Alternative Genres Are White "Safe Spaces"? STINKPIECE
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- čas přidán 31. 12. 2016
- In this video, I'm responding to an ignorant piece of clickbait being passed off as music writing that paints all alternative genres--but specifically alternative rock--as a "safe space" for whites. Our writer fails to address the plethora of alt genres where that's obviously not the case, and so much more.
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Y'all know this is just my opinion, right? - Hudba
althony rightano
Anthony is a liberal.
Just laugh at the joke, dude.
because the joke sucked. because hes not buying this sjw super left shit he cant be liberal? fuck off with that
Nojumperrrrrrrrrrrrrr
No Jumper ay, what's up??? I'll hit you guys out if I ever. SJW it out to the west coast this year for that interview. ❤️
“Alt rock stations don’t play hip hop”
Hmmmm there seems to be a lack of snow in this scorching desert
LMFAO WORD
That's the point of genre-oriented radio stations, right?
but my local alternative station played a LOT of hip-hop
99X played the absolute shit out of the Beastie Boys, Cypress Hill, De La Soul, etc.
That's not even true because my station 94.5 the buzz, will play thr occasional beastie boys, run dmc, even insane in the brain by cypress hill
Sorry to be that guy but. . . Antarctica is a desert. 🤣
Alt-right
Alt-ernative music
MY GOD
Dick Dastardly Cue Z-Files theme
we're through the looking glass here, people
@@andrewroberts7428 one of my favorite songs :)
that actually loses all meaning on all other latin derived languages, as we often use the word "extreme" to discribe an "alt-" political view
Ayy who liked my comment? Fan of The La's huh.
Loved this, wouldnt mind if you thrashed garbage articles like this more
Not too much though. He's a music critic, he has to stay out of the youtube circlejerk a little bit.
He has to stay in his box cuz SJWs feel uncomfortable with his skin tone... plus he has a bald head... Ru$$iA!
ThePleasantYukkuri lol what is wrong with more viewers? Especially if it's an interesting video like this one.
I believe theyre referring to the original article getting more views
ThePleasantYukkuri If the article has a comment section, then why not encourage more people to voice their opinion right under the article and let the editors know that this kind of crap won't be tolerated. If it doesn't have a comment section, then yeah, I see your point. Typically, websites that are not a major news organization and/or outsource their articles will have the comment section. I'm on my way to check which one Fuse is.
Well, Alt-righty then...
Some Black Guy aaayyyyyyyy
oooohhhh i get it, you change the word "all-righty" to "alt-righty" cause of that group, clever...
how ya doin?
Some Black Guy ba dum tss, dang late to that joke
LOL
wow a 10/10?????
and he gave MBDTF a 2 fml
Whitegirlturnupmusic/10
She really wrote RATM as a white band? Nah this has got to be some high tier trolling.
flmvdvsrg tom is half kenyan i believe
In fact RATM were more white than any other race... Morello & De La Rocha are both half black half white... and the other 2 are white... so it makes statistically 75 % of the band is white
skankhunt 42 level trollong haha
+Tylann I do not say that they are white... but majoritary white... i am of 3 races as well... so i do not talk from a white point of view... i think i'm more neutral because i'm multi-racial... I am western european and not north american... so i am probably less obsessed by this thematic than the U.S. society is
De La Rocha s half Mexican. The big clue is his name.
Wow this writer sounds so painfully ignorant it’s maddening, especially as a black person with diverse musical tastes that includes alternative music.
I suppose her next article will be on how the alt keys on her computer are also racist.
Control - N-word - Delete. Is the proper way to close a running program on your computer. Duhhhh. Haha
If your alt key is white, then it's alt-white and alt-right woahhhhh
You should do more of these, Anthony. The amount of headass that's in some music articles is insane
Chano For Mayor 😂😂😂😂
I dunno it would stress him out from all the self righteous Stupidity
maybe then we'd get another cal tape
Lilo headass?
did you read the article mtv did on death grips?
RATM a white band? wtf? Two of them are hispanic and one is half black. This article is so stupid that it made my head hurt.
I would also like to mention that RATM identifies as Libertarian Socialist and thus roping them in with the Alt-right is fucking stupid.
Slight mistake. So Zach is Mexican, Irish and German, Brad is Polish, Tom is Kikuyu Kenyan, Irish and Italian and Tim is French and Irish. So that would be one person is half hispanic-half white, one half black-half white, one white and the last is a Polish Jew. I had thought I read somewhere that Brad was hispanic but it was an honest mistake. I don't believe this invalidates my point though. It should be noted that anti-Jewish and anti-Polish sentiments are often carried by white supremacists.
In fact RATM were more white than any other race... Morello & De La
Rocha are both half black half white... and the other 2 are white... so
it makes statistically 75 % of the band is white
Yes this is America ...too many people don't like the "in-between" categories ...
Here in western Europe things are not as extreme ... i am partially black myself ...most people considere me as a "metis" or "mixed-up" origin...
Riley Hogan The drummer is Jewish, the lead singer is Hispanic with a little Jewish, the guitarist is half black half white, and the bass guitarist is white, or possibly Jewish.
I'm like 90% certain that this was a total clickbait article that Fushion published just cause they know that clickbait is the only successful way to market media today.
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Had to click show more to see the end of bingo. Did not disappoint.
you're right
only 90%? Orange Man Bad media makes a lot of money off of making leftists hate everything.
Someone should have also informed the article's writer that there's a far-right theme-park in England called Alt-on Towers.
bad brains is all I have to say
Cyano Mod exactly
Cyano Mod word
I guess if they were knowledgeable enough they would try to counter with Minor Threat "Guilty of being White", Skrewdriver, and One Life Crew
I can't believe the silly girl didn't attack hardcore punk, she might have almost had an argument.
add God forbid and suffocation to the list.
Jordan minor threat is left wing anti racism. with guilty of being white they only mention racism on whites like its happening today from the sjw.
screwdriver are classical Nazi rockers. they don't have much in common.
"she" "she" "she" Did you just assume her gender Fantano??? :^)
kylefcb1 Did *you* just assume *her* gender.
hahaha u made me laugh
+Will imgur.com/a/KpdRV
am I missing somthing? we know the written, she's a female. he didn't assume anything
brandan matthews yes you're missing something: the joke.
music is supposed to be a safe place for all people
According to you.
death grips has something to say about that
@@Joshau735 Deathgrips is my safe space u w u
Is that Omar Higgins as your pfp?
@@purpled4864 Hey I had to google him to see if you were trying to roast me 🤣. My pfp is myself. Thank you for being a catalyst for new music 🙏🏽
Wait so Rage Against The Machine are Nazis now?
The horseshoe theory is so deep it's gone through 10 wormholes, but somehow has ended up here
Fusion trying hard to be the new Gawker.
Hopefully Hulk Hogan sues them too.
Groove Gamer you're gonna be on gahwkerrr
Why does color apply to the sense of hearing?
i've heard you can see colors match to specific chord progressions or something, idk tho
There is no such thing as white ethnicity! What a fucking moron!
Race refers to a person's physical characteristics, such as bone structure and skin, hair, or eye color.
Ethnicity refers to cultural factors, such as nationality, regional culture, ancestry, and language.
If you only learn one thing today, please let it be this.
El Americano white people do have culture. British, Nordic, Irish are all white.
This might be the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
"I mean who do you think the audience for this article will be?"
Nailed it, Anthony.
Milothony Yiannopolistano.
Someone sent me the same article a few weeks ago and I meant to talk about it but never got around to it. Now I don't have to. Cosign everything said here!
Dead End Hip Hop for life!!!
I watch your channel sometimes
The writer of the article doesn't address actual genres that have been "safe spaces" for white supremacists/neo-nazis, namely black metal and Oi!. I don't even understand what point the author was trying to make. Most artists in any alternative genre are left-leaning in the first place. R.E.M, Midnight Oil, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Aesop Rock, A Tribe Called Quest, Digable Planets, The Weeknd, Fleet Foxes, Slipknot, KoRn, The Knife, Lucinda Williams, Björk, Public Image Ltd, Kemba, all these artists either made music or have members with outspoken political views that are pretty liberal. And, as you said, there have been many, MANY alternative bands with non-white members, a lot of them pretty big names like Smashing Pumpkins, Alice In Chains, or Soundgarden.
The whole whole article is just clickbaity bullshit, meant to get people baffled by the title to click on it for views or for people who are uninformed in music history to somehow believe it.
I find it really odd when clickbait writers point to subcultures that are enclaves of (for want of a better phrase) SJWs, and claim that they're a hotbed of racism or sexism. I mean, if the writer is right, then surely it's an admission that their whole ideology is completely faulty. Same goes for those feminist-written articles claiming that male feminists are all misogynists. If that's the case, you may as well abandon feminism right now.
The entire idea that a music genre can be a safe space is absolutely ridiculous. Also, while I'm not very familiar with Oi!, Black Metal isn't a "safe space" for neo-nazis, most of that genre's community disavow any sort of racism. Besides, any genre of music will have shitty people of some kind or another following it.
Solatic Syot I'm specifically talking about National Socialist Black Metal along with people like Burzum (if there's enough people for there to be an entire separate genre of it, it's notable). Oi! didn't start out as a nazi genre, but it got taken over by neo-nazis and it's pretty much the go-to sound for white supremacists now.
If you think Black Metal is a Nazi genre then then you're being really lazy here.
Terence Aaron National Socialist Black Metal. There are a ton of nazis in black metal.
Alternative genres too white? Has this woman never heard of Black Francis?!?
Or sevendust, ill nino nonpoint, Yeah white indeed.
Or Frank Black
This hardcore ghetto, gangster image takes a lot of practice. I’m not black like Barry White no I am white like Frank Black is.
0:51 Yep, why did I think the author of this article would look any other way.
Ikr
She seems to think the word "alternative" is intrinsically linked to the alt right simply because it has alt in its name. Let me tear my hair out for a few moments
Kicking off the new year with a smackdown, I love it.
holy shit you should read the article mtv did about death grips and badbadnotgood. worst article i have ever read
Joe Geraci do you have a link to that?
link?(preferably archive)
Damn, that's absolute hog shit. What purpose does that thing serve?
Karma Policeman what thing
HAHAHAHAHAHA it's almost as if you guys have to go out of your way to find the most extreme examples to get outraged by. MTV? Who still reads them? They're just as relevant as Rolling Stone is.
Also bands like nirvana were alternative rock and they were extremely anti racist
They're Grunge and they suck
What songs by Nirvana have antiracist lyrics? I am only familiar with there most well known songs. They where against racism like most people but I don't think their music dealt with those topics.
@@RichardCranium. I think token Easter song is about how poc people had to just ignore the racism and not speak up
@@shmegol1140 I read the lyrics and I don't think they are.
mac demarco is a white safespace lol
YUNG BACKPACK wassup Jaylen
he makes music for pasty boring white people trying to look cool
hello wait did fantano delete my comment? I actually really like mac demarco lol
That's a dumb thing to say.
Hardly if you compare him to Ariel Pink or John Maus.
Someone sang "Happy Birthday" to Richard Spencer once, so all Birthday and Alt-Birthday genre songs normalize white supremacy
I don’t know about rock, but I think we need to have a conversation about these alt keys on keyboards.
KEEP RACE AND MUSIC SERPERATED! ANYBODY CAN MAKE ANYTHING.
Thats impossible to do
Kwame So certain races of people cant make certain genres of music? lolwut
Cody Cullum no one said that dummy. I said it impossible to keep race out of music
Kwame Touche, but it is possible to not be a dumb twat about it like the author of the article. Whilst many genres of music intertwine with culture, genres arent defined by the race that predominantly makes up that culture.
Cody Cullum never did i ever say i agreed with the dumbass article
Her equating conscious rap with being white is kinda insulting to us black people that like, think, y'know?
and this happens not only here in music.
I am eager to see more of this series
Well
Tough
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Wy Vern: I noticed you in other threads using actual neo-Nazi symbolism like echoes, so I'd recommend you don't watch the next video in this series.
George Orwell was a lifelong socialist Echo quotes is not a neo nazi thing. It's something people use to emphasize the fact that the person or group they are talking about is either in an echo chamber or is an echo chamber respectively.
"My favorite alt genre is the alt-right"
-Anthony Fantano
I like how Anthony actually knows what the fuck he's talking about. nice video baldthony memetano
That moment when your fav genre is alternative rock and metal, so I became a white supremacist by having a certain choice in music.
Way to start off the year, Swanthony Tonbombo. Haha.
Dante LAN-I-ER Broken Matthony Hardtano
Nice. What's the broken for?
Dante LAN-I-ER it's Matt hardy's current gimmick, just search broken Matt hardy and you won't be disappointed.
Haha. Alright. Thanks.
Dante LAN-I-ER Np brother nero
Pls continue to do videos like this. Thanks!
You should make more of these types of videos, this was auper entertaining!
Alt-ony Rightano
You are a genius 👌🏻✌🏻
Nice t shirt though
Chris Ramirez Alt-Thony*
Whoa they made that shirt into a profile picture
Apparently they also made an album out of it!
This article is worse than Speeding Bullet 2 Heaven...
So glad this is on the main channel.
The idea that conscious hip hop is the antithesis of artists like Tupac is ridiculous. Artists like a Tribe called Quest, Mos Def, and MF DOOM are EXTENSIONS of artists like Tupac. Their music focuses even more heavily on political issues and draw attention to societal problems even more explicitly.
While ignoring that most black issues are self inflicted
Yay!!! More think/discussion pieces!!! I miss these...
you should definitely do more of this - music journalism is going down the pan.
that hootie and the blowfish interlude was actually fucking hilarious oml
Really like your style of exposition here. I thought that slow and steady way to build an argument was just something that comes more natural when dissecting an album or band but no, you have it in article analysis too. Makes it easy to listen to you
I thought those type of people are pro safe spaces?
Andrew Pinzon only the right safe spaces
Andrew Pinzon Not if white people create their own
It has become really annoying to read some articles in some portals. Noisey, Pitchfork, Fuse...all of them tend to be really biased and see racial ans sexism prolems where they dont exist, or if it does exist they tend to radicalize it. But honestly, I think it is everywhere- people are trying to put ideology on their writing to prove their point and ignoring many things- thanks for this video, that proved it wasnt only me who was kinda shocked on some pieces of writing.
That Hootie & the Blowfish snippet has me dying. Good shit mang.
Madthony Flametano is my fav type of Anthony. Somethin about Anthony sayin "fuck" just tickles my pickle.
You should do more discussion videos like this
No. Don't give them attention.
we need more cal cuchesta
Washed Out's Life of Leisure record was the first thing I noticed in this vid. Good shit.
Good video to start off the year althony rightano jkjkjk I love ur vids man I respect ur thoughts on music
antny your alt channel is a safe place for outros
STOP MIXING RACE WITH MUSIC 2017. (music is free and should be as such for the rest of time.)
Hassan Abdillahi STOP RACE MIXING WITH MUSIC 2017 (jk)
:DDD
Would love to see more of these, maybe you don't have to do them all the time but just every so often would be cool
It's my favorite MRA music vlogger, Altrighthony Fascistano! Sick vid!
Alternative genres are racist
Alt rap: I'm I a joke to you
Pretty sure Death Grips (an alternative genre band) ain’t a safe space for anyone...
but to be fair, if you have every been to one of their shows, like 95% of the audience is white dudes.
@@francojosemuertes4273 who gives a fuck
Please do more of these videos.
Jeff Tweedy: “laughs in alt-country”
Political Correctness and censorship are awsome and we definitely need more of them in society
Sample Text Irony lovers only
Top Text
Sample Text Oh great Trigglypuff tell me how to behave in public.
Agreed comrade
That is doubleplus goodthink
Bloc Party?
Didn't read the article but thanks for the hugely entertaining rant:)
you should do like a monthly modern music history video/article
Does the musician ever mention alt-rock bands from... oooohhhhh I dunnnnoooo... Japan?
Cuz there's a fuckton of alternative rock bands from Japan.
But they're all shit you Weeb
@@jamesmecs7627 what about the pillows?
@@bobsnob3073 weeb
@@jamesmecs7627 That's a nice way to ridicule yourself
@@vz2428 not rlly...
Weeb 😎
Back in old timey days, "alt" was just British for "stop."
It's not "halt"? Or is that actually just an American thing?
O bloody L
Really love this video dude. I think you could be the voice for music media criticism.
Like this sort of video, keep it up my dude
ANTHONY IS THE NEW SARGON!!!! MAKE A THIS YEAR IN STUPID FOR MUSIC!!!!!!
From American Hardcore - I believe it was Henry Rollins who stated that much of his pride in the hardcore movement was that it was something ultimately white - not in the sense of excluding others, or arguing for white superiority, but he viewed it as a form of American music that finally didn't completely rip off of Black artists. It was something original that didn't simply steal from Black artists as early rock and roll and basically everything blues-based rock up to that point had done. It was made (mostly) by white, middle or working class, adolescents tired of being told how they should act.
If the writer of this article had anything resembling an eclectic knowledge of music/cultural history she would have MAYBE had a decent thesis by starting there and perhaps moving into something that shows how original work is better for racial solidarity in the long run - perhaps comparing alternative music to the blues-rock culture that came before it and comparing the racial tensions of both.
Fuck it, maybe I'll write about it.
Nvm, I have a job.
No white artist ripped off black music. You sound stupid. And no, hardcore punk wasn’t the only original form of white music. What black musicians sounded like Black Sabbath or deep purple or Pink Floyd or any rock band in the 70s, 80s or 90s? What one’s even sounded like the who or most of the Beatles. And let’s be honest most so called black American music is horrible with the exception of r n b and Motown. The blues sucked, jazz sucks and even most hip hop sucks especially live.
Do more of this, please.
My favorite local radio station is actually the alternative rock one because they actually occasionally play throwback hip-hop like OutKast, 2Pac, Biggie, Clipse. You never expect it but dear God it's so amazing when it happens
cmon Fanthony Anthano u give Blank Face 5 but for this 8?!
Luka Pitkänen it's old, and this isn't even a review. just stop
Ronald & Hip Hop no shit xd
Luka Pitkänen i didn't take what you said seriously. the joke is old. Time to let it go
@@donttouchtheac8651 saying that while having a MBDTF pfp. Stfu.
Dupe that comment is literally two years old 💀
(Real) Punk Rock is all-inclusive; a true safe space. Very strong Stinkpiece, Mr. AF.
It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t inclusive. Everything doesn’t have to be inclusive
I liked this vid - wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on other musical articles (be it in a positive or negatie way) in the future
Love the Kamasi Washington album in the background
I had to give a thumbs up for the mention of Living Color.
i'm black and i listen to alternative hip hop lol
Speedyy I'm white and I listen to HIP HOP because I'm not a Nazi lover you brain washed African boy
????
lmao
Luminous Soul what the fuck was that all about
Matthew Mickiewicz Social Justice
Watching this and many others by you, and as the years gone by I really enjoy and like what you have to say. Your rethoric is often really sound and good ;D Sorry for calling you Millhouse earlier. I hope to make music wich you will rate one day, many thanks from backwoods norway ;D
I think you should probably link this article in the description. Just for future reference for curious people who want to contribute to the discussion.
Alternative genres are safe spaces for train spotters
"According to wikipedia"
Great article
Does anybody know what band that shirt has on it? I've always wondered but I can only read the "The" at the top
I really enjoyed the video. Thanks a lot for your input. Even more I liked the level of expertise you've demonstrated. Knowing your subject before writing a manifesto is a rare commodity nowadays. I mean that the article sounded more like propaganda than actual journalism.
Cheers!
I LOVE alternative rock-- my favorite band is Muse-- and I'm a member of Black Lives Matter. Alt-rock does not equal alt-right. The SJWs are just infuriating.
00:50
Molly Osberg, wrote the article.
In case you missed that.
Let's give credit, where credit is due.
@@TheFrancesc18 I don't hate Jewish people, but it does seem to be almost every single time, doesn't it? Lol
@@p0llenp0ny Yeah, it's such a strange coincidence.
@@TheFrancesc18 Not a coincidence my friend. Not in the slightest.
EVERY SINGLE TIME. Look at the beak on her! Yikes!
Fuck you guys
As a fairly left leaning guy almost all of my music is Alt genres Alt rock and Alt metal. I never knew I was racist, seriously get this shit outta here. The dumbest shit I heard, and I've read Polygon articles.
Make a video about your vinyl set up!!
Hip-Hop Genres Are Black "Safe Spaces"?
NOTIFICATION SQUAD WE OUT HERE
More of these kind of videos!
Please do more of these dankthony melontano
The article writer wants no alternatives.... hmmm, sounds quite fasci/commi to me.
The funny thing to me is, there's something to be said for how a lot of white middle class members of alternative music subcultures espouse liberal values while exhibiting unexamined low-key racist and classist tendencies, but this article just... doesn't do that. Because the alt-right (i.e. Nazi wannabes) apparently garners more clicks than vaguely asinine behaviour, I guess?
yeah. shut up. we don't talk honestly and intricately about racism. Stick to the polarized talking points and pick a side, sloppily reconstructing the memorable parts of the last 10 race debate threads you scrolled thru.
stop thinking rationally and promoting rational thinking! We'll never get to the race war like that
6:17 *Head pans to blacklight poster of Hendrix on wall...
Love the immortal technique pop up pic, terribly underrated rapper!👌👌
Underrated? Lmao k