True Lies (1994) 4K UHD Blu-ray Review!
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- True lies is now in 4K, here’s my review.
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That’s all the space you have left for your movie shelf?
@@DevilFan669 no, I have plenty of room.
@@MovieGuy365oh okay 👌 and that’s good 👍🏻 at least you do mine shelf is almost getting full and I need more space for my 4K movies man lol 😂
Can you please link your little movie stand in the description?
I feel this review is pretty spot on. This transfer is ok. Not the best, not the worst. The surround is a highlight as with all three of the Cameron disks. It was also a true blast to go back and watch has it has been many many years since I last viewed this movie. Like most of you I was patiently waiting for a 4k. Well now we have it.
I’ve never owned the dvd so I can’t compare the two but I thought the 4K picture looked great!
I'll be picking this & The Abyss. They don't have to be perfect. Just anamorphic. Why they originally released those two titles & The Rock that way I never understood. Criterion did eventually release an anamorphic version of The Rock which looked wonderful for DVD.
2:35 wait…
bill paxton is in true lies??
i need this now!
He is and he’s great!
And it’s one of his greatest performances, you need to see this immediately
Has some amazing scenes. He's great as usual!
True Lies and The Abyss arrived yesterday while my copy of Aliens is delayed. Looking forward to checking both out on the weekend. A consistent and natural 4K transfer would have been great, but I will be happy as long as it looks better than the DVD release and that Spanish bootleg Blu-ray...
I almost forgot how amazing those action sequences were, almost all practical and jaw dropping! especially that fighter jet sequence at the end. I thought the 4k was amazing! HDR made up for the dnr for me
Those screenshots look great to me, Adam! I should note: I saw True Lies in a theater in 1994 and that shot of Tom Arnold's face looked pasty even on film. I think the makeup artist caked too much makeup on him (to make him look younger than he was).
Thank you, Adam, for saving me the $ of a new release. I will buy this one down the road...Cameron, are you listening?
New sub I like your no nonsense approach to reviews!
It dose make me wonder about a comparison to the Spanish gray market Blu Ray?
I love it!
Although, I never understood judging 4K movies so harshly. I mean, the ideal way to watch a movie is in a theater.
most trusted name in 4k reviews
thanks Adam
No, that's Jess Rauseo
I wish they had a up to date commentary with the stars and director.
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Great review as always, Adam. Thank you. I'm not very nitpick-y when it comes to films so unless the film's transfer is a total travesty (which irlt seems it isn't), then that's another to add to the wishlist.
Titanic, Avatar 2, Avatar, Aliens, Abyss > true lies
Thanks Adam. Appreciate the review. Sadly, I don’t have much of a choice. I don’t have the DVD. I haven’t seen the film in years and waited for it. Looks like I’m getting it anyway.
I had the laserdisc and that was better for sound. As for picture I know i wasn't spotting smoothed out images like this 4k.
Okay I truly love the Dolby Atmos sound that take your breath away with massive audio now the picture.....my issue is I clearly see the stuntman's face in every action scene 😮 we all know Arnold doesn't do the stunts in the movie but Dam 😢 other then that it's still the best way to watch this classic action adventure
I'm getting this for the movie itself, but it really is shameful that they deliberately do things that are objectively in the way of making the product as good as can be. It's a bit like auto-tune for music - it doesn't add anything good or useful, it's entirely destructive IMO. I can live with some BS for movies, but modern music is like cancer to my ears.
Well it never got released on Blu ray at all . I think it looks great . Sure not perfect . The abyss and aliens on the other hand look fabulous .
A fair and helpful review, thanks Adam.
People slated Fatal Attraction, I don’t understand how they can be lenient to this one.
I suppose because the previously available option is a massively outdated DVD (yuck) and even though this transfer is flawed, it is still better than that and still an improvement. That was not the case with Fatal Attraction, which did have Blu Ray releases, and the 4K release was (in many people's opinion) NOT an improvement.
@@SamLovesMovies25 fair, I can see it from that point of view. I just hope that enough people don’t blindly accept releases like this and have them becoming the new norm.
Thanks for the content, Adam.
I'm getting this studio release but I also have the spanish 1080p hd region free bluray to fall back on with film grain and no smeary scenes. Does the bluray in this studio release also have the smeary scenes?
It’s the same master, so yes. It’s just not as smeary looking due to the lower fidelity by comparison, but it still looks comparable to what we saw with the Ultimate Hunter Edition of Predator in several moments.
C's generous.
Anything is better than the DVD
That’s true bro 😎 lol 😂 facts
Ha ha exactly.
I disagree. Play a DVD in a modern 4k player and they look great. It must be the up scaling or something But some dvds look as good as blu ray. I really dont remember them looking that good. I recently watched Hell on Wheels on DVD and I had to check to see if they put the wrong disk in the package. I was blown away.
I have that dvd. It is super weak!
If you enjoy it, Sure
Shame that the picture quality is divisive, out of the three this the one I was looking forward to the most. Glad to hear that the sound mix was good.
More interested in how it compares to the old D-theater DVHS tape then the DVD
This one is by far the worst looking of the new Cameron 4ks. Very waxy looking. I watch the entire film with my wife last night and really enjoyed the film itself. I watched it without over analyzing it. Then after I watched it I put the movie back in and yes indeed it looks waxy when you are constantly looking for it. Like others are saying before it blows the DVD out of the water. If you watch it looking for the waxiness you aren't going to enjoy it. But if you watch it because you love the movie you are going to enjoy it. That is how you should go into this. I do respect you Adam for calling out the waxiness and giving this a C. That's not easy to do.
Should've been at least a c-
he got his point accross that the transfer was done without any proper care. The Dolby Atmos is good. That alone is worth the upgrade over the DVD. @@davidgolden1726
@@davidgolden1726 still worlds better than the DVD. The Dolby Atmos is excellent. You don’t get that on dvd.
It’s better than the dvd and laserdisc. Also way better than the bootleg. Twin flicks knows some one worked on the transfer and they explain why it looks the way it does. Either way it’s James Cameron, people were gonna complain regardless
You just believe anything anyone says without proof? Either he is lying to keep the free discs coming or his "friend" has zero knowledge of how movies are restored. Twin Flicks is a shill. His earning depends on free discs sent to him from the studios. The texts were filled with typos. No professional technician working in an industry would write like that. Also, it's just text. There's zero proof anyone told him this. he could just be making it all up to defend his misinformation. Warped and torn negative can be easily digitally corrected and has been on films decades older than True Lies. None of them required this much excessive de-graining, smudging of faces or over-sharpening to "save" the film. A highly successful film like True Lies starring Schwarzenneger, directed by Cameron, produced by 20th century Fox would never be "neglected" and neither do Zeiss Super Speed lenses produce an ugly looking negative. He's talking from his behind and leading people astray to boost the sales of these revisionist 4K discs and his channel. Unfortunately, even Jeff Rauseo is now asking us to stop complaining and just suck it up, whatever garbage is thrown at us by these studios. Movie collecting is a costly hobby. No one should cheaply-made transfers because it encourages the studios to produce their future discs cheaply and destroy the quality of the movie.
I just rewatched True Lies after about 15 years and it's still a really fun movie. HOWEVER! Something I never noticed until now is how poor the editing was on this which is strange considering it was a Cameron movie. The amount of times you can clearly see the face of the stunt doubles instead of the actor was astonishing! Infact I don't remember a movie with this happening as much as it does in True Lies.
If you think the screenshots look bad, wait until you see it in motion. It gets so much worse. Dolby Vision and Atmos saved it for me.
Its not even Dolby Vision, its just SDR and static metadata in a DV container so your playback device flags it as DV.
Unfortunately Nick above is right. It’s not even Dolby Vision, it just flips the switch to tell your player it is.
I just watched it last night on my 65 oled, and movie looks very good in 4k. I dont get those guys crying like a little babies with their stupid comments like: this is unwatchable, i had to turn HDR on my player or tv to get correct colors, dvd has better PQ etc etc etc.. it's just a movie guys, and there are plenty of movies in 4k that are not perfect. Go take your VHS and DVD copies and enjoy them.
I was expecting you to roast this release.
You don't bite the hand that feeds ya
Just wait for his Aliens review lol. I have a feeling he will have some really strong thoughts lol.
I’ll stick with the old Spanish blu-ray until the 4k inevitably goes on sale for $12
same…
This is slightly better than T2 Judgement day
What's the picture quality like on the blu ray?
Just watch the movie who gives a fuk
@@tdg223The people who pay the money. They want quality. If you don't care, watch the VHS.
@@tdg223 we do. Those who spend their hard-earned cash for discs $25 a pop, want a proper restoration that does not ruin the image like it was done here. We don't want low resolution grainless, ultra smooth and artificially sharpened images with AI processing. If that's what you want, go to streaming.
Be thankful this was even restored and obviously looks better than dvd and blu ray, this shouldnt even be in question@@utthapa
@@tdg223 dude be polite. its not a request. its an expectation. or dont comment at all. have a nice day.
a C grade from Adam means the picture quality is abysmal
An exquisitely crafted movie.
Thanks Adam 👍🏻 😊
Adam there was barely any bass in the mix please kindly explain this
When have you gotten a Disney with great Dolby Audio? Or a Theatrical mix 😂
@@UnicornRyder04 true but it boggles my mind why no review is mentioning this
I thought the DTS-HD 5.1 on the Spain blu-ray sounded a bit better.
It does because the bass presence is more pronounced and the mix is overall more aggressive. I love overhead effects but the punchiness of the main channels should always be the number 1 priority.
@@hunterf.7345 I wonder what the source of it is, being an unofficial bootleg and all
Too much hate for these 3 Cameron releases……I’m just glad to have them on physical 4K to be able to enjoy at home.
Its not really hate, its just highlighting the lazy treatment given to these classics. They deserved so much better.
Would it be better to watch the included blu ray then ?
It's from the same master as the 4k and looks even more bland because of reduction from 4K to 1080p.
C for Cameron... appropriate!
My copy is coming tomorrow
I haven't seen the transfer, and as much as i like the film im a purist and really spend my money on definitive versions at this stage of collection. Serng any film the way it was shot and theatrically intended to look is the real gem for 4k.if i look for example at the latest sony Columbia collection, those films strike such a beautiful balance between visual and sound upgrades and respect for the original photography. When that works it is a remarkable experience.that is both nostalgic and brings you closer to the film than ever before.so im simply left pondering the question, why mr Cameron? Whats the point? Good,bad or mixed,why would anybody want a 90s film not to look like a 90s film? Same would apply to cinema of any era.we want to see what was really there in all its splendor. Not something reimagined by AI or reinvented.just a very strange choice for something that is ultimately designed to celebrate the beauty of the history of cinema
I love this film. I watched it on a calibrated 83” Sony A90j and thought it looked very good overall. Yes, it is too processed but way better than the Internet folks claim. The Atmos track is terrific. I have the DVD, the laser disc and even the D Theater, the 4K is by far the best viewing experience.
Aliens is by far the best one
One of the main reasons physical media collectors are buying discs because we want an "archival" copy in the best quality possible. If I wanted a smeary mess I'd just watch the old DVD.
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Get the italian bluray
Pretty sure this is better than the DVD you want to watch..
exactly, these releases are only doing well because of how big these titles are and how they don't have a blu-ray. If any boutique label like Arrow had done this on one of their releases they would have been laughed off of the planet and that release gone unpurchased. If any studio or label actually fully switched all of their 4k releases to using the AI instead of the proper restorations that they currently do then they would literally go out of business because the collectors that prop up the physical media industry would not touch those releases.
So it's a dangerous slippery slope. Because the core group that purchases the majority of 4ks won't stand for lazy AI instead of proper rescans and remasters. Could you actually imagine if Arrow or Shout Factory tried to pull this?
@@cappachino78 sure it does. people are being extremely lenient on this and The Abyss precisely because it is being compared to and is an upgrade from a literal DVD. Anything would look better. Doesn't mean supporting a product that uses AI Upscaling instead of a remaster, which could lead to terrible releases down the line, is a good thing.
Even if the transfer is problematic, I'm sure it is still a MASSIVE improvement over the DVD (yuck). That was NOT the case with Terminator 2, for example, which did have Blu Ray releases and the 4K was NOT an improvement over the Blu Rays.
True Lies has a Spanish blu ray
@@TotalMeltdown2I know, but it was still not an actual official release
@@SamLovesMovies25 It's still looks more natural with the film grain intact.
@@SamLovesMovies25 it is legal in Spain and is sold on a lot of Amazon websites.
@@utthapaIt is a legally licensed Blu Ray? I thought it was unlicensed/unofficial
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The image on this is not an issue on my 120” 2:39:1 screen. On an OLED i can see why it’s too perfect
"Too perfect" is a charitable description.
Yeah, this was a disappointment. Ultimately I want a 4K transfer to be as close as possible to watching the movie when it appeared in theatres. Remember, Han shot first. Which is also why I don't like Dolby Atmos for movies that didn't originally have Dolby Atmos. The audio was designed without Dolby Atmos in mind, and the 4K transfer should stick to the original sound mix. To me, it's the equivalent of colorizing a classic black and white movie. Seriously, no matter how good a job is done, do you really want to see Citizen Kane, Casablanca or The Maltese Falcon in color?
I can't support the AI/DNR practices. I got a VHS widescreen copy and it looks great on my CRT. Looks like a movie and not a videogame cutscene. A lot of reviews keep saying well these are the best we're going to get so you should get them but I don't buy into that. If people support bad practices then they'll keep happening. Vote with your wallet is what I say but that's just my opinion.
If you're happy with the 4k that's fine but I can't stand the way it looks.
Terminator 4k was announced today and if Cameron is involved it's going to look horrible too.
The movie still looks miles better than the DVD. Also your VHS. Also your VHS has HORRIBLE audio quality. It has nothing remotely close to the solid Dolby Atmos that the 4k has.
@@ScruffyWarlord luckily I don't care about the audio. Sounds fine on my TV speakers and that's all that matters to me.
There is no controversy
it doesn't look like film
period
I don't care what anyone says. I can't wait to buy the 4K Blu-rays of True Lies, Aliens and The Abyss. As far as I'm concerned, True Lies is the greatest action comedy of the 1990s
I would find this fatiguing to watch... the harsh edge enhancement would be more bearable for me with a sci-fi movie like Aliens or Abyss. Why on earth Cameron couldn't have dialled this back by 50%... everything would still appear "refreshed" and not so artificial.
I heard they didn’t scan the negative, they just upscaled a file that was supposed to be used for blu ray years ago
I heard they just scanned the dvd. Heard things
@@ec4146 You’re fired
People hear all kind of things that are not true.
@@joewhip9303 how do you know it’s untrue, are you one of Jim Cameron’s ex-wives?
@@alexdas2000 no but you didn’t name any names. Heard from who? Talk is cheap.
Your reviews are spot on 👍. I was very disappointed with True Lies restoration 😔. It felt like Cameron, and whatever auto correction technology he was using, was trying to correct the actors looks making them appear younger and the overall appearance suffered. It doesn't look natural. I think a C- was a little too generous on the picture grade , I would've given it a Solid D Grade on the picture. Probably one of the worst picture restorations I've ever seen (and yes I did see from beginning to end). I'm not interested in Aliens 4k because I'm already satisfied with my Alien Anthology collection and don't need to buy Aliens again, but was impressed with The Abyss Special Edition looking phenomenal (I left a comment on your Abyss review).
Rub-a-dub-dub
Scrub-scrub-scrub!
How does this compare to Superman 1978. I think Superman looks terrible
This makes Superman look filmic
@@LILGHETTI so I'm going to hate true lies 4k? Some people didn't like kick ass 2 in 4k and I thought it looked great, even better than part one
You think Superman looks "terrible" because it's foggy. That's not a fault of the transfer, it's the diffusion filter cinematographer Geoffrey Unsworth put on the lens to shoot the film, gives the film its misty fantasy haze, as Richard Donner said, "slightly untouchable".
The original camera negative was in such terrible condition that it is incredible that they were even able to save the film. Blame the studio for not protecting its assets, not Jim.
An unsubstantiated statement by one random CZcamsr, very likely untrue
Nothing but a lie. Reliance Mediaworks restored True Lies to pristine condition in 2012 from the original negative. This remaster was supposed to be released on Blu-ray, but Cameron never approved it. It was, however, released on Disney Plus in the UK and AXN in India in an open matte format. Also, it's impossible that a studio as big as 20th Century Fox would ignore the film negative of a James Cameron blockbuster starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. ALL negatives are regularly checked, dusted and stored in climate-controlled vaults. Twin Flicks is sharing unsubstantiated and unverifiable BS like a shill to ensure that studios keep sending him free 4K discs. Unfortunately, he's leading his subscribers astray and encouraging poor 4K disc releases in the future.
This transfer itself is a true lie.
Give it an A we been waiting for this movie 🎉🎉🎉
Thought it looked and sounded great! No complaints here with any of the 3 Cameron releases. I just watch my collection and enjoy the movies. I don’t obsess and nitpick while I watch. That would defeat the purpose of relaxing and watching a movie.
I think we are over analyzing all these 4K movies, how many people watching these reviews are worried about a slight blur in the background or a smooth spot on somebodies cheek, is this 4K better than the DVD -- "YES". If you are happy with the DVD then good for you, if you want the 4K then good for you. While these reviews help point out little imperfections to help consumers decide to buy or not, I think all these very small issues are over-rated. If you really like a movie you will buy the 4K -------- just enjoy watching your movies.
You're just asking us, who care about film restorations to shut up and accept whatever poor restorations the big studios throw at us? 4K is a hobbyist format. It's currently the absolute pinnacle of physical media. Movies shot on film deserve archival-level restoration where the finest details should be visible and the film grain should be kept intact. We don't need or want these cheap AI waxy jobs that destroy fine detail, clarity and replace them with smudged faces and sharpness-boosted images. if you like it, fine, but know this, by asking genuine criticism to be stifled, you're encouraging big studios to create more of such cheap AI-made releases as opposed to proper restorations. This will have a domino effect on all future 4K disc releases and definitely on streaming. Studios will realise they can just upscale low resolution masters to 4K or run it through an Ai software and call it a day. You are paying good money for these releases. You should demand well-made products. If you just want to watch the movie and don't care about restoration quality, then just watch the streaming version.
@@utthapa I understand your point, so don't buy the movie, save your money and watch the stream.
The big companies will lift their game if they do not sell movies but if other people who are not so concerned about every little imperfection and they want to buy the movie then good for them.
The big companies are making sub-par restorations because people are buying them so why should they stop.
I never brought a 4K copy ... did you ?
Sham about the bad language and violence in this film.
Would have been better as a 12 rated
(People are so gangster here🤣)
Okay mom
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Its better than dvd so everyone shut the F up and stop looking for so many details of transfer, instead watch and enjoy the movie like we did in the 90s, DUHH
Yes. Blindly consume. Don't question. Consume. 😆
You entitled lot will be the death of physical media. You are creating a dangerous precedent by praising studios who produce such terrible remasters; thereby encouraging them to produce more cheaply-made, revisionist content that destroys the original look and feel of movies shot on film and looks worse than modern digitally shot movies.
I think it looks fantastic I don’t like any grain in any movie
But grain IS detail, that's just how traditional film stock worked! I do not like having that beautiful fine detail being scrubbed away and smoothed over. But to each his own of course.
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You have an option to use noise reduction on your TV. for films that have grain. But conversely, those of us who care about the look of film, won't have the option to bring back detail which has already been scrubbed away.
Shame on you for giving this transfer video a C grade. You have surrendered to the grain police squad.
And you are a shill who has surrendered to whims of the big corporations who produce cheap looking revisionist film masters that destroys the look of film.
Sounds like you're doing a lot of NIC PICKING...
First off, it's not a new release...
Every movie getting a 4K upgrade, is a HIT OR MISS PERIOD...
Deal with it...
People who spend their hard-earned cash for these $25 a pop discs and far more expensive 4K home theatre, deserve proper archival-level film restorations, not this AI and wax-polished turd. They will voice their concerns. Deal with it!
I hate grain. It is actually a flaw in film and we should welcome clean videos. How does grain make anything better?
But how is the grain removed. It fundamentally changes the look of the film because the grain is a part of the physical film element.
Grain IS detail on film. Scrubbing away film grain leads to loss of vital fine detail. Film grain, unlike noise, adds texture to an image. It is these grains that are produced from the photochemical process and unify the image. If you don't like grain, just watch the compressed, grain-removed streaming versions. 4K UHD is an enthusiast format for people who have knowledge of film restoration and care about preserving fine detail on celluloid-shot movies.
Again, as I said to another commenter, you have an option to use noise reduction on your TV. for films that have grain. But conversely, those of us who care about the look of film, won't have the option to bring back detail which has already been scrubbed away.
The picture grading is much higher than a C. I enjoyed the movie immensely. It's too bad you let the imperfect transfer ruin it for you which kept you from enjoying it. That's why I rarely watch your channel. You are a critic, not a movie enthusiast. Pretty boring content then, still boring now. Waste of time.
You clearly don't understand the focus of this channel. The target is the quality of the film/movie transfer to 4k as well as the quality of the audio mix on the physical copy. It can be a great movie with a less than optimal transfer. This often can be (but not exclusive to) a result of digital noise reduction which can take away detail and also has the potential to make an image appear unnatural or waxy looking.
@eliwalsh1425 I watched his channel and others so don't dictate to me that I don't understand the content of his channel. I do, that's why I haven't watched for months until now. No change. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. Spare me the technical details. I watch the movie to enjoy it, not to find flaws or imperfections.
C is being generous. Whether you like the movie or not is completely irrelevant to the picture quality. People such as yourself are giving it a free pass because its a film you like. Adams job as a movie reviewer is to highlight the problems with this transfer and objectively rate them compared to the audio/visual quality of other films, which he has done. If you want to be a mindless consumer why bother watching reviews at all, just stick to the press releases and consume any old trash.
@nick1635 I disagree. The DVD picture is C, the DVD is a C- or D. The 4K way better than that. I dare you to find a better picture elsewhere or wait for a remastered to your liking.
@@m.dorado6966 any other 4k blu ray looks better lmao. As long it wasn't a film directed by James Cameron.
Ordered all three Cameron films. Pleased with "The Abyss," and "Aliens," (some reviewers were not only too negative, they had the chance to go full blown-CZcams-narcissistic, with their "look at me, I'm the end-all and be-all of physical media blah, blah, blah") We couldn't be living in better times for physical media. From outstanding flat-screens to Atmos sound, good grief, these nit-pickers should should take in a local Happy Hour, before they grab a camera and mic and drone on, as if they were expert witnesses at a James Cameron trial on 4K perfection. The number of excellent films we've purchased in 2023 and now in 2024 has been outstanding. So, thanks for not going completely negative, and thanks for the screen shots. We did a blind-buy pre-order, and have not been, in the least, disappointed. We can always count on your brevity, efficiency and balance. Keep up the good work!
With due respect madam, 4K UHD is the highest quality video format on physical media. Many who collect 4K discs care about film restorations. These discs aren't cheap. We expect a quality remaster and restoration that is archival-quality and not something that's run through an AI software and artificially sharpened and boosted. The studios have to maintain a standard of quality for these releases and it's absolutely necessary to call them out and criticise them if they put out shoddy remasters like this. "It's fine. I enjoyed the movie" is not the standard and should not be the standard of 4K discs. That's for streaming. Supporting releases like these sends a clear message to the studios that they can produce such poor remasters and people will still give them money. In the future, they won't care enough to put good effort in restorations and would just put the movie through an AI software, remove all the original grain and fine detail and add artificial sharpening and fake detail, and call it a day. Big studios are not above reproach and we are not their slaves or owe them anything. Criticism helps maintain quality of products. When criticism dies and people become complacent, the quality of product falls because it is more profitable to make cheap products than it is to make higher quality ones.
@@utthapaYour ranting changes nothing. And it sure didn't put a dent in sales. Here's the problem; the "projected" image we see in the theater is produced by a projector where the throw distance creates a much duller picture than a home theater flat-screen, where pixels give us the image, not a projector. These are two entirely different viewing experiences. Secondly, newer films are made with far more advanced technologies at their disposal. We enjoy older films, and have hundreds in our collection. Many of those Blu-rays and 4Ks were produced with the grain intact. That's fine. But climb down off your high horse. James Cameron oversaw the remastering of his films. It's his time and money being invested, not yours. We have a smart TV and a Sony 4K player, and one of the settings is "Cinema." However, the use of the setting gives our films a softer, almost sepia filtered look, we prefer not to use. We attend movie theaters often, but we don't expect, nor do we get the exact experience at home, than we do at the local cineplex. Often times our home flat-screen experience is brighter and the sound more impactful. IMAX is a totally different experience, which we advantage ourselves quite often. But anyone thinking that the home flat-screen experience, in any way, duplicates the movie theater experience should have their eyes examined. These are two entirely different viewing experiences. We also have an outdoor projection system, which comes much closer to the movie theater experience, because we are now talking more identical, or close to identical, projection systems. A number of years ago Warner Brothers turned out a waxy 4K version of "Casablanca," with no grain. It was replaced, with a new remaster that retained the film grain, because of the outcry of die-hard fans. And while James Cameron's "The Abyss," "Aliens," and "True Lies" are fine entertainments ... they aren't "Casablanca." There are 4Ks we've gotten rid of, because of the poor quality. But those remain a minority of rejects amidst hundreds that are superb. But don't suppose for a minute that your rant contributed much, if anything, to the purchasing power of thousands of collectors, who are more than capable of making their own assessment, without your axe to grind.