PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN Movie Review **SPOILER ALERT**
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- Gay homosexuals Nick and Joseph spoil Promising Young Woman - a 2020 American black comedy thriller film directed, written, and co-produced by Emerald Fennell, in her feature directorial debut.
Premise: A young woman, traumatized by a tragic event in her past, seeks out vengeance against those who cross her path.
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Cast:
Carey Mulligan as Cassandra “Cassie” Thomas
Bo Burnham as Ryan
Alison Brie as Madison
Clancy Brown as Stanley Thomas
Jennifer Coolidge as Susan
Connie Britton as Dean Elizabeth Walker
Laverne Cox as Gail
Adam Brody as Jez
Max Greenfield as Joe
Christopher Mintz-Plasse as Neil
Sam Richardson as Paul
Molly Shannon as Mrs. Fisher
Alfred Molina as Jordan
Angela Zhou as Todd
Chris Lowell as Al Monroe
Abi Beaux as Bridesmaid
Music by Anthony Willis
Cinematography by Benjamin Kračun
Keywords: Men on Film, reaction video, trailer, Focus Features, Sundance Film Festival, Killing Eve, The Crown, Mudbound, An Education, Britney Spears Toxic, Paris Hilton Stars Are Blind, The Weather Girls It's Raining Men
To clarify, I don’t think Carey Mulligan looks elderly. I think the character looks older than her supposed age.
I totally agree. In real life she is 35. She could pass for 40 more than 30 but I do agree she looks older then 30.
It would have been more realistic as her being her actual age of 35 especially with the music choices of the film like toxic by Spears she didn’t need to be 30 in my opinion
I think her character is stuck in her early 20s due to grief and trauma. She's unable to "grow up", dresses younger than her age, works at a low-stress, low-opportunity job, living with her parents... and acts out the horrors of the past in order to change the outcome. TBH, I don't think this film could have ended any other way... she's broken beyond hope (especially after finding out that the man she loves was part of the horrors of the past). Tragic in the most Shakespearean of terms. Thank you for this wonderful review-- I LOVED this movie!
@@anniethenonnymouse Well put.
lol shallow
I think they wanted the audience to leave the film feeling like, TOTAL justice wasn't served. Kinda to reflect how in real life MANY "R" Survivors NEVER get JUSTICE (which is Dissapointing, frustrating & heartbreaking). The ending was equally heartbreaking. 😔
I cried and was very angry at the end
Same, it made me angry. Like I wanted justice, but like how the world works...it didn't happen and it tears me apart.
@@charmagne2102 I like to believe that Al and Joe got what they deserved afterwards. The evidence against them was huge and Al's wedding that he treasured so much was ruined.
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I liked the part where the lawyer breaks down and asks for forgiveness. I thought it was a necessary angle to see that Cassie was capable of forgiveness when she’s met with genuine remorse. It does seem a little unlikely that someone who spends their whole career trying to get charges dropped would have their moral compass in tact enough to recognize what they’ve done wrong, but I thought it made a great plot point to contrast from all of the “good guys”
Late reply, but I agree with you. Rewatching it, she gives Madison and the Dean chance to show remorse, had they done so, she probably would've cancelled her plans for them. But they doubled down instead, unlike the lawyer
Completely agree that it was needed to show forgiveness. As an attorney, I was disappointed in the way they portrayed the attorney in the film because it played into the crappy (and in my opinion incorrect) way that movies and TV often portray lawyers. But I understand why they did it for the story line.
@@alexandrakritzman938 I get what you mean. I was reading the script online, and in that scene it was highlighted that Cassie forgiving the lawyer is extremely difficult for her.
Like you said, it was probably for story reasons. The fact that the lawyer, who arguably treated Nina the worst out of the three, was the only one to remember her and feel genuine remorse is probably more interesting story wise.
I love that the protagonist's name is Cassandra. Mythologically, Cassandra was clairvoyant, and her curse was that no one would believe her when she would tell them what she "sees." How traumatic that would be to one's psyche!
I think the reason why the murder scene was so disturbing was because of how realistic it felt. I'm a huge gory horror movies fan and this scene made me feel so many things I haven't felt in a while. From the time it takes to do the deed to Cassie crying and raging underneath the pillow to Alex carrying this out out of pure preservation instincts as he himself is distraught by his own ordeal and wants her to stop pleading. Ugh. It was gut-wrenching. Takes you back to remind you that Cassie, even with all her conviction and drive, is no super woman and Al, monstrous as he is, is no serial killer who enjoys killing, and is hella awkward at it. It just felt too real.
Emerald Fennel stated in an interview once that her father in law was a detective/cop and told her that it takes about 2 1/2 minutes to smother someone. Fennel made sure that the scene was that long to ensure the audience understood the gravity of the situation. The camera pulls in, forcing us to watch this happen. It’s supposed to make us uncomfortable, and it succeeds in that. While the scene is obviously disturbing and we all wanted a different ending for Cassie, I think Fennel’s writing and directing choices were brilliant and really doubled down on the overall message of the story.
The casting choices for these self-proclaimed “nice guys” was perfect. Everything in this movie was thought-out and on purpose. These are actors and comedians that are widely loved and seen in such a positive light. It forces the audience to think about the fact that predators aren’t just scary men in trench coats. They can look perfectly normal and even good-looking and “safe” and still be horrible people.
People keep talking about how old Cassie looks but take into consideration how much stress and regret she has...Cassie is supposed to look aged. The actress looks younger in real life.
no she doesnt
Ptsd is a bitch. It really takes a toll on a person
Yeah it's fucked up that THIS is considered "old"... Also without her having gone thru so much.
I guess but for her character she doesn't look 30. She honestly looks like she could be a mother to a teenager, but nevertheless she was fantastic in this movie
@@marklouis1890 i agree there was one scene where she was talking with a character who was the mother of her friend that died, and i'm thinking they look the same age
I asked myself the same question..."even if Nina was Cassie's best friend/like a sister, the level of commitment and trauma Cassie would have to drop her entire life for a decade and just focus on getting her revenge on shitty men...it was quite unbelievable". But then a couple times in the movie, mostly when Cassie was talking to Nina's mom, it was said that Cassie blames herself for not being there that night to protect Nina. This made it a lot clearer to me because if Cassie was supposed to be with Nina that night but flaked out on her or maybe was drunk and went off to do her own thing, it makes a lot more sense why Cassie's life was upended so severely...the guilt she felt for not being there when Nina asked her to come with her or whatever paired with her subsequent suicide (implied) as a result...Cassie felt responsible for Nina's assault and death as a result.
Just my hypothesis!
I just thought Cassie was low key bisexual/lesbian.
Yup. She kinda blames herself for what happened. She thinks that things would have turned differently if she was there that night.
@@charmagne2102 maybe, but if my closest friend from that age had gone through something similar and I saw myself as responsible for not having been there...the subsequent survivors guilt that wouldve come with her death probably would have upended my entire life as well. I don't think there has to be romantic feelings in order to be effected in such a way.
@@charmagne2102 why does it even matter? And can you not imagine loving someone so deeply without wanting to sleep with them or whatever? True friendship is really like this. It is wonderful and I personally can't say I feel more love for my romantic partner than for my best friends. It's just expressed a differently. But it's as important and as deep. But again.. who cares if she was??
It was believable, and i disagree, a bit. Ppl get PTSD, for example, resulting from the suicide of a loved one, or even just an acquaintance (and I mean, not seeing anything, just the fact it happened). And in this case, Cassie knew what had happened to her dearest, closest, one-of-a-kind bff, one she had an incredibly close bond with, and even if she DIDN'T blame herself for not being there enough (I don't think so tbh), it also struck me that based on their friendship, she felt what happened to Nina like she went thru it herself (my interpretation). She knew the emotional pain like it happened to herself. Plus, seeing all the indifference around you and how perpetrators are being protected is also potentially very traumatizing! It's why survivors often don't speak up. Or why do many ppl downplay what has happened to them; why risk being not believed and dismissed?? It's rape culture on every damned corner, and I don't know a single woman or femme who hasn't had experiences with just that.. (and yeees, also men get abused, but this is say is ALSO related to rape culture. In which sex and gender and stereotyping is equated and used for power abuses.) hell, I know plenty of women who have dropped out of *STH* cos of shit like this. Myself included. And it was not self-sabotage, it was self-preservation. It was being able to continue with life and not wasting your time in places where you're invisible, betrayed, and/or uncared for. And ofc it's not always rap3, but there's SO MANY nuances to it all... Anyway, I loved that film on so many levels and also how ppl are talking about it.
Whew. This movie brought up a LOT of feelings for me. In some way, I almost take it as a love letter to all the Ninas out there (cough cough me). Like, “I see and recognize that what was done to you is horrific.” Carrie is like the friend we all wish we had, someone who would have believed and fought for us in the same way against an indifferent society. I wish it had had a different ending but I also get it. There are no “happy” ending when dealing with sexual assault. Only, sometimes, tempered justice.
Well said.
It felt like my pain was validated, and then I got to have a little fantasy.
If you haven’t seen I MAY DESTROY YOU I highly recommend you watch it.
Brilliant series on how our society deals with the theft of consent.
This!!!!
I believe the reason why she hadn't gotten revenge on Al was because he'd been living in London. When Ryan brought him up it made her realize that he was accessible again. Why she hadn't gone after the other parties involved, I'm not sure.
I was so broken hearted about Ryan. I thought that even if he was a POS in college, by the ending, he was a grown man who supposedly loved Cassie. I was confident that when he heard that Cassie was missing and knew that she must have been hurt by Al and the other men, I thought for sure he would come around to lead the detectives to the cabin where the bachelor party was at least.
He was a jackass from the very beginning. None of his actions surprised me.
I felt...betrayed about Ryan. He obviously grew up, and learned since then. But when the situation called for him to speak up about what actually happened, during the conversation with the detective, he ignored it and allowed for Cassie to be labeled as "crazy woman with issues." Which shows that while he did grow, it wasn't enough for him to set things right.
@@charmagne2102 then he didnt grow up
He only acted like he had grown up when Nina's assault didn't threatened his reputation. Once it did, he reverted back. Look how he treats Cassie in his office. In the same breath he tells her he loves her he is only thinking of himself and his career. He was more mature that his classmates sure, but the way he treated Cassie the last time they saw each other and after he learns she is missing.... Likely dead... He loved her enough to feign ignorance only for his sake.
Just like all the other good guys of the movie...
@@caldehh you are so right. The last thing he said to Cassie triggered me so hard because I've known people just like him. Presenting themselves as so honorable and good, but when THEY personally face criticism, their mask slips and you see the real them. Cassie was surrounded by wolves apparently...no wonder she'd rather have revenge over preserving her own life
girl, she's the same age as me, 35 - elderly!? I don't know whether to be mad, or depressed
I'm 54 and learned one thing: the more you start to let go of the misguided opinions of younger people, the happier you'll be. They'll always think they know more or look better without truly understanding that this is not all that life and existence is about.
she LOOKS older, it's not about the number
@@TheGazelle85 She looks exactly her age, which at the time of filming was 4 years older than her character. She looks exactly as old as she's supposed to be.
Nina was her best friend. Her chosen sister, her soulmate.
Platonic love can be very deep. Deeper than romantic love sometimes.
That's how she felt.
Especially if you are an only child.
I’ve been watching reviews and reading comments. It seems like some men feel like this is a feminist male hating movie. I had much more in-depth perspectives and would like some feedback. I feel like this movie is very much a Rorschach test. Perhaps men who hate this movie, maybe recognize themselves or people they know in the male characters? That being said, maybe my interpretation says more about me than the movie. But here we go .... SPOILERS BELOW ....
I didn’t get the vibe that this is a man hating movie. One of Cassie’s closest relationships is with her father who is portrayed as a genuinely nice man. He’s a gentleman. He’s kind, loving, and supportive. I feel that because of her father, Cassie knows that there are good men out there. But those good men, aren’t the focus of her vengeance. She’s focused on the people (both men & women) who allow date rape to continue by not wanting to get involved. The people who ignore a situation like this rather than intervening and stopping it, or reporting it and backing up the victim if he/she chooses to press charges.
I felt that in Ryan she thought she’d actually found a nice man. Someone she felt comfortable introducing to her father. To me, this implied that she felt that Ryan was was on the same level (as respectful and as kind a man) as her father. At this point in the film, Cassie has finely started the long process of healing her heart and soul with Ryan’s help.
Then when Cassie sees the video and realizes that Ryan was there, and didn’t intervene nor did he report it, her heart is just completely pulverized. I feel at this point she’s done. She is at her lowest point. From her perspective, her family are disappointed in her again for the fact that things didn’t work out with Ryan. She’s now crushed and more depressed than she’s ever been, but at the same time - she’s empowered by the video. The video provides her with the tool she needs to continue on - while her mind is fueled only by sadness, disappointment, hopelessness, rage, and revenge.
I feel like she very likely knew and was prepared to sacrifice herself in order to ruin the rapist’s life, as well as everyone associated with that night - who didn’t come forward and support Nina.
I wondered while watching the movie if she knew one of the handcuffs was faulty. If she was consciously prepared to suicide by, “nice guy.”
Now - This is where I am curious about the meaning of the different colored pens she used in her journal - red and blue. We only saw her in situations where she used a blue pen in her journal. Was the red pen meant to indicate situations in which she actually physically hurt the men she went home with? We only saw her hurting people with psychological attacks, but it was never made clear if she had ever hurt someone physically, for example when she was with the guy with the fedora she referenced, “a woman who uses scissors,” on men who take advantage of what they perceive as drunk women in bars. Was she bluffing, telling the truth, or was Cassie the woman with the scissors, whom she references?
Now back to the bachelor party - before she takes out the scalpel she was careful to wear gloves the entire time she was in the cabin. Once it became clear that Al wasn’t going to redeem himself, she makes the decision to die for her cause. She actually REMOVES her gloves before picking up the scalpel. She’s no longer concerned about finger prints because she’s not getting out of this alive. When she sits on Al with a scalpel and seemingly prepares to start carving Nina’s name into him, I didn’t feel like she was really going to do it. As with all her other victims, she thoroughly convinced Al that she was about to do him grievous harm. To the point that he freaked out and was able to break the (intentionally?) faulty handcuff and attack her. It seems like she was prepared and wore gloves, in the event that things went differently (as they did with the lawyer), but once it was clear Al wouldn’t likely redeem himself, she set up a situation where he could and likely would hurt her or kill her. By removing the gloves she also knew she’d be able to scratch him and ensure his DNA was under her fingernails. That way, it would be easier to identify him as her killer. (She obviously had no way of knowing they’d burn her body.)
In her mental state, it seems that she was ready to die for her cause. By putting her necklace in the cash register for her friend, Cassie showed that she knew she likely wouldn’t be back. By sacrificing her life, she knew the rest of her plan would play out (via timed messages and the video being sent to the lawyer), and thoroughly destroy every one who had hurt Nina both directly and indirectly by not coming forward or taking the allegations seriously.
So that was my take on this amazing movie. Anyone else have any thoughts?
Specifically, what are your thoughts regarding the red and blue marks & names in her journal & the timing and reason for removing her gloves before she was supposedly about to cut into someone with a scalpel?
I love your assessment and I agree.
With the red and blue pens, I wondered if it was situations where she got hurt-then tied to your thoughts, she actually had to use self defense against them? Thoughts? But I thought she got hurt and wasn’t able to leave as easily. Because I can’t imagine all of them being that smooth.
The gloves, honestly I didn’t even think about that! Good catch! And I agree that I think in case it all went badly, she wanted evidence. And she was willing to die. It was for the cause but I also wonder if it was her giving up on her future. Pretty sure she would never be able to trust another guy again. Never being able to move past it so there is no financial future. She didn’t have anything left (in her eyes) that would make her want to stay. And with AL’s admittance, she no longer wanted to be in that world but she could still make a difference.
I loved the movie. It was tough to watch. (Not been raped, but have been in situations where it turned unsafe or just being a woman outside) ALLLL THE LINES USED BY THE MEN! Oh my heavens! Like, “It’s ok. You’re safe.” At the beginning of the movie made me want to vomit. I have definitely had, “Why do you have to ruin all the fun!?” Yelled at me for not wanting to go along with the guy-and I was sober. Etc etc. they had it all.
I wonder if in some way Cassie planned to die that night. Like she knew even with the video there would never be justice for Nina, so she planned her own death and made sure the police would know who to arrest.
I thought Cassie waited so long to exact revenge on Al and the others was because it felt too close to home? Like, maybe hearing their names would invoke severe anxiety and she feels capable now because enough time had passed.
I think honestly, what chance did she had? Nina had reported it and from Alfred Molina's character we know she took Al to court and lost. Who's going to believe Cassie? Molina said it best, a drunk girl is destroyed by a jury. Plus Al was out of the country until the wedding. Cassie did not do anything until she had the video, before that she could not have done anything.
The name of the film, Promising Young Woman, is powerful because it’s how the media portrays a lot of young, white, male perpetrators. Brock Turner was an athlete and he was dubbed “A promising young man” before only serving a few months. Devastating, yes, but the message there is clear.
it was obvious to me that Nina is a close friend that was loved dearly. Cassie had a big heart and it was broken in a big way.
I've been looking for a break down of the ending of this film but specifically Ryan's part. (And can't find anything). When he lies to the police, is he protecting himself, his friends (covering for them bro-code) or covering for her ??? He still goes to the wedding! Knowing either they raped her or killed her. Did he ever truly love her? (Where's the anger at his friends) who's he looking out for? himself or his friends or the system of machismo that helps cover this things up?
Your questions have got to be rhetorical. It’s obvious that Ryan was doing whatever it took to protect himself. That was his only priority. He didn’t care about anything else but saving his own ass and reputation.
He STILL didn’t see his role in the rape. Notice how when Cassie confronted him, his mask slipped and he called her a failure? Just like when he saw her in the coffee shop and asked her (with disgust, disdain, pity, or all three) why she worked there? He’s the same coward he was in med school. He didn’t stop the rape, he watched and laughed. He couldn’t ask out Cassie in med school because she was so good and brilliant that he couldn’t handle it, although he liked her.
Now that she’s no longer intimidating to him (she works in a coffee shop, in his mind she’s no longer the bright med student he knew) he now feels comfortable approaching her and expressing his romantic interest in her. She’s less threatening because she isn’t outshining him anymore, academically or professionally. Oh, and remember how they “coincidentally” end up in front of his apartment building at the end of the walk he takes her on after their date? 🙄 And he’s friendly enough with rapist Al that he still went to his wedding! AND he let the cop think Cassie was crazy rather than speak up and tell the truth because if he did, he’d (potentially) go to jail and lose everything.
Come on, now. The answers to your questions are all right there in the film on the screen. The film does a good job of making it seem like Ryan matured and gained more confidence as time passed while also giving us clues the whole time that he hasn’t changed at all. Ryan is a POS just like the rest of the assholes and “nice guys” in the film. He’s the same guy he was in med school the night he did nothing but watch and laugh while Nina was raped.
I'm so happy I stumbled upon your review. I've been looking at some reviews of this movie made my men and I've literally heard guys say "yeah I think abuse is wrong, but we've all done stupid things" or "yeah I understand what they meant, but I didn't think the message applies to me" or even "yeah this is a man hate movie" like... did you fail to notice women in this movie are criticized as well? I'm genuinely worried about society
Just 2 women tho every man outside of her father was made to look like a sexist jackasslike the guy in the car who put up aside her at the stoplight like what guy actually does that it bothered me a little bit but it didn't take away from the movie I give it a I give it a 6 out of 10
@@nottodayimbusy7146 Not really. In the end the father was just as sucked in in this mentality, and it is proven when he says "She always does this, she'll come back" like justifying her missing by implying that she goes out and sleeps around. And if you've never seen guys act like some of those assholes in the movie, that trust me, you're lucky. It really happens to us all the time
@@adesays I won't touch that last part cause that will lead to an argument but I will say this that seems more like a personal experience thing not a universal thing.. anyways I don't know if I would call the father a bad guy like the other people simply because he was right she's been known to do exactly what he said she does it's not like he's making it up she did that all the time so he assumed it was the same this time doesn't make him a bad guy like you claim btw he never said or implied she slept around
@@nottodayimbusy7146 this movie is not made to make you ‘hate men’. I have been victim of many of the attitudes shown in the characters and I do not think ‘all men are trash’ or anything like that. For me the message was more about the fact that sometimes people who seem like “nice guys” or even people who love you are caught up in a mentality that is so integrated in the way we see te world that we don’t realize how harmful it can be. Even as women we sometimes have certain attitudes or comments that can affect another woman’s life as shown in the movie
Exactly. I see this so much. After Me Too, instead of men being horrified about the amount of women that have experienced abuse, and using the movement as a harrowing motivation to look at themselves, their friends and family, and the patriarchy in general, SO MANY MEN’S response was: not all men. Utterly fucking depressing.
Merry Christmas Nick & Joseph! 🎁🎄❤️
Thanks for the review. Will have to check this one out. Sounds like a trip!
Happy Holidays, Nick and Joseph! 🎄❤️
Hey there Fish Jelly, Thanks for your awesome review. It's my first time watching your show, and I appreciate your casual, conversational, but thorough approach to the movie review. I watched a few other reviews for PYW but your plot summary and interpretations were most enriching and explanatory. As an assault survivor, I'm not ready to watch this film yet, but your take is warming me up to the occasion. Thanks again for all your efforts 🙏!
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I don’t think it was just that she heard AL’s name as such, but more so the fact that she heard that he was living a ‘great’ life, successful career, life abroad and now returned home to marry his bikini model GF. In her opinion he stole that life from Nina and to some extent her. It was one thing that he got away with it at the time, but to hear he was now “Living the Dream” when her friend had paid such a high price for his crime was the impotence that spurred her revenge, the fact that she ultimately paid an equivalent price to get that was actually, I think, beautiful mirroring of themes and narrative. I think her character would have behaved differently if she had heard that he was a wasted life, or some how it seemed he was living with the burden of his actions... I think this was demonstrated with the lawyer, his contrition and remorse was enough for her. She wasn’t deranged to the extent that she was unmovable in the face of his admission of guilt and regret, teamed with the fact that he remembered her friend and it haunted him. She accepted that he had paid his dues and obviously believed in his redemption enough to trust him to avenge her if/when she died.
Her countless situations where she “scared men straight” I think were to her a penance she felt she should or could pay for how she believed she failed her friend by not being there and subsequently not being able to right that wrong enough after to save her from what we have to assume was Suicide.
Happy Holidays Nick and Joseph!
And that movie sounds like a creepy psychological thriller.
The Molina scene also shows, that while she's here for revenge, she is also able to listen if someone understands what they did..
Although, as evidenced right after that scene, she did intend to have him either roughed up or killed.
great review!! can't wait to see more from you two, subscribed!!
First time watching you guys and I really like your introspection.
Subscribed and looking forward to seeing more of your reviews.
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the soundtrack looks amazing and the movie I hope and pray will play at a drive in
Thank you for spoiling this movie since they're not releasing this streaming! Looking forward to seeing it.
Right..force me to unnecessary exposure I think NOT. These studios are going to learn the hard way, so be it. I really wanted to see this while chilling on my holiday couch, wine, charcuterie and PJs Welp
I watched it on cinema on firetv
@@labelladonna9122 thx 🤔
Its on Amazon Prime right now! I waited til I saw it to come here 😉
I want to know what the color of Talleys in Cassie's book represents any ideas? There was blue, black and red.
Maybe how far they got with her? Kissing? Digital penetration?
Yassssss, Serial Mom shirt.... give me life!
Merry Christmas! 🌲🌨️🥂🎁⛄🧑🎄
I adore emerald Fennell and I feel like “Promising Young Woman” is the perfect continuation of her previous work in “killing eve”, complex flawed female character who drives a humorous thriller plot.
I personally applaud the bravery of emerald Fennell for her bravery and having the ovaries to make a BOLD movie about such a complicated topic.
Thank you so much for the spoiler review, I don’t know when the movie will arrive to my country (spain) so it’s nice to know what’s about.
Elderly?? The actress is 35 in real life 🤦🤦🤦
I love the cruel intention-ish type ending 😍😍
"A little elderly" - you are too much! She's also starred in Drive w/ ryan gosling :) . Great review gentlemen!
I watched it on Cinema on firetv. The movie made me sad. Very well done if that's what the intent was.
I also love how you never see Nina in person. Nina is in essence the main character but you don't see her just the people who hurt her and Cassie who became her voice because they stole away her best friend
Actually that's what bothered me the most is that you never saw Nina she feels more like a prop in the movies than an actual person I feel like the movie could have been taken to another level and gone even deeper if her friendship with Cassie was shown in the movie it would have made us sympathize with her even more and made the ending even more heartbreaking when she dies
@@nottodayimbusy7146 point of not seeing Nina is because Nina was silenced, she no longer had a voice once what was done had been done to her and a lot of women feel that way. The way Cassie describes Nina is heart breaking.
@@labelladonna9122 I guess we would have to agree to disagree cuz I made my point and i still feel that way it would have been better to see Nina and Cassie's relationship to make you feel more strongly about her getting revenge against all these men Rather be just having her repeated over and over again like I said she felt like a prop as opposed to an actual person I get what you're saying I guess but the way they didn't need to kind of takes something away from the movie to me
Daaaaaamn… look at that ‘Criterion Collection’ collection! 🤓
Can't wait to see the movie, soundtrack is amazing!!!! Great Review! Can't say but Nick seems to understand. ♥️ a lot from me...wish we could just chat but hangin in my dear
The soundtrack is amazing this and Birds of Prey have been the best soundtracks this year
Sad twisted and disturbing watched the whole movie and I was shocked but sad at the same time great review guys
I just caught this movie n was so delighted ta c yall had uh review... good 1 boys🥰... I too get Brees mixed up
Ladies take self defense classes like Impact! The chocking scene was so frustrating to watch, there were so many obvious ways to get out of it! Her legs were available & he had only one arm free. I kept screaming at the screen how to get out 💪🏼💋 Sadly she didn’t hear me but you can! Take Self Defense classes for women. We have so much strength in our legs & thighs. Just need the training & confidence to use them 💗
MEN stop raping women! Take some empathy classes for men. Just need to understand that women are human beings and shouldn't be hurt. 💗
I love it in so many aspects; quite good was the word 'rape' was never used.
I cannot begin to tell you how much I've thought about it.
Music and scream at the start of the smother scene, Epic.
The one scene with Alfred Molina broke me. It was great. I was so glad they introduced characters that were not pure evil, and actually have regrets, like a real person.
I had trouble thinking that she "won" in the end. Al was begging her to stop; she also cuffed him and was about to carve initials into his chest.... So like you both stated, I was expecting a Kill Bill type ending.
“She’s got a lot of check marks cause she’s a CRUSADER” hahah 😂
Can anyone tell me why Cassie had blood all over her after leaving Adam Brody's house in the beginning of the movie? That really threw me off! I originally thought she was killing all these dudes!
It was ketchup from the hotdog she was eating.
I believe it was ketchup because later in the movie when she is going home with the guy in the fedora he talks about how he knows how Jerry lived and went home with a crazy girl it didn't sound like she did anything to him just scared him.
Yay!!! I really enjoyed this film and was excited to see that my favorite movie reviewers posted it! Thank you fellas!! So my question is, is this Jack Nicholson's son in one of the three guys at the very beginning of the movie? Is post shadowing a phrase? 🤔🤔🤔 Really enjoyed this movie! I thought it was fresh and new ideas!! Thank you guys as always ❤️❤️❤️
This movie was such a gut-punch. I so felt what Nick said a little after 8:46, that the movie didn't give the catharsis I thought it was offering. But I really liked it. (Once again I'm performing my ritual of searching for the Fish Jelly review after finishing a movie.
are you guys doing a play on the In Living Color sketch??
Whatever do you mean?
This appears 100 percent straightforward.
This is a Christmas Gift Thank You very very very much!!!!!!!!!! I still can't wait to see this movie 😩 😍 😁
One of the most shocking endings of all time! Enjoyed the film, a solid 8/10 for me.
I think Promising Young Woman should've won the best picture Oscar. IT WAS ROBBED, I TELL YA!
I just saw the movie. Certainly not the best I've ever seen (some elements were a bit too contrived for me), but it kept my interest. I'm on the other side of the ending divide. I liked the ending because: #1, I didn't expect it (sometimes I don't even care what happens in a movie as long as I can't accurately guess it). #2, I thought her behavior was right on track with the patterns of a fragile person, who seemed capable of diving into a sharp or erratic spiral at any time.
The scene in which she had just viewed the video and escaped outdoors reminded me of the end of the 1976 movie Sybil, when Sybil was with the doctor outdoors reconnecting with the whole of herself (but in this case, the character connecting with the grandness of this issue alone). I was led to a letting to, a release, possibly hopelessness for her, with a burning drive for something I couldn't put my finger on. In the bedroom scene, both Cassie and the guy (forgot name) take turns in a crucifix position in the bed, while the scene cuts back to the cross on her uniform. I think the sacrificial element is interesting in relation to such a heavy topic and helps to better explain her choice.
I felt inappropriate laughing at times, but I think the comedic elements helped to emphasize the absurdity of a situation that we allow to continue, while providing distance from a painful topic. It also brought me to a point of wondering if my laughter was triggered by the same type of insensitivity portrayed by most of the characters.
Maybe it's because no one wanted to punish the boys for it, they are making it like a very trivial thing. It's like if a soldier rapes a woman during combat and there is very little evidence: they chock it off to fog of war. And so in order for them not to see her revenge coming, she moves on but all the while biding her time and looking for some way to strike back. Before the existence of the video of Ninna's rape she was helpless and so the perpetrators and any one involved with the events of that day: totally brushed it off and assumes she moved on and forgot. That's when the sneak attack comes.
One issue I had with this movie was the believability of Cassie’s weekend pretend-drunken escapades. I simply had too many questions. Like did she ever encounter a man who became violent? It seems like for what she’s doing, she’d have more violent encounters. If so, howd she get out of that? I know she’s not supposed to be superwoman, but at the same time in order to achieve what she did for such a long time she would have HAD to have some sort of combat training through the years or a gun maybe? A knife? Idk. I’d like to see how those events unfolded more, especially since that’s the whole premise of the movie. I know that’s not the POINT of the movie, but i feel like it was set up in a way that leaned into the John-Wick revenge story while still attempting to subvert it and at the same time it ended up raising more questions than answering them. I had a few other questions but I think this was my biggest one. I just wasn’t buying that she just went around acting like a boogie woman without any serious repercussions. I also wasn’t buying the fact that she didn’t think to tie Al’s legs down in the end scene, but I get it...she’s not an assassin or anything. It just didn’t seem like a mistake Cassie would make, especially considering she’s so smart throughout the rest of the film.
wow , what great and thought provoking movie.
I will admit, Carrie has a lot of commitment to righting wrongs outside the normal justice system. One thing I was wondering was about the lawyer. Why does he know to wait or expect Cassie? Did word get around about this mysterious woman that he would know was related to him?
I finally watched this movie and the entire time I kept thinking to myself, “WHO THE FUCK TOLD HER SHE COULD BE CAST AS A 30 year OLD?!” Wyte women really be getting a PASS in Hollywood. It looked like she was dating her son 😅 Like BFFR
Wonderful Review. I agree The hair = NOPE
Not a little elderly 🤣
Didn't she say that she thought Al Munroe was living in London? I think she didn't enact vengeance earlier, he was out of her reach.
Turning 30 my ass... what? The actress is only 35? Oh dear...
I’ve watched this movie 3 TIMES I lovvvvvvved it
Randos gotta learn 🤷🏻♀️
Calling Carrie Mulligan old ...triggered
The reason Cassie's death scene was so long was because that's how long it would take to smoother someone.
Um Drive!!
Lord knows I love me a bad bitch on a mission!
I think they say what happened to Nina. She took her own life after what happened. She dropped out of med school and then took her own life while these men moved on, married and had successful lives as if nothing had happened.
Boy would I like to be the filling in this sandwich.
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People, probably of a certain complexion, are so delusional to think she looks 29-30 in this movie… I cannot with the upset comments with cries of misogyny lol
Carey Mulligan is a British actress who has a strong command of the American accent.
elderly?? dam bro chill ik we not used to normal looking 30 yr old women in hollywood but she not elderly😭💀
Do you think that character looked thirty-years-old?
@@fishjellyfilmreviews i just watched it and thought she must have been like 30-35
@@fishjellyfilmreviews i was surprised at how young the actress looked cause i immediately looked up reviews and analysis lmao
also my bad im readin all the comments and everyones already told u
My 14 - 15 year old acquaintance passed out at a party, bunch of older kids, not well known to her, rural area far from home, few neighbours. She's getting gang raped. The boy who became my boyfriend a few years later was huge for his age, hockey, the star football player gets in the room, starts to fight them, tries to stop it... Got severely beaten... Cries, had to crawl away and hide, afraid for his life. I know he had life long trauma, unable to be sexual, very disturbed non-violent but like chronic anxiety and barely did anything normally. Barely talked normally... Kept getting falsely accused of crimes just because he read as weird. He eventually became very cruel to me for no reason, we broke up... He gets a huge football scholarship to the best university, gets halfway there and crashes. I think on purpose... Males are hurt by rape too. Males are not heartless.
I'm so sorry he went through this and you as well. It's a societal sickness
I couldn't disagree with this review more...I thought this film was garbage...such a disappointment...how are you going to deal with a topic as serious as this with a movie full of caricatures...unless I missed it there wasn't one single mark in her notebook (out of hundreds!) to denote when someone had helped her out? Not once? So there isn't a shred of humanity in this world our protagonist inhabits? Except of course for the cartoonish lawyer...literally just waiting for her to show up so he can instantly fall to his knees (the usually delightful actor Alfred Molina absolutely wasted)...and she of course is so incredibly noble and good that she can actually stop her car in the middle of the road (incredibly unsafe much?) but it's ok I guess cuz she's thinking really deep feminist thoughts or something? And when a dude stops to point out that maybe this is a bad idea...he is of course the bad guy...calling her horrible names...cuz well...just cuz...and of course we had the all-that-was-wrong-with-me-too moment of literally mocking the concept of innocent-until-proven-guilty...probably the only theme in this movie that isn't dispiriting...and I'm no movie-expert Nick but about 5 minutes after the love-interest showed up I knew there was going to be a video and he was going to be one of the baddies...really the only thing I didn't see coming was that batsh*t ending that was too contrived and over-the-top for even this travesty...sorry to go off on a rant...but as a female that was a black-out drunk from age fifteen to twenty-one (and still battle it) I really needed more from this...I sure as hell did...this was the easy-out-live-in-the-echo-chamber-why-feminism-is-the-exception total POS that nobody really needed...
Spot on 💯
And over 30 IS NOT ELDERLY - omg I will not calm down
It angries me that reviewers commented more on the soundtrack than the real issue, being rape culture going on. How come no one comments on that... her hair? really?
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@@fishjellyfilmreviews Really, guys? Her hair? her age? Anyway, it doesn't really matter, you are entitled to your opinion, my comment was not meant to bother you, it's just every other reviewer is commenting the same thing. I wish the conversation could move from the "aesthetics" to the issue the director tried to convey.
I've heard good things about this movie from many different reviewers. And I've been looking forward to watching it. However this is the first time I heard about the shocking turn of events. And I have to say I'm seriously thinking about changing my mind and not watching this movie. Which is unfortunate. But I simply can't see how that ending wouldn't ruin the movie for me. I mean great...the guy gets arrested at his wedding in the end......whoopty do. The main character is still dead at the hands of the main antagonist. How depressing is that. It's bad enough that apparently her relationship with Bo's character goes sour, just because Im a huge fan of Bo Burnham and he seems like a really cool character in this movie. But I could deal with that. The main character being killed in horrific fashion by the bad guy right before he's about to receive his just punishment.....not so much.
I completely agree with everything. The fact that she looks so much older was a bit distracting, they should have changed the story to justify an older character. The repented lawyer was a bit much for me too, but also.... wouldn't have been more interesting if she was a serial killer? I mean the movie already seems set in an alternate reality with the pastel colors, the pop soundtrack, and the general vibe. She's small, cute, and blonde, I think it was a wasted opportunity not to make her a serial killer. I went into this movie expecting to see a series of murders and I'm very disappointed 😂
UPDATE
I watched interviews and reviews and rewatched the movie again and I change my mind. There's a reason for everything in the movie and these choises work on different levels. Also I'm starting to like Cassey's wrinkles 😁
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She does look 45 just being honest in the face especially.
She does. She looks like she could be a mother to a teenager or child
Even though she's 35 in real life
Can anyone say Brett Kavanaugh
I think this movie was awful...like the message was so strong and had great potential to be an amazing movie, but the execution was just totally botched. The movie felt all over the place and was teetering in between realistic and unrealistic. I’m just really disappointed, this could have been an amazing movie. Honestly felt disrespectful to even make this movie this way
I saw it and I was a little disappointed. Based on the trailer I thought the protagonist was an assassin.
I really didn’t like bo burnham in the movie, they definitely should’ve used a different actor
Im totally okay that she died in the bachelor party. The guys there were horrible of course but she was trying to hurt, even torture, the guy so he really just act in self defense. I would do that too, no question. She cant run around and revenge, she is the same level of bad person like all the guys she want to hurts.
The guys should call police after all of course.
She planned on him killing her. She intended for him to kill her. She set everything up knowing that would be the outcome
@@labelladonna9122 I dont think so. The automatic text massages were like a
insurance in my opinion. And its still self-defense.
@@GERMANYkev I do otherwise the handcuffs would've been more secure. She literally throws something into the woods for evidence when she gets to the bachelor party before making the walk. She counted on him killing her she wanted to be with Nina and she knew the only way Al would pay for what he did would be through her death
She planned on him killing her and shes not even close to being as bad as those people that drugged, raped , filmed and laughed at a that girl
@@pircjkrgko7869 Scratching names with a knife in the skin while you tied up its equal in my opinion.
I was so bothered and sad that Cassie died. Damn