[4K] Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection PS4 Pro/PS4 Analysis + Frame-Rate Test

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    Tom and Rich sit down to check out all three games in the Ezio Collection on PS4 Pro, stacking them up quickly against the PS4 version. It's a native 4K, but what's going on when you play the game with Pro attached to a 1080p screen?
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Komentáře • 704

  • @Clairvoyant81
    @Clairvoyant81 Před 7 lety +119

    It's hard to believe that noone involved in this remaster had the thought "let's do supersampling for 1080p" or "let's do 60FPS for 1080p, if possible". I mean.... that's not exactly a far-fetched idea.

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety +5

      Clairvoyant81 maybe it's not as easy as you say - the engine may be tied to a 30fps cap - as its. The console versions ported with pc textures - if that's the case then getting it unchained from the cap would be w lot of work and could break a lot. Also - supersampling may not be possibly for some reason? We have seen a few games be pro enabled without it, batman, dishonored, last of us, division, overwatch etc... Maybe Sony has contacted devs and told them the fans just want 1080p as that's what all the moaning people have been asking for.
      And now we get decent rates on 1080p the same people complain that the supersampling has gone

    • @Clairvoyant81
      @Clairvoyant81 Před 7 lety +1

      Turniplord
      The game runs perfectly fine at 30FPS in 4K. Downsampling that 4K image to 1080p would be a supersampled 1080p at 30FPS. Doesn't seem all that complex, since down- and upscaling images is something GPUs are very, very good at.
      Also, since the AC games run with unlimited frame rates on PC, I doubt upping the frame rate on the console version would break all that much, if anything.

    • @exaltedb
      @exaltedb Před 7 lety +1

      Turniplord these 3 games were built in the Anvil engine, not AnvilNext

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety

      Clairvoyant81 yeah I know - but the amount of people moaning that all they want is a 1080p machine and even DF moaning at almost every supersampled game (fair enough they were fixed - but about a week after DF posts a video basically shaming them which must have a knock on sales) - maybe Sony and the devs don't want that anymore and just thought 'fuck it 1080p only on a 1080p tv and 4K mode on a 4K tv' - there is no other reason why they would strip out that option otherwise. If it was just one game it may have been a mistake or a glitch - but more are doing it now.
      The devs can't please anyone. Moaning because it's not native 4K, moaning because when supersampled from a higher res with more graphic options it runs 1-3fps slower than the 1080p version on ps4 in a few stressed places, moaning that the unlocked framerate isn't hitting 60 constantly and only fluctuating etc.....
      And now people are upset that they have heard the complaints and acted on them and they are unhappy because they have done what the noisy and disruptive ones have been asking for.

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Před 7 lety +1

      With the number of locked 30 FPS titles, even at 1080p on the Pro, I'm thinking that developers are running into a bottleneck in the form of the tablet-level CPUs used in the consoles, even when clocked higher in the Pro. You run into a similar, though not as severe situation when trying to run a modern game with a good GPU and an old/slow CPU like the Phenom, the GPU ends up being bottlenecked by the CPU, especially in CPU-reliant situations like a bazaar full of pathing NPCs.

  • @Kait0s
    @Kait0s Před 7 lety +644

    Why not 60fps on 1080p mode? Wtf ubisoft...

    • @notlekrut
      @notlekrut Před 7 lety +77

      That CPU is a bottleneck and a reason devs don't usually go to 60fps, at least not without big optimizations and changes. So it is a lot easier to push a higher resolution instead of frame rate.

    • @GarryChenYT
      @GarryChenYT Před 7 lety +114

      What are u talkin about
      It runs perfectly on my PC at 60fps from years ago
      They just taking advantage of using 4K buzzword

    • @MamoMark
      @MamoMark Před 7 lety +2

      notlekrut Seeing how they might be PC ports to PS4 makes me wonder why it isn't 60 without any issues. Unless they aren't which would be weird to use the console versions as the source.

    • @TggTechTalk
      @TggTechTalk Před 7 lety +5

      I know AC2 was capped at 30 but the others weren't so I don't see why it shouldn't be able to 1440p 60 even a 750ti can do that hell the game should be probs even 4k 60

    • @TheLenny655
      @TheLenny655 Před 7 lety +13

      +Kaledonia23 you do realise i played this at 60fps on my laptop back in 2011

  • @HShango
    @HShango Před 7 lety +63

    these are the games that made me fall in love with ac in the very first place.

    • @princepeachfuzz
      @princepeachfuzz Před 4 lety +4

      Also what made me hate the new AC games in the first place

  • @oiausdlkasuldhflaksjdhoiausydo

    This freaking game got me addicted to classical history and art. I absolutely love this series.

  • @sev2300
    @sev2300 Před 7 lety +66

    Dishonored 2 no supersampling, no benefit for 1080p TV owners; The last Guardian no supersampling, no option for 1080p TV owners; Ezio Collection, no supersampling, no benefit for 1080p TV owners; The last of us no supersampling anymore and no benefit for 1080p TV owners. I bet the list will get even longer in the near future.

    • @alduinbaneofkings7704
      @alduinbaneofkings7704 Před 7 lety

      Tom Riddler who buys a pro for 1080p? i would buy a pc for 1080p and pro for 4k

    • @reyesarsenal9
      @reyesarsenal9 Před 7 lety +14

      Those who wants higher quality and more stable games at 1080p?

    • @alduinbaneofkings7704
      @alduinbaneofkings7704 Před 7 lety +1

      The Donald but the main goal of the pro is a higher resolution for a low price. and btw the funny thing is that on pro u can change some settings xD

    • @coconutthief1316
      @coconutthief1316 Před 7 lety +2

      No, no supersampling for Uncharted 4, but Multiplayer gives 1080p 60fps instead of regular 900p.
      @Tom Riddler Last of Us gets better shadows tho xD Not much, i know, but maybe they'll patch it again.

    • @CrimsonGear80
      @CrimsonGear80 Před 7 lety +1

      Tom Riddler oh jeez, you mean you have to deal with a crystal-clear native 1080p??? Oh,poor baby, do you need a hug?

  • @DandyDNA
    @DandyDNA Před 7 lety +279

    30fps remasters and remakes should be outlawed...

    • @hbadger2796
      @hbadger2796 Před 4 lety +8

      I’m fine with 30 FPS as long as it’s stable and consistent, i only care about 60-144fps on multiplayer games

    • @Jack_80
      @Jack_80 Před 4 lety +8

      @@hbadger2796 i swear if there was a blind test of 20 games randomly playing in eith a consistant 30 or a consistant 60, a lot of these people would probably guess half of them wrong. people are just brainwashed by numbers i swear. even though 1080p looked amazing to everyone for years, now people say it's completely unplsyable or unwatchable if it's not in 4k. then a year after 8k or whatever becomes normal you'll see people saying anything only in 4k is unwatchable,,/unplayable. it's a never ending cycle of numbers programming people into buying constant upgrades for everything. the masses are so easily msnipulated.

    • @explosivx43
      @explosivx43 Před 4 lety +37

      @@Jack_80 if you can't tell apart 30 fps from 60 fps, i think you need professional help

    • @Jack_80
      @Jack_80 Před 4 lety +1

      @@explosivx43 then in a year or 2 people will say i can't play a game if it's not 120 fps, it makes me sick. and after playing 120fps for 5 years and 240 or whatever gets more common, they'll say i can't play a game in 120fps, it makes me sick. it's a never ending cycle. maybe i could tell the difference if they were side by side, but i certainly wouldn't find the difference as significant as most people seem to. i played the uncharted remasters on ps4 that i'm pretty sure jumped from 30 to 60 and to me movement felt, and looked far more janky than the ps3 version. maybe that's because it wasn't originally designed for 60 so just bumping it up makes it awkward or something, but looked and felt glitchy and never felt that wsy in the originals.

    • @TruTrae
      @TruTrae Před 3 lety +1

      @@Jack_80 resolution is something that can be unnoticed due to anti aliasing and upscaling techniques.
      Framerate can only be made less obvious with good motion blur and animation but not everyone likes motion blur as it can mess with the look of the game. Higher framerates don’t just make a game look better it also makes a game play better unlike resolution.

  • @Tekanova
    @Tekanova Před 7 lety +56

    Revelations has always looked gorgeous, and it still looks gorgeous 5 years later.
    It had such a good art direction.

  • @deniciocampozano-hill2147
    @deniciocampozano-hill2147 Před 7 lety +43

    I know ACII and brotherhood may look dated, but just appreciate that they got remastered.*

    • @nitishaggarwal3739
      @nitishaggarwal3739 Před 2 lety

      It's nice but dumbass ubi mfers forgot that in 2016 not everyone got the 4k displays and it was just started not common in that time, so they should have made it 60 fps on 1080p , like last of us remastered did

  • @emanuelgottig9068
    @emanuelgottig9068 Před 7 lety +94

    Man, if only every remaster could be like Metro Redux...
    Granted, it doesn't have 4K support or any other BS like that, but it runs at perfect 1080p and 60fps, and the first game was actually remade with the new mechanics from the second game, like improved stealth. Plus, the games are still gorgeous.
    Seriously, go get Metro Redux. It's excelent.

    • @iwinulose2460
      @iwinulose2460 Před 6 lety +1

      Emanuel Gottig Metro Redux doesnt have texture improvent, shadows because of that reach 60 fps

    • @SellingSouls
      @SellingSouls Před 4 lety +3

      @@iwinulose2460 Uhh, yes, it have, are you blind? Textures, lighting, draw distance, etc.

  • @sebastianvangen
    @sebastianvangen Před 7 lety +23

    DigitalFoundry you doing it well. Do not let the haters take you. They have no reason to subscribe to you if they acting like that.

    • @iden01
      @iden01 Před 7 lety +13

      Negnav123 They are suggesting ways to improve, if the subscribers want content and they're not getting it they have a right to complain.

  • @ShankThTank
    @ShankThTank Před 7 lety +74

    Man I'd sure love to see the following PC analysis of these recently released titles:
    Dead Rising 4
    Steep
    Watch Dogs 2
    Resident Evil 7 demo
    Dishonored 2 patch analysis
    I guess some PC videos would be too much to ask for though.

    • @holdtehmayo
      @holdtehmayo Před 7 lety +11

      What would they say? "The frame rates & graphics vary depending on your hardware." x5
      I'll give you Dishonoured 2 though. The PC port was dire.

    • @EchoDissolve
      @EchoDissolve Před 7 lety +22

      Sorry, this channel is PS4 Pro only.

    • @Levdrekinn
      @Levdrekinn Před 7 lety +4

      No it's not. It's every piece of tech that has to do with video games, you bozzoh.

    • @princedizzy7256
      @princedizzy7256 Před 7 lety +1

      PC IS DED THO

    • @christianpathfinder6864
      @christianpathfinder6864 Před 6 lety

      Paul Beenis the Parrot they favor PlayStation tom is a fanboy

  • @TheMrromanthx
    @TheMrromanthx Před 7 lety +221

    This just proves that graphics aren't everything. Outdated graphics but still so much more fun compared to the newer games. Would take these games over Unity every time...

    • @TheSwapan48
      @TheSwapan48 Před 7 lety +9

      Play unity in native 4k ultra.....Trust me you'll fall in love with the graphcs bt yeah these games were really fun

    • @TheMrromanthx
      @TheMrromanthx Před 7 lety +26

      Blazing Thunder I don't care about graphics if the game is shit.

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 Před 7 lety +19

      Sure the graphics will look good...
      but the FUCKING BUGS!!!
      Floating people
      People with MISSING faces and limbs
      TERRIBLE framerate no matter what platform you play on.

    • @TheMrromanthx
      @TheMrromanthx Před 7 lety +6

      Jonah Brown Most of those have been fixed a long time ago. Game is still shit though...

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 Před 7 lety +11

      Archangel Hmm... I played it a month ago and it was DEFINITELY not fixed

  • @princedizzy3506
    @princedizzy3506 Před 7 lety +46

    Great to see native 4K support on a $400 Console, loving the Pro content DF, more please.

    • @pizzagamecube2564
      @pizzagamecube2564 Před 7 lety +25

      What a suck up.

    • @princedizzy3506
      @princedizzy3506 Před 7 lety +15

      Sorry but this is exactly the kind of content i subscribed for, i tried to watch a PC benchmark video once but it sent me straight to sleep lol

    • @samrod4688
      @samrod4688 Před 7 lety

      Prince Dizzy get ready for switch and scorpio

    • @Who-Uhm-Cares
      @Who-Uhm-Cares Před 7 lety +11

      Prince Dizzy How? Is it because you can't afford a PC? If anything Ps4 Pro vids put me to sleep and I own one.

    • @UnknownUser-fg3fs
      @UnknownUser-fg3fs Před 7 lety +14

      Prince Dizzy lol typical console peasants are happy with anything

  • @sebotrp
    @sebotrp Před 7 lety +177

    Is this the holy grail of shitty remasters?

    • @AgsmaJustAgsma
      @AgsmaJustAgsma Před 7 lety +16

      The Bioshock Colection is also a big contender.

    • @constanzabestest
      @constanzabestest Před 7 lety +9

      This, Bioshock Collection and PROTOTYPE 2 remaster is like the unholy trinity of terrible remasters. Avoid like a plague.

    • @ArabianFreedom
      @ArabianFreedom Před 7 lety +26

      You people never knew about Silent Hill HD collection?
      Worst "remaster" in gaming.

    • @AgsmaJustAgsma
      @AgsmaJustAgsma Před 7 lety +2

      The Sillent Hill Collection is a breed of its own caused by a terrible mistake. The other remasters in general are just pure laziness.

    • @OwtDaftUK
      @OwtDaftUK Před 7 lety

      I love HD remasters and I have bought loads of them and I loved Silent Hill. I didn't get the Silent Hill collection. Nuff said.

  • @MrGamer1992
    @MrGamer1992 Před 7 lety +18

    The reason why this game still runs 30 fps in 1080p on PS4 Pro is because 30 fps is more cinematic

    • @alduinbaneofkings7704
      @alduinbaneofkings7704 Před 7 lety +3

      MrGamer1992 hahahahahaha

    • @MrGamer1992
      @MrGamer1992 Před 7 lety +3

      I was making a joke since a few years back, they stated that the reason they don't aim 60 fps is because, to them, 30 fps feels more cinematic. They didn't want to admit that the consoles are too underpowered to run 60 fps.

    • @Lucrei.
      @Lucrei. Před 5 lety

      @@MrGamer1992 The hillarious thing is, if it were really to emulate cinema they'd cap the frames at 24fps :P
      So you can tell it's totally bull from the illogical nature of the statement, regardless of how shit an excuse it is anyway

  • @sachoslks
    @sachoslks Před 3 lety +5

    Man to me the games look pretty cool in 4k, not old at all. Still holds up to my eyes!

  • @revelator3665
    @revelator3665 Před 2 lety +4

    This deserve native 4k@60 on series X consoles.

    • @RetroniOS
      @RetroniOS Před 2 lety +1

      Ubisoft don't give a shit. So we need to wait 'till MS acquires it.

    • @smellojello8214
      @smellojello8214 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah and Ps5

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 Před 7 lety +40

    Great video as always guys. I can't believe what a lazy port this is. How much work would it take to make it run at 1080p 60fps! None! Just take the limiter off! Classic Ubisoft.

  • @xxxMC1xxx
    @xxxMC1xxx Před 7 lety +28

    DigitalFoundry PRO

  • @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
    @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu Před 7 lety +6

    Sony should put downsampling in an firmware update. So when the ps4 is set to 4k mode, or make another alternate mode, it automatically downsamples for all games.
    So 1080p users can make use of all the different options in games. for when the developers don't bother to implement it themselves.

  • @darkroronoa
    @darkroronoa Před 7 lety +30

    If it was not for the retro content i would have unsubscribed for real, and i will probably will. I am subscribed on this channel for technical videos, ps4 videos are interesting but i want pc too. Im tired of these, looks like a ps4 promotional channel.

    • @sherwinobenza4531
      @sherwinobenza4531 Před 7 lety +6

      awww, butthurt again?

    • @thenostalgicslav7386
      @thenostalgicslav7386 Před 7 lety +1

      Well PS4 is the only console with the 4k PRO option. Also did you miss out the criticism that the 1080p mode has no benefit whatsoever on the pro. No downsampling whatsoever. Looks like you miss the entire point of the videos comparing Pro games to the original PS4.

    • @darkroronoa
      @darkroronoa Před 7 lety +9

      I am actually watching some parts of every video because i do find them interesting ocassionally. My problem is that i want PC content too, last video with PC content was a month ago.

    • @thenostalgicslav7386
      @thenostalgicslav7386 Před 7 lety +2

      True but then I think it is a lot of console stuff right now because there's a lot of new releases this season and a lot of stuff console hardware related. Similar thing happened with PC when the RX 460/70/80 and GTX 1060/70/80 released as well as the Vulkan API.

    • @darkroronoa
      @darkroronoa Před 7 lety +3

      and here it is gentlemen, the quality of the console fanboys

  • @Tryte
    @Tryte Před 7 lety +39

    My PC can easily run Revelations at 4K 60fps maxed out with like 40% of the GPU load to spare, this should be able to do the same with console optimisation and if not, I'd at least expect 1080p 60fps with that horrific pop-in removed.

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety +3

      it was a port, not a remaster or remake - so they didn't change any of the core mechanics. Chances are they wouldn't have hit a constant 60fps at 4k as well, so they decided to lock at a solid 30.

    • @Tryte
      @Tryte Před 7 lety +3

      Turniplord Optimisation doesn't change the core mechanics. Upping the frame rate doesn't change the core mechanics. This is just simple laziness from developers trying to milk a cash cow of Ubisoft's golden years with minimal effort and spending. If the PC version runs 4K maxed out 60fps (or near 60) with the same price range, then so should the consoles.

    • @Yodagamer1
      @Yodagamer1 Před 6 lety +1

      You cpu is probably far better than the ps4 which is often the issue on these consoles.

    • @HeavyMetalGamingHD
      @HeavyMetalGamingHD Před 5 lety

      @@Yodagamer1 yes these are crowded open world games. the good ol' jags might be too weak for this, because they are pretty weak. A older i5 has way more power. if this is the case, this game would still not be able to hit 60fps in 240p

  • @ormancadam6453
    @ormancadam6453 Před 7 lety +12

    I like the fact that there are mountains and elevation at the background on assassin creed 2. kinda creates the feeling like its a real place. Regardless of the fact that it maybe a flat texture it looks convincing enough. But for some reason recent titles like AC unity and syndicate all have a flat horizon with no features to see beyond city silhouette. It looks super fake and breaks the immersion.

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney Před 4 lety

      I think that's cause those mountains are actually around Florence in real life whereas I'm pretty sure no such mountains exist around Paris

    • @ormancadam6453
      @ormancadam6453 Před 4 lety +1

      @@CianMcsweeney But thats not the point. İf not mountains there could be hills, rivers etc. some terrain featureless
      Nothing in real life looks flat and lifeless as that.

    • @xman777b
      @xman777b Před 3 lety

      @@ormancadam6453 ever been to Hamilton Ontario? Anyway, I think your issue is with World Geography, rather than Ubisoft

  • @Salty.Peasants
    @Salty.Peasants Před 7 lety +17

    they need to release a patch for 1800p60fps like the last of us

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety +1

      PANTS Peasents Always Need Salt they probably can't. As it was most likely the prev gen console version but with high pc textures , the gameplay is probably coded around the framerate. - so unlocking it may Cause the game to break.
      Plus they will be too buy in the new Ac now

    • @Salty.Peasants
      @Salty.Peasants Před 7 lety +2

      This is a complete remaster, probably from the PC version as they even fixed bugs from the previous gen version. This game is probably getting around 40fps at native 4k, at 1800p it would be between 50/60fps, much better IMO. I have an 80" 4k TV. I saw almost no difference, "a very small one", when running the Last of Us at 4k vs 1800p, the 60fps option made it more worth while, now its 60fps locked with the latest patch. I can see even AC4 being patched to support the Pro, as it's native 1080p on the PS4. 1800p60ps should be easy on most last gen game ports. Most AAA last gen games could run at near 4k60fps with the PS4 Pro patch: FFX God of War III Uncharted Collection Metal Gear Solid 4 Kingdom Hearts HD Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Mero Redux Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Fight Night Round 4/Champion Devil May Cry HD Collection Ninja Gaiden Sigma Folklore Gran Turismo 6 Heavenly Sword Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection God of War: Ascension... Grand Theft Auto IV just got patch, could be an indication that there will be a simple console port. PS4 Pro should be capable of rendering it at 1400p60fps.

    • @Big_Tuna81
      @Big_Tuna81 Před 7 lety +1

      PANTS Peasents Always Need Salt Ubisoft never listens even if they so they do they don't

  • @ElusiveSights
    @ElusiveSights Před 7 lety +13

    *watching this in 144p*

  • @robtennant98
    @robtennant98 Před 3 lety +4

    Disappointing the game isn’t in 4K on Xbox One X

  • @VideosbySteve
    @VideosbySteve Před 7 lety +18

    Wait for the remastered remaster on PS5 for 60fps. (Nah, itll probably be 8K/30fps.)

    • @Lucrei.
      @Lucrei. Před 5 lety

      Good joke! :')
      Probably a good call though sadly... priorities all outta whack

    • @AlphaladZXA
      @AlphaladZXA Před 5 lety +2

      Probably have ps4 backwards compatibility and probably have a way to force 60fps who knows

    • @NoBrainah
      @NoBrainah Před 4 lety +2

      8k/15fps

    • @TheeCambion
      @TheeCambion Před 3 lety

      @@AlphaladZXA it does.

    • @AceticTWO
      @AceticTWO Před 3 lety

      8k30fps lmao

  • @TrayDTV
    @TrayDTV Před 7 lety +24

    omg a native 4k remaster on a game from 6 years ago say it isn't so and only 30fps how do the guys and gals @ ubisoft keep breaking these gaming barriers

    • @MegaLPlover
      @MegaLPlover Před 7 lety +1

      TrayDTV yeah i was confused. ubi said it had dynamic 4k resolution but DF is saying its native

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety +1

      it probably drops to a lower res when you hit a lot of action - all the scenes they were in were quite peaceful.

  • @sp1ssmuss
    @sp1ssmuss Před 7 lety +7

    I came to see the witty comments implying this has become a ps4 channel

  • @MancaveCentral1
    @MancaveCentral1 Před 7 lety +2

    As a 4K TV owner I'm glad there's a Pro. It opens up the console exclusives to me as opposed to skipping them due to the excessive jaggies and poor resolution that are worse now that I game on PC in 4K. I can't take gamers or reviewers seriously about demanding "better" 1080p gaming when the Pro is targeted at 4K TV owners and Sony clearly did not establish improved 1080p visuals as a mandate. Just because a few devs did it, and did it incredibly well, doesn't mean it's a requirement across the board.

  • @SPLWF
    @SPLWF Před 7 lety +4

    Who here is in love with this series OST?

  • @RawHeat100
    @RawHeat100 Před 7 lety +8

    my ps4 pro was a mistake taking it back to Wal-Mart

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 Před 7 lety +3

      The pro is barely getting started. Watch Horizon Zero Dawn pro gameplay.

    • @samrod4688
      @samrod4688 Před 7 lety +4

      WH250398 at 30fps

    • @samrod4688
      @samrod4688 Před 7 lety +3

      Punch Down King doesn't mean shit if graphics are ass and outdated

    • @19HajimeSaitou91
      @19HajimeSaitou91 Před 7 lety +1

      Ray Pen so you have bought PRO for Ezio Trilogy? You're an idiot

  • @constanzabestest
    @constanzabestest Před 7 lety +13

    Does this game make PS4 Pro sound like a Jet Engine?

  • @lakibadhikari7930
    @lakibadhikari7930 Před 7 lety +8

    WTF? no benefit of using the pro on a 1080p screen? makes you feel like they are trying to force people into buying 4K TVs for their PS4 pro

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety +2

      tbh, other than downsampling, there isn't really much else they could do without implementing new graphical settings - I'm guessing this was a quick release to fill the lack of AC this year. For all we know, when you get to more stressful areas it may drop below 30 on the PS4 but not on the pro - DF only explored the starting areas, later on in the game it gets a bit more manic

  • @Dick_Valparaiso
    @Dick_Valparaiso Před 7 lety +9

    Maybe add 900p/60fps for base PS4, and 1440/60 for Pro.
    I don't think this is too much to ask since this collection seems to be selling decently. If Square Enix is working on a 1080/60 patch for FF15, Ubisoft can give this collection a bit more attention. The 30fps cap and $60 price were my main complaints.

  • @mmiyahki
    @mmiyahki Před 7 lety +9

    Yeah analyse a fuckin fossil instead of some descent pc games.
    "Digital Foundry specialises in game technology and hardware reviews."
    Is ps4 pro, the only piece of hardware in this earth?

    • @mmiyahki
      @mmiyahki Před 7 lety +4

      PC is not a single damn hardware ..

    • @Daigon95
      @Daigon95 Před 7 lety

      Nothing really "Hot" tht has been released on PC or Console right now. SO I can c why their is so much vids on Pro. I predict they will make the hell out of vids on the Switch once it releases. (or at least a lil bit soon once January 12th and 13th come)

  • @elrey1717
    @elrey1717 Před 7 lety +5

    ppl so stupid complaining about this nice remastered.....this remastered on my 4k samsung 55 uhd 6300 looks amazing.i dont care what you thing i am replaying this game with 4k resolution.

  • @MariusUrucu
    @MariusUrucu Před 7 lety +1

    What price is this collection sold for? I'm asking this, because you can get the Assassin's Creed Bronze Pack on PC (at least on Uplay), which features the exact same games in the Ezio Collection, right now... for 10 dollars/euros... That seems like a lot better value. And you don't even need that good of a PC to run those games...

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 Před 7 lety

      Marius Urucu On the PS store i seen it on sale for $59.99

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 Před 7 lety

      €50 here

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu Před 7 lety

      +Jonah Brown That's a lot of money... I know there are 3 games and it might seem like good value... but there is the Assassin's Creed Bronze Pack... which is just like the Ezio Collection, on sale (on Uplay at least...) for 10 euros on PC... Look it up, I'm not making this up...

    • @gabelogan1282
      @gabelogan1282 Před 7 lety

      Marius Urucu Full price when it came out but might drop in price around the holidays

    • @hamndv
      @hamndv Před 7 lety

      yah but you need $1000 to play on 4k 60 fps and 635784 bs.

  • @HenryTownsmyth
    @HenryTownsmyth Před 7 lety +16

    1:58 Rock solid 30 fps, that's what we wanted." Tom
    No we didn't want that, we wanted 1080p/60fps and being a tech channel calling 30fps rock solid is a shame but you guys are determined to call it that way for some unknown reasons.

    • @John_Stur
      @John_Stur Před 6 lety

      Henry Townsmyth Actually *we*, as the majority of console gamers, wanted native 4k and a stable frame rate. Be it 30 or 60, who cares? We played the whole last gen in 30 fps, no one cares. If you want better framerate performance you get a PC and open the console only for exclusives...

    • @jameslove1162
      @jameslove1162 Před 6 lety

      He wasn't calling 30fps "rock solid", he said "rock solid 30fps" in the sense that the frame rate stays constant and doesn't drop. Though I agree, we didn't want it to be 30fps.

    • @UltraCasualPenguin
      @UltraCasualPenguin Před 6 lety

      1080p tv is fine for normal tv stuff but for everything else... aren't those a bit 2000s already? You can't even get one anymore or at least not correct size (50" and bigger).

  • @TheNBKiller
    @TheNBKiller Před 6 lety +2

    I'm pretty sure the facial animation software, used in AC2, was also used in Mass Effect Andromeda

  • @snchez2106
    @snchez2106 Před 7 lety +5

    Richard: "Hellouuuuu!" Hahahaha.

  • @cifer8070
    @cifer8070 Před 5 lety +2

    It should have been 60 fps 1080p

  • @Archangel96
    @Archangel96 Před 3 lety +2

    damn amd jaguar cores limiting xbox 360/ps3 to 30 on ps4/4 pro like that is not ok

  • @dissidentjv5887
    @dissidentjv5887 Před 7 lety +2

    digital foundry is now PS4pro foundry

    • @thenostalgicslav7386
      @thenostalgicslav7386 Před 7 lety +4

      Wow, so original..not like the PS4 has 2 different consoles with different specs where games can have different performances or anything..

    • @19HajimeSaitou91
      @19HajimeSaitou91 Před 7 lety

      dissident du jeu video shut up

  • @swylll
    @swylll Před rokem +1

    Why I play this on PS5 at 4K, the image looks like 1080p with many aliasing artifacts?

  • @WednesdayMan
    @WednesdayMan Před 4 lety +5

    You're telling me a game that could run on the PS3 and Xbox 360 as well as older PCs cannot run in 60fps at all? oh come man the PC version of this can run in 60 even on old laptops from back when Revelations was originally released.

  • @PotatoJonson
    @PotatoJonson Před 3 lety +1

    ACIII remaster looks incredible and plays great. Wondering if these remasters are the same quality?

  • @pizzagamecube2564
    @pizzagamecube2564 Před 7 lety +22

    Prince Dizzy sucking up to Sony once again.

    • @princedizzy3506
      @princedizzy3506 Před 7 lety +10

      You really need to get over me, a weird obsession with a stranger on the Internet can't be good for your health lol merry xmas Sissy Grimes ;)

    • @pizzagamecube2564
      @pizzagamecube2564 Před 7 lety +4

      Merry Christmas, Prince Jizzy. Learn to use punctuation correctly. LOL

  • @michaelwhite5641
    @michaelwhite5641 Před 7 lety +2

    Every video I see on the Pro makes me think "I'll wait a little longer before I purchase".............

    • @michaelwhite5641
      @michaelwhite5641 Před 7 lety +1

      Punch Down King Exactly that yes

    • @Daigon95
      @Daigon95 Před 7 lety +1

      They're pretty much just slapping on 4K patches on games tht werent originally meant to play in 4K on their Console ver. So yea it is a "I'll wait a little longer before I purchase" kind of thing bc their is barely any games being made with Pro features in mind yet and barely any right now is using it effectively with a patch slapped on there.

  • @edwaaard46
    @edwaaard46 Před 9 měsíci

    I mean, it's not really a "remaster". They just ported the games on the next gen hardware with higher resolution and maxed out settings.

  • @conor.jdavies
    @conor.jdavies Před 7 lety +51

    Shame it's not 60fps at 1080p, I hope the Scorpio doesn't do the same thing, no one cares about 4K if it's going to be a choppy 30fps.

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety +19

      30fps in console games isn't choppy if the game is programmed correctly. Using motion blur it makes it run smooth, obv not as smooth as 60fps, but definatly not choppy

    • @Turniplord
      @Turniplord Před 7 lety

      Punch Down King what about it?

    • @exaltedb
      @exaltedb Před 7 lety +2

      Yuiiski Yuii it wasn't a choppy 4k30, they said that the frame rate was a "rock-solid 30 fps"

    • @0xBULLgogi
      @0xBULLgogi Před 7 lety +1

      Someone has obviously never heard of or seen g-sync or freesync before.

    • @geekusmaxima
      @geekusmaxima Před 7 lety +6

      why should you even buy PRO if you dont have 4k TV .. it doesnt make sense cause this console is clearly aiming for 4k. and for 4k 60 fps you need upcoming GTX 1080 ti for that cause not even 1080 is capable of doing 4k/60 right now and that card costs 600$. ( I have GTX 1080 and I know what I'm saying before anyone comes with dumb sht) . You are asking too much for 400$ console. remember its only 400$ before commenting shit like where is 60 fps? why there is no Native 4k? ITS GOD DAMN 400$!

  • @JAYZ999
    @JAYZ999 Před 7 lety

    Funny how I got an ad for the ezio collection before this.

  • @HenryTownsmyth
    @HenryTownsmyth Před 7 lety +1

    Looks like ubisoft has no intention to make any 30fps+ game on consoles and don't wanna spoil the gamers thus limiting the game to 30fps on 1080p.

  • @ShahrozRashid22
    @ShahrozRashid22 Před 7 lety

    man that song at 4 36 brings back memories ;( ezio the master assassin

  • @lostygir1661
    @lostygir1661 Před 5 lety +3

    Where is the Xbox One X support?

  • @MMOGrind
    @MMOGrind Před 7 lety +2

    Feels good to have a PS Pro and a 4k TV. Sucks for everyone else though.

    • @TreyIM22
      @TreyIM22 Před 7 lety

      I half suck. Only have the Pro. Lol. "Glitch in the matrix" slightly delaying my getting a 4K TV.

  • @xen9235
    @xen9235 Před 7 lety +3

    can't wait about Scorpio

  • @thischannelhasaclevername5481

    "technological evolution across the entire last gen", you mean across 2009-2011... It's impressive that the same studio managed to get out of the door 3 games with the graphical evolution showed here

  • @BuggedGaming
    @BuggedGaming Před 7 lety +1

    I always thought Brotherhood looked better than Revelations simply because the color scheme is more aesthetically pleasing. Also Revelations takes you back to Masyaf in several flashbacks where you play as Altair and my God does that version look significantly worse than AC1.

  • @JoriDiculous
    @JoriDiculous Před 7 lety +1

    What a waste of a "remaster". What they should have done is give the whole collection HD (1k / 2k) textures. improved the LOD, View Distance, got rid of the horrendous pop-ins and of course, increased the frame rate.
    That you can't play those tree ancient games at 60 FPS on a PS4 / Pro is embarrassing.

  • @kcfilmstudio
    @kcfilmstudio Před 7 lety +1

    So is DFoundry one person, or a company?

  • @colossus5430
    @colossus5430 Před 7 lety +4

    What Frame-Rate Test ?

  • @desertedsun6133
    @desertedsun6133 Před 7 lety +7

    How to remaster console games: Give it the PC assets from 6 years ago, lower the shadow quality and decrease the lod distance.

  • @Psydrre
    @Psydrre Před 7 lety +3

    No 1080p downsample = no sale

  • @bensupit1015
    @bensupit1015 Před 6 lety

    The title never said remastered it was a remake for new players who want to play it but don’t have a ps3 or just wanna save some energy and convenience.

  • @Duckers_McQuack
    @Duckers_McQuack Před 2 lety +3

    Game being repetitive.. Then odyssey and valhalla decided to release being the pinnacle of grind and repetitiveness xD

  • @TechMetalRules
    @TechMetalRules Před 7 lety +4

    Is it just me or does Ezio's face look weird in Revelations?

    • @Gehab
      @Gehab Před 7 lety +2

      TechMetalRules It always looked off. You should see Desmond tho lmao

  • @gflynn4424
    @gflynn4424 Před 7 lety +1

    see I really like the way AC2 looks, it's plain and simple, you haven't got all these crazy visual effects and overly detailed buildings it's just clean and looks really smooth.. it allows the gameplay and story to take over, instead off 'oooooo let's stop and take a screenshot' nonsense

    • @Lucrei.
      @Lucrei. Před 5 lety

      I feel ya bro and it's still a beautiful looking game today @1080p60fps on PC :)

  • @Turniplord
    @Turniplord Před 7 lety +1

    Great video - annoying about them leaving out the downsampling though (already platinumed 2 and 1 trophy left on BH and Rev in the PS4 version so nearly done with them :) ) - Although, I do feel this video should have shown the Xbox version in some of the comparisons as well, just so we can lay to rest the video that was going around saying this game is crap and doesn't perform well (the video was based on the Xbox version)

  • @4horsemenoftheapocalypse58

    So who's going to see the AC movie staring Magneto?

    • @wingman-1977
      @wingman-1977 Před 7 lety +1

      doctre81deathsonchapter 7
      Saw it last night (Tues night) at the theater. It was awesome.

  • @thelatenightgamer5344
    @thelatenightgamer5344 Před 3 lety +1

    Played a.c. revalations in the ezio collection. The shadows keep on moving and flickering wtf

  • @Barney-ii1no
    @Barney-ii1no Před 7 lety +6

    Ubisoft back at it again, they gotta change there rules or they wont last long

    • @Barney-ii1no
      @Barney-ii1no Před 7 lety +1

      yeh i know., i really dont think they will last long carrying on like this, the people/person calling the shots needs to buck up there ideas.

  • @luizmelendezgaming1615
    @luizmelendezgaming1615 Před 7 lety +2

    Made by Ubisoft..
    Did they downgrade the Remastereds too? 🤔🤔

  • @ironmatto3
    @ironmatto3 Před 6 lety

    I've noticed how Ubisoft didn't bother upgrading animations from AC1-Revelations, thank goodness 3 started it.

  • @SoNGY8888
    @SoNGY8888 Před 7 lety +1

    You'd think last gen games would run at a solid 60FPS on currently gen consoles by now.......>_> wth Ubi?!

  • @BenHyuga
    @BenHyuga Před 7 lety +2

    Hopefully they give pc gamers these texture upgrades soon

    • @Lucrei.
      @Lucrei. Před 5 lety

      Why bother when modders will do it for free, that's their attitude sadly

  • @dmastor
    @dmastor Před 7 lety +6

    PS4 was a cash grab, no 60fps on old game? Sony to damn cocky

    • @dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd
      @dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd Před 7 lety +2

      Gamraoh it has nothing to do with Sony lol
      it's the fault of the people that ported it

    • @dmastor
      @dmastor Před 7 lety +1

      It's called "quality check" I tired of the excuses, they said it will run games the same and in some cases better. What we been seeing is games actually running worst and Checker-boarding 4k and lack of 60fps games. PS4 Pro is not as advertise and people need to stop defending this crap or it will never get better.

    • @dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd
      @dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd Před 7 lety

      Punch Down King rainbow six siege

  • @AmericanGregster
    @AmericanGregster Před 7 lety +1

    Does GTA 5 run solid 30 fps on Pro? I know they haven't updated it for the pro yet, but still, shouldn't it run better? Maybe that should be the next video for Digital Foundry!

  • @skullfracture3870
    @skullfracture3870 Před 3 lety

    Your analysis of the “1080p mode” on PS4 pro is faulty. If you set your PS4 pro to only display at 1080p on a 4K screen, the.n 1080p is all you’ll get. The PS4 pro boost mode is only designed to work with native 1080 screens, and the system will down sample 4K to work on the 1080p screen.

  • @voided_reality6863
    @voided_reality6863 Před 7 lety +1

    Why do you keep recommending Chrome for 4K playback in your videos when the highest option is 1080p60fps? Maybe start paying attention to the resolution the videos were uploaded in? The last 3 videos I've watched of DigitalFoundry have claimed 4K video but only 1080p. It's not my browser because I literally checked other 4k videos and they played in 2160p no problem.

    • @Sly94
      @Sly94 Před 7 lety

      Jeremy Kaminski 4K isn't available straight away. Anything higher than 1080p (1440p, 4K, 5K, 8K) is only available in VP9 and depending on the length of the video, CZcams can take up to a full day to process a 4K video in VP9 and make it available as a quality option.
      This is why CZcamsrs schedule their uploads to give videos time to process quality options, it could be that DF didn't schedule this video and as you wrote this 21 hours ago, that is most likely the case

    • @voided_reality6863
      @voided_reality6863 Před 7 lety

      SirZephy then they should post this situation.

  • @kirkpurdy1995
    @kirkpurdy1995 Před 7 lety +1

    at this point it is pretty obvious the ps4 pro was only shipped out so that sony could sell 4k TV's just think about it 4k tv's are starting to become the norm and Sony wanted a reason for you to buy one therefor they released the ps4 pro

    • @Lucrei.
      @Lucrei. Před 5 lety

      Yep dodged a bullet there! Put all the money into a new PC for 1080p/60fps :)

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol Před 7 lety +1

    Revelations @4k 30fps looks amazing, and it proves that Native 4k is possible. I'm pretty sure that there isn't much more that the PRO can do, but then why do developpers keep trying to push useless highly demanding gimmics and upscaling when they realize it will not run well. Just make games that look a little better than this and run the promised NATIVE 4k, even if it's at only 30fps.

  • @KILLAWATTS804
    @KILLAWATTS804 Před 7 lety +1

    maybe ubisoft will see this vid and provide an upgraded patch....that's if they actually gave a damn about the consumers

  • @brainfart528
    @brainfart528 Před 6 lety

    Though Brotherhood is one of my favorite games, I will never understand why the intro looked so beautiful graphics wise compared to the rest of the game...

  • @luezio8914
    @luezio8914 Před 7 lety +1

    the soundtrack itself worth the dollars

  • @TheVentour79
    @TheVentour79 Před 7 lety

    Since the Nex Machina review that i have no doubt about the "Nippon love" between DF and Sony! I dont have age to act like a kid, but.. when i look for games like ori the blind forest, Gigantic or even Raiden V there are no doubt on that.

  • @AshtarSheran1
    @AshtarSheran1 Před 7 lety +5

    2010 game with cinematic experience on ps4 pro.lol

    • @Tomato-lr2yu
      @Tomato-lr2yu Před 7 lety

      temannopellaria
      Your life must be trash.

  • @Mustafa_9628
    @Mustafa_9628 Před 3 lety +1

    The eyes man
    The eyes in AC2 looks….🤣🤣🤣
    Damnit ubishit

  • @CaptainKenway
    @CaptainKenway Před 7 lety +4

    The salty Xboners are in early I see. Subscribed to a channel that specialises in game tech, only to complain when it's focusing on the only interesting new piece of console technology on the market right now.

    • @wyrmmm
      @wyrmmm Před 7 lety +2

      Aretak most of the complaints I've seen has been from PC owners. Seriously though nothing new is out besides the PS4 pro. Why people complain is beyond me

    • @le4-677
      @le4-677 Před 7 lety +2

      Aretak a half-assed upgrade isn't interesting. The Scorpio however, will be the biggest hit in 2017.

  • @pixeltaco9782
    @pixeltaco9782 Před 4 měsíci

    this as a blast to play on xbox series x at 60 fps. textures may be eh, but it looks perfectly fine to be honest.

  • @jayzee2634
    @jayzee2634 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m planning on getting a copy for the ps5, hopefully it runs good

    • @bryanelizalde2188
      @bryanelizalde2188 Před 3 lety +1

      It runs exactly the same, no 60FPS and i think they won't update this game to the new consoles.

  • @dedse2524
    @dedse2524 Před 3 lety +4

    10 years later 30fps, good optimization ubisoft good

    • @pablorodriguez5032
      @pablorodriguez5032 Před 2 lety

      Que densos que son con los fps chabón son re molestos boludo dejate de joder

  • @KratozR6
    @KratozR6 Před 7 lety +1

    I hope this game supports also an update for xbox one x

  • @ArkaynAdrian
    @ArkaynAdrian Před 7 lety

    I am happy to have lots of PS4 Pro coverage but can we please do some more PC like the pre, PS4 Pro days.

  • @Thehackerguy2000
    @Thehackerguy2000 Před 7 lety

    was anyone else hoping they would remaster these games on asscreed unity's engine, imagine assassin's creed with crowds like in the the trailers.

    • @alduinbaneofkings7704
      @alduinbaneofkings7704 Před 7 lety

      IlikeTRAINS55 my friend told me they would remaster the games on consoles. and since i dont own a console i got mad. googled the remaster and it looks like this. it looks like ac2 that i played on my pc 2 years ago xD

  • @markwheeler4245
    @markwheeler4245 Před 7 lety

    I really don't think we can judge what PS4 Pro can do until a good year into its life cycle, this time next Xmas we should start really seeing the benefits... at the moment it's just updated games designed originally for standard PS4, once we see games designed with the Pro in mind from the very start we should really see what's possible!? I do wish devs would use the extra power for full HD 1080p and solid 60fps and extra details like better quality textures, lighting, shadow effects etc so you can for e.g see more details on a character in Pro enhanced games, rather than bang the 4k drum, it's too early to for 4k go for 4k 60/30 FPS solids on PS5 and Xbox next after Scorpio cus even Scorpio won't be doing native 4k across all games I don't think? personally I don't ever sit squinting at my 1080p screen thinking..." damn this pictures ugly and needs better resolution!" No it's a fantastic vibrant screen in 1080p I think anyway, I think alot of people will agree that 1080p is absolutely fine!

  • @Snoozie
    @Snoozie Před 7 lety +133

    The PS4 pro becomes a waste of money almost every video you make about it

    • @Sticks_of_Truth
      @Sticks_of_Truth Před 7 lety +40

      Snoozie
      I know right. Why in the world would I want more 4K Native games on 4K television.

    • @Snoozie
      @Snoozie Před 7 lety +9

      Sifu Old School Man you're right
      it really does make sense to make more games output to 4k and 80% of them not achieve 4k but a lower resolution and lowered performance why havent i noticed this before you've opened up my eyes

    • @Sticks_of_Truth
      @Sticks_of_Truth Před 7 lety +5

      Snoozie
      Lower performance....The True Fanboy comes out. I know, all those resolutions like 1440p, 1600p and 1800p checkerboard rendered that can't be displayed on anything other than a 4K TV- with better or more stable frame rates... A waist. Why do they even bother with enhancements. It is a shame that developers aren't putting focus on those with 1080p displays, but I'm sure they'll get around to it. I'm surprised they're enhancing this many older titles. It's way easier to implement this stuff during development. Stop Fanboying though. The Scorpio comes out in a year and DF will be doing tons of enhancement vids on that.

    • @Snoozie
      @Snoozie Před 7 lety +4

      Sifu Old School what the fuck are you talking about fanboying
      they do work on 1080p display screens and 1600p isnt the resolution nor it 1800p the resolution
      DF has shown that a lot of games are getting shittier performance than their 1080p ps4 counterpart
      im not even a fucking xbox fanboy i have a pc ps4 and xbox one
      the pro is a waste of money, you'd be better off getting a pc of similar specs and playing it on your 4k tv because the games are not properly optimized
      yes pc isnt properly optimized all the time but at least you arent constricted to predetermined settings instead of choosing your own settings and performance level

    • @Sticks_of_Truth
      @Sticks_of_Truth Před 7 lety +7

      Snoozie
      Talking out your ass for talking sake. Only a few games dropped performance when running in 1080p mode not enhanced visuals compared to the standard PS4. The problem wasn't the higher resolution on The Last of Us, it was down-sampling vs the standard PS4. Oh, and they've done vids on these problems being fixed with updates so update your information. Don't come at me with "I'm not a fanboy" by bringing up PC. PC are whatever you can make them. Someone always has a PC that will out perform a locked hardware console. Keep your money... you don't need a Pro, but I'm happy with mine. If you're not Fanboying, then you're doing a good job just being a hater.

  • @mouykhshabon
    @mouykhshabon Před 7 lety +4

    I think since the last month DF is doing Nothing but PS4 coverage

  • @gabrieleriva651
    @gabrieleriva651 Před 2 lety +1

    FINALLY 60 fps on Xbox Series X!

  • @Bigdaddymittens
    @Bigdaddymittens Před 7 lety

    Great, another video from the official PS4 pro channel