I finally got to ride my new custom bike-and I have a lot to say about it!
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2022
- In the last episode we built up my custom titanium hardtail mountain bike, which was made according to an exhaustive list of specifications. At the end of the build I immediately got sick and could not ride, so in this video I actually take the bike out and give my thoughts on it.
I worked with Dave from Sage to design this bike. It was a lot of sending measurements back and forth, sending photos, pictures of tape measures, videos, etc. We went through several versions and worked through all the details, like ensuring the front tire would clear the downtube, and ensuring my seatpost would fully insert and end up at the perfect ride heigh when extended to 150mm.
It's easy to find a 27.5 bike that fits me, but not a 29er. In the realm of 29ers, the Sage Powerline was already pretty close to what I wanted, since it has a pretty short reach and a nimble geometry for covering ground-I just wanted it to be a little more aggressive, but not TOO aggressive to where it's just a plow. So we ended up with a little longer reach and chainstay than stock, also an increased wheelbase and shorter standover height. If it wasn't for Dave at Sage, I would have messed up the geometry pretty bad.
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Right side of seat tube between bottle cage bolts, silhouette of sasquatch.
The knife has a silhouette of Oscar on one side.
It says powerline because you will be going electric speeds
The GoPro mount that is removable on the head tube? There logo is held in with screws and you make things. 😊
Dog outline?
I really like your take on geometry. It feels like manufacturers (and many cycling journalists) are pushing everyone towards super-slack, super-long bikes that don't make sense for many riders, especially those of us on the East Coast.
I agree. Most bike companies will say I should be a large, but I feel more comfortable on a medium. I have ridden a large but never really like it or being so stretched out.
@@TeddyParker no one listens when I tell them this. If you need the aggressive numbers for the trails you ride go ahead. But mf's out there being 5'6" on a large with a 480 reach is genuinely insane.
@@TeddyParker I guess you know that from experience.
Interestingly, as a tall person I love the way geo is going, I just think manufacturers need to add a larger size or a smaller size or both to just fill in the gap, because the slack is nice, but only when the reach and stand over are properly fitting to the rider
@@TeddyParker I didn't see that comment as mean, just a guess
Atherton bikes offer custom fit for like $100 extra, apart from the ~20 sizes they already have. May not be a very economical business idea but it’s the best for the riders
Yeah that's really good to know! I don't even see how charging the $100 is worth it for them.
@@SethsBikeHacks They are not starting at the budget end of the market. It's pretty much custom from the get go. Awesome bikes, but at a price to match
Awesome! Now all I need to do is sell a kidney + $100. 😄
@@SethsBikeHacks They use 3d printed titanium joints which makes it really easy to customize
@@Nythos_ And round carbon tubes which are easy to cut to length
I bought a gravel bike from Sage. We used dimensions that I got from a fitter. Dave was a blast to work with. When I got it all put together this summer I was blown away on how comfortable the bike felt, especially for long rides. I am now a total believer that getting a bike fit and getting a custom frame is the way to go, but wholly cow was that an expensive way to go. The bike fit was by far the cheapest part of the whole thing.
So happy to hear that you are loving your bike! I was curious how you have been doing. I hope all is well.
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A great hardtail that fits well is a thing of beauty. Congrats on an incredible bike.
I am still saving for that binary maniak you helped design... that's a sweet looking bike!
@Bermpeak001 , go scam someone else please, not interested!
Ask it for review)
@@BRUTALIY I've reviewed two of sage's bikes already, they're wonderful bikes.
This is my dream, to one day have a titanium hardtail built for specifically myself only. Happy for you Seth that you were able to get yours to enjoy.
Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you, your family, and all your viewers/subscribers
Couldn't agree more, I almost pulled the trigger on the binary maniak bike that Steve from hardtailparty helped design. But I just couldn't justify the expense when there are other bills to pay!
@@juansanchez-tr1dq Right there with you, two kids on college $$$$>🪽🪽
@@johnnydoe66 rip, hope college works out, bad time to be student
Why would you wish Merry Christmas to someone who is Jewish? If the name Seth didn't give it away, if him specifically mentioning both Hanukkah and Christmas in the video didn't give it away, nor his looks, I'm not sure what would. When in doubt, happy holidays is best.
@Justin W I celebrate Christmas and I am sure Seth isn't the weak minded type to get offended. Plus, I don't judge someone by the color of their skin. So, I am not changing my beliefs or how I greet someone. That's part of our society's problem, too many people are offended and of weak character. Just because someone is offended, doesn't make them right.
Great job Seth, that bike looks insane. Truly awesome how you have grown so so much 😮. GREAT JOB!🎉
Has he grown? He looks just as short as in previous videos ;)
@@Jessev741 hahahahahah😐
I am on the other end of the scale at 6,10 and I had a similar experience when I first road my xxl transition spire 1 1/2 years ago
Transition has XXL! Yay, added to my list. It's a short list. Santa Cruz, Trek, and now Transition.
@@MrTemplarViking they have the biggest xxl at 535 mm reach for spire
6,7 here...i will never go under 520 reach again, no matter how hard it is to get around switchbacks
@@breakr4144 canyons new strive is pretty long if your looking also geometron is a great brand for big bikes
My God you must have a high center of gravity! Does it affect your handling?
Great work!! You look really good on that bike!!
7:03 I'M BUILT! DIFFRUNT!
Love the bike though omg that is a dream hardtail. We're both right around the same height and that thing has me drooling.
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The bike looks incredible. So happy to see a small business get the widespread publicity they so clearly deserve, even more so a bike manufacturer. They have to be almost as stoked as you are!
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, we are stoked beyond words. It was a pleasure to work with Seth as he is truly as genuine in person as he is in the videos.
I'm happy for you. Happy holidays. Thank you so much.
Thanks for posting!
I really enjoy watching your work! Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos!!
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i told myself at the beggining of the video that Seth was gonna realize he's been riding the wrong size bike his whole life lol. that is a beautiful bike, and i cant wait to see ti featured more. great work Sage!
Thank you for the kind words Chris!
Great bike, channel, and growth. You deserve it. Can't wait to see what else you got down the pipeline. Have an amazing holiday.
Love it! Beautiful frame and build. I still have my custom built steel hard tail from the early nineties but cant ride it on trail anymore because my back cant take it! I love to see what you have done here bringing attention to this craft/art that many can benefit from. Happy holidays Seth!
Sweet ride. Love the paint scheme with the personal touches. When you find or build something that fits like a glove the confidence it gives you is intoxicating and dangerous
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3:00 breaks the mount he was so proud of 😂
By far one of the raddest hardtails I've ever seen. Love it! 👌
It is a HUGE eye opener when you ride a bike built just for you. Many of the people worried about trendy Geo would get shut up pretty fast when they first try a bike REALLY fit to them.
Totally agree!
I went to 165mm cranks this year as well and really like them. Helped with my occasional knee pain along with slightly improved balance/stability, tech climbing, and acceleration have all been my experience. Might even try 160mm or 155mm...
How tall are you
@@spyder027 5'11" but with shortish legs
this video released literally when i just finished part 1. glad to see how far this channel has gotten
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The way you explain things is on point, especially for someone who is getting into biking.
The way you have the saddle jacked all the way forward makes your effective STA even steeper than 76.21. If you leave it there you could have gone steeper. Great bike!
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I never thought a hardtail could get cooler! Great job both Seth and SAGE Bikes on the design. Keep it up Seth!
Much appreciated for the kind words! Happy Holidays to you!
As a 5'2" man, THANK YOU! I highly recommend looking into Lee McCormack (Lee Likes Bikes) "rider area distance" and his other work on bike fit. He's done a ton of work on it, and makes a very good case that almost all people ride bikes that are too big for them these days.
Makes a very good case? Bud, that’s easy…people are different sizes and bikes come in like 3…not difficult knowing that things mass produced aren’t custom fit. I’ll blow your mind some more. “Fitted” hats are just elastic stretchable hats and aren’t custom fit. I know, mind blown right?
YES!!! Just asked Seth to watch those episodes of “Joy of Bike” and the R.A.D measuring system to see how close Seth’s new bike is to Lee’s measuring system. This could help so many if the R. A. D. Is legit.
@@kmazzanti Nice, I hope he watches it! And then trades in that medium Revel of his for a small.
@@kmazzanti It's debateable. RAD is probably more applicable to old school riding technique (the hang off the back style) vs modern technique (stay centered and get low)
@@mrvwbug4423I calculated my RAD and found that my setup at the time was +6mm off my ideal. My stem stack height at the time was already too low and scary to ride steep descents in. Now I'm a whole +16mm off after adding a spacer under my stem and it turned me into a way more confident descender.
RAD is good for nerding out on geometry, but it's definitely outdated on modern bikes as you say, and the average spender would be spending more time on math than actually riding.
Congrats Berm... enjoy your build, Blessings to You All @ B.Peak !
That's awesome that you were able to do this would love to see a full suspension setup with adjusted geometry.
Love what you do!
Who needs diamondback when you have your own bike bult by SAGE.
Great Bike Seth.
Nice to see someone else going all out on a Hardtail. Looks like you’re going to be having huge fun on that bike.
I’ve a similar spec’d HT with the Berd spokes. What a different those wheels make !!!
Enjoy !!!
When I first started watching this channel Seth was teaching me to hone my bunny hop and wheelie drop skills. He was hitting little dirt jump loops and some occasional street riding in South Florida. Now the channel is based in one of the MTB meccas and is responsible for the construction of a public bike park. It serves as a desirable showcase and proving ground for new products and brands. All the result of lots of creativity and hard work. Keep ripping and sharing it all with us, what a great way to while away the hours until we can all be on the trails
Now I am imagining a collab with Hardtail Party in Sedona and putting this Titan dream on the trail with his Maniak. :D
Yaaaaaassss!
Agreed!
if you're comfortable sharing, it'd be very interesting to see your body measurements to line up to how this bike fits you (height, armspan, inseam, etc.). really excellent explanation of how geometry depends on all parts of the bike and body. also would be interesting to see you get a professional "fit" from a road bike expert, they've been doing these calculations (as best as they can) for a long time!
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you got to finally ride and i had to change my shorts...not only is it gorgeous but the sounds it makes(or lack there of) are super special...
Dude that is so cool!
What a way you’ve come since your days on your Trek
It’s so cool to see you build and ride a bike as amazing as this
Evans MTB Saga was complaining that you spent so much on this bike. I feel like if you enjoy mountain biking and you want a really good bike and you dont car about the price you should do it.
Evans so jealous
That channel us mostly whining although it may have some useful information for those on budget..
That bike is awesome i also liked the way you picked the geometry fun, fast, shred mode, Having a frame fit to you is very pleasant you can throw it around and ride all day without feeling fatigue. I wish i had that bike i would ride trails all day, everyday but that is just a dream for me, i hope this christmas i have a new bike just like that 😄. Awesome job!!💯 been watching since 2015 when are you gonna release new bike hacks? i missed those and learned a lot thank you for those bike hacks been usuing them till now.
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Great bike! Congratulations, your videos are outstanding; thank you for sharing.
Custom sized bikes are the way to go once you work up the nerve to spend that amount of money. Cannot wait to get my Neuhaus Metalworks Humgingbird in the spring. Hardtails are so much fun. Enjoy the bike.
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For me a custom bike would solve a whole other set of issues.
I'm a mountain biker at heart, but since there are very few good challenging trails within reach for me, I mostly ride and enjoy paved paths now with some light unpaved sections, so I just want an all-road bike (between road and gravel) with MTB inspired characteristics.
Basically this means I want a longer and slightly (not too much) slacker road bike for smoother cornering at speed, better control and better comfort.
I think I should start saving up for a custom geo all-road bike..
I felt this way when I discovered gravel bikes. While I thoroughly appreciate feeling the need for speed, I also thoroughly enjoy going off-road. So I'm mentally preparing for a future custom Ti soft tail gravel bike with adjustable drop outs for touring. Lotsa luck with your dream bike!
Hey Seth, when will you be doing more 10 MTB products videos? Love your vids btw.
Yes Please!!! I see a lot of people going from bmx to mtb. If you can do some products for bmxer's going to mtb that would be amazing!
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Congrats Seth! I'm happy for you!
Congratulations! It is a beautiful bike. I just got word from David this week about the Storm King GP frame that they just built for me. They just sent it to the person who does the cerakote, and I am very excited to see what he comes up with. I hope to have this bike finally built this spring. Woohoo!
Titanium has a ride quality you can try to describe but really only makes sense once you ride one.
Well said!
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Who else loves SETH!!! ❤❤
@Funky Monk what…
this is a cringe compliment
@@ashtons.2282 so is the name Ashton
@@nickyocom1699nice one nickyocom1699 😎😎😎🤙
Who doesn't...?
Love your stuff man
This is what I felt when I sat on my stumpjumper the first time. It is a magical feeling
Thank you for making these videos they have changed my riding for the better see you in the new year
165mm cranksets are a godsend for short people ( as much as 175-180 for giants like me)
I'm 1.9m and I'd try 165mm...
@@jonl8816 depends on the use case.
Just bought my first real mountain bike and at 5'2" it was an ordeal. I think I'm always gonna need to trial a bike before purchasing.
What bike is it?
@@618outdoors I ended up with a used yeti SB140
@@dorothyvankomen4109 sweet!!
I have a SAGE MTB and I love my hardtail. It just rips. I agree that it feels like it’s part of me.
So happy to hear you love your bike Jeff! That gives us a warm feeling inside! Keep up the great riding.
Congrats on the bike, seems like everything fell into place on that build. I’m really happy for you! Cheers to 2023.
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Congrats! That's a beautiful paint job, I like the color. 😍
Awesome bike! Congratulations!!
this is hands down the best looking hardtail ive ever seen !
Love your new bike ! Very happy you found the perfect builder to partner with. I am sure you will love it forever. Happy Holidays to you and your family !
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Sweet Ride!! Looks great!
What a cool bike! So well thought out and Perfect for you dude!
The custom fit shows, super dope Bike!
So glad to see you actually riding again
Excited to see the new bike in action!
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great video! tahnk you! and a neat bike! so stocked about the camo paint job. cool idea. Greets from Germany
i still remember 15 year old me watching your vids with the old trek hardtail about wheelies stoppies and parking lot skills XD and now this is how far everything has got! so glad ive been keeping up with the channel last couple of years!
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I had a custom steel HT bike built my Capitol Bicycles. I'm tall and very long legged and my old Trek XXL frame didn't fit. I've never looked back since I got it. Custom frames are a game changer!
Congratulations on your new bike! It's an amazing machine from the materials to all the little details, and looks like it fits you perfect.
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I have been watching Seth for almost 6years now, And I must say the quality of the content is always going up, It feels really good to watch Seth 😀
I`m happy you like the new bike.
You deserve that bike. Thank YOU for riding with me :)
I absolutely love this channel
I think I'd have hurt myself doing what you did at the end of the video.
Such a beautiful bike man!! glad to see how far you’ve come!!
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Great pair of videos, enjoyed this a lot and chuffed for you and your perfect HT 👌
Im so happy for you Seth! The bike looks amazing, love the details and its so good to hear you are in love with this beast 😉
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Congrats!
Glad you finally got a ride that fits you! The least we can say is, you deserved it, and more than anyone else! You vids have been informing and entertaining us at another level for so long now! Gratz for everything!
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"I'm not a tall person scaled down, I'm totally different" YES SETH YES. I'M GONNA GRAFFITI THIS ON SEVERAL COMPANY BUILDINGS.
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Heck yes Seth. Great content and a wonderful plug for the bike industry that is out there making cool stuff for the people who are really into this MTB thang. Keep spreading the joy.
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Such a cool bike. I ride a Sage Barlow and think what Dave is doing at Sage is so awesome.
You ROCK Terence! Glad you are loving your Barlow!
Nice ride! Welcome to the Ti HT club! That inside feeling comes from a proper reach/HT&ST angle. I have switched to XL frames just to get the in bike feeling, and still have to put 65mm stems on them and I am only 6', its been driving me nuts for years. Frame designers don't get it, steep ST and slack HT means the cockpit shrinks even with a small increase in top tube. Custom bike would solve the bad geo combos that are all too common.
Well said.
Very cool BIKE! It's amazing when you hear the true feedback from a fully custom bike. I worked in bikes shops for years and you hear great things and wonderful things. This was a great recap.
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sweet bike and video brings me back to your starting days
Great video,made me laugh,merry Xmas and all the best for the new year 🎉
I miss seeing you ride!
I just switched to 5 dev 165mm cranks and pedals. I agree with you, climbing is soooo much better than before. It does feel like more work on straight trails though.
Ride in good health brother and enjoy !!!
Seth your videos are the best!
That bike is so amazing!
Wowzaa, sick looking bikes are the greatest thing ever
I look at a *TON* of mountain bikes on Instagram. It's the only reason I use it, and the number of times I've stared at them is probably in the thousands. This is one of, if not *THE* nicest bikes I've seen. That blue camo with the raw titanium asthetic, and how contrast with the kaahima looks so dope.
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Great vid Seth love the content!!!
I love the bike. I'm fortunate to have a Sage as well. One comment: While it's true that a custom bike that fits well is a wonderful thing, a custom bike that ends up not fitting, or you don't love for whatever reason, is unfortunately worth very little in the resale market.
Just something to keep in mind.
Hey Sam! Glad you are loving your Sage and even more so that you are also a fan of Seth's channel. I hope all is well with you.
The bike looks sick... Good luck mate!
With the kit!... FIRE!!!
Happy Holidays Seth! :-) Great to see you excited about this dream bike. Wish you all the best fun on it man!
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Love your bike. The blue fits so well love your channel
I'm a similar height to Seth. I recently went from a reach of 450mm down to 435mm and loved the change. I ride janky trails on the North Shore so I like slacker HTAs (I ride 63). But with the reduced reach, my bikes came to life. I like the stability of the slacker HTA combined with the mobility from the shorter reach. I also went from 165mm to 155mm cranks. LOVE LOVE LOVE the shorter cranks. I'm not sure why we've been so stuck on 170s for so long. I'm telling you, if you're in that 5'7/5'8 height range, and liked going to 165, don't shy away from trying 155! Less pedal strikes, easier on the knees on the climbs, and better foot position on the downs (for people in that height range). One formula to try, is take your inseam in mm (with bike shoes on) and multiple by 0.197 to get your crank length.
Enjoy your new bike bro, it looks like it rides nice.
Congratulations
That's an awesome bike Seth!