Great video with an honest, fair, and realistic comparison. When it comes down to it, it’s a personal choice based on what someone is looking for. Personally, I prefer the Prime4. Honestly, it really doesn’t matter to me what someone else prefers. If someone else likes the Pioneer, I’m cool with that too. If we both fill the dance floor and leave people happy, does it matter the brand? If we’re both having an awesome time doing it, the brand name matters very little. I’m from the old school, and there is way to much emphasis on brand names these days. I’ve seen some younger DJs who go out and spend several thousand dollars on their first set-up. No matter the price, talent is not included with your purchase. I’ve also seen young guys who buy budget or used equipment, and they can rock the party better than some big bucks DJ with no talent. After all, Pauly D (or Pauly STD as I like to call him) has nothing but high priced equipment, and it sure hasn’t improved his “skills”, and I use that term very loosely when it comes to him. Of course, half the time his expensive equipment isn’t turned on or even plugged in. His adoring fan base consisting mostly of 13 year old girls wouldn’t notice anyway. Lol As far as Pioneer dominating the club scene, I agree that’s very true. There’s no doubt that Pioneer makes a very good product. But they’ve also excelled at mass marketing and convincing a whole lot of people that high priced equals better performances. They’ve paid a lot of clubs and well known DJs lots and lots of money to promote Pioneer as “the best.” But, I think if we’re all honest about it, current similar priced controllers regardless of brand name aren’t really that much different from each other. Essentially they all do pretty much the same thing, with a few differences here and there. It seems like we see a new controller every week with a few minor additions, as the companies are in a constant battle to one-up each other. A big corporate pissing match. I really hate to sound like the old guy saying “Back in my day “, but back in my day a DJ had to be flexible and able to adapt quickly on the fly. Everybody had their preferences, but when it came down to it, we could move the crowd with just about any set-up. If a club had Pioneer, we used Pioneer. If it was Denon, then we used Denon. Same with Numark, Gemini, Kmart, whatever. Lol DJs were judged much more based on their talent, and not on what brand they used. Sorry for the much too long rant, but the number one advice I give anybody starting out is to find your own groove, perfect it, and don’t worry about the other guy. Use what you have access to and practice until your fingers bleed. People will be so busy having an amazing time, they definitely won’t care what you’re playing on.
Keyword is Stand alone. The Denon wins because it has a better screen and you can plug an internal hard drive into it. So what if Pioneer is the club standard. The Denon hardware just beats the crap out of Pioneer this time. $1699 for the Denon also beats Pioneer. Pioneer makes a brand new unit and gives it 2 channel stand alone mode. Real smart Pioneer.
i hear what your saying but...MacBook pro's are so small... and as I'm not a mobile dj, it wont be leaving my house.plus as a traktor s8 user + pioneer xdj700's for recordbox...I could buy that and have access to traktor, recordbox and serato via two machines
Can't say I disagree, except maybe with "so what if Pioneer is the club standard." By definition, quite a lot of people do. So, there's room in the market for a device like this. Now, had they made it fully four-channel standalone, it'd be an obvious slam-dunk for many more DJs...
@@bboymac84 You wouldn't talk this way if you actually owned one. The XZ has a lot of advantages on the Prime 4 that has horrible platters, bad screen division, unintuitive mixer layout, no external FX ... XDJ-XZ pro's: 1. Almost exactly the same as a CDJ/DJM setup (INDUSTRY STANDARD) with more functions for about one third of the price.... 2. Awesome mechanical jogwheels. 3. Much better FX section that also can be used on external inputs. 4. Better MIC-section with feedback remover. 5. Separate master equalising. 6. Completely compatible as midicontroller with Serato AND Rekordbox. (which is HUGE!) 7. Improved 64 bit DSP soundcard. 8. More intuitive layout that will make you feel at home in ANY DJ booth around the world. I can go on
Denon already killed this Product and pioneer still playing catch up. Also this isn't a full standalone like the denon since you need to prepare your music on laptop
I just plug my usb in and go. Serato and Rekordbox.. Lol i dont have prep anything. I just download on usb when i a buy it. Plug into the xz and go. Literally works fine.
The XZ is overpriced trash indeed. That tiny ancient screen is awful, the loop and memory buttons outdated, the CPU and RAM very limited. Also no SD, SSD and WIFI, no full track buffering and on-board analysis. You can't use 4 decks or even do longer beat jumps than 8. What a joke! 🤦♂️ forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360055224552-XDJ-XZ-max-8-beat-beat-jump-Why-
@@pajtimdj The XDJ is certainly awesome. Pioneer lead the clubs. Festivals already offer both solutions. Mobile market is quite diverse. I dare not say who sells most there. I do notice Denon cathching up there. Its good we have choice.
@@MrLawrence0071 pioneer has way better overall sound and fx too and mechanical wheels with jog adjustment.. The only thing that sucks is you can cant play all 4 channels at once unless you have a external source and laptop. But the sound quality and quality of build is better. Gurantee it last longer and breaks less then the denon. But we need to give it time to tell.
@@MB-sq2xv I have a Pio set and a denon set. I disagree. Sound is better on paper but not audible. The Denon can do stuff the Pio can't. Feature wise Denon is superior. Sorry. Pioneer rules with rekordbox. Engine Prime is lightyears behind there but gets the job done.
I own a Prime 4 and the audio out MURDERS the XZ man, by leagues... Screw the features, the SOUND is stellar in comparison. Pioneer = Mudbubbles v.s. Denon = Glass bells
I'd still rather the pioneer one to be honest, makes more sense to me when you use this at home and want the same or the full set-up when you're playing in a club.. Just wish the made it a 4 channel instead
So you get a volkswagen...because everybody has one... seriously? If all people act like this, clubs will keep lagging behind. All due respect, any respected DJ gets the gear he wants and since this is a mobile device, it is not meant for clubs. But if you want to pay more for less, by all means 😀
Y'all kill me!!!!! its a matter of what your preference is honestly if you're a dj you should be able to play on anything!!! ive had and have pioneer (dd1000) denon mcx8000 and play on denon sc5000's for the most part its just the feel of the jog wheels...after that its the features each unit has to offer. Over all anyone can clearly see the prime offers more bang for the buck hands down!!!! It just comes down to which one you feel more comfotable using. The pioneer denon debate will always have people pushing pioneer becaue it's considered the industry standard even if denon makes a better product thats not widely accepted in clubs. People seem to think you get some kind of prestige because they own pioneer gear.
Pioneer is for club DJs while Denon is for wedding DJs. FYI: Denon jog wheel is ultra sensitive and the Denon screen is useless in direct sunlight according to other reviewers.
Thank you for the comparison. We live in a Pioneer world and that won’t be changing anytime soon. The Prime 4 is the controller every DJ wants to use (would prefer full-size jogs). Its packed with very useful features. However, if you currently or aspire to play out (clubs, lounge, bars) for muscle memory purposes you should stick with the XZ. I just purchased a DDJ 1000 for a backup set. I’ll be selling that controller and upgrading to this once it becomes available.
Any Respected DJ offer his rider and gets that. Any serious club goes with their time. For mobile purposes, this is also not an argument. The Prime layout is very similar. You see the denons show up more and more. Who says, in 2 years it will still be Pioneer? If you want the best, get the best. Simple.
The Denon Prime 4 is a real standalone system and one of the best features that is has is the key-shifting, you can synchronize by key only pressing one button. Pioneer, nowadays, leads in the software because Rekordbox analyses the tracks better than Engine Prime.
I still can't find any place were they get clear with the soundcard of the XZ. I think it's the most important thing. In my research i think i found that it have the same soundcard that the ddj 1000, that's not OK if is so expensive.
Depends on what you need. If you are brand minded, Pioneer still the winner because it's a club standard. But if you looking for features with reasonable price you have to choose Denon DJ Prime 4 because it has 4 channel standalone dj controller. Or you can consider Denon DJ MCX8000 4 channel dj controller with 2 channel standalone mode (same like XDJ XZ). Both Denon and Pioneer can use Serato DJ software. But, the choice is up to you.
Since all Pioneer products were backorder for a while I decided to give the Denon Prime 4 a try. The result? I'm RUNNING back to Pioneer!! Had the Denon Prime for 2 weeks, already sold it back and already ordered the XDJ XZ, whatever time it take to get it I don't mind, I don't want to have anything to do with Denon dj, period. Even if it's more advanced by a pure technological point of you they missed where it matters the most, when you're mixing. All the faders, jog wheels and the way the functions works are WAY OFF Pioneer's PRECISION and makes you feel more like a passenger instead of the driver when you mix, compared to my XDJ RX2, let alone compared to the XDJ XZ. So for me it's confirmed: Pioneer = Home
When people choose between Denon or really anything other than pioneer and this it's going to be very hard to ignore those jog Wheels look I love using four channels and it would be great to have that stand alone but I've got so many options to use those and I only need two channels in the standalone so it works for me no matter
Question I noticed the screen display on the Prime 4 shows the tracks scrolling vertically. Is there a way to position the tracks to scroll horizontally?
Hi, can I ask you something . I love all this DJ equipment, all the players, and i want to bye some of these. I ask, is it possible on some of these dj players to autoplay all songs in the usb, with auto adjust and sync tempo on fixed value, auto mix crossfade like 4 sec mix time, and use the player like ordinary mp3 player ? I am not DJ but I am crazy about these players and want to play at home.
i was about to buy the XZ. i didnt want to wait a few days for it so i got the prime 4 just because i wanted a standalone. ive gotta say, the prime 4 BEATS the XZ. as much as i love pioneer, and as much as they KILL it in the game, they went too restrictive with the XZ.
Was a nice and well put together comparison, BUT feels a bit fake comparing two of these dj controllers using photos or getting specs from on-line instead of having the units in person. I know these are expensive, but i don't think you can really make an opinion without 'hands-on' testing. But at least you've got some attention... :D I haven't tried any Denon gear, but learnt that anytime I went away from Pioneer (like Numark/Reloop...) always found myself missing something on a non Pioneer set up. It's hard to explain, but with Pioneer i always felt the connection with music while playing but with the other brands things were just without passion. :( Was a little bit tempted by the Prime 4 back then, but now I am still not sure if bought that or save some money for the XZ... Having a RX2 now so I am not really pushed paying the double price because of two larger jog wheels.
Hands-on review is coming as soon as it arrives! Not sure what's fake about this video, I got all my information directly from a press release, but thanks for watching and writing 3 paragraphs about the topic. At least I got some attention. 😎
The engine prime softWare used to prepare and analyse is unfortunately behind on rekordbox. But it does the job already. The software on the media players themselves however is lightyears ahead of anything pioneer has. It has a multicore processor system that can analyze tracks on the fly. Contrary to what some claim this is pretty fast. So basically, if you’re a real DJ who just knows his shit, you plug in your USB and start playing just as you had to do when turntables where all you had. 😀
This was a quick-n-dirty comparison rather than a full review video. If you'd like to know my more thorough thoughts on the PRIME 4, you are welcome to look here: czcams.com/video/zzcyfJ35250/video.html Or here: czcams.com/video/ES6aZyNrtyE/video.html
I think the Pioneer wins simply because you won't find Denon/Prime gear in the club unless you're popular enough to command a rider. Been waiting for something like this forever! Though I wish they would've made it 2 channels to make it smaller and lighter.
@@bboymac84 I agee that the Denon is the better unit (minus the jog wheel size and fx) but I don't know any clubs that have Denon equipment in-house though.
If you want the experience of spinning on a full NXS2 rig with muscle memory that translates to every single DJ booth, in every single city around the world... XDJ-XZ If you want the experience of spinning on two Numark NDX-400 connected to an Android tablet with 4-deck app installed and that you will need to take with you everywhere to every gig... Denon Prime 4
I played on prime fours and I just couldn't stand the jog Wheels I so used to either actual records record controllers with serato or cdjs and I really don't want to use anything but those things and let's face it records just aren't used a whole lot anymore unless you're doing a hip hop set with a lot of scratching and s***
I'm not aware of any Rekordbox app that allows you to play from a mobile device. To use channels 3 and 4, you either need to use a laptop + Rekordbox DJ or Serato... or, you need to connect external sources to the back of the unit.
@@PassionateDJ Well i got a bit older stand alone, the XDJ-R1 you can use the pioneer app to play from your phone. Truthfully this in my opinion a full stand alone, cause you can play from cd/midi-laptop/usb or wifi connected phone/tablet tho i must say is more Apple orientated then Android. Must confess that i still love my cdj-1000 mk3 set cause of the bigger jogwheels.. it's for some seems a 'big thing' the missing size agreed that for myself is choosing bigger wheels over smaller ones. :)
Yes! To record your performance to USB drive connected to USB2 slot, use the MASTER REC (WAKE UP) button to start/stop recording. Or, of course, you could record in software if you're using a laptop + Rekordbox DJ (or Serato DJ, eventually)
@@gatisrimss thanks for your reply, so that's perfect to me i can connect also my turntables and play vinyls, a great solution instead of having djm900 and cdj2000 nexus for less less money.
The XZ is overpriced trash. That tiny ancient screen is awful, the loop and memory buttons outdated, the CPU and RAM very limited. Also no SD, SSD and WIFI, no full track buffering and on-board analysis. You can't use 4 decks or even do longer beat jumps than 8. What a joke! 🤦♂️ forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360055224552-XDJ-XZ-max-8-beat-beat-jump-Why-
Great video with an honest, fair, and realistic comparison. When it comes down to it, it’s a personal choice based on what someone is looking for. Personally, I prefer the Prime4. Honestly, it really doesn’t matter to me what someone else prefers. If someone else likes the Pioneer, I’m cool with that too. If we both fill the dance floor and leave people happy, does it matter the brand? If we’re both having an awesome time doing it, the brand name matters very little.
I’m from the old school, and there is way to much emphasis on brand names these days. I’ve seen some younger DJs who go out and spend several thousand dollars on their first set-up. No matter the price, talent is not included with your purchase. I’ve also seen young guys who buy budget or used equipment, and they can rock the party better than some big bucks DJ with no talent. After all, Pauly D (or Pauly STD as I like to call him) has nothing but high priced equipment, and it sure hasn’t improved his “skills”, and I use that term very loosely when it comes to him. Of course, half the time his expensive equipment isn’t turned on or even plugged in. His adoring fan base consisting mostly of 13 year old girls wouldn’t notice anyway. Lol
As far as Pioneer dominating the club scene, I agree that’s very true. There’s no doubt that Pioneer makes a very good product. But they’ve also excelled at mass marketing and convincing a whole lot of people that high priced equals better performances. They’ve paid a lot of clubs and well known DJs lots and lots of money to promote Pioneer as “the best.” But, I think if we’re all honest about it, current similar priced controllers regardless of brand name aren’t really that much different from each other. Essentially they all do pretty much the same thing, with a few differences here and there. It seems like we see a new controller every week with a few minor additions, as the companies are in a constant battle to one-up each other. A big corporate pissing match.
I really hate to sound like the old guy saying “Back in my day “, but back in my day a DJ had to be flexible and able to adapt quickly on the fly. Everybody had their preferences, but when it came down to it, we could move the crowd with just about any set-up. If a club had Pioneer, we used Pioneer. If it was Denon, then we used Denon. Same with Numark, Gemini, Kmart, whatever. Lol DJs were judged much more based on their talent, and not on what brand they used.
Sorry for the much too long rant, but the number one advice I give anybody starting out is to find your own groove, perfect it, and don’t worry about the other guy. Use what you have access to and practice until your fingers bleed. People will be so busy having an amazing time, they definitely won’t care what you’re playing on.
perfect... absolutely agree...!
Me too man! the Prime 4 can't be beaten! (unless there is a prime 5 XD)
Keyword is Stand alone. The Denon wins because it has a better screen and you can plug an internal hard drive into it. So what if Pioneer is the club standard. The Denon hardware just beats the crap out of Pioneer this time. $1699 for the Denon also beats Pioneer. Pioneer makes a brand new unit and gives it 2 channel stand alone mode. Real smart Pioneer.
DjfrankiB yea Pioneer lost plus the Denon has WiFi!!!
i hear what your saying but...MacBook pro's are so small... and as I'm not a mobile dj, it wont be leaving my house.plus as a traktor s8 user + pioneer xdj700's for recordbox...I could buy that and have access to traktor, recordbox and serato via two machines
Can't say I disagree, except maybe with "so what if Pioneer is the club standard." By definition, quite a lot of people do. So, there's room in the market for a device like this.
Now, had they made it fully four-channel standalone, it'd be an obvious slam-dunk for many more DJs...
@@bboymac84 You wouldn't talk this way if you actually owned one. The XZ has a lot of advantages on the Prime 4 that has horrible platters, bad screen division, unintuitive mixer layout, no external FX ...
XDJ-XZ pro's:
1. Almost exactly the same as a CDJ/DJM setup (INDUSTRY STANDARD) with more functions for about one third of the price.... 2. Awesome mechanical jogwheels. 3. Much better FX section that also can be used on external inputs. 4. Better MIC-section with feedback remover. 5. Separate master equalising. 6. Completely compatible as midicontroller with Serato AND Rekordbox. (which is HUGE!) 7. Improved 64 bit DSP soundcard. 8. More intuitive layout that will make you feel at home in ANY DJ booth around the world. I can go on
DeeJay Pajtim does it have WiFi?
The Prime 4 even has Wi-Fi to play from streaming services like Beatport Link
Denon already killed this Product and pioneer still playing catch up. Also this isn't a full standalone like the denon since you need to prepare your music on laptop
I just plug my usb in and go. Serato and Rekordbox.. Lol i dont have prep anything. I just download on usb when i a buy it. Plug into the xz and go. Literally works fine.
The XZ is overpriced trash indeed. That tiny ancient screen is awful, the loop and memory buttons outdated, the CPU and RAM very limited. Also no SD, SSD and WIFI, no full track buffering and on-board analysis. You can't use 4 decks or even do longer beat jumps than 8. What a joke! 🤦♂️
forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360055224552-XDJ-XZ-max-8-beat-beat-jump-Why-
Though the Denon Prime 4 looks interesting and with more features I decided to order the Pioneer XDJ-XZ.
Why?
@@MrLawrence0071 Because pioneer is leader in dj industry and the XDJ-XZ is a great peace of kit.
@@pajtimdj
The XDJ is certainly awesome. Pioneer lead the clubs. Festivals already offer both solutions. Mobile market is quite diverse. I dare not say who sells most there. I do notice Denon cathching up there. Its good we have choice.
@@MrLawrence0071 pioneer has way better overall sound and fx too and mechanical wheels with jog adjustment.. The only thing that sucks is you can cant play all 4 channels at once unless you have a external source and laptop. But the sound quality and quality of build is better. Gurantee it last longer and breaks less then the denon. But we need to give it time to tell.
@@MB-sq2xv I have a Pio set and a denon set. I disagree. Sound is better on paper but not audible. The Denon can do stuff the Pio can't. Feature wise Denon is superior. Sorry. Pioneer rules with rekordbox. Engine Prime is lightyears behind there but gets the job done.
I own a Prime 4 and the audio out MURDERS the XZ man, by leagues...
Screw the features, the SOUND is stellar in comparison.
Pioneer = Mudbubbles v.s. Denon = Glass bells
hahaha your kidding prime 4 headphone amp output suck balls..
Best review / summary I've seen, that really helped me decide to go with the XZ :)
Denon Prime 4 all day every day love it no more 2020 end discussion....
I'd still rather the pioneer one to be honest, makes more sense to me when you use this at home and want the same or the full set-up when you're playing in a club.. Just wish the made it a 4 channel instead
It is 4 channel
So you get a volkswagen...because everybody has one... seriously? If all people act like this, clubs will keep lagging behind. All due respect, any respected DJ gets the gear he wants and since this is a mobile device, it is not meant for clubs. But if you want to pay more for less, by all means 😀
The pio is 4 channel like the prime, but you can only use 2 chans on the pio to play from the usb compared to use all 4 channels on the prime.
It is now possible to switch decks using the SHIFT button when
operating DJ software on XDJ XZ (firmware update 1.12)
Y'all kill me!!!!! its a matter of what your preference is honestly if you're a dj you should be able to play on anything!!! ive had and have pioneer (dd1000) denon mcx8000 and play on denon sc5000's for the most part its just the feel of the jog wheels...after that its the features each unit has to offer. Over all anyone can clearly see the prime offers more bang for the buck hands down!!!! It just comes down to which one you feel more comfotable using. The pioneer denon debate will always have people pushing pioneer becaue it's considered the industry standard even if denon makes a better product thats not widely accepted in clubs. People seem to think you get some kind of prestige because they own pioneer gear.
Would be amazing for Denon to integrate full size Prime M motorized platters!
when i first heard of prime 4 and knew it was their flagship I sort of expected it have motor wheels alas no...
Great video David. I’m defo upgrading from my XDJ-RX which I’ve had for over 4 years now.
Great vid!
Cheers!
Pioneer is for club DJs while Denon is for wedding DJs. FYI: Denon jog wheel is ultra sensitive and the Denon screen is useless in direct sunlight according to other reviewers.
For me it's the Prime 4 all the way!
Thank you for the comparison. We live in a Pioneer world and that won’t be changing anytime soon. The Prime 4 is the controller every DJ wants to use (would prefer full-size jogs). Its packed with very useful features. However, if you currently or aspire to play out (clubs, lounge, bars) for muscle memory purposes you should stick with the XZ. I just purchased a DDJ 1000 for a backup set. I’ll be selling that controller and upgrading to this once it becomes available.
Very well said!
Prime 4 is amazing
Wish list (not a complaint) 9” motorized platters and a fz knob with detents. Other than that it's been a dream to own
@@DJChristo3lektric Motorized platters are so niche. Wouldn’t make sense for Denon to do that I think.
@@JXVI depends the user. There is a reason they have 5000M
Any Respected DJ offer his rider and gets that. Any serious club goes with their time. For mobile purposes, this is also not an argument. The Prime layout is very similar. You see the denons show up more and more. Who says, in 2 years it will still be Pioneer? If you want the best, get the best. Simple.
XDJ-RZ could stand against the MCX8000 but Prime4 totally destroy it.💥
Thanks
The Denon Prime 4 is a real standalone system and one of the best features that is has is the key-shifting, you can synchronize by key only pressing one button. Pioneer, nowadays, leads in the software because Rekordbox analyses the tracks better than Engine Prime.
I still can't find any place were they get clear with the soundcard of the XZ. I think it's the most important thing. In my research i think i found that it have the same soundcard that the ddj 1000, that's not OK if is so expensive.
I also have this same question.
@@Ziggy_v2 same here
👍💯 slummilly mill in the house.
Depends on what you need. If you are brand minded, Pioneer still the winner because it's a club standard. But if you looking for features with reasonable price you have to choose Denon DJ Prime 4 because it has 4 channel standalone dj controller. Or you can consider Denon DJ MCX8000 4 channel dj controller with 2 channel standalone mode (same like XDJ XZ). Both Denon and Pioneer can use Serato DJ software.
But, the choice is up to you.
Since all Pioneer products were backorder for a while I decided to give the Denon Prime 4 a try. The result? I'm RUNNING back to Pioneer!! Had the Denon Prime for 2 weeks, already sold it back and already ordered the XDJ XZ, whatever time it take to get it I don't mind, I don't want to have anything to do with Denon dj, period. Even if it's more advanced by a pure technological point of you they missed where it matters the most, when you're mixing. All the faders, jog wheels and the way the functions works are WAY OFF Pioneer's PRECISION and makes you feel more like a passenger instead of the driver when you mix, compared to my XDJ RX2, let alone compared to the XDJ XZ. So for me it's confirmed: Pioneer = Home
Lmao, go home marketing boy. Never read so much nonsense.
yep denon prime 4 suck.. had it, sold it
When people choose between Denon or really anything other than pioneer and this it's going to be very hard to ignore those jog Wheels look I love using four channels and it would be great to have that stand alone but I've got so many options to use those and I only need two channels in the standalone so it works for me no matter
Bruh. It’s 2021. Pioneer needs to get with it and put a decent screen on these things.
I should stick with my ddj 1000, I will wait until they come out with the separate display one and the better layout. Very pricey it yet
Do you think Denon will make a prime series like the 4 with full size jogs ever?
I've learned to not attempt to predict what Denon DJ @denondjtv is willing and able to try! 🤣
That would be great!
github.com/pestrela/music_scripts/blob/master/traktor/README.md#why-i-like-big-jogwheels
Question I noticed the screen display on the Prime 4 shows the tracks scrolling vertically. Is there a way to position the tracks to scroll horizontally?
Shift + View should do the trick :)
Hi, can I ask you something .
I love all this DJ equipment, all the players, and i want to bye some of these.
I ask, is it possible on some of these dj players to autoplay all songs in the usb, with auto adjust and sync tempo on fixed value, auto mix crossfade like 4 sec mix time, and use the player like ordinary mp3 player ?
I am not DJ but I am crazy about these players and want to play at home.
Why on earth would Pioneer not let you mix 4 digital tracks from USB sticks?! That makes absolutely no sense.
if you run Rekordbox timecode DVS do you need to keep it connected to laptop and is the license included?
i was about to buy the XZ. i didnt want to wait a few days for it so i got the prime 4 just because i wanted a standalone. ive gotta say, the prime 4 BEATS the XZ. as much as i love pioneer, and as much as they KILL it in the game, they went too restrictive with the XZ.
@@potatoboidvidi lol 2 years strong and fuck pioneer bro
Was a nice and well put together comparison, BUT feels a bit fake comparing two of these dj controllers using photos or getting specs from on-line instead of having the units in person. I know these are expensive, but i don't think you can really make an opinion without 'hands-on' testing. But at least you've got some attention... :D
I haven't tried any Denon gear, but learnt that anytime I went away from Pioneer (like Numark/Reloop...) always found myself missing something on a non Pioneer set up.
It's hard to explain, but with Pioneer i always felt the connection with music while playing but with the other brands things were just without passion. :(
Was a little bit tempted by the Prime 4 back then, but now I am still not sure if bought that or save some money for the XZ...
Having a RX2 now so I am not really pushed paying the double price because of two larger jog wheels.
Hands-on review is coming as soon as it arrives! Not sure what's fake about this video, I got all my information directly from a press release, but thanks for watching and writing 3 paragraphs about the topic. At least I got some attention. 😎
Does it work with VIRTUAL DJ ??
The XZ doesn‘t allow 4 deck, USB music source control, does it? Also heard the Prime 4 software is light years behind Rekordbox, Serato & Co.
The engine prime softWare used to prepare and analyse is unfortunately behind on rekordbox. But it does the job already. The software on the media players themselves however is lightyears ahead of anything pioneer has. It has a multicore processor system that can analyze tracks on the fly. Contrary to what some claim this is pretty fast. So basically, if you’re a real DJ who just knows his shit, you plug in your USB and start playing just as you had to do when turntables where all you had. 😀
Lawrence O Thanks Lawrence 🤟
Right so no mention of Stage link or Wifi for Denon Prime 4 🤔 No mention of Vertical or Horizontal waves etc. Okaaay
This was a quick-n-dirty comparison rather than a full review video. If you'd like to know my more thorough thoughts on the PRIME 4, you are welcome to look here: czcams.com/video/zzcyfJ35250/video.html
Or here: czcams.com/video/ES6aZyNrtyE/video.html
I think the Pioneer wins simply because you won't find Denon/Prime gear in the club unless you're popular enough to command a rider. Been waiting for something like this forever! Though I wish they would've made it 2 channels to make it smaller and lighter.
YEP 2 CHANNELS WITH THIS MIXER IS THE BEST CHOICE BUT WITH SWITCH TO 3/4
The fact that I can walk in a club with un prepped tracks makes or better yet play a set using WiFi makes the Denon win instantly!!
@@bboymac84 I agee that the Denon is the better unit (minus the jog wheel size and fx) but I don't know any clubs that have Denon equipment in-house though.
There is no point making new 2 ch stand-alone, XDJ-RX2 allready exists, and if you want something even smaller - XDJ RR
If you want the experience of spinning on a full NXS2 rig with muscle memory that translates to every single DJ booth, in every single city around the world... XDJ-XZ
If you want the experience of spinning on two Numark NDX-400 connected to an Android tablet with 4-deck app installed and that you will need to take with you everywhere to every gig... Denon Prime 4
I played on prime fours and I just couldn't stand the jog Wheels I so used to either actual records record controllers with serato or cdjs and I really don't want to use anything but those things and let's face it records just aren't used a whole lot anymore unless you're doing a hip hop set with a lot of scratching and s***
Can I use my iPad Pro with record box to activate all 4 channels or do I need to use a laptop?
I'm not aware of any Rekordbox app that allows you to play from a mobile device.
To use channels 3 and 4, you either need to use a laptop + Rekordbox DJ or Serato... or, you need to connect external sources to the back of the unit.
@@PassionateDJ Well i got a bit older stand alone, the XDJ-R1 you can use the pioneer app to play from your phone.
Truthfully this in my opinion a full stand alone, cause you can play from cd/midi-laptop/usb or wifi connected phone/tablet tho i must say is more Apple orientated then Android.
Must confess that i still love my cdj-1000 mk3 set cause of the bigger jogwheels.. it's for some seems a 'big thing' the missing size agreed that for myself is choosing bigger wheels over smaller ones. :)
Can I record a set within the controller? I have a Mixtape ver. 1 and the mp3 quality just isn’t there. Thanks.
Yes! To record your performance to USB drive connected to USB2 slot, use the MASTER REC (WAKE UP) button to start/stop recording.
Or, of course, you could record in software if you're using a laptop + Rekordbox DJ (or Serato DJ, eventually)
They both can record sets. Denon can do it on hard drive on system. Pioneer on USB.
could someone tell me wich would be better for including two vinyl turn tables?
Denon Prime 4 all the way.
Pioneer XDJ XZ. You can't use the effects on the Denon with external sources.
Can i connect 2 turntables on channel 1 and 4 to play records in stand alone way, without using the laptop and recordbox, on pioneer xdj xz?
Yes you can
Xz works as mixer just connect deck 3 and 4 and you good to go, use fx on turntables
@@gatisrimss thanks for your reply, so that's perfect to me i can connect also my turntables and play vinyls, a great solution instead of having djm900 and cdj2000 nexus for less less money.
@@FlashWarriorSala2 yes, no waste of money. Im buying xz next week, same reason, becouse there is possibility to connect turntables and other Cdjs :)
@@FlashWarriorSala2 by the way, check this out
www.thediscdjstore.com/pioneer-xdj-xz-all-in-one-dj-system-plx1000-turntables-bundle-deal.html
Prime is the best
loving the denon prime futures but can.i use it with djjay pro2 ?
Kind of hard to review gear when all you have is pictures. Have you actually put ur hands on the gear?
This video landed a few hours before the XZ was even available. So no, I hadn't put my hands on one 🙄
also I didn't use the word review
not very long after today the Denon DJ Prime 4 will be the foundation for the club standard future all-in-ones
You'll find out in time how wrong you are
XZ should have been priced sub-2000$
Pioneer totally lost it, both the game and their mind.
Just look at their new CDJ-3000 joke for 2400 bucks.
Who the f wud connect a usb to xz 😂?
The XZ is overpriced trash. That tiny ancient screen is awful, the loop and memory buttons outdated, the CPU and RAM very limited. Also no SD, SSD and WIFI, no full track buffering and on-board analysis. You can't use 4 decks or even do longer beat jumps than 8. What a joke! 🤦♂️
forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360055224552-XDJ-XZ-max-8-beat-beat-jump-Why-
For 2200$ definitely unacceptable!
The moment when you say, xdj xz for home, its a venue club gear or studio, not home
Please in italian lenguage
"per favore" according to Google Translate.
learn english dude, it's the universal language.
Pioneer obviously dnnon lol amatures
*amateurs
@@PassionateDJ grammar nazis are here best you can do reply was as bad as this vid