As aggravated as you sounded and as many issues as you were having, you weren’t charging that man enough per bale 😆 You are the king of bale flipping 👍🏻
Great video Dennis. Always a lot of work rebaling and very dusty. Done many bales because we sold hay for extra income on the farm. Worst part was rolling the round bales out by hand.
Our Set up is under an open shed, so wind direction moves most of the dust...... sometimes at you sometimes away from you..The only time our bale count per hour was slow was when we used a Bale Bandit..... Being as the Bale Baron builds from the bottom and the Bale Bandit from the top.. the Baron is more consistant and less prone to rough up the bales.......causing jams.......
Now I'm not one of them fellas that hollers first but since I'm here, first! Dennis, with all this music and new camera angles and effects and all that stuff, I'm starting to think I'm watching Dave Sparks Channel.
When we first started rebaliing..... We considered a Hustler. but as fate would have a farmer who was buying hay from us wanted to get out..... He offered to sell us the whole kit and kabotal........The Simpson unroller tables, 5070 NH baler a Bale Bandit, trailers and the store Contracts...... That was 4 years ago....... We swapped out the NHbaler and Bandit this past June ..We now have 6 stores with 2 more new locations set to come on line this month......Presently we can load onto a 53ft staged trailer a 21 bale bundle. about every 7 minutes..
@@DLHFarms When we Purchased the Complete outfit, We had to operate it under his Shed while the building Company was erecting ours...... We never have used the "Fluffer: because it creates too many fines....We feed the windrow into the baler as it comes off the bale..... Which requires gearing all the tables to the same feet per minute travel....and a high dollar needle valve on the hydralic line to controll the feed rate of all the tables together...... then adding some means of spring assisted hold downs to keep the baler pickup from snatching hay off the baler feed table ...... The first Incline Table has holes worn over the supports under the bottom....but stil going strong......... When we gonna see yours operate?????.
You made my knees very sore watching you getting in and out of cabs.. Won't be long you'll have so many people wanting you to rebale, it will be a full time job. LOL
I don’t want to be nosy but I wonder what people are getting $ to rebale. Wonder if it’s worth the trouble. But then again it’s something to keep you busy in the winter time
We been at it for 5 years and nobody is beatin down or door....... besides keeping 6 big box stores supplied with OUR hay demands most of our efforts....
Very nice intro, I liked the music also. I would hate to rebale hay, doing it once was always enough for me. My dad always had us bale up all the broken bales when the barn was empty in the spring. Ron
I tried rebaling 3 winters ago.. that was all I needed to give it up.. I was buying hay to rebale and could never find hay put up well enough where it worked really well.. like you too many clumps = lots of shear pins.. after all was said and done just couldn't get it to pencil.. hopefully your math is better.. sold my unroller to someone who wanted to get into rebaling and I won't do it again..for the few i was making I'm better off planting more hay, baling it correctly from the beginning and using my winters/rainy days to prep for next season and make sure all my equipment is ready.. best of luck.. I'd help you bale hay in the field any day but if you say we're rebaling today, I'm going to call in sick
My son and I tried rebaling 2 round bales January 28th. We unrolled by hand and it was miserably dusty. We always estimated 20-22 square bales per round. We got 21, 55 # bales per round bale, which is nice to know. I just purchased a 575 and wanted to try it out. Worked pretty good. Looks like that unroller is feeding a lot of hay, maybe that’s why the bolts are shearing.
Goodness! Someone needs to tell South Carolina about square balers. It doesn't have to be a Krone BigPack right away, just something that gives neat little squares. :)
Being smack in the middle of S.C. The reason we round bale is for speed of harvest, transport storage accomidations, and end product conditions........This past year 6 people cut, tedded, raked, baled, hauled, stored close to 2500 4x5 rounds in 3 10 day rain free periods during hay season.....That is 50,000 small squares.....that would have to be handled..... more than once........
There was an amazing amount of dust off some of them round hay bale's Dennis. it all looked stressful, I bet you were pleased to get finished. I think it's nice to sit high up rather than been in a skidsteer if there's plenty of room for the tractor to manoeuvre Still no snow for you Dennis ? Mike
Easier to unroll straw or hay? Those cores are such a pain, sometimes we just throw them off to the side until the end. Shearing pins just takes so much time! We are trying to incorporate some kind of 'fluffing', I feel like that helps quite a bit. I would think those two drums would tear apart the hay a lot more before going into the bale pick up. We got the SL360X with the chains and let it fall onto a conveyor into our baler. Hopefully breaks it a part a little more than just feeding it directly into the baler. Great Video Dennis! That 360 camera sure does come in handy
Thanks! It really depends on the bales more than the material I’ve had good hay bales that feed like a dream and I’ve had some hay that is terrible and same with the straw. I had baled some straw a couple years ago and those bales feed like a dream then I got into some that someone else baled and when I would cut the net off the whole bottom of the bale would fall off the spear, those are a nightmare to feed, mostly pitchforking then.
That is a crazy way to spend a day…at least there were no ground hog holes or nasty hills. Might have gone better if Shannon was there drivin the baler and tellin another good story 🤣.
So is this hay is being sold for animal feed or cover after seeding . South Carolina is a right good ways to travel from your area for a sale . Is it because of drought conditions in there area to being wanting it from you area ?
What cams are you using to follow you in the tractor like that along with the bluetooth? I want to set something like that up in our barn when we are bringing in hay with the grapple.
I’m using an Insta360 x3 to capture 360 degree video then I use the insta 360 studio to keyframe the movement to follow the tractor or anything else I want to show. I use a DJI mic for sound and sync it during the editing.
When you were looking at new tractors did you ever look at a Deutz? I’ve been looking at the 6140’s online for a couple weeks. Their prices are fantastic. The only thing I wonder about is how they hold up. I don’t see a lot of people talking about them. But i know they’re big overseas
@@DLHFarms I haven’t personally seen any where I’m at but I do have a dealer about an hour away. The guy trying to sell me one seems like he would get you whatever you needed. I just wonder why they’re so much cheaper than Deere, Massey, etc… Makes you wonder if they’re cheap parts. But I’ve also heard they’re very high quality. So who knows. He’s got a 2022 6130 powershift with a loader he’d sell for $110k. Awful tempting
Hope you have some free time to get some good food and see some of the sites when you go to Charleston. Beautiful city, but downtown is not very large vehicle friendly.
The guy that owned the hay that was running the unroller will be the one that takes the hay down there. My wife and I did go on our honeymoon there though I still remember Bubba Gump shrimp
@@DLHFarms Ok. I am relatively new to your channel. I was watching things out of order. I got confused between the 5700 S and the 5700 Global. Not realizing there were two tractors. Also, in most cases when I saw you in a red MF, I assumed it was the 4710. Not realizing you had sold THAT to your dad. Glad to see there is a 5700 you like. Should we ever want to upgrade from our 4707, I was worried we had nowhere to go. Now I have a better understanding of the 5700 line above us. We watch your channel for more than just MF stuff. There is a debate in the office that perhaps we should hay some of our gun range fields (not the live-fire ones) so we watch how you do stuff to learn. Thanks…and..oops! 😜 -Marky
Is the owner of the hay able to make any money on that hay after the input costs of baling it twice? I agree with your comment about bale it in the field.
I know you would say there’s no power in that building but that won’t stop you Dennis . You would just roll up with a generator/ welder and plug it into it , no problem . With your array of equipment available to you , you always come up with a solution . We enjoy your Channel ! Watching from Raleigh/ Durham, North Carolina USA !
Most of them don’t have tractors to handle round bales and never will. Someone with a horse or a goat or two can’t justify buying a tractor just to feed it with.
Dennis my uncle had extremely bad hay allergies back in the day now he gets a shot or shots for that and never has to wear a mask again and loves not having to wear a mask
@@DLHFarms ok i run 4x6 rolls and i always guessed 25+. I've never rebaled rolls before, an unroller is about 20k plus you have alot of equipment running and working as well. Those rolls were raked with a v rake i assume, very dirty. I used 3 kuhn rotor rakes. Keeps hay cleaner as you well know.
Yeah I hate a v rake. One thing that’s happening here is the guy I’m baling for had me turn the bale pressure all the way down those squares only weigh aboit 35 to 40 pounds. The first roll we did when we first started this at my normal bale pressure we got about 15 bales. The squares were about 50 to 55 pounds
Glad to finally meet someone who hates a v rake as much as i do. They are cheap and just scubs the ground, most people doesn't know what dirty hay smells like. Not sure what you charged the guy for rebaleing, but you had severl $$$$ in it.
Everybody should be masked up. I know it sucks.. but what sucks more is lung issues later in life. Been around far to many old farmers that can't catch their breath anymore. Some to the point it induces a panic attack... then shit gets real in a hurry. Think about it. If the cooling system is plugging up... what are your lungs dealing with?
These tractor manufacturers are really dropping the ball when it comes to the cooling system. Auto reversing fans should be an industry standard on farm tractors. I can definitely see where the rebaling sucks. It would probably suck less if you had one of those machines that stacked the bales and tied them in bundles of 21.
Sorry but I was suggesting something to put the bales in a 21 bale bundle.......Either a Bale Bandit( had one) or a Bale Baron (what we have now) Their is another one Arcusin that makes a 14 bale bundle... but the baron make more manageable, neater bundles....
Why don’t you have the tractor outside so it’s not so dusty set up on the other side of the barn. Rebaleing sucks that’s for sure but without help it’s a necessary evil
The other side of the barn was full of round bales at the time I set up. It had to be where it is then. Now I could move it since the hay has been moved but it’s a lot of work to take down and set up
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As aggravated as you sounded and as many issues as you were having, you weren’t charging that man enough per bale 😆
You are the king of bale flipping 👍🏻
No kidding haha
Ditto
Great video Dennis. Always a lot of work rebaling and very dusty. Done many bales because we sold hay for extra income on the farm. Worst part was rolling the round bales out by hand.
Yeah it’s hard work even doing it like this
Our Set up is under an open shed, so wind direction moves most of the dust...... sometimes at you sometimes away from you..The only time our bale count per hour was slow was when we used a Bale Bandit..... Being as the Bale Baron builds from the bottom and the Bale Bandit from the top.. the Baron is more consistant and less prone to rough up the bales.......causing jams.......
Now I'm not one of them fellas that hollers first but since I'm here, first! Dennis, with all this music and new camera angles and effects and all that stuff, I'm starting to think I'm watching Dave Sparks Channel.
I hope that’s a good thing?
@@DLHFarms
Well that may entail putting a hay grapple on a Blackhawk helicopter before you're done. 🤣
@@justinwatch bahahaha I’d love to see that
Dennis that is a good thing! Keep them coming. Ill be makin my own comment here soon
@@DLHFarms yes that’s a very good thing!
You really did a good job flipping that large roll over with your Massey Ferguson Tractor Dennis .
Haha thanks
When we first started rebaliing..... We considered a Hustler. but as fate would have a farmer who was buying hay from us wanted to get out..... He offered to sell us the whole kit and kabotal........The Simpson unroller tables, 5070 NH baler a Bale Bandit, trailers and the store Contracts...... That was 4 years ago....... We swapped out the NHbaler and Bandit this past June ..We now have 6 stores with 2 more new locations set to come on line this month......Presently we can load onto a 53ft staged trailer a 21 bale bundle. about every 7 minutes..
How’s the Simpson doing?
@@DLHFarms When we Purchased the Complete outfit, We had to operate it under his Shed while the building Company was erecting ours...... We never have used the "Fluffer: because it creates too many fines....We feed the windrow into the baler as it comes off the bale..... Which requires gearing all the tables to the same feet per minute travel....and a high dollar needle valve on the hydralic line to controll the feed rate of all the tables together...... then adding some means of spring assisted hold downs to keep the baler pickup from snatching hay off the baler feed table ...... The first Incline Table has holes worn over the supports under the bottom....but stil going strong......... When we gonna see yours operate?????.
@@farmingforfunandprofit940
Once I get back in the mood to make some videos haha
You made my knees very sore watching you getting in and out of cabs.. Won't be long you'll have so many people wanting you to rebale, it will be a full time job. LOL
I don’t want to be nosy but I wonder what people are getting $ to rebale. Wonder if it’s worth the trouble. But then again it’s something to keep you busy in the winter time
@@nalley6815 I’m getting 1.50 per bale
We been at it for 5 years and nobody is beatin down or door....... besides keeping 6 big box stores supplied with OUR hay demands most of our efforts....
Very nice intro, I liked the music also. I would hate to rebale hay, doing it once was always enough for me. My dad always had us bale up all the broken bales when the barn was empty in the spring. Ron
Thanks Ron! In a world full of haters I’m glad at lest a few people liked it.
Great video Dennis. You made me tired just watching you. Hope the next day went better for you.
It is definitely a work out. If I did that everyday I would be in good shape except for my knees.
Really appreciate the different camera angles, I know it's a pain when you're working, but I really enjoy the views, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I tried rebaling 3 winters ago.. that was all I needed to give it up.. I was buying hay to rebale and could never find hay put up well enough where it worked really well.. like you too many clumps = lots of shear pins.. after all was said and done just couldn't get it to pencil.. hopefully your math is better.. sold my unroller to someone who wanted to get into rebaling and I won't do it again..for the few i was making I'm better off planting more hay, baling it correctly from the beginning and using my winters/rainy days to prep for next season and make sure all my equipment is ready.. best of luck.. I'd help you bale hay in the field any day but if you say we're rebaling today, I'm going to call in sick
Haha
My son and I tried rebaling 2 round bales January 28th. We unrolled by hand and it was miserably dusty. We always estimated 20-22 square bales per round. We got 21, 55 # bales per round bale, which is nice to know. I just purchased a 575 and wanted to try it out. Worked pretty good. Looks like that unroller is feeding a lot of hay, maybe that’s why the bolts are shearing.
Usually it’s the core that gets the pins
Great video thank you for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching
Goodness! Someone needs to tell South Carolina about square balers. It doesn't have to be a Krone BigPack right away, just something that gives neat little squares. :)
Haha
Being smack in the middle of S.C. The reason we round bale is for speed of harvest, transport storage accomidations, and end product conditions........This past year 6 people cut, tedded, raked, baled, hauled, stored close to 2500 4x5 rounds in 3 10 day rain free periods during hay season.....That is 50,000 small squares.....that would have to be handled..... more than once........
That’s one thing I remember on my 6330 I had. If it had even the smallest amount of dust on the screen it would run significantly hotter
Yep
There was an amazing amount of dust off some of them round hay bale's Dennis.
it all looked stressful,
I bet you were pleased to get finished.
I think it's nice to sit high up rather than been in a skidsteer if there's plenty of room for the tractor to manoeuvre
Still no snow for you Dennis ?
Mike
Still no snow unfortunately. Lots and lots of rain
Easier to unroll straw or hay? Those cores are such a pain, sometimes we just throw them off to the side until the end. Shearing pins just takes so much time!
We are trying to incorporate some kind of 'fluffing', I feel like that helps quite a bit. I would think those two drums would tear apart the hay a lot more before going into the bale pick up. We got the SL360X with the chains and let it fall onto a conveyor into our baler. Hopefully breaks it a part a little more than just feeding it directly into the baler. Great Video Dennis! That 360 camera sure does come in handy
Thanks! It really depends on the bales more than the material I’ve had good hay bales that feed like a dream and I’ve had some hay that is terrible and same with the straw. I had baled some straw a couple years ago and those bales feed like a dream then I got into some that someone else baled and when I would cut the net off the whole bottom of the bale would fall off the spear, those are a nightmare to feed, mostly pitchforking then.
@@DLHFarms I know you hate unrolling but ever think about upgrading from the hustler? Like the simpco with a staging table?
@@hammerhayllc if I keep doing this I need to do something different probably.
@@hammerhayllc Do'n't get the wrong idea.... as is it will work..... but takes some engineering to make it work right......
GOOD JOB MY MAN 🙂
Thanks!
As like no. 💯 I'm compelled to remind Dennis. Everything, your job is to do everything.
Haha
Looks like you could of used another person there helping Dennis, alot of work for sure Bud,
Hope you picked up a few more sheer bolts 👍🏻
Got another bag of pins in the mail couple days ago and 17 more round bales showed up in my barn yesterday 🫣
Are the pins shearing because it’s being fed to fast? I wished I lived closer I could give you a hand.
Usually it’s the core that will shear the pin or sometimes a big clump comes off. A lot of it has to do with the operator.
Good video.
Thanks
👍
Waiting for an update version with the new Massy baler…maybe less shear pins 🤷♂️
Haven’t tried rebaling with it yet. Baled 13k in the field so far so good.
Got you a new introduction I see , cool
Thanks! Been working on some new stuff
How many squares do you get out of those rounds?
20 to 22
That is a crazy way to spend a day…at least there were no ground hog holes or nasty hills.
Might have gone better if Shannon was there drivin the baler and tellin another good story 🤣.
Bahaha! I’ll take a groundhog hole and a hill over this crap
So is this hay is being sold for animal feed or cover after seeding . South Carolina is a right good ways to travel from your area for a sale . Is it because of drought conditions in there area to being wanting it from you area ?
Animal feed. Not sure why but this guy has been selling hay down there for several years I think he gets about 14 a bale down there.
What cams are you using to follow you in the tractor like that along with the bluetooth? I want to set something like that up in our barn when we are bringing in hay with the grapple.
I’m using an Insta360 x3 to capture 360 degree video then I use the insta 360 studio to keyframe the movement to follow the tractor or anything else I want to show. I use a DJI mic for sound and sync it during the editing.
@@DLHFarms cool thank you.
When you were looking at new tractors did you ever look at a Deutz? I’ve been looking at the 6140’s online for a couple weeks. Their prices are fantastic. The only thing I wonder about is how they hold up. I don’t see a lot of people talking about them. But i know they’re big overseas
I did not, they are hard to find around here
@@DLHFarms I haven’t personally seen any where I’m at but I do have a dealer about an hour away. The guy trying to sell me one seems like he would get you whatever you needed. I just wonder why they’re so much cheaper than Deere, Massey, etc… Makes you wonder if they’re cheap parts. But I’ve also heard they’re very high quality. So who knows. He’s got a 2022 6130 powershift with a loader he’d sell for $110k. Awful tempting
Hope you have some free time to get some good food and see some of the sites when you go to Charleston.
Beautiful city, but downtown is not very large vehicle friendly.
The guy that owned the hay that was running the unroller will be the one that takes the hay down there. My wife and I did go on our honeymoon there though I still remember Bubba Gump shrimp
What do you think of the hustler Rebalers,? Considering one for our farm.
If you like breaking shear pins in your baler there great.
May need to put a sheet of pvc on the bale ramp.
When did you get a second Massey after the 4710?
I got that 5711 Dyna 4 in the spring. I’ve got a few videos on it.
@@DLHFarms I must’ve missed that. I thought you took a 5700 series back to the dealer.
@@DLHFarms Ok. I am relatively new to your channel. I was watching things out of order. I got confused between the 5700 S and the 5700 Global. Not realizing there were two tractors. Also, in most cases when I saw you in a red MF, I assumed it was the 4710. Not realizing you had sold THAT to your dad. Glad to see there is a 5700 you like. Should we ever want to upgrade from our 4707, I was worried we had nowhere to go. Now I have a better understanding of the 5700 line above us. We watch your channel for more than just MF stuff. There is a debate in the office that perhaps we should hay some of our gun range fields (not the live-fire ones) so we watch how you do stuff to learn. Thanks…and..oops! 😜 -Marky
@@John1911 no problem 😉
Is the owner of the hay able to make any money on that hay after the input costs of baling it twice? I agree with your comment about bale it in the field.
Hell he bought that hay I think for 60 a bale. I think he said he’s getting 14 a square in Charleston SC.
How many bales do you get per bale, I guess about 18. Thanks
20 to 22 on these
The man that owned the hay felt bad because he was full of hay dust
That’s the truth geez
👍👍👍
Thanks!
You kind of need is a exhaust fan in the wall over the bailer . Looks like that would really help ?
I know you would say there’s no power in that building but that won’t stop you Dennis . You would just roll up with a generator/ welder and plug it into it , no problem . With your array of equipment available to you , you always come up with a solution . We enjoy your Channel ! Watching from Raleigh/ Durham, North Carolina USA !
Yeah it needs to be set up with the tractor sticking out of the building but this was the only spot I had inside when I set it up
Not everyone can say they have bailed hay in a shelter
I can under 2 different shelters with 2 different machines.......
I wonder if you could put a big fan there that John Deere tractor then just sit stationary store and blow all that there’s dust away
I actually did this last weekend seemed to help
How many bails are you getting from a round bail
About 20
I learned something new from your video. You can rebate hay. Why did you do that?
Man had round bales but needs square bales to sell to horse farmers in Charleston SC
Your right it sucks.
Dennis I hope you this stuff finished and over with. You need an extra hand!
17 more round bales showed up wild I wasn’t there yesterday. 😥
one of these days-- horse people will learn to just feed round or big squares and save the labor costs...
Most of them don’t have tractors to handle round bales and never will. Someone with a horse or a goat or two can’t justify buying a tractor just to feed it with.
When we rebale we have 1 person at the unroller with a fork watching for wads of hay .
Can’t find no help. I’m spread kinda thin.
Dennis my uncle had extremely bad hay allergies back in the day now he gets a shot or shots for that and never has to wear a mask again and loves not having to wear a mask
That’s awesome
Why re bale the hay?
To turn a $60 bale of hay into $280 worth or square bales.
Are those 4x5 rolls and how many square bales were u getting?
Yes 4x5 20 to 22 bales per roll
@@DLHFarms ok i run 4x6 rolls and i always guessed 25+. I've never rebaled rolls before, an unroller is about 20k plus you have alot of equipment running and working as well. Those rolls were raked with a v rake i assume, very dirty. I used 3 kuhn rotor rakes. Keeps hay cleaner as you well know.
Yeah I hate a v rake. One thing that’s happening here is the guy I’m baling for had me turn the bale pressure all the way down those squares only weigh aboit 35 to 40 pounds. The first roll we did when we first started this at my normal bale pressure we got about 15 bales. The squares were about 50 to 55 pounds
Glad to finally meet someone who hates a v rake as much as i do. They are cheap and just scubs the ground, most people doesn't know what dirty hay smells like. Not sure what you charged the guy for rebaleing, but you had severl $$$$ in it.
Is that the mf4710 and the new massey ferguson ?
Steppin up that editing game i like it. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Hay Dennis check out my rebaling vid. One of these days I will set up. Have a blessed one.
Everybody should be masked up. I know it sucks.. but what sucks more is lung issues later in life. Been around far to many old farmers that can't catch their breath anymore. Some to the point it induces a panic attack... then shit gets real in a hurry. Think about it. If the cooling system is plugging up... what are your lungs dealing with?
I had a mask on. The other guy doesn’t work for me not my responsibility.
@@DLHFarms Yup I know. Been there done that.
U are not doing it in a rain storm ulesss you have a SUNY day
Yes your correct
These tractor manufacturers are really dropping the ball when it comes to the cooling system. Auto reversing fans should be an industry standard on farm tractors. I can definitely see where the rebaling sucks. It would probably suck less if you had one of those machines that stacked the bales and tied them in bundles of 21.
Yes and yes
I think the Deutz 6 series comes standard with a reversing fan. I know you can get it as an option on the 5g series. They sure would be handy!!!!
@@farmingforfunandprofit940 could you highlight the part where I said he should buy anything?
@@farmingforfunandprofit940 damn that’s awful expensive just for a fan!
Sorry but I was suggesting something to put the bales in a 21 bale bundle.......Either a Bale Bandit( had one) or a Bale Baron (what we have now) Their is another one Arcusin that makes a 14 bale bundle... but the baron make more manageable, neater bundles....
czcams.com/video/L06ry60I1m8/video.html The Norden squeeze looks like it will work with your accumulator . This is the link to their video.
Already seen it. Talked to my salesman about getting me one to try out
@@DLHFarms Cool maybe you can make a video . I wonder if it will work on 12 bales flat without a tie-grabber grapple
@@eof3100 not sure but probably
Why don’t you have the tractor outside so it’s not so dusty set up on the other side of the barn. Rebaleing sucks that’s for sure but without help it’s a necessary evil
It's running the PTO for the rebaler.
The other side of the barn was full of round bales at the time I set up. It had to be where it is then. Now I could move it since the hay has been moved but it’s a lot of work to take down and set up
why can't you just sell round bales
Way more money in squares for one and also need the squares to fill orders for squares.