Lay down or stand up? How to hang drywall. Tips and tricks series :)
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- This is my view on standing drywall up or laying it down. 3 reasons why you would stand it up in residential and 3 reasons why you would lay them down in commercial.
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Hey James, great video! As a finisher of 10 years I agree with all of your hanging requirements. I like my buts to be staggered at least 36 so when I finish my butts I don't run into the butt beside it. As far as stand ups, in residential standups suck to finish, I have to coat the flats before the angles get taped so that the angle runs true and not wavy every 4 feet, which puts it a coat behind. In commercial with a soft lid it works great. Here in new England we aren't pressured to do stand ups for fire code but so many hangers are lazy and stand every sheet up without staggering. Makes a real mess of the finish/drop ceilings.
I’m a little late on the comments I see this video is 3yrs old
I’ve been installing and finishing since 88 that’s 1988 your exactly right I would hire you to board
Another setting I get into in residential is you can’t get long sheets in a basement
I ll stand them up and down so I hint have a million buts
UNLESS the framing isn’t on 16” centers
You know what your doing
Cleanest name in the bizz that's great lmao
I’m a carpenter I live in Long Island NY and my office buildings were doing need to have a 1 hour fire rating for the demising walls. So, that’s double “fire coded” 5/8 from floor to deck! We stand all of our boards up. Just wanted to share! Great video!
Why 1 hour? Does it take the fire department that long to put out the fire?, sarcasm..my brother told the fire Marshall.
Local 157 NYC here. We always stand up our boards in commercial work. Laying the boards down horizontally is always referred to as “railroading “ . In something like a commercial bathroom with multiple toilet carriers. It’s hard to keep a 16” on center layout . So we typically railroad the Sheetrock. Many commercial and residential buildings in NYC are old, and have very small freight elevators. Often the only size Sheetrock that fits in the elevator are 6’ boards. This becomes a nightmare when you have to stagger your joints and build 2 hour rated fire walls.
Union strong nation wide! From cali to NYC! Thanks for stopping by and sharing your experience on this subject
Local 277 here.. I was always told that we stand them up, because of fire rated. It gives a better rating having the seams break on a stud. We never lay them down in Syracuse NY. If it's open to structure, we stager our joints 8ft 10ft.
I've been laying them down all this time because I was taught that was the only proper way, so here I am taping butts like a sucker
In residential, I just feel like standing the drywall, doesn't tie the studs all together. Could have potential cracks at the vertical seams. Great points though.
Another reason to lay down drywall in commercial is if they ask for abuse board on the first 4 feet of the wall. Then you'll stack up and top off with white sheets.
I also like the technical video! I would love to see more of them!
Thanks for the video great to hear tricks to the trade .
When your hanging residential it’s generally on wood studs and they can be bowed, chewed up on one side etc so laying it down is generally better. I like standing up on commercial work you can throw it up quick ( I used to get paid by the sheet ) nice vid
Good tips. Would love more technical videos like this, and also tips on the business side of running a crew and pricing drywall jobs. Cheers from VA
It depends a lot on where you live as to how certain things are done. I live in new England where it could be 70 one day and 20 below the next 🤷🏻♂️ so the structure moves with the frost. The only time i stand up any sheets is if 4 or 5 feet will cover corner to corner like inside a closet. Especially a small closet.
Portland has great donuts!
5/8 stand ups really are fun not Lol keep up the good work Brother 👍👍⚒😎
I'm in kentucky and we hang residential like u said and commercial is the same as well
Thanks for the videos great help
Great information James, learned a lot.
I've been working commercial electric for a year and a half (IEC apprentice) and I don't remember ever seeing drywall being laid down here in Texas. Or it could be that I haven't been paying enough attention.
Love for videos. I am from Tri Cities out of local 59 . Keep up the good work !
Horizontal prevents cracks in California since there always earth quakes
Some people would like to say, horizontal or vertical
@Harry Ballzac Was just a joke a little gag. But the correct terminology would be to say horizontal or vertical, get a set of plans and they will not say stand up or lay down sheets.
Still gonna watch the vids. Do you James. Cleanest name in the biz
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There only two channels that enjoy watching on CZcams ... Nomadic ink and the drywall doctor
Did some standup in my residential and after I got going realized the drywall is 47-3/4 wide instead of 48 and it's not lining up right with the 16-center framing too well.
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Good video. I actually just asked about why some sheets were laying down in one of your last videos. Where we are fire rating requires the sheets to be stood up. Also for a slightly better sound transmission rating. I've never done residential and always wondered why sheets were laid. Does laying them down in residential also increase the strength of the wall and warping of the wood studs?
We stand up on metal and lay down on wood. Most wood studs are twisted slightly, which would require the flat joints to be doubled out with mud when stood up
I prefer my sheetrock,like I prefer my woman, horizontal! Stand up can be fun too! Who am I kidding,i'll take however I can get it. Mudders gotta mud!
A year ago "maybe I'll move to Portland 🤔" 2 months later "pack our shit, we're gettin the fuck outta here!" 😳🤦♂️ lmao
Great tips
Local 146 here
Glad to have you here!
Ive built some really quality modular homes and modular apartment buildings going to different states for fire rate the walls got 2 layers of 5/8, fire taped, then hat channel and another layer of 5/8.....🙄🤦♂️ fuckin sucks bro! Then of course all the fire sprinkler system you have to work around and these are super efficient buildings, the insulation is WAY over done to the point you're literally fighting against it to get the sheet tight to the framing..... nightmare. Glad im back to driving truck lol
Local 339 Massachusetts carpenters
so you don’t have a repetitive joint every 4 feet that can show up on a long well lit wall. Lazy hangers stand them up.
Are you union? Carpenter from chicago here
Yes I am
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Stop filming yourself. I didn’t click this to see you. What’s wrong with people