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  • Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry was asked about the possibility of Kevin Durant joining the Warriors after KD requested a trade earlier this summer. Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho ponder who would benefit more from a reunion, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  Před rokem

    Listen to Out of Character: sprtspod.fox/OOC

    • @seanhennsey2605
      @seanhennsey2605 Před rokem

      Archo you better say magic when you naming the top ten list brother

    • @alontehaywood9612
      @alontehaywood9612 Před rokem +1

      I agree you 2 are the smartest in all of TV. I love it when it get philosophical. A true sign of brilliance! 🤓 it shows u have a clear understanding and can analyze things on multiple levels

  • @lukes9192
    @lukes9192 Před rokem +66

    The idea that the warriors need KD because of the threat of the Los Angeles Lakers is why this is a football show

  • @newagestudios408
    @newagestudios408 Před rokem +96

    Steph obviously, he’s the one that didn’t have to leave. Steph won before, with and after KD. KD hasn’t won anything outside of GS, the narrative would only continue to be KD can’t win without GS. Meanwhile Steph continue to win championships without getting the criticism that KD gonna get. They going look at KD like you left and they won again without you. Bad look for KD.

    • @isaacdebeila8085
      @isaacdebeila8085 Před rokem +10

      Lol you doubt the love media gives KD man, I swear KD the only Robin who gets Batman treatment when it comes to KD while Curry is the only Batman who gets treated like Robin by refs, media and even fans even when Curry has proven them wrong too many times already

    • @themartindreyfussshow
      @themartindreyfussshow Před rokem +7

      I would argue KD, because I think steph will win another title without KD and not visa versus, and 1 finals for steph alone is better than 2 with KD

  • @natenate1462
    @natenate1462 Před rokem +60

    Curry does not need KD yall he already proved it & That's not a knock on KD

    • @Dustin_Love
      @Dustin_Love Před rokem +1

      He needed KD when he had him and before really wasn’t very good by his regular season MVP standard in 15(no Kyrie no Love they lose in 5 if Bron had them that year) an 16(they lost)in finals in those finals wo KD he scored less than playing alongside KD. The last finals he took that step as not just regular season man but that dude in finals

    • @blackdeon93
      @blackdeon93 Před rokem +16

      @@Dustin_Love Kd needed Steph way more. Anyone with eyes seen how much attention Steph and klay took off of him. If he saved golden state why can’t he save himself out of golden state ?

    • @Nazoto
      @Nazoto Před rokem +8

      @@Dustin_Love it's a 7 game series with 4 point difference so no they don't need KD specifically. Getting KD is overkill they just needed a bit of an upgrade

    • @DontAdoreYou
      @DontAdoreYou Před rokem +12

      @@Nazoto not to mention draymond out for a game. Bogut injured(elite rim protector) former finals mvp iggy injured. Not to mention steph and Barnes having the worst series of their career and it still came down to the last minute. Healthy warriors vs healthy cavs the warriors will win almost every time

    • @Dustin_Love
      @Dustin_Love Před rokem +2

      @@blackdeon93 I watched all them finals he played better being Robin to KD than when he was man in 15 and 16 period. I ain’t say KD didn’t need Warriors but they needed him they weren’t beating Cavs Kyrie outplayed Steph in 2016 much less Bron be real. U didn’t see Kyrie balling on Steph and Steph not having any big time games Draymond was going win that finals MVP if they won not Steph

  • @dancarli8639
    @dancarli8639 Před rokem +43

    We gonna act like magic and Kareem didn’t play together and ppl talk about them as the best

    • @realspitter2727
      @realspitter2727 Před rokem

      We gona act like they not passing around covid like Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy

    • @danielcarter5816
      @danielcarter5816 Před rokem

      🔥

    • @Michigan_dad
      @Michigan_dad Před rokem +2

      Kareem was already considered the greatest of all time before Magic Johnson was even drafted. Kareem legacy was already intact before magic you have to realize how long Kareem played. During that 80s run Magic was the best player on the lakers most of the decade. Look up the stats.

    • @dancarli8639
      @dancarli8639 Před rokem +3

      @@Michigan_dad doesn’t matter they won together kd and curry were already considered top 100 top 50 before joining each other

    • @dancarli8639
      @dancarli8639 Před rokem

      @@Michigan_dad and look at the number Kareem carried

  • @iamwaveofwaves
    @iamwaveofwaves Před rokem +13

    Warriors beat LeBron 3 out of 4 times in the NBA finals and it should have been 4 out of 4.. yet this guy Wiley wants to say Curry and Co is not enough? How is this take even taken serious?

    • @newagestudios408
      @newagestudios408 Před rokem

      4 out 4 how ??? 2015 Cavs win easily if Kyrie and Love is healthy, 2016 could’ve gone either way..

  • @OwnTwoFeetRecords
    @OwnTwoFeetRecords Před rokem +17

    As a Bay Area native and Warriors fan since Run-TMC(Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin) We don’t want or need Kevin Durant. He’s a great player, but out here in the bay we like the journey and challenge of winning with our own. I was highly upset when we got him the first time.
    It’s been proven that we can win Championships with or without him. It’s messing with my teams Leagacy.

  • @darnellshareef3764
    @darnellshareef3764 Před rokem +10

    I’ve never heard anyone say that Shaq and Kobe’s championships are tarnished because they played together. The hate for Steph has created an obvious double standard within the media.

    • @t.sangrini
      @t.sangrini Před rokem +2

      They can't wrap their minds around a small guy who happens to be light skin and pretty with green eyes can dominate the entire league the way he has without being a freak of nature and super athletic and is more popular and admired much more than the guys that fit that typical NBA player look. They are hurt to the core by this😭😭😂😂😂

    • @cky7765
      @cky7765 Před rokem

      @@t.sangrini can't forget that he didn't have a traumatic childhood so that's not relatable

  • @balogungaa2301
    @balogungaa2301 Před rokem +12

    What about Magic and Kareem,2 top 5 players,won all their rings together and no one uses it against them.

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh Před rokem

      Your basketball knowledge is atrocious 🤡 Kareem won with the bucks too smh. Maybe don’t talk ball

  • @cruzmakaveli9891
    @cruzmakaveli9891 Před rokem +27

    So if this affects KD and Steph then does that mean Lebrons two chips with Chris and Dwayne wade is diminished ?

    • @str8duval
      @str8duval Před rokem

      LeBron won without Wade and Bosh. Not only has KD not one without Steph but also lost a 3-1 leaf to him

    • @darthkermit4617
      @darthkermit4617 Před rokem +6

      People pick and choose what they want to look at to deminish or uplift someones "legacy"

    • @kingcort8073
      @kingcort8073 Před rokem

      That's not a good comparison though... they're better comparison like Kareem Magic...Kobe Shaq

    • @treydub-o-yoo964
      @treydub-o-yoo964 Před rokem +2

      KD went to a ready-made team coming off the best regular-season record in NBA history. LeBron and D'wade came together and recruited Bosh. Miami wasn't going anywhere without LeBron. The Warriors were going back the finals without KD (possibly). I hope that clears things up for you.

    • @yetundeadeyemi2436
      @yetundeadeyemi2436 Před rokem

      @@treydub-o-yoo964 yeah they would go to the finals because other than the spurs which a pre MVP Steph took to 6 games and a OKC team who would stop them

  • @willhenry6358
    @willhenry6358 Před rokem +6

    Why does ERRBODY seem to forget that when the Cavs beat the W's in the Finals (in 7 games) that the W's were without Bogut...Green had gotten ejected in game 5 and suspended in game 6 (because of a foul that wasn't called BUT should've been on LeBron) and Steph had hyperextended his knee in the series with the Rockets before the Finals...

    • @cky7765
      @cky7765 Před rokem

      Ikr but these fangirls don't like to look at facts... they can bark all they want about 2015 but 2016 they become silent..

  • @killablackmambakbm7593
    @killablackmambakbm7593 Před rokem +90

    Wiley talking like the Lakers have a title contending team when they don't. As of today the Lakers don't have a roster that will even make the playoffs much less go far in the playoffs or beat the warriors

    • @aquabayb4309
      @aquabayb4309 Před rokem +10

      Lol I thought the same, like wait a min lol

    • @chocboiwonda6810
      @chocboiwonda6810 Před rokem +8

      Exactly...saying Lebron like that's not enough...well you think street clothes and westbrick is? Ok

    • @killablackmambakbm7593
      @killablackmambakbm7593 Před rokem +1

      @@chocboiwonda6810 it isn't nearly enough

    • @jasonlevesque6340
      @jasonlevesque6340 Před rokem +3

      The Lakers most definitely have a team that can win in the playoffs IF AD stays healthy. That's a big if.

    • @killablackmambakbm7593
      @killablackmambakbm7593 Před rokem +4

      @@jasonlevesque6340 when has ad been healthy?the Mickey mouse ring year where everyone had months off. LeBron hasn't been healthy over the last 1 seasons either. They can't defend anymore and that is the main reason they lose.

  • @treydub-o-yoo964
    @treydub-o-yoo964 Před rokem +22

    Marcellus basically acknowledged that this would not be a good look for KD, without even knowing it, by saying how LeBron and Steph are in a slugfest fighting to get to head of the table, but Marcellus didn't mention anything about KD in the fight to get anywhere near the head of the table. That makes KD the new James Worthy, an all time great, but not a top 10.
    If KD wants to sit at the head of the table, he has to do it on a team that has never won before and he has to be the undeniably best player on that team

    • @traviscarter1023
      @traviscarter1023 Před rokem

      Yeah but he a 2-time M.V.P

    • @yetundeadeyemi2436
      @yetundeadeyemi2436 Před rokem +1

      2 time fmvp on a team with a 2 time MVP 4 time championship 2 time scoring champ Steph curry, don't get me wrong it doesn't disprove his accomplishments

    • @traviscarter1023
      @traviscarter1023 Před rokem

      @@yetundeadeyemi2436 What about Stephen Curry you see who everyone trying to play like that's deep impact

  • @christophershaffer3921
    @christophershaffer3921 Před rokem +36

    The NBA media makes this weird thing where they assume if you just add a really talented player, that it will lead to success. The Warriors literally just proved that a team can beat a more athletic, talented team. So, yes, KD is better than everyone on GS except Steph but the players they currently have fit and work well together.

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh Před rokem +2

      Kid you’re acting like adding a great player to the team with the best chemistry, 4 chips, best shooting backcourt in nba history with 2x league mvp isn’t a for sure chip😂 you must be a KD stan

    • @christophershaffer3921
      @christophershaffer3921 Před rokem +17

      @@MeBihhhh bro. How'd that work for the Lakers this past season? How about Brooklyn? And the Clippers? Yeah. Lotta talent and MVPS...and nothing to show for it. Yall keep getting seduced by talent and not actual chemistry and good teams.

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh Před rokem +1

      @@christophershaffer3921 literally none of those teams you pointed to has the chemistry, 4 chips, best shooting backcourt in nba history or a 2x mvp that is the only unanimous mvp ever😂 your reading comprehension and comparisons are trash🤡

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M Před rokem +7

      @@christophershaffer3921 the difference KD is a proven fit.
      The real issue is the teams around the league will be better next year but if the warriors have to give up youth for KD they might not win.
      Especially since every year KD and Steph get a bit older and draymond and klay are already looking old.

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M Před rokem +1

      @@christophershaffer3921 brooklyn was hurt every dam year that's a bad example.

  • @UPRISING144K
    @UPRISING144K Před rokem +46

    I think it’s odd, when Lebron gets super stars, nobody thinks it’s cheating. But if curry gets help, they think it’s not fair. What a double standard. Curry is simply so good and he makes others better, even more so than other super stars. Kd doesn’t make others better, neither does Lebron imo

    • @johncruzz5326
      @johncruzz5326 Před rokem +13

      Agree. No hating it’s just facts.

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před rokem +1

      @@johncruzz5326 difference is who they get as help, lebron has never played with a top 15 top 20 player, thats what steph and kd are. people act like every all star is same tier, theyre not, not every HOF is same tier, not every top 75 player is same tier, thats why context matters

    • @deejaay387
      @deejaay387 Před rokem +11

      @@youraverage90sguys7 how about anthony davis? We talking about him being top 5 in the nba.

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před rokem +1

      @@deejaay387 first of all, im talking about all time ranking, not currently in the league, second of all, nobody sees him as top 5, hes top 5 in talent, thats not the same as true top 5, kyrie is most talented currently, nobody in their right mind would say kyrie is top 10 player.

    • @deejaay387
      @deejaay387 Před rokem +13

      @@youraverage90sguys7 if you are talking about all time. Se we can also diminish the champiomship of kobe and shaq? And kareem and magic because thay are top 10 player all time.

  • @kedrianhardy7857
    @kedrianhardy7857 Před rokem +5

    Let’s be real. Bron benefited from Curry in foul trouble early in gm 5. Draymond ejected early. Then suspended for gm 6. Do Warriors wasn’t full force. Bron benefited. People thought the Cavs were going get beat in 5 or possibly swept.

  • @tristingarcia4347
    @tristingarcia4347 Před rokem +97

    I think everyone overstates the 2016 finals. Yes of course it was amazing what Lebron did but let’s not act like he demolished the warriors that year. They BARELY won in a GAME 7 and it came down to an amazingly clutch shot from Kyrie to beat those warriors. I think if both teams ran it back it’d be a coin flip on who would win

    • @byronsmith3152
      @byronsmith3152 Před rokem +20

      agreed. It took kyrie playing out of his mind in that series for them to win.

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill Před rokem +26

      Exactly… Not To Mention Andrew Bogut (Vital On That Team) Missed Games 6 & 7, While Iggy Missed 6 & Played In Game 7 Super Hobbled

    • @touchbytonymikael
      @touchbytonymikael Před rokem +17

      And Draymond Green 🤨💯Not in a game.. 🙈

    • @jake96ist
      @jake96ist Před rokem +8

      Winning the last 3 games while knowing that losing one means it’s all over is what makes 2016 so special. Nothing to overstate about what happened.

    • @returnofsimba4133
      @returnofsimba4133 Před rokem +6

      That 2015 finals cavs was up 2-1 and lost game 1 in ot could’ve easily been up 3-0 without ky and Klove so don’t act like that warriors team was so dominated or unbeatable they wasn’t that til KD

  • @Juntao1989
    @Juntao1989 Před rokem +7

    Y’all gotta PLEASE STOP ACTING like draymond green suspension never happened in 2016 🙄🙄

  • @spazniik_gaming3356
    @spazniik_gaming3356 Před rokem +53

    KD would definitely benefit more Kd has 2 rings Steph has 4 and we not judging Curry on how much he wins now his legacy was set years ago.

    • @blowc1612
      @blowc1612 Před rokem +1

      Lol no

    • @danmcgilldm
      @danmcgilldm Před rokem +4

      Nope. Kd gets more rings , it's because of Steph. KD goes there and gs doesn't win, it's KD's fault. It only benefits Steph.

    • @spazniik_gaming3356
      @spazniik_gaming3356 Před rokem

      @@danmcgilldm I disagree over time people will forget about how Kd went to the Warriors. The only thing that will remain is KDs rings if we talking about Legacy that’s a fact history gets blurred

    • @RustyShackleford997
      @RustyShackleford997 Před rokem

      The “team” legacy was set, not his personal legacy. Whether you like curry or not, Curry’s legacy wasn’t set until this year

    • @spazniik_gaming3356
      @spazniik_gaming3356 Před rokem +3

      @@RustyShackleford997 I disagree was he not the greatest shooter ever before this year? Him getting a finals MVP didn’t validate that it was already done that is his legacy. Without that finals MVP he had already changed the game. All he did this year was inhance it

  • @jerrellwinder6453
    @jerrellwinder6453 Před rokem +14

    Wiley stop the cap. Curry just won again without KD. The Lakers are done if AD doesn't take the lead on that team. Lebron is still great but there are levels and he can't carry the team anymore.

  • @20gangtay78
    @20gangtay78 Před rokem +25

    Steph would benefit more. KD would not benefit at all. Steph won 2 without KD now.
    Steph got 4 rings. If KD comes bacc, he could help them win 3-4 more rings but it is now SOLIDIFIED IN STONE that this is Steph’s team. KD could win 3-4 more FMVP and it wouldn’t change that.
    Going back to GS would be detrimental to KD’s legacy in every facet even if they go out and dominate like they should.

    • @shill4925
      @shill4925 Před rokem +8

      Exactly. Steph would benefit more. Steph with this last ring and Finals MVP is already solid. So at this point KD coming back will just help him stack rings to move him up the last. If they win 3 more KD will have 5, but Steph would have 7 rings. 7 rings is a lot. Lol.

    • @cooleycityy_see_it_too_wis7786
      @cooleycityy_see_it_too_wis7786 Před rokem +2

      What legacy does KD have?

    • @isaacdebeila8085
      @isaacdebeila8085 Před rokem +3

      @@cooleycityy_see_it_too_wis7786 lol exactly, but somehow people still have KD over Curry which is why Curry doesn't benefit when winning with KD

    • @t.sangrini
      @t.sangrini Před rokem +1

      @@cooleycityy_see_it_too_wis7786 The legacy of him arguing with 12 year old kids on social media🥴

    • @lewisjones3345
      @lewisjones3345 Před rokem

      KD is 34 and an OLD 34, hes not going to win or help win 3-4 more championship, maybe 1 or 2.

  • @w.alexis2283
    @w.alexis2283 Před rokem +6

    Calling KT "One legged Klay" is too much disrespect for the splash legend 😂

  • @FeelinAscension
    @FeelinAscension Před rokem +21

    There’s Magic and Kareem like you said, what about Shaq and Kobe tho? I think both benefit from it tbh how does adding more rings hurt your legacy?? Showtime Lakers were stacked and so were Larry’s Celtics

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 Před rokem

      The Celtics were a 50 loss team the year before bird, and a 60 win team in his rookie year.
      Its not like he walked into a loaded team.

    • @dpistons149
      @dpistons149 Před rokem

      @@whitewhale9012 Magic> Bird tho

    • @str8duval
      @str8duval Před rokem

      Kobe was viewed as a guy who couldn't win without Shaq until he change that narrative. Without doing that he's KD right now minus the weakest move in Sports history

    • @1968Frizz
      @1968Frizz Před rokem +2

      So we’re Lebron’s Heat Teams, with Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Mike Miller.

    • @isaacdebeila8085
      @isaacdebeila8085 Před rokem +2

      That's the issue Curry and Kobe are similar they are judged by the help they got, why other stars don't get that look which is hella stupid

  • @ant9228
    @ant9228 Před rokem +2

    I know deep down there are a large chunk of people that would love to see two of the greatest shooters ever dominate everyone again.

  • @cashflodigitalsportsnetwork

    0:37 huh, Pippen was a top 10 player in the 90’s and was the best SF in the 90’s.
    He came in 3rd behind Hakeem and David Robinson for MVP in 93-94.
    That same year I think he came in fourth behind them two and Mutombo for DPOY.

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před rokem +1

      theyre talking about all time ranking, not during their carreers in the league, pip is ranked in ball park about 30th range of all time, in 90s depending on the year, he was top 5 to top 10

    • @cashflodigitalsportsnetwork
      @cashflodigitalsportsnetwork Před rokem +2

      @@youraverage90sguys7 I mean in the 90’s…
      I never seen a player be the best at their position in the 90’s get as much disrespect as he does. This is even before his latest rants…

    • @mr.ridley8255
      @mr.ridley8255 Před rokem +1

      So a player is named an All Star game starter (game has 10 starters) throughout the 90’s but isn’t top 10 player? 🤔

    • @cashflodigitalsportsnetwork
      @cashflodigitalsportsnetwork Před rokem

      @@mr.ridley8255 I don’t know what’s going on these days, in other news, apparently, men can get pregnant.

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před rokem +1

      @@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork he was absolutely top 10 or even top 5 at certain points in the 90s.
      but again, here theyre talking about his all time historic ranking

  • @lucasmhlongo8109
    @lucasmhlongo8109 Před rokem +2

    Besides the lack of mentioning Andrew wiggins, I enjoy the segment.

  • @samdavis8765
    @samdavis8765 Před rokem +39

    Wiley needs to stop. Lebron is done winning championships. Lebron cannot guard anybody. Lebron will not even play a full season. Warriors don't need KD. I hope the warriors don't do this.

    • @SMILEY-cy7eh
      @SMILEY-cy7eh Před rokem +2

      Well how do you know all these things ?

    • @easymoneyrad
      @easymoneyrad Před rokem +1

      @@SMILEY-cy7eh ig he’s a genius or psychic

    • @easymoneyrad
      @easymoneyrad Před rokem +5

      Bron never will bro done winning, he always wants to win.

    • @glennjthompson332
      @glennjthompson332 Před rokem +3

      🥶It will be Bad!😧Curry is Not going to like this idea!😠/Curry already won it!, There is no need for him to bring back Him! (KD) 🔥He should go to Miami?🤔🔥Pat needs him more than ever!🤫If he goes there!🤨🔥

    • @CriticalSurvivor
      @CriticalSurvivor Před rokem +2

      Well he was 2nd in scoring this year and the season before that was ranked 6th in defense. Problem was this year AD was out more than half the season and they have zero depth so he had to prioritize offense 🤷‍♂️

  • @kennethsmith2587
    @kennethsmith2587 Před rokem +5

    Not a warriors fan, but I would not break up my team and the future for KD. 34 AND SENSITIVE!

  • @augustomundombe829
    @augustomundombe829 Před rokem +2

    Speak for Yourself this 2 brothers are simples the best!!

  • @jgard1168
    @jgard1168 Před rokem +17

    Curry lol duh daddy is opening his arms for his son again 😂🌚

    • @samthatboul5375
      @samthatboul5375 Před rokem +10

      @X Nah curry is kd daddy

    • @samthatboul5375
      @samthatboul5375 Před rokem +2

      @X He better not be saying anything different lol

    • @jgard1168
      @jgard1168 Před rokem +7

      @X curry opened up his arms and his team to KD Right ? 😂🤦🏽‍♀️ curry is obviously daddy

    • @taym510Oak
      @taym510Oak Před rokem

      @X nope curry is kd daddy he is the better player the most dangerous player in the NBA facts

    • @s001til
      @s001til Před rokem +1

      😂😂💯

  • @jebadaiah1228
    @jebadaiah1228 Před rokem +18

    This is simple KD should not want to join the warriors, if KD wants to be in a top 15 conversation, he needs to seperate himself from Steph Curry, if KD joins the warriors NOW... his legacy forever be a bus rider..

    • @wyatt9736
      @wyatt9736 Před rokem

      In a top 15 conversation? He is in the top 15. I have him at 13

    • @fritzspry8899
      @fritzspry8899 Před rokem

      Yall trying to make paths for others but not for yourself. Let them dudes do wtf they want. I know at my job I want the bet team around me. WTF u mean

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před rokem +1

      @@wyatt9736 no other top 15 player only has one mvp, we all know his 2 chips have an asterisk, stop it, kd is 15-20 range, glorified harden basically

    • @deryckcarrington564
      @deryckcarrington564 Před rokem

      @@youraverage90sguys7 Only 15 players have multiple MVP's. Kobe and Shaq both only had 1 each and they are still in my top 15. Also KD is much much better than Harden at almost every facet of the game other than facilitation.

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 Před rokem +1

      @@deryckcarrington564 they also have multiple legit chips, shaq has 3 as the driver and kobe has 2, kd has zero. all those multi time mvp winners are by default ahead of kd because his rings have an asterisk.
      he is not a better scorer, harden has higher raw output during his peak than kd ever has, mans most ppg is not even in 60+ range

  • @TexanEagleFan
    @TexanEagleFan Před rokem +5

    But with then Lakers and Celtics from the eighties were drafted and became great besides Kareem who was hurt when Magic was a rookie and won the championship playing center and same with the warriors KD needs Steph to be doubled teamed so he can feast off of 1v1 🤦🏾

  • @jordandavis3867
    @jordandavis3867 Před rokem +18

    Steph won two rings and a finals mvp without Durant so he has already proven he can get it done as the msin guy. KD cannot boast the same.

  • @tonymontana9642
    @tonymontana9642 Před rokem +4

    Wait did he say lebron and the lakers are about to be better next year so the warriors should want kd? 😂 my mind is blown

  • @ZimMill
    @ZimMill Před rokem +3

    Marcellus & Skip Battling To See Who Can Have The Most Embarrassing Take On These KD-Steph Topics

  • @ephraimlatson
    @ephraimlatson Před rokem +8

    Steph helped get the stinch off of Wiggins & KD. And if KD goes back....steph will do it again!! Now that's greatness.

  • @joe62591
    @joe62591 Před rokem +2

    This topic will be brought up everyday until nfl season

  • @vvonpanzerr3092
    @vvonpanzerr3092 Před rokem +3

    I love this show, I feel like I’m getting an Ivy League education every time 😂👌

  • @Don35
    @Don35 Před rokem +1

    These brothers are killing it. . ..😎

  • @ave383
    @ave383 Před rokem +4

    Steph doesn't need a superstar to beat Lebron. The 3-1 travesty came with a Draymond suspension and an ejection in the fourth quarter of steph being fouled out after playing amazing defense. Those are called phantom fouls. It came down to one game with all the games being officiated in LeBron favor with Lebron having to cry to the league office to have Draymond suspended.
    With all of that Harrison Barnes had a game where he scored 0 points. He was terrible that entire play off run. Literally every thing that could go wrong went wrong and Lebron barely beat them.
    They bested them by one game.
    I have no clue why people are acting like Golden State got swept when kyrie and love showed up.
    The cavs were down 3-1 getting blown out until they cried to the league office got draymond suspended and curry ejected from a game.

  • @atlga40us
    @atlga40us Před rokem +3

    Lebron gets AD = that’s great
    Steph gets AD = that’s cheating
    The bias I swear 😂😂

  • @Raven.Bloodrot
    @Raven.Bloodrot Před rokem +11

    Problem with Wiley's take is it assumed that LeBron is making it to the playoffs recent history simply isn't in favor of that happening.

    • @Wuntrey
      @Wuntrey Před rokem +1

      Go on record and say he wont make it back again. You got a fool proof algorithm seems like. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Raven.Bloodrot
      @Raven.Bloodrot Před rokem

      @@Wuntrey it would be like doubting Brady. He's good enough to make it to the finals every year, his team currently though..... He'll have to literally carry them there.

    • @Wuntrey
      @Wuntrey Před rokem

      @@Raven.Bloodrot Lol. I just wanted you to take some of dat bass out ya voice. Lmao. Cuz you know like iKnow bron a take me you n the rest of these ppl in the comments to da finals... We gone lose. Lol. Bt he gone get us there.

  • @JaySmith-rv4ro
    @JaySmith-rv4ro Před rokem

    “1 legged Klay?” Whoa lol shots fired.

  • @Stonecoldalston
    @Stonecoldalston Před rokem +4

    I think Steph benefits more because Even if he win more with KD the fact that He already won 2 Without him that won't diminish his rings but for KD it's going to be an accomplishment but people always gonna say well they won 2 Without you and you never won without them so their not going to carry as much value
    Curry playing with House Money
    Also I think this Time around Curry would get Finals MVP with this new dynamic

  • @Wumzyhenry
    @Wumzyhenry Před rokem

    You guys are fun couple to watch and listen to. Never a boring moment with you guys.
    Keep it up.👍👍👍👍👍

  • @efrainvillalobos9228
    @efrainvillalobos9228 Před rokem +2

    The Warriors don't need KD, nor should they invest in him. KD needed the Warriors in order to win 2 championships. He played in about 90 games in his 3 seasons with the Nets, is older, and he gave up on his teams. They are asking to much for KD and he's not worth it at this stage in his career.

    • @buddyjaydubb
      @buddyjaydubb Před rokem

      KD needs GS or any other team that’s established. They why he chose Miami or Phoenix as opposed to NY or Washington. He has become such a weak minded player. I used to go hard for this dude but I can’t no more 😒😒😒

  • @toobasaurus23
    @toobasaurus23 Před rokem

    These two guys are great to listen to.
    Loving the styles too. I wish I could pull off jackets like these.

  • @coeffyb4443
    @coeffyb4443 Před rokem +2

    What kind of a question is that, obviously KD would benefit more. Steph curry won without him already.

  • @iiConFuZze
    @iiConFuZze Před rokem +2

    anybody know what athlete Acho was referencing about the track and field suspension?

  • @jameslanier8218
    @jameslanier8218 Před rokem +2

    These guys are awesome 👏

  • @T.H.U.G
    @T.H.U.G Před rokem

    These guys r so talented, favorite duo

  • @vyerern
    @vyerern Před rokem +2

    Really? KD's image will change from returning to Warriors? "KD needs to join Steph and the Warriors if he wants a championship" - this narrative will be set in stone if he returns and wins. So what image are we talking about? A negative one, for sure.

  • @KPWASRIGHT
    @KPWASRIGHT Před rokem

    lmaoooo "the splash brothers are no more" LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @cooleycityy_see_it_too_wis7786

    I’m sorry but there are levels to this greatness thing, and when it’s all said and done the champions who stayed on one team their whole career are just in a different category. It just is what it is

  • @jeromegriffin7100
    @jeromegriffin7100 Před rokem +4

    Steph and Warriors don’t need KD at all. Stop all the hype bros!!

  • @BIG_TOE
    @BIG_TOE Před rokem +2

    *Marcellus Vernon Wiley*

  • @killablackmambakbm7593
    @killablackmambakbm7593 Před rokem +6

    Both. How are we gonna argue the fact that both Kareem and Magic are both top 10 players and won 5 titles together. Kareem won 1 mvp with magic and 1 finals mvp with magic. Magic won 3 finals mvps and 3 mvps with Kareem and that never diminished either of them. The problem with the playing with a top 10 player argument is there are only 10 in that equation. When wilt won with the Lakers Jerry west was likely a top 10 all time player at the time. When russel won his titles Sam Jones might have been a top 15-20 all time player at that time. Playing with another great player should not diminish you if you were both putting in work. LBJ had Wade and Bosh then Allen. Later Love and Kyrie . Then Howard, Rondo and AD when AD was honestly the best player in the regular season, first 3 rounds and first 2 games of the finals before he got hurt yet his help is never uses to diminish his greatness

  • @dieselx506
    @dieselx506 Před rokem

    Wiley too much of a fool there at the end with the church and all lol

  • @herbhealsus
    @herbhealsus Před rokem +3

    What has KD done to be a top ten? Two time champ one mvp? Curry has two mvps one unanimous, 4 champions, and a finals MVP. Legit could have been mvp the last 2 years if not for injuries. Y’all putting Kevin on the same page as Steph? kD is a top 15 player? Why. Explain that first then you can talk about comparisons.

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M Před rokem

      Kd could have been the MVP this year.
      He was on pace to be the #1 seed with brooklyn before he went down.
      With his stats and #1 seed he probably gets the MVP.
      Last year I thought Steph deserved the MVP over jokic but that's another conversation.
      I don't know if you realize this but KD hasn't had more than 4 healthy seasons in his prime outside of Golden state. In one of them he won a MVP.
      Both curry and KD were disqualified for MVP during 2017-2019 which is why I say outside of Golden state

  • @berniekerns4281
    @berniekerns4281 Před rokem +2

    Marcy..buddy.... interesting how you never mention Steph was hurt in 2016...along with Iggy...Looney...and Bogut...not to mention Dremond suspended for a game...

  • @IAMMOVIN4WARD
    @IAMMOVIN4WARD Před rokem +1

    Miss ya Brotha Wiley 👊🏾

  • @atlga40us
    @atlga40us Před rokem +2

    Terrible argument, how they act like lebron didn’t win with AD and steady trying to add kyrie but that’s cool??? But KD on the warriors is not?? Lol the bias they have I swear 😂😂

  • @Lilbuck338
    @Lilbuck338 Před rokem +3

    Kevin Durant should write a letter apologizing to the franchise and stephen curry....Acho doesn't make sense. Magic and Kareem are both top 10, you don't hold them to that.

    • @tylerbradford427
      @tylerbradford427 Před rokem +3

      Each of them is also the best player ever at their position

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh Před rokem +1

      People should, magic never won without who many consider to be thee greatest ever in Kareem

    • @countryrah
      @countryrah Před rokem

      That's why mvp that the media vote for or rings that teams win don't show you who's the goat that's a single player award and if you don't have the proper team you can't win that's a fact it's a difference between most decorated and just the best skilled and most dominant combined which is what the goat should be I actually think t Mac better than some of the top 20 guys who got rings that's the truth gotta keep the same energy for all players not just LeBron and Jordan

    • @dancarli8639
      @dancarli8639 Před rokem

      @@tylerbradford427 played together

  • @ogbobbyt2159
    @ogbobbyt2159 Před rokem +10

    ship has sailed no worries.. but Steph benefits more bcuz the rings on a stacked team hurt KD not Steph 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @daquanmebane3955
    @daquanmebane3955 Před rokem +1

    Watching this video you would never know the lakers were like 20 games under .500

  • @darnellwillingham6883

    What a Reach Marcellus

  • @sandman1008
    @sandman1008 Před rokem +1

    Wiley's argument about LeBron is pretty whack, and laughable. It's based off of a narrative that more and more people are starting to realize is overstated. The narrative being GS had no chance of beating the 2017 and 18 Cavs without KD. But the real laughable part of the argument is suggesting that Curry and GS have to worry about LeBron and the Lakers. There are a few threats in the West, but the Lakers aren't one of them. They need to get rid of Westbrook, add Kyrie, and show that AD (and LeBron for that matter) can stay healthy enough for them to be considered a legitimate threat. And those are a lot of conditions to meet.
    I do agree that Curry would benefit more from KD rejoining GS, but it has nothing to do with LeBron. People have pretty much widely accepted that Curry should have won Finals MVP in 2015, and he can win a title with KD (with the 2022 chip). Adding KD back would just enhance Curry's chances of winning more rings, while being regarded as the leader of GS. And adding more rings under that regard will move him slowly up the list. I don't really think he'll reach the top 5. But if he finishes with 6 or 7 rings, the debates would begin.

  • @kwhitevuu99
    @kwhitevuu99 Před rokem +2

    Why is it fair when LeBron has the All-Star team but when someone else does it, it's a problem? How is this a LeBron topic???

  • @sirisaacmormont5445
    @sirisaacmormont5445 Před rokem +1

    This is silly. Shaq and Kobe were together. Magic and Kareem were together. All are in the top 10.

  • @garybanks4054
    @garybanks4054 Před rokem +2

    Only reason the Cavs beat the warriors is because Andrew Bogut got hurt. And that's the only reason.

  • @erasmussen14
    @erasmussen14 Před rokem

    This was a good discussion, alot of good points both ways. But this non-mentions of Wiggins almost made me think there is an agenda to get Wigs out of GS....

  • @calmtranquilitysounds688

    Draymond got suspended only reason Cavs won. Bron was gifted that ring from the NBA. Changed the whole series in his favor. Bogat went down so did iggy.

    • @L0UDM0UTH
      @L0UDM0UTH Před rokem

      Year before kyrie went down. And klove. Then ran to kd

  • @whitewhale9012
    @whitewhale9012 Před rokem +2

    Please dont!
    Warriors are one of the most enjoyable teams to watch because they play 5 on 5 as a team.
    KD is an iso player. Even when he was there they were less entertaining to watch.

  • @SShaBazzz
    @SShaBazzz Před rokem +4

    Whoa Acho. What you said went extremely too far. Why? Because by your logic, Magic and Kareem aren't top10 or arguably both top5 players. Last time I checked, they were on the same team.
    You say KD only has 2 championships but change face when you talk about Wilt, hakeen. How does that work?

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh Před rokem

      Wilt? The dude that changed the game and scored 100pts in 1 game? You seriously trying to compare KD to the unicorn

    • @SShaBazzz
      @SShaBazzz Před rokem

      @@MeBihhhh yes, I'm comparing KD to Wilt.

  • @ducekong7878
    @ducekong7878 Před rokem

    Collectively together they all are better then snake

  • @86fmn97
    @86fmn97 Před rokem +11

    Curry would benefit more. More Warriors titles means less Giannis and Luka championships, which would help keep Steph in most people's Top 10 list.

  • @tarusnash9632
    @tarusnash9632 Před rokem +1

    Come on Wiley, no one is afraid of Lebron or the Lakers!

  • @menensa
    @menensa Před rokem +1

    These dudes are pretty smart

  • @calmtranquilitysounds688

    Dont let him come back Steph Curry. KD will not win a other chip without you.

  • @georgel7222
    @georgel7222 Před rokem

    oh my

  • @streetgato9697
    @streetgato9697 Před rokem +2

    ***Assuming Lebron and the Lakers even makes the playoffs, but that's a long shot

  • @zzzz-ok7733
    @zzzz-ok7733 Před rokem +1

    No no and heck no! Keep Wiggins!

  • @xclusivedynastyera7741
    @xclusivedynastyera7741 Před rokem +3

    Nooooo we dont want KD back, he screws up the system... yeah he talks good "i like how they play basketball" but eventually he turns into the bratty brand of basketball trying to strickly play Iso and it pisses Steph off trust i've seen it multiple times.

  • @gwest9076
    @gwest9076 Před rokem +1

    What button? Lebron and the Lakers didn't even make the play in tournament.

  • @mikehouston7015
    @mikehouston7015 Před rokem +4

    I'm confused on how Steph and Durant teaming up is different than Magic and Kareem?

  • @maestroacademyclass
    @maestroacademyclass Před rokem +2

    We deep enuff with Klay, Draymond, Wiggins, Poole, wiseman, moody, and the new 22 addition all are young blood more athletic than KD going to his 35th birthday sorry 🤷🏾😊😉

  • @djdreambig6831
    @djdreambig6831 Před rokem +2

    They not say all help LB had in Mia, Cle, LA? So let KD and Curry be great. Lol so LB won all his chips solo? The Klay be better next year 🤦🏾

  • @ZimMill
    @ZimMill Před rokem

    This Ain’t Even A Serious Debate Anymore

  • @popularchat6723
    @popularchat6723 Před rokem +2

    Marcelus convenient leaving out the fact both teams weren't fully loaded for all 7 games in 2016; Draymond was suspended for game 5. Plus, that was 6 years ago. Lakers do not have it currently and would get blown off the floor trying to test The Warriors now.

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M Před rokem +1

      Iggy had back issues, bogut was shirt in game 5.
      Not a coincidence that the cavs, lebron, and Kyrie had their best games in game 5 and 6.

  • @robertkwiatkoski1292
    @robertkwiatkoski1292 Před rokem

    Hope it's just a talking point. I think the Warriors have/ are getting things lined up! Just hope the newer/ younger players buy in.

  • @9FINGA
    @9FINGA Před rokem +1

    It benefits them because they will have fun being dominant playing the best brand of basketball. That is if KD buys in more this time. Lacob also saves money starting next year by not having to pay wigs and poole

  • @joesoftware1
    @joesoftware1 Před rokem

    Jesus Christ what is it with the media milking this topic.

  • @mr.ridley8255
    @mr.ridley8255 Před rokem

    11:53 this man act like Wiggins didn’t play a big part in the Finals

  • @Blaiyan
    @Blaiyan Před rokem

    How did this end being about lebron James? You'll really have nothing of substance to talk about smh.

  • @emmanuelmondesir1314
    @emmanuelmondesir1314 Před rokem

    Kd and Steph the modern day Magic and Kareem.

  • @chefrobbyp
    @chefrobbyp Před rokem

    What track athlete they talking aboht?

  • @briangreen1264
    @briangreen1264 Před rokem

    I think that this premise is deeply flawed. Shaq and Kobe, Kareem and Magic are top ten duo’s and we don’t diminish their champions that they won together.

  • @demetriclarke4194
    @demetriclarke4194 Před rokem

    Magic and Kareem won alot of rings together.... n both are on mount Rushmore....

  • @trueskool1977
    @trueskool1977 Před rokem +2

    Lol if the Lakers don't get a kyrie trade this season then they will be battling for a play in spot again this season. Their bench is 5x worse now than last season

  • @MrStruk17
    @MrStruk17 Před rokem

    One thing y'all keep missing.....The Warriors Fans don't need or want KD back in The Bay Area....we already been down that road and it ended with KD bailing on the team when he didn't get his way just like he is doing to Brooklyn right now ....we Love KD but that energy that comes with him is too much 💯✌🏾🙏🏿