NI is a scam. They randomly take peoples money and won't activate the products so you can use them. I have a brand new Maschine 3 that I paid $700, and its a brick. Never used it 1 time. Guitar Center won't take them back, and there's no contact information listed for N!.
I'm still using the original S4, but my DJ laptop can't upgrade to Windows 11 and I'm not planning on buying a new one. I want to migrate to a standalone system before Windows 10 support ends, so the clock is ticking. Right now Denon is looking good, but I think I'll hold out one more generation if I can.
They won't because they are software company and they will sell software, not standalone h/w. But if they could implement traktor i to device? Who knowd
You left out that the Denon products also do DMX lighting controls via SoundSwitch or Philips hue. The Prime Go'ss are great with Minirg 3's and Subs too if you want to spend a little more and play in the middle of nowhere!
Nice guide to standalone DJ systems! Going laptop-free definitely has its advantages, like eliminating potential issues with updates and system requirements. I love that these systems provide a simpler setup with fewer wires and a smaller footprint. Plus, having the screen at the center of your workspace keeps you focused on the crowd. One perspective to consider is the familiarity with Rekordbox and CDJ setups, which can be beneficial for DJs aiming to play in clubs. Excited to read more about the hardware options!
Ever since I started using a controller and laptop, all I ever wanted is just a portable standalone dj system. It feels like we're on a great journey that throws us back to the old times of grooveboxes but better and with more possibilities
Personally, I'd lean towards the Mixstream Pro for the price alone. The only thing I would change on it would be to drop the on-board speakers in favor of four more cue buttons for each deck and better FX options.
Pioneer standalone Dj controllers are overvalued OMO, I remember when I started Djing back in the 90s Technics where exactly what Pioneer is today, I sold my pair of SL 1200Mk 2 for 500 US, then I got a Denon 2100f back in the 90s, then move into PC using BPM Studio cause I was working in a Radio Station....after that I stop Djing for some years.... till I started using the cPionnee cdj800, then move to Dj Controllers bought the M audio X Ponent use it for a couple of years, till I got into the Mix Pro's by Numark, I still have a NS6 and love my 4trak also stantons turntable setup, but now a days Im looking to upgrade to a standalone Dj controllers, want to take off the Laptop from the deck, your video is give me an idea of what exactly I'm gonna buy, thanks for posting.
This is so close to what I've been waiting for. If I could get one strictly for DVS(no built-in controllers) that fits compact between two turntables and still has a screen that would be perfect for me. THAT'S what I'm holding out for.
Hi love the channel. Thank you for all your awesome reviews. Got a question for you. Would you please recommend the best for my live stream radio show with talk over button effect so far the only one I’ve been able to find is the rane four if I can’t find anything else with that voiceover affect its very important, I have a deep voice and I like for my voice to cut through the music that voiceover button is a must on a DJ controller please help any recommendations thank you so much. Keep playing the music and making people smile. That’s what it’s all about.
I enjoyed this video and some of the things @PassionateDJ pointed out. Since I am a user of Pioneer and Rekorbox, I would choose the RX3 as my stand-alone. One of the things I like about it besides the 10" screen is it has the same size jog wheels as the DDJ 800 which I currently use. As far as the XZ and the RR, I was disappointed that Pioneer didn't make the XZ a full-blown 4 channel stand-alone unit. Yes, it is good if you own turntables or planning to purchase a CDJ but if you can't afford it, what's the point? I feel that the XZ is an overpriced 2 channel pretending to be a 4 channel unit. The other mistake Pioneer made was discontinuing the RX2 yet keeping the RR. WHY!!! The RR is garbage. Pioneer should have discontinued it for no one like,, and it was not worse the price. Denon has come a long way and their hardware/systems are top class. I will not switch due to my preference for Pioneer and Rekorbox. I know some DJs who have and don't regret it. I said you choose the system that works best for you.
Not to argue or to get in a debate, but could you expand and what you mean by the XZ is a two-channel pretending to be a four-channel? What do you mean by that?
Thanks, great review! Any thoughts on streaming your dj set including video using all-in-one devices, understandable that will require a laptop this time just for software like obs or other - any technical examples of how does set up look if you want to stream to services like youtube etc?
I tried the Mixstream, but it's not for me. I didn't like the effects. The track analysis does a bad job. No full kill eq/isolator setting. I love the concept though! 🌈
Great review, thanks very much indeed. If anyone out there is strapped for cash then I can absolutely recommend the discontinued ( so used only) but amazing Denon DN hd 2500. It's as tough and robust as anything and is reliable 👍👍
I make music since 15 years and i'm discovering DJ hardware since 2 weeks via youtube. i was never more hyped by something doing it myself than this. Once i was dreaming about an original Fender Stratocaster but now it is a standalone digital or vinyl DJ setup. Its just fascinating to present your favorite songs from nice artists to your crowd. Its hard to chose a music genre for my own set (in my imagination). I guess the Pioneer DDJ 400 is ok for the beginning. to bad its not standalone
Ddj400 is a good controller as its bus powered and does everything a nexus or ddj1000 does in all honesty the only drawback being slightly smaller jogs and pitch fader. The denon prime go is the only good portable controller currently that's battery powered (makes sense for a all in one controller) but the jogs are too small hopefully more companies innovate. I do prefer to stay rekordbox so I can play clubs easy with a USB aside that there is loads of better tech out there over pioneer it's just pioneer are standardised in clubs so makes sense to be compatible
Great video. I'm stuck between a Pioneer 2 channel with more effects or Denon 4 channel with less effects. Although I like the Denon design & color more!
There are some DJs like myself who have had bad experiences with denon for instance I had the MC 4000 and knobs and faders broke off because of non-solid build construction I do a live radio broadcast on TikTok. Can you help me pick out a controller that will get the job done four or two channels is fine I
Good comparison. More neutral and unbiased this time, though you still overemphasized the Pioneer EFX quality, also, why didn't you mention the SC5000 when telling about the XDJ-700/1000? Much better for the price. I would go with a RX2 (ebay), or Prime 2/4. The RX3 has the same size and price as the Prime 4, while being far inferior. The "Pioneer clubstandard" shouldn't be any more excuse nowadays.
Good presentation👍 Personally if they add a fold/hideaway "real keyboard", many djs (like myself) would be more interested on adapting to these units. -MB
@@PassionateDJ Yes, you can use a USB keyboard but it takes up it's only USB port. Not really an issue if you keep your music on an SD tho. Can't confirm if it works with a hub tho, would imagine would need to be powered if that's the case.
i was thinking of getting the RR but i got the Reloop Touch on sale brand new for $500! but for $1000 the XDJ-RR is a good deal still and i like the size and the screen it has also and pioneer support told me the RR sounds just as good as a DDJ-800
Not sure why laptops are a no-go for mobile setups, I always see DJs still connecting their laptops to these setups to browse, especially if you have to play a whole evening or day🤷🏼♂️ Having said that, I love my Roland DJ-707M for mobile gigs.
The bigger, more expensive standalones are pretty close in layout and feel to separate CDJs/mixer. While not the only way to transition to club-style laptop-free mixing, it’s a good system to keep at home to practice if buying a full club set-up is overkill.
RX3 isn't just standalone. You can plug in usb and use performance mode on rekordbox (albeit it doesn't work quite as quickly as using a usb stick). So it can be a midi controller as well, making it incredibly versatile. It really feels like the closest unit to club pioneer set up (with a far better screen than XZ).
if you connect the rx3 to your laptop does everything you see on rekordbox on your laptop screen just pop up on the rx3 screen? and also can you still record your mix with a usb if you are streaming the music from rekord box on the laptop?
Serato is a nightmare. Its nice to use if you can get it working. I started on Serato, and was happy with it, but it was just one problem after another. Go to their website and read the forums to see what kind of issues people are having.
Thanks for the video, i have a couple of Denon SC5000M Media players. what mixer would you recommend using with the SC5000M i would be using in standalone mode dont want to use a laptop. Thanks
ive owned my prime 4 for 2 yrs now and I love it, i just have a couple of wishes for it. But the best bang for my dollar, the prime 4 was the best bet. i hope we can get engine os to adopt stems ..yes i know serato 3.0 stems is out and virtual dj 2023 is out but i do not like the stem seperation on serato 3.0 . sounds wonky to me..not natural. i dont likey. until i can get a natural sounding stem program i wont be diving in. and paying for virtual dj every month is out of the question. i paid alot of money for my equipment, im not gonna pay for a monthly service to use said extensive equipment.
Pioneer keeps missing the mark on the standalone market for me personally. I was close to picking up the XDJ-XZ, but I couldn't pull the trigger simply because it isn't truly four-channel standalone unless you have a laptop to unlock channel 3/4. Like WTF Pioneer. Seriously. It would have been perfect for the time being. I still have my DDJ-800, and it is doing fine for me, minus only being two-channel. I just really want to ditch the laptop, and I am too invested in the Pioneer ecosystem to switch things up.
The MIXON 8 is a controller instead of a standalone, so I don’t cover it here, but I do have other coverage here on the channel. MIXON 8 is getting a little dated, but is still a great versatile four-channel controller!
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Native instruments need to make a standalone system more than ever now
NI is a scam. They randomly take peoples money and won't activate the products so you can use them. I have a brand new Maschine 3 that I paid $700, and its a brick. Never used it 1 time. Guitar Center won't take them back, and there's no contact information listed for N!.
I'm still using the original S4, but my DJ laptop can't upgrade to Windows 11 and I'm not planning on buying a new one. I want to migrate to a standalone system before Windows 10 support ends, so the clock is ticking. Right now Denon is looking good, but I think I'll hold out one more generation if I can.
As much as I wish they would, you know it will be way overpriced
They won't because they are software company and they will sell software, not standalone h/w. But if they could implement traktor i to device? Who knowd
@@mrbishi634 You too lol. My original S4 still lives. I was gonna get a standalone too but then I got into 4 band eq and I want to use 6 channels.
You left out that the Denon products also do DMX lighting controls via SoundSwitch or Philips hue. The Prime Go'ss are great with Minirg 3's and Subs too if you want to spend a little more and play in the middle of nowhere!
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Nice guide to standalone DJ systems! Going laptop-free definitely has its advantages, like eliminating potential issues with updates and system requirements. I love that these systems provide a simpler setup with fewer wires and a smaller footprint. Plus, having the screen at the center of your workspace keeps you focused on the crowd. One perspective to consider is the familiarity with Rekordbox and CDJ setups, which can be beneficial for DJs aiming to play in clubs. Excited to read more about the hardware options!
Ever since I started using a controller and laptop, all I ever wanted is just a portable standalone dj system.
It feels like we're on a great journey that throws us back to the old times of grooveboxes but better and with more possibilities
Virtual Dj needs to make a standalone controller in 2022
Esp w the addition of the stems option w vj. I would be super into this
The mixstream pro now works with it 😁
but basically all controllers work with it?
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Personally, I'd lean towards the Mixstream Pro for the price alone. The only thing I would change on it would be to drop the on-board speakers in favor of four more cue buttons for each deck and better FX options.
Pioneer standalone Dj controllers are overvalued OMO, I remember when I started Djing back in the 90s Technics where exactly what Pioneer is today, I sold my pair of SL 1200Mk 2 for 500 US, then I got a Denon 2100f back in the 90s, then move into PC using BPM Studio cause I was working in a Radio Station....after that I stop Djing for some years.... till I started using the cPionnee cdj800, then move to Dj Controllers bought the M audio X Ponent use it for a couple of years, till I got into the Mix Pro's by Numark, I still have a NS6 and love my 4trak also stantons turntable setup, but now a days Im looking to upgrade to a standalone Dj controllers, want to take off the Laptop from the deck, your video is give me an idea of what exactly I'm gonna buy, thanks for posting.
This is so close to what I've been waiting for. If I could get one strictly for DVS(no built-in controllers) that fits compact between two turntables and still has a screen that would be perfect for me.
THAT'S what I'm holding out for.
Well done! A+
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Dude, AWESOME JOB. Your video helped me so Fn much! Thxs.
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Second: XDJ-RX3
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How can i stream music with the pioneer?
Loved your podcast! So happy to see you guys are making videos!
Thank you, Daniel! The podcast continues on the new podcast channel! Appreciate the support!
Great Review. Really helped out a lot with making my choice
Hi love the channel. Thank you for all your awesome reviews. Got a question for you. Would you please recommend the best for my live stream radio show with talk over button effect so far the only one I’ve been able to find is the rane four if I can’t find anything else with that voiceover affect its very important, I have a deep voice and I like for my voice to cut through the music that voiceover button is a must on a DJ controller please help any recommendations thank you so much. Keep playing the music and making people smile. That’s what it’s all about.
I enjoyed this video and some of the things @PassionateDJ pointed out. Since I am a user of Pioneer and Rekorbox, I would choose the RX3 as my stand-alone. One of the things I like about it besides the 10" screen is it has the same size jog wheels as the DDJ 800 which I currently use. As far as the XZ and the RR, I was disappointed that Pioneer didn't make the XZ a full-blown 4 channel stand-alone unit. Yes, it is good if you own turntables or planning to purchase a CDJ but if you can't afford it, what's the point? I feel that the XZ is an overpriced 2 channel pretending to be a 4 channel unit. The other mistake Pioneer made was discontinuing the RX2 yet keeping the RR. WHY!!! The RR is garbage. Pioneer should have discontinued it for no one like,, and it was not worse the price. Denon has come a long way and their hardware/systems are top class. I will not switch due to my preference for Pioneer and Rekorbox. I know some DJs who have and don't regret it. I said you choose the system that works best for you.
Not much to disagree with, there! Always appreciate when someone can see on both sides of the fence. Thanks for watching and commenting, Antoine.
Not to argue or to get in a debate, but could you expand and what you mean by the XZ is a two-channel pretending to be a four-channel? What do you mean by that?
Great information!
Thanks, great review! Any thoughts on streaming your dj set including video using all-in-one devices, understandable that will require a laptop this time just for software like obs or other - any technical examples of how does set up look if you want to stream to services like youtube etc?
I tried the Mixstream, but it's not for me. I didn't like the effects. The track analysis does a bad job. No full kill eq/isolator setting. I love the concept though! 🌈
Very very informative thank you so much!
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I've been using Stanton SCS.4DJ for a while ;)
Nice one! That’s a throwback, but ahead of its time!
I've got one of those too. Haven't used it since getting my xdj-rx though.
Oh wow, indeed a cool legacy product!
I had it and it pioneered the standalone dj system. A pity that Stanton did not continue to make updates to the OS
Traktor best software, needs a standalone.
Great review, thanks very much indeed. If anyone out there is strapped for cash then I can absolutely recommend the discontinued ( so used only) but amazing Denon DN hd 2500. It's as tough and robust as anything and is reliable 👍👍
Thanks for checking it out, and the suggestion, Isaac. :)
I make music since 15 years and i'm discovering DJ hardware since 2 weeks via youtube. i was never more hyped by something doing it myself than this. Once i was dreaming about an original Fender Stratocaster but now it is a standalone digital or vinyl DJ setup. Its just fascinating to present your favorite songs from nice artists to your crowd.
Its hard to chose a music genre for my own set (in my imagination). I guess the Pioneer DDJ 400 is ok for the beginning. to bad its not standalone
Ddj400 is a good controller as its bus powered and does everything a nexus or ddj1000 does in all honesty the only drawback being slightly smaller jogs and pitch fader. The denon prime go is the only good portable controller currently that's battery powered (makes sense for a all in one controller) but the jogs are too small hopefully more companies innovate. I do prefer to stay rekordbox so I can play clubs easy with a USB aside that there is loads of better tech out there over pioneer it's just pioneer are standardised in clubs so makes sense to be compatible
Can you hook up cdj 2000's or 3's to any of these?
Denon Prime 4 is the king!! The excuse to buy a Pioneer XDJ-RZ as an affordable option to a CDJ set up is a little ridiculous.
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I still use The Stanton scs 4DJ as a back up or an additional source. (Works as a controller also.)
"analysis paralysis" thanks for diagnosing all my problems 🤣
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What headset are you using in this video?
Thanks
Great video. I'm stuck between a Pioneer 2 channel with more effects or Denon 4 channel with less effects. Although I like the Denon design & color more!
There are some DJs like myself who have had bad experiences with denon for instance I had the MC 4000 and knobs and faders broke off because of non-solid build construction I do a live radio broadcast on TikTok. Can you help me pick out a controller that will get the job done four or two channels is fine I
Good comparison. More neutral and unbiased this time, though you still overemphasized the Pioneer EFX quality, also, why didn't you mention the SC5000 when telling about the XDJ-700/1000? Much better for the price. I would go with a RX2 (ebay), or Prime 2/4. The RX3 has the same size and price as the Prime 4, while being far inferior. The "Pioneer clubstandard" shouldn't be any more excuse nowadays.
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I love the Mixstream 'cause of the flat screen; Prime Go got the same flat screen, but is too small.
Good presentation👍
Personally if they add a fold/hideaway "real keyboard", many djs (like myself) would be more interested on adapting to these units.
-MB
For what it’s worth, the PRIME units will accept a USB keyboard :)
(At least, the 4 does. I’m making an assumption on the others.)
@@PassionateDJ Yes, you can use a USB keyboard but it takes up it's only USB port. Not really an issue if you keep your music on an SD tho. Can't confirm if it works with a hub tho, would imagine would need to be powered if that's the case.
Thanks for this tutorial! Does any of these streaming controller also support features like offline locker from beatport pro?
i was thinking of getting the RR but i got the Reloop Touch on sale brand new for $500! but for $1000 the XDJ-RR is a good deal still and i like the size and the screen it has also and pioneer support told me the RR sounds just as good as a DDJ-800
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Not sure why laptops are a no-go for mobile setups, I always see DJs still connecting their laptops to these setups to browse, especially if you have to play a whole evening or day🤷🏼♂️ Having said that, I love my Roland DJ-707M for mobile gigs.
You didn’t mention the Newmark NV stand alone the first one
Just waiting for a standalone unit with a send/return
Are the standalone controllers something that you would recommend for a beginner or a traditional controller with a laptop?
The bigger, more expensive standalones are pretty close in layout and feel to separate CDJs/mixer. While not the only way to transition to club-style laptop-free mixing, it’s a good system to keep at home to practice if buying a full club set-up is overkill.
RX3 isn't just standalone. You can plug in usb and use performance mode on rekordbox (albeit it doesn't work quite as quickly as using a usb stick). So it can be a midi controller as well, making it incredibly versatile. It really feels like the closest unit to club pioneer set up (with a far better screen than XZ).
Most of these systems indeed work as controllers as well.
if you connect the rx3 to your laptop does everything you see on rekordbox on your laptop screen just pop up on the rx3 screen? and also can you still record your mix with a usb if you are streaming the music from rekord box on the laptop?
BTW the record shelf on the wall...is it customized or did you buy it as is?
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For these stand alones or other Serato type controllers..can you plug in a radio??
Well, definitely never had this question, but I don't see why not (assuming the radio has a headphones jack, and the DJ unit has an AUX input)!
Bro ...please review XDJ XZ , can still use 2 turn table , i still use DJM 500, is it ok for beginner
Nobody has made a All-in-one such as the newmark mix deck quad... Just wish Denbon or Pioneer or both would make a higher quality one
Why do clubs only use reckord box , serato seems so much better IMO
Serato is a nightmare. Its nice to use if you can get it working. I started on Serato, and was happy with it, but it was just one problem after another. Go to their website and read the forums to see what kind of issues people are having.
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The best one is Pioneer XDJ XZ
Anyone kindly recommends me Which type of dj best for reggaeton ?…. Under $1000
Thanks for the video, i have a couple of Denon SC5000M Media players. what mixer would you recommend using with the SC5000M i would be using in standalone mode dont want to use a laptop. Thanks
Rane 70, Rane 70 A-trak version, Rane 72/72mk2 is what I use. Or any of the Pioneer S-series mixers
hmm, so where are the turntables?
In other videos for which the titles would make more sense.
ive owned my prime 4 for 2 yrs now and I love it, i just have a couple of wishes for it. But the best bang for my dollar, the prime 4 was the best bet. i hope we can get engine os to adopt stems ..yes i know serato 3.0 stems is out and virtual dj 2023 is out but i do not like the stem seperation on serato 3.0 . sounds wonky to me..not natural. i dont likey. until i can get a natural sounding stem program i wont be diving in. and paying for virtual dj every month is out of the question. i paid alot of money for my equipment, im not gonna pay for a monthly service to use said extensive equipment.
what happens if someone at a party as for a quest for songs online
You fulfill the request or you don’t - just like any gig! :)
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hello why did they discontinue the prime 2?thanks.
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can you dj without a JOG WHEELS and just use mp3 files?
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when you wait the whole video for a XDJ RX3 and Denon Prime 2 comparison 🙃
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Was the RX3 updated to analyze on the fly now?
Nope. Gotta upgrade to the Mixstream Pro for that!
@@PassionateDJ I’m #Denon4Lyfe anyway. :-p got the tattoo on my butt to prove it
Pioneer keeps missing the mark on the standalone market for me personally. I was close to picking up the XDJ-XZ, but I couldn't pull the trigger simply because it isn't truly four-channel standalone unless you have a laptop to unlock channel 3/4. Like WTF Pioneer. Seriously. It would have been perfect for the time being. I still have my DDJ-800, and it is doing fine for me, minus only being two-channel. I just really want to ditch the laptop, and I am too invested in the Pioneer ecosystem to switch things up.
i love 4 deck is best and i am dj for now
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Why haven't you tell about Denon mcx8000?
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MCX8000 is discontinued. I still Jam with mine .
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I guess native instruments just doesn't want to enter stand-alone space, bummer for Traktor users
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The background music is really irritating
Why no one talked about the ddj rzx???
Two reasons: it’s not a standalone DJ system, and it’s discontinued.
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@@Rew1ndOfficial I do mention it on my controller guide, though!
Just saying mpc live 2
MPC Live 2 is a great product, but it isn’t in the same category as everything else here.
Under 1000$?
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999.00!?
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And thanks for stealing my phrase. ( keep on spinning)
Guess we'll both end up dizzy!
bro talks too much.
Next time I’ll review using shapes and hand motions.
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Any input about the Mixon 8?
Appreciate your response.
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The MIXON 8 is a controller instead of a standalone, so I don’t cover it here, but I do have other coverage here on the channel. MIXON 8 is getting a little dated, but is still a great versatile four-channel controller!
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