that covers stability testing.

    • @Butanding
      @Butanding Před 3 lety +37

      My PC with a 5900x gets a blue screen at -27 while doing nothing.

    • @e_Moses
      @e_Moses Před 3 lety +50

      @RubiiX It doesn't test idle stability. I have tried running prime95, occt, cinebench for multiple hours and I can still just crash on the desktop while not doing much.

    • @Justathought81
      @Justathought81 Před 3 lety

      @RubiiX how do you set cinebench up to run for 30 mins ?

    • @Justathought81
      @Justathought81 Před 3 lety

      @RubiiX got it, is there any way to do similar in R15 tho?

    • @nicholash8021
      @nicholash8021 Před 3 lety +42

      At idle you're at the bottom of the curve and that voltage may be too low. Maybe there is minimum voltage setting to compensate while still being able to take advantage of the curve optimizer for higher voltage/frequencies.

  • @thedofflin
    @thedofflin Před 3 lety +459

    Yeah this is brilliant and seems like something a lot of proud overclockers would completely miss. After undervolting my 5600x by the max amount, and undervolting RTX 3080 to 0.85V @ 1875MHz I use a maximum of like 300-350W when playing games, not a single hitch. Crazy stuff. Combine that with Noctua cooler and case fans and my PC is almost dead quiet at full load, and generates a lot less heat.
    Undervolting all the way. So much more satisfying to have a highly efficient PC, rather than raging inferno just for a few more fps.

    • @maliikac95
      @maliikac95 Před rokem +6

      same with rtx 2070s and same cpu shaved of 10/18 c in most game under load wh3 warzone and rest crazy stuff

    • @SpiderpigThe
      @SpiderpigThe Před rokem +6

      What is your settings for 5600x?

    • @bootchoo96
      @bootchoo96 Před rokem +3

      Damn, my 3080 is 0.95v @ 1950Mhz and I can't go lower or I crash

    • @maliikac95
      @maliikac95 Před rokem +1

      @@SpiderpigThe turn of pbo that is all how i see lie, so much voltage and temp for nothing , just overclock manualy if you want i get it on 1.2v 4.5ghz under loads it get around 63-65 c with aio.

    • @ionutortian5885
      @ionutortian5885 Před rokem

      what value did you put -30 for all core or?

  • @ripleyhrgiger4669
    @ripleyhrgiger4669 Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant video! Your instructions are clear, well explained, and to the point without skipping important information. Subscribed!

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 Před 2 lety +14

    Thank you for this brilliant straight forward guide. I just got the 5600X and hope to run it cool, rather than max out the OC, this guide's perfect for my needs.

  • @MrPiousjew
    @MrPiousjew Před 3 lety +303

    easily the best ryzen undervolting guide I've seen, amazing content as always!

    • @Grena567
      @Grena567 Před 3 lety +18

      Stability isnt tested properly at all though in this video, the most important thing is testing at very LOW loads. These very low loads crash the system. How Ali does it in this vid, your pc will crash randomly while browsing or at the desktop.

    • @Helicrom
      @Helicrom Před 2 lety +3

      @@Grena567 yep, my 5600x was crashing randomly at desktop or in game lobby even at -15 or -20.

    • @priiintplayzz6219
      @priiintplayzz6219 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Helicrom what did you overcome the crashing ? What did you put for the pbo settings ?

    • @KarimTemple
      @KarimTemple Před 2 lety +9

      @@priiintplayzz6219 What I did, in short, was to go to per-core instead of all-cores. I'm doing -20 on 4 of the cores and -10 on the two cores that Windows seems to like the best (in my case, Cores 0 and 1 on my 5600X, checked using Ryzen Master). Idle testing consisted of doing nothing but leaving my PC on (running no active apps or tests), which I always do anyway. I probably could've gone back and pushed some cores to -25 or even -30 but I got bored.

    • @vacb
      @vacb Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@KarimTemple thanks for this my pc kept crashing

  • @nayanpitlam5621
    @nayanpitlam5621 Před 3 lety +6

    I was waiting a long time for your video on this
    Thanks a lot Ali !!

  • @user-fo1nk3pd1t
    @user-fo1nk3pd1t Před 2 lety

    I love how concise and clear this was to understand. Thanks!

  • @illuminape7632
    @illuminape7632 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I appreciate that your video isnt full of filler stammering, um's, uh's, redundantly repeating yourself here and there, very straight forward, to the point. Im so glad i found your channel, you got a subscribe from me.

  • @evanlamer2194
    @evanlamer2194 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for clearing this up. Great stuff man really appreciate this one!

  • @SocramZ
    @SocramZ Před 3 lety +14

    Amazing stuff. Now we need an Undervolt vs Overclock comparison. Would be the ultimate video!

    • @bumboclat
      @bumboclat Před 2 lety +1

      Curve optimizer does both, there is no versus situation here

  • @paulm2518
    @paulm2518 Před rokem +51

    This video still adding value. Just turned PBO2 on negative curve like the video suggests, managed to attain -30 first time. Can see all cores under 100% load hitting 4.3Ghz sustained with a vcore of 1.1875. Max temps were 66C on a 240 aio on a SFF case. Really cool, entire thing is a lot quieter now. Thank you!

    • @no-pz7xy
      @no-pz7xy Před rokem +3

      hey, that's awesome! what cpu? you can also see what you can do with PBO and CO in ryzen master. I get 66C under load on a 5900x hitting 4.6 all core.
      just let ryzen master auto CO all core for about an hour and you will get up to 28 depending on your cpu 30 all core is just not for everyone.

  • @LegitChillin420
    @LegitChillin420 Před 2 lety +28

    Amazing, can't believe I've slept on this extra performance for a year 🤣 got my 5900x paired with a msi b450m gaming plus motherboard running pbo 2 with curve optimizer at negative 25 with auto oc set to +200, Getting identical temps as before with 3-400 mhz improvement in clock speeds in single threaded workloads and in cinebench r23 multi core test it holds a solid 4.6ghz all cores. Thanks for this video! Highly appreciated!

    • @deepak00singh34
      @deepak00singh34 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Is that 5900x working fine with msi b450m gaming plus. That motherboard is cheap for 5900x. I'm also thinking to buy 5800x for my msi b450m m2 pro max. My motherboard is almost same price. When it available.

    • @LegitChillin420
      @LegitChillin420 Před 3 měsíci

      @@deepak00singh34it's still going strong!

    • @AllenMontenegro
      @AllenMontenegro Před 3 měsíci

      I have a 5900x and gigabyte b450 pro wifi. It's doable. @@deepak00singh34

  • @roberthelcher2884
    @roberthelcher2884 Před 3 lety +3

    I am looking forward to trying this on my 5900x when it finally comes in. Thanks again for the great content.

  • @kyesniper
    @kyesniper Před 3 lety +4

    Best guide so far, appreciate you mention the actual agesa version required. Don't think my board currently supports this as of yet so I've left the 5950x stock. Gets far too hot with PBO.

  • @techluvin7691
    @techluvin7691 Před rokem

    Simple, yet effective explanation. Good job. Best explanation I’ve seen with little useless information.

  • @MrBigAudi
    @MrBigAudi Před rokem

    Dude, every video you put out is well made, and it is also useful. Exceptional work.

  • @harishannamalai8669
    @harishannamalai8669 Před 3 lety +77

    The thumbnail of this video was more dope than what AMD themselves could do.
    The content was great too!

  • @10GreenDragon10
    @10GreenDragon10 Před 3 lety +4

    The perfect video I was waiting for as I'm using a MSI X570 board, thanks!

  • @idiot06
    @idiot06 Před 2 lety +5

    This has been a great guide helped me understand pbo and curve optimiser with my very first amd system i've ever built, came from a 9900k to a 5950x and mainly use my rig for gaming and have seen it do anywhere between 4750mhz to 4800mhz on majority of the cores, I am currently playing at 1440p and soon to be either 1440p ultrawide or 4k. Temps are a little higher in games and power compared to an all core clock at 4.6 but for the gained 200mhz they haven't gone up much, custom loop with liquid metal, open air test bench at the moment with the Evga X570 Dark until i get everything for the case i'm putting it in, ambient temperature varies between 14 degrees C and 24 as here in South East Queensland Australia it's getting towards winter. Thanks again Optimus Tech this video extremely helpful for someone just starting out with Ryzen :)

  • @nicholash8021
    @nicholash8021 Před 3 lety +15

    Very helpful video. With my 5600x I didn't try this but had pretty good results with a PBO of 200MHz. The same setting didn't help my 5900x much, but this -30 offset worked like a charm. My Passmark rating single thread went from ~3500 to 3670 and my overall CPU rating went from ~40000 to ~42500.

  • @bengordon2330
    @bengordon2330 Před 3 lety +14

    Thank you ! I tried on my 5800x, honestly, I had minor issues and higher temps than using stock, but maybe down the line some tweaking will happen

  • @misiekki
    @misiekki Před 3 lety +18

    Hi Ali! Quick question. What software are you using to create temperature, frequency and all other amazing charts? :)

  • @bradyb2233
    @bradyb2233 Před 2 lety +4

    Bro I literally just copy and pasted this into my bios, and it literally worked first try. I have a 5800x. Went from 4,499 MHz to 4600 MHz and it went from 87c max to 85c. This is insanely easy and insanely effective. I’m for sure subbing for this video. So easy to follow

  • @marvin8291
    @marvin8291 Před rokem +2

    My 5900x with a negative offset of 12 works stable at around 77°C in Cinebench. Before that I got peaks on some cores to almost 90. Thank you so much! Trying to get a bit lower for even more efficiency.

  • @SHOEB289
    @SHOEB289 Před 3 lety +4

    Enjoying the content VERY MUCH 😊😊 ALI!!

  • @Squinoogle
    @Squinoogle Před 3 lety +35

    Absolutely spot on! This is a feature that is truly worthy of a "finally" :o But still, Curve Optimizer seems like a solution to a problem that shouldn't really exist.
    I got impatient trying to get a hold of a 5000 series and went for a good deal on a 3800XT, and I've been playing around trying to tame the ridiculous voltage it uses at default. PB does a good job of clocking up, but shoots itself in the foot with the voltage. Temperatures aren't an issue, as my loop is complete overkill, but it keeps sending CPU power into the red. PBO aactually gives worse performance, as, for some reason, it boosts 100MHz lower than default. Auto-overclocking is pointless for the same reasons, there's no point in raising the limits if it isn't hitting any of them.
    Then, I fell into the same trap as the 1V guy, "lets stick an ofset on and see what happens." I dialed in 250mV and it was looking good: immediately dropped 20W from CPU, clocks boosted better than ever. Then R23 finished and only gave 10k, instead of 12k... After a few more runs, I noticed the Core VID was higher than it should be, and HWiNFO64 was showing the "Effective Clock" as only about 3600MHz, even though the "Clock" was a good 4500/4600ish. Clearly the motherboard's idea of "Core Voltage" is different to AMD's.
    Dialing in a fixed frequency and voltage still seems like the only way to go for 3000 series. I've dialed in 4200MHz at 1.2V and it seems happy enough. Lots of tweaking still to be done, though.

  • @albiss1164
    @albiss1164 Před 3 lety +2

    WOW !!!
    Thank you very much for sharing this. And you did a very good job at clearly explaining and making it easy to understand, with no nonsense.
    The overclock may not be huge, but the temperature drop is significant.
    Can't wait to give this a try :)

  • @ThaLoinKing
    @ThaLoinKing Před rokem

    I needed this ! Thanks so much bro, you for sure know what ur doing

  • @bvbbolle
    @bvbbolle Před 3 lety +34

    Nice, tried it out on 5950x, the -12 same as the video. 3Dmark score went up a bit, boost clock made it to 5053 instead of 5040, and slighty lower thermals and power draw. Nothing major but certainly a nice improvement. Thanks!

    • @Walhor
      @Walhor Před rokem +1

      Has there been any stability issues or anything since then?

  • @Studijko
    @Studijko Před 3 lety +42

    B450 also supported! Works great with Asus b450m tuf beta bios with agesa 1.2.0.0 and ryzen 5600x. With a value of -20 I get stable improvement of about 5%. Value of -30 not stable though. You can find the setting in Advanced / Amd overclocking / PBO / Curve optimiser

  • @fabog.5575
    @fabog.5575 Před rokem +1

    Thx for this video... I was desperate to handle the temperature although I have a msi 360 AIO... Glad I have seen this video.... Now running about rock solid 80 degrees

  • @nubsandbolts920
    @nubsandbolts920 Před rokem

    My G. Thank you for simplying this for me for now. I just finished my build and got a free upgrade from a Ryzen 7 5800 X to a 9 5950x. Yes my multicore performance increase was obv. amazing though single core score not as much.(as it could be). I have 4 cores peaking at 4.999 @ 38.4-72C (warm day). I may have only gained a slight 0.45 MP Ratio in Cin3R23 with my 4 cores now hitting 5049 MHz but my thermals are no longer touching 67c under load.
    This is a great stopgap so I can move the F on until I can learn more.

  • @towb0at
    @towb0at Před 3 lety +50

    This is really nice! This should be a feature where you can essentially do this with the push of a button. Imagine an
    optimized CPU profile that automatically undervolts with PBO2. Just like the XMP profile, you would just set it once and then forget about it.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před 2 lety +13

      This used to be a thing computers had back in the 80s and 90s,a "turbo" button right on the front of the case,which sounds like it would make it go faster but was actually to slow it down because the regular speed was too fast for older software to work right.

  • @belema22
    @belema22 Před 3 lety +121

    Absolute champ, I've watched almost every video and learnt so much from you! You walked me through my NZXT H1 build, undervolting my 5700XT, justified my already purchased EVGA 3060ti XC and now this. 🙂

    • @subrezon
      @subrezon Před 3 lety +21

      Why would you replace a 5700XT with a 3060 Ti? I'm not bashing or hating, it just genuinely interests me. Those two aren't too far apart in terms of performance, or at least not enough apart to justify spending $400+. Or have you sold/found another use for the 5700XT?

    • @luca1s
      @luca1s Před 3 lety +2

      @@subrezon probably sold it or got rid of it, maybe cuz of driver issues?

    • @ahmad.dx1115
      @ahmad.dx1115 Před 3 lety +3

      @@subrezon in my opinion, definitely for RTX😭.

    • @belema22
      @belema22 Před 3 lety +1

      @@subrezon @Subrezon yeah that's a good question. I video edit and I wanted to try try an Nvidia card for the GPU accelaration and I have to say it's been a pretty good. I game as well and I'm planning to use the 5700XT and my 3600 from my H1 in my new HTPC. What's interrsting though is in Australia, my gaming OC 5700XT is going for 550 - 600 on ebay and I bought it for 670! Tempted to sell it...

    • @bobtyler8374
      @bobtyler8374 Před 3 lety +2

      @@subrezon In my expericence the 5700xt drivers are just garbage and slipping over to the 3060ti is reasonable, especially when u can take advantage of tay tracing

  • @ronnie3626
    @ronnie3626 Před 3 lety +15

    i am really impressed with the quality you deliver and how clearly you explain everything! Definitely one of the best tech channels (also for mini itx build and in general)! Thank you so much for all your efforts!
    EDIT: corrected typo

    • @DogeFrom2014
      @DogeFrom2014 Před rokem

      It's no wonder this video has over 750K views

    • @ronnie3626
      @ronnie3626 Před rokem

      @@DogeFrom2014 best name haha

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Před rokem

      hm the second one are the true second place imo, theyre far from rest but far from gr7 as well, sound identical to the creative
      prob the only true 'gift' from manufacturer lol they just gave wo any effort, used them well before 'recall'

  • @user-nu9iz7oc4c
    @user-nu9iz7oc4c Před 2 lety

    Very well narrated and explained. Many thanks!!!

  • @ibaneez1
    @ibaneez1 Před 3 lety +10

    Still running a undervolted I7-7700k after watching your video. Helped a ton! Also undervolting my 3060 ti.
    Love your videos!

    • @userworx
      @userworx Před 3 lety

      Hey, help with guide for undervolted i7700k. Thanks :)

    • @ibaneez1
      @ibaneez1 Před 3 lety

      @@userworx Look up his video named "Should You Undervolt Your CPU?". It's not a guide, but gives you some estimates for what you can expect. Every CPU behaves differently. Silicone lottery.

    • @saimamerzougui7981
      @saimamerzougui7981 Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/Y7Za2aq2X9E/video.html

  • @vintage0x
    @vintage0x Před 3 lety +13

    this is a great channel for a) SFF pc builds and b) undervolting your shit. love you ali!

  • @giorgos1996PC
    @giorgos1996PC Před rokem +1

    Just did that with my 5700x and an AsRock B450 fatality k4 gaming motherboard (ofc updated bios ) thanks amd asrock for the support, got that motherboard through 3cpus.And ofc thank u for your helpful video dude u rock,your graphs your quality in videos everything are top notch.Greetings from Greece buddy.

  • @Dmitrinr
    @Dmitrinr Před rokem +1

    Thanks you for this video! I was getting extremely high temps with my 5700x with ambient temperature of around 27c, after setting an undervolt of -.1,5 it went from that to 69c under full load

  • @zaidyounas1602
    @zaidyounas1602 Před 3 lety +5

    Simple, concise yet effective explanation which actually works in real life. Best channel ever

  • @hughw.
    @hughw. Před 3 lety +30

    This guy is excellent! Composure, kind, knowledgeable, in formed, unbiased and very helpful.👍🥇

  • @tcares20
    @tcares20 Před 2 lety +10

    I had to adjust my fan curves to account for lower cpu temps for my build because the undervolt worked too well and my GPU wasn’t getting enough air. So yeah, it’s definitely worth

    • @user-dk4yz6lf9m
      @user-dk4yz6lf9m Před 5 měsíci

      I wouldn‘t use Cpu Temp to Regulate case fans. There are several programd to use gpu temp to lower or boost up case fans

  • @AB-jt6ic
    @AB-jt6ic Před 3 lety

    Thank you for posting this! I'm trying to get my new 5950 dialed in, and it's been quite a few years since I've upgraded...

  • @theodorthiele
    @theodorthiele Před 3 lety +26

    Hey, thanks for this guide. I've been looking at some other guides too, and found some different / other approaches, but yours netted the best results it seemed. My main concern which was highlighted by some people on these undervolt tweaks, is stability at low workloads (low speed, low core use, low voltage). Apparently when undervolting using the PBO2 the issue is not so much staying stable at high workloads whether single or multi-threaded, but the other end where e.g. a -30 might cause instability. The issue is that I haven't been able to find a solid way of testing this kind of stability - I did see some mention of using the windows repair flow, but that's quite a hassle to trigger, and I'm uncertain if it's ensuring full stability. Did you find a good way of testing low load stability?
    In addition, a lot of other users took a different approach where the set PBO limits to motherboard, then set a boost override (+200 ish), and then apply negative values per core, with the lower values being on the two best performing cores, and a much less aggressive undervolt on all the other cores (I think something like -15 on best cores and -5 on other cores on a 59000x).
    Did you try anything like that too? I guess some of the temp benefits are lost.
    For now I'll go with your approach unless I run into any sort of instability - but would love to hear whether you tried some of these approaches that most other people seemed to take, and whether they'd change your recommendations.
    This guide seems to fit the "typical" approach I've seen other places: www.anandtech.com/show/16267/amd-precision-boost-overdrive-2-adaptive-undervolting-for-ryzen-5000-coming-soon

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 Před rokem

      This is the first guide that said to disable PBO which confused me but I've seen lots of good comments so I'll try it now.

  • @weblurker-stuffifoundonthe6208

    Man I love how power efficient ryzens performance is

    • @SaltyMaud
      @SaltyMaud Před 3 lety +3

      Zen 3 is pretty nice in all regards. Though at this point i'm already looking forward to alder lake and the implementation of big.LITTLE on a desktop x86 CPU, that should be interesting.

    • @monkfishy6348
      @monkfishy6348 Před 3 lety +2

      @@SaltyMaud It'll be shit. The only reason they are doing it is so they can claim to have X amount of Cores in their marketing, when in reality half the cores will be garbage and won't have hyperthreading, because they can't squeeze any more "real" cores onto their 14nm process.

    • @SaltyMaud
      @SaltyMaud Před 3 lety +3

      ​@@monkfishy6348 Well, it sounds pretty good to me. It's a pretty smart compromise, having a limited number of high performance cores allows, in theory, you to push more speed out of them within thermal and power limitations. Additional LP cores benefit efficiency in light use and you can think the additional threads they provide for thread hungry applications as a free bonus. Best of all worlds. No compromises on single thread performance, improved efficiency, additional threads without bloating the power envelope. It's not a novel idea, it's about time it was utilized in desktop CPUs. How it turns out in practice remains to be seen, but the way i see it, this has the potential to be the greatest paradigm shift since the introduction of multicore CPUs.
      For huge CPU farm applications and the people who legitimately have good use for the xeons and threadrippers, this may not be it. But for the majority of consumers this is very interesting indeed.

  • @francescob.3019
    @francescob.3019 Před 3 lety +1

    just bought one. Thanks for this video!

  • @chrisb2153
    @chrisb2153 Před 3 lety

    that bed track was grooving. Great vid too! just about to build my 5950x system

  • @peinall6964
    @peinall6964 Před rokem +3

    Got My Ryzen 5 5600x 2 months ago and Man i loved it ! And soon after i came across this video i tried it and i got +300 Points in cinebench r20 and better cooling . Thank you for this amazing video and love your content bro

  • @gamingscreen12
    @gamingscreen12 Před 3 lety +4

    Best PBO2 tutorial I've ever seen. Thank you.

  • @Mikhavoc
    @Mikhavoc Před 18 dny

    i've come back to this video about five times as i've swapped mobos/updated bios. thanks very much for this one mate

  • @theentity6000
    @theentity6000 Před 2 lety

    probably the best tip I've ever got regarding my processor...high performance without any drawbacks... literally free performance...thanks a lot mate!

  • @richard343s
    @richard343s Před 3 lety +6

    It would be interesting to see a comparison of PBO2 vs. PBO2 + Undervolt

  • @thacrunch7094
    @thacrunch7094 Před 3 lety +3

    I love the content! Keep it up!

  • @Natedaskate
    @Natedaskate Před 3 lety

    Mate, took me 3 months waiting but my 5900X finally arrived from PCCaseGear. It’s a hot CPU. I have 2 x EK Coolstream 360 XE rads with Vardar fans cooling the 5900X and a RTX3090. GPU idles at 23 and max of 50-52 at full load.
    The 5900X idled at about 40 and max of 75 in Aida64 for an hour. Not maxed but still very warm for such a cooling loop.
    I used your exact settings in my MSI Bios and I get higher clocks, less max power draw, and max temps of 61 degrees. Idle is still warm but max is great now.
    You’re a legend. I love you videos. Wish I had the patience and skill to make the builds you do. Thanks for all you do 👍🏻

  • @ivanrakov7245
    @ivanrakov7245 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks man. negative 25 on my 5800x got me boosting between at 4.7-4.8GHz and staying at around 75 degrees max. Up from what my board was doing stock at 4.6 and 80-85 degrees

  • @Gamerunner30
    @Gamerunner30 Před 3 lety +4

    Worked like a charm. I was able to get the max value of 30 on my 5800x and msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi. Improved my cinebench r23 score by 4% with lower temps and higher clocks than stock

    • @alexandruilea915
      @alexandruilea915 Před 2 lety

      Any instability issue? I just tried this on my 5600x and at -30 it crashed after 2-3 minuts. Trying -25 now with 10 threads loaded, will see in 12 hours I guess.

  • @NickGuzelian
    @NickGuzelian Před rokem +3

    This is awesome, and shoutout to Asrock for bringing this to their b450 gaming k4, to my surprise, the option was there!

  • @alexfleener
    @alexfleener Před 3 lety +1

    On AMD 5950x, MSI Prestige X570 Creation, G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 16GB 3800 CAS14. I was able to get "All core curve Opt. Mag." set to 24 and received 10134 on Cinebench R20. Thank you so much! Excellent video.

  • @SebastianDiLuise
    @SebastianDiLuise Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks man, 10c less temperature with a -20 value curve optimizer, could not notice any performance problem.

  • @copypaste3526
    @copypaste3526 Před 3 lety +3

    I am finding the Auto OC option in Ryzen Master pretty sweet for baking with flip fluids. Only a bit salty that I was too late for a 5900x instead of the 5800x.

  • @vollegaming8818
    @vollegaming8818 Před 3 lety +3

    great vid. did the underclocking. just what i need :D

  • @sirius6beta
    @sirius6beta Před 3 lety

    Well done, good job - appreciated and will be recommended.

  • @bryanaustin8362
    @bryanaustin8362 Před 3 lety +1

    Good to show people your ambient room temp, this is always forgotten when people compare results.

  • @BAdventures
    @BAdventures Před 2 lety +3

    Outstanding tutorial and report. Appreciate you making such a polished presentation. 👍
    PS 5800X owners have reported overheating issues. That CPU would probably benefit most from this.

  • @Kaboomnz
    @Kaboomnz Před 2 lety +3

    This dropped my 5900X idle temps by 6c, absolutely awesome thank you!

    • @fdlcflo1935
      @fdlcflo1935 Před 2 lety

      Hi what value did u use in curve optimizer magnitude ? 30 ? Thanks

    • @Kaboomnz
      @Kaboomnz Před 2 lety +2

      @@fdlcflo1935 18, it'll be different for every chip

  • @steelfalconx2000
    @steelfalconx2000 Před 8 měsíci

    Man this channel is super underrated. What great content.

  • @mirage8753
    @mirage8753 Před 2 lety

    your graphs looks cool, very nice color selection

  • @dingleberrydan
    @dingleberrydan Před 3 měsíci +4

    5600X with a -30 offset, Arctic 240 aio, and 4400mhz Ballistix is scoring a 4610 in CB20. Maintaining a 4.6Ghz core clock while not going above 55c. 3 years later this thing is still holding strong at an insanenly low price.

  • @antonpoddubnov4651
    @antonpoddubnov4651 Před 3 lety +14

    Was able to set negative 30 on my 5800X and got a big performance boost out of nowhere.
    I can’t thank you enough for such a useful info!

    • @chrissmith8242
      @chrissmith8242 Před 3 lety +3

      Антон Поддубнов I couldn’t keep 30 negative magnitude. I had to set mine to 25. Probably due to the mother boards. Each one delivers power a little differently. I was able to get some serious gains though. Glad you also had a similar performance boost.

    • @antonpoddubnov4651
      @antonpoddubnov4651 Před 3 lety +3

      @@chrissmith8242 Thanks! After thorough testing I also had to dial it back to 26 for a concrete stability. Anyway - the performance gain us huge!

    • @johannestheil652
      @johannestheil652 Před 3 lety

      Is it stable in time spy physics test?

    • @antonpoddubnov4651
      @antonpoddubnov4651 Před 3 lety +1

      @@johannestheil652 yes, of-course. It’s rock solid everywhere.

    • @johannestheil652
      @johannestheil652 Před 3 lety

      @@antonpoddubnov4651 lucky guy, it doesnt work for me sadly. Which kind of ram do you use and how many ram bars?

  • @user-cd9yx5df6d
    @user-cd9yx5df6d Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks for this guide. I managed to lower my temperatures on Ryzen 7 5700x on B450 TOMAHAWS MAX board from MSI. Idle temps are -5°C. I tested temps on Cinebech R23. All core load temps are -8°C and plus 1100 points! Single core is -7°C.

  • @stormchaser12345
    @stormchaser12345 Před 2 lety +1

    I honestly didn't believe this would work BUT I saw performance increase of around 1000 on CPU-Z when undervolting to -30. Thank you for posting this!

  • @crazybiscut
    @crazybiscut Před 3 lety +44

    Undervolting probably also helped with his gains.

  • @werther5952
    @werther5952 Před 3 lety +22

    Just casually sprinkling 3080 FEs all over the place for window dressing. We've all been flexed on

  • @TeeeTooo2008
    @TeeeTooo2008 Před 2 lety

    follow your gide. feeling much happier with the lower temperature (-10c).
    and my CINEBENCH score got even slightly higher.
    ur the best. thanks alot

  • @chewchoo6866
    @chewchoo6866 Před 3 lety

    Just got a 5900x, now they're becoming available in aus again. Gave this a shot(-30 on all cores), fantastic results!!

  • @bloodreaverrakin6554
    @bloodreaverrakin6554 Před 3 lety +3

    Tnx a lot mann. it helped with my 5800x at -25. and its stable... love you

    • @Scott_800
      @Scott_800 Před 2 lety

      Are you still running this? Might give it a go

  • @Sayakvids
    @Sayakvids Před 2 lety +13

    wow this guide is great, trying this out on my 5800x to lower the temps and temps dropped about 7-8 celcius without any dip in my cinebench r20 score. thanks a lot

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO Před 2 lety +1

      How many counts were you able to do? Gonna try it on my 5800x as well.

    • @Sayakvids
      @Sayakvids Před 2 lety

      @@RafitoOoO hi sorry for the late reply but my score on r20 was 6k

  • @piers389
    @piers389 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for such a clear explanation about PBO2. I've just come from 10+ years of Intel processors to a 5900X and found the advice from other places was to increase all sorts of limits which resulted in high thermals when doing pretty much anything (and low performance). This method (keeping power limits at stock), along with your explanation makes much more sense.

  • @siammostafa2009
    @siammostafa2009 Před 11 měsíci

    A simple undervolt increase permormance. Decrease power draw and temps which is amazing. Good Job Ali

  • @Primeyy
    @Primeyy Před 3 lety +53

    Finally a guide about the amd curve optimizer. This feature came out months ago yet I had a hard time finding anything about it. Even AMD has no official documentation about it.
    I've been wondering how to use it. Thanks Optimum Tech

  • @Dogwater420
    @Dogwater420 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you for this amazing Video! Although im very interested in Just overclocking with PBO2, without undervolting aswell, does anyone know good recources on that? Cheers

  • @Rei-bg3rf
    @Rei-bg3rf Před rokem

    Thx for the tips mann. I can't believe this reduce my cpu temp by like 8-10c while using stress test mind you.

  • @lawnica1
    @lawnica1 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video! Just got my cinebench SC score to 1652 with a Ryzen 7 5800x. I’m pumped to do more testing and make sure it is an improvement in all conditions and stable.

    • @CommonSkill
      @CommonSkill Před 2 lety

      How did it go? I just built a PC with a 5800x in it and will experiment with undervolting myself.

    • @lawnica1
      @lawnica1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CommonSkill I’ve undervolted four 5800x’s at this point for myself and coworkers. All went pretty well. It’s annoying that you don’t know if you went to far until the pc randomly shuts off while in a low power state. I definitely recommend Ryzen Master to figure out the best 2 cores. They can’t be undervolted as much as the other cores so keep that in mind. It’s all pretty straightforward. Just a lot of trial and error. This video says to set the power usage for PBO to the stock settings, but in my experience the motherboard setting worked better on asus motherboards. Good luck!

  • @AndyU96
    @AndyU96 Před 3 lety +4

    It may not have yielded better performance in gaming, but the higher clock frequencies should definitely provide better performance in emulation.

  • @jabuki2
    @jabuki2 Před 3 lety +38

    great video. This gives a noticeable increase in 5600x CPU frequency. Which in turn gives much better gaming minimum framerates and framerate consistency. This is probably the most important factor for gaming and not max framerate.

    • @thatsreallyamoon
      @thatsreallyamoon Před rokem

      What values did you use and have you had any issues since

    • @enessengul219
      @enessengul219 Před rokem

      Is your system stable?

    • @bryanjayjuco8424
      @bryanjayjuco8424 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@enessengul219-30 curve stablo may 5600x temps drop to 10c amwzing

    • @bryanjayjuco8424
      @bryanjayjuco8424 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@thatsreallyamoon-30.for me 5600x still stable

  • @karldersoose7224
    @karldersoose7224 Před rokem +2

    Thanks! This works on my old 2017 Asus B350 Prime + Ryzen 5700X too (With the latest bios Update) 🥳🥳🥳

  • @gabriellakotainegabor1902

    I never understood this before, thanks to your video it is clear now!

  • @randomname5585
    @randomname5585 Před 3 lety +3

    Wow!
    I was having high temps on my airflow restricted case with the stock cooler on my 5600X
    Temps were reaching 86C after three Cinebench runs with average score of 10835.
    After undervolting using my Asrock b550 phantom gaming 4 ac BIOS and doing the same Cinebench test.
    Temps maxed at 77 after the three runs with an average score of 11250!! Incredible. Thank you man!

  • @TRez5000
    @TRez5000 Před 3 lety +4

    Appreciate the guide. Unfortunately, my 5900x didn't do as well as yours. At negative offset 20 it would pass torture tests but consistently crash in gaming. Dropped it to 10 and it reduced the crashes but they would still occasionally happen. Turned off the offset and have had zero crashes in the past week.

    • @AquaStevae
      @AquaStevae Před rokem

      What is your best CB R23 score??? OCCT score???

  • @fatzz5800
    @fatzz5800 Před 2 lety

    Thanks man for the detailed video.

  • @Richard-ch5vr
    @Richard-ch5vr Před 3 lety

    Just got my 5900x I will give it a go thanks for a straight forward easy to understand tutorial thanks again.