2JZ Tuesday: The difference between 2jz GE and GTE engine block (and similarities!)
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- Finally! After a long time stabilizing my newborn, Here it is the video about the difference between 2JZ GE (NA) and GTE engine block, and also the similarities about these 2. (it may be easy to knew about the similarities but I would like to point them out for those who don't know yet =)
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hi guys! Here it is the difference for the GE and GTE Engine block, but I got another video which is full analysis difference between GE and GTE Cylinder head: czcams.com/video/SS4elzfDzdA/video.html enjoy
Hello my friend i have 2jz ge non vvti stock internals it's safe 450 whp ? working 0.7-0.8 bar?
@@ntentemarko1132 yes safe, but boost have to be higher like 1 to 1.2 bar
@@cheapkailaujing not have problem working 1 bar?cuz working high compression 10.1
@@cheapkailaujing now working 0.5 bar with 100 octania 367 whp
@@ntentemarko1132 i was talking about gte internals with low compression
Nice video mate.keep it up. Congratulations on the baby.
Thanks for Making this video as requested. Definitely Appreciated knowing the differences. I own an Aristo 2JZ-GTE Engine in an MK3 Supra and a 2JZ-GE Engine in my MK4 Supra.
Adding to Favorites to save for future reference. 👍👌
If you find out more info on this feel the need to make a part 2 :D
Excellent information!
helo bro michael .. i like your content
Please make 1 videos how to build modify GE block to fit 2jz GTE head.
oil water drill line setup and parts .. it will be interesting... thnks
hi bro.. i hope i answered your questions here! =D czcams.com/video/yGakvyUW6No/video.html
It's the same block just swap the head, Toyota didn't make two blocks. The gte is just modified version of ge
So much info thanks man
BOOM!
Great content 👍
I'll be subbing for sure
You’re very good at what you do. Thank you, great vid :)
Well explained 👍
New to the channel, looking to build one soon! Great info!
aaww😘😚 your baby so cute....
btw nice review engine.....😊
That's cool, man
Thanks man you helped me alot
Thank. Good video 🤔🤔👍🏾
Very good video!! I have a Lexus SC300 ( you might know it as the soarer) and have the GE, very helpful!
oh thanks =D hope it helps
I have a ge block that I added oil squirters to. And I drilled and tapped both oil feeds. Do I need to do anything else to get oil out of the factory feed locations?
I have spent the last....I would say month or so doing my research on the JZ platform. And I figured that the block from the GE and GTE were more or less the same. Capable of withstanding near 1000 hp without cracking.
I have considered a 2JZ build in my classic Mustang in the future for 400 hp (at the crank). Likely would use a single turbo, but nix power steering (since it had factory manual steering) and start off with a GE non vvti and of course have functioning AC all likely to be running on a standalone ECU.
Is there anyway to get an oil hose that splits into two from the vvti oil feed and hook it up to a turbo? Would i get good results?(Dont know much about cars only 16)
Can the feed line to turbo come from an oil filter adapter plate instead of drilling into the block? lol nvm so run the feed line from the vvti port if not using vvti cams
Great vid man ... Congrats on the baby ... Hey ? Can I use the ge vvti head and use the gte cams and get rid of the vvti ?
Yes but u need to lathe cut the cans if u r using non VVTi cams. But if u r using VVTi cams then it is ok. If it is possible it is better to retain the VVTi
Thanks so much I have a 1992 sc300 auto. Do you have any advice on swapping transmission w58 or r154 ?
1jz and 2jz using r154 or the 2jz manual. W58 cannot fit
Could you make a video on ge non vvti cams vs gte vvti cams all the 2jz cams any difference in lift and if they are interchangeable for any horsepower gains
Is there any way I can directly ask you questions about boosting my 2jzge?
what cars ge block are you using? is300 or sc300?
Hey can you do a video on the difference between the 2jzgte and the 2jzgte vvti heads.some people say the non vvti flows more air has bigger ports ect?🤷🏼♀️
yeah I do have a video about ge and gte heads, but i don;t have the vvti and non vvti heads. i am quite sure what they meant was the cams allocated for non vvti is much more aggressive, therefore can flow more air
So if I'm going for a high-redline NA build for circuit use, is it better that I use a GTE block for the piston under-squirters? (Perhaps even go for the 1JZ-GTE block for easier revving from shorter stroke instead? And also cheaper than 2JZ-GTE.) What do you think?
Beautiful kid you have, btw. :)
Please post more videos
My 2JZ-GE allready has Watercooled Oil filter 😀
Hehe yeah mine too..
So I have a MK1 GS300. Do I turbo charge my 2JZ-GE? Or get a twin turbo VVTi 2JZ-GTE engine? Or just get a Toyota Aristo?
Hmm what is ur goal. U need to be very clear to know what u actually want
2 years late, but Congratulations on the baby
What do you say about the differences between vvti and non vvti in gte, which is better, apparently vvti is collisive and not vvti is collision-free. Apparently the connecting rods are stronger in non vvti. Are you a practitioner, could you recommend which solution better for tuning and why?
Well there are a few questions there. Collision free or not, is not an issue if ur timing belt doesn't break. So it depends on whether u need the response or not, for eg u r doing circuit, gymkhana or drift then u need VVTi. Then the con rods, always go for the stronger ones available. I'm a drift practitioner and I wanted low cost responsive 2jz,so I just tuned and matched my engine with a small turbo to reach 500hp and that's enough haha
Hi Michael. I have the 2005 IS300 with run 2JZ GE...but I want to upgrade into turbo. Do you think that is a good idea? Will it last long for a daily driver? Not planning to drift or anything like that...
Yeah 2jz can last long.. However it all depends on your goals. Like how much horsepower and budget u want.. If u want to have turbo, u need to consider head gasket, exhaust manifold, the turbo, and aftermarket ecu. But if u want to just add some horsepower on ur 2jz GE, a good tune with ecu should be just fine
Can you please recommend a good turbo kit? By the way...will it passed the smog check with turbo install cuz of the cold air intake? I am in California, so smog check does required.
Hey Michael. Should I get ge crankshaft or gte? I have ge block
Both are exactly the same
Love the video brother. But I have a question; is the 2JZ GE VVT-I block same as the 2JZ GE Non VVT-I block?
Yeah same.. Just don't have the VVTi oil outlet haha.
Also can you drill and tap holes where the oil squirters go on the ge block and turn your ge block into a gte one? In your good with drill and tap and mill down a flat spot where they go and then drill and tap holes one for the oil and one for the dow pin on the oil squirter:) lmk thanks
I think its possible ... because I think the oil galleys are in the same spot you would have just have to put the block on a milling machine and put a mill down in the area where the oil squirters go on the GTE and just make a flat surface and then drill and tap out the holes where the oil Galley is and then you would be able to use the oil squirters I have a spare GE engine on the stand and tempted to do the GTE conversion myself
If you look down inside there's a square where the oil squirters must go the casting there hasn't been mailed down and I believe that there is an oil Galley below it
I believe I read in a forum some time back that you can indeed drill in the oil squirter holes and fit them on. but much like you said I cannot confirm %100 without visual proof.
Well i have a ge block that im willing to mill
Hi michael great video mate, i just have few questions you may be able to help me with. So i have a GE non vvti in my mk4 supra which i intend to turbo charge as my father is a mechanic and we have our own workshop, and i already have a good turbo sitting there waiting for me as well as some 660cc injectors so i dont really want to spend 5000 dollars on a gte engine and throw half of it away..
Anyway, im not sure what the limitation on the GE pistons is so is it possible to use GTE pistons in the GE block? If so my dad recommends forged pistons just for some extra strength but we dont know if they will fit in the ge block. Also i saw in your other video that the headgaskets are different do you know if its necessary to use thicker headgasket to lower the compression ratio for the boost? I'm going to use headstuds aswell as its only a few hundred dollars for a bit of extra strength. But i'm stuck on the piston and headgasket part for the GE block. Any advice?
@@cheapkailaujing Thanks for the quick reply! in this case i will be running 98 octane fuel its the highest fuel in new zealand (that isnt e85 but its just a road car) but as i said in your video that i watched the GTE headgasket doesnt seem to fit on the ge block? i would like to run a thicker gasket on it i wont feel very comfortable using the stock ge one haha. But thats great news for me if i can use gte pistons. stock gte pistons is an option but my dad recommended just spending the extra money on forged pistons. So really my only concern is the headgasket.
For the rest of the head we are switching to coil on plug instead of stock GE ignition and we will be getting an aftermarket intake and turbo manifold etc. thats why i mentioned for me atleast buying a GTE engine package is pointless as i intend to change most of it anyway. So yeah my only question really is can you modify the GTE headgasket to fit on the GE block? or an aftermarker one? thanks :D
NZCabbage hey man I have a Lexus sc300 witch has the same motor as your Supra the con rods and crankshaft are the same as the gte don’t worry about upgrading them keep the bottom end stock only thing you should get is the gte headgasket and arp head studs and you’ll be good for 800whp all day long
@@mtwdew45 yeah was gonna do head studs and headgasket. I only want 400whp so will the stock pistons live?
NZCabbage yea the only difference is your compression will be higher but that’s good for quick turbo spool honestly the best setup for you would be a borgwarner s300 and you can use a eBay turbo manifold it’s proven to hold power and it’s cheap
NZCabbage the bottom end is the last thing I would touch I would worry about spark hks makes a spark booster you can get a used one for around 200
Hey man i have a whole bunch of 2jz gte parts and i was wondering weather it’s possible to buy a 2jz ge vvti and use all my gte vvti parts on it ?
Yeah but depends.. Intake manifold and exhaust manifold cannot. I got other videos talked about this. Block is the same with minor mod.
Congrats on the baby man. So if I wanted to do a big single turbo which block would I want?
GTE is assume?
Gte has oil squiters, better piston cooling, and they don't reduce much oil pressure. But if u r going for lesser than 600hp,ge block like mine is ok too.. :)
Can u do a video on the 1jzgte none vvti
Sorry.. There isn't much difference.. Only block is shorter. The rest are the same.. Oil pump is the same
Hi mate I’m building my 2jz Ge I’m putting hks pistons in I got 5 rods from the same engine so all about right on weight and I have a rod from another engine it weighs 8 gram more do i need to balance it ?
Michael Chung vui min there tt Conrad’s from a tt block
I’ve took the vvti Conrad’s and pistons out .
I’ve bought hks 87mm pistons and had the block bored and honed . With proper clearances etc.
I also read on a forum that the Rods from the VVTI is weak but on the GE non VVTI the rods are the same as the GTE however the piston head is different as needed. Presumably you can put new Piston heads on :D
Can i make is300 2jzge supercharged instead?
yes, same work involved as turbo tho.
Had to subscribe because little cute Tiffany
Haha much love appreciated.. Haha :)
I’ve noticed on my cylinder head camshaft side that on the exhaust side half’s dark with oil etc but the back half is very clean have you a email I can send a pic to see what you think I’m wondering if it’s been starved of oil 👍
How about jz fse?
hi there Michael Chung, are the 2jzge and 2jzgte crankshaft the same?????? hopefully you will give me an answer. thank you.
oh yeah! both of them are exactly the same! One more bonus tip: the main bearings can be reused too!
@@cheapkailaujing ok thank you very much. right now i have acl main bearings,so if i am correct i can reused right??? and replace the rod bearings with new ones.
Hello baby good day.nice review
Which engine more better 1JZ GTE or 2JZ GE ???
Can u PUT A GTE HEAD ON A GE BLOCK ?
It looks like on the GE and the GTE far as the oil squirters both blocks have the little flat spot one is just not drilled-out... do people add oil squirters in the GE block from the GTE just a drill and tap the little flat spot and add the squirters? My personal opinion is if you're staying under 350 maybe even up to 400 horsepower you don't need them but once you get into high-revving autocross road race drifting above those power levels you probably need them. So if anybody out there knows if they've added the squirters and what's people's actual experiences power level wise and having them or not having them?
Oh ya a small update.. My 2jz gte block has been doing drifting for quite some time now.. It is around 500hp ish haha
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How can I make 550hp to the wheel with my 2jzge none vvti any tips ?
Lexus life nyc eBay turbo arp rod bolts and arp head studs and good tune
@@spankthemonkey3437 thanks for replying. I scratches that idea and went ans but a 2jzgte vvti
Do GTE oil squirters cause more oil to be burned?
no, there only allow more lubrication and cooling for the pistons
@@cheapkailaujing Ahh, thank you sir. Would you be doing a video on how to add oil squirters to an NA block?
@@nickamarit hmm not so soon tho, because I have been using NA block for about 500hp application without oil squiters and it is still running fine =)
@@cheapkailaujing Okie dokie!
May I ask how high is your redline for your 500hp engine?
@@nickamarit about 7300rpm.. don't want to be too high, altho i have ati damper, but i don;t have the valve springs.. hmm
Your baby started crying in the end because she knows I drive a 2JZ-GE. I cry too.
it is still a 2JZ! =D
first.. gj man
i using the ge block i ant buying a gte n throwing away all the old stuff one can add oil squirters if there a descent mechanic
mine did not add oil squirters at all, and running 1.7bar ok =) GE block and GTE block are same in strength =)
Los pistones del gte y ge son iguales?
No amigo, los del GTE son forjados de fabrica, el GE solo aguanta 450 caballos de fuerza.
Pistones del GE no vvti son iguales a las del GTE... Todo lo que es vvti es basura
@@elninoratasupremo1767 Negativo, los de GE son de compresion mas alta, los de GTE tienen una compresion mas baja pero las vielas y pistones son forjadas.
I NEED TO KNOW IF THERE EVER EXISTED A 2JZ GTE , THAT HAD VVTI AS WELL? NO RIGHT?
There are tons of them
,,😂
Hello...been watching ur videos..i currently have a 2jzge ( out of a sc300) that im goining to build as an NA/T to put in my mk3 SUPRA..i may need some advise and guidance along the way..if you're willing to help out if i have any question shoot me a way to contact you please..or u can contact me via email...kountryboy8407. at gmail
I plan on doing the 2jzge na/t build and running it on 7mgte electronics and ecu until i get a stand alone...so far i have CP pistons, Eagle rods (ARP L19 rod bolts ) RC 550cc injectors, ARP head studs, turbonetics t4 60-1 AR.70 twinscroll...still collecting parts