2JZ Tuesday: The difference between 2jz GE and GTE engine block (and similarities!)

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  • čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
  • Finally! After a long time stabilizing my newborn, Here it is the video about the difference between 2JZ GE (NA) and GTE engine block, and also the similarities about these 2. (it may be easy to knew about the similarities but I would like to point them out for those who don't know yet =)
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  • @cheapkailaujing
    @cheapkailaujing  Před 4 lety +2

    hi guys! Here it is the difference for the GE and GTE Engine block, but I got another video which is full analysis difference between GE and GTE Cylinder head: czcams.com/video/SS4elzfDzdA/video.html enjoy

    • @ntentemarko1132
      @ntentemarko1132 Před měsícem +1

      Hello my friend i have 2jz ge non vvti stock internals it's safe 450 whp ? working 0.7-0.8 bar?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před měsícem +1

      @@ntentemarko1132 yes safe, but boost have to be higher like 1 to 1.2 bar

    • @ntentemarko1132
      @ntentemarko1132 Před měsícem

      @@cheapkailaujing not have problem working 1 bar?cuz working high compression 10.1

    • @ntentemarko1132
      @ntentemarko1132 Před měsícem +1

      @@cheapkailaujing now working 0.5 bar with 100 octania 367 whp

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před měsícem

      @@ntentemarko1132 i was talking about gte internals with low compression

  • @shaidensmillie2218
    @shaidensmillie2218 Před 5 lety

    Nice video mate.keep it up. Congratulations on the baby.

  • @BjornFSE
    @BjornFSE Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for Making this video as requested. Definitely Appreciated knowing the differences. I own an Aristo 2JZ-GTE Engine in an MK3 Supra and a 2JZ-GE Engine in my MK4 Supra.
    Adding to Favorites to save for future reference. 👍👌

    • @BjornFSE
      @BjornFSE Před 5 lety

      If you find out more info on this feel the need to make a part 2 :D

  • @1988howie
    @1988howie Před 5 lety

    Excellent information!

  • @frankzane7326
    @frankzane7326 Před 5 lety +20

    helo bro michael .. i like your content
    Please make 1 videos how to build modify GE block to fit 2jz GTE head.
    oil water drill line setup and parts .. it will be interesting... thnks

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +3

      hi bro.. i hope i answered your questions here! =D czcams.com/video/yGakvyUW6No/video.html

    • @wuflu
      @wuflu Před 5 lety

      It's the same block just swap the head, Toyota didn't make two blocks. The gte is just modified version of ge

  • @hellkitty5088
    @hellkitty5088 Před 5 lety +1

    So much info thanks man

  • @BigJroskii206
    @BigJroskii206 Před 4 lety +1

    BOOM!
    Great content 👍
    I'll be subbing for sure

  • @jeremyblake9644
    @jeremyblake9644 Před 5 lety +2

    You’re very good at what you do. Thank you, great vid :)

  • @Stiefe300
    @Stiefe300 Před 5 lety

    Well explained 👍

  • @Outoftrouble
    @Outoftrouble Před 4 lety

    New to the channel, looking to build one soon! Great info!

  • @silviawonglim4935
    @silviawonglim4935 Před 5 lety +14

    aaww😘😚 your baby so cute....
    btw nice review engine.....😊

  • @anggiyudistira7391
    @anggiyudistira7391 Před 5 lety

    That's cool, man

  • @user-jg9ch1go1f
    @user-jg9ch1go1f Před 4 lety

    Thanks man you helped me alot

  • @vilasej7507
    @vilasej7507 Před 3 lety

    Thank. Good video 🤔🤔👍🏾

  • @skysupras4530
    @skysupras4530 Před 4 lety +1

    Very good video!! I have a Lexus SC300 ( you might know it as the soarer) and have the GE, very helpful!

  • @gamearron
    @gamearron Před 4 lety +1

    I have a ge block that I added oil squirters to. And I drilled and tapped both oil feeds. Do I need to do anything else to get oil out of the factory feed locations?

  • @DAN007thefoxx1
    @DAN007thefoxx1 Před 3 lety

    I have spent the last....I would say month or so doing my research on the JZ platform. And I figured that the block from the GE and GTE were more or less the same. Capable of withstanding near 1000 hp without cracking.
    I have considered a 2JZ build in my classic Mustang in the future for 400 hp (at the crank). Likely would use a single turbo, but nix power steering (since it had factory manual steering) and start off with a GE non vvti and of course have functioning AC all likely to be running on a standalone ECU.

  • @keurylara5948
    @keurylara5948 Před 4 lety

    Is there anyway to get an oil hose that splits into two from the vvti oil feed and hook it up to a turbo? Would i get good results?(Dont know much about cars only 16)

  • @Level_Up_Nation
    @Level_Up_Nation Před 4 lety +1

    Can the feed line to turbo come from an oil filter adapter plate instead of drilling into the block? lol nvm so run the feed line from the vvti port if not using vvti cams

  • @josephmanna9082
    @josephmanna9082 Před 5 lety +3

    Great vid man ... Congrats on the baby ... Hey ? Can I use the ge vvti head and use the gte cams and get rid of the vvti ?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety

      Yes but u need to lathe cut the cans if u r using non VVTi cams. But if u r using VVTi cams then it is ok. If it is possible it is better to retain the VVTi

  • @joshuaarce4175
    @joshuaarce4175 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks so much I have a 1992 sc300 auto. Do you have any advice on swapping transmission w58 or r154 ?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 4 lety

      1jz and 2jz using r154 or the 2jz manual. W58 cannot fit

  • @josephmanna9082
    @josephmanna9082 Před 5 lety

    Could you make a video on ge non vvti cams vs gte vvti cams all the 2jz cams any difference in lift and if they are interchangeable for any horsepower gains

  • @kingdj3551
    @kingdj3551 Před 4 lety

    Is there any way I can directly ask you questions about boosting my 2jzge?

  • @BilalAhmad1
    @BilalAhmad1 Před 4 lety

    what cars ge block are you using? is300 or sc300?

  • @2jzdemon
    @2jzdemon Před 4 lety +1

    Hey can you do a video on the difference between the 2jzgte and the 2jzgte vvti heads.some people say the non vvti flows more air has bigger ports ect?🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 4 lety

      yeah I do have a video about ge and gte heads, but i don;t have the vvti and non vvti heads. i am quite sure what they meant was the cams allocated for non vvti is much more aggressive, therefore can flow more air

  • @nickamarit
    @nickamarit Před 5 lety

    So if I'm going for a high-redline NA build for circuit use, is it better that I use a GTE block for the piston under-squirters? (Perhaps even go for the 1JZ-GTE block for easier revving from shorter stroke instead? And also cheaper than 2JZ-GTE.) What do you think?
    Beautiful kid you have, btw. :)

  • @ibrahimkhaleel437
    @ibrahimkhaleel437 Před 5 lety

    Please post more videos

  • @JapanWorks21
    @JapanWorks21 Před 3 lety +1

    My 2JZ-GE allready has Watercooled Oil filter 😀

  • @FelixBank
    @FelixBank Před 5 lety +2

    So I have a MK1 GS300. Do I turbo charge my 2JZ-GE? Or get a twin turbo VVTi 2JZ-GTE engine? Or just get a Toyota Aristo?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety

      Hmm what is ur goal. U need to be very clear to know what u actually want

  • @riceball4u172
    @riceball4u172 Před 3 lety +1

    2 years late, but Congratulations on the baby

  • @pawel_woloszyn
    @pawel_woloszyn Před 5 lety +1

    What do you say about the differences between vvti and non vvti in gte, which is better, apparently vvti is collisive and not vvti is collision-free. Apparently the connecting rods are stronger in non vvti. Are you a practitioner, could you recommend which solution better for tuning and why?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +2

      Well there are a few questions there. Collision free or not, is not an issue if ur timing belt doesn't break. So it depends on whether u need the response or not, for eg u r doing circuit, gymkhana or drift then u need VVTi. Then the con rods, always go for the stronger ones available. I'm a drift practitioner and I wanted low cost responsive 2jz,so I just tuned and matched my engine with a small turbo to reach 500hp and that's enough haha

  • @3guavamidnit
    @3guavamidnit Před 5 lety +1

    Hi Michael. I have the 2005 IS300 with run 2JZ GE...but I want to upgrade into turbo. Do you think that is a good idea? Will it last long for a daily driver? Not planning to drift or anything like that...

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety

      Yeah 2jz can last long.. However it all depends on your goals. Like how much horsepower and budget u want.. If u want to have turbo, u need to consider head gasket, exhaust manifold, the turbo, and aftermarket ecu. But if u want to just add some horsepower on ur 2jz GE, a good tune with ecu should be just fine

    • @3guavamidnit
      @3guavamidnit Před 5 lety

      Can you please recommend a good turbo kit? By the way...will it passed the smog check with turbo install cuz of the cold air intake? I am in California, so smog check does required.

  • @servantofMostHighELELON
    @servantofMostHighELELON Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Michael. Should I get ge crankshaft or gte? I have ge block

  • @rifaiatraisa4862
    @rifaiatraisa4862 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the video brother. But I have a question; is the 2JZ GE VVT-I block same as the 2JZ GE Non VVT-I block?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah same.. Just don't have the VVTi oil outlet haha.

  • @josephmanna9082
    @josephmanna9082 Před 5 lety +1

    Also can you drill and tap holes where the oil squirters go on the ge block and turn your ge block into a gte one? In your good with drill and tap and mill down a flat spot where they go and then drill and tap holes one for the oil and one for the dow pin on the oil squirter:) lmk thanks

    • @josephmanna9082
      @josephmanna9082 Před 5 lety +1

      I think its possible ... because I think the oil galleys are in the same spot you would have just have to put the block on a milling machine and put a mill down in the area where the oil squirters go on the GTE and just make a flat surface and then drill and tap out the holes where the oil Galley is and then you would be able to use the oil squirters I have a spare GE engine on the stand and tempted to do the GTE conversion myself

    • @josephmanna9082
      @josephmanna9082 Před 5 lety

      If you look down inside there's a square where the oil squirters must go the casting there hasn't been mailed down and I believe that there is an oil Galley below it

    • @BjornFSE
      @BjornFSE Před 5 lety

      I believe I read in a forum some time back that you can indeed drill in the oil squirter holes and fit them on. but much like you said I cannot confirm %100 without visual proof.

    • @josephmanna9082
      @josephmanna9082 Před 5 lety

      Well i have a ge block that im willing to mill

  • @nzcabbage1923
    @nzcabbage1923 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi michael great video mate, i just have few questions you may be able to help me with. So i have a GE non vvti in my mk4 supra which i intend to turbo charge as my father is a mechanic and we have our own workshop, and i already have a good turbo sitting there waiting for me as well as some 660cc injectors so i dont really want to spend 5000 dollars on a gte engine and throw half of it away..
    Anyway, im not sure what the limitation on the GE pistons is so is it possible to use GTE pistons in the GE block? If so my dad recommends forged pistons just for some extra strength but we dont know if they will fit in the ge block. Also i saw in your other video that the headgaskets are different do you know if its necessary to use thicker headgasket to lower the compression ratio for the boost? I'm going to use headstuds aswell as its only a few hundred dollars for a bit of extra strength. But i'm stuck on the piston and headgasket part for the GE block. Any advice?

    • @nzcabbage1923
      @nzcabbage1923 Před 5 lety

      @@cheapkailaujing Thanks for the quick reply! in this case i will be running 98 octane fuel its the highest fuel in new zealand (that isnt e85 but its just a road car) but as i said in your video that i watched the GTE headgasket doesnt seem to fit on the ge block? i would like to run a thicker gasket on it i wont feel very comfortable using the stock ge one haha. But thats great news for me if i can use gte pistons. stock gte pistons is an option but my dad recommended just spending the extra money on forged pistons. So really my only concern is the headgasket.
      For the rest of the head we are switching to coil on plug instead of stock GE ignition and we will be getting an aftermarket intake and turbo manifold etc. thats why i mentioned for me atleast buying a GTE engine package is pointless as i intend to change most of it anyway. So yeah my only question really is can you modify the GTE headgasket to fit on the GE block? or an aftermarker one? thanks :D

    • @mtwdew45
      @mtwdew45 Před 5 lety

      NZCabbage hey man I have a Lexus sc300 witch has the same motor as your Supra the con rods and crankshaft are the same as the gte don’t worry about upgrading them keep the bottom end stock only thing you should get is the gte headgasket and arp head studs and you’ll be good for 800whp all day long

    • @nzcabbage1923
      @nzcabbage1923 Před 5 lety

      @@mtwdew45 yeah was gonna do head studs and headgasket. I only want 400whp so will the stock pistons live?

    • @mtwdew45
      @mtwdew45 Před 5 lety

      NZCabbage yea the only difference is your compression will be higher but that’s good for quick turbo spool honestly the best setup for you would be a borgwarner s300 and you can use a eBay turbo manifold it’s proven to hold power and it’s cheap

    • @mtwdew45
      @mtwdew45 Před 5 lety

      NZCabbage the bottom end is the last thing I would touch I would worry about spark hks makes a spark booster you can get a used one for around 200

  • @jakemasuda122
    @jakemasuda122 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey man i have a whole bunch of 2jz gte parts and i was wondering weather it’s possible to buy a 2jz ge vvti and use all my gte vvti parts on it ?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 3 lety

      Yeah but depends.. Intake manifold and exhaust manifold cannot. I got other videos talked about this. Block is the same with minor mod.

  • @MrDoomzy
    @MrDoomzy Před 5 lety +4

    Congrats on the baby man. So if I wanted to do a big single turbo which block would I want?

    • @MrDoomzy
      @MrDoomzy Před 5 lety +1

      GTE is assume?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +1

      Gte has oil squiters, better piston cooling, and they don't reduce much oil pressure. But if u r going for lesser than 600hp,ge block like mine is ok too.. :)

  • @turbogears900
    @turbogears900 Před 5 lety +1

    Can u do a video on the 1jzgte none vvti

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety

      Sorry.. There isn't much difference.. Only block is shorter. The rest are the same.. Oil pump is the same

  • @supraanon1914
    @supraanon1914 Před 5 lety

    Hi mate I’m building my 2jz Ge I’m putting hks pistons in I got 5 rods from the same engine so all about right on weight and I have a rod from another engine it weighs 8 gram more do i need to balance it ?

    • @supraanon1914
      @supraanon1914 Před 5 lety

      Michael Chung vui min there tt Conrad’s from a tt block
      I’ve took the vvti Conrad’s and pistons out .
      I’ve bought hks 87mm pistons and had the block bored and honed . With proper clearances etc.

    • @BjornFSE
      @BjornFSE Před 5 lety

      I also read on a forum that the Rods from the VVTI is weak but on the GE non VVTI the rods are the same as the GTE however the piston head is different as needed. Presumably you can put new Piston heads on :D

  • @rolldog82
    @rolldog82 Před 4 lety

    Can i make is300 2jzge supercharged instead?

  • @jeffreystull2099
    @jeffreystull2099 Před 5 lety +1

    Had to subscribe because little cute Tiffany

  • @supraanon1914
    @supraanon1914 Před 5 lety

    I’ve noticed on my cylinder head camshaft side that on the exhaust side half’s dark with oil etc but the back half is very clean have you a email I can send a pic to see what you think I’m wondering if it’s been starved of oil 👍

  • @frankzane7326
    @frankzane7326 Před 5 lety

    How about jz fse?

  • @amrishamrish8265
    @amrishamrish8265 Před 5 lety +1

    hi there Michael Chung, are the 2jzge and 2jzgte crankshaft the same?????? hopefully you will give me an answer. thank you.

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety

      oh yeah! both of them are exactly the same! One more bonus tip: the main bearings can be reused too!

    • @amrishamrish8265
      @amrishamrish8265 Před 5 lety

      @@cheapkailaujing ok thank you very much. right now i have acl main bearings,so if i am correct i can reused right??? and replace the rod bearings with new ones.

  • @raymondabdon
    @raymondabdon Před 5 lety +2

    Hello baby good day.nice review

  • @puzo-we3hp
    @puzo-we3hp Před 3 lety

    Which engine more better 1JZ GTE or 2JZ GE ???

  • @bradboney3365
    @bradboney3365 Před 3 lety +1

    Can u PUT A GTE HEAD ON A GE BLOCK ?

  • @alltheboost5363
    @alltheboost5363 Před 5 lety +3

    It looks like on the GE and the GTE far as the oil squirters both blocks have the little flat spot one is just not drilled-out... do people add oil squirters in the GE block from the GTE just a drill and tap the little flat spot and add the squirters? My personal opinion is if you're staying under 350 maybe even up to 400 horsepower you don't need them but once you get into high-revving autocross road race drifting above those power levels you probably need them. So if anybody out there knows if they've added the squirters and what's people's actual experiences power level wise and having them or not having them?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety

      Oh ya a small update.. My 2jz gte block has been doing drifting for quite some time now.. It is around 500hp ish haha

    • @louraloura901
      @louraloura901 Před 2 lety

      A

  • @turbogears900
    @turbogears900 Před 5 lety

    How can I make 550hp to the wheel with my 2jzge none vvti any tips ?

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 4 lety

      Lexus life nyc eBay turbo arp rod bolts and arp head studs and good tune

    • @turbogears900
      @turbogears900 Před 4 lety

      @@spankthemonkey3437 thanks for replying. I scratches that idea and went ans but a 2jzgte vvti

  • @nickamarit
    @nickamarit Před 5 lety +1

    Do GTE oil squirters cause more oil to be burned?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +2

      no, there only allow more lubrication and cooling for the pistons

    • @nickamarit
      @nickamarit Před 5 lety +1

      @@cheapkailaujing Ahh, thank you sir. Would you be doing a video on how to add oil squirters to an NA block?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +2

      @@nickamarit hmm not so soon tho, because I have been using NA block for about 500hp application without oil squiters and it is still running fine =)

    • @nickamarit
      @nickamarit Před 5 lety +1

      @@cheapkailaujing Okie dokie!
      May I ask how high is your redline for your 500hp engine?

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +2

      @@nickamarit about 7300rpm.. don't want to be too high, altho i have ati damper, but i don;t have the valve springs.. hmm

  • @the_rush_to_nothing
    @the_rush_to_nothing Před 4 lety +1

    Your baby started crying in the end because she knows I drive a 2JZ-GE. I cry too.

  • @williamguldager
    @williamguldager Před 5 lety +1

    first.. gj man

  • @overbuiltautomotive1299
    @overbuiltautomotive1299 Před 5 lety +2

    i using the ge block i ant buying a gte n throwing away all the old stuff one can add oil squirters if there a descent mechanic

    • @cheapkailaujing
      @cheapkailaujing  Před 5 lety +1

      mine did not add oil squirters at all, and running 1.7bar ok =) GE block and GTE block are same in strength =)

  • @elzrlf8543
    @elzrlf8543 Před 5 lety

    Los pistones del gte y ge son iguales?

    • @h.a.4600
      @h.a.4600 Před 5 lety

      No amigo, los del GTE son forjados de fabrica, el GE solo aguanta 450 caballos de fuerza.

    • @elninoratasupremo1767
      @elninoratasupremo1767 Před 5 lety

      Pistones del GE no vvti son iguales a las del GTE... Todo lo que es vvti es basura

    • @h.a.4600
      @h.a.4600 Před 5 lety

      @@elninoratasupremo1767 Negativo, los de GE son de compresion mas alta, los de GTE tienen una compresion mas baja pero las vielas y pistones son forjadas.

  • @STIZEN9
    @STIZEN9 Před 4 lety +1

    I NEED TO KNOW IF THERE EVER EXISTED A 2JZ GTE , THAT HAD VVTI AS WELL? NO RIGHT?

  • @brayanb8833
    @brayanb8833 Před 5 lety

    ,,😂

  • @christopherwilliams9328
    @christopherwilliams9328 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello...been watching ur videos..i currently have a 2jzge ( out of a sc300) that im goining to build as an NA/T to put in my mk3 SUPRA..i may need some advise and guidance along the way..if you're willing to help out if i have any question shoot me a way to contact you please..or u can contact me via email...kountryboy8407. at gmail

    • @christopherwilliams9328
      @christopherwilliams9328 Před 4 lety

      I plan on doing the 2jzge na/t build and running it on 7mgte electronics and ecu until i get a stand alone...so far i have CP pistons, Eagle rods (ARP L19 rod bolts ) RC 550cc injectors, ARP head studs, turbonetics t4 60-1 AR.70 twinscroll...still collecting parts