Was The Buddha Against PSYCHEDELICS?! | Thai Buddhism
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- Buddha, Buddhism, meditation and psychedelics with a dash of mini psychedelic visual trip simulation. Because why not?
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Terrence McKenna has a nice line of reasoning that any enlightenment is welcome but mushrooms just get you there much faster
Shakyamuni Buddha taught that all intoxicants should be avoided, as they cloud the mind which stops you from achieving enlightenment. Any experience that psychedelics can give you can be achieved through dedicated spiritual practice without the use of substances.
But the thing is that not all substance cloud the mind. Especially with psychedelics they deactivate learned automatisms and cooping mechanisms that divert your focus from realising what is actually going on at the moment.
@@DeutungshoheitAuthentic spiritual practice can achieve all the things you mentioned without any of the downsides, but most people won't put in the effort it requires.
@@CustomGrow520How would you know that? From experience?
i agree. psychedlics's effect is only temporary, which will bring one confusions after to block the real mindful enlightment
Depends on individual and background, psychedelics have helped many to plant the seeds of cultivating grounded and positive spiritual practises.
As a Buddhist Practitioner, It’s about practicing saying no to consuming toxins of any kind, be it alcohol, drugs, tv, video games and conversations. This goes for monks and laypeople. In most Buddhist Monasteries, like The Shaolin Monastery for example, they have a knowledge of herbal medicine. In my view, Psychedelics should be regarded as medicine by ethical means, and becomes toxic when abused. Only when using psychedelics when needed or for ceremonies is fair use in moderation. We in this age should have a respect for drugs and people that use them because they truly need it.
The Five Mindfulness Trainings is my reference point in this, The first one being non attachment to views to be free of dogmatism and fanaticism, and the fifth being about healthy consumption where the quote in this video comes from.
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5:40 love the Terrence McKenna impression 😂 spot on!
Glad you’re posting a lot more dude
Love Thailand! I go there atleast once a year myself! Amazing place amazing people!
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First came Theravada. Later, buddhist practitioners started to have visions and revelations and Mahayana was born. They would receive teachings from "higher" realms. Finaly, Vajrayana came. Vajrayana practitioners would communicate with deities, receive transmissions from buddhas and bodhisattvas and enlighted dimensions. They did a lot of "crazy stuff" to go beyond duality of aversion and grasping and there are many books about that. Vajrayana is the fastest and the most direct path but it can also be dangerous, if you do not do it correctly or if you do not go all the way. It is said that Buddha taught on all these 3 levels all the time. At the same time, as he was teaching humans, he would teach gods and beings in the higher realms, although ordinary people couldn´t perceive that. However the fact, that gods would come to listen to Buddha, is also accepted by Theravada. Buddhist and Hindu Vajrayana practitioners did their pujas together at the beginning of this movement and they used intoxicants. Mostly honey wine but also other psychedelic substances to go beyond duality. Even today in Vajrayana monasteries monks drinks a symbolic amount of alcohol during rituals. If you ask great masters about intoxicants today, they will not advise you to do that mainly because , as we know, it could be dangerous. They will never support you with this experiments although there is no doubt that Vajrayana practitioners used them for centuries. So I guess it is our own responsibility to use them or not, only you really know your deepest motivation. I don´t think there will ever be a clear answer to this question.
The first 5 precepts one as a householder (non monk) are
No killing
No lying
No stealing
No sexual misconduct
No INTOXICANTS
Accepting these precepts make the average Buddhist
They did write about it, it was encoded in the teachings both Hindu and Buddhist. Read the books by Lama Mike Crawley. He's also got some interviews on CZcams.
Great to see you making a new video.
The 1st when I did acid was after right after my Vipassana retreat
unfortunately I was so tired from it that I ended sleeping after taking 300+ ug paper
😂😂 hilarious.
As best as we know weed was first recognized in China but I’m sure there is more to that story too.
If Buddha was against psychedlics himself then he is was not enlightened 🙏😊💖.
He became all with what is and what is not psychedelics included😁
Ah yeah here he comes mr I know everything
There is more questions than answers and u dont know if it isnt another illusion
Are you enlightened now after u took drugs?
@@Blacksun1984no what he says makes sense. If Buddha judged psychedelics like that he didn’t really free himself from any desire for or against something. If he was pursuing a state free from psychedelics then he wasn’t really free from desire.
Recommend dharma talks from Monks! It will help you! Make the most of your time in Thailand, instead of walking around with the camera, have some questions for the monks and see what they think about you! 😊
Using wireless blutooth devices I found most destructive to the being's functioning abilities
My understanding, though of course flawed. Is that an understanding of reality via the four noble truths, dukha (roughly translated as suffering) is because of a deeper belief in Self (rather than the western Freudian ego). Enlightenment is a constant, present, realisation of how Self is a falsity. So whilst psychedelic states might make you dissolve the Self for a couple hours, with a potential longer term afterglow, it's false. True enlightenment, is deeply an uncaring of worldly sensation because it's the transcendence of the wheel of samsara. The removal from samsara. In a western mind, there's nihilism in it. When you reach enlightenment, after that you stop. Truly you move on after death. YOU and soul do not go with you. Until Mahayana thought schools, where the bodhisvatta wait before they depart to impact the knowledge. I digress, what is enlightenement? I dunno, do the dishes and be completely and utterly in that moment. That's hard, and it's harder than taking psychedelics, no matter how fun and come together they are. I say this, I like all those sensation from psychedelics a lot.
To your point early on. Ancients were absolutely aware of psychedelics, but it wasn't psychedelics that inspired centuries of philosphical/theological insight. We do need to stop over egging the importance of psychedelics. Useful, yes. Integral, no. It's more hopeful for humankind that many people were able to hit these heights without a psychedelic. Again, this is from someone who likes psychs and gets pumped by the medicinal potential benefits
Maybe someone changed the Buddha's word somewhere in history
Psychedelics blasted my mind beyond the programming and made me see that we are all one. But I didn't really grow or feel spiritually grounded until I started taking time to just be/meditate, journal, allow myself to feel my feelings without punishing myself, stop numbing myself through weed and sugar and escapism, heal traumas through forgiveness, self forgiveness, increase my self worth, increase my self awareness, set intentions for the day, set intentions for each moment, unlearn destructive beliefs I was programmed with, exposed myself to thoughts and ideas that served my highest good, treated my body like a temple as you say with nourishing food and daily movement and never sacrificing sleep, prioritising self care and learning to self soothe, learning to trust my self and only seeking validation from my self. Psychedelics are useful in a time of extreme separation and disconnection like humans are living through now. But nothing tastes as sweet as cultivating a strong and loving relationship with your self and God through the life you live every moment of every day. Your life is your medicine. Better than any drug you could ever take.
There is many buddhas out there, and they "woke up" on there path. If we are talking about THE buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) he was a prince so he needed to be a leader for the peeps, so maybe he saw it was a better why for englightenment, so he said "DONT DO DRUGS KIDZ". x)
It´s just like you and me walking through life, we can take tips and advice from peeps and also make our own. Thats what i think atleast :)
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He must not be totally against it since he revealed himself multiple times to me in multiple forms on psychedelics
The thing with psychedelics like Ayahuasca is that they are wrongly overrated for healing purposes and there is too much dangerous hype around it that led many people to psychosis and post ceremonial suicides. The guy James Freeman who played himself as main character in Netflix documentary Last Shaman, he revealed in ICEERS public speech on youtube that they misguided audience by showing movie's ending where he was getting better after ceremonies, in truth after 50 ceremonies he was so suicidal he needed to be hospitilized and go back on antidepressants and ayahuasca did not bring him any healing, he was still feeling disconnected from emotions, anxious and dissociated. There is a lot that cannot be healed through psychedelics like C-PTSD and disregulation of nervous system as we can learn through for example Seth Lyon's story.
It can have a good outcome or a bad but good ones are much more common
I don’t believe that they’re against it it’s more of that they’ve been practicing meditation for a very long time. Psychedelics can be a shortcut for those who are already deep thinkers, who are already on the path who already are initiated, but Buddhism is truly all about the practice I don’t necessarily think it’s a religion it’s more of a spiritual practice more than anything, and we’re always in the middle of all things all love to everyone
the answer is simple: for the most part, yes.
Even simpler: yes.
We all have to start somewhere and for a lot of us it all began with psychedelics. I dont regret doing them at all, there is a big possibility i would have killed myself without them.
Psychedelics like psilocybin mushrooms have shown a lot of promise in helping people with mental health issues.
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Thai Buddhism is a form of the Theravada branch. They have their own traditions including forest tradition.
The Thais are very superstitious generally they believe in spirits and form of numerology etc. thus they have a unique view of Buddhism.
Thai Buddhism is against all substances that have a significant effect on our perception of reality. This includes psychedelics. The same can be said for almost all branches. Its mostly in the west that this is a point of contention.
I think Westerners have a wrong perception of Buddhism. Sometimes calling it spiritual or philosophical but not religious.
I have a recommendation for everyone who is interested in learning the core teachings and principles of Buddhis. The book called what the Buddha taught.
It provides enough depth in manner that is easy to grasp and it is to the point without being impacted by western orientalism.
You heard the story about Buddha holding up a flower? only one of his disciples understands and smiles, knowing its Datura
That’s not the meaning of the story
The buddha's voice sounds a little like Tom doesn't it?
Was the psychedelic against meditation?
There's no proof that psychedelic affects it but it enhances your mind
Coffee will teach you the Himalayas are in your mind.
It’s only temporary!
Psychedelics will get you nowhere.
Buddha also said being in a relationship is detrimental to spiritual attainment. This is why you yourself will never make any progress
This is true if you are a monk not a lay Buddhist. There is different rules and teachings for monks and general public buddhists.
If you’re a lay Buddhist he teaches the importance of having healthy connection to your spouse and using the relationship to better each other.
@@LK-em1bv you're either on the path of Liberation or your digging a deeper hole. I'm an expert sorry try that line with the girls you're trying to go balls deep in
I feel like you’re clinging to the past by even talking about psychedelics.
the buddha wasn't against anything, but, he did caution against some things, like having strong opinions, so, it's best to leave those behind.
all experiences we have, are purely experiences of mind.
No, Buddhism is not a religion. Buddha hated religion
He did not hate religion. He did not have a strong distain for anything. This goes against the core values of Buddhism.
The Buddha tried all the regions and spiritual teachings present during his lifetime before becoming enlightened. None worked for him.
If you read the actual Theravada dharma which is the word of mouth teachings past down from the Buddha. There is occasion where he recommends adjusting a young man’s religious practice in which he prayed to the four directions to incorporate a Buddhist teaching. Buddha did not try to tell the man his religion was wrong or to covert him. Just tried to hopefully make a positive impact.
The Buddha said he did not want people to just believe or trust him on face value and to keep reflecting on the teachings.
Regarding Buddhism being a religion or not. Buddhism is very different around the world. In some places it is more aligned with what you consider a religion and can be very supernatural and cosmological. Many Buddhists believe in gods and the afterlife along with spirits. Westerns have a very strong misunderstanding of what Buddhism means in its popular countries. This is well known amongst students of Buddhist
@@LK-em1bv no. You watch too much Disney
@@cj548 never have
I practice Buddhism
@@LK-em1bv you don't know anything about Buddhism if you think Buddhism is a religion just like the guy in the video
Interesting that your attachment is not helping your enlightenment!😊
Psychedelics have been used by indigenous people ritualistic and as a form of medicine.
The only reason western civilization even caught up to this is from indigenous people.
Now I know if this video you are reflecting from budist perspective. I would just invite you to look into further other culture's experiences and history, if you haven't already of course 😊
We know what Jesus said, can’t change God’s word Jesus is the word homie. Stay away from that buddhism that’s some evil shit mate.
The New Testament was written by anonymous authors decades after the supposed time of Jesus. Each book contradicts what happened in the others in ways. So imo it's not a reliable source.
@@austin9809 there is not one single contradiction in the Bible only people misunderstanding bc they haven’t read the whole thing,and you need to check your facts about the new testament it was written through the disciples by God! Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit!
@kyplummer3657 don't assume people haven't read the whole thing. Your ignorance about intellectual honesty is astounding. But if you want to believe it nobody gonna take that away from you. Hope you have a great week!
Think about this for a second, when is the last time you have heard anyone cast a demon out by using the name of Mohammed or Buddah? There is only power in the name of Jesus, seek Him and Him only. Any and all forms of gaining entrance into the spiritual realm apart from God are an abomination to Him.
To be fair, I've only ever heard of Jesus name being used to cast out demons in fictions so.. I have my doubts about the necessity of such a thing 😂
@@masseffect555 you can look it up on here, it's not as dramatic as Hollywood makes it look but every case is different
Buddha gaslit a physical existence which is a poor thing to believe in if you're both spiritual and physical. It's like the lie of being born in sin. We were all born perfect just raised into a culture of sin. Get your own vibes from inside my man. If it's natural and it changes your consciousness go for it. Nature is our mother it's like telling a baby in the womb what it can and can't eat as it's being fed
Maybe he was against unearned wisdom, he spent a life in meditation and discipline. Taking psychedelics for fun and been thrown into a unfamiliar headspace can be mentally damaging to the unwary.