Dubas was too short sighted and stupid. Instead of giving into Marner's contract demands, he should of signed Hyman and have Marner deal with what was left under the salary cap
So was Mathews, Reilly, Tavares and most of the rest of the team. It was one of the crappiest, bumbling, fumbling playoff series I’ve ever seen! Toronto are just lucky Boston sucked most of the time also. But they sucked one goal less than Toronto.
This is what happens when you make Keefe apologize to Marner for being a meanie. Playoffs need a-hole coaches. Toronto made the Core 4 untouchable by the coaching staff and it shows. Not Willie though. Dude was a playoff beast
Kelly was right on with his comments. For the most part, Marner was a non-factor in this series. Not sure why, it didn’t appear to be illness/injury related? He just wasn’t playing with the intensity that he is capable of. Wasn’t close to earning his paycheque.
@@andrewm99944 31 other teams in the NHL would pick him up - its more about who can afford the cap hit and the fact the leafs brass will want a boat load for him.
I saw this in him from day one. He is hot and cold and when it comes to stepping up his game, 🤣🤣🤣. Get rid of him and good luck finding any team willing to pick up his salary. This is the problem in Toronto, over paid duds. Is it Treliving or Shanahan that has to go? Or both? Maybe Toronto can lure Cooper away?
In fairness, I recently chucked an oven mitt on the floor when I hit my head on a cupboard door. Is cooking food for my kids as stressful as playing hockey in Toronto? Probably.
Cooking isn't that hard if you know what you're doing. Having chaotic, loud kids out of control while trying to put a meal together can be fixed with duct tape, wink.
Anyone else remember when Toronto Captains could inspire the team? Reeve's one time biggest critic, the first to admit I was wrong! Only player on the team who prioritized winning the chase over avoiding a hit. Rest of them looking over shoulders more frequently than a JR showering with coach!
The funny thing is. No one would be saying a thing if he made only 6-7 million a year. But because he makes almost 11 and wants an even bigger paycheck in a year he becomes the scapegoat. If you know hockey at all you will know that he’s not the only problem on this team. It starts with the upper management then the coach and then the players that want to half ass it.
NO ONE said he was entirely to blame for the loss, the point of this is how Marner handled himself like a pampered child. Matthews and Tavares were non-factors but were at least adults about it.
Zero cups calling out ZERO cups lol makes a lot of sense!! Matthews and Willy is almost half of the cap, yet NO one sees the problem huh Brad merchant had more points then both of them together and makes just over half of what one of them gets paid and yet again NO ONE still sees the problem huh lol
Yes you die hard leaf fans keep trying the same thing and expect different results! You do realize what that's called huh! My info incorrect not likely! This is why the leafs continue to fail and you people think oh it's the referee or injurys or other complaints THEN LOOKING AT THE TRUE PROBLEMS!!! Leafs have NO HEART & there best players only there for a chq!! 9 years of the same team, change a goalie to increase the cry baby's pay checks!! That's insane!!!
Go back to math class man....and sit near the front this yr. So misinformed. The rat will never score 70 goals, 60 goals, 50 goals. Don't forget one or two suspensions in a yr, plus a couple fines.
I would rather have an 8 year 9 million dollar deal than a 3 year 12 million deal for Marner. I’m tired of this team being handcuffed by the big salaries. They either break up with Marner and Tavares or they take team friendly deals. It’s really as simple as that.
Do you follow hockey?? He has 1 yr left on an 11mil contract with a solid no trade clause. He is going NOWHERE. Until next year when he walks for nothing.
@simonmarshall Utah, Calgary, Chicago, SEA, NYI, WAS .... There are a few options for him that do not make sense today but could make sense at some point if someone thinks he's worth an investment which I think will happen
See this is what I don’t understand about the leaf fans which I am a devout and very hard-core one every year in the playoffs over the last 10 years we have one person that stands out and does something that either embarrasses himself or hurts the team and right away we lose the series, and we looked to replace them so one year or two years in a row Nazem Kadri was a bit of a headache took some stupid penalties. We let go of him and now we see him thriving on winning a cup not so much doing anything in Calgary, but still viable player that we could’ve used. Couple years ago we don’t.Resign Zachary Hyman… maybe that’s a financial situation. I’m not sure I know he wanted to stay in Toronto, but we let him go and he’s thriving in Edmonton and may be holding a Stanley Cup in about two months… we’re talking about how do we get rid of Mitch. Who is the catalyst for the office? Maybe he doesn’t play the best defence maybe he does take some plays off and maybe he’s not worth the 12 million he’s asking for but deep down inside. I think we need them and it looks like we’re saying goodbye to another key player, based on some emotion he showed…
Marner is 5th in Leafs assist of all time, he made Tavares a 40 goal scorer.. He’s not paid to go into corners or score goals, tied for second most points this post season. Unlike matthews and nylander he was there the whole series. I fail to see what he has done wrong..
@@korbendallas7181he does get treated as a GOD.... Most of you wear the team jerseys, colors or have social media's completely centered around them and the team or your favorite team. Yes, celebrities and athletes are treated like gods or so than anything else (it could just be that sports fans tend to be atheists or just lacking in every other area of life in sports fills a a void but the celebrity and athlete worship is definitely a thing whether you pretend otherwise or not
Marner is the smallest 6 foot player ever in NHL history. It's actually astounding how he is able to appear so much smaller than he is. Time for him to kick rocks down the road
They can't do anything about the no move clauses but if I were GM I would let Marner walk after the contract and try to sign Tavares for a much lower price which is typical for a 35 + year old. He is still a beast in the faceoff dot even though his production isn't as good anymore. I would say 3 million is a good price for JT. As for Marner he would never accept less money because in his own mind he thinks he is a hockey god but lacks the effort to back it up. Talent means nothing if you don't have the work ethics.
Well,,,, at least we all know he is WILLING to throw down his gloves. He just needs to do it ON the ice. Not when he is on the bench and it’s too late.
In game 7 he had literally ( with his skating ability ) a perfect wraparound goal . Honestly Swayman may have got it but 95% chance at least it goes in . What's he do ? Wraparound and passes it off because he was scared shitless of getting hit . Had he finished the play good chance it goes in . Willy and Matthews combined for their goal in game 7 . But who let's their man loose in OT ( his assignment was Pastrnak ) the last guy you want on a breakaway possibility . Even though it wasn't technically a breakaway bounce pass off the boards that rebounded to Pastas stick . Either way THAT CAN'T HAPPEN . 3 strikes you're out and he made 3 strikes in this series . Bye bye so called defensive 10.9 million dollar forward . When you check the stats Matthews is actually far better defensively led the NHL entirely with 92 takeaways in 2021-22 ( the 60 goal year ) next year leads the league amongst forwards in blocks ( hence why he had the wrist surgery blocking pucks doesn't feel nice but at least the efforts there ) . He made the decision easy for Treveling in this series . Well not so easy actually because his trade value likely went down . Don't think for a second that 31 other GM's aren't watching this . Treveling's best bet is to ( because reg.seasons way less physical ) is to let him rack up some points to build up his value at the deadline .
The great thing was when Matthews and McDavid first got in the league most people were talking about how many Finals they’d be in against each other. Then the Leafs get Tavares and the talk really amped up, especially for the Leafs. So far the Leafs have won 1 playoff series with this group. Pathetic franchise
Marner is hardly the only NHLer who tries to sell penalties. In fact I've watched Rhudey (who btw has never won a cup) flopping around the goal crease trying to sell a penalty on more than one occasion. And, while his backchecking on Pasta's goal was non-existent, when did it become Marner's, and only Marner's, job to provide defense? Where are all the cries about Toronto's defensemen who let Pasta enter their end zone unchallenged? Toronto's fans and media have always been toxic. Toronto's offense was matching the Bruins step for step in the last 3 games but it was Toronto's defense that lost them the game.
I hate the Leafs, but its funny that people rag on Marner - they forget, he still leads the trio of him, Nylander and Mathews for playoff points, SHP and Plus/Minus (all up for the past number of years)......not Marner's fault, its the fact the leafs are top heavy with players who don't hate losing.
my man if you really thought you were going to hear Kelly Hrudey call someone a "fucking baby" on national TV I have some magic beans I'd like to sell you.
Everyone remember that Hrudy was in the big show. Sorry Kelly I didn't like you as a player because I'm a Habs fan, but the important take is that this guy isn't just a talking head. If someone that was to a final starts talking about a kid's behavior...it's time to start listening.
Throwing his gloves was childish. Take the 'A' off his jersey & give it to someone who acts like a professional athlete. Not a spoiled rich kid in Pee Wee
You mean they can actually skate? Don’t have another preoccupation? Technology also getting better…the sticks, the skate blades…if that’s what you mean by different.
Marner is super soft. He’s not built for playoff hockey. Same with Mathews, Tavares, Nylander. It’s time for a full overhaul. Make the trades, get it done.
Nylander scored 3 goals in 3 games in playoffs. Yeah get rid of him. Lol. Matthews was amazing games 1 and 2 until he was hurt. Tavares and mitchy are non factors.
God like? Mitch, not really, but if you want to go with that, there was someone who was God-like ! But was crucified for doing some very miraculous things. You not so much
I wonder.....What team will be stupid enough to give this kid 10+ million to play hockey for their club. I wouldnt rule out the Leafs being 2 time imbeciles on that front by the way.
Marner is a fantastic regular season player but he needs to go. He gives Toronto zero chance in the playoffs, similar to Nik Ehlers in Winnipeg. Love him during the season, frustrates me with his great disappearing act in the playoffs
Marner is a guy with skill, not heart. Too scared to play amongst the men in playoffs. He gets out played by $875k players every playoff. Men who want it, always destroy Marner this time of year. His teammates are getting sick of it too.
I've been saying for years now that Marner is an excellent regular season player, but he just doesn't have what it takes in the playoffs, particularly in the pressure-cooker that is Toronto. Watch him get traded to another team where he's out of the constant sports spotlight and he'll likely thrive. Not all players are meant to play in the hotbed markets.
Cmon Rhudy Like you were any better when the Oilers used to light you up as A King🤣you used to break your stick into the post😂Pull your mask off and shout at the refs and your teammates while wearing that ridiculous headband🤣🤣🫵🏾
Holy Shit! Kelly Hrudey!!!!!! I was never a Kings fan but shit, as a kid and Detroit fan we loved watching his play and during street hockey the goalie usually called ourselves Hrudey.
Eh I don't think you guys know what hockey talent is in sick of seeing a certain crowd commenting the games jus as much as watching the leafs Mathews suck in the playoffs
@@mattysims4323 I am sure he cries himself to sleep with his Olympic Gold Medal, Vezina and Hart Trophy! The only other goalie to do this is Hasek, must also be a bum!
I find it comical that every year around this time there is falk the so called "core four" issue needs to be addressed. Marner is usually the one that takes the heat. I suspect there are many teams in the League would should love to have 3 of the 4 (my core 4 includes Reilly, not JT). It's much too simple to blame 3 guys when there are many more on a TEAM. Where is the secondary scoring, what happens when 1, 2 or 3 of them are hurting? The management Team made THEM the TEAM and granted their every wish including 3 banks. They turned the team into a Country Club fun by 3 players and forgot what the Primary Object was. It would be asinine to move 1, 2 or 3 of these guys...instead, a just the attitude. It's the Toronto Maple Leafs, not the the Toronto "core 4". IF ShanaPLAN Shanahan was worth his salt, he would have recognized what was going on and put a stop to it. He would also have built a great supporting team members who could skate and play any style. An old, slow pugilist and once great defencemen does not fit the bill. It's time for change in Management, remind everyone this is the NHL and run a boot camp with some tough love. Those who don't or won't go along are too far gone, so move them on.
Bullshit. Throwing his gloves is no different than smashing your stick on the boards, the glass and the iron on the net when you’re frustrated. Check out how many videos you can find guys smashing their sticks. Go Leafs Go☮️🇨🇦
Marner makes 2x what Hyman makes , let that sink in
Wow.
Dubas was too short sighted and stupid. Instead of giving into Marner's contract demands, he should of signed Hyman and have Marner deal with what was left under the salary cap
@bodechek its because he was so dumb and signed jt for 11 mill. Lthe kids were way better than jt and wanted similar. Was easy to see coming
And his contract is the reason Hyman is gone.
@@craigjasman9436 at the time, they needed more players like Hyman.
Good on you for calling out his weak ass play and terrible bench presence.
Marner is a joke
Right on Kelly
You knew at that point, it was over for this year..... Marner with a temper tantrum like a little boy...
Give him a break. That game was way past his bedtime.
Marner was invisible in the series.
So was Mathews, Reilly, Tavares and most of the rest of the team. It was one of the crappiest, bumbling, fumbling playoff series I’ve ever seen! Toronto are just lucky Boston sucked most of the time also. But they sucked one goal less than Toronto.
@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665 : The ones you listed did contribute during the series but Marner was invisible.
@@warrengauthier4699 but he threw his gloves really really hard 😂😂
@simont1709 : That glove thing was outrageous. It was like did he really just do that?
@@warrengauthier4699 looked like a child pouting after his brother said he was doing something wrong
This is what happens when you make Keefe apologize to Marner for being a meanie. Playoffs need a-hole coaches. Toronto made the Core 4 untouchable by the coaching staff and it shows.
Not Willie though. Dude was a playoff beast
yeah, this team is a comedy show🎭
Kelly was right on with his comments. For the most part, Marner was a non-factor in this series. Not sure why, it didn’t appear to be illness/injury related? He just wasn’t playing with the intensity that he is capable of. Wasn’t close to earning his paycheque.
Mariner is a cry baby and showboat.HE HAS TO GO
whose mariner
Who in the right mind would ever pick him up though? Stay the hell away from Edmonton Marner
@@andrewm99944 31 other teams in the NHL would pick him up - its more about who can afford the cap hit and the fact the leafs brass will want a boat load for him.
@@andrewm99944NYI, CAL, BUF, SEA and even DET maybe? Idk ... Someone will think he's worth investment but not what he got in Toronto
Marner gets paid the big bucks to take the hits and make the plays . This isn't little league.
No kidding, kid wants to get paid without accountability
Marner is a little boy playing against men. He is not capable of elevating his game. All he did during the playoffs was hog ice time.
I saw this in him from day one. He is hot and cold and when it comes to stepping up his game, 🤣🤣🤣. Get rid of him and good luck finding any team willing to pick up his salary. This is the problem in Toronto, over paid duds. Is it Treliving or Shanahan that has to go? Or both? Maybe Toronto can lure Cooper away?
@@nerraD14Scottie Bowman is available...
@@bodechekto be fair, Matthews and the coaches practically broke him mentally at that point
In fairness, I recently chucked an oven mitt on the floor when I hit my head on a cupboard door. Is cooking food for my kids as stressful as playing hockey in Toronto? Probably.
Cooking isn't that hard if you know what you're doing. Having chaotic, loud kids out of control while trying to put a meal together can be fixed with duct tape, wink.
Well, the Leafs _are_ cooked..
@@MarvinThiessenyou're dangerous
Yes, it is very similar....
MITCH-I MEAN B-H MARNER! ☝🏻
He’s right and I love Toronto
Thank Yeww Kelly
Anyone else remember when Toronto Captains could inspire the team?
Reeve's one time biggest critic, the first to admit I was wrong!
Only player on the team who prioritized winning the chase over avoiding a hit.
Rest of them looking over shoulders more frequently than a JR showering with coach!
The funny thing is. No one would be saying a thing if he made only 6-7 million a year. But because he makes almost 11 and wants an even bigger paycheck in a year he becomes the scapegoat. If you know hockey at all you will know that he’s not the only problem on this team. It starts with the upper management then the coach and then the players that want to half ass it.
NO ONE said he was entirely to blame for the loss, the point of this is how Marner handled himself like a pampered child. Matthews and Tavares were non-factors but were at least adults about it.
@dochaliday69 matthews was their best player games 1 and 2. And won game two. Then had a flu and injury. Still led team in points in 5 games
trade marner for a f ...ing goalie come on we are not all blind
Not just Marner. They were all late to the show!
So much of the playoffs is against the boards, physicality throughout the bench is a must especially when that player plays big minutes.
Nailed it Kelly!
Zero cups calling out ZERO cups lol makes a lot of sense!!
Matthews and Willy is almost half of the cap, yet NO one sees the problem huh
Brad merchant had more points then both of them together and makes just over half of what one of them gets paid and yet again NO ONE still sees the problem huh lol
I think your math is a little off there champ
We all see the problem. Much of it has to do with your information. Yet YOU seem to NOT see the problem.
Yes you die hard leaf fans keep trying the same thing and expect different results! You do realize what that's called huh!
My info incorrect not likely! This is why the leafs continue to fail and you people think oh it's the referee or injurys or other complaints THEN LOOKING AT THE TRUE PROBLEMS!!! Leafs have NO HEART & there best players only there for a chq!!
9 years of the same team, change a goalie to increase the cry baby's pay checks!! That's insane!!!
Go back to math class man....and sit near the front this yr. So misinformed.
The rat will never score 70 goals, 60 goals, 50 goals. Don't forget one or two suspensions in a yr, plus a couple fines.
The problem with this team nobody takes pay cuts like Tampa Bay Boston
Cant afford Marner and Tavares. Maybe they will wave their no trade clause but if they dont, I just hope they don't get signed to big deals.
I would rather have an 8 year 9 million dollar deal than a 3 year 12 million deal for Marner. I’m tired of this team being handcuffed by the big salaries. They either break up with Marner and Tavares or they take team friendly deals. It’s really as simple as that.
He needs to move . This off season .
Do you follow hockey?? He has 1 yr left on an 11mil contract with a solid no trade clause. He is going NOWHERE. Until next year when he walks for nothing.
@@davegrier523 well nobody wants him . The team will boo him next season . I wish Utah could take him and big salary cap
@simonmarshall Utah, Calgary, Chicago, SEA, NYI, WAS .... There are a few options for him that do not make sense today but could make sense at some point if someone thinks he's worth an investment which I think will happen
Manner is a child
If or when Marner gets traded, he'll find a lot of success!
Kelly went to the Stanley cup finals in 93, Marner will go to the Stanley cup finals one day too, after he has retired
16 has got to go ....
Thanks Paul!!!
Thanks for taking the kings of the Stanley cup
Kelly should be removed from HNIC blaming one person for 20 other teammates he is ten times better hockey player than Hrudy ever was
Manner 8 or 9 year old sums it up. Feel bad for the equipment guys on this team
Marner thinks hes god in toronto
See this is what I don’t understand about the leaf fans which I am a devout and very hard-core one every year in the playoffs over the last 10 years we have one person that stands out and does something that either embarrasses himself or hurts the team and right away we lose the series, and we looked to replace them so one year or two years in a row Nazem Kadri was a bit of a headache took some stupid penalties. We let go of him and now we see him thriving on winning a cup not so much doing anything in Calgary, but still viable player that we could’ve used. Couple years ago we don’t.Resign Zachary Hyman… maybe that’s a financial situation. I’m not sure I know he wanted to stay in Toronto, but we let him go and he’s thriving in Edmonton and may be holding a Stanley Cup in about two months… we’re talking about how do we get rid of Mitch. Who is the catalyst for the office? Maybe he doesn’t play the best defence maybe he does take some plays off and maybe he’s not worth the 12 million he’s asking for but deep down inside. I think we need them and it looks like we’re saying goodbye to another key player, based on some emotion he showed…
Too many egos on that team
Never liked Marner, good riddance.
Blah blah blah......words mean nothing.....57 fn years!!!!!!! That means everything
Throwing gloves means giving up! bad sign all around
0:44 use a timestamp, only takes a couple of extra seconds
Kelly is Tops, pops 😅🥅
Is this the Toronto ballet?
No the Brass Rail closed.....
@@66BW What a joint that was..lol
@@wombatwilly1002 I know right LOL
Marner is 5th in Leafs assist of all time, he made Tavares a 40 goal scorer..
He’s not paid to go into corners or score goals, tied for second most points this post season.
Unlike matthews and nylander he was there the whole series.
I fail to see what he has done wrong..
Team of individuals losers
just another game eh Mitchy? one of many hundreds....
he just said that nylander is like wendel clark and doug gilmour to leafs fans. kelly hrudey might be learning impaired
Marner believes he's a god, the way he is treated in Toronto ...his own words today...
@@korbendallas7181a little advice, Mitch, don't repeat that when you get to Utah
@@billboggs6641 agreed, Mitch Marner can go god mode with the Yetis lol
@@korbendallas7181mitch marner comes off like five years old
@@korbendallas7181he does get treated as a GOD.... Most of you wear the team jerseys, colors or have social media's completely centered around them and the team or your favorite team.
Yes, celebrities and athletes are treated like gods or so than anything else (it could just be that sports fans tend to be atheists or just lacking in every other area of life in sports fills a a void but the celebrity and athlete worship is definitely a thing whether you pretend otherwise or not
My my my I said this shit after the Montreal series everyone called me stupid ....hmmmm
Kelly was being really really polite compared to Jay Rosehill 😆😆😆😆😆
You guys put him on a pedestal since day one. What did you expect.
Marner is the smallest 6 foot player ever in NHL history. It's actually astounding how he is able to appear so much smaller than he is. Time for him to kick rocks down the road
I saw this guy play for the New Haven nighthawks.
Kelly is right
Marner: i am sorry kelly :( kelly hrudey: dont be sorry, be better boy!
Embarrassing. Wave your no move or get booed all year.
Well, Marner was one of the best Leafs in game five.
How would you rate his game 7 though
@@glennarcher2988👻👻
@@glennarcher2988injured? Broken?
The shanaplan has really worked out
Mitch Mourner
They can't do anything about the no move clauses but if I were GM I would let Marner walk after the contract and try to sign Tavares for a much lower price which is typical for a 35 + year old. He is still a beast in the faceoff dot even though his production isn't as good anymore. I would say 3 million is a good price for JT. As for Marner he would never accept less money because in his own mind he thinks he is a hockey god but lacks the effort to back it up. Talent means nothing if you don't have the work ethics.
Well,,,, at least we all know he is WILLING to throw down his gloves. He just needs to do it ON the ice. Not when he is on the bench and it’s too late.
Leave him alone he is their marquee player.he needs coaching on defense
I love Kelly hrudey
In game 7 he had literally ( with his skating ability ) a perfect wraparound goal . Honestly Swayman may have got it but 95% chance at least it goes in . What's he do ? Wraparound and passes it off because he was scared shitless of getting hit . Had he finished the play good chance it goes in . Willy and Matthews combined for their goal in game 7 . But who let's their man loose in OT ( his assignment was Pastrnak ) the last guy you want on a breakaway possibility . Even though it wasn't technically a breakaway bounce pass off the boards that rebounded to Pastas stick . Either way THAT CAN'T HAPPEN . 3 strikes you're out and he made 3 strikes in this series . Bye bye so called defensive 10.9 million dollar forward . When you check the stats Matthews is actually far better defensively led the NHL entirely with 92 takeaways in 2021-22 ( the 60 goal year ) next year leads the league amongst forwards in blocks ( hence why he had the wrist surgery blocking pucks doesn't feel nice but at least the efforts there ) . He made the decision easy for Treveling in this series . Well not so easy actually because his trade value likely went down . Don't think for a second that 31 other GM's aren't watching this . Treveling's best bet is to ( because reg.seasons way less physical ) is to let him rack up some points to build up his value at the deadline .
The maple laughs. Always a joke
Since 1967… Habs fan here enjoying the Toronto 💩 show all these years …
The great thing was when Matthews and McDavid first got in the league most people were talking about how many Finals they’d be in against each other. Then the Leafs get Tavares and the talk really amped up, especially for the Leafs. So far the Leafs have won 1 playoff series with this group. Pathetic franchise
Signing tavares is why. Such a mistake
Wish i didn't grow up watching the Leaf's, so i could enjoy the longest running Canadian Comedy show...
Lol. For fans its more like a sad frustrating drama of abuse.
Marner is hardly the only NHLer who tries to sell penalties. In fact I've watched Rhudey (who btw has never won a cup) flopping around the goal crease trying to sell a penalty on more than one occasion. And, while his backchecking on Pasta's goal was non-existent, when did it become Marner's, and only Marner's, job to provide defense? Where are all the cries about Toronto's defensemen who let Pasta enter their end zone unchallenged? Toronto's fans and media have always been toxic. Toronto's offense was matching the Bruins step for step in the last 3 games but it was Toronto's defense that lost them the game.
haha Baby Marner having a breakdown. ....mommy. Please get rid of him. Man is a cry baby
trade to Pittsburgh?
Is it just me or does he look like a heavier pollieve
Say what you will about Marner, at least there was an indication that this mattered to him.
Hi mitch
@@planetcaravan2925 whaddup? Seen my millions anywhere?
I don,t listen to never have beens
Nylander showed up. Marner and Matthews didn't show up.
I hate the Leafs, but its funny that people rag on Marner - they forget, he still leads the trio of him, Nylander and Mathews for playoff points, SHP and Plus/Minus (all up for the past number of years)......not Marner's fault, its the fact the leafs are top heavy with players who don't hate losing.
Nice non-existent quote there in the thumbnail
Thanks
my man if you really thought you were going to hear Kelly Hrudey call someone a "fucking baby" on national TV I have some magic beans I'd like to sell you.
Everyone remember that Hrudy was in the big show. Sorry Kelly I didn't like you as a player because I'm a Habs fan, but the important take is that this guy isn't just a talking head. If someone that was to a final starts talking about a kid's behavior...it's time to start listening.
Islanders started losing when hrudey took over
Throwing his gloves was childish. Take the 'A' off his jersey & give it to someone who acts like a professional athlete. Not a spoiled rich kid in Pee Wee
Players today look nothing like the players from the 90's and early 2000's
You mean they can actually skate? Don’t have another preoccupation? Technology also getting better…the sticks, the skate blades…if that’s what you mean by different.
Marner is super soft. He’s not built for playoff hockey. Same with Mathews, Tavares, Nylander. It’s time for a full overhaul. Make the trades, get it done.
they ALL have full no trade clauses....they are going nowhere
I saw Nylsnder throw a big hit and score 2 goals
Goals are good but one big hit isn’t enough.
I used to be a big Nylander critic but he has won me over. Tavares and Marner...just seem like a waste of cap space.
Nylander scored 3 goals in 3 games in playoffs. Yeah get rid of him. Lol. Matthews was amazing games 1 and 2 until he was hurt. Tavares and mitchy are non factors.
❤so sad
God like? Mitch, not really, but if you want to go with that, there was someone who was God-like ! But was crucified for doing some very miraculous things.
You not so much
Love leafs misery
Hockey in Canada, serious business.
I wonder.....What team will be stupid enough to give this kid 10+ million to play hockey for their club. I wouldnt rule out the Leafs being 2 time imbeciles on that front by the way.
Marner is a fantastic regular season player but he needs to go. He gives Toronto zero chance in the playoffs, similar to Nik Ehlers in Winnipeg. Love him during the season, frustrates me with his great disappearing act in the playoffs
Marner is a guy with skill, not heart. Too scared to play amongst the men in playoffs.
He gets out played by $875k players every playoff. Men who want it, always destroy Marner this time of year. His teammates are getting sick of it too.
This panel sucks. Retire Ron MacLean.
Biggest whiner in the league! Crybaby!
I've been saying for years now that Marner is an excellent regular season player, but he just doesn't have what it takes in the playoffs, particularly in the pressure-cooker that is Toronto.
Watch him get traded to another team where he's out of the constant sports spotlight and he'll likely thrive. Not all players are meant to play in the hotbed markets.
Cmon Rhudy
Like you were any better when the Oilers used to light you up as A King🤣you used to break your stick into the post😂Pull your mask off and shout at the refs and your teammates while wearing that ridiculous headband🤣🤣🫵🏾
Holy Shit! Kelly Hrudey!!!!!! I was never a Kings fan but shit, as a kid and Detroit fan we loved watching his play and during street hockey the goalie usually called ourselves Hrudey.
😂 Nothing spells Leafs like Marner 😅
He just doesn’t seem to be a playoff hockey player. Sorry folks I would still keep him over Tavares. Time to retire John
Eh I don't think you guys know what hockey talent is in sick of seeing a certain crowd commenting the games jus as much as watching the leafs Mathews suck in the playoffs
Absolutely right. The leafs need to fold as organization and move to Quebec to be successful just like the Avs
@@mattysims4323 I am sure he cries himself to sleep with his Olympic Gold Medal, Vezina and Hart Trophy! The only other goalie to do this is Hasek, must also be a bum!
Quebec, where sport franchises go to die.
yeah fold the richest franchise in the Nhl 😂🤦♀️
Move then expand back
@@jkapozelewksiAnd Swayman soon
1967: The LAST time the Laughs Won the Cup and the LAST time the Laughs were in a Cup Final.
Big baby lol jk 😂
The good thing is Marner proves that women CAN play in the NHL!
Marner sucks
Quebec is no more. Go Leafs Go!
What happened to the thoughts that he was playing injured? His skating at times looked laboured, not chickening out.
I find it comical that every year around this time there is falk the so called "core four" issue needs to be addressed. Marner is usually the one that takes the heat. I suspect there are many teams in the League would should love to have 3 of the 4 (my core 4 includes Reilly, not JT). It's much too simple to blame 3 guys when there are many more on a TEAM. Where is the secondary scoring, what happens when 1, 2 or 3 of them are hurting? The management Team made THEM the TEAM and granted their every wish including 3 banks. They turned the team into a Country Club fun by 3 players and forgot what the Primary Object was. It would be asinine to move 1, 2 or 3 of these guys...instead, a just the attitude. It's the Toronto Maple Leafs, not the the Toronto "core 4". IF ShanaPLAN Shanahan was worth his salt, he would have recognized what was going on and put a stop to it. He would also have built a great supporting team members who could skate and play any style. An old, slow pugilist and once great defencemen does not fit the bill. It's time for change in Management, remind everyone this is the NHL and run a boot camp with some tough love. Those who don't or won't go along are too far gone, so move them on.
Bullshit. Throwing his gloves is no different than smashing your stick on the boards, the glass and the iron on the net when you’re frustrated. Check out how many videos you can find guys smashing their sticks.
Go Leafs Go☮️🇨🇦
Ik. But the media doesn’t like Marner
@@jeremy9717 that's one of the biggest hinderances the Leafs have, Toronto media and their fans.