Firestone X/T Tires, Fuel Wheels for 2023 Chevy Silverado 3.0L Duramax
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2023
- Our 2023 Chevy Silverado 1500 3.0L Duramax Diesel truck got a new set of wheels! Thanks to our friends over at Bridgestone and Fuel Wheels, the truck got a big change to its looks. Publisher Tim Esterdahl along with Mr. Wheel Man go through the tires, share important details then go for a MPG and road noise drive to see how the off-road tires hold up.
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Thanks for the business Tim! Your truck turned out great!
You know you're in the right place when you see a VW engine sitting on the shop floor.
I think extending the tires outside the truck body lines will result in a substantial increase in paint dings, especially during turns,if you travel gravel roads. The bronze/black rims look nice but I still like my factory rims on my 2023 GMC Sierra.😮
Tim, I can’t remember if I’ve mentioned about these XT tires when I commented to you in the past, particularly when you reviewed your cousin’s GMC HD and I commented positively with my 2020 Chevy 2500 Gas version. Anyway, I’ve owned this XT tire for +2 years on my 2500 here in Alberta and these tires have amazed me. As quiet as my Michelin mild terrain Defender M/S’s on both gravel roads and highways and I did not notice any fuel efficiency penalty (bonus) . Add to that is the cushioned feel on gravel and again, a quiet tire. Great grip of course without question. Sipes are all the way down and serrated edges on each block I’m sure helps a lot in mud, snow, etc. a Sleeper of a tire. Should be on the short list for anyone with an HD truck.
This guy really knows what he’s talking about! He’s probably forgotten more than most techs around my area know.
I busted tires for 3 years . Cool to have a shop to do it. That’s good he knows the limits of how big he can go up with out compromising any saftey issues
I have a 2021 GMC SLT Sierra with a 3.0 Duramax. I just installed Michelin LTX M/S as a replacement tire. The ride is extremely smooth. I bought the truck used because I knew the original owner and he took perfect care of it. I researched videos from TFL and from Tim with Pickup and SUVTalk and followed their recommendations on the 3.0 Duramax and 10 speed. I have put several thousand miles on it and I’m loving it. 28-30 mpg and smooth ride. I get asked about from other people all the time.
Tires look good. I run a good year 275/65/18 good year with the Kevlar on my 2015 super crew with the 3.5 ecoboost, 331 axle . The LT makes a little more noise but the off road ability is so much better. I’m still averaging about 24 to 26 mpg on a gas motor at a average speed of 65 mph.
Love the tires but I prefer the stock wheels on the High Country.That Firestone model tire is pretty popular here in Nova Scotia Canada, I have heard good things about them.This was a great video,your installer is quite thorough and professional
made in Canada tire too. Firestone has a factory in QC where they make a few models including the AT2's i run.
@@thecount1001 nice !!!! I did not know that,they see like great tires
Trucks great with the new wheels and tires Tim. Great job.
I have these tires on my ‘12 Tundra trd off road in its stock size. Have about 5k miles and I am very pleased. Performed well last winter on snow & ice. I have a friend who sells Bridgestone /Firestone. He has had good reports from other customers. Tread pattern reminds me of K02’s.
I'm not a fan of aftermarket wheels but you made me look at those tires... I think I still prefer my BFG KO2 though.
Great vid Tim and enjoy your new setup , looks 👌 👍
I’d go back and have them re-torqued to 140ft lbs as specified from GM.
Also recommend googling and maybe doing a video on a chalk test to determine the proper tire pressure. You’d be surprised you can probably run them much lower than you think 80 psi is for max load. But the stiffer side walls and stronger belts mean they will support themselves easily with that light truck. 40-45 psi would be my guess but a chalk test will give you a perfect number
Carry a good breaker bar in your truck. Trying to break 140ft lbs of torque on the side of the road with the that thing that comes with the truck will give you an aneurysm.
@@coldnorthAK yes sir. That and a decent set of impact sockets. I have a cheap bar and set from harbor freight in all my vehicles.
Good looking wheels and tires, Tim. My 2023 GMC Sierra AT4 came with Goodyear Duratrac tires on 18 wheels. I was perfectly fine with the ride quality of those mud terrain tires but the noise was excessive. I replaced the Duratac tires with Hankook Dynapro AT2 Extreme tires. They are much quieter, ride just as well, and my fuel mileage improved somewhat. I sold the Duratrac and got most of my money back.
My door sticker tells me to inflate the tires to 41 pounds. I had the installer torque the lug nuts to 140 ft lbs, which I've read is the correct torque for my wagon.
I use Firestone XT on my GMC 3500 and they are great, winner performance is excellant and they are very quite
Nice review.
Thanks!
Great video. Fuel makes some cool wheel designs. It would be interesting to compare ware mileage and performance degradation
When I swapped my tires and wheels on my Sierra I just bought new TPMS sensors, they don't cost that much these days. The people I sold the stock wheels/tires too were happy about it too. The tires you bought have the 3 peak extreme weather rating so they'll likely do better than the stock tires in bad weather.
I'm running Fuel Shok with the same offset with Toyo AT3 tires 2019 Trailboss 5.3L. I've had them for 18 months and I had a very small mpg loss.
Edit stock offset I'd more like +22 not 30. With a zero off and stock 275 wide tires. Your tire side wall will be slightly outside of the fenders ,but the tire tread is still inside. You won't get rock chips with this set up. Zero offset is the perfect fit for these chevy trucks.
Tim the compound of those tires is a little harder than the stock tires. So the noise decibels is a little higher, but tire pressure and road surface plays a big deal and the decimal meter.
exactly, did Tim drive on same type of road for both tests? Concrete vs Concrete, "vs" Asphalt vs Asphalt. Because road type will affect noise as well.
Looks Good.
Nice step up
The problem with tires that stick out is how much mud and road grime you get on the side of the truck. I had some wheels that set the tires out like that on one truck. They slung crap all over the side. They looked good, but my black truck showed the dirt like crazy.
sometimes looking cool is not that smart after all.
@@Boobtube. exactly. I’m too old to care about anything but practicality now.
Why can't we find someone like you in Memphis to inspect/install our tires? I have a new 2023 RAM 1500. The dealer put Firestone Destination M/T2 35 12.5 R20. The truck is factory 275/55R20. I have no idea other than lots of videos like yours to know if I'm hurting the transmission. I suggest if this huge truck can't handle a tire 3" larger then they need to stop commercials showing it off road. But the odometer is wrong, MPH is wrong, MPG is wrong. But the truck looks great with the level they did, it's smooth with light drone, and I like it. Enjoying your great video.
Not my fav, but I'm not the one paying for it. I am picking up my 2500 Denali ultimate Monday. Keeping factory rims may change tires. Not many after market rims that I like. But happy for you if you are happy.
This tire guy is mostly spot on!
One major point: The GM lug nut torque for that truck is 140ft lbs NOT 100. One minor clarification: Load rating is the LRE. 123/120 is load index - LT will carry less weight at 35psi than a standard Metric/P Metric tire, hence the 40psi. Note- If you use a load index to air pressure calculator, you might need more than 40 to carry the same weight as factory. Also LT tires have a longer stopping distance than nonLT
Looks great Tim! Curious to see long term how much mileage hit you take with LT E ply tires. Thanks for talking about what mpg you are seeing now. I think the gold looks great with Titanium Rush.
Shouldn’t see any hit on mpgs with his new setup. Never saw any difference on my Tundra going to a 10 ply tire.
It's really more about contact patch and rolling resistance, and weight of the tire. E rated tire with a similar contact patch should provide about the same MPG.
The weight of the heavier tire might cause a slight loss in fuel mileage
@@shanebrown2963 You must not be paying attention. My F150 lot 2mpg highway with 10 ply tires. My Trailboss 1 MPG.
Have you ever thought of adding a titan fuel tank to your 3.0 duramax they make a 42 gallon fuel tank for 1500 silverado diesel
Some think, high offset wheels look cool, but eventually your wheel bearing and ball joints will disagree .
It’s been said before but the GM spec for lug nut torque is 140 ft pounds not 100. Maybe it’s something specific for those aftermarket wheels but I don’t see why considering you don’t change the wheel studs. So I’d definitely double check the owners manual on the wheels and unless it says otherwise I’d go with 140 ft pounds. And unless I just totally missed it I didn’t notice him torque the wheels in the actual proper sequence. It looked like he snugged them in the proper sequence but then just went clockwise for actually torquing them. Again maybe he did it the correct way with the torque wrench though.
Also the E rated tires probably need more air pressure than you’re running. 40 psi is half their rated psi for max load so you may want to consider that. Under inflated tires will cause them to build heat and that is not good. However at a more proper air pressure they will absolutely perform better towing or hauling because of being a stiffer tire. So they won’t flex as much as the standard passenger “P” tires.
Personally I like the stock wheels better but I’m not a fan at all of aftermarket wheels. And last thing, I’d recommend getting some kind of mud flap or you’re going to sand blast the side of your truck with those tires poking out lol. I know it’s not much more than stock but it’s more.
Truck looks much better with those rims/tires. Especially with the offset.
A High Country with a 18in wheel would be a great truck for me.
What do the three rows in the middle of the tire spell?
sound measurement is logarithmic, actual sound doubles with about every 3dBA
Nice tire and rim package! Where do they make the rims at? Just curious.
According to Fuel all of the rims are made in the USA at their California facility.
Those LT tires are way overkill for the half ton 3.0 L Duramax and will definitely make the ride quality considerably worse due to its higher load rating and stiffer construction
What's wrong with a little overkill? :) The ride isn't THAT much worse. I'll be playing with the PSI and dial it in.
I wouldn't run higher than 45psi. My Trailboss factory Load Range C Duratracs recommended 41psi ,so I kept my Toyo AT3s E at 41 psi too. Very minor ride quality impact.
@@terrencejones9817 It's because he mounted a load range E tire. Min PSI will be higher. Stock load range then stock PSI, higher load range, higher PSI. Plus rougher ride and more expensive tire...
I love these tires! I run them on an f150 fx4. Handle great in all kinds of weather and my mpg and ride didn’t suffer at all. Maybe a little more hum but you need to expect that with hybrid off road tires. I run mine at 38 psi. When towing 42 psi.
I like it. Most stock tires are garbage.
Nice wheel and tire setup. Just curious why you did the MPG test in Auto 4 wheel drive mode on dry pavement?
I never bother with changing the dial to 2wd. It’s never been an issue and hasn’t changed MPG at all.
@@Pickuptrucktalk good to know! Thanks for the reply. I have a similar truck and I’ve noticed that I lose 1-2 MPG in Auto so I was curious.
Nice! I'm buying a high country 3.0 tomorrow. I could not find the max towing package anywhere. Should I order a 2024 with a max towing package? Does it perform a lot better?
Max towing you get trailer brake controller and transmission cooler. Just two things that are nice to have, not musts.
@@PickuptrucktalkThanks.What package has the 3.73 gears? Is that what you have?
@@jeffgross500 yes. Max tow gives you that too.
I heard you say your stock tires were Goodyear Duratrac but, they look like Bridgestone Dueler AT. May want to go back and check your weight comparison. Another thing, the wheel torque spec on your Silverado should be 140 lb-ft, not 100 lb-ft like your installer said. Just a heads up.
My 2023 GMC Sierra has the Bridgestone Duellers. Seems like a nice tire and performs well off-road.
If you look at the Firestone XT diagonally, the middle tread spells out "USA." You're welcome.
E means 10 ply EQUIVALENT. There isn't 10 actual plies in the tire. It's EQUIVALENT to the old bias ply tires using 10 plies back in the stone ages.
Tim, if you haven’t, it’s recommended to rebalance tires/rims after all new setup.
he did have them balanced, did you not see that part?
I think you meant aligned? It’s on my list.
@@Pickuptrucktalk That is what I meant. Sorry.
That's all folks
Load range e are stiffer so the ride might suffer a little.
You’d have to add fender flares if you lived in PA due to their law that requires tire to be inside fender. Personally the factory wheels look better.
I was thinking this. L.E. out West seems more laid-back on enforcement. I mean, an inch nobody will bother ya, but some of those Jeep folks have half the tire stucking out.
It would of been good to point the camera to the wheel lug nuts better . Lol he knows the system for sure
Yeah I was watching the video and cussing myself out for my poor video skills. I did get the torque though.
It’s all good your content is great ! Thanks
@@Pickuptrucktalk just proves your human.
@@Boobtube. no kidding . I lost my hat I bought from you in Vegas . I just repurchased another and a shirt from your website! I’m human too
Are you having oil consumption issues?
LOL, don't get him started.
Rims already have scratches from installation... nope I am good .. I prefer a big name shop to deal with
What are you talking about? Rims have scratches?
@Pickuptrucktalk go to 8:00 minutes.. look at the first bolt to the right. Look around the bolt you will see 2 dots in the bottom on the black color . .. from that machine
Too many numbers being talked about, show more pictures.
Sorry dude, terrible idea and a weird look! Changing an original high country wheels with those weird color wheels! Tires look good! Changing tires are easy but Changing the wheels could effect the look and performance! Love and support from San Diego.
I love my stock 20”” rims on my black Chevy 1500 6.2 gas High Country
With low profile stock tires
Nice safety cage your tire man did not use!
Why would we need a cage for a small tire like that? That's unecessary.
Those tires are much louder. TFL tested the 3.0 GMC LZO and got 59-60 decibels. So your 69-70 is substantially louder.
Tires look great though!
Odd. I tested my truck in other videos and got about the same decibel range as the tires I put on. Not sure why I’m different than TFL.
@@Pickuptrucktalk road surface.
Ill be hauling my dump trailer with my 2018 Titan and i need E rated tires.