Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection on Nintendo Switch: Digital Foundry Tech Review
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
- We've already seen some fairly successful Assassin's Creed ports for Nintendo Switch, but the arrival of The Ezio Collection completes the classic pre-Unity set. Just how well do these conversions stack up against the last-gen consoles - and indeed the Xbox 360 originals? Oliver Mackenzie reports.
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Good news. Ubisoft actually patched the game and added the ambient fog effect back into Revelations. The game runs and looks wonderfully.
Good news, thanks. been looking for any patch notes with no luck. this definitely helps.
Yooooo
Hi there! Has been the sound bug, where some persons speak louder than others been fixed?
How about ac2 has it been changed?
@@alessandropiersanti9426 no AC2 is still awful to look at, just played it last night and wow the game is so much worse than the original visually... Still fun to play but I'd definitely prefer Steam Deck
Absolutely loved AC2 when I got it on X360. Had my 58" flat screen TV wall mounted in front of bed and would play it for hours. It was so immersive and the music is great too. AC2 is one of them games where it brings me back to late 2000's..where everything wasnt so expensive and life was quite simple
The score in AC2 is still my all-time favorite
Sad AC2 is not a good game to play in exio collection because it looks horrible.
I recently bought a PS3 Slim, it was my dream when i was a kid and now i was able to get it, it came with the 3 ezio games, ffxiii and GoW ascension, good pack for 150 euros (including a TV), and i noticed immediately the vast difference between the original AC games compared to the remasters, i personally like the increase on texture resolution, but for the rest they broke the atmosphere completely.
Back then they made the games working around the limitations of each system, and thanks to that they had to get creative when working on the visual aspect of the games, that ended up with these really marked designs that looked really good, since nowdays they have such huge amount of resources many don't tend to think about how they made games 10 or 15 years ago and when working on projects like this, they tend to break the original atmosphere of the games...
Agreed
A old PC would be better... and all those games are free on PC.
@@youtubeaccount7544 The only plausible GPU you could get for cheap would be some used HD 6970, 6950, 7970, 7950, or some GTX 470/480/570/580, maybe some GTX 700 series if you are lucky, everything past that point is seriously overpriced, building a PC right now sucks, if you only wanna play games, the cheapest option is either a Steam Deck, a XBOX Series S, or a Nintendo Switch, maybe a Digital PS5, but at 80$ per game and no backwards compatibility via disc the entire used market goes through the window for you.
Maybe some ryzen APU could work for 1080p or 720p, the ryzen 5600g should let you play all AC games for example, the PS3 era ones basically maxed at 1080p running at 60fps with some dips here and there, the unity and forward at 30fps with heavy dips under 10fps at some points even on low settings, and that would mean a good 450+€ on just a mobo+cpu+ram (you seriously want at least 16GB since you will be sharing the ram with the integrated GPU), not taking into account the 40€ cheap case, the 50+€ minimum quality PSU, disc drives, and don't forget periferals, mouse, keyboard and monitor.
Honestly speaking, if you get a PS2, or a PS3, a Wii or a Wii U and you softmod or pirate it i wouldnt even blink, right now it's a good time to grab one of those consoles, mod and pirate the hell out of it.
@@unlimitedslash I think the ps4 pro is very great too and in certain regions possible to get used in store. I only see market place sales in Canada for ps4 pros.
There is more wrong with ezio collection, he failed to mention the new yellow piss filter in ezio collection of brother hood which makes the lighting look much worse than the original. Also when you climb to a high vantage point at night, all of the light sources are gone in a ezio collection of AC2 and brotherhood, which completely ruins the vibe and gives the city a eerie dead feel. Also there were shadow glitches in Venice in AC 2 where shadows weren't rendering properly. The bloom is an aesthetic choice and adds to the dreamy historic vibe of these games. The originals are way better imo
The Switch is such a brilliant console, we have never had such a huge supply of high-quality games in a portable format. And while the Steam Deck will offer better performance and a larger library it will also be far larger and heavier. Odin Pro is also amazing but offer little in regard to modern AAA games.
The Switch is a brilliant concept but not a good console hardware wise.
Well the steam deck is a handheld pc while switch is mobile hardware even tho the deck does have a large library of games and also can play emulators
@@nikitos3558 very true. I find myself choosing alternatives to Switch all the time due to the feel of the hardware. Which sucks because other than that and NSO, it's probably Nintendo's best system. I've been playing the New 3DS more lately.
@@nikitos3558 I wouldn´t say that. The Switch itself is also already 6 yeard old and therefore a bit outdated. Well optimized games like The Witcher 3 or Skyrim run absolutely smooth on this console. Much better than it did back in the OG release on PS4.
@@nikitos3558 how is it not a good console hardware wise? It's a portable system, what's important more than anything else is portability and battery life. The Steam Deck is almost twice as thick and heavy as the Switch, but the battery lasts less than half as long as the Switch's. I don't know about you, but if I'm travelling, I prefer to carry a lightweight system that "only" plays games at 720p30 but can do it for 4+ hours, rather than a bulky, heavy system that plays games at 720p45 yet barely lasts 2 hours. (I know the Deck can go up to 60 fps, but that pathetic battery life will tank even more if you do so)
Assassin's Creed and Batman Arkham, my two favorite franchises from that era got their ambiance ruined by remasters, Arkham City specially. Bluepoint has done the best remasters for what i've seen.
Edit: Forget Bluepoint, Grim Fandango had a great remaster.
I would put the Halo's up there two, especially because you can turn them off and get better performing original games.
@@xBINARYGODx the remastered graphics in Halo changed a lot of lighting and art style. and even if you turned them off the game was based off the gearbox pc port which had downgraded graphics from the original xbox version
@@xBINARYGODx Agreed^ l think the best example of how to “remaster” is Halo 2 Anniversary. Ignoring the launch bugs aside, artistically it’s much more faithful to the OG Xbox original. I wish the Crash and Spyro collections let you toggle to the original, or give you access to them in some way too.
Points out Bluepoint as an example of good remasters, completely forgets all the lazy remasters they did that did nothing but make ps 2 games run at 720p with bad looking bloom... Their last 2 remakes are the epitome of bad remakes that completely butcher the look and atmosphere of the original game, especially the god awful new music.
@@goaway20 Examples? To be honest i only know the MGS collection in detail
I love the attention on aesthetic this guy has based in the technical art. I want someone to do this with Destiny 1 vs Destiny 2.
I can do that for you: 1 is grindy, 2 is grindier.
@@BomimoDK As someone who played both at launch this is very accurate.
D2 is way more saturated and bright overall. The artyle has definitely matured since 2016, but overall I prefer D1's asthetic.
I'm glad someone called out the changes Ezio Collection made to AC2. I thought it looked terrible day 1, but so many people basically said "higher saturation = better"
I agree with you. I've been noticing for years that most remasters when running on newer engines ruin the aesthetic of the original games. Oliver is new but he's already the best analyst at Digital Foundry in my opinion and should be featured more. He probably has an artistic background not only just tech like the other guys.
It's not so much higher saturation, but rather an entirely different lighting and color corrrection. They changed the entire identity of AC2, and it's much worse for it. At least we have the backwards compatibility version on the Xbox consoles.
He also failed to mention the new yellow piss filter in ezio collection of brother hood which makes the lighting look much worse than the original. Also when you climb to a high vantage point at night, all of the light sources are gone in a zip collection of AC2 and brotherhood, which completely ruins the vibe and gives the city a eerie dead feel. Also there were shadow glitches in Venice in AC 2 where shadows weren't rendering properly. Yeah the bloom was little over done in the og versions but it added to the historic feel.
The remastered version fixed the piss filter that plagued many 360 games, it's objectively better. Now these beautiful cities can actually flourish with colors and depth... Not fog to mask the lack of draw distances
I hate the 7th gen desaturated look, and I can only think of a handful of situations where it felt remotely appropriate or justified. And thriving Renaissance-era cities are not among them. I'm glad the later rereleases pumped up the colors a bit.
Older games like these is where PC shines the most, even a cheap netbook with intel iGpu can play these games, without sacrificing the original aesthetic...
Yeah, only ACII, unfortunately, has some really bad optimization on PC, unlike the Brotherhood and Revelation (Despite the II, imo, being the best AC of all). I replayed it 3-4 years back on some cheap laptop hardware and, while the game itself is as amazing as it always has been, the performance was really bad
Not really. These are pretty badly optimized. Crysis 1 style.
@@user-fs8rn4cb6c yea exactly. 60 fps isn't really achievable on ac 2
I agree. I'm able to max everything out at 4k on a 2060s with most PS3 games. Alot of these loos so much better than I remember
He also failed to mention the new yellow piss filter in ezio collection of brother hood which makes the lighting look much worse than the original. Also when you climb to a high vantage point at night, all of the light sources are gone in a zip collection of AC2 and brotherhood, which completely ruins the vibe and gives the city a eerie dead feel. Also there were shadow glitches in Venice in AC 2 where shadows weren't rendering properly.
It's a shame these ports never really reached their full potential. I found the 30FPS lock on the X1/PS4 release very head scratching. Luckily, the Series S/X FPS Boost the Ezio Collection to 60FPS. I wish these ports received more attention, but at least they are now playable at an acceptable form on Switch!
Game probably has physics tied to framerate. I'm not entirely sure though.
Why I play on PC. I've been playing this game at high framerates for years.
@@Manganization don't think so. PC releases work fun at 60 and, like op said, Series consoles got an upgrade.
@@Manganization No, even my Steam Deck can keep up smooth 60 fps for the Ezio Trilogy
This is a great collection for the portable system. Patches have mostly fixed all the issues present.
Hi there! Has the sound bug, where some persons speak louder than others been fixed?
liking oliver's videos, no nonsense and has a good eye for aesthetic
How these old ass games with their 3d 3rd person camera and large towns and cities, open world STILL look better than modern Switch Pokemon games I hilariously depressing. Looking at this just shows the incompetence of Gamefreak in making Pokemon games now a days.
Becuz its Nintendo they don't care about graphics
Gawd i deeply missed the OG assassin games pure nostalgia childhood this was
My guess for the audio mixing issues is not due to performance, but rather due to an aggressive loudness compensation/volume normalization filter. The port developer likely did this because the expectation was that most hours will be played with these versions on the small, relatively tinny speakers on the Switch, so they compressed the audio mix to make it more on-the-go-friendly. It would be nice if, when docked, it would return to a more dynamic audio mixing, like the original games or the Xbox One/PS4 Ezio Collection mix. Alternatively, it would be fantastic if there were settings to change to a more dynamic mix if you are using wired/wireless headphones.
They underestimate the speakers on switch bioshock sounds absolutely amazing on the switch easily the best sounding game on the system.
Dynamics > compression
Every time
I really like Oliver's videos. Straight to the point but full of content and super detailed.
I think his scripts are good and so is his information gathering and how he examines graphics.
He knows his stuff, but I’m not a fan on his vocal delivery. I find it hard to exactly point out what part of his vocal delivery I don’t like, but I don’t feel engaged when I watch his videos.
@@dodgykebaab I agree. It’s very hard to listen to.
@@dodgykebaab His vocal delivery is a little dry, maybe it's because it's all in the same tone? Not too excited, not disappointed, just mid tone throughout lol.
@@1meen1 it's delivered in a clinical and educational tone
Lost me at 30fps. Seems like a lazy port.
Valid complaints, but seems pretty good overall if you want a portable version. The biggest sin for me is all the games aren't in the cart.
True, wish the games would appear individually in my library too. Also the compromises seem justifies given the lengthy battery life while playing on V2.
Agreed. I've been having a fine time replaying AC2 in handheld, and aside from occasionally being annoyed at dynamic resolution drops, I have no big complaints about the presentation. But then, I personally prefer the more realistic colors of the remakes. I've never been a fan of 7th gen desaturation. Thriving Renaissance cities should look colorful and lively!
Nah, doesn't seem pretty good overal if you want a portable version. There's no excuse of any aspect of the game to be worse than the original since the hardware is more pwoerful.
@@thenonexistinghero the hardware may be more powerful on paper, but in practice they also have to account for handheld mode, where the system cannot draw nearly as much power. You can't have a game looking amazing while docked, and look like shit the minute you go handheld.
@@thenonexistinghero But it's not a port of the OG games. It's a port of the 8th gen remaster. I am not a fan of all changes either btw.
This happened on Vita as well. The PS2 ports often ran poorly because they were porting the PS3 remasters to Vita. Even though Vita should have been easily able to handle PS2 content.
While docked mode does suffer from quality drops it is honestly great in handheld, specially in Switch lite
Switch seems to be pretty bad with handling constant filters and fog effects so it was a great compromise to get them off, to be able to play it
Great analysis Oliver, thank you.
Him and Tom morgan are doing the best DF analysis videos
@@ka7al958 I agree, they should be featured more.
He talked shit for first 2 n half minutes so he lost his credit
This was released a week before for patreon users?
Considering the Switch’s memory bandwidth is very similar to X360/PS3’s, I can see why they cut out the bandwidth intensive fog since they are running the game at 1080p most of the time, instead of 720p like on X360/PS3.
No one should be docking the Switch.
@@beasthunt I've docked my Switch as many times as I docked your mother.
@@beasthunt I disagree, it's a very useful feature especially when I'm trying to play multiplayer on that one switch. the tablet screen isn't great for splitscreen gaming or Super Smash Bros Ultimate with 4 or more players on one system.
@@beasthunt Agreed
@@WednesdayMan horrible feature and it does nothing but strain your eyes on anything but Mario games. It separates the casuals from the gamers. Don't be casual.
With the Steam Deck out now, the proposition of having AC on Switch just does not seem very appealing. Im a big fan of ACII and will finally buy again steam once i have SD on my hands. The music was just epic.
@@mikeuk666 bro, i can play GTA V for like 4 Hours on my Deck with medium Settings 60 FPS and Brightness on 50%
The Ezio Collection will have anything but poor battery life lol
@@mikeuk666 Not like the Switch battery life is any better, and that actually being sold as a true handheld, and not just a handheld PC like the Steam Deck.
@@tyrcipher8811 Switch battery life is much better-the newer model that was released late 2019 fixed the battery issues of the original model.
@@Jaekization By like an hour... So it now like 4hrs or 5hrs if you have the OLED vs 3:28hrs at launch. That still isn't great when most switch games look no better than a PS3 game, and are designed for the handheld. The Steam Deck is straight up playing PC with ni optimizations to accommodate the battery of the Steam Deck.
I just started playing Black Flag on Switch a few days ago in handheld mode, and I'm utterly impressed.
@@ramonandrajo6348 if you can get your hands on one lol, Mine still says Q2 so i'm hoping its gonna be soon!
Right it looks worse and they couldn't get console recording in I'm disappointed also black flag and Rouge were phenomenal play with joycons disconnected for full HD rumble seems it's bugged.
Blag Flag is an amazing port. Not sure why they couldn't stay on that level of quality...
@@ramonandrajo6348 till which assasins creed can we play on deck. Are the latest ones playable
@@ramonandrajo6348 you what? How is this information helpful or relevant in any way? Who needs to be told that the Steam Deck has better specs than the Switch? Does that mean people who bought a Switch 4 years before the Steam Deck was announced should just never play their Switch again?
Aaahhh the good old days !!! Ezio was simply the best character
He really was
This guy is my favourite DF presenter so far; you can just hear the impartiality in his voice. Just straight facts, fantastic.
I wonder if the option of playing these games on Steam Deck with minimal compromises will have an effect on the switch version sales. Interesting to think about the fact that Switch's biggest competitor moving forward might be the Steam deck, not the microsoft/sony consoles.
Love your no-nonsense approach, Oliver. A shame that these ports didn't really turn out that great.
Is that the takeaway you took from this?
I was watching thinking this looked great for a little portable handheld system.
@@blitzwing1 8th gen CPU's were trash but the pro consoles had those monster GPU's in comparison and we got some visually impressive games but not many pushing 60fps at that fidelity. Whatever the next Nintendo console will be having the Xbox Series S should help with regards to 3rd party ports in the future. It's nice when games get support from previous generations even if it's not a free upgrade vs console port you pay for being able to play these games again and portable at that.
@@DxMxC I'm mainly talking about the artistic intent of the original games not being preserved with the missing environmental effects.
@@DxMxC "for a portable"
That's not saying much.
In my opinion the switch has better shading/lighting than Xbox 360 but volumetric fog is lacking heavily
The Xbox BC version on XSX/S is still the best version. 60fps and Auto HDR.
Including AC Unity ?
No it isn't lol
The ps4 pro and ps5 play these games at native 4k. On a slow game like this 4k is more important than 60 fps.
Plus my tv does auto hdr itself if I really wanted it.
Assassins creed 1 on the other hand is BY FAR the best on series X. It's amazing what fps and res boost has done there
I'm a simple Italian guy: I see Ezio, I click.
I was hoping this was coming soon. DF doesn’t disappoint.
YEAH!!! I love these games. I can find my way around the Venice and Florence locations with the maps, became know these places in reality. Beautiful, and these games capture the palpable excitement of the Renaissance. Climbing the towers in particular, that Pan-Zoom-soundbite, soaring bird… swan-dive. Such a rewarding mechanic.
I would love full remakes of these like Gears
If this had come out in the first two years, I probably would have bought it close to day 1. There have been so many port collections that they're not as interesting anymore (especially since my PC might be older, but could already play these games at high fidelity and likely for less money). I'll probably still buy it when it's cheap though.
"I'll probably still buy it when it's cheap though." runr counter to the rest of you rpost - dont buy just because its on sale.
@@xBINARYGODx why not buy it on sale?
Give us GTA V Next Gen analysis, old gen comparison and impressions 👍🏻
I watched comparison video from gtaseries and the next-gen version looks the same to pc version and the ray-tracing seems absent in it. Hope DF will do deep dive video to see if they actually implemented ray-tracing in the next-gen GTA V.
@@mrdatemike4877 RT shadows.
There weren't that many glitches in other AC Switch games, and only AC3 had really compressed audio. Black Flag and Rogue seemed fine
Black Flag and Rogue have compressed audio, but other than that they're fine.
@@memedealer1052 Idk if they fixed that but I legit didnt notice the audio issues in 4 or rogue. Then again, my first experience with black flag was the Wii U port, so maybe thats why.
I found AC3's pop in and framerate highly distracting, to be honest. I'm not usually sensitive to that sort of thing, but it makes me wonder if I'm just too used to the PC versions in terms of performance.
@@aaronpettit3813 I didn't have an issue with the fps in 3, but man you are so right about that pop in. It is super noticeable. AC2 from the ezio collection has even worse pop in somehow, with characters occasionally disappearing from cutscenes
It seems like the biggest downfall is basically that they didn't base it off the original 360/PS3 versions, but I'm glad they run and look well. Hopefully been a patch since this video as I'm genuinely going to purchase it.
Also just to add Assassions Creed 3 launched rough with performance issues, but they genuinely fixed that up. Pretty much all AC games on Switch perform pretty great now. Think the best AC port goes to Black Flag so far.
Why the hell every latest AAA remaster completely ruins the original aesthetics of the game (notice the remaster word there, RE2 Remake is not a remaster)
Because they get outsourced to small studios and rushed, you dont want your actual talent held up in a low income project.
Different reasons.
1. Because the office drones handling these things confuse a checklist of new technical features as an aesthetic.
2. Because the remaster is a desperate publisher's low budget, low priority effort, which they refuse to treat like one - they love promising improvements, because promises don't cost anything! Unfortunately, the doomed development team is in way over their heads.
3. "We lost the source code and all the assets. Good luck!"
4. They sacrifice everything for performance under unrealistic deadlines.
@@Tuckdragon someone should hire u as creative talent
@@Deccani you hiring?
RE3 remaster, the cod mw and mw2 were just perfect
The Ezio trilogy is still best played on the PS3 or X360. The load times may be a pain, but they look how they’re supposed to. Ezio remains the best AC protagonist.
Shame about the artistic changes. But I'm about 20 hours in right now, and I think it's pretty great. I haven't found any of these issues to be distracting at all, and the frame rate is super solid.
It's been fun to revisit these older games. Forgot how much I loved them when I was younger. They've aged pretty well.
Same here. I'm having a blast! I'm halfway through AC2 for the first time in 10 years. The only issue is my Joycon is starting to drift...
i couldnt stop laughing at lucy in the beginning of AC2 for whatever reason she looks good in cutscenes but as soon as your in game her eyes look like that alita battle angel character.
I don't want to hate on Switch, because I think it's a very cool hybrid console, but let's not fool ourselves: it just isn't meant for multiplatform games. And now with Steam Deck and a huge library of compatible games, there's even less reason to buy a Switch if not for exclusive first party games.
Speak for yourself, why buy a steam deck when I can just buy a gaming laptop instead? Lol
@@darklord9581 Can you hold a laptop in your hands like Deck? No, you can't, then your point is moot.
@@offspringfan89 yes you can hold a portable gaming (keyword) “laptop”lmao and can even use a Xbox controller with it☠️☠️☠️.Might want to rephrase your sentence buddy
@@darklord9581 Do you carry your notebook plus a controller and game on a bus, subway, or a plane? Normal people usually don't.
@@offspringfan89 Bruh you ever heard of a college student
ports may be flawed, but still wipe the floor with the latest pokemon titles graphicswise
Awesome video! Keep it up Oliver.
Heard you're working on a video about the next gen upgrade for the original Dying Light. Can't wait to see your analysis on it!
Please, do the obvious switch vs SteamDeck video :D
If only it wasn't a digital only physical game
AC2 comes on the cartridge, but Brotherhood and Revelations and the two movies have to be downloaded from the eShop
@@TheGameCube64Guy yeah most of it is digital only, you really trust nintendo to keep their servers up with them already closing 3DS down next year
@@Stephen_Black no just cut the movies I know no one gives a shit about that you can easily find on CZcams and put it on a 32GB cart. Then everything else should fit as is, ezio can certainly deserve as much.
The thumbnail is sick
I tell you I remember these game’s graphics differently. It looked 4k 60fps when I first played it lol
Happened to me with Black Flag too. Remembered the game run at high fps and hig-res. Re-played it again recently and....yeah. Nope. Not even close. At best it was probably like 720p 30fps at low and mid settings back then and my brain accepted it as amazing, which it was, but yeah, simpler times I guess when we don't care about that sort of thing.
@@IsaacSperrow i know right. I guess once your eye and brain gets used to a higher resolution and frame rate, it can’t go back.
Well the ezio collection was native 4k on ps4 pro
I've been enjoying the ezio collection on switch but yeah there are some really noticeable hits, especially with the audio in ac2.
It's kinda weird how ubisoft is still putting out iffy ports after they seemingly figured things out with the ports of black flag and rogue.
Rogue port wasn't great
Wish there was a port for the PSP.
I'm just waiting to finally get a gameboy port 😔
Wish there was a port for the virtual boy
GTA V will be coming to the PSP in 2023.
A vita port would be good
@@nickramos5614 With how liberation turned out, maybe not.
The very real possibility of hardware DLSS 2.x support in a Switch 2 is exciting. It's no longer a pipe dream, since Nvidia has the Ampere mobile parts and laptop parts now. They also contain optional extensions for prior gen back compat. - including Maxwell era. So a Super Switch/Switch 2 could absolutely feature the mobile Ampere part or hybrid mobile/laptop APU part, and support Switch 1 back compat. along with full DLSS support.
Performance/battery saving for sure.
And then we have an interesting possibility with the Switch 2 dock. If the docking bus bandwidth interface between handheld and dock is sufficiently wide, you could include a small array of specific Tensor/CU cores in the dock to enable stronger ML/AI for DLSS. I.e., 1080p to 4K reconstruction towards 4K display output.
Anyway, lots of opportunities there, and the manufacturing cost will be reasonable by the time Nintendo is ready to move forward with a Switch successor.
AMD just has no real counterpart to DLSS. You really can't run Ray Tracing at both high framrates and higher resolutions without it. That's why I haven't been impressed with these new consoles. Cyberpunk for instance can only run RT shadows losing it's intended aesthetic. Even regular rastureized games on the new unreal engine are going to struggle to hit anything near 4k if they choose to cater to people who expect atleast 60fps in every game which seems likely. I've yet to see any impressive looking game without compromises from these new consoles. Spiderman Miles Morales being the only exception so far. With Nvidia in their pocket not only should they implement in the next switch but they should make a non portable powerhouse leveraging Nvidia and market it as a true next gen console, because we all know sony and microsoft will go the enhanced console route mid gen. Nintendo can swoop in and take the hardcore audience as well.
@@uncouthliyouth4486 Well, FSR 2.0 could be useful for the consoles. They are adequately spec'd for it, if developers dig into it.
It's a vastly superior temporal solution compared to FSR 1/RSR.
If good FSR 2.0 implementations can claw back (typical) 20-30% performance overhead, that could help accommodate better coverage of ray-tracing without collapsing frame-rate targets -- and still look pretty damn good.
@@griffgames9538 That would be great I'm in no way implying that AMD will just sit on their hands here. The gap will be closed no doubt. Those are pretty lofty goals you stated there but then again DLSS 2.0 improved immensely from it's original itteration. It's become indispensable at this point.
The fact that all the games aren't present on the gamecard makes this a no buy for me.
Yeah, this seems to be a problem with most compilations on Switch and not just Assassin's Creed.
Are yall clowns still trying to stay physical only on the switch? Give it up dude lol
No intentional blurring? Clearly visible faces instead of half in shadow? No fog hazing out everything more than 20 meters away? No weather effects mucking up the vistas?
*What's the problem?* I love it. I'm sick of games losing visibility in the name of artsy fartsiness.
In a competitive game like league, valorant, or counter strike you have a point, but AAA single player games are typically where developers push the boundaries of presentation and exchange contrast and visibility for "artsy fartsiness", better known as stylized art or even photorealism.
I can't help but be interested in this collection (and the switch is my only method to play currently). As a solely portable player the dips will be a little annoying but should be fine. As I have a large back catalogue already, this will have to wait quite a while before I pick it up.
I haven't noticed a single dip in portable mode. I think it's a lot harder to see them with such a small screen
brahs, I have been playing gotg on Series X, and I honeslty think the difference between the 1080p in performance mode, and 4k mode in quality mode is fairly negligible. Ray tracing mode (1440pish) looks the same as the 4k mode. and I game on a 77'' tv
Gonna play that on my Steam Deck actually ^^
@@mikeuk666 wait what?
@@mikeuk666 ...like every portable device when it's not connected to a power source???
Same! ^^ i love my Deck, i dont even touch my Switch any more
@@mikeuk666 Battery will last actually longer than the Switch on this Games, with better settings and Framerate.
@@motorolah8107 Yeah wtf? I guess he'll play it on his Switch.. until the battery dies..? What in the good god damn
Fantastic job Oliver!
I'm more surprised that we don't have Assassin's Creed collections on the PS5; even more so with the original.
Or PC
It's backwards compatible from the PS4?
Yes it’s backwards compatible i have loads of the games from Xbox 360 and Xbox one that I’ve re downloaded on my Xbox series x
I have revolutions i got it for free with games with gold years ago
@@KarlDelaney99 it’s 30 fps 🙃🙃
Nice one Oliver, although I think you fly at speed through your videos. I wish you'd spend a bit more time pausing and giving people an opportunity to appreciate some of the visual differences you're highlighting; A bit more back-and-forth between old and new.
Why is your comment 3 days old? The video just released.
@@ka7al958 Patreon? That would be my guess.
@@themadnes5413 i didn't know that was a thing.
Didn't know about this. Got excited for a minute or so, then saw the "Digital Download" label on the box. Interest died right there.
This is one of the Games That got a ps4 pro Patch and runs in 4K on Playstation consoles. I feel like you have to go out of your way to Not include a Single Frame from the ps4 Version? Why Not Comparing switch to ps4 pro instead, as the pro released earlier, this Game was 4K before the Switch was Even out
I imagine because One S is the closest point of comparison.
Only issue I have is The map dropping frames to like 10
There not great ports but I just love the all the assassins creed games from the 7th generation and now I can play them all on my switch is super nice
Except 4. That one was shit
@@HugoStiglitz88 what you talking bout man
Black Flag is pretty good
WHY DOES SWITHC LOOK BETTER THEN PC! Just give Ezio Collection on PC
Nintendo Switch were you can play downgraded versions of 7th gen games. I miss the days when a Nintendo console was a viable option for playing curnet gen games. They just quite trying to deliver high fidelity after the Game Cube.
Such good games. Nice to see them brought to the switch.
Lol simps
I know people are gonna continue to shit on the remasters and some of the weird atmospheric changes, you have to admit that the Xbox Series X/S version is the best way to play with FPS Boost to 60fps. I love the Ezio Trilogy, but they have always had frame stuttering issues on PC, especially 2
I can confirm the latter. I tried to replay it a few weeks ago with a pretty beefy rig and it stutters all the time. Sadly there is no real solution for it.
Looking forward to your GTA5 comparison.
Why does Ubisoft not fix the lighting IN AC2 remaster or an original mode option?
looks pretty good on switch tbh
The only glaring issue I’ve seen so far in AC2 is when you drop a smoke bomb. Other then that I’m so happy I can play this on the go.
Grading On A Curve, Episode 237
If I ever get the hankering to play these games again, I am just going to get the steam version and use some sort of graphical overhaul mod to bring it up to snuff.
I would have preferred a 900pD/600pH rather than them shooting for full res and just cutting a ton of image enhancements.
Hey Oliver, could have mentioned that AC2 is the only title on the cart, the other two being only available as downloads from the eShop.
this is a random thought but i wish they would take assassins creed and give it more of a Sifu style combat. It just seems more realistic and involved to me
Can anyone explain to me the details for the DF patreon supporter program? Or at least point me someplace that explains it. I think I watch DF more than any other CZcams channel and I’m curious what goodies they have for patreon ppl
So to summarize. The 360 is the best version. The Xbox one version is the second best and the switch version is the worst.
@@mikeuk666 exactly I knew it lol you get mad when someone doesn't think the switch is good enough lmfao
Actually... the XB1 version on XSX/S is the best version. Fps boosted to 60fps
You lot should start including comparisons between Switch and Steam Deck.
Nada melhor que poder reviver as aventuras de Ezio no banheiro
wow. my first ever dislike on a digital foundry video.
"essentially the first propper Assassins Creed Games, after the rather limited first installment".
That is not OK. That is an uncharacteristically bad take for this channel. I am actually gobsmacked that this just happened.
imo id much rather have the og version running stable and well with just some ui and qol tweaks over a downported version of the upgraded version, i feel like it couldve been better if they just did a 60fps version of the 360 game but that’s probably just me
Real Assassins creed....now we just need AC1 remastered. and a return to the roots but i know that will never happen. atleast u can play ezio trilogy on switch now, but with steamdeck might be best to wait and play em on there at 720p 60fps.
I'll just wait for the fixes and patches before picking this one up. The minimal detail removal shouldn't be a deal-breaker for those who just want to pick up the game for the sake of nostalgia.
The destruction of AC2's art style was enough to deter me from the collection back when it dropped for the Xbox One and PS4, since it is my favorite AC game. Disappointed to see it became even worse with Switch.
Ac2 and black flag are a must for me.
looks so much better on 360. These ezio collection ports are likely taken from the PC, the PC ports were rough too
The pc versions have amazing graphics tho, way better than the collection on ps4/xone
Looking forward to DF's take on GTAV's SX/PS5 release. The Ray Trace Reflections is weird looking!
Doesnt have rt reflections, shadows only
The best way to enjoy this collection is using the Steam Deck. Switch is really showing it’s age and will only worsen.
I would play this game but 30fps sorry I can’t
@@mikeuk666 once you play 60fps you can't go back to 30fps. Why are you so mad? You seem more like the sheep with your bandwagon name
@@Leo-zero711 I've got a high-ish end PC and a PS5, but a stable 30fps on switch games still looks fine to my eyes. I can't stand 30fps on PS5, but something about the smaller screen and no 60fps option for comparison makes 30fps on switch perfectly palatable. Hell, I even played a fair chunk of Doom 2016 and found that enjoyable.
@@kieran.grant_ I wouldnt argue that. It probably feels smooth in portable mode. I've had 5 nintendo switches and I couldn't get into it. I really tried too tho. I was unable to walk for 4 months due to a gunshot wound and I still couldn't bring myself to even open it out the box.
Im gonna get this, 50% for nostalgia, 50% for the lols.
Halfway in the game I think it's alright though my first assassin creeds game was actually on the switch with assassin creed 3 I find it enjoyable if you can get beyond the image quality and framerate but had anyone else experienced a lack of HD rumble in this game?
Idk what it is about UBI games but the audio always seems to have weird inconsistencies.
you be soft
Are you guys going to cover the next gen patch of Dying Light?
They kinda did in the DF weekly podcast they have
@@AlphaladZXA they should cover the new update for dying light 2 didnt they add better resolution?
roughly, if you are looking for the last version you will buy this is not it, but if you like those games and want them on the go the switch version will satisfy.
I already have all these games on PC but I still wanted to see how they did the switch version. The assassin's Creed 3 remaster was disappointing af so I hoped they didn't do that mess this time
Assassins creed 3 was disappointing on switch but Black flag and rogue were great ports.
If you're talking about the performance issues, AC3 is mostly patched now compared to launch day, I gave it another go recently.
@@stupendously_silly I recently beat the game on Switch.
Not really sure how bad it was pre-patch but
Performance wise, I give it 7.5/10 or even 8/10
There are still a lot of bugs which frustrated me during gameplay.
*SPOILERS*
For example the Father and Son mission, where Connor has to disguise himself as one of the mercenary.
After killing and looting the mercenary, the marker brought me back to the area where I left Haythem, however the marker indicates underground. I spent nearly 10mins before looking it up on google only to find it a bug.
Then the Charles Lee Chase scene, at one point, I caught up too quickly to Charles and he just stood there with no interaction.
Only later to restart it and find out that I had to let him go ahead of me to trigger a cutscene.
The homestead mission where I had to rescue this person from the cliff after killing the mercenaries, triggered no interactions. Only because I killed them too close to the boulder.
There are quite a few more but overall, I enjoyed the game. Hence 7.5/10. it's worth the money, if you're looking to go on an AC marathon during quarantine. I know I have.
AC4 on the otherhand, freaking amazing. 10/10 no issues whatsover.
i hope we can see a video on the expanded and enhanced scam
keep doing the good work
we went from great games like these to sh"tting games like valhalla :(
It would be cool if you did a steam deck comparison as well
I'm with you, but SD performance is niche enough that I don't think it'll be worth the time for them to throw it in for comparison in these videos.
Steam Deck is a PC and it is running the PC version. You can find PC footage all around CZcams.
Been looking for this.
It's just better to play the games on a Steam Deck, AND FOR FREE if you already own them