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0:00 AMD low GPU sales mean low prices?
0:57 AMD gaming revenue is down
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2:53 RDNA4 to have vastly different RT than RDNA 3 (leak/rumor)
4:44 AMD cancelled high end RDNA4 GPU specs leak (leak/rumor)
6:04 RTX 4090 melted power connector at PSU and GPU ends
7:16 How wide-spread are the Intel CPU stability issues?
9:55 Nvidia updates ChatRTX
10:31 Nvidia criticizes Microsoft's 45 TOPs requirement for AI PCs
11:21 Nvidia RTX Remix gets DLSS 3.5 Ray Reconstruction support
12:05 ASUS dodges ROG Ally SD card reader questions
14:29 RX 7900 XTX with 2 fans launched
14:56 XFX teases "Phoenix Nirvana" 7900 XTX
15:20 Hellblade 2 PC minimum system requirements
17:44 Starfield update helps CPU performance on PC
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@@mistermudpie Math
I upgraded from 3070 to 7900XT. From now on I'm going to lean towards AMD because the price to performance ratio is so good.
if you dont want raytracing or framegen its a good option to save money
i have seen this many times over the last 30 years as the new buyers slow allot when you start hearing about new next gen card releasing as people thinking of building new rigs start holding off instead of pulling the trigger .
yeah im the same, why get a 4080/4090 when the 5080/5090 is going to be out in like 5 months lol Just seems like a bad deal to get old gen now.
Even if you don't buy new gen, old one would most likely go on sale, so you pay less for same thing. A win-win for consumer, not so much for manufacturer, since they left with dead stock while new gen production is ramping up.
@@vadnegru 100%
@@vadnegru not unless there is another crypto situation and everything even the old gpus go up in price lol
@@Kuroganemk2 sure it could be happening again, but i doubt any PoW coin be as nearly popular as Ethereum to make impact. What could be happening are cards with less/no AI accelerators (like LHR editions). Gamers won't care about that anyway.
I do not see how sales can turn around when cards cost so much, perform so low (sub 120fps) and last so little time. That's a bad combo in a recession. Good vid as always.
With many people following the CU counts of the last gens cards and thinking that the model numbers didn't quite match, ya they were trying to make that crypto money continue and people weren't falling for it.
What a shock.
Idk man, I’ve been using my 3080 since November 2020. I paid 750$ for it and there hasn’t been a game yet that required me to drop down from 4k to run with acceptable visuals. In some games I need to use DLSS quality if I want to use high settings, but my LG CX and 3080 were amazing investments for gaming for the past 3-1/2 years.
@@MechAdv Everyone's definition of acceptable visuals is different tho and many people want a lot more than 60 FPS too.
I don't need everything on ultra but there are games where I've dropped the graphics a bit more than I'd like and then there is Ark, which is a total mess and is very unacceptable (but that's the Devs) .
@@makavelismith I’m not counting horrendously optimized games. Ark ascended is absolutely egregious with how bad the optimization is. I can play remnant 2(Unreal5) on ultra settings with the DLSS quality, or medium high settings without upscaling at 4k, and never drop below 60 FPS. Lies of P runs maxed out settings natively at 4k 90-120fps. Diablo 4 runs 90fps with the ultra preset enabled. What’s there to complain about?
You know that 120 FPS is insanely fast.. if you go back just 5 years..
The problem is that gamers think they need 120 for non competitive gaming..
We’re digging our own graves here 40+ fps was ok not long ago
Newegg AMD GPU sales link: howl.me/cmaAIbyYIxA
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Personally its not just slow sales but AMD has cut too many corners and downgraded the tech in some areas - this needs to be fixed. AMD took advice from Samsung w 50k phones that couldn't sell bad idea.
We're at the tail end of an underwhelming GPU cycle, plus the 4th year of the consoles.
Combine that with the price of essentials (food, fuel, rent etc) still high in proportion to wage growth, then it makes sense people aren't spending money on AMD's GPU products vs 2023.
I'd also argue the market is lacking a 'GPU Killer App', which massively drives hardware sales - much like Cyberpunk 2077 did.
Right now you can play most games at excellent quality with relatively modest hardware - which is actually great for consumer. The market is boring, but there's good deals to be had, particularly if you care about actually playing games rather than just getting hyped about new graphics cards.
Meanwhile nintendo be like : you'll be amazed at the 4.5 teraflops of switch 2 that will last you till 2032! Because nintendo is gonna be proud to release a console weaker than the PS4... years later.
@@lolmao500 Eh, teraflops and direct console comparisons aren't all that relevant for the Switch 2, given its handheld form factor and bespoke Nvidia hardware. I just hope it's a more balanced system than Switch 1, which was severely starved of memory.
next gen is going to be overpriced also
@lolmao500 it's a handheld. It needs to run at 5-12W. What are you expecting here?
@@lifemocker85 as opposed to? Anything between 300-500$ in the current gen is overpriced.
Hey, ex test engineer here. They would need to test something like 5-10% of a full production lot to have an idea of how many CPU show the issue.
If they want my buy, they can reduce the price of 7900XTX to around $700USD first
This^^ Not just AMD but everyone. Imagine paying 550$ (about 700$ in my country) for a 4070 that realistically performs like what a 4060 Ti should be.
At this point it's probably better to wait for RDNA4. Performance should be close, but much cheaper and more efficient.
@@THU31 I agree
@@THU31staying on a 128-bit bus and still using GDDR6 = no for me. I get that’s how they keep the cards “affordable”.
@@zeroturn7091 I think the biggest RDNA4 chip is supposed to have a 256-bit bus and 7900 XT performance. I think at ~$500 and ~250 W that would be pretty good.
6:57 Percentage doesn't matter! This should be 0%. Never in history we had melting power connectors. If this was some other consumer device it would be recalled. Imagine a hair dryer with a melting plug....
My 3080 died in 2022 with a melted 8 pin connector, and gigabyte warrantied me to a 12gb model because all the 10Gb models were getting shipped to miners.
Gamers aren't your average consumers. They're the consoomers who drool from their mouths and cannot form two coherent sentences.
A 7900xtx with 2 fans isn’t too surprising, considering the 3090ti and 4090 have way higher tdp and the FE models always had 2 fans
My 4090 melted 2 weeks ago after 18 months. MY conclusion about this even though we don't know the actual percentage of people effected is that this connecter will forever be a weak breaking point for any owner. It's only a matter of time. Be it user error or just failure rate. The connector is an issue.
I think it's too much current going through fewer wires with thin pins that eventually end up making a poor connection over time as the connector warms up and cools down over the lifespan of the card. Higher resistance = heat until its too much and the connector gives. Mine melted on the GPU and PSU side btw.
Especially stamped contacts. They should be solid machined contacts for better tolerance control and conductivity at that size and current.
another problem is 12v2x6 individual micro fit connector is even smaller compare to individual pin (the actual metal) of normal 8 or 6 pin connector. i think in the future they just need to make new voltage standard. such as 24v maybe 🤣 to reduce the current while maintaining same power
Another reason I went for the AMD 7900 GRE over the 4070 or even 4070 super. The standard dual 8-pin connectors are fine.
@@Revan_7even Absolutely, stamped makes them weaker.
@@JonnyFlash80 There isn't much to worry with the 4070 or even the 4080 but then again who knows what happens over time.
It’s called market saturation there’s only so many people to buy gpus
Man I hate living on a financially broken country 😢 everything here takes double the time to update prices and its double the USD price 💀
My condolences to you 😢 PC gaming had to be unequal for everyone unfortunately.
As a Brazilian, I feel your pain 😔.
just move
I would think the majority of GPU buyers would have already chosen their side and GPU this generation, there's nothing compelling lower to mid-tier users to upgrade atm
Instability doesn’t necessarily mean that the os crashes. It can also mean calculations errors or failing tests like prime95.
I just picked up the 7900 GRE and that card kicks ass, especially after doing a memory overclock to bring that gimped memory bandwidth back up a bit.
isn't it wild how low typical amd values are until you overclock them, fun stuff
Well, my 6800XT that I bought Nov 2022 for $515 is $585 now at Microcenter. Crazy they don't sell, right?
The price increase indicates demand so they must be selling them
The report I saw mentioned revenue, not # of units. AMD might be taking a beating on the price they sell to board makers while nvidia is upcharging whatever they please, resulting in 20% lower prices for us but 50% lower revenue per unit for AMD.
50% lower revenue is totally not sustainable Keep in mind Blackwell is around the corner
AMD pretty much said it in their earnings that the low revenue caused by low sales.
Revenue is a proxy for the number of units because if the retail price drops 20%, then AMD is cutting their prices by 6-10%, not enough to account for the 48% decrease in revenue
It's still bad either way tho
PC Gamer did an article last month. 7000 series has been one of the worst selling generations. Only one 7000 series card has made it to the top 100 used GPUs on the steam hardware survey, and it's closer to the bottom of that list.
The 4090 melting from GPU and PSU end recently came from a small CZcamsr Terra Wave. Micro Center replaced it.
GPU makers expecting everyone to buy a new GPU every 2 years lol "why are the sales down?"
This is exactly it. The crypto craze made them expensive and hard to get, they overproduced them and the crypto crash dumped the used ones on the market, then the next generation was still overpriced and underwhelming while the economy is in the toilet. Now another generation of cards is coming soon™ to a market that already has a glut of them to drive down prices even further for budget minded consumers and offer higher performance for the shiny new thing enthusiasts. Pretty much everyone has a good reason not to buy a new card right now.
In three or four months I'm finally building my dream PC with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and RX 7900 XTX
And when I say "dream" PC I mean one that doesn't stutter or has low FPS
I've helped two friends build the same as you. I'm on 5800X3D and 7900XTX. It's amazing.
Great card and combo. The 7900xtx will keep going down in price hopefully 900$ flat or lower when you buy it mate 👍🏽
@@LprogressivesANDliberals That's around the price goal i set for it
In my country it's still about 1,1k but with new releases hopefully it gets better for us
I split the baby and went with a 14900K/7900XTX. Got the Power Color Red Devil and put it in a water block. Fantastic card no matter what the haters say.
YOu will get high fps but stutter is a guarantee in PC titles of this day and age.
7:17 That's what happens when you try to sell an overclocked previous gen cpu as a new gen cpu xd. On top of that, to use intel cpus you need a more expensive motherboard to handle the "overclock," a better cooler to handle the temperatures that come with said "overclock," and in some situations, even a better psu. While with amd, you can be fine to a certain extent with a $75 a620m motherboard, stock cooler and cheap psu.
WRT to those melted connectors, I wonder if the cable used was from the power supply or if that was a different brand.
I just got the 57" neo g9, and i think i have finalized a build choice with the 7900xt I think, but since im doing this so close to new products being released, should I wait.
The main thing about the nirvana is it uses ptm7950 which is a phase change cooling pad that prevents the terrible hot spot and thermal paste pumping out issues that are notorious with rdna 3. If you go read the forums a lot of people were re"pasting" theirs manually with the same material and apparently many consoles and handhelds use it already. Kinda weird that you didnt cover that when the article you showed literally explained that's what is special about the nirvana. I feel like it's kind of a big deal considering it's meant to resolve one of the main issues with rdna3.
Sapphire already uses ptm and powercolor (in some models) do as well.
Personally I repasted my xtx with PTM a year ago now
the full system recommendations for Hellblade 2 got released, I'd love to hear your thoughts on them
it's ludicrous to see those RDN2 prices. here in europe the stock is pretty much dried out and the prices for last-gen cards are absurd.
I got an RX6800 for £318 here in the UK, XFX Swft 319 brand new.
All I wanted was a reasonable price to performance on a non miner thrashed card and they delivered.
I grabbed a 6800 in like 2022 for $480.
I wouldn't mind upgrading. I don't really "need" an upgrade for my main PC, but we have 2 other PCs in the house running older GPUs.
If I upgrade my Main PC, then i shuffle my GPUs downstream.
Nothing yet seems to be worth while as far as price/performance goes. 7900 GRE is somewhat tempting, but I cant justify spending over $500 for what might amount to be around a 20% jump at 1440 UW. So, I wait for RDNA4, or, I wait for used market to have something enticing enough to pull me in. I can wait for years.
From what is being said about rdna4.. RT = XTX+ but Raster = XT. Not going to be anything revolutionary or worthy of upgrading from 6800 imo. Just buy a 4090 peasant 😭 (jk)
I just bought a 6800 off amazon for $370 yesterday haha im not mad 🙃
also if youre reading this go buy that shit it was worth it for $370
That card is the new rx 580 8GB
Yea I just bought a 6750xt for like $350 and that shit is $289 now 🙃🔫
its not badly priced in europe, €400. But its almost a 4 year old card
I got a used one on eBay for $340 just a few weeks ago. Wish I’d waited for a new one
I really appreciate the math that you include in some of your videos. I'm currently building a new system that will utilize my Hisense 75U8K. I will not spend the money for the 4090. At the same time, do you have a video that explains all the different feature sets (RT, DLSS, etc.)? I'm building this system since my daughter talked me into BG3. Thanks for your time and help.
Love that an RX 6750 XT is that cheap in the US and here it is more expensive than RX 7800 all of a sudden.
I feel your pain mate
I did have the SD card reader fail in my Ally and it was fixed and works perfectly.
New system requirements are totally compensating for cards with current driver updates and to a degree vram, all 3 recommended for Hellblade are 8gb cards.
With recent 4090, It's been totally fine with the included 8 pin to 12VHPWR in open Corsair 7000D Airflow case, clean snap on the GPU connector, no issues but I set it and just look at it periodically. Sample size of 1 here too. But it's interesting these ATX3 PSU are having a problem too. I went tier A just upgraded from 1200W to 1600W when I put in the 4090 (probably way overkill) but I use the PSUs in multiple builds over time and like to have efficiency headroom and protection from power draw spikes if they happen. I also look at any attached drives as an investment, so those not dying is important.
Got a question about Nvidia's frame generation. Do each model perform the same. You did a slow-mo video comparing real frames against generated frames and pointed out the artifacts in the generated frames. My question is the quality the same between the 4090 and the cheaper 40 models. On a related topic. How good is AMD's generated frames? I don't think I've seen that video.
super happy about the 7900xtx i always use MATX builds so i can only use short three fans or two fan models
Well, probably the revenue "nosedive" is directed at the 7000 series, because some of the most sold gpus on many sites are the 6000 series, but they have been long acounted for as revenue. The problem is that there was not that mutch generational uplift to justify coming from a 6000 to a 7000. The only reason to upgrade basically would be if you were like me, that had a 1050 2GB, and upgraded to a 7800xt. Majority of gamers have a 3060 (most popular gpu, via steamhardware) and that can still do some work, so the incentive to buy, at all around high gpu prices is not really there.
Is msi b650 gaming plus wifi good?
Just Bought a rx 7800 xt nitro + oc very good card with awesome cooling never goes over 65c
Any news about AI upscaling (FSR)?
This is the moment where Daniel Owen post GPU News!!!
Thx for bringing that up. I would have never noticed what this video was gonna be about
@@takemysaucefr thanks man
I have a 4090. After long gaming sessions, I have touched the cable connector at GPUs end, but have not noticed it to be hot. I support the cable with a zip-tie so it does not strain connector. I do not get why Nvidia went with this connector. Likely to cause issues in the long term, just like Apple and Samsung do.
checking newegg just now. 4 of the top 10 best selling GPUs are Radeons. and that is not unusual.
AMD specifically mentioned "revenue", it may be that the cards ARE selling but at such low margin that AMD isn't making much money
For AMD to make money they need to sell those RX7000. RX6000 that being sold on the market right now already being counted long ago in AMD revenue. The stock just have hard time to deplete because AMD end up over producing them during mining craze back in 2020-2021 period.
Revenue has nothing to do with margins and they are still making a lot of money, as indicated by their gross margin going up three points Y/Y
@@auturgicflosculator2183 9 figure? Thats just hundreds of millions. It will be a 10 figure income.
I only see your videos to support you. I know I'm not in need of a GPU. My 6700xt still slaying. I gonna buy a new one only 8 to 10 years from now. Greets from Argentina!
Level1Techs just did a revisit with Intel Arc A580, it seems to be getting its act together now with drivers.
Random fact: I just learned that PCI-e 4.0 can deliver 300 watts. Wild, huh? PCI-e 3.0 was 75 watts. Wouldn't that "technically" mean I should be able to power a GPU without PCI-e 8x pin connections?
I wonder if all boards support this. Is this an optional feature? Or is this part of a specification and any PCI-e 4.0 x16 slot MUST be able to supply 300 watts? I know they still would keep putting PCI-e x6/x8 ports on GPUs to be backwards compatible, but I will have to test this on my 6700XT 12GB. It's PCI-e 4.0. My Asus STRIX B550-F Gaming WiFi II uses PCI-e 4.0 x16 on the first slot.
I almost don't want to waste my time because I don't think it'll work, but... it should, right? Unless the GPU is designed to only draw PCI-e 3.0 spec power from the slot for safety reasons?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the RT processing in RDNA4 were completely based on AI acceleration that AMD is putting into place on the Enterprise side of things. PlayStation also is working with Radion for their DLSS equivalent upscaler. Honestly, I’m really excited to see what AMD brings considering that 100% of their effort and product design is going into the mid range offering. If we get a GPU that actually delivers 50% more efficiency, like they promised last time, we could easily see a 200W GPU that outperforms 7900xt.
I’d buy it.
It's not that far fetched, the super series of 4000 gpu's are already in the hardware survey, while the XTX is the only 7000 gpu there, while the steam survey isn't perfect, in the amount of time they have been out, the 70tiS and 80S have already matched half of the XTX total%, and the 4070S already surpassed it.
It's my fault, I only use steam for the download and install, then always launch from outside
I mean I still have my 2070 super with dlss and frame gen mods I’ll hold off buying till the 50 series release 😅
Had a 4090 myself for over a year, near launch. No issues at all. I hear from more people enjoying their 4090s, and from news media/northridgefix hear about melting issues. So IDK. On Reddit all I hear about is peoples fps with their 4090s or their over clocks.
I've had my 4090 since October 2022 and haven't had any problems at all yet. I'm using an ATX3 PSU though so no adapter and also running an undervolt on the card if that has anything to do with it.
These prices are very good for what the cards do. Insanely, good prices.
I guess i got lucky i bought my 12400f right before the 13th Gen series came out. You need to give these things at least a year for all the problems to show up (if any).
The important thing about the nirvana edition is it uses ptm7950 which should resolve the chiplet related heat issues with those rdna cards. Idk why my comment was deleted
Only reason Im hesitant to buy 4080 super noe is because of the adapter to connect power. Im afraid it will melt. Amd here I come (again) I guess even tho I want a nvidia care.
20:32 Yep, there is a Xbox and Windows merge coming up in the future. It will be possible to play your steam games or Epic games on that system. I don't see Sony doing that. That's actually HUGE
6:58 That's a $300 PSU right there, I'd be mad++ not just for the 4090.
13900k and 14900k, we can see it is in range of between 40 an 50% or max 60% of them stable according to that research, and all of that not improved with "safe" setting. Something is off with these i9 CPUs. If this is true it is bad really bad for Intel.
I'm waiting for the next wave of GPUs. Even if i can get a decent card under 400 right now.
the rx480 still gets driver updates. its just devs have old nvidia hardware lying around but not old amd hardware is my take.
i love my rog ally. TBH the SD card reader issues ....... well isnt that big of an issue. i just got a 2tb internal ssd and havent had any issues. Like just get and internal one its cheaper and faster like boi.
So spenduch more money than a 512gb Sdcard.... What a corporate shill
@@jesusbarrera6916 boi why? 512sd card is so much slower and more expensive.
@@puertadlm163 they are $25 dollars on Amazon constantly... find me an SSD with that price to capacity, let alone a 2230 one
If everybody who said they were gonna buy AMD actually bought AMD then they would not be seeing a decline. Gotta put your money where your mouth is.
What you see in the internet does not reflect reality. Sure almost everyone on the internet complaining about nvidia and said they will go AMD but in reality they probably did not even make 1% of the market out there.
these are things meassured in hundreds of thousands, if not millions, people yapping in a comment section aren't really going to change marketshare
lol, even fewer people would buy a $2000 7900 XTX, which is what it would have to be to make up for the 50% drop
Theory of revealed preference at play.
I bought 3.
I'm leaning towards RTX 5090 but if they are gonna keep that same crappy connector I'm not going for it...gonna stick with my 7900 XT
to be fair, a 4070 super costs no more in the US than a 8800 ultra did at launch. but rent is doubled. food is tripled. spending in general is much much higher and buying power is extremely low for minimum wage or blue collar workers + inflation + economy + stagnant wages. it just smells of: why bother upgrading if the best games are indie anyway and cutting edge games demanding the newest tech in hardware are barely matured, require patching, are in early access or simply suck. and cpu´s are cheaper than ever. ryzen 7600 for 180? HELL YE. i paid 250 for my core2duo e8400 back in the day and even the core 2 quad q6600 was 350 to 400 when it came out. i will ride or die my rx6950xt until the next generation of consoles in 2027/2028. i do need the gpu power for games like ready or not at 4K etc, but definitely not for gloomwood or anything else in my library. but i never, not a single time, bothered for RT or upscaling. if i can not play a game without upscaling comfortably up to 120 fps, that game gets put on the: wait a couple more years pile. simple as that. it is always just people suffering from FOMO syndrome that complain about not able to afford anything new when in fact nobody needs anything new anymore. i played cyberpunk in 2022 on my rtx3080 before i sold it and i regretted playing it. should have waited for 2.0 patch and phantom liberty, should have waited for rtx4000 for framegen and reconstruction. so basically i should have waited until 2026, 6 years after cyberpunk got released into unofficial early access, before upgrading. i wish i didnt and still rock my gtx1080ti. well, i got a 400 dollar used rx6950xt instead and put honeywell ptm7950 on it and im never been happier.
Did you actually read the entire WCCFtech article about the Intel chip stability or did you just skim read it?
They create rumours. Then they say it’s cancelled when it’s obvious it’s not true.
my 4090 hasn't melted but i played at 1080 and will rarely wanna play at like 320-350 watts before i start capping frames lol
thanks
it's kinda silly I have to babysit my GPU cables for a few days to see if they're going to burn down my house or not.
Why should i "buy" a game if i cant own it? instead of buying games, the industry want us to rent them, so they can take them back from us anytime they want or they can decide to charge more and force us to pay for games that we already did paid.
I did refuse to buy Diablo IV mainly because it was "online only." I remember when i bough Diablo II LOD in 2001, i could either play offline or online. The depth and replayability of this game is insane! For me, Diablo 2 is the best game of the early 2000s I can play it even today online and offline. I don't need any internet connection to play it solo. Of course, its gameplay and graphics are way outdated. But the game is still fun to play even today.
When i go in the country side for at least one week, i bring my PC so i can play games whenever i feel for it. Often, there are no internet access nearby but with my games installed on my PC, i still can play my games.
Let's say now that i have an internet failure at home, I still can play my own games on PC. Well, that will no longer be possible if i am required to connect to the internet. If i dont own my games, i'm just not in control of my own choices anymore. And i refuse that! I refuse that gaming ecosystem.
Of course, business is slow at AMD. NVIDIA came out with their Super series to upgrade the series that already beat AMD, and AMD didn't do anything about it. They even stated they won't be competing with NVIDIA on the high end. I'm an AMD guy too, with an all-AMD system. I'm rooting for them. I'm waiting to buy stock in AMD, but they have to do something first. Show us you're going to be competitive AMD! At least bring out the 8800 XT already.
instead of playing catch game forever better to take their time to release a better and full thing... like they did with Ryzen i guess, it could work.
@@nicane-9966 because as everyone has mentioned, intel also stagnated, so they had to plan a response until their initial cpu design ran it's course, alder lake was their actual response to ryzen approach, meaning it's a lot easier to catch them up.
Trash on nvidia as much as you want, but as disappointing their prices can be, their products are still way ahead of the curve to amd.
The other segments (DC and client) are up over 80% and gross margin increased so it's anything but slow
@@shanent5793 Well their stock's been on the decline since March 7th for some reason.
@@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy it could simply be a correction from an all-time high. There was a peak of $155 in Nov '21 so it might find support there. If it drops below 138 watch out it might go all the way down to $100, which is probably the time to buy, if you're trying to time things
AMD is kicking butt in cpu right now. I can see them leveraging that and offering cpu+gpu combos to move cards off shelves.
I asked Asus and they dodged the question the exact same way. I take that as a"No". If it was yes they would say it.
thx
If a 7900XTX hits 700$ I’ll genuinely consider the upgrade.
Considering i went through a 7800xt, 7900 gre and a nitro+ xtx and had the same problem on all of them, ya not shocked.
i plugged in a 4080s did initial set up, watched a video for nvidia experience and have zero issues.
I wanted to go full AMD build but they made it hard.
Even with the amount of tweaking i did with the XTX it was never stable. It would work fine in some games and just crash others.
Edit: Yes the Adrenalin software is well laid out, but its function is not great. Most of the time having it installed breaks its own function.
Trouble shooting you cant even use it. You cant use hardware acceleration either. AMD is just disappointing right now.
The 4080s was also on sale cheaper then an XTX so it was a no brainer.
A friend of mine will probably purchase a GRE now to replace his 14 years old GPU in his new PC that we've built for him together in January.
I couldn't really recommend anything else to him where I live in the EU.
4070 Ti Super is more than 50% more expensive.
It's the best choice now here especially "around the border" of the new gen.
If he finds out later that he needs a more powerful card he won't lose that much value on the used market compared to anything else higher end imo.
$800 for what should have been the 70-class is too steep. Seriously, the "4070 Ti Super" should have been the 4070. Because ALL 70-class GPUs sold since more than a DECADE ago (since the GTX 670) have had 256-bit bus, not 192-bit, and 16 GB is something that the last gen cards should have had as standard, let alone the 4000 cards! No 70-class should be $600-800. Ever. How tf did they jump from $329 (GTX 970) and $379 (GTX 1070) to $800 in just 3 generations? 😠
All of what you've explained is totally inline with the fact that I've suggested my friend to go with a midrange AMD option for now. There's no real midrange Nvidia option I could recommend.
Especially since the guy wants to do VR where you target higher resolution.
The real question lies in, what's in store for the future of gaming, once AI technology gets a stronger footprint in the development of games and other software and with more sophisticated engines like Unreal 5 (6, 7, 8, etc all underway afterwards), that will bring us visuals and interactions some never thought possible. Will these older AMD or even older RTX GPUs suffice to enjoy next generation of gaming? Because it looks to be right around the corner.
I was on the market for a 4090 recently and was advised to wait for the 5090 blackwell cards, because of what's coming up ahead in the realm of gaming development.
The tech is changing, thanks to further development of AI. I'm curious to see what it will bring.
If next Xbox is equivalent to specs of a 1k-1.5k pc then I think that’s a very smart move for Xbox. They can offer consumers the cheap pc with great performance option. In theory that would be their best chance to stand out from PlayStation and be the perfect hybrid between console and pc. A lot of people don’t want to spend more than they have to, but people might be willing to spend a couple hundred more for incredible specs.
Nvidia is really riding the razor's edge with these cheap connectors. At what point do we all stop playing dumb and say the obvious out loud? You can only put so many amps over so much conductive surface area before heat becomes a problem.
There's ways to get more current out of small connectors, but it involves phosphor bronze, machine turned pins, and heavy gold plating, none of which are very cheap
how's your 4090 going brother
Surely any unlocked 13-14th gen cpu would have this cpu stability not just the i9s
I have said this so many times to so many people. If i buy a top of the line graphics card, im buying it to be able to crank up every single graphics setting and receive at least 60 frames. Most people do for that reason. Someone who pülays CS2 doesnt need a 7900xt to get maximum framerates. A 4070 will do the same thing AND allow you to play games like cyberpunk with pathtracing using DLSS, Framegen and ray reconstruction. Rasterization performance is NOT enough. Nvidia innovated so much in the gaming space, and AMD has never sadly.
This is why i would not go for an AMD GPU right now, and it seems most people wouldnt either. Their CPU´s on the other hand are Awesome.
What do these companies expect really? Most people buy a GPU and hold on to it for 3-5 years. Sometimes even longer after the driver support ends. Only a very few minority of the user-base upgrades their GPU every new generation.
Honestly, I've owned a 7900xtx for over a year now. Would love it if I still had the best amd gpu for a couple more years lol
My Asus b550i Strix motherboard doesn't properly support nvidia 4000 series GPUs. I also bought an ROG Ally and had the sd card issue. Fool me twice, shame on me, but you're dead to me Asus. Not one more chance. Got an ASRock board to replace my Asus and it's been rock solid.
Asrock boards are all I use myself just now. Prior to this, I always used Gigabyte but the AM5 board I used had horrible capacitor whine (or coil whine). So, I tried Asrock and had no problems whatsoever since, also got an AM4 system too with Asrock board.
Just got a 7900 gre to complete a new all amd mini itx build. Very happy with it so far
I just installed the same as an upgrade from a 6750 XT, and it performs like a champ especially after a memory overclock.
@@JonnyFlash80 yeah I'm planning on doing the same and applying an undervolt as well!
12vhpwr PCIE Cable from my Corsair RM1200X SHIFT also melted on GPU and is now losing Contact. I ordered täa new 2x6 compatible Cable that should come today.
Remind me to report back.
BTW I am using ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC with massive Coil Whine
How can you feel safe about a card that can melt at anytime and possible cause a fire? Imagine even if you are not around when it starts?
If the melting issue was from AMD, we would have news every day, and massive complaints!!
@@yeahitsme4427 it is a Power Cable issue!
The GPU is never reaching 70°C....not on Core, not on Memory and not on Hotspot!
it is the Cable that loses Contact and it is original from Corsair.
I just ordered one with sleeved cables.
I will report back
Not sure if related, I have an MSI 4090 and had instability issues with a Corsair 1kw PSU ATX 3 with the official single cable, nothing melted but blank screens and full cooler speed afterwards.
Tried a lot of stuff with connectors and software settings, nothing worked.
I switched to a Seasonic ATX 3 Prime TX, didn’t had a problem since, even when I’m to touching the connectors they are only worm compared to Corsair ones.
I’m thinking Corsair rushed ATX3 with some producer besides Seasonic like they used to use in the past because of demand, Seasonic launched ATX3 well over a year after 40 series launch and maybe designed it more properly. I don’t know if Corsair is using Seasonic again lately, but I doubt it.
If the SD thermal won't be fixed in the next iteration, it should be called the ROG Facepalm™.
I will keep my 7900xt reference until RDNA5 release
Keeping my 6900xt until it dies and may possibly sell it and go back to vega 56 lol
probably in the same situation, unless Jensen's heart grows 3 sizes in the next 3 years and the price of geforce cards become more reasonable
@@skorpers haha, I have vega64 & 6800xt use to play with BFRC
Yeah smart choice especially when RDNA4 seems like a flop when its still gonna be using 18Gbps GDDR6 in late 2024 and using small die
@@Gailim hmm... I thought gpu will be much more expensive in future
"4/5" didnt mean "four fifth" in this situation but "four to five"
I think it would be awesome if Xbox gets steam link as an app for this generation. Even last gen could do it.
If they drop the 7900XTX to $600 I will buy every one I can
RTX 4090 and 4080 remained distant in my desire to acquire them for the noble souls at NVIDIA and their partnering lords is seemingly still incapable of fixing the unfixable melting connectors that has lasted for almost two years now...
I’m hoping that 10th gen sees Microsoft leave the console space allowing Sega a path to give us the Dreamcast 2. A man can dream.
Well what do AMD expect when any new card below a 7900 XT had the exact same performance of their RDNA 2 counterpart? RDNA 2 launched years ago so why would people buy the same performance with next to zero power savings? AMD should have canned RDNA 3, and probably 4 and gone into damage limitation mode.
Q1 means:
-Enter the Super cards by Nvidia.
-Console users are waiting for PS5 Pro.
Brand new 7800XT stopped working within less than a month.. I will only look forward to intel/nvidia for their next gen gpus sadly..
I’m happy for Spider-Man fans and their console