Are Aftermarket Sway Bars Worth It?

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  • čas přidán 12. 05. 2020
  • Our Miata still suffers from quite a bit of body roll, or leaning over in corners. When this happens, the cars’ weight transfers largely to the outside tires, and unloads from the inside tires, which means bad handling and poor grip! This week, Zach installs a set of thicc sway bars and new end-links in hopes to keep the car flatter in the corners and more responsive to steering input. Are they worth the install?
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  • @Donut
    @Donut  Před 4 lety +1773

    Hey everybody!! Let me know what you want to see on future episodes of Money Pit!!

  • @CalebDavilazeldacatbugyui
    @CalebDavilazeldacatbugyui Před 4 lety +1945

    Zach: Wants to install practical performance mods on the Miata
    Rest of Donut: Ha ha, make car shoot flames

  • @alexvaquero6884
    @alexvaquero6884 Před 4 lety +4426

    I’m enjoying Money Pit so much man. Zach just make’s it easier to understand as well and I love it! Definitely an inspiring dude :)

    • @BL00193
      @BL00193 Před 4 lety +36

      you know Zach is the one who liked this because you just dissed everyone else lookout for James and Nolan to talk about this on up to speed when they ramble

    • @MrKinkysloth
      @MrKinkysloth Před 4 lety +56

      eli bloom he ain’t dissing donut... all the hosts have different styles; and zachs this guys favorite. Low key miss Bart, science garage was my favorite

    • @etienneoligny5106
      @etienneoligny5106 Před 4 lety +11

      @@MrKinkysloth miss science garage either. I wonder what happened.

    • @mariejohanna2166
      @mariejohanna2166 Před 4 lety

      Yes

    • @f0rmr57
      @f0rmr57 Před 4 lety +3

      Fucking love this guy

  • @Kj16V
    @Kj16V Před 4 lety +1055

    8:38 I love how you guys show the actual truths of modifying; smacking body parts, swearing, throwing tools about. *These* are the truths of modifying!

    • @metalbob3335
      @metalbob3335 Před 3 lety +15

      If life is without it's slings and arrows I wish not to live in that world good commentor.

    • @geistfly723
      @geistfly723 Před 3 lety +5

      Meme Man I think knowing what your getting yourself into and the pain of others haha, is much better then thinking your not going to get hurt. Basically to me that’s not showing everything that can and won’t go wrong. Need both sides.

    • @krismichalsky
      @krismichalsky Před 3 lety +18

      If you weren't allowed to throw tools, cuss and bang the shit out of things, then the job would just not get done properly. Every good mechanic knows this.....

    • @profitprophet4547
      @profitprophet4547 Před 3 lety +4

      Only people that have been there before knows how horribly it really hurts, otherwise it looks like your average knee hit.

    • @bulletclub4life
      @bulletclub4life Před rokem

      that doesnt happen to me because Im a backyard professional...cuz I have snapon tools...lol

  • @BornofFire117
    @BornofFire117 Před 3 lety +595

    I love how Zach records the frustration and pain associated with working on a vehicle. It’s a realistic educational video. For that same reason, you have earned a like and serious respect from a fellow DIY mechanic.

    • @richardsenkBeachwalker
      @richardsenkBeachwalker Před rokem +3

      if I'm not bleeding, I'm not working on a car.

    • @Fifteenminuteadventures
      @Fifteenminuteadventures Před rokem +8

      I lose tools down in my fenders, bust knuckles, make up new cuss words, and get a little too much drink or smoke and turn every little job into a weekend long party in my garage. None of this do I regret because...cars

  • @aidanvillanueva1881
    @aidanvillanueva1881 Před 4 lety +1320

    They gotta start doing money pit twice a week I can’t wait that long

  • @P.r.i.m.o
    @P.r.i.m.o Před 4 lety +698

    This entire video series is just Zach's master plan to get his dream miata lmao

    • @myMotoring
      @myMotoring Před 4 lety +58

      And get donut pay for it

    • @erito23gamingpower99
      @erito23gamingpower99 Před 4 lety +51

      Better than spend more than 30k on the Hi 350z of Hi Low

    • @JustDoMeCrew
      @JustDoMeCrew Před 4 lety +24

      @@myMotoring They'll just write it off as a business expense so they'll actually be paying way less for the parts too

    • @sebasttps7096
      @sebasttps7096 Před 4 lety +27

      "so you got a new show for me"
      "Yes sir I do. So it's gonna be me modding my Miata. that's about it"
      "Ok you're in"

    • @levidaniels585
      @levidaniels585 Před 4 lety +1

      I would have never guessed that lmao 😂

  • @Kaohteeko
    @Kaohteeko Před 4 lety +253

    I love how real this is. Instead of portraying a perfect installation, it’s representative of actually Joe working on their car.

  • @WSmith-ne5ks
    @WSmith-ne5ks Před 4 lety +207

    Watching him struggle with "simple stuff" makes me feel better because i do the same thing with anything

    • @christianlail7266
      @christianlail7266 Před 3 lety +13

      Experience is everything. People get discouraged in the learning process but forget the life long lesson you get. Plus its easier to do next time. Its why i go to the parts yard. Dont think u can replace a fuel pump? Try it at the yard, see whats hard whats easy to break, that sort of stuff.

    • @kevinmontoya7318
      @kevinmontoya7318 Před 3 lety +4

      Me in my mind: why the fuck is my neighbor watching me change my oil
      Him: *thumbs up*
      Me: THERE HE GOES AGAIN POPPING OFF LIKE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD

  • @brandongil5160
    @brandongil5160 Před 4 lety +1366

    “One of the simplest mods!” Loses his shit twice! Lol

    • @kevinhawley3303
      @kevinhawley3303 Před 4 lety +8

      xD yes!!!! lmao made my day

    • @ghosttoast8326
      @ghosttoast8326 Před 4 lety +60

      If you don't curse you aren't trying lol

    • @nullpointer1984
      @nullpointer1984 Před 4 lety +21

      Compared to newer cars this was super easy.

    • @vaidasspu
      @vaidasspu Před 4 lety +4

      @@nullpointer1984 It's super easy on a Mclaren

    • @siswanto5229
      @siswanto5229 Před 4 lety +36

      Vaidas Spu its not super easy to buy mclaren

  • @avitgarcia1791
    @avitgarcia1791 Před 4 lety +674

    Zach: *Throws tools out from under the car into the yard*
    Future Zach: where’d my 10mm go 😱

    • @levidaniels585
      @levidaniels585 Před 4 lety +24

      *runs over it with the lawn mower*
      Zach: "found it!"

    • @bothijssen1809
      @bothijssen1809 Před 4 lety +2

      @Crotch Banister are you simping on Zach buddy?

    • @hachirokami
      @hachirokami Před 4 lety +4

      False! Any body who works on cars with metric hardware has a box full of 8 and 10mm cause you lose all the time lol

    • @user-tp7of2bi4s
      @user-tp7of2bi4s Před 4 lety

      hachirokami : No, I had mine over 30 years S&K from Japan, great tools 😃

    • @SAMPLETEXT285
      @SAMPLETEXT285 Před 4 lety

      @Crotch Banister so do you know him better then us? Stfu stop simping

  • @JDMMasters
    @JDMMasters Před 3 lety +354

    Add fender bracers, you will feel the difference immediately.

    • @JDMMasters
      @JDMMasters Před 3 lety +25

      @Jay'sWorld! No, fender bracers. Inside the fenders.

    • @BigWilba
      @BigWilba Před 3 lety +5

      @@JDMMasters where you get them never heard of them

    • @elcuh7939
      @elcuh7939 Před 3 lety +9

      @@BigWilba I think they are also called “frog arms” they stiffen up the car vertically and laterally making it handle better

    • @briank10101
      @briank10101 Před 3 lety +4

      Sway bars nullify the independence of the suspension.

    • @guzman7590
      @guzman7590 Před 3 lety +2

      @@briank10101 that a bad thing or good thing?

  • @dylanscrivani383
    @dylanscrivani383 Před 3 lety +126

    I love how he's basically testing all of the mods that we typically want to try out on our own rides, and if they make a difference.

  • @kalpaniwickramage5395
    @kalpaniwickramage5395 Před 4 lety +503

    Donut media really makes their fans happy by replying to fan comments and liking fan comments.

    • @sampiafsky7876
      @sampiafsky7876 Před 4 lety +10

      Kalpani Wickramage smart man

    • @aidancarter5
      @aidancarter5 Před 4 lety +2

      Kalpani Wickramage Donut is amazing!!! Love these guys!

    • @melbournetaylor4265
      @melbournetaylor4265 Před 4 lety +2

      @@sampiafsky7876 he is 😂😂

    • @Gustinpham
      @Gustinpham Před 4 lety +2

      Donut and fitment industries are my fav channels Bc of this

    • @maxcheese382
      @maxcheese382 Před 4 lety +3

      Justin Pham idk why but I don’t enjoy fitment industries I think I just don’t like the hosts too much. Like nothing against them they seem like cool guys just not my cup of tea

  • @f0rr3stgump
    @f0rr3stgump Před 4 lety +701

    "Are big brake kits / upgraded pads and rotors worth it?"
    Next on money pit?

    • @Rd-fb9mo
      @Rd-fb9mo Před 4 lety +40

      Nathan Crouse watch the hi vs lo series the do a test with brakes and rotors and compare them

    • @kinafermusic2456
      @kinafermusic2456 Před 4 lety +22

      Mr.BigBoss7 technically doesn’t increase braking ability, but increases the ability of the brakes to dissipate heat (which becomes pretty important if you’re gonna be braking hard more than one time at a stoplight) and lets them maintain performance. Otherwise, braking performance is limited by tire grip.

    • @SimanSlivar
      @SimanSlivar Před 4 lety +3

      @@kinafermusic2456 it can depending on design pad selection ect... Drilled rotors actually help in some cases, but many people keep saying they don't... It comes down to physics. Clamping force remains the same but with drilled rotors the overall pressure on the given rotor area is increased. That's the reason you see cross drilled rotors on race cars. Some pad materials need a certain pressures to work effectively, so drilled rotors can help dial that in. This is most noted with ceramic based pads.

    • @intecz2950
      @intecz2950 Před 4 lety +9

      @@SimanSlivar Not really true sorry. If clamping force remains the same, the "pressure" will stay the same, on any rotor. For example 10 newtons (force) being applied to a rotor. That force doesnt change from the amount of holes in it, or surface texture. Surface texture DOES effect braking though, just not the amount of holes. What the holes do in drilled rotors is dissipate heat better than non drilled rotors. Its kinda like opening all the windows in your house. The more windows, the better circulation of heat, which cools down your house! That is if theres no wind aha. So as a result of less heat, you get longer track time without brake fade. BUT one of the biggest problems with drilled rotors is the fact that when they heat up too much, they end up cracking or warping, which greatly effects your brakes!! Nowadays people are turning more towards Slotted Rotors, including GT3 race cars and other race cars. They dont crack as often or ever which is nice. What the slots do is release gases from under the pad, and also wipe the pad of any debris, oils , etc, etc. They dissipate more heat than solid rotors, but not as much as drilled rotors. But the fact that your rotors wont crack and completely fail is a pretty good trade off.
      Also pads dont need a certain pressure, but more so a certain temperature. Watch GT3 cars at the beginning of the race on the warm up lap. They accelerate really fast then slam on the brakes, trying to get heat in them. Also if you ever buy race pads for your daily car, i think they have a warning that they arent for street use, simply because your brakes dont get very hot driving on the street.
      sorry for the novel. not trying bash you for your comment, but theres some iffy info out there, and lets face it we're all here to learn! i know i am

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck Před 4 lety

      @@kinafermusic2456 but if you put like 12 inch wide street slicks on something with brakes made for like 4 inch wide highway tires, I think you might run into your brake limit before the tire slips with stock brakes, I know I do with my rears on both cars, then again the cobra has one frozen open caliper and the gt has ceramic pads in back, but even when the gt had semi metallic pads in back, those 285 wide falken azenis fk510s DO NOT SKID, like doesn't even engage ABS

  • @Abraham_R_
    @Abraham_R_ Před 3 lety +85

    1:38 that’s literally me everyday with scammers

    • @LastKnight0727
      @LastKnight0727 Před 3 lety +9

      I answer them and when they ask me to confirm the Year, Make, Model I just say, "1980" *click* they hang up on me

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland Před 4 lety +17

    One point of clarification: all other things remaining equal, larger sway bars *reduce* grip; its somewhat counter intuitive, but true. More body roll actually increases grip, which is why most cars are setup to have a decent amount from the factory.

    • @pabito7347
      @pabito7347 Před rokem +7

      Yea body roll on avarage stock cars going mild speeds, But someone who will drive the car harder needs that rigidity and responsiveness wich will sometimes cause a loose a grip but ultimately makes the car more predictable to control .Roll at mild speeds can somewhat help balance cars but on agressive driving roll compromises a lot

  • @tonybanana4016
    @tonybanana4016 Před 4 lety +3309

    Not having a girlfriend is part of my weight reduction kit

  • @LaczPro
    @LaczPro Před 4 lety +85

    4:56 LIGHTNING! in his knee. I know that feeling bro.

    • @Donut
      @Donut  Před 4 lety +21

      Bad lightning

    • @Earle_Arts
      @Earle_Arts Před 4 lety

      Torn meniscus in mine knee and I have hit it on my short car a ton, sucks so much

  • @doctorsuarez
    @doctorsuarez Před 3 lety +11

    Great for FWD cars. My Accord’s stock bar was like a coat hanger. Replaced with one from an Acura TL and it made a huge difference.

  • @amarisullivan7811
    @amarisullivan7811 Před 4 lety +17

    The way he explained what sway bars were added to me as a person and made me subscribe

  • @ateague01
    @ateague01 Před 4 lety +155

    1:37 That’s the same way I answer those calls 😂😂😂😂

    • @JAK0E
      @JAK0E Před 4 lety +7

      Same here but sometimes i let them transfer me to an agent and when i tell them my car is a 97 suzuki sidekick and i would love some extended warranty they hang up

    • @dekoldrick
      @dekoldrick Před 4 lety +1

      @@JAK0E Maybe I should do the same and tell them I have a 93 Honda Accord and an 88 Ford F150.

    • @JAK0E
      @JAK0E Před 4 lety

      @@dekoldrick haha I guess their scam is to get ahold of people with brand new cars idk. They don't like old cars. If you do talk to them let Hank or Mary know I miss their calls lol

    • @iguessitsmanny
      @iguessitsmanny Před 4 lety

      I just dial a bunch of numbers until they hang up lol

    • @Tonio_onair
      @Tonio_onair Před 4 lety

      Who called him? Who was that?

  • @Powatodacarz1
    @Powatodacarz1 Před 4 lety +536

    *annoying robo dialer* we've been trying to rea...
    "F*** OFF!!"
    Same bro, same.

    • @nelsongonzalez8754
      @nelsongonzalez8754 Před 4 lety +6

      For reals that shit gets annoying

    • @codyknarich3949
      @codyknarich3949 Před 4 lety +6

      William Patton i get that same call and ive asked to be put on the no call list 2 times 😂

    • @supperpika
      @supperpika Před 4 lety +1

      Relatable

    • @JeffReeves
      @JeffReeves Před 4 lety +4

      Just start messing with them. I tell them that I'm dumping the body like they asked and that they better have my money when I get back.

    • @Powatodacarz1
      @Powatodacarz1 Před 4 lety +2

      I usually ask them if they'll pay me to repair my own car since I'm a mechanic 😂 I almost got one guy to say yes once

  • @JSmooove
    @JSmooove Před 3 lety +49

    bro, you do an incredible job at explaining the mods, their functions and intricacies. I'm 30 years old, never really was a gear head growing up, although I can appreciate a piece of vehicular art. i've been watching this series and all the upgrades you've been putting on and i'm learning so much. you really have a knack for making things easy to understand. well done, bro.

    • @sleazymeezy
      @sleazymeezy Před 2 lety

      Bro, I'm sitting here about to upgrade sway bars on my Y51

  • @benaspuckus41
    @benaspuckus41 Před 4 lety +20

    Very nice video! Just want to point out a couple of things:
    • If the sway-bars are equally thicker, weight transfer will still be the same. Same weight will only be transferred quicker. You can only reduce weight transfer by lowering center of gravity or by widening vehicle track.
    • Stiffer sway bars can also affect ride quality even going in a straight line. By making these bars thicker you actually link both sides of suspension together. So if you hit a bump only with one wheel, this impact will move to the other side thus making ride quality a bit harsher. This can especially be felt when driving over poor road surfaces.

    • @henrent
      @henrent Před 8 měsíci +2

      agreed especially with your second point. There is no free lunch.

    • @ryancaoo5503
      @ryancaoo5503 Před 7 měsíci

      @@henrentsway bars aren’t free

  • @Ovni121
    @Ovni121 Před 4 lety +108

    This is my favorite video series on Donut! I wasn't considering a project car before and now this seems like a great idea. I like that he's honest also when he's struggling so people like me doesn't think it will be a pain free process. But also he's very good a explaining by showing so a newbie like me can jump in.

    • @EkowMensahMotorsports
      @EkowMensahMotorsports Před 4 lety +4

      Yes this is important....the 8 bolts on swaybars seem like a 'quick project' but it can take a bit if you do it right.

    • @72hermit
      @72hermit Před 4 lety

      @@EkowMensahMotorsports I needed to hear this today. Thank you.

  • @davidhauser3261
    @davidhauser3261 Před 4 lety +275

    Quick answer: Yes

  • @Sam_Hannam
    @Sam_Hannam Před 4 lety +25

    Love this series literally the most realistic thing out there. Tools being thrown around is absolutely spot on 😂

  • @elijahortiz1354
    @elijahortiz1354 Před 4 lety +12

    3:26 i really appreciate this edit

  • @ismaelrios7046
    @ismaelrios7046 Před 4 lety +266

    8:40 the camera man starts backing up when he starts throwing tools 😂

    • @MrDylanm842
      @MrDylanm842 Před 3 lety +7

      Health and safety comes first for the camera men

  • @seekerofthetruths
    @seekerofthetruths Před 4 lety +22

    Neglected to mention that stiffer sway bars will hurt your grip on rougher roads as this limits the suspensions ability to adapt to the road with each individual wheel. Back roads I grew up racing on it was real common to just get a stiffer rear bar to keep the ass flat and prevent understeer while letting the front articulate over the rough stuff and maximize grip.

    • @winebartender6653
      @winebartender6653 Před rokem +6

      Just to add in general, there are always compromises when it comes to sway bar stiffness, front and rear.
      Front: the stiffer, the more understeer, caused by removing weight from the tire getting the most traction (the outside, due to the larger radius from corner centerpoint). Though you are keeping more weight on the inside compared to a softer bar, you are exchanging downward force for lateral force. As an extreme example, if you were on ice, higher downward force on one tire is going to give you better grip than redistributing that force both laterally and to the other tire.
      The benefits of higher stiffness in the front will be better mid corner tracking and corner exit, as there will be less weight transfer occurring.
      Rear: The stiffer, the more oversteer and a higher chance of snap oversteer, especially in the wet. Same ice example applies above. The stiffer will help with corner entry/turn in, but will negatively affect corner exit because of the same grip changes and more oversteer nature of the setup.
      As with anything suspension related, there is a balance between all the components (spring rate, dampening, ride height(center of gravity), vehicle weight (corner weight more precisely) and sway bar stiffness being the big ones). Too stiff is just as bad as too soft. There are compromises no matter the setup, but what works the best falls on the conditions you plan on driving in.

    • @hemiplow1297
      @hemiplow1297 Před rokem

      @@winebartender6653 front bar does make the turn in feel better aswell but softer front feels less good but grips better

  • @jasonbaldwin6760
    @jasonbaldwin6760 Před 4 lety +15

    Sway bars are easily the best dollar to performance mod out there, even on a completely stock vehicle it is a night and day difference. I'd also say that poly bushings are an underrated suspension mod as well.

  • @ody2cuffs508
    @ody2cuffs508 Před 4 lety +38

    I love this show. Learning how each mod directly impacts the performance of the car. Is really enlightening. Thank you Zach, Donut, and Donut Sponsors. 🤙

    • @Donut
      @Donut  Před 4 lety +11

      That's what I like to hear! Thank YOU!

  • @Daniel.S44
    @Daniel.S44 Před 4 lety +282

    This car needs a spinny Boi
    Who wants to see this Thang boosted??!!!?

    • @Vaermxna
      @Vaermxna Před 4 lety +14

      JDM_Dude superchargers are pretty good on miatas as well

    • @nickg6312
      @nickg6312 Před 4 lety +20

      @@Vaermxna i want to see a supercharger. everyone has turbos. superchargers are great for daily cars

    • @modernyt854
      @modernyt854 Před 4 lety +3

      Nicholas Gionet yeah but aren’t they trying to go for the cheaper and reasonable mods? Super chargers are hella pricey

    • @kylewest100
      @kylewest100 Před 4 lety

      SupraBoi thats what I was gonna say

    • @heygek2769
      @heygek2769 Před 4 lety +1

      put on a small turbo so there's barely any lag, kinda like the ford ecoboost

  • @ericMT
    @ericMT Před 2 lety +25

    Sway bar upgrade is an especially important upgrade for Subarus (or other sporty sedans) but it’s often overlooked because it doesn’t change the look of the car at all. Instant handling increase, better than springs and easy to install. Tires are also a big factor. I’d do those 2 things first before anything else.

  • @drenels10
    @drenels10 Před 3 lety +71

    1:38 “we’ve been trying to reach you about your cars warranty”
    “Awww Fuuu”
    I feel your pain bro 🤣😭😭

    • @blazervol3357
      @blazervol3357 Před 2 lety

      Most annoying thing EVER to be in the middle of doing something, your phone rings, you try to drop everything you have to answer it and then it is THAT SAME MESSAGE! I quit answering my phone. I'll call them back if i know the number

    • @mynamecrispy873
      @mynamecrispy873 Před 2 lety

      😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @masonwood6765
    @masonwood6765 Před 4 lety +115

    You should do a give away with one of the old parts off of the Miata signed by the whole donut crew

  • @MichaelBrown-wx6zq
    @MichaelBrown-wx6zq Před 4 lety +83

    It does affect straight line performance. It makes the suspension less independent. If only one wheel hits a bump, a stronger sway bar will apply more force to the other tire

    • @johnterpack3940
      @johnterpack3940 Před rokem +17

      Two years later and this is still the only comment pointing out he was wrong about the effects of sway bars. On actual race cars and OEM applications the sway bar rate is calculated as part of the spring rate. They work to balance the two for the expected conditions. A beefy sway bar on rough roads will almost certainly slow you down.

    • @qualityguacamole9142
      @qualityguacamole9142 Před rokem +11

      I was wondering what the catch was to this!! Coz if the positives outweigh the negatives by that much, then manufacturers would’ve had that installed on already out of the factory

    • @alisdairherd9501
      @alisdairherd9501 Před 9 měsíci +3

      They are installed from factory, just the manufacturer will try to balance performance and driveability. Considering that consumer cars don't generally live on tracks the sway bar from factory is more compliant to deal with rough roads.

  • @redeyedfreaks
    @redeyedfreaks Před 4 lety +13

    "Which is as easy as removing the hardware from the away bar brackets"
    Snapped two of the four rusted bolts. Thanks Midwest. Hope everyone has a good tap and die kit

  • @spencermill10
    @spencermill10 Před 3 lety +1

    I like how you always explain not only WHAT you're doing, but WHY. Makes it a lot easier to pick and choose what I want to do to my car, even if it's not the same as what you do

  • @mamel000
    @mamel000 Před 4 lety +32

    I used to own a NB Miata in my 20’s and thanks to your series I’m getting another one.

  • @gm5383
    @gm5383 Před 4 lety +159

    "this will never be a really fast straight line car"
    *all the turbo mx5s* "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @jacklondon7873
      @jacklondon7873 Před 4 lety +5

      UK V6 Jag swapped Miatas too hehe

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Před 4 lety +4

      He's gonna turbo it... just wait...

    • @Sheridantank
      @Sheridantank Před 4 lety +7

      The LS Miatas fell out their chair laughing

    • @GustavCarl17
      @GustavCarl17 Před 4 lety +3

      Demon swapped Miata’s have joined the chat

    • @Funny_Milkman
      @Funny_Milkman Před 4 lety +3

      fast means less than 4 sec to 62mph

  • @bradjordan6984
    @bradjordan6984 Před 4 lety +6

    I went with the subwoofer upgrade, I liked it so much I got another, one for each side of the hatch. my acceleration got worse but my braking got noticeably better. I also go through pads and rotors faster but worth every penny. highly recommended!

  • @smokeymotorsport
    @smokeymotorsport Před 4 lety +3

    I've put away bars on BMW 5 series and cars that size a couple of times. Stiffening the rear helps make the balance more tail happy, along with camber adjustments. So it works on big heavy stuff too! Really enjoy Zach's videos, very genuine transfer of knowledge stuff

  • @Indigo_gt86
    @Indigo_gt86 Před 4 lety +1429

    The next episode should be “Are Girlfriends worth it?”

  • @RainyB0i
    @RainyB0i Před 4 lety +65

    I’m saving this whole series for my first car.

    • @crazyadam9281
      @crazyadam9281 Před 4 lety +3

      I was thinking of doing the same but I remember I drive a shitty 03 Fiat Seicento Sporting.

    • @stephanekarrasch9187
      @stephanekarrasch9187 Před 4 lety +1

      @@crazyadam9281 it's actually a fun little car

    • @mihailpetrovici5044
      @mihailpetrovici5044 Před 4 lety

      Save money also, you'll need a lot of them

    • @crazyadam9281
      @crazyadam9281 Před 4 lety

      @@stephanekarrasch9187 it can be fun, I guess I was being a bit overly dramatic about my Seicento.

    • @jordancailes8383
      @jordancailes8383 Před 4 lety

      Just make sure your first car isn’t something lame like a sun fire

  • @tjyau7068
    @tjyau7068 Před rokem

    Absolutely my favorite part of the show cause it gives me the insight and courage to do it myself and the installs make a huge difference.

  • @NV-NS
    @NV-NS Před rokem

    Rewatching all these videos as I build my 87 MR2. It's great knowledge to know on what to spend on. Thanks again

  • @benjaminshaver4533
    @benjaminshaver4533 Před 4 lety +86

    My reasons for watching money pit: 40% practical and easy to understand knowledge about cars. 60% Zach’s overwhelming attractiveness. 100% MIATA SHOOT FIRE

  • @piotrpaczuski4060
    @piotrpaczuski4060 Před 4 lety +119

    Reading some comments I feel like:
    Oh, hell, Miata is going to get up in price.

    • @SkylerB17
      @SkylerB17 Před 4 lety +10

      they are up. im trying to buy one right now and people are asking crazy prices for basically beaters

    • @andychillin2579
      @andychillin2579 Před 4 lety

      Piotr Paczuski yea from 4K to 7k now 😭

    • @louiemanning
      @louiemanning Před 4 lety

      Mine has appreciated by 3k in two years

    • @trashedandbashed3871
      @trashedandbashed3871 Před 4 lety +3

      Quick someone make a video talking about how terrible miatas are so they can depreciate

    • @80s_Boombox_Collector
      @80s_Boombox_Collector Před 4 lety +2

      Most Miata drivers I see are age 45+ white men. Very few people under that age. Which makes sense, because it's meant to be someone's second or third vehicle, not their only one.

  • @ibbyseed
    @ibbyseed Před 4 lety

    i love how this is now just a miata build along. really needed this bc he brakes everything down in a great way

  • @BodyBag_Gaming
    @BodyBag_Gaming Před 2 lety +4

    This series and your skills as a mechanic, make everything look so simple!
    Either that, or my anxiety and second guessing are getting in my own way 😂

  • @jonathanwilson1672
    @jonathanwilson1672 Před 4 lety +88

    “It’s as easy as removing the hardware.” Unless its a freaking Mazdaspeed 3 with the front sway bar on top of the subframe!

    • @JaRrYCAW
      @JaRrYCAW Před 4 lety +5

      Haha same with E92, have to remove the entire rear subframe for the rear sway bar lol

    • @krudmuphinstudioz
      @krudmuphinstudioz Před 4 lety

      I had a Volvo S40 which was the same platform. The sway bars, and practically everything suspension related was a total pain in the ass on that car lol

    • @fuzzcopter467
      @fuzzcopter467 Před 4 lety +10

      G just make the race 100k miles in anything and you should be good. Subie will blow up long before then

    • @kju520
      @kju520 Před 4 lety +1

      @G Something light and takes well to turbocharging

    • @anthonyd5157
      @anthonyd5157 Před 4 lety

      Jonathan Wilson sane on my focus 🙄 the rear is simple though

  • @paulk9813
    @paulk9813 Před 4 lety +53

    For some reason when Zach hit his knee, I felt like it was a huge character development moment. Like I learned some really important plot points. What happened to the knee, Zach.

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff5777 Před 2 lety

    Your enthusiasm on this show is so infectious. You make me want to work on my car so much!

  • @brettmiddleton5013
    @brettmiddleton5013 Před 2 lety

    Love how there’s a library of these videos now. Almost every part you can upgrade they have a video on. Thanks

  • @PaganiGaming
    @PaganiGaming Před 4 lety +436

    Day 133 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

    • @aziz_alrumayyan6712
      @aziz_alrumayyan6712 Před 4 lety +4

      Yes also a up to speed on chrysler

    • @BK-mv2mk
      @BK-mv2mk Před 4 lety +6

      @@aziz_alrumayyan6712 wrong comment thread.

    • @alexgrant6965
      @alexgrant6965 Před 4 lety +17

      He is a man of commitment, dedication and sheer fucking will.

    • @olegkolesnikov7155
      @olegkolesnikov7155 Před 4 lety +13

      When you see a Donut vid posted "3 min ago" and want to beat Pagani Gaming to the comments but see a Hyura taillight as the top comment :[

    • @AhmadHassan-uk2ff
      @AhmadHassan-uk2ff Před 4 lety +8

      No man its not day 133, you just commented to get some attention, its actually day 270.....

  • @alopee4848
    @alopee4848 Před 4 lety +119

    When you here just to see Zach get super mad at his Miata.

  • @325idiy5
    @325idiy5 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for taking the time to do what you are doing. It is helping me a lot as I work on my project car.

  • @edwinrivera8601
    @edwinrivera8601 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for explaining in details! Great video!

  • @allanmathew6687
    @allanmathew6687 Před 4 lety +16

    This is literally the best thing on the internet right now

  • @westleyparker7810
    @westleyparker7810 Před 4 lety +114

    I really like him, he's got a more serious James vibe. He SOUNDS like he knows what he's doing

  • @DanielOrtegoUSA
    @DanielOrtegoUSA Před 2 lety

    Lots of helpful tips and well produced, Thanks for posting ~

  • @Arturo_S3
    @Arturo_S3 Před 4 lety +1

    I got h&r sway bars on my a3 and I couldn't agree more. It's one of the best mods I've done so far, specially with a couple negative degrees of toe at the front and some camber plates. The car turns in insanely good.

  • @bigchanges94
    @bigchanges94 Před 4 lety +29

    Money pit for sure if my new favourite series. I am modifying my Miata at the moment and you guys are literally doing everything I am wanting to do, Zach is crazy knowledgeable too, so cheers bois.

    • @colinleder5683
      @colinleder5683 Před 4 lety +1

      I'm in the same boat with my NB. Aaaaand now I want to buy sway bars, that wasn't in my watch list but here we go, money pit right

    • @daytonasayswhat9333
      @daytonasayswhat9333 Před 4 lety

      Not literally, no.

    • @thejay8963
      @thejay8963 Před 4 lety

      Daytona Says What?!
      Oh, what a great rebuttal...
      Shut up.

  • @camcam7874
    @camcam7874 Před 4 lety +27

    my favorite build series i think ever. zach is such a good host i’m so happy to have him at donut

    • @thejay8963
      @thejay8963 Před 4 lety

      TNT Doge is an amazing profile picture.

  • @jukezauxe
    @jukezauxe Před 4 lety

    definitely top 5 favorite thing to watch on yt is this miatas journey and the host is a big part of it !

  • @contizlee8634
    @contizlee8634 Před 6 měsíci

    I'd been looking over for best video explaining about sway bars and this is it! Thank you for the great video.

  • @ThatGuy3141
    @ThatGuy3141 Před 4 lety +10

    4:55 I felt that in my soul, I've done that to many times to count working on my car.

    • @jalenad11
      @jalenad11 Před 4 lety

      Every time I use ramps because I'm too lazy to use jack stands lol

  • @Bassplayermane
    @Bassplayermane Před 4 lety +63

    "We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty"
    Handled correctly

    • @mhymyk4022
      @mhymyk4022 Před 4 lety +2

      I always mess with them, they hang up on me. Say some shit like "2017 Lamborghini Aventador" when they ask for make and model

    • @Bassplayermane
      @Bassplayermane Před 4 lety +5

      @@mhymyk4022 I once replied with my 84 Mazda Rx7 and they said "I'm sorry, we only cover vehicles newer than 2008" I shouted back, "then why the **** do y'all keep calling me then?!?"
      *In a very worried voice*
      "Well, looks like you have everything you need, have a great day" *click*

    • @mhymyk4022
      @mhymyk4022 Před 4 lety

      @@Bassplayermane I've even replied with the cars I actually drive, once a 92 Explorer, now a 91 MR2, they still hang up on me...

    • @negativeindustrial
      @negativeindustrial Před 4 lety +1

      Mhymyk
      I did the ‘91 MR2 Turbo on them two weeks ago. They hung up quick!
      Guess they’ve worked on an MR2 before 🤣

    • @daytonasayswhat9333
      @daytonasayswhat9333 Před 4 lety

      Mhymyk Nice n

  • @roshi98
    @roshi98 Před 3 lety

    Love that you show the bruisy parts of working on a car. Can't tell you how many times I've done the roll of pain and shame under my car after bashing myself on some evil piece of metal...

  • @matthewnash2840
    @matthewnash2840 Před 11 měsíci

    I love watching money pit .I'm working on a 2005 saab 9-5 turbo project at the moment and all this help thanks guy's

  • @STR76
    @STR76 Před 4 lety +45

    Nimbly bimbly - shout out to Super Troopers - Listen here meow

  • @Dixby_floppy
    @Dixby_floppy Před 4 lety +71

    When he hit his knee, I felt his pain. I can't tell you how many times I've hit, cut or bumped something on my LS swapped miata.

    • @xxtreestump002
      @xxtreestump002 Před 4 lety +32

      Trevor Fitz did you have to tell us it was ls swapped…

    • @yadeenkabir1215
      @yadeenkabir1215 Před 4 lety

      Dayyyyumn

    • @Dixby_floppy
      @Dixby_floppy Před 4 lety +6

      Duh how else would you know. Psh. Reading it over it does look like a big ego though lol.

    • @davidhenneberg6772
      @davidhenneberg6772 Před 4 lety +4

      Trevor Fitz it sound like a really big ego but it’s still a nice swap, but isn’t it a little bit heavy or is it possible to put it far behind (front mid engine) for a good weight ratio?

    • @Dixby_floppy
      @Dixby_floppy Před 4 lety +3

      @@davidhenneberg6772 it all depends on your driving style and how you like the feeling. I set mine up for drifting. Which is great for IMO. Different strokes for different folks

  • @christianlail7266
    @christianlail7266 Před 3 lety

    Love the hands on aspects you do on money pit. Keep it up.

  • @jellofuel
    @jellofuel Před 3 lety +1

    I love how Money Pit strikes the perfect balance of being informative and entertaining

  • @limash8424
    @limash8424 Před 4 lety +23

    I was waiting for Zach to say, "Am Zach, this is snake-pit 🐍"

  • @aallffoonnssoopotato8280
    @aallffoonnssoopotato8280 Před 4 lety +315

    "Are short throw dipsticks worth it?"

    • @GertieYTube
      @GertieYTube Před 4 lety +73

      I need a new dipstick, it does not reach the oil anymore

    • @thejay8963
      @thejay8963 Před 4 lety +36

      Brandon Kilian
      Talk to your mechanic about Viagroil today.

    • @tommyriordan870
      @tommyriordan870 Před 3 lety +3

      These are really funny comments😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @wesleyellis9451
      @wesleyellis9451 Před 3 lety

      An aftermarket dipstick would actually be a great thing for most Nissans

    • @kennethblindheim2676
      @kennethblindheim2676 Před 3 lety

      @@wesleyellis9451 bmw e46's too. the original ones always rust at the top.

  • @underourrock
    @underourrock Před rokem

    Thank you for going over sway bars and showing the difference in this one. Definitely interesting.
    Also, you and I react the same way to trying to knee the underside of the car as hard as possible. Been there, done that!

  • @FenrirsBite77
    @FenrirsBite77 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome and informative series! Truly enjoy the money pit videos

  • @theFreakyLock
    @theFreakyLock Před 4 lety +54

    Sway bar is Easy and fast to install.
    Me as a w126 driver: "LOOOOOOL! "

    • @adammiller8133
      @adammiller8133 Před 4 lety +3

      The Mercedes life has its drawbacks

    • @ramadhanisme7
      @ramadhanisme7 Před 4 lety +1

      is it that difficulty to install a sway bar in a merc? I never done one though

    • @Wtrxprs007able
      @Wtrxprs007able Před 4 lety +5

      @@ramadhanisme7 they're usually somewhat hidden between the k frame and body which means lowering/removing the k frame to get to them. A number of cars have it that way just to make room for other things

    • @kaboom555
      @kaboom555 Před 4 lety +4

      @@adammiller8133 same in modern BMWs. Sway bar install requires dropping the subframe, both front and rear. huge pain in the ass

    • @marcusmcneal7453
      @marcusmcneal7453 Před 4 lety +1

      Drop that subframe lol

  • @SaucyCat_
    @SaucyCat_ Před 4 lety +175

    “This is never really going to be fast in a straight line”
    *Sad LS noises*

    • @mathieulevasseur4082
      @mathieulevasseur4082 Před 4 lety +2

      I'd settle for a K series.

    • @connivingkhajiit
      @connivingkhajiit Před 4 lety +11

      keep those filthy LSs away from these pure cars

    • @davidhenneberg6772
      @davidhenneberg6772 Před 4 lety

      Michael Remington I would put a APY in it (the 1.8 Turbo engine from the old Audi S3, it’s insane what this thing can handle in comparison to the normal 1.8 T)

    • @obsidiannightwolfe13
      @obsidiannightwolfe13 Před 4 lety

      You mean a VW 1.8t?

    • @davidhenneberg6772
      @davidhenneberg6772 Před 4 lety

      obsidiannightwolfe13 no, the APY and BAM are different engines, they came only in the S3 and the TT Quattro

  • @robosullivan704
    @robosullivan704 Před 4 lety +1

    I agree, I definitely noticed them on my G37.. I appreciate the comparison of degrees of roll!

  • @Rockstar121292
    @Rockstar121292 Před 4 lety

    Great work on the video. It’s incredibly informative!

  • @rigom.2853
    @rigom.2853 Před 4 lety +32

    8:42 You're not really working on your vehicle if this doesn't happen at least once during the process.

    • @bartzalewski
      @bartzalewski Před 4 lety +7

      was going to make a similar comment. solo driveway wrenching pretty much guarantees some moments of utter frustration. this makes this series is so relatable to me. especially compared to the guys in a/c shops with lifts and every specialty tool imaginable.

    • @andrewbryl4879
      @andrewbryl4879 Před 4 lety +2

      lol truth!

    • @brainc0la-_-
      @brainc0la-_- Před 4 lety +3

      The reality of this series is hooking me in.

  • @mysterygozosk8er
    @mysterygozosk8er Před 4 lety +15

    This money pit series had been a blessing for me! Since I bought my first project car and for my luck is a miata 😂👌🏾

  • @dylan_lewis9309
    @dylan_lewis9309 Před 2 lety

    Very well done, loved the actual measurements from outside the vehicle

  • @eeedyooo
    @eeedyooo Před rokem

    thanks for sharing this. easy to understand explanation!

  • @oldred9122
    @oldred9122 Před 4 lety +41

    10:09 What is that yellow chicken car in the background?!

    • @rolyat
      @rolyat Před 4 lety +3

      Forbidden knowledge

    • @vinie.-z.3565
      @vinie.-z.3565 Před 4 lety +3

      Yoo, nice catch.

    • @subwayracing
      @subwayracing Před 4 lety +2

      So we not gonna talk about that chicken?

    • @suprastevio2264
      @suprastevio2264 Před 4 lety +2

      Los Pollos Hermanos ;)

    • @miata-focus3455
      @miata-focus3455 Před 4 lety +1

      Tommy Kendall's chicken car. Dinner with Racers has a funny podcast episode where Tommy talks about it.

  • @c4onmylip
    @c4onmylip Před 4 lety +163

    Miata boys:
    "I'm installing this aftermarket sway bar for better handling characteristics"
    Jeep boys:
    "sway bar delete bro, you never have to disconnect on the trail again. Besides, you get used to the body roll after awhile lmao"

    • @argenys8
      @argenys8 Před 4 lety +14

      flips

    • @c4onmylip
      @c4onmylip Před 4 lety +22

      @@argenys8 Lmao. Install a roll cage and fucking send it bro.

    • @dsugioaga
      @dsugioaga Před 4 lety +21

      It's almost as if suspension requirements for optimal offroad and onroad handling are opposed to one another... ;)

    • @c4onmylip
      @c4onmylip Před 4 lety +4

      @@dsugioaga True. You definitely have to give to get some take in another application, but that's just cars in general for you.

    • @kamilzmich5961
      @kamilzmich5961 Před 4 lety

      I deleted the sway bar in my _track_ civic - but for a different reason lmao

  • @stevedeleon8775
    @stevedeleon8775 Před 2 lety +1

    You guys have come a long way improving this Miata👍..Good Job..Keep going

  • @gaminiediri
    @gaminiediri Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the great instructional video with how a sway bar works clearly explained.

  • @in5t1nk3d4
    @in5t1nk3d4 Před 4 lety +450

    “Maybe some subwoofers” lmao he spoke to literally every single muscle car guy out there Edit: man y’all are poppin off

    • @8.2deck
      @8.2deck Před 4 lety +18

      "Modern muscle car guys"

    • @dylanhernandez378
      @dylanhernandez378 Před 4 lety +8

      We already got the powa baby

    • @SuitOne
      @SuitOne Před 4 lety +7

      @@8.2deck Just because it doesn't have a 12 liter V8 making 300 hp doesn't make new muscle cars any less than old ones.

    • @manoahvanderwolf3259
      @manoahvanderwolf3259 Před 4 lety +11

      Not really. matter of fact, ESPECIALLY muscle cars benefit from suspension upgrades, so if you're not a 'purist' you'll happily install upgrades like that over any lousy sound system nonsense. There is also literally no single way you can ever compare miata money to muscle car money.

    • @rickcornelissen3466
      @rickcornelissen3466 Před 4 lety

      Ouch , muscle car owners felt that

  • @connormorse1010
    @connormorse1010 Před 4 lety +17

    Let’s see more handling mods (strut bar), or interior mods like bucket seats, roll cage, steering wheel.

    • @smokeymotorsport
      @smokeymotorsport Před 4 lety +1

      I was thinking stiffening mods, like strut bar and sub frame connectors, all that stuff

  • @mosin54r2
    @mosin54r2 Před rokem

    Keep it up, Zach. I always love seeing someone else with a thirst for modification and a penchant for mechanical knowledge. You always keep your videos funny and informative yet bullshit free.

  • @epiclocksensie
    @epiclocksensie Před 3 lety +4

    I’ve been using your videos to trick out my 2019 Camry XSE and man, it’s such a drastic difference from stock

  • @palmermonsen9098
    @palmermonsen9098 Před 4 lety +6

    Loving this show, Keep it up, I look forward to it every Wednesday!

  • @lilhorts17
    @lilhorts17 Před 4 lety +60

    "easy to install" snaps the bolt welded to the inside of the frame rail so bolt spins nut in frame rail. DOPE

    • @ReviewedByAndy
      @ReviewedByAndy Před 4 lety +2

      Billy Horton this is why I hate suspension work with a passion. I swear every suspension job I’ve done on any car I’ve owned has been a nightmare. I promise I’m not complete shit at wrenching.

    • @KevAlberta
      @KevAlberta Před 4 lety

      Andrew Guyther looks like illl leave my away bars alone 😂

    • @vincentnghiem9280
      @vincentnghiem9280 Před 4 lety

      happened exactly to me but it was my friends car

    • @shona5512
      @shona5512 Před 4 lety

      @@ReviewedByAndy I'm that way too. I fucking hate working on Suspension. The only time I ever had a good time was when I was putting coilovers in my Volvo V40.. and even then, that's because Volvo made the hub carrier out of cast aluminium and all the bolts are stainless steel.

    • @ancientapparition1638
      @ancientapparition1638 Před 4 lety +1

      50/50 atf/acetone mix. shake before using. spray down all bolts and nuts every now and again for a week before doing the job. It will help tremendously even if you dont do the entire week. Just good penetrant in general

  • @psavel274
    @psavel274 Před 3 lety

    @ 7:30 you mentioned one of the ESSENTIAL factors about preload and I'm glad you did. Respect points +1 for knowing what you're talking about.

  • @Diabeatu
    @Diabeatu Před rokem

    Just convinced me to start working on my NC, thanks!