Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving to blame for Nets fallout? | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2022
- Kevin Durant has reportedly requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. This news comes on the heels of Kyrie Irving flirting with the possibility of leaving Brooklyn for LA to join the Los Angeles Lakers. Durant has 4 years remaining on his deal. Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho ponder who is to blame for the Brooklyn Nets fallout.
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Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving to blame for Nets fallout? | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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Who's to blame for Nets fallout: Kyrie or KD? 👀
Neither it’s a failure of management they don’t know how to corral these players you talk about player movement and freedom yet you still have to take an account what the organization needs and want are
Neither I blame management
I Am to be blame. I am part of the problem. I bought the tickets.
KD
This is Kyrie's fault mostly. This is his 3rd time doing this to a team. When they show you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!
This show is underrated
Facts bro
Very
Best sports show on tv
Unfortunately
It is.
On a separate statement, this show exemplifies moral behavior, life lessons, intellectual counter arguments & inside sports knowledge. It's not messy which limits its appeal to the common audience. It's high level thoughts which further limit its appeal lol
By the way I rocks with everything this show has to offer because I'm cut from that same cloth.
Jason Whitlock tried it (I'm not cut from his cloth) but he got way too political lol
This is one of the only sports shows that actually has intellectual discussions with no emotional rants and yelling back and forth. Hands down the best right now. 💪🏽💪🏽
Cause u have actual athletes and not a bunch of talking heads
Dis guy Acho talked for like 5 min with no facts just emotion bro
what has been proven is that KD will never be a Number 1....he is soft and can never lead and all this team swapping shows weakness he is out of the top 15..
Honestly this show and First things First are both really great. The latter being that they have great chemistry, just like these 2.
Facts. I love this two to death. They are my fav duo on sports TV
They need to start uploading the WHOLE SHOW again
Best line was "He's got championship talent but 1st round exit mindset"
... 'character'... but I agree, best line of the show
kd was in finals before warriors
i call it the russell westbrook
@@ojoj5194 warriors won before kd and after kd lol he salty asf rn
@@jspi04 shut up king von killer, go back in the project and keep killin ppl as ur dad did
I like how they both make entertaining arguments and never get disrespectful or personal.
Great point
They scared to fist fight
@Andre Carter I meant with respect to the players. There's no Bosh Spice here.
@Andre Carter ugud
These guys need prime-time they do it right. They're not yelling, they are using great analogies anybody can relate to. Way underrated, and they keep it real.
Emmanuel Acho is going to be a superstar journalist, writer if he is not one already. Enjoyed listening to this dude. I even enjoy listening to him more cos he tries to say it the way it is.
Yes he already is
He’s already a star. Dude won an Emmy and been on the show for less than two years I think.
Nahh he went woke. I’m waiting for him to dye his hair purple and change his pronouns
This is my favorite show these are some smart men with great perspectives and can actually argue their points.
KD gets some blame but the Majority goes to Kyrie because he can't be trusted period. To make matters worse KD and Kyrie said that they don't need a coach how did that look.
KD didn’t say that Kyrie did
And Kyrie didn't need a coach. Anyone could have done better than Nash including Kyrie so he was right. As for whose fault is is the Nets management. They got them hand delivered and then ran them off. Ride it out after all your the Nets. THE NETS! You were given your success. Management didn't earn it. Now they lost it
You two are the best. Always filled with poignant examples and insight.
I love the Analogies on this show! 😊
I need an analogy for how good these analogies are!
When these guys actually talk genuinely and they're not being corny, it's much easier to appreciate the fact that Acho is a very intelligent person.
I agree with Marcellus, at some point you have to be a professional and keep the agreement you made with KD in the beginning.
Shame on KD for believing him after seeing what he was like beforehand.
@@Raven.Bloodrot and shame on kyrie for being a snowflake
Honestly good point too. But I just feel it's a circus there. KD had to play & had 3 All Stars that couldn't put in same energy, Harden; Kyrie & then Ben Simmons too. Getting Kyrie & Simmons on court is a battle and if your relying on them, that enough of a headache.
Everyone is to blame. This is a perfect example of why u can't give players this much power.
Everyone except Lebron. He had one miss which was Russ. That's it.
Exactly
Yep, another one is the Lakers
@@PaperCutRhymesPhD Lmao. Ya let's ignore him getting coaches fired, players traded, and then leaving the franchises in dust when he decides to jump to another team to chase rings and making players worse under his system. 😂😂😂 I'll give you this though, he doesn't ask to be traded in the middle of his contract. That's admirable!
@@PaperCutRhymesPhD Slurping Very Hard I see...
As DMX said "Always trust a person because he can't change himself" Kryie is the perfect example
Kyrie is a champ thanks to LeBron being determined
yall were on a roll with the metaphors today
I realized yesterday that it's really KD to blame for it all. Here's why: If it wasn't for KD STRONGLY backing Kyrie to come with him, then the Nets ownership would've fired/moved Kyrie a long time ago for his bad behavior. KD yesterday showed us that he didn't want to hoop anymore... at the Nets arena.... but he still wants to play with Kyrie. That means KD still backs Ky and his shenanigan's. So KD is to blame for it all, acting like all he wants to do is hoop, but doesn't take any responsibility to lead a championship team. Charles Barkley was right, he ain't a bus driver, he's a passenger 100%. Even Lebron won a chip with bad teammates. Tom Brady even won 1 SB with the Kyrie of the NFL, Antonio Brown. KD couldn't even get past the first round with top 3 scorers in the NBA. That's embarrassing and he needs to own it.
No, it's the nets.
I said Kyrie, but this is a strong argument, not gonna lie!
@@Christopher._M cant really blame them. If they decide not to sign them the nets would've been criticized. If they didn't do what KD and kyrie wanted they would get criticized. It was a no win situation for the Nets unless they came in and balled out....
With that being said KD nor Kyrie will ever win another title. Both of them dudes lack leadership.
I truly think they are both to blame.
I slept on these guys they bring intellectual perspective to their analysis. Much better than a lot of those analysts that rant and yell😂 new subscriber
They be spitting that facts no 🧢
Facts
That analogy about the substitute teacher by Acho was good...ain't going to lie...
I am a teacher and there most definitely are bad kids!
And parents that made them that way
I love these 2 dudes. Acho is the preacher and cell is the story teller
If you don’t see how Kyrie is at fault then I just can’t help you. The GM, owner, and teammates of Kyrie Irving cannot predict that there will be a global pandemic and that people will riot at the Capitol. Every other person had a normal response to the situation. Kyrie did his normal BS of having to be a contrarian. They evaluate signing him based on how he affects a basketball team not how he reacts to every day life situations. If you want to blame someone else blame Kevin Durant for publicly backing Kyrie Irving. Without KD there is no Kyrie
On a sidenote the whole statement about there are no bad students just bad teachers is ridiculously false. There are plenty of bad students. Acho literally gave an example right after talking about people making it impossible to have a functional working environment . Kyrie Irving Is the definition of a bad student
Did the Nets ever win NBA championship? Both Kyrie and KD are champions before joining the Nets. Without them, this franchise is just a joke. So before you blame the star players, look at what this organisation has accomplished for the last 20 years. The Nets were bottom of the NBA food chain for many reasons. Management and ownership is part of that problem on why they were so bad, even with prime championship players, the whole franchise cannot deliver.
Awesome take🔥
@@BH-wq6mc KD + Kyrie have accomplished nothing as far as championships are concerned without LeBron James and Steph Curry. I seriously don’t understand the mental gymnastics it takes to see Kyrie flake in situations no one can anticipate and then put that on management. How can you win a championship if the players are not available?
@@RightStickRob
The situation with Covid wasn't standardized throughout the NBA. Teams like Heats, Suns, Mavericks, Spurs or Trailblazer, etc don't require their players to get vaccinated in order to play. Nets self imposed such rules to restrict Kyrie from playing. And are now denying him a max contract for following those rules. And painting the blame on him through the media. KD realised what was going on and got disillusioned towards this horrible organisation, that's why he wants to leave, because if the Nets can destroy Kyrie today, they can destroy KD or any other players on their payroll in the future. We live in the free world, no one should be subjected to such corporate tyranny. The Nets never win championships in the past for a reason, mismanagement, to blame everything on the players is so irresponsible. If you cannot see it, there's nothing else I can say.
This is the only sports-debate show that has legitimately insightful content that gives you understandings & knowledge of life outside of sports, indirectly. Acho drops bars so effortlessly.
Kyrie and KD are getting a Brooklyn Divorce,Sad week for them!😟
Mane these two and this shoe SO UNDERRATED! I swear they 15 min vids feel like a hour with how they go Into detail about shid ⭐️👏🏾
"Kyrie has CHAMPIONSHIP TALENT with FIRST ROUND EXIT CHARACTER".
Fam Acho with the Bar!
Facts!
I just love where these talks go. Such rich imagery and comparisons. They went from the school system to casinos to microwaves to holding the rope to then marriage snoring. I love it!
The only way I would hire Kyrie is if he only picks up his check at the end of each game and with deduction for missed games and missed practices.
Can't believe Acho let Wiley get away twice with pointing to Kyrie's one championship year and ignoring the debacle also at the Celtics... 🤦🏾♂️
And all the pre-LeBron years.
Beautifully articulated 👍
I love these guys. The show is indeed underrated
I have been listening to these 2 for a while, but I subscribed only today, the first 60 seconds made it inevitable
I really enjoy Emmanuel’s analysis! He is very intelligent and well spoken.
Blame goes all around but Sean Mark's was the GM.
Great points fellas🐐💪🏽
Great Convo💪🏾🔥🚀
The fact is that some kids and students are just bad. A parent or teacher can provide all the instructions and tools you need and still there are some ppl that stray or just don’t get it or just plain don’t care.
Excellent analysis of the current situation.
That analogy Acho just gave was beautiful. It was eloquent, reminisce and all factz. That brought me back. I was on both sides clowning and the one student mad. This made me think? If you were never that one student; have you ever tried? 🤷🏿♂️
These brothers are maybe the two smartest men talking sports on national tv.
Kyrie is fool's gold. He looks great but when you take a closer look, you realize that it doesn't have the value you were expecting. Lakers will be fine early on with Kyrie until he gets injured again or until they get on a losing streak. That's when Kyrie will start being his normal self and try to burn down the organization.
Wiley is a person that knows how to debate without having to disrespect anyone
I love how these guys interact; they're great!
Bruh Acho the GOAT… this show is neck and neck with inside the nba
Kyrie is mostly to blame because he’s constantly left the team hanging, but KD deserves some blame because he hasn’t held him as accountable as he should’ve. Another level of leadership was necessary from KD on this particular squad. He definitely led with his play for the most part, but holding guys accountable AND not quitting on your team as he’s doing right now would’ve spoken volumes concerning his maturity.
Understated comment. Durant def took backseat and played an onlooker in the biggest moments. If that was present or OD was that guy maybe harden sticks around.
I love these two together. Even tho I love Acho and the work he puts in, I don’t agree with every take he has. And even tho I love Wiley, I don’t agree with every take he has. Buts it’s the two of them working together that brings me back
Such a great show
Acho is a fantastic analyst. He has an incredibly logical mind and would have excelled in any endeavor, business or otherwise.
love you guys debate thank you for being YOU
I gotta give credit where it’s due… acho bodied that analogy
Great discussion.
Acho is Brilliant love this Guy.❤️❤️ 💯💯💯💯FACTS UPON FACTS.✌️❤️
This show is very good 👍🏾.
Politicians even lifted the mandate for Kyrie to play in playoffs, for nothing! 😆
Emmanuel Acho = Terry Crews with a fade.
I know the topic is what it is but what about the other players on the team. That really still falls on management
homie with the part was killing this take lmao
It’s not the owner fault Kyrie and Kd doing whatever tf they want to do.
Love Marcellus and acho
Been watching clips of this show more recently with undisputed off air and man, I’m a fan. These dudes are killing it
'When I lost that 48K there in Jersey' LMFAO Wiley a fool for real
A new sub here. I think better than Shannon & Skip. I really like these two brothas
Acho superceeded Marcel on the argument. The student is now the master.
One of the few times i’m on Marcelus’ side. Lol Acho reaching with this one. This is not a relationship that you can say that since The team knew then they can’t blame Kyrie. This is employment on the biggest basketball stage. Whatever personal issues you’ve got, don’t bring that to work. It affects not only your team but also your teammates.
Acho Stay bringing up this mans life lol
Best show but we don’t wanna say it because they might not work as hard if we give them compliments 😂
I just want these two to handle every issue in sports. They use logic and make arguments based on the same. They don't make an argument the center of their points, they "explore" the issues together, like Acho said.
Let this be a cautionary tale for the NBA about the pros and cons of player empowerment.
Brooklyn gave too much control to KD and Kyrie, it looked good at first but inevitably capitulated.
Acho is so right. Yes, the owner is to be blamed.
Much respect guys. Acho them with that knowledge. 😂😂😂✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿
Acho, love ya man, here's the thing of why lottery winners mostly end up broke. There is a different mindset between some one who wants money and some one who has money. The wanting person is in acquisition mode. The person who already has is first a foremost in protection mode. Those in acquisition mode often do not see this difference when they cross over to having money. Rich folks first and foremost protect that money. Sure most want to make it grow bigger but first and foremost they want to make sure they never have to live in acquisition mode. Many folks who get big money don't see that difference and so they continue with acquisition mode. They are used to spending all or most of what they have and so when big money comes they do the same thing. They do not know to change gears and go into protection and growth mode.
So the biggest reason for those who quickly receive wealth going broke again is because they do not understand the change in circumstance requires a change in attitude and perspective. Sad but true. Many perhaps most just can not change gears when the big money comes.
Never knew you could use situation so many times. Get that money bro.
This whole thing starts with them hiring Steve Nash. They never responded to him. If Nash was a tougher coach I don't think harden or kd would have left. Players ain't leaving a coach they respect and look up to.
My junior year in high school math we had a substitute teacher the whole year. Needless to say I had to retake that class.
This is what happens when you let players run things…
Good point but even greater Stephen A Smith impersonation 🤣🤣🤣
Props to Joe Tsai finally finding his ba*** and putting a stop to the shenanigans.
Regained leverage...going to to part with the toxicity.
Start over.
This guys just know how to talk 🔥
Sounds like a situation. 😂
Best talk show ever
Acho is on 🔥in this segment
Nah, sometimes there are bad kids and bad students. It's not all on teachers, parents and coaching, at a certain point a person has to take accountability for their own actions, not blame their issues on others.
This show is great
Great analogy by acho
Acho is absolutely right, Kyrie showed everybody exactly who he is. We all got caught up in his layup packages and handles.
Charles was right KD always been a bus rider.
And Charles Barkley's bus ran out of gas...he can't talk
I like the content on this channel.
There is nothing in life I hate more than a Wiley lip smack 😭
The Heat had Wade and a Pat Riley protege in Sporlstra before the brought in Lebron and Bosh. The Nets had no type of nucleus before they got these guys
ironic how kd just wanted to hoop but got with kyrie and harden
one didn't want to hoop and the other couldn't b/c of injuries
wanna slow burn it like the ravens with 1 playoff win since 2018 or microwave it like the rams and go to 2 chips. both have relatively the same amount of wins in the same time frame.
achoo , you and shannon is da BEST!
Ummmm. Front office and owners period.
It’s management & kyrie and KD okay’ing the harden trade .. that trade put us in the same spot nets was in with Pierceand them boys. Gave up picks and depth for a couple months of hardeb
AS REAL AS THE DAY IS LONG!
Nets might be losing some guys but if they keep getting crazy good trade packages back then they will be better off then they were to start with. They should get a ton for KD after what Gobert went for n the fact Kyrie opted in so now they can ship him wherever also they should get a nice return on top of Simmons n Curry etc they already got for Harden who looked Washed really
Harden is washed. He has that one good game in the playoffs and that's it.
@@bweise3 Yep like the Harden trade looked great come playoffs when he was a shell n KD is 33 so if they can get anywhere close to the 4-5 1st rounds that Gobert went for on top of like 4 players that was an INSANE package for 1 guy
I like both takes, but Acho's take about Kyrie resonates with me more. Yeah, Kyrie is a head case, but he has shown us this time and time again. Accept people for who they are and peep their pattern of behavior. This show is great.