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99% of rawaccel users stop just before they find their perfect curve
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@@NVGGETMXNE 99.5%
mouse accelleration OCD
They probably found the best curve for them - constant line.
Not me thinking that mouse acceleration is the reason for my bad aim, only to find out that it was never on😓
I had the opposite issue, I just assumed it was off by default for years and just discovered it was on five minutes ago...
@@Snuffflux dont worry, that windows setting doesn't affect your input in majority of today's games at all, because they typically use raw/direct input
@@patryk6492 I figured that was the case since I noticed that as an option in most games. Besides that though, browsing on my desktop feels a lot better now.
@@patryk6492 Yeah it hasn't been a problem for competitive shooters since basically the original Half-Life/Counter-Strike
@@Snuffflux Almost all FPS games use "raw mouse" input so only driver-level accel like RawAccel will have any impact. Though non FPS games like Mobas and potentially in-game menus may be impacted by the windows precision setting.
I tried this myself over a two-week period. I share the same sentiments especially with the first portion of your movement being accelerated. I went with "jump" first then "motivity" just like you. My conclusion was that its effectiveness depends a lot on the game you play. In a game like CS2 I found it to be generally worse for me overall.
i remember your tweets about the program. i tried it right after and have used it ever since.
Thanks for your comment. I was literally thinking about cs2, being a game where it wouldn't be needed, unless you're a awper. 😊
it takes more than 2 weeks to master something new especially if you spend years or decades training for the opposite.
ive been playing using acceleration for about 25 years and ignored the so-called advice. its fine. ive been called a cheater for longer than i can remember.
the real reason i use it though is comfort, same reason why it's nice on the desktop too. it allows you to have the same range of motion for small and large adjustments so you do not need repeated large arm movements or huge desks.
i dont think that people who played on fixed sens for decades should learn accel, itll take a year at least to really get used to it and youll probably still have some muscle memory kick in from time to time.
no shit it will be worse in cs2 cause cs2 isnt a dynamic game atleast. i think in apex or overwatch its op if u master it
there are some pros who use mouse accel. But that's just an exception to the norm. I'd say just use what you're used to.
4:25 This can be alleviated on any type of curve which provides you the "offset" option, meaning whatever value you provide the offset, your entire curve will shift that direction to the right. This gives you a "safe" amount of movement space for micros on your actual sens before accel actually kicks in
6:17 you wrote the comment without any more context, didn't you?
@@The-lr4zo That's not the offset provided on most curve options in rawaccel (not just motivity)... Who is the one lacking context...
Wasn't expecting to see my vid mentioned here, thanks so much for the shoutout!!
it was rly interesting seeing ur thoughts on accel but especially your breakdown of each accel curve, doubly so since we seemed to settle on similar options. I struggled to adjust to super harsh "jump" curves and motivity felt the most intuitive for me as well but I still ended up preferring no accel. I'd be curious to see if you run into the same roadblock I did with it if you end up sticking with it long term, but I agree that it's something that there's no reason not to at least try out :D
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Multi-year aim accel user here. You hit the nail on the head with this video. Aim accel is an awesome tool with lots of potential and a versatility that can be applied to many different aiming scenarios. A few months ago, after seeing Viscose's video on why they stopped using it, I decided to give it a try. I've really enjoyed playing on a static sensitivity again, but my journey as a mechanical player has been greatly impacted for the better by the years I spent playing with aim acceleration. For anyone who hasn't tried it, I'd highly recommend giving it a shot. Challenge your aim, get out of your comfort zone, master different kinds of aiming across different sensitivities and scenarios, and use sensitivity as the tool that it is, switching it up to best suit the requirements of a situation.
because you seem to have alot of experience i got a question. i am roughly 6 weeks into mnk and gave raw accel a try but then i have seen alot of comments over multiple platforms that smaller movements and especially tracking (fast) targets gets alot worse. is that true or do people that say stuff like that just have wrong settings?
@@neednosoul9622Tracking fast targets is definitely where you start to run into a limitation of aim accel. I think you can make things easier by having a cap on the amount of acceleration that can be applied and changing when it kicks in. When tracking fast targets, I was close to the high end of my accel curve, so my sensitivity didn’t vary too harshly in those situations. If you haven’t seen viscose’s video on this topic, I’d highly recommend it. She highlights some of the limitations of using accel over a long period of time, and one of them is what you’ve mentioned. I wouldn’t describe accel making anything “a lot” worse. Its limitations show up in more subtle ways when you’ve been using it for a while and your curve feels intuitive.
The thing, that sense of acceleration and momentum is actually very normal in life. We don't always turn around like robots. Sometimes we swing or move very dynamically as well. Mouse accel employs those feelings very well imo. Can make a game feel very amazing as well.
You almost type like its AI generated
@@cryonim Yes because people are actively trying to push a pro-mouse acceleration agenda 🙄WE SEE THROUGH YOUR LIES BIG MOUSE ACCELERATION CORPORATIONS
I'd recommend checking out the linear curve with an offset. I found it significantly easier to commit to muscle memory since you're either at your base sens, increasing linearly, or at your max sens.
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There's this component on Linux called "libinput" that handles most peripheral input (as the name would suggest). They care a *lot* about this stuff, and have a system that automatically gives mice different acceleration profiles than trackpads, and also compensates for DPI in acceleration profiles automatically. It's really cool stuff.
libinput is the reason why most gamers wont switch to linux
@@RealMilkMan255 you can switch off libinput's acceleration with two lines of command in the terminal. If you can't use the terminal, don't switch to Linux pls.
@@szhadjii8363 @RealMilkMan255 You can disable acceleration in the settings app of most distros. No terminal needed
People can learn? Not everyone is using something like arch. It ain't that hard.
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Fascinating. Looking forward to a follow-up to see if you stick with it!
Viscose getting mad respect from so many CZcamsrs is awesome. W
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I've been playing FPS a long time and always played with no accel. Saw your video yesterday and went straight into trying your 1.3 motivity settings.. Didn't even have to really get used to it, felt very intuitive almost immediately and made me so much more dynamic. Can't believe mouse accel is good.
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been using accel for almost 5 years now, with my latest curve being under development for the past 17 months. This thing takes time, and lots of adjustments based on goal, deviation, grip, weight, friction, motion-sync and body energy of that day.
The number one suggestion I could give is to only change settings on a cold-start (first time of the day you sit at your pc, within the first 15-30 minutes of opening overwatch). Also, don't fear turning off any cap, yes it might sound scary at first coming from a static sens, but your brain compensate for that. Learnt this too many years into it....
Great timing with this video, i've been struggling since switching to a Beast X and a smaller mousemat and the sense I want to use as I don't have enough room to 180... i'll be trying this out over the weekend to see if I can dial it in
Your method for calculating lower sensitivity and higher sensitivity helped a lot, I am now not using Raw Accel randomly like I did before; I'm using it with intention.
Reminds me of when I was on controller and got the elite series 2 controller for my series x. There were like 5 different setting for the joystick curves which was awesome, but it was so difficult and time consuming trying to pick the one that was best for me. Definitely took a lot of focus away from more important aspects of the game for a good amount of time like you mentioned
I've been using acceleration for 2.5 years now. When I started out with acceleration I was also experimenting with Motivity like curves, before quickly feeling out that it felt wrong because of that resistance when starting and ending movement that Viscose described. I ended up settling on a completely linear 0.005 acceleration curve with no input/ cap offsets (a straight diagonal line on the graph), I've been playing with the same curve all this time and I find this the most natural and intuitive setting because it is directly a 1:1 acceleration based on the velocity of the mouse with no training wheels or stop gaps that would limit your potential for improvement. It took a while to get used to and is going to take a while before I fully master it, but I don't have the desire to return to no acceleration because of how much flexibility acceleration offers and how natural it feels.
I'd give linear a proper shot at some point but to me it felt purposeless the first time i tried it. Motivity on the other hand felt very good in Apex to look around faster and have it slow down when shooting.
@@Divinity_vA the problem imo is motivity is unnecessarily strong, it gives a strong first impression of mouse acceleration because of the really fast general movement speed in combination with a really strong slowdown of aim, but it’s not granular enough for aiming in every scenario due to the nature of the curve, it’s like a smooth jump curve, you practically either have fast movement or slow aim. With enough practice you’ll be able to push a linear curve to get the same benefits of acceleration while feeling like you have proper control of the acceleration. The dynamic curves just don’t make sense with the dynamic movement of a mouse imo, it does make sense with the linear motion of a controller stick though.
THIS!!! Is exatly what I needed! I have been switching between high and low sens for years, based on "mood". Picking between good 180 capabilities and solid, smooth one-taps.
For me jump feels so good.
Great video, great SW. Thanks.
Nice video! I've been using Raw Accel for quite a while, but I've stopped playing FPS games so it's really more about comfort for me
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the thing that i love about mouse acceleration is, especially for me who use high edpi are when we trying to do micro adjustment it just feel nicer to not shaking your aim while doing it
I usually enjoy all of your vids always just quality content and no bs. But this blew my mind, i started with the motivity curve an tuned it a little bit and played with the dpi settings and after 3 or 4 days my aim was far better than before. I usually dont win the gunfights at closerange but can hit my snipes. Now it feels far more natural at any range and flicking and tracking is now much more consistent. Before I constantly adjusted my sense and it never felt quite right. Thank you so much and keep up the exelent work.
regarding the acceleration being too fast at the start of curve, most of the curves support setting an "input offset" that will essentially push the start of the curve to the right.
So you can have some amount of initial movement where no acceleration happens.
this is really useful on a glass pad btw, sometimes clicking at the wrong angle moves my mouse ever so slightly, this helps a lot
for the past year my rawaccel settings are
(DPI 3200)
sens multiplier: .1
curve type: natural
decay rate: .1
input offset: 1
limit: 3.1
the mistake i think most people make when trying it out is being too aggressive with the values. it works best when it's gentle. also if you do try it, you need to give it time either to get used to it or, as i did, to fine-tune it to where it feels natural without needing to get used to it. i only play CS by the way so it's not true that it's not worth it for some games.
It seems you didn't put your actual in-game sensitivity for whichever game or better yet your cm/360°, could you please put one of the two? I would like to try out your curve just for fun and curiosity :D
Nice timing on shouting out Viscose, I just subbed them two days ago.
as usual an awesome and well researched video, love your content!
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HELL YEAH! I love deep dives into mouse acceleration and its value proposition and trade offs
There are a couple really good videos by @Pinguefy about raw accel :)
Deep dives? He didn't describe ANYTHING in depth. Did he illustrate what gain is for? How to use lookup table? Did he give links to discord servers dedicated for that software? He did nothing else than jump on a hypetrain and view milked the topic without any particular insight. There are far more resourceful channels/people covering acceleration's capabilities. But instead he chose to mention a cc with opinion bias, because the kovaaks score with accel differed by 0.00000000000000001 from original high scores without accel.
@@mioszk.8759 What? Pinguefy does the opposite of jump on a hype train. There was no mainstream recognition of mouse accel or aim training when he executed his videos, in fact you can probably give him credit in creating hype on these "hype trains". And you don't need to jump in depth into accel to describe what it does, it's just a curve and everyone can find their own preference with a bit of experimenting.
@@Ruicyte I was referring to optimum's approach, since I was commenting on the original post. If you were to read my comment thoroughly, you'd have known I'm referring to optimum.
@@mioszk.8759 chill man it's just an intro to mouse accel which is mostly preference anyway, look at how many people in the comments are giving it a try. There is no best curve and everyone finds their own through experimentation, which is what he showcased in the vid.
Optimum, top-notch video as always expected! With your game skills, you should look into streaming! Glad you mentioned Viscose's take on aim accel like the gaming DD God you are! Cheers!
Great video man! Gorgeous quality and I actually learned something. I've installed Raw Accel, gonna see how it really feels for myself (It might actually help with my shitty aim).
Back in the old days of arena shooters like quake3, mouse accel was quite common. I used it myself for many years, but like many after long time i switched to linear sensitivity in the end.
Is that because you simply couldn't use it in other games?
@@joel6376 nah, back in the old days mice were pretty bad i guess, and accel in some way compensated for that. Then the mice sensors got better you don't need that. I think only then i got MS intelli mouse 2.0 i could swipe the mouse at any speed i want and it will still track, the other low tier mice i had if you moved the mouse to fast it just lost its tracking.
@@giedmich Yeah good point. I remember getting a printer pad and suddenly having issues. My game of choice was ut99 which didn't have accel support and in hindsight what you say makes sense... q3 players could make use of more of the surface because accel let them.
Later i played QL with accel and enjoyed it but had to stop using it because other games didn't have it and this was before rawaccel and other options existed (I think, or I wasn't aware of them). I wonder if mouse manufacturers will ever support accel properly.
@@joel6376 oh yeah then you got used to inbuild q3 accel it was very hard to switch to other games, because mouse felt very different. I guess now with 3rd party tools you can set your mouse in every game the same if you want.
99% of accel users quit before finding their god curve.
In early windows system, accel is default on, and 100% cs players did just dine without even knowing it. Then one day it became default off, many players including myself doubt why tf we can’t flick properly anymore until we found out the accel setting.
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You can try the jump curve with some smoothness added. That’s what I’ve been using and it helps with the dpi difference
omg i absolutely love your linear settings made my aim 10x better
Ronin 4d in the background just chillin hah! great insight on this i do feel the need to have that acceleration on some games before, its a good time for the coverage thanks!
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I've already been using Raw Accel to correct my left/right aim being flat horizontal since I use a G502 which you naturally angle slightly inwards towards your thumb, therefore aiming left/right aim usually also results in aiming slightly upwards/downwards. This can be corrected with Raw Accel, pretty awesome!
Super interesting. In the old school days of Unreal Tournament, there was mouse acceleration whenever you dodged. So, you could use a super low sensitivity for fine control then dodge + fast mouse flick to easily do a 180. I missed being able to do that. This brings back that Unreal Tournament feel when I play Pharah and Tracer now. Thanks!!
Good video and shouting out Viscose is such a W too XD
My respect of you went from like 15 to 80 while watching this (although I still think u can be weird about some things sometimes like the Atlantis debounce or the whole poll rate drama)
You are a life saver! I have been using a drawing tablet in fps games as a little challenge and my aim is a bit inconsistent due to the smaller area on the tablet. especially in close range engagements. I completely forgot mouse accel was a thing. Thank you for the reminder.
Thanks for that vid and showing the curves. I was planning on trying Raw Accel thinking I might be able to set a 2 step acceleration on it, but never could find a time to bother/risk ruining my current gameplay, but seeing it already has it as "Jump" means I need to download it now. 2 step acceleration is how mouse actually worked in Windows 9X. When XP came out with a new multi step acceleration everyone just went and turned it off thinking there was no mouse acceleration on 9X at all, but for me turning it off was completely different to 9X, it made my hand hurt and I had trouble to play at full speed. It was only years later I learned about 9X having a mouse movement speed threshold at which it switched to higher mouse sensitivity. Despite learning how to play on current default mouse acceleration, if I would suddenly sat at 9X I would just turn into flicking aimbot, it feels so natural you don't even notice the change of sensitivity. So maybe now I will be able to use the full of my skills again, but in modern games running on Mitsubishi 2070SB, Razer Cobra, and EverGlide Giganta Transparent Smoke v2 :P
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Humans are highly adaptable. Mouse accel isn't unpredictable like people think it is. Many pro quakers have crazy aim and consistancy with it. It's harder to master, maybe.
But does it give any benefits? More like preference thing.
@@IrrationalDelusionless arm movement, less fatigue
@@neoqueto Only in larger flicks. Questionable benefit.
@@IrrationalDelusion "Only in larger flicks", uself said 1 benefit that is a fact, how is questionable?
@@IrrationalDelusionYes since your sensitivity drops back down to your base sens after a flick your stopping power improves immensely. Flicking is actually easier for me with rawaccel.
as a mouse excel connoisseur do the following for best results:
use jump, and have your mouse settings on the lowest possible sens that you're comfortable with. this allows for precision targeting and tracking for small mouse movements, but if you need to flick quickly, it will ramp up and help you get the crosshair to the head.
smooth: 0.5
input: 25-30 (depends on what speed you want your mouse ecel curve to actually start. 25 will make it start earlier and 30 will make it start later)
output: anywhere from 1.5-2 (I would suggest 1.5 to start with and slowly build up)
NOTE THE FOLLOWING: if you are a counterstrike degenerate, do not use 400 DPI. mouse excel doesn't like this for whatever reason and the mouse tracking is bad. turn your mouse up to 1600 dpi and lower the mouse multiplier to 0.25
lower dpi reduces the amount of dots plotted or some shit which means your curve will be updated slower and less frequently and therefor will feel more stiff, less natural, and in my experience slower. i used mouse accel for around a year, it seems like it has extreme potential for very specific applications and isn't altogether bad for most games, but isn't too good for some specific things and probably isn't worth using if you want to be competitive. I personally would use max dpi if your mouse sensor doesn't have smoothing
@@miclwastaken why use max dpi?
Oh thanks, I’ve been using rawaccel for years on CS with 400 DPI, didn’t know that was bad.
@@maskina9611 I just said in the comment
Really nice. This is what I had thought-your brain is capable of being consistent with a curved response. This is something people need to perform all the time with a lot of different things
Thanks for clarifying that there's no perfect sensitivity. Been struggling with this mind game for a while now for certain games. Great video! 🔥💯
Is it possible to use hotkeys to swap senses
I use a razer basilisk and in the software you can do this. I use the clutch button on the side to half my DPI from 1600 to 800 and it works amazing
@@ronald6756 the logitech G502 has had this for a decade.. lol. I have four settings i can tap to with a fifth "sniper" setting with a dedicated thumb button.
The g502 is my favorite mouse, the ONLY problem I have with it is that that sniper clutch sits just a _little_ too far forward on the mouse for me to comfortably reach. I don't exactly have giant hands but it sure does make me feel like I must have tiny babystumps for thumbs lol
@@skootz24 no it definitely is in a funny place. I have big hands and I have to shift my grip just to hit it lol
@@DigitalWolverine When he says "doing this in-game ... is kinda impossible" is the most ridiculous statement ever. I've used DPI shift for sniping with logitech mice since BF2 in 2007.
Thanks, I'll definitely be playing with this.
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Super interesting! Going to give this a shot tomorrow
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Always cool to explore new dimensions of aim!
Some Quake duellers (for like 20 years) use a script where FOV and/or mouse sensitivity changes depending on the active weapon
Hm, fast for LG and slow for rail with rockets in between? That might work
@@forgettd The best LG users have typically been low sens players. High sens is more viable now in Quake Champions because the LG's range is lower but in QL and prior if you wanted top level LG aim you couldn't use a high sens as the most important range was that last part of the range that no longer exists in QC, where things get awkward for a high sens player.
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I've been using rawaccel for a few months now, followed a guide thsts a few years old by Surefour. I mostly play Overwatch and it massively improved my gameplay.
I basically just stuck with his settings with very slight tweaks. So Natural curve but with an offset of 15 to create a deadzone at the start to eliminate those jitters you talked about. Curious to try the motivity curve now to see if it functionally feels much different but the curves look reasonably similar!
Been wondering about mouse acel for awhile. I really needed you to make a video about it before I use it
I feel like this would be good for low edpi players as it would make 180 flicks much easier.
This. The 'jump' profile is basically like having an automatic DPI clutch built in. Essentially you only utilise it when 'looking' for something off-screen, rather than 'aiming' for something you can see (that you don't need your hand to move so fast for).
Absolutely, if you set the offset to a high value then the accel would only kick in when doing 180’s, 360’s and stuff
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I appreciate seeing folks like Ace and Viscose mentioned in this video because their skill is incredible. Raw Accel seems like a nifty little program, but I'm curious how it'll feel in the long term.
I managed to play with mouse accel for 3 years straight. I got accused of being a Hacker like 1000 of 1000 of times. Especially in BF4, BF1 and R6 back than. Its actually crazy what happens when you get in your Zone with it. The best warm up was to make 360´s back to back until you get to the same point 10 times.
i play without mouse accel and i always get accused of cheating in games i’m good at. that’s just online gaming, mouse accel or not that just meaning you’re good dude :)
@@guigui78340 What I mean by that is that as soon as I switched to mouse accel, people started noticing the long range lazers being weirdly accurate. Its not like before that didnt happen but it looked much smoother. For example, an enemy running left to right from a far distance and following him with the cursor looks much smoother with accel than without
WHAT CURVE?
@@Aluja77 oh i see i see. well now i def need to give it a try
@@Soldierboy_FPS I used the default Anisotropy, might as well figure it out yourself but dont change to quickly just because its not working immediately
Glad you saw the light considering your skills.
I think mouse accel is actually a gamer meme because it doesn't make sense from a physics standpoint. If you look at how things work in "physical" sports that require precision and power, you won't find movement that is raw flat linearity. Everything has some sort of acceleration with a restraint when precision is needed because it's much easier for the brain to track stuff with 2 variables than a single one, you have more input to work with, more "feels". Just look at how good players handle their badminton rackets or baseball bat. They definitely don't move their arm in a linear fashion, that would be unnatural even if they were able to give it the same power.
And there is the Quake history, where old school players are very keen on the acceleration for very good reason, it's just better overall even if in theory you could lose some precision if you were able to perfectly move your arm at a precise flat sensitivity like a robot. But that's the thing, you are not a bot, otherwise it wouldn't be a human game and it would be rather pointless; there are other considerations to have and perfect aim is just going into an extreme leaving a lot of other cases on the table.
Mouse accel is good precisely because it's not perfect, as we say perfect is the enemy of good and perfection is always an illusion anyway.
well said
You can use Input Offset to make the low sense flat. That enables more curves to be viable.
im so happy i clicked on this video i run the same accel as you but i bumped up the in game sens on overwatch to 5 and it is actually perfect i had an average acc percentage of 35 and a crit percent of 10-12 and i turned this on and queued a quickplay game and i finished the match 30 and 0 with 20k damage and 63% acc and 33% crit acc i dont know what happened but i feel like i cant miss a shot now i almost doubled my accuracy thank you so much for this vid
Finally, Quake player flick secret has been discovered... Quake Live still has the best acceleration settings compared to other games, but yea, i'm glad RawAccel exists so i can mimic the same settings as the one i am used to at Quake for other games.
mouse accel is quite interesting. if you think about it, it should (and does) feel very natural - your sens is low when you want it to be low, and its high when you want it to be high
Good video as always. Solid info, a respectable honest opinion and great editing. 🤜🤛🏾
You can tune the threshold to accurately separate tracking/strafing from flicking, with a gentle knee. It works incredibly well for quake-likes when you want rapid 180's on both axis for rocket boosts *and* low speed adjustment for rails and lasers. I've left the same curve on for so long I prefer using it in desktop applications as well. The angle adjustment lets you tune the mouse so turning your hand naturally reads as a straight line regardless of whatever silly way you hold it (so long as you're consistent). And, the anisotropy lets you balance out the lack of vertical travel you get when your hand is on the desk.
People act like linearity is so incredibly useful and intuitive or something, but really, it's way more practical to have a higher dynamic range for your cursor velocity.
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Just sold me on this idea, I was always finding issues with how slow I do 180's in games and this might just help me
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i tried it but i went back to linear after few months
thats quite a long time. it only took me couple of days to go back to linear
@@shepard21 i worded that wrong read edit
Why
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w because the only reason you improve is because youre more focused when adjusting
I never comment on videos but i needed to say this, I decided to give this a go with your settings as a Apex player and oh my god it's everything i've been wanting, i've recently been changing my sens a lot to try and maximise my aim and movement but this has just solved my issue in less than an hour.
for your problem of the sens switching when you dont want it to i recomend setting the input offset to something arround 8
Viscose used it. went back and realized her aim was much better without it. I call it the honeymoon period. It's the same effect when you get a new mouse, but after switching back, it wasn't that great.
it's the re-consolidation. One of the skills you build other than adaptability when changing mouse sensitivity, how you manage mouse sensitivity(accel vs flat), etc. is the raw mechanics improve faster over time when you're more mentally engaged in something as you're required to be even subconsciously when your settings are changing.
The "best sens" is usually whatever you've been using within your comfortable range of sensitivities for an extended period of time before an event, and the "best sens for practicing" is usually to not have the same sens for that reason. That includes with or without accel.
@@sunderkeeninlove this response
I played with windows base mouse acceleration on accident for a year and a half and switching on and off has proved great for training
@@sunderkeenin Exactly. Accel is a tool just as any other sensitivity is, and at one point in time everyone who got used to static sens (flat curve) had to go through a honeymoon period and then slowly build up their subconscious (muscle memory) skills and experience with each sensitivity within each specific muscle control group. People think of accel as a special new and different thing and judge it as such due to their own limited knowledge on the tool/sensitivity range when really the way they get used to it is very similar to how you get used to any old flat cure (static sens) sensitivity and it can be judged as such and with adequate experience and skill, too.
@@Amphvptere Windows enhanced pointer precision is subjectively bad and objectively difficult to get used to/master, I used it for like 6 years or so when I first started PC, so I get it lol but if you enjoy enhanced pointer precision, I bet you'll certainly enjoy RawAccel's software and creating your own custom accel curve :D
When I tried raw accel for a few days I felt like a fucking top tier aimer. But after a few days the honeymoon effect started to wear off and I switched back to no accel and it’s actually so much better to have a static sensitivity
i don't know how this could make sense, but i believe you
Correct
id guess that autopilot on static is easier than on accel
@@xymaryai8283less variable in your arm movement and acceleration.
Same experience. It's like a crutch that you eventually grow out of
Love the video. Not going to lie i just realized ive been using enhanced pointer precision at over 2000dpi for months now and I always wondered why some days felt a bit off 💀. I didnt check my settings until you mentioned it in this video. Going to try raw accel now and see how it goes 😅
What gaming sleeve do you use? And do you find them better for consistency?
Really interesting channel. Keep up the excellent work 👍👍👍
i played with regular mouse acceleration on for a whole year unknowingly, after turning it off for the last 2 months i can say that it’s all muscle memory, i play just as good without it as with it.
I've been playing with the default windows mouse acceleration for 3 - 4 years now, and I've never turned it off. I didn't even know it was a setting before I got used to it💀💀
It doesnt matter if it is on if your game uses raw input, so pretty much all games. to use windows accel you must disable raw input in your game's settings. this is basic stuff since always
@@vvvvvvvvvvv631 It still uses mouse acceleration in game because windows outputs the 'mouse signal' as a separate copied input, (the game doesn't know if you have the windows setting on)
@@TomatoTim345 No. Raw input bypasses the acceleration. And to my knowledge Overwatch should use raw input. Only in game for character control, not in the game menus though. I just tested it. I'm using acceleration for Windows, but there is not acceleration in game. If that is different for you, maybe there is some setting (I couldn't find any obvious one) for it or it depends on the hardware.
one thing i'll say, if you do use mouse accel, make sure to turn it off after a while and get practice in with your raw sense, I don't know what it is but sticking to a curve for too long just does something to your aim, so it's good to hop back to flat every once in a while.
Glad you did it for me so I dont have to! I noticed you using an arm sleeve! I would love some content on your experience with them. This channel has become one of my top go to channels on anything gaming
a sleeve was a game changer for me. my arm used to rub on my desk and cause small inconsistencies in my aim. i didn't realize how much it was effecting my aim until i tried a sleeve and suddenly my tracking and flicking improved a ton. the twist is that my "sleeve" is actually just a sock leg cut out. maybe i'll get a proper one when this sock wears out lol
A sleeve feels like a chore/hassle and now in the summer feels even worse but its the only way if you want to use a glass pad like Optimum does. I'd much rather just wash my hand every 30min/1h if it starts to feel sticky. And sleeves are hit or miss if you want it to work with every pad. Most would work with Glass but if you rotate a variety of cloth pad, it'd be nearly impossible to find one that fits all. I had some cheap AliExpress one that worked fine with glass and Hien but now i got the Skypad sleeve and its...pretty bad, works only with Skypad and adds even more friction than barehand on any cloth.
@@Divinity_vA I have 4 aliexpress sleeves which cost like 10-12 Eur combined. Every sleeve doesnt work with every mousepad, or it might work when you turn your sleeve inside out. I think I have 7 cloth mousepads and there is at least one ( most commonly 2) sleeves that work on each one.
In regards of summer and feeling hot - use a fan :) it helps a lot
Bro is cookin early af
Australia time ❤
What do you mean "cooking"? He's just making a video. He's not making any food, you know.
@@shenxi oh he's cookin trust
Mouse acceleration isn't bad for FPS. (about 8:18) Ex-pro esports CS 1.6 player here. (Around 2009-2013 years). We used to turn off mouse accel but I've meet many top level players who used acceleration (not 0.05 levels btw), this was shocking to many people , us and people in forums too. Just like in NBA, Tyrese Haliburton has weird release in 3 pointer shots but Steve Kerr told coaches "Don't touch him" when he came into league and now today he is all-star NBA level player.
Not everything works with "data".
Wow, that basketball reference was totally unexpected under such a video 👌🏻
Cant wait to hear more on the wooting collab !
Back in the day when I used to play a ton of Titanfall 2 on controller I remember constantly tweaking this perfect sense thing I had. In the advanced sense settings I would make the stick fully against the edge register super high sense so I could flick around easily because Titanfall 2 is super fast paced, and when the stick was anywhere but the far edge it would be way lower so i could actually hit my shots. worked like a charm and baffled some of my friends when I had them copy my sense.
mouse acceleration is great tf y'all mean?
Use input offset ya silly goose
I’ve had it on and never knew about it until recently and it makes playing games so much better
I struggle without accel on, my dominant hand got crushed at work and after it healed my joints just don't work right any more, especially the middle finger. My hand tends to tremble if I try too hard to be precise. Acceleration allows me to keep my hand in a much smaller spot on the mousepad and it really helps. I'm not winning any aiming competitions anyways, when I was "good" at FPS games my mouse still had a ball under it and I had a 15" CRT monitor.