AMD Athlon 3000G Review & Overclocking: $50 CPU Benchmarks
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2019
- We're benchmarking the AMD Athlon 3000G CPU with Zen+ architecture. It's AMD's newest budget CPU and, although it has an IGP, we're focusing on CPU tests.
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In this video, the AMD Athlon 3000G CPU gets gaming benchmarks versus other CPUs, like the AMD R5 1600, 2600, 3600, and basically everything else that's out. We also overclock the AMD Athlon 3000G to 4.0GHz with a few minutes of work on a B450 motherboard.
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Edit: Sent AMD an email asking for confirmation on the Zen generation and they replied: AMD noted to us that it mistakenly called it a Zen+ part in some media briefings, but clarified that it is actually Zen1. That's why different media had different reporting on generation. Seems like a mixup by AMD in early briefings, but glad it's cleared up. The good news is that this doesn't change performance results, of course.
am i early?
No igp Ocing? This little igp can be overclocked over 1600mhz :-)
In addition to the 14nm process, I think that the fact that it doesn't work on X570 (like Ryzen 1000 parts) suggests to me that the Athlon is Zen not Zen+.
Steve could you do a video on setting up a dedicated streaming PC that uses CPU for encoding? Cover the different quality settings in encoding in OBS to get an idea of what the minimum CPU requirements for encoding at different quality/bitrate settings? Serious streamers use dedicated streaming PC's and there is confusion as to how fast of CPU is really needed.
>LowSpecAlex: am I a joke to you
This thing costs the same as a Celeron here, but it has a much faster iGPU, has 4 threads and not 2, is OCable and tweakable, supports AVX (something even the Pentium does not)...
Honestly, this is a slaughter.
Alexander Yordanov for the price, absolutely.
Same here in Australia, it's also $6AUD cheaper than the Athlon200GE
I just realized you are the Alexander from TechYesCity Chat that I was chatting with, Who's stalking who?
HMMM you were here first 😊
Don't forget superior upgrade path!
@@prescott231233 "For the price"? By what metric is it NOT a slaughter?
The real slaughter is that you can get Ryzen 1600s and 2600s for only $60-80... I've never really seen the point in these low end parts for gaming rigs when you can buy used hardware at way better value...
Funny how AMD took the Athlon 200GE overclock oversight by stride rather than try to lock it down on microcode updates or future processors.
They did try at first, but they said screw it after trying once
@@Dracossaint I mean these are super low end. Someone with some sense probably realized pretty quick it wasn't worth the damn effort for something that has a few dollars of margin ;p
It was probably cheaper to do it this way. Plus some free publicity.
@@devilmikey00 well u would think that would be what happens
but people with common sense are rare
@@devilmikey00 aye, they also tried battling people flashing 480 to 580s and vega 56 to 64 power tables/flashing. they tried to address it with this gen as well. But just like thouse examples, people figured a way around it once and they said screw it XD. Its not worth fighting that nieche and like ya said good publicity . Theirs also the fact some people do that stuff because their not gonna buy x this eitheir way and who knows maybe theyll break it earlier then normal and be forced to buy another one anyway.
That’s why this channel is one of the best: others constantly talk about hardware worth $ 1,000 or more, and here are "$50 CPU Benchmarks".
You want budget hardware benchmarks? "randomgaminginhd" has you covered.
@@Ashachi meanwhile tech yes city : "7 dollar cpu vs 10 dollar cpu"
You might like LowSpecGamer and his game mutilation.
@@Ashachi I was going to mention it too, one of my favourite channels, can it game at 720/1080p at 30fps 😊
@@therecoverer2481 randomgaminginhd did a every part but the PSU for 99p, the PSU was an exception as he didn't want to put his life in too much danger
Ah yes, Athlon 3000G paired with 2080Ti, my dream setup.
Dude, my 2200g actaully makes pretty good use of my Titan Xp, and yeah, at 1080p... it’s laughably good compared to what I expected (running a 240Hz 1080p monitor with the Titan Xp Star Wars collectors edition overclocked beyond 13 GHz Vram and custom curve on the core overclock, power limit to max and bouncing off that limit but around 2 GHz or just above depending on the game on 3840 CUDA cores so like 10% faster than a 1080ti overclocked or 2080 overclocked. Not bad for a 4 threaded CPU that costs $59 new recently if you lived near a Microcenter. I was blown away!
It only uses like 70% of the overclocked Titan on Fortnite for example (it’s like 165 fps at epic maxed out settings, so 1440p 165 Hz would be just about perfect, though you probably want to ramp it up to 2080ti just for that bump since it should just be GPU bound or a bit of a toss up for the 2200g at 4 GHz).
It was supposed to be almost a joke (well at first just doing a CPU benchmark run to gauge its performance), but then it did so well I just added everything RGB to say “RGB makes it go faster!”, so now it’s on an RGB ringlight cooler (from Ryzen 1700), the X370 board has RGB, and I have 2x RGB SSDs, and I just bought some TridentZ NEO RGB RAM, lol, the carnival is back in town baby! Woo! Oh yeah, the stupid Titan only does red (unless you got the Jedi order edition, in which case green, I wanted SLI to “bring balance to the GeForce”, but it was before I had a high paying job).
Don’t fret, my main system is Threadripper with quad Xfire for 4k Ultra gaming (it’s over double the FPS of the Titan, I think it’s about a tie with 2x Titan RTX which is the best unfortunately you can get from Nvidia, and I’m using laughably old quad Fury, but it actually runs 4k nicely for dirt cheap, lol, 100 fps in Crysis 3 at 4k Ultra, haha! Mind blowing performance, can’t complain since I basically only have a use for the Titan in Fortnite and SWBF2 lootcrate edition (because it’s a Star Wars card it’s just more fun for the novelty in a Star Wars game).
@@jakegarrett8109 that has got to be the weirdest flex I have ever seen.
Y-you ok dude?
Louis Garbour it’s ok, I’m fine (testing Ryzen tri-core at the moment, no SMT), this is normal, haha!
Im seeing 497cb R15 with 3c/3t at 4.35 GHz, so not bad! It’s way faster than my old laptops, that’s for sure. I may test game performance later because I saw some mind blowing results earlier today.
I saw a HUGE uplift from 170 fps to 190 fps disabling SMT in Fortnite from 8c/16t to 8c/8t, but stupid amounts of stutters if you use Shadowplay to record with only 8 threads, I was getting 1% lows of 1.1 fps! So basically 1 second per frame, and 0.3 fps for the 0.1% lows! Prior config with hyperthreading/SMT was indeed lower avg but it kept a respectable ~80 fps on the 1% lows, that’s huge! So from my testing the extra threads dramatically improved gameplay even though the game didn’t quite know what to do with them resulting in lower frame rate but MUCH improved frame drops. Tested with Ryzen 1700 on sub-zero cooling at 4.2 GHz with SMT and 4.25 GHz without (not a substantial difference), with 2133-12-12-12 Trident Z NEO 3600cl16 (on ambient the best I got was 3200cl16 and then it became a $hitfest trying to boot at -60c and I was lucky to get even 2133 MHz to work, haha!).
Anyways I’m weird, and I like testing random stuff all the time, haha! Also noticed power efficiency only improved 12% at 70c lower temps, I’m kind of surprised because FX saw massive 35% efficiency gains (500w estimate down to 350w) while Ryzen was only like 130w reduced to 115w. But anyways, random learnings of the day after hours of benching and most of the day testing for fun, haha!
It's a legit setup for 4K or 8K gaming
Sina Madani 8k yes, but 4k Id probably bump it up to 2200g or FX-8350 (technically yes, the CPU would be overkill then, as in my testing at 4k with a Titan Xp and FX-8350 stock/underclocked to 4 GHz it looked like most of my games the FX could handle duel Titan Xp/duel 1080ti). But the 2200g is just so close in cost (they were recently $59 new in the US), that I’d just go with that instead of the Athlon for running a $1300+ GPU and 4k/8k setup, but yeah, you really could be fine even on an overclocked Athlon!
Right now graphics cards are embarrassingly behind the performance curve needed for high resolutions, and it’s only worse when Nvidia gimps the best to duel Titan RTX (probably not any improvement over my old 2015 quad Fury, coming in at less than 1/10 the price currently!). At this current time you must use multi-GPU to get 60 fps at high/ultra settings at 4k (and if you’re using low/medium, I’d rather run 1440p high refresh rates, 4k is all about the graphical fidelity).
Needs LN2
yeah, I wanna see Joe turn up for a LN2 Stream with Steve & when the Meme "What CPU is this" starts to see Joes Face when Steve says Athlon3000G 🧔 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think ice water is enough for it to get over ghz
Ugh, sucks in Texas cause it’s like $3+/liter (Airgas wanted $177 for a regular 30L dewar, Tri-gas was $95 and so even delivered to your door way out of service range was still cheaper), damn, was going to do some LN2 benching on my 2200g (delided and pretty epic golden sample), but at that price I’ll just build an LN2 generator or speed up my triple stage cascade plans!
Was going to test with LN2 today, because the plan is to cool the TR-64 core to -100c as my next daily machine, you know, 24/7 capable with less maintenance than a waterloop). That I anticipate would only cost $500 DIY (using used compressors) for normal processors and I’m expecting $3k cost since I’m having to make a custom CNC machined expansion block for TR4 socket since it doesn’t exist and using massive compressors it won’t even sweat it while cooling over 1kW heat load (yeah, I really need to figure out if a 128 core is coming, because if not I could greatly reduce compressor costs and improve efficiency).
I know that the joke is that it runs cool, but let me anecdotally say how cool it runs. With the CPU, GPU, AND SoC voltages all set to as high as my B450M PRO will let me, it barely hits 60°C on sustained stress tests. That's with the cooler that comes in the box.
If you're lucky, that means 4GHz CPU and 1700MHz GPU, that seems like the most anyone is able to get. 2c/4t@4GHz Zen 1 for $49 is a deal when the Vega 3@1700MHzis thrown in. Granted I haven't seen it for the MSRP of $49, I've only seen it as low as $55. But as Steve says Intel isn't competing with it anyway. But do keep an eye on G5400 prices in case they ever come down to a similar price.
I love seeing how far AMD is pushing APU solutions. I want a competitive APU space since i usually build mid-low tier systems and saving money, space, and heat off a GPU would be so dope
Probably with ddr5. Until they finally add some hbm to their apu's.
@@dondraper4438 HBM on APUs will be amazing
@@KalmerVT But far to costly and impractical.
I am hanging out for Zen2/3 + Navi 7nm chiplets in a CPU, I hope it comes in AM4 then I will definitely upgrade my Athlon200GE
@@MrComputerCoder It will increase the price, but it definitely isn't impractical. APUs are bandwidth starved, that's the main reason why they are so slow. If there is HBM on APUs they will have much more bandwidth and thus much more performance
You could build a desktop with this for about $200. Wish this thing existed when i was in highschool, gaming off an AMD A8 laptop cooled with orange juice bottles
Bro, everyone knows the real meta move is rotating popsicles for a cold-air intake.
Jokes aside, glad I'm not the only one who tried to squeeze performance from nothing.
SAME! Except I bought a laptop cooler pad 😂😂😂
@@YoMazR Yeah, I had a fan base that I was shoving said frozen stuff under to force the slightly cooler air up.
Pushing hardware beyond what it was really meant to do was always fun, until the VRAM on the (low end) GPU fried. Then the motherboard died. Then the RAM developed an issue.
I wanted to play with SM3.0, damnit.
I read the first sentence and my brain unconsciously followed it to "But I wanted to go all out, so I spent around $2000".
I love that you are so grounded, in touch and appreciate many have a low budget. Such great content
same
This fuks the Celeron, the Pentium and dual core i3s.
So things that haven't been relevant in low end gaming for awhile now? Looking locally the only i3 I can even buy is the 9100F. It's a quad core but it is more expensive ($79.99). If you are picking up a dual core i3 or even a late pentium branded chip hopefully it's for free out of a scrap pile. Certainly wouldn't pay for it lol.
I believe Intel no longer makes Dual Core i3s.
@@Aelfraed26 since 8'th gen, but shops still have a lot of them.
You mentioned the Celeron and having been stuck using one for a few years and not willing to recommend it to a dinosaur, that surprises me.
@@willembeltman if you were paying attention to was replying to a guy comparing it to dual core i3s which aren't anything someone would buy or that stores even stock.
When a decent amount of ram costs more then the cpu
And you need decent ram speed to maximize APU performance too.
than***
Not to mention a decent PSU...
@@GentlyUsedFrog, since we're correcting people, you only need one asterisk to correct a grammatical error. More than that is redundant.
@@superacidi You dont need a decent psu for this cpu. Hell it could probably run off a couple off triple As that you dad keeps buying when you assk for double As
Finally! A review of a product for the common man. Thank you tech Jesus!
uwu
yeah, for a common man with a 50$ CPU and a *RTX 2080Ti*
@@r3strt lmfao
it would be a good pick for a kid's first computer to get them started in building and learning tech for their possible future endeavors.
So much power in a small package.
That's what my gf said.
With overclock it is awesome for the price
I can't remember the last time a $50 CPU was such a good value. It's so good to have AMD back giving Intel some real competition.
Did intel ever stand a chance
I feel like an old man trying to read the text on the benchmarks
Oh me too
watch the video on a gaming PC not on your phone
Jersey Tom sorry, but I can’t put my gaming pc in my pocket.
@@TheSjuris Get pants with bigger pockets.
Ya, not sure why the top 15 are in there, should have stopped at 3600 or so and expanded the graphs
I applaud how thoroughly you test these machines, has to be hours upon hours, test after test.
he use the same benchmarks for a year, and just has a spreadsheet with all the other CPU's being benchmarked
@@for_all_those3611 way to out him lol
@@JustAverageJeff it would be stupid to do otherwise hahahaha
This CPU reminds me of the good old days. The insane gains from overclocking are legit exciting.
yay i've been waiting for this, no one else reviewed it as a cpu paired with a gpu
On super budget chips can you run 2 more tests. 1. A nas test. Throw in gigabit ethernet and every last bit of SATA ports need to be filled with ssd's. How much sustained throughput can you achieve? And 2. A pfsense/router/firewall test where you try to max out connections between 2 test computers to try to find the max users/torrents/spyware that the chip can handle. Maybe bring Wendell back to help along with linus' 32gamers 1 cpu rig.
I was considering this for a nas build, I already have the HDDs, case and psu, I just need a ssd boot drive ($20) RAM (8gb 3000 mhz for $33) and a mobo ($60). I would be nice to see testing transfer speeds through gigabit but I guess in this case the bottleneck would be the HDD?
@@AbnerG787 Any reasonably recent magnetic hard disk is easily faster than Gigabit Ethernet.
@@johnm2012 Nice, I have Barracuda 7200 rpm HDD that should be enough for a NAS build I think.
@@AbnerG787 Did you get ECC RAM? Some motherboards support it
What came of your nas build? My FM2+ media Pc needs to be retired. ( AMD video drivers on linux) Thinking of using this for nas, but its TDP is a bit high. The 240ge looks really good, but 2400g/3400g have more support options, and the 300g seems middle of the road.
Great and thorough review. Love the CPU scaling chart for CIV.
LowSpecGamer recommended cpu for budget gaming
In 1997 I was making $40-$60 a week while in high school, I would have totally purchased this to do SOME gaming until I could buy a dedicated GPU. This APU makes the difference between gaming in a couple of months versus a year or so. I wouldn't even think about buying this these days though it is awesome for the people in that kind of financial scenario. Thanks for posting.
aye gotta love GN after work.
Thank you for including discrete GPU results!
Steve another great video man.
New Budget Build, 2080Ti, + AMD Athlon 3000G, 16 GB 3000 DDR4 Ram and a B450 Mobo, for a Total of 1300 €
100% worth it
Cooler? Case? PSU? You forgot a few things in your 1300€.
@@dustinmajo9897 stock cooler and no case, leave the MB on top of the box, only power supply needed.
I've been waiting for this. Thanks for spending $50 for us, Steve, we all appreciate it.
It's amazing how close the performance is to the TR 1950X, which was at one point $1000, and also factoring in that this includes a GPU as well! Would've been interesting to see the gaming performance on older games though and what the dGPU equivalent is (from about 7 years ago)
Really cool video! Awesome option for home theater builds! Also, could be a great option for people that want to buy a computer now, and upgrade down the road!
As a person rocking with a Athlon X4 845, I appreciate this reviews quite a bit.
I haven't been part of the Graphics arms race for a while, so such bottom tier CPUs ended up being useful for the work and games I actually use without breaking the bank. I planned to do drawing and video editing with my current box, but I was very constrained on money and could not really afford the latest and greatest. Stuff like the Athlon line allowed me to get my foot in the door, and it makes me happy each time I boot the thing up.
This great information.
Thanks for posting.
Also, have you made a video comparing Laptop gaming processors?
Athlon 3000G + 2080ti, now thats a bottleneck and a half right there :D
Glad to see you still give attention to even the cheapest options out there, good work !
For anyone laughing at this, I have an Athlon 200GE tiny computer, and it is faster than a normal 4-core Phenom II for most things, while providing new features (NVMe m.2, AES-NI, etc.) and consuming way less power. They make great bedroom computer, or a little Unix box. Everything is relative. It's amazing how much you can get for so little money.
Athlon 3000G doesn't support NVME, only SATA M.2
@@rodrigofilho1996 This is very strange. On my Lenovo Tiny (M715q), NVMe slot will only have half the lanes (PCIe gen.3 x2) when using 200GE (as opposed to x4 lanes with 2200GE/2400GE). Not really a problem for me, though. I have Samsung 970PRO 512GB in there (LOL) working just fine.
I suppose it's possible AMD dedicated more PCIe lanes to graphics inside 3000G and left the NGFF lanes unconnected. _shrug_
I'm so happy you got one of these, regardless of how it does.
Thankyou for enduring MORE benchmarking monotony , although at least this one's slow enough to allow you to walk away to make coffee while testing xD
Good shit lad💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💯😎
i was really looking forward to this i love super low budget parts they're fun to play with. and for those who can't afford much a miracle.
This CPU is amazing for simple office PC's, used mostly for simple sheets and browsing. Also, media PC for the TV.
Yeeers this is what we wanted in that poll
Love the data you provide and it helps to make purchase decisions. However, is there any way you can make it readable on mobile? These charts are so tiny that no detail can be seen on my iPhone XS when watching the video. Do we really need the top of the data on this chart to get the point or can you just enlarge and show the bottom half?
Steve can we get a video of you head bagging to Black Metal or Crab Core one day?
Finally somebody has the balls to ask.
Please, Steve. We need it.
With a jacked German dude yelling something about dragons.
Brad Haines a type of EDM ( Electronic Dance Music)
Brad Haines a lot of times the names that sub genres under EDM don’t have anything to do with the style of song itself
For example
Synth wave isn’t made using a wave of synths or even with synths. It’s just a name that everyone universally agreed on.
@@bradhaines3142 Crabcore is a move some metalcore guitarists did live and in music videos back in the late 2000's where they bent down really low with their guitar while playing breakdowns (resembling a crab) and headbanged. It's not so much a genre but a joke. Attack Attack, Asking Alexandria, I See Stars, and Abandon All Ships notably used the move. Crabcore is closely associated with bands that incorporated synth keyboards or or EDM/techno bits in their songs.
Might use this for my arcade pc build
did you move your set lights around? i thought i saw more steve shadows.
Now I want a comparison between the iGPU with overclocks for all the zen APUs, Intel and maybe even one of the older AMD APUs.
3400G, 3000G, 2200G, 200GE, A12 9800 (which exists on AM4 w/ DDR4 for a nice comparison) etc.. :)
Athlon 3000G the new 10980xe killer!
Been planning an itx HTPC build soon with one of these APU's. They seem perfect for the task.
would love to see one of these small ones with like 10 NAVI CU's, 3 is just ridiculous but slap more CU's in and you have a very capable machine for us people that love older games and are able to run at 1080p
In case you don't know there are the 2200g (4C/4T/8CU) and 2400g (4C/8T/11CU) and their refresh 3200g and 3400g. The 2000 series tend to be sold out these days but can sometimes be had with a good discount or used.
@@wawagabriel they are with VEGA not NAVI ;-) still waiting for the 7nm APU to pop up... maybe next year we will get em with some NAVI inside, just a shame they are so behind
@@LiLBitsDK the rumour for the 4000 series apus is they're 7nm with a hybrid vega gpu portion using part of the display engine from navi, but in terms of performance it's still ultimately vega.
@@kynikostashasch2218 yeah time will tell
It would interesting to see a complete budget build, meant for lighter stuff like media player, or something simple like that. Like was mentioned in the video, it isn't just about people not having the money to spend, but for simple solutions, there might be more price worthy solutions that makes a bigger budget a waste of money.
A seasonal ultrabudget build could fit that niche, just as a seasonal "latest intel gen gaming build" would do for it's purpose.
This helps A LOT! I might actually build 3 different PCs with this CPU for my 3 Daughters as a start PC with a DGPU. Thank you, GN!!!! (ALSO... We need a Vid with you OCing this thing to it's max on both Liquid cooling and LN. Especially LN. Why? Because why not? :D )
Probably the better alternative would be a r3 1200, where I'm located at it's 47euros for a brand new 1200 and it's basically the same performance as the 3000G, maybe even better in some cases because of 4 cores/4 threads.
I am needing a new build for my NAS currently have a 2500t need a lower wattage for idle and load, however I have seen this has a 35w tdp but would like to know the proper power draw without the dgpu at the wall, if it's no better what would give a similar performance than my 2500t for very minimal running cost as I will have 12 x 3.5" hdd running in the end. Keep up the great work! oh and ln2 that cpu aswell 😁 👍
Am considering this maybe even using with the onboard graphics just as a retro console emulator / for MAME
That $50 CPU is what actually casual people need. Just some Chrome, no need for additional GPU, power efficient. Not everyone games, Not everyone overclock. So these chips with Integrated GPUs are better for small time casual, office ( non heavy, non time bound ) productivity. Probably the reason I still have a i3 - 3210 and haven't upgraded it till date. It still works fine for home use, small spreadsheet tasks and so on.
Laptop
@@jussikankinen9409 Low-end laptops all have 1.6 GHz CPU, Getting a PC with it gets you 3GHz
You don't know what "causal" people need. XD
@@XsaviXander Hmm hmm... Casual people need a Shintel i9 on 10nm+++++ architecture to watch Netflix.
I have an i3-2100 and am upgrading to the 3000G because it's 5 times better, literally. I could've upgraded the 2100 system with more ram and a cheap ssd but either way it's very much on its last leg and I can get years out of a 3000G with my "workflow".
Hey guys what are the motherboard choices on this like? Do I need 3000 series ready motherboards for the athlon 3000g? Or can i just go for any b450 board since its a zen+ chip?
I know that it's not really your thing, but would you consider doing a video or article on the best apu for a HTPC build ?
Can someone point me in a good direction for learning overclocking or good settings for this apu?
A small correction: this is not Zen+. This is just Zen (2000 series APU core).
I.e. a cut down 2200g!
When's this supposed to be available in the US? I've been checking daily for weeks and there's nothing. It's been readily available in Europe, though.
Would love to know if this can get you a multimedia machine that can push video output from the iGPU at 2060p/60Hz. Will have to investigate :)
Would be nice to see it in esport games. Seems like it could do a job for a budget system
you saved Christmas. Dye that beard grey! Please. = )
This thing performs way above expectation honesly.
Perfect for people who play mostly older games, free to plays and the low end on steam.
I mean, if you can't splash for a upgrade to a 1600 you won't be buying tripple a games at launch anyway with their insane cost structure nowdays.
Good stuff.
Low end CPU market is very interesting now. It can do so much compared to just a couple years ago.
I do remember for about $7, I bought an AMD Phenom x4 9650 CPU which is 4 core and 4 thread, although much older, from early 2008. Still works well though for light gaming.
I wish he would take more pauses between semtences otherwise great video. Might use this CPU for a Plex NAS
I'm really interested if this CPU can play a video on CZcams with 1080p and 60fps.
If the CPU can do that, it will be interesting for a silent mini PC hanging on the TV.
Gosh I want to see this thing under LN2
Would this be an adequate start for a low cost HTPC?
When a cpu is cheaper than two Noctua fans😂👌
Yeah and it’s not like you can innovate Fan technology. You can upgrade parts on the fan, and redesign aspects of it. But when it comes down to it, a fan is a fan is a fan. As long as it pushes air it’s doing it’s job.
@@prescott231233 No, there's definitely room for innovation in fans.
Just look at all the fine tuning that's been done so far to minimize noise, make the noise a much less irritating frequency, increase efficiency, optimizing for pressure or airflow, and guiding the vortex of air into a straighter line so that it can maintain pressure at greater distances.
They're easy to underestimate, but the amount of engineering that goes into some of them is very impressive.
@@prescott231233 There's a lot more to fans than that. That's like saying jet engines can't be innovated because as long as they compress air & fuel to generate high pressure gas to drive a big fan on the front, they're doing their job. lol. Noctua fans genuinely do innovate. They cost a lot too, and probably aren't worth it to most people, but to claim they they don't actually innovate is bullshit. They don't innovate in pricing, sure, but in technology they do.
@@Mythricia1988 I'd like to meet a person who sais noctua is noth worth the money when they hold one of there 120mm flagship fans in there hand. Everything from unboxing, over the weight and feel of the fan in hand, to the noise and performance in a system (no matter if as rad or case fan) just screams quality.
I usually build with be quiet sw3 for black builds or noiseblocker eloop for white builds, and while they are nice, they dont reach the feel of noctua. Even have some gentle typhoons here, that still work great, but not still at noctua level :)
@@Caffeine.And.Carvings Oh I'm a fan myself (pun intended), I have 8 Noctua fans in my current O-11 Air build. 3x NF-A12 in top radiator, 3x NF-A12 in side rad, and 2x NF-S12A's in the front. I love these things. But I do think it's fair to say that for the average gamer, they actually don't care at all - it's way more money for a quality increase that is too small to matter for them.
I would love to see how this stacks up against 15w or 45w mobile processors. Anybody have a source where I can find benchmarks for that?
Currently thinking about getting either a Pentium G5420 or a 3000G. They cost exactly the same here and the motherboards i've considered is available for both at similar prices. I need a complete build that looks nice or atleast decent, as cheap as possible, as it's just for casemods for "show", basically. Been waiting for 3000G reviews, as going with Ryzen gives me a chance to work with the AM4 platform for the first time and upgradeability. Gonna pair it with 16GB ram and possibly an RX 570/580, so being able to upgrade to something like a Ryzen 2600 later on, could make it quite a decent budget machine for productivity and maybe a bit of gaming. Thank you, Tech Jesus!
Funny thing about this athlon and 200GE, you can play WoW Classic on classic L3 settings on 60-100FPS with just this cpu :)
Cool video
Is there a 3000G under LN2 with the iGPU OC to see how far it can be pushed without a dGPU? (With super fast RAM)
I'll just point out that at scale every $1 is important. Say you need to build 500 computers for a school lab...
You'd order 500 education edition 2-in-1s with a mobile Pentium and 4gb ram if you're lucky, or an atom processor and 2gb ram if you're not.
@@cm01 My school got these HP Probook x360 11 G2 EE 2-in-1 laptops. Intel Core i5-7y54, Intel HD 615 graphics, 128 GB Sata M.2 SSD, and8GBs of RAM. And that's for the whole Middle school _and_ high school. I think they lease from HP for reduced price? IDK. Sadly, they _are_ passively cooled, so thermal throttle land.
My school has polaris gpu
that igpu in ln2 would make miracles
You guys really did it haha
I'm working on an ultra budget HTPC and was going to go with the old 2200G, but tbh this seems more than enough. I'm still using an AMD Turion 64 (from 2008) with a Radeon 5450 (think it's ATI branded) for H.264 decoding and 4GB of mixed sticks DDR3 on Windows 10. It's for Kodi (not the dodgy version of Kodi, but the proper one for my home library). Not sure what mobo to go with, though perhaps the A320 might work? PS: pls LN2 Steve
So Dali is a Zen+ core manufactured on 14 nm? Because the CPUID is that of Picasso in software like CPU-Z, HWiNFO64 and AIDA64.
Love u bruh
How would this CPU do in a Plex server? Not transcoding and no video card on the Plex server.All media will be on the local, mostly wired, network.
Thanks Steve
If these are reasonably available at the end of this next year this may be the CPU I opt for when I build my folks their next rig. Pair this with 8 gigs of DDR4 and a cheap SSD and I should be able to give them a nice uplift in performance over their current setup (an e1200 with one 4 gig DDR3 RAM stick.) I'd even stick with the integrated GPU, since the most extreme gameplay they do is hidden object games.
Is it just me or this guy is way more technical than the other similar channels?
I’m wondering how this cpu would do as a pfsense router, or as a FreeNAS system
A nice follow-up video to watch after watching Low-Spec Gamer's review.
I built my 5 year old a Minecraft rig with this. With its IGP, it’s perfect for that and his kindergarten schoolwork this year.
What would be a good but cheap motherboard pairing for this?
How is this CPU compared to Ryzen 3 1200 stock/oc ?
Ln2 5ghz? Stupid but would be cool to see how much more performance can be squeezed from 2 cores.
I have one (on an ASRock ITX motherboard, in a small Silverstone case), and I just LOVE this thing.
It works perfect in simple, light, casual computer usage. In fact, it works as smoothly as my R7 3700X/RTX 2060 Super in all that; no stuttering, no lag, not anything whatsoever.
I love this thing. :))))
Would the 3000g be a good CPU to use in a NAS? Thank you
I'mma get one for email and remote desktop, and to play around with overclocking it... If I can ever get my hands on one
any advice on graphics cards for this CPU? Obviously the 2080Ti is a bit of an overkill, you won't be able utilise it's power, so what would be the sweet spot in term of graphics card?
Just for fun, could this handle being a dedicated stream pc? 720p60fps?
This is pretty great for ultra-budget PC's. AVX and that iGpu are a great addition for the money.
I think this kind of CPU's are great for beginners. Let's say you don't know pretty much anything about debugging and etc (so you are scared to go the used parts route) and you conclude that you'll buy new parts but you are on a tight budget. What makes it so good is that you will probably be able to swap it for a Ryzen 5 2600 on the cheap side once you build enough confidence/knowledge. Pair it with a RX570/GTX1050Ti or something like that and you just got a cheap gaming rig that will play a lot of games on FullHD. Of course, no amazing FPS or any Ultra settings but hey! You will be able to play decent games, for a very low investment.
Great review!👍
I do think it is weird that it's Zen+ on 14nm because Zen+ is traditionally 12nm and Zen is 14nm.
It being Zen+ was a common piece of misinformation at launch, it's Zen.
I'd missed to see a reasonably priced graphics cards coupled with that processor.
It becomes almost a synthetic benchmark in my view with a 2080ti.
How would a lower end graphics card bottleneck the higher cpus and how would it affect the fps on the lower end cpu.
I wish you also compared the cpu with different tiers of gpu to get an idea on how cheap of a gpu you can pair it up with before making the build not cpu bound anymore
When Robert Hallock was on PCWorld, he said it was Zen and not Zen+.
On an APU like this, I would personnally overclock only the iGPU so it has the cleanest power possible available to overclock it, unless the iGPU is good enough that it becomes memory limited of course.