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Today's video is the 2020 Halloween Special! This one is all about the Doe family from Midnight Hollow, who seem to be hiding some sort of secret...There's lots of info and references so definitely grab a spooky snack🍿🍬, a hot drink ☕, get comfy and enjoy! Love you guys! See you next Sunday!
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One thing I find interesting tho, Jennifer is technically not "perfect" like the rest of her family. Her neurotic trait, which is a trait I believe to actually represent anxiety, is considered a non undesirable trait in the Sims 3. Perhaps what ever her family is hiding is putting strain on Jennifer mentally and she is secretly writing everything down on a digital diary thus her really good writing skill
Very good observation 🧐 makes sense..
jennifer is the only human in her family, she is held captive by aliens
@@xxhalfemptyxx7713 honestly, the alien thing is just as fascinating to me
Maybe the family moved there because of a job offer but she's creeped out by the weird town and people. And maybe the previous owners had the basement but were murdered and burried in cement so the bank could sell the house more easily
I believe that Jane and John is a reference to what police call corpses before they are identified. If there’s a female corpse she’s a Jane Doe if male John Doe. I believe this is hinting that the actual parents are dead and the people who killed them has stolen their identity. The teen might’ve no liked his parents so he didn’t say anything about their deaths. Jennifer maybe has been threatened to not say anything , that’s why she has the neurotic trait and James is a toddler and wouldn’t understand.
I played with this family and I tried to make Joseph flirt with his love interest but he wouldn’t he would only flirt with boys. Now I’m not sure but he might be gay and his parents didn’t like that. So that’s why he won’t say anything about their deaths. He might feel finally free but still has a relationship status because he was pushed too far by his parents to love girls
That’s what I ADORE about Sims 3. Contains a lot of mysteries we can’t quickly acknowledge . Every single townie has a story and a secret. I hope Sims 5 brings back Lore
The Sims 4 could never with the lore
@@febuarius98 Please don’t put Sims 4 and Lore in the same sentence😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sims4 actually does have some deep lore its just really hard to find and references really old poetry check out chrillsims videos on it
@@SimifyMe Yeah I know about them. Watched all his videos. But they aren’t as interesting as others. But there’s like only 4 in all the game, and we have more than 100 sims in all the game. While in Sims 2 and Sims 3 pretty much everybody had a weird secret/background.
4 have been found so far he doesn't have many subs and hadn't posted in ages
The teory that suggest they are corpses is VERY creepy, and kinda makes sense. Like the movie “the others”, maybe they are already dead and they don’t know it. Their house might not even exist, that’s why everything os so perfect inside their home, but so creepy outside. Maybe they all died at their old basement and the basement got covered to hide what happened in their house.
Yesss 😩 love the others sooo much! Definitely what I thought of when I was looking into them!
omg and what if we can't see the basement because THEY ignore it because of trauma? If its like you said and the whole house doesn't even exist, then what we see is a projection of what THEY think is real and wan to see
@@ferflashes YESSSSS
@AdrienPastel omg yes, kinda like the american horror story
not to mention the fact that the teen boy has such a high gardening skill.. i feel like maybe he is simply imagining his family after killing them? perhaps they are dead and they are simply figments of his imagination..
I’ve noticed that “death by electrocution” in ts3 lore is like a code for murder 💀
did a lot of that..serial killer lady’s victims have it or something? sorry I’m kinda new to sims 3 lore lol. I just started playing the sims 3 instead of 4.
And drowining
What if the son is just growing pot with the level 10 gardening skill lol?
This family is one of the “most normal” in the town, yet the creepiest one honestly. HOW AND WHY has Joshep so many skills and practically mastered GARDENING? There is no garden. The family DO NOT have a garden. Sure there is that one small one close by but still it’s kinda??? Odd?? And the interview creeps me the f out.. why did he storm off? I think if there is something suspicious about this family, we should most definitely start investigating the teen lmao. Kinda SUS
he mastered gardening while digging for... you know what
Well, maybe there were some kind of plants in the basement. Plants that you wouldn't want the neighbors to see.
@@blueghost4769 So many possibilities.. I’m losing my good nights sleep because of this weird family, trying to figure out what is going on with them after all!
@@elinilova i just downloaded Midnight Hollow. Maybe i'll investigate the families a bit... They all look strange
Considering child sims can't learn the gardening skill, Joseph had to dig around for an awful lot of time to have it mastered by now, as a fairly young teen...
*This sim family has a dark secret*
Me: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows the list?
Honest that’s like every sims family lmao
all of my sims are responsible for at least 1 death each.
@@markdavis1356 i don’t think telling people on yt about you bein nasty is a good thing
@@josmos1182 You mean every sim family in sims 2 and 3
@@grimm0214 You must be a very good sims player because like half of the sims community is “nasty” lol
Just because they don’t have any mean/evil traits doesn’t mean that they can’t be killers. Based on how Joseph reacted and Jane’s insistence that the interviewer drink her tea, I suspect that they are the killers and are involving their children. Joseph doesn’t want anything to do with it and is trying to distance himself from that part of the family
And maybe they were trying to make Joseph help them but they refused so they started using Jennifer to help them kill people, explaining her neurotic trait
@@ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 I like the way you think
Another thing:
They USED to have a basement. Joseph has 10 points in the gardening skill. They don't have a garden. Burying. You get it? They probably killed and buried people, and Joseph feels guilty about it. As the first replier said, they let Jennifer take Joseph's place. This stressed Jennifer out, and she developed the neurotic trait.
Or they kept Joseph and abused him, and it stressed Jennifer.
@Ian Turner i mean he does but there is another family in midnight hollow thats actually based on the movie psycho with normans „mom”
I agree, I did not get the vibe that he was the murderer with him storming off in the interview, I thought it was like he was pissed at his family trying to put on a facade and he wanted to tell on them, but was probably being threatened or was having conflicts about doing that to his own family
When you realize sims 3 has more hidden lore than sims 2
When you realize the Sims 3 has more *hidden* lore than most games have regular lore.
idk, Jane insisting that the interviewer drinks her tea makes me think it might be poisoned.
What if their dark secret is that they actually ARE completely normal happy people and that people are assuming the worst of them because of it lol. That doesn’t fit the interview but I think it’d be funny.
I think this works with the feel of the town - in this town being weird is normal, so being normal is considered weird by the other residents of Midnight Hollow. I also sometimes feel like Midnight Hollow is an alternate reality, like the land of the dead in Corpse Bride. So the Does could be a normal family that just died and their souls went to Midnight Hollow and they don't remember or know why (because they are unidentified corpses) so they get upset whenever they're asked.
@@kateschmid2889 wow your theory is GREAT. And it also fits with Olive Specter history, since she's been already romantically involved with Grim Reaper, he/she/it (idk Reaper's gender kssk) could have brought Olive and his/her son Nervous to the "Death's Land"
@@senhordoutorprofessormestr8629 most of the time grim is a male sim, even with ts4 randomising him. I don't think midnight hollow is an afterlife because of olive specter though. She's in sims 2 strangetown, and by that point nervous subject has aged into a teenager in the beaker household
@@justaperson4656 Not a teenager; an adult
Is it just me or the fact that the house “used” to have a basement and joseph having 10 points in gardening, and he seeming to be hidding something is strange? I mean, it’s impossible for a teen in The Sims to master any skill before growing as a young adult. Maybe he buried their basement to hide something
What do you mean impossible? I’m pretty sure they can if the age settings are set high enough.
@@Lindsey.-. You don't need a garden to learn gardening! Books (in the library or sold afterwards), TV, gardening course in the science center. Oh and he could have eaten life fruit to have even more time. Not to mention other store content or happiness rewards.
his pot farm? xD read that somewhere and it's actually very funny
It’s very possible under the right circumstances (example athletic sim going to the gym could likely master the athletic skill before growing to young adult if the life stages are high enough
my first thought was them being reanimated corpses but joseph being a killer makes a lot of sense so maybe its foreshadowing that he's gonna kill his parents and turn them into corpses
Love this theory!! 🧟
I think the hallways are a reference to the Shining. The fact that all of their kids are blond remind me of the movie/book Flowers in the Attic.
The generic names, John Doe and Jane Doe, have also been used for unidentified murder victims throughout the decades. Her being pregnant also may be a reference to Rosemary's Baby
i was also reminded of flowers in the attic by their appearances. i honestly thought that they may have been involved in some weird incestual things, but that was before seeing the actual evidence that supports other theories. its definitely odd.
@@thesexiestbaby I saw this too!
The doe family kind if give Midnight hollow a reverse Addams family vibe
That's a really good point! A seemingly normal and perfect family with some kind of unexplained dark secret, in a town full of spooks and weirdoes that (for the most part) are all pretty friendly.
The original Stepford movie has a sequel/ spin off named the Stepford children, if the Stepford theory is true, Jon Doe may have replaced both wife and son , as in the sequel only the teens are replaced. Also funnily enough, in the 2004 movie they're not really robots , just brainwashed with microships, regardless of the quality of this movie, it shows robots is no the only way wives turn into Stepford Wives. This is a reach, but maybe they pulled different plot points from different Stepford media and if they did the story of the family may go like this:
Jon Doe brainwashed in the basement both his wife and son to be perfect, and the little girl is neurotic because she is the only one old enough to notice the change in hef mother and brother, and not only that, she knows she's next. The strange skill levels on the two may be because their roles are different, Jane as a wife doesn't have to do anything besides look pretty so she doesn't have any, but Joseph as the son has to be a prodigy so he has many.
!!!!!!!THIS IS WHY JENNIFER DOE HAS THE NEUROTIC TRAIT!!!!!! She has anxiety about being replaced when she ages up!!!!!! I. Am. SHOOK.
Yeah but surely the robot of the wife would have good cooking skills
A "normal" family... called like unidentifyed dead bodies in the US
2:43 I think I read it somewhere that in Victorian era, there were small cabins on the beach (which had wheels so it was movable). Anyway the purpuse if this cabins were that people can change in their swimwear, hence they have chairs😊
There are also some modern beaches that have those brightly coloured changing cabins, like Muizenberg in Cape Town (South Africa)
I have another theory what if John murders his wives when they arent 'perfect' little house wives and then clones them and poses the clone as his wife and his two eldest children know which is why Joseph stormed out of the interview and is the reason Jennifer has the neurotic trait. It would also explain why Jane has no skills and why she can become pregnant.
You know what, the Doe family remind me of that one Twilight episode where this kid kidnaps people to create the perfect family and the family are too scared to fight him because he has powers
What ep was that
Huh, I never watched the Twilight zone but that plot is exactly like something from advance comic I read, I wonder if DC took inspiration from that episode.
John Doe keeps asking my MARRIED Sim out on dates and his kids crashed her bachelorette party. He's not as perfect as he looks.
I freaking love Midnight Hollow, please do more videos on it!!
In my game he became a vampire and also keeps crashing my parties even though nobody knows who he is.
@@xzuzux9840 Freaking weirdo family
Roblox John; hey that’s my name 😡
Omg they used to do interviews!? I mean yeah theyre not real people but the effort it takes! Amazing! Instantly downloading sims 3 .
Timestamp?
@@YooranKujara 4:50
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I love the sims 3 and sims 4 sims 2 was alr but at same time eh I got it on ds I dunno if I got a weird version but it was confusing and the sims never had (sims 1) but you will not regret getting it I mean you probs have already 😂
Many stories in the sims are cool and somewhat creepy, but this one is so... Uncanny it actually gives me the chills
Joseph has "Murder in Pleasantview in his inventory" huh.... Interesting...
The corpses theory is right where my mind went. I never had this town so this is my first time hearing about them. I watch some conspiracy and occasionally true crime outside of the Sims and it seems to be what they were going for to me. Also their son mirroring another Sim isn't just creepy, but it sounds like that same person went missing in an alternate timeline and this is his "corpse." It reminds me of the maid in Sims 2 for PSP who seems alive but has been dead for almost 100 years.
Also, I don't particularly find Joseph storming out to be suspicious. It seemed more like the whole situation made him uncomfortable so if anything he knows something and doesn't know what to do or say. I just can't blame him. That's just my take. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Love this!!
8:17 Only true Sunset Valley simmers knew that they looked similar before she said it
I noticed, but definitely couldn't be him.
@@ThieflyChap Yeah I don’t believe it’s him, it’s just that they are eerily similar
They are similar, but not even close
The fact thar John Doe and Jane doe are used in anonymous or Unidentified victims/suspects of crimes freaks me out the most-
The fact that the dad has a really high logic skill and his son has really high gardening... Its really sus. I'm 100% sure they killed someone lol
I know I am incredibly late, but I have a theory:
Did you realise how Jane kept offering the interviewer tea? I think she became nervous and maybe tried to poison or sedate her so she wouldn’t find out that she killed the other family. And that is how she killed them. She invited them for tea as a little “Welcome Wagon”, sedated/poisoned all of them and buried them in their basement. She then filled it with concrete and tried to forget. This is also why the son stormed out of the interview. He KNEW the truth, and didn’t want to admit that they weren’t too sunny anymore... And also why they denied the house tour. But that’s just a theory, a sims theory :3
I still feel like Jane being "artificial" in some way is very likely. She is supposed to be the perfect housewife, but she has no skill points whatsoever. Skills are abilities that have to be acquired over time through practice. The implication is that Jane never had to "learn" to be perfect, it's her natural state of being. The names Joe and Jane doe makes you immediately think of dead bodies, but the names are used for anyone whose identity is unknown. Perfect people have no proper identity either. They're like the kind of people you can really only describe as nice because there is nothing else to them.
I think the Doe family is meant to represent the typical 50's family. They are the perfect white american family with lots of children. Father is working, mother takes care of the kids... The cold war and fear of nuclear power resulted in some families having atomic bunkers - I think that's the deal with the mysterious basement :D
I always thought they were meant to be the "normal people" in an otherwise spooky and ghostly neighborhood. But the dev interview puts it in quite a different light.
Btw what can be more creepy and concerning than a normal-looking family in context of midnight hollow? It's like in a joke about a 4-years old kid with a book in a monsters crowd.
It was weird Jane kept trying to get the interviewer to drink tea
I think they also a parody to of the perfect family newbie players build, ultra skilled kids, they all nice and perfectly groomed they all nice to eachother. Pretty mich your first family run in the sims.
I never really made the "Perfect" family just made them to where they could get along most of the time.
I think Joseph had to hide something, but likely didn't want to. That's why he's closer with his siblings, because he doesn't want to be involved in what his parents did. Jennifer likely knows and developed the neurotic trait because it was so bad.
I feel like it's the Joseph being a murderer one that's the family's backstory.
you’d the expect the bizarre beach would be bizarre
i was honestly expecting 50 gravestones of a sim’s co-workers, while sims woohoo in a random bed that’s there and there’s an alien dancing over a gravestone
I’m only exaggerating a tiny bit.
@Eloin Shoal
What’s so shocking? You get vampires, mummies and aliens for college-mates. That’s honestly the normallest thing I could say about TS3.
They are just the "normal" version of the Addams Family.
Joseph getting mad kinda reminds me of the twilight zone episode where the kid gets exactly what he wants and the family is afraid of him bc if they don't do what he says he'll hurt them or worse
@popp py No it is :)
I like the stepford wives theory but the only reason why it wouldn’t make sense is because Jane is pregnant. Can robots get pregnant lol? I feel like her being pregnant also debunks the kidnapping theory since they clearly are able to have children right? I think maybe the reason why their traits are so “perfect” is because when you enter a witness protection program you are given a completely fake personality and backstory so maybe it’s implied that they were all “re-traited”
Reading The Sims Wiki, I saw a curious info about the Does and their neighbour family, the Salas. Both male adults carry the same unnamed book, with the same cover and same price, in their inventories. Maybe it has something to do with the mystery... 👀
I researched this and it's a glitch! Would've been super interesting though 👀🎃
It could be a glitch but weird that the only other sims that has it is the ghost head of household
"Ethan and Joseph are the same"
Me: they're just... basic white boys
yeah....their facial features aren't similar at all. They're just both very generic dudes.
@@wendillon92 Right??? Lmaooo
What if the son’s high gardening skill is so that he can get life fruit and he used that to resurrect his family? He had tried lots of experiments in the basement to resurrect them but it didn’t work, and then he found life fruit so didn’t need the basement anymore.
The house is on foundation. The basement would not be directly under it. Maybe near the house... you can build one if you want. And well, he is a book worm. Much more likely he just read all 3 books in the library instead of doing his homework. You can get 3 cooking and 3 handiness from children's toys, and he could well do a bit of fishing as a child. I think he might want to become a scientist... He can gain the ingredients for ambrosia .. he can fish using a living bait.. the dad is earning money for recipes, the mom is to learn all of them. Well-- if she had ant skill, what would there be for her to do? Maybe she's fresh from CAS?
It could also be that Joseph used to be in the Bunch family, maybe he and Ethan are twins. And either kidnapped as a baby, or did some serial killer stuff as a child, and was sent away in hiding. Maybe with friends, or distant relatives.
So, while I'm aware that most people think this theory is impossible.... I really do think they're serial killers! However, I think they're trying to change, but it took them until after their second child to start really trying.
1. They seem to be very eager to avoid talking about their personal lives. There are even movies and shows in which someone is hiding a body and literally just keeps offering tea to distract from it, which would also explain why Joseph stormed out, but his siblings seemed unaffected; they didn't know.
2. The basement is filled in; what reason would they have to do that other then to cover up past crimes?
3. This is the BIGGEST one for me... JANE CONSTANTLY REFERENCED TO BE COOKING AND BAKING BUT HAS NO REAL COOKING OR BAKING SKILLS!
A MEAN POT ROAST???? FRESH MADE SCONES????? Every other member of her family has their skills completely set, but not Jane. They weren't going small, they CONTINUOUSLY reference her as if she's this cooking Guru, so why doesn't she have any cooking type skills.... Unless she's not cooking with normal food.
5:37
JUST LOOK AT HIS FACE WHILE PUTTING THE BABY DOWN...
it's too creepy... '-'
Joeseph kinda looks like Fred from Scooby Doo. He even has the jumper. This has zero relevancy to the mystery though.
when i was playing withe the bunch family a creepy notification came up by arlo bunch "No matter how many times they tried, they were never able to paint over the stain" and the bunch family in sunset valley is a pretty colourful house to me, it could represent that someone possibly died here but I have no idea
I saw them in-game recently and i was about to look for another house that had a basement, meaning they could have moved or been moved by someone else, but the stepford wife's theory is the one i like the most, something about John gives me the looser-husband-who-wants-a-perfect-life type of vibe
this was my suggestion omg 😭😭im gonna cry from happiness. i clicked so quickly
Thanl you!
Offtopic but is that Azula on your icon? If yes then I love it so much ernjgeg, also great suggestion!
@@gorluralah3734 yup thats azula love avatar the last airbender 😊
@@hidansektas omg my fave character ever... love to see her
@@gorluralah3734 aye im glad it made you happy
I just imagine them dealing with their son being a serial killer like those parents who take away their kid's bedroom doors, just in this case they take away a whole basement XD
Dang it Joseph I told you to stop killin people! That's it no more murder basement for you young man!
Ohhh I really like the idea of the stepford wives theory. Especially with the coffee scene!! That explains jane insisting the interviewer to drink her tea and john saying she's not doing well. As for the pregnancy ummm...a very advanced robot perhaps lol
I don't know if this means something but the roots of Jane's hair are brown/black. maybe she dyed her hair to try and look differently.
I agree with the idea that Joseph killed the neighbors and his family is covering it up!
I feel like the son is used as a servant. Would explain all his skills
Maybe Joseph and Ethan are twins but the Doe's took Joseph when he was a baby.
To me, they kind of seem like clones. Maybe that's what they were doing in the basement.
My evening may have been ruined by the fact I and my friend's festivities couldn't even start due to her parents, a painful migraine and general sadness
But it has been improved by this video.
Sorry to hear about your evening, but I'm glad the video made you feel better! Happy Halloween! 🕸️👻🎃
@@TheSimsLore Happy Halloween!
Join the club then. My friends and I were planing to have an online game night, but a friend was feeling under the weather, two others flaked, and one had been procrastinating for too long and had to work on her schoolwork to meet the deadline. I basically spent the evening by myself nursing a migraine from my sinuses being swollen for the past 2 weeks and watching old horror movies because no one was home. I binged until 6 in the morning until I eventually passed out from exhaustion. Yes, I'm feeling salty, because people can be real sh*t holes sometimes.
I was too upset to focus on the video yesterday, so I rewatched it today and it gave me a ton of inspiration for new sim creations.
@@rosewaterlily2886 I hope you had fun with the movies at least.
I just spent the evening trying to get to sleep with videos playing in the background.
Maybe joseph has 10 skill in gardening bcs he needed to bury people and he found fun in that and tried too make theyre grave as beautiful as possible .
Not my theory, but a head-canon I have is that the Does moved to Midnight Hollow and changed their names because Joseph had killed someone in the town they previous lived in. He did it either by accident or intentionally, but I am leaning more on intentionally. In the long run his parents and sister found out. The parents helped cover up the murder, and the sister found out by easedropping on a conversation her parents were having about it, hence the neurotic trait she possesses, because she knows too much. When they made it to Midnight Hollow, the parents had the basement filled in, in hopes of preventing Joseph from continuing to kill.
My theory is that the Does are a meta-commentary on society itself.
The Does are the ideal family, that's it. There's no underlying secrets here. Nothing suspicious. It's all about our perceptions of what's normal and acceptable.
Let's cover some oddities.
Jane doesn't have any cooking skills but she has the talent for it and the desire to do so. It's not that unusual for women to put off their desires to raise a family and that seems to be what she's done here. Joseph is a teen, so John and Jane married young and started the family right away. John already knew how to cook, so he did it when they first got married, building up his skill a bit. Once John started making money, they ordered out in one way or another. This was John's way of spoiling Jane after taking care of the kids.
So...why does he brag about her pot roast making skills in the interview? Simple. He's lying. It's clear from Jane's skillset that she'd burn salad, but the fact that they have to order out all the time is no one else's business. Jane feels ashamed for not having any cooking skills, so he made up this lie because he cares more about her feelings than anything else.
Joseph's gardening skill being so high is a combo of two things. 1) He's a genius and 2) It may have been something to fill the time before he had siblings. Once Jennifer became a child and he had someone else to talk with at home, he lost interest in the garden so it was taken out.
Not having a basement. My theory here is that it's chilly in Midnight Hollow so they filled in the basement to save on heating bills.
So....why do they live in Midnight Hollow in the first place? I'd say it has to do with the schools. You've got a couple of genius kids who are getting C's. This tells me they're likely being challenged in a way they weren't in other schools.
Why is Jennifer neurotic? Because sometimes kids are. Because even though the Does are the ideal family they're not perfect...just...societally ideal. Maybe her father's perfectionism is a bit much for her.
And that's the ultimate in meta-commentary. Think about all of the eccentric townies in Midnight Hollow this is their society. Yet, if you brought them out of Midnight Hollow and put them into Sunset Valley, they'd stick out like a sore thumb and they'd be the suspicious ones. They could be just fine and normal on the inside...just look strange on th outside. In the Sims...the people are what you make of them and it doesn't have to match what kind of outfits you put on them or how ordinary, weird, or beautiful they look who they are is what they are...none of that other superficial stuff.
But...the Does are the societal ideal. And, in reality, that societal ideal is creepy as hell to the rest of us who don't fit into it.
--Bri
I like a theory where Ethan actually wanted to disappear and the Doe family took him in and disappeared together. He became their son. You can combine this with a theory where the family was running away from something ( victims or perpetrators). And the move to the new city makes sense for all!
Maybe the interview was a nod to the Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life" about a boy who abuses godlike powers and basically holds his family hostage.
They remind me of Melanie Martinez's song Dollhouse, which is about a picture perfect family but deep down actually has fucked up stuff going on behind closed doors.
I was thinking the same thing!
The Bunch family could be the polar opposites of The Doe Family because of how imperfect the Bunch Family is and how perfect the Doe Family is
when I learned of the Doe family, I immediately thought of an episode of the Magnus Archives about a college professor who slowly comes to realize he’s teaching anatomy to a group of mimics who are learning how to fake being human better through his lessons. every student has a name that’s a different countries version of the term “John Doe”, and they seem human at first, just… off. it makes me think that maybe the Doe family in Midnight Hollow is something similar - a family of mimics, except instead of learning how to be more human, they’re faking humanity SO WELL that it becomes suspicious.
this could explain why Joseph looks so much like Ethan Bunch; the thing that became Joseph based his current identity off of Ethan. for extra creep points, maybe their basement is filled in because they killed and replaced whoever lived there before, burying the bodies in the basement to keep the authorities from finding out. hell, it could even explain the family’s odd behaviour in the interview!! they couldn’t answer the question about why they moved to Midnight Hollow truthfully (since it would give away what they are) and they didn’t want the interviewer finding small hints of their inhumanity during a house tour, or god forbid any trace of the murders or the sealed basement, so they panic and at first try to deflect the interviewer’s attention to something else, then shut down the interview entirely when that doesn’t work.
I read somewhere that they kids are essentially raising themselves hence the kids with high skills and Jane having no cooking. It also explains why his homework is in the red
Personally I’m fond of the idea that they’re all actually dead and going about as if still alive. The names are most commonly used for unidentified corpses and they all have very old fashioned clothing, and they have the same vibe for me as the family in The Others, where they consistently try to act as normal but the reality of their deaths is always lingering. I feel like the idea is serial killers but idk I find that lame considering that’s what they did with Olive in TS2. Unless they’re all serial killers, a serial killer family is more fun.
I think that one of them accidentally killed someone (Maybe Joseph cause he got upset) and ran off to a new town because they panicked.
And the fact that "jane doe" and "jhon doe" are collective pseudonyms that are used when a person's real name is unknown or is being intentionally hidden.
that was the creepiest interview I've ever watched
My theory is Jane may slept with Ethan Bunch while she is married to John. After discovering her pregnancy they may ran away to Midnight Hollow to hide the pregnancy from Bunch's. So their teen boy might be from Ethan and not from John
It's interesting that their names are John and Jane Doe, as in the name medical examiners and police officers use when a body can't be identified
Imagine if “Ethan” is actually Joseph and vise versa and Joseph switched places with Ethan as a joke (or maybe they both hated their families and wanted to switch) after killing the family next door (ghost family) but Ethan never knew that he was switching places with a serial killer
Here's an idea: Jennifer is the "different" one. She might have witnessed a murder of a friend or something and the murder was tied to a crime syndicate. This made Jennifer neurotic. I like the witness protection idea, and would imagine the family was pressured to have Jennifer testify in order to put a crime boss behind bars, then the family went into witness protection. The high writing skill could be because she was in therapy and this was a way for her to express herself and work through the trauma. Joseph, being a teen and probably having lots of friends he was forced to cut ties with, is resentful of the situation, but loves his sister, and doesn't blame her. He's just having trouble adjusting. James is too little to be affected by the change. John was probably brought up by a really controlling, goal-oriented, and possibly abusive parent, so this is how he feels a household should be and has high expectations for his wife and kids. Jane is co-dependent, probably raised by an alcoholic and had to care for them and the house. She never had educational opportunities because of this and is a people pleaser, willing to be anything John wants her to be in order to avoid conflict.
what if they’re vampires that stay hidden in the hallow because it’s never sunny so they can roam freely all of the time & what if they decided to move there to feel closer to their true selves will still trying to keep a mundane story line 🤔🤔 somebody could refine it because i’m not a great theorist but it kinda makes sense why there’s random red parts of the forest & why their neighbors are ghosts & why they try to be so boringly normal
Ok i know this theory is weird... but what if their gardening skills are so high because they used to grow weed in their basement and then they got busted and had to seal it off. Like they arent even creepy, they are just drug dealers. And the daughter is neurotic because she was always paranoid about them getting caught. But just kidding tho because i highly doubt thats what they were hinting at 😂
What if instead of Jane being a Stepford wife, Joseph is a Stepford son? And the Bunches were actually the ones to kidnap the original Joseph, since we know Jane is definitely able to have her own kids? All the theories coming together but slightly to the left, like a twist villain
All theories are interesting but I have mine and I would like to share it with you guys. Considering how this family feels so 50sesque, what if they died at some point in the 50s and was resurrected somehow. Maybe the crazy scientist from Midnight Hollow brought them back to life.
My personal theory is that they are exactly as they are... eerily perfect, and their secret is just ambiguous. Kind of serves as a reference to Stepford wives, The Stepfather, and just generally that whole little subgenre of "Suspiciously perfect" horror.
The Stepfather is based on Joseph Lister's 1950s murder of his entire family then disappeared for decades - he was found when an artist was hired to sculpt what he may have looked like and his neighbor recognized his face
There are theories he remarried and killed his family again over the time he was missing and at the time of his arrest he was married w teenage children
The Doe family is definitely the most creepy.
12:01 "There was a remake of this film...but let's not talk about that."
Me: *nods* I completely understand.
the names John and Jane doe are pretty fitting considering how mysterious they are
now why was i actually getting a little creeped out lmao😭
Same who knew the sims could be scary sometimes 😭
Love the addition of Theories! Please do more of the theories in other videos!
The interview and the voices 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 i am crying. This is perfect akdkaldmkflf
Speaking about the theory where the bunch family and the doe family are connected. Recently a scientific experiment was declassified where they were taking twin babies at birth and separating them into two different households to observe the differences between home environments and the impact on the child being raised there. Is it interesting at all to think that Joseph Doe and Ethan bunch are twins separated at birth? By the time they have this interview, is it possible that he discovered this information and they won't let him talk about it?
I don’t know why but I am getting American psycho vibes from the father. Maybe he forced his son to carry out murders with him. He did the killing the son did the burying. Mom acts like she sees nothing, trying to fight for the perfect family image. The daughter knows what’s going on but can’t say anything. I don’t know just spilling theory’s. XD I like your theory’s better through.
This family reminds me Van De Camp family or Yang family from desperate housewives
There also was perfect family, with perfect kids, one of them killed someone and other wife killed herself because of dark secrets
I like the theory that Joseph was a stolen infant. Ethan's identical twin brother, to be exact. The family struggled to have kids for years and resorted to kidnapping baby Joseph; he doesn't remember, but the lie lead to a lot of teen angst and confusion about why he doesn't belong like the others. While playing in the family basement, Jennifer found proof that Joseph was kidnapped and approached her mom...so her mom and dad demolished the basement and swore her to secrecy through emotionally abusive threats (you don't want your brother taken away do you? You don't want your mommy and daddy thrown in jail do you? You don't want to destroy our family do you?) She's now a neurotic child who isn't sure how to approach this.
I don’t know what the Does are hiding but I think it has something to do with Jane... very weird 😮
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Definitely getting Tate vibes from Joseph, American Horror Story Season 1! They could all actually be dead and he murdered his family and the one next door
Oh, they look like the story behind the music dollhouse... omg???!!!
What if he is ethan bunch’s twin who was taken as a baby. I think their daughter was also kidnapped, and that her and her older brother found out and are afraid. Also John and Jane were definitely trying to poison the interviewer
Okay I'm not gonna lie the interview freaked me out, I have no idea why but it reminded me of those poorly made Sims 2 horror stories people made
I’m playing the sims 3 and made myself. I became friends with Ethan bunch. And that sixth theory freaked me out a bit
I made my sim daughter marry him and I saw this and now I’m freaked out 😭😂
I've read the Lady Killer graphic novel and it's really good I did think about them being based on the Stepford Wives before it was mentioned.
The one thing I find weird is John Jane's names because in a hospital if they dont know a patient's name they them John Doe if it's a man and Jane Doe if it's a woman so are those really their names.
theory before i watch the video, John and Jane Doe’s are often the name given to unidentifiable corpses. so obviously they’re all dead and either don’t know or don’t want to accept it, living him oblivious bliss. Ok so onto my theory..
The son has a a very high gardening skill, what i think is he murdered the family and buried then in their basement and then killed himself. Something weird happened and their house ends up in Midnight Hollow and they’re all “alive” again.