those who dont appreciate life do not deserve life
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- čas přidán 29. 03. 2010
- Jigsaw is trying to tell Eric Mathews what it means to be alive and how people take life and people for granite. "Those who don't appreciate life do not deserve life". Yet another life lesson brought to you by Jigsaw :)
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"In a split second your worlds cracked open. You look at things differently, you smell things differently. You savor everything be it a glass of water or a walk in the park" -John Kramer
This has got to be one of the best scenes in any Saw movie
Its my favourite
Did donnie wahlberg use his boston accent or his Massachusetts accent in saw 2?
@@classynella337why do you ask this all the time?
John Kramer is a fucking great character.
Agreed
Facts
He is not character bro, he is life in human form.
Fax
the reaction of Eric when John asks what's the cure for cancer is priceless
I love this scene, because it includes so much facts about the real life.
its been 11 years do you still appreciate life?
@@error_error909 I do stlll, watched this when it realised,I would kneel for a guy like that, plz come and get me
wait till he finds about encyclopedias
@@error_error909 I always appreciate the life. But somebody still not...
He's in a "safe" place, still gets me evrytime
Jigsaw is like the new quotes for life. He is wise.
gul daniel he is psycho or genius or both
Ugh no
@@adrianziecik6280 He is not psycho. Somebody says he is schizo. But i think just a normal guy than current humanity. Because of the results. Current justice system is shit. But he just finds the perfect way. Dont lie to urself. Nobody takes trauma by this tests. Its designed for face ur own fears. And this is one way to fix ur soul. Better than therapy shit. Humanity is growing with pain. Not with therapy. Its just freezing ur brain. I know this. Because i see. Just uncurable ones get trauma. Like Amanda. And nothing save her. She deserved die. Life said this. Not me. Sorry. Hoffman is psycho one. And caged forever by jigsaw's own rule. Because he is unfixable. Like Amanda. Just haves some diffrence. But have same thing. Uncurable ones. He decaying in this cage. Like burning in hell to eternity. He deserved this. Humanity is the just confused one. And they need a test for fix their confuse. I hope one time some guy comes like jigsaw and save the world from all of this bullshits. Like messiah...
I like Saw II. Matter of fact it’s my favorite one in the franchise. But I can’t overlook how much Eric pissed me off in this movie. The guy had the easiest game in the entire franchise. A conversation. No sedatives, no traps, no need for bodily harm to survive. Just a talk. And he blew it. All because accountability feels like an attack to those unwilling to change.
Eric: My son appreciates his life
John: Yeah but do your appreciate yours, do you appreciate your sons'?
Eric: BULLSHIT!
John: Don't forget the rules!
Jigsaw: I've never killed anyone the decisions are up to them
Eric: yeah well putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to pull the trigger is still murder
I really like that line
You’d think we’d have learned that by now, what with all the messages people send each other online telling them to kill themselves.
im amanda’s trap, he put a knocked out (but alive) dude in the room, gave amanda a knife, told her the new was in his stomach, and that he was already dead. that’s pretty much murder
@@taternater7495 what did he say after the line of "forcing them to pull the trigger is murder"
@@Omar-vg3fz”since when is force a problem for you” meaning detective matthews has done some really dirty things
Fictional movie......wise words.
These movies made me appreciate life and the people in my life
me too ❤ jigsaw is my favorite movie
John tells Eric that if he told him the exact time he would die it would 'shatter his world'
How does Eric die? Two ice blocks shattering against his head, after being told when the time he would dying is.. (Riggs charging through the door)
Holy sh... TRUE!
Good point dude 👍
Ka ....BOOM.
2:00, the only time we ever hear John not speak in his creepy jigsaw voice
What about his death bed?
@@marcusblackwell2372 Or him yelling at Jill or Hoffman?
Honestly I would have sat down and had a good conversation with John. About life and everything.
I used to be a prime candidate to be a jigsaw victim. Now I am living my life to the fullest
recently losing alot of blood has made me really appreciate living my life. the human body is so fragile every human should care and safe guard it.
Tobin Bell was the best actor for this franchise to portray this character he literally is John Kramer i feel like Tobin Bell somehow relates with John and understands the portray of this character so well
I am thankful for my life. I am glad i can walk and have all of my senses. I'm thanjkful I am not being pimped out by my father or some scumbag of a man. I am thankful for the stuff my parents buy for but when I look at others and how they suffer I begin to think that maybe humanity doesn't deserve life. I know it seems unrealisitic but I wish everyone could be happy. I wish to rid the world of sorrow and suffering, but it is in our disgusting nature to cause harm to those. I love Saw because
Taylor Miller
Humanity deserves life just not all of it
Take the world for what it is not how you like it to be. My mother is a narcissist abuser yet I must continue to tolerate her. If you are thinking about not being pimped out by your father, you must have some serious family problems buddy
@@sidd9150 apple didnt fall far from a tree
@@DvineWakandandian_Warrior aww at least you acknowledged you didn’t fall far from the tree, being honest is a good sign😌
This is most "soft" technique for "how i hurt humanity to give a lesson ?" trust me.
True those that don’t appreciate life don’t deserve life. Just like those who don’t appreciate and kids don’t deserve kids.
The best part about the entire series until Johns death before the series was kind of shit, he never truly commits murder, he literally is a scientist in his own agenda, testing to see if a human is willing to live through means of desperation, whether it being the loss of a limb, or part of your sanity, or even a loved one/friend.
He put Amanda and her friend in one room, with Amanda wearing the death mask and her friend having the key in his stomach. Jigsaw made the situation in which one person dies surely, meaning Jigsaw indeed murdered a person, he just didn't know which one is going to be killed.
Saw III says hello. The people that the dad had to save had no way of saving themself. The only thing they could do is speak. They could apologize sincerely, but their lives still depended on the dude
He killed everyone like Eric said here John just deflected what he said by saying since when was it a problem with you. He thinks he’s doing good but he’s killing it’s the point they aren’t trying to say John is right.
very meaning quote. its too true. this inspires me to live on.
Once you see death up close then you'll understand the value of life
Well he isn't wrong (considering the fact that I've tried)
Me at 4 in the morning
Finding that I also felt that cold clinical way they telling you something so chilling and changes your life..
“sense when was forcing a problem to you…”
Tobin Bell is a great actor
it teaches you real lessons. this amazing series touches many subjects most people turn away from and hope dissapear. Rascim, rape, theft....etc. Jigsaw isn't a monster. His methods are a little harsh (alot) but he too was effected by pain and that selfish man who harmed his wife. I just belive things would be better if humanity was gone. Enough ramblining and it sucks tha there are no more saw series but everything must end, sadly.
Taylor Miller
those who don't appreciate life , don't deserve life
Taylor Miller 4 years later Jigsaw confirmed for October 27 2017
@@angel_5875 And 5 years later after your comment, Saw X has been announced
I truly believe that this exactly the kind of Accountability we need these days. Given what people do to others, I’d say it’s fair.
Words of wisdom....🖤
funny thing about this scene is that Eric is mark whalberg's brother and founding member of the New Kids On The Block
John just deflects the right answers a judge would say to him if he was ever caught and tried. He said since when was force a problem to you basically saying he knows he’s forcing people into these situations therefore killing them
Actually, he's just showcasing the irony of Eric's words because of his police brutality, planting fake evidence and wrongfully arresting innocent people, which requires well force. Police are supposed to enforce law in the most correct way, what Eric has done isn't correct.
I love his voice 😰😭
i honestly think this series broke my brain :[
Imagine if him and Hannibal having a conversation
I'm looking for lesson clips of Jigsaw and I found it thank you!
this fact has changed me... I appreciate my life now
i love this!!!!!!!
wanna be him when i get old
Jc Tejada a psychopath who has people play games and decapitate their limbs and kill people playing games?
U wanna be a murderer???
Eric really was trying to beat his nature here, you can see him actually try. His SON'S LIFE was at risk, of course anyone would break as more time passed. However this scene showed that Eric was trying, he could have changed had John told him his son was safe. Really disappointing about what happened to Eric, Adam, & Mark for that matter.
He was not trying, you could clearly see he’s not really interested in listening to John, he’s just desperate as hell to get his son back
@@bot01020it cost him his life in the end for him
What did detective Matthews say to his son I couldn't understand
King_ Victor1231 Well then go!
Well then go
The knowledge of that being the last thing he said be it that or anything hurtful anyone says to a loved one before there until demise is eating away at his meal state
Eric also said That the love for his son has always been the same it’s never changed....
John: nooo it’s changed now.
TOO EVERYONE ANE EVERYBODY
i swear he says can we fuckin fix you? not sure lol not actually tasting that glass of water...True
He said; But Can We Fix You?
Salem Oregon- watch :58 through 1:55 !
2:20 at 0.25 speed. He looked at the camera
in the description... the saying is "take for granted"... not granite :)
YET YOU REFUSE TOO ANSWER
I wish I could watch the SAW movies without the blood and gore. John Kramer is a fascinating character but I can't stomach the "games".
The most disgusting ones were in 3 and 7 the rest are not that gruesome
@@patrickbateman1540 well idk, some of the others were
@@patrickbateman1540 saw 4 john's postmortem
omg my grammer is terrible sorry about that.
7 year old:says Frick you to friend
Jigsaw
can they just reboot the series starting after the first saw and just keep tobin bell as the main villain for like 4 movies until he succumbs to his cancer. i'm fucking sick and tired of these bullshit new characters they keep churning out to continue but not follow john's work. i mean i'd buy it if they continued with dr gordon as jigsaw but no they had to get a new fucking nobody that was all of sudden john's first apprentice.
maybe the answer doesn't need all this time, just give it a try bro if you are curious you'll find its the most important of all, peace
0:35 0:36
Here is a better question. Why should people even live at all? What because some guy goes around putting people in traps says so? People should live how they want to. Not because some one should dicatate how to live. UNless you have something to live for then there is no point in living at all. Why be miserable for the sake of some guy forcing his will on you.
You can live the way you want as long as you don't harm another people. If you think you're free to do anything to people, then people free to do anything to you too
@@thefourthreich2039well that point applies to John either
@OMGitsDSypl well then go!!!
what does he say to his son btw? at like 0:34
OMGitsDSypl k
Well then go
0:34
thats why you should look for who created you
S.A.Ws apprentice
should be
Jeff the Killer
Gamerboyz Hadi no
These stories were special, unique in the first two movies, but after Jons death , they didn’t have much meaning , it was all someone’s else stories. Shawnee smith was ok, hoffman was an assbag!!
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John sounds like my aunt she had cancer and survived and it’s been years and she still complains about it and makes excuses like you’ve been cured for years stop whining everything is cancer this or that
John never had his cancer cured at all.
As a grown up I see J.Kramer and Walter White as the same fictional character. Both are brilliant scientists/engineers who are also extreme egocentrics that have decided to leave a mark in the world, as their death wish, no matter how much misery they create.
The fact that Kramer does not use the same trap twice kinda proves he does it for the fun not the message he self claims to give. Even in this scene, the mad man has a teenage suffocating 10 metres near him, so he pretty much is full of bs.
Walter White intentionally lies while John has a hero complex.
John uses traps that reflect the victims own problems. Each trap/test John does is poetic justice to what the person has done.
@@petermj1098 3:25 this line is no hero complex. It is god complex.
Man, there are two kinds of punishment: Subjective and Objective.
Objective punishment, is the first world justice system and the Dante's Inferno. Both distinguish between "inferno" and "purgatory" and every person is treated/punished accordingly to the recognised facts and no favouritism is involved (Usually).
Subjective punishment, is exactly what J.Kramer is doing in the video: He had a bad day, and thinks everyone should be trial by his point of view and opinions.
If at the end of the Saw franchise J.Kramer would say: "I didn't do it for the others, I did it for myself" then J.Kramer and W.White would had the same character arc.
Edit: Even what he says in the video about "water" is a bad joke. Water is insipid by default, you literally can't taste water, only notice its absence and appreciate when there is no longer absence.
I am not a homosexual
i was happier with less jing han. dont lecture me on what is right or wrong i want nothing to do with you. i dont want to be padme amidala. i dont want power like you. i dont want to be caned every day for the rest of my life while helping other people. low position in society is ok. stupid, poor but happy. i like not being caned more than i like money jing han
You are wasting your lives.
Rebirth by demon suicide possession. Jigsaw is the devil in real life. The devil is a defeated foe. His works are the works of the flesh. But in truth , Jesus Christ is Lord, who endured every saw game and more in his love for us, that we might have a chance for freedom from our sin.
He is just justifying his love for sadism. A true criminal.
Jigsaw 🧩 is my idol there's very few people in this world I'd actually spend my precious time to listen to and John Kramer is one of them 🕐🕜🕐