PC vs Console in 2024... time to ditch PC?
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2024
- Is it time to just ditch PC gaming all together and get a console? This argument has been going on for decades, but is it finally time? Let's discuss...
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Just wait for PC2. Gonna be sweet.
That was supposed to be the IBM PS/2 .
That's the neat part, we don't need it, PC always evolves and you can do how you want, how much the upgrade or how much you want to spent, unlike console, you gotta submit to whatever console manufacturers want.
I'm on PC10 already.
But does it satisfy the GN X factor...
PC PRO is going to be awesome.
only way I go back to console is if they stop making PCs
My man 👊
Same here. Consoles are too locked down for me to be able to tinker with.
or if thay change input to mnk
Same here.
I think most of them do support mnk now. Games with crossplay sometimes show mnk as the input for console players. @@unlikerex5475
Let me save you 20 minutes. It’s not time to ditch the pc.
Ever.
😂😂😂 thank u but pc will be forever ❤
Is the steam deck any good?
I'll embrace PC gaming the day physical games are no longer avaliable. It's the only reason I'm sticking to consoles.
Best reason not to ditch the PC? Squadron 42 coming this year, or 2025.
Why pick sides, just pick what works best for you and is what you want.
People have money limits and enjoy batting for teams. Why do aliens in human skin seem to not understand people like competition?
The problem is consoles have far less games than PC
true.
if you mostly just wanna play games that are also on consoles.. just get a console.
If you like playing games that are exclusive on PC. or you also do other stuff like Photo/video editing which require a strong PC. just stick with PC.
PC has all the sides so no need to pick.
Honestly though, PC defiantly has its perks with more game variety, but can also do a lot of things a Console can’t. But if you Lena casual gamer consoles are still goated. For 500$ you can play games and have fun. I swapped to PC just becuase console game variety was mid for the last couple years.
I will say this. With the amount of games I bought on steam on sale, I probably made up for the cost of my PC tenfold vs a console.
Exactly, this needs to be more at the forefront of such discussions. Not just cheaper, you also never need to re-buy your games on future hardware generations.
@@seeibe When you buy new console, you can keep the old one if you want to play old games.
You buy pc games?
Don't forget on consoles you need a subscription to even play any games online.
@@McGeezlebecause steam sales are awesome... personally I buy from steam only because I know the likely hood of steam shutting doors are alot less likely then companies like epic games.
You hit the nail on the head there. Having a "gaming PC" is so much more than gaming for me. I get endless amounts of joy tinkering and planning my next upgrades.
Absolutely, same for me. It's also about the mechanical and upgrading that I get a stiffy for
And with a gaming PC, you have everything on one machine. If you own a console, it's highly likely you'll also own either a laptop or basic PC too for other stuff.
That is exactly why a console could be better someone else...
I'm not interested in getting a CS degree to be able to do all that shit.
I'm here to game. Not tinker. So lol no thanks
I’d choose PC over console for the wealth and breadth of games from 30 years ago to now.
They’re basically all playable, even if you have to jump through some hoops.
Also, they can be enhanced either with Nvidia control panel or with mods.
I love to be able to customise, even down to the thumb screws I use.
The faster FPS is a big one for me, playing games at 144hz is MUCH smoother than 60hz!
Yes.
PC Bonus : Hackers every game
For me, the killer PC app is adblocker. I haven't willingly watched an ad (outside of the cinema) for around 20 years. I live an ad-free life.
Yeah, I have the adblock-trifecta: pi-hole, adblocker, and a browser with a built-in adblocker (and on top of that, I pay for a family plan of YT Premium)
Me too, and I grew up without TV (only VHS)
Same.
Facts, and I'm always surprised a lot of people don't know about it and when I see ads on other people's machines 😮
There is such a thing? 😲😲😲🤦♂️
One big reason I love pc gaming is the fact a lot of games have greater longevity via modding.
And if you’re short on money, you can always get a pirated version until you have the chance to support the game
@@Iesous27 and chances are you can buy them at a huge discount as sales on PC are far more prevalent and at a higher discount.
And I can play a game from the PS2 Days without changing consoles or generations... PC "1.0" playable from the noughties to the present.
Was just going to mention the MODing on PC's. I have both a PC and a PS4 but enjoy my PC more.
@Iesous27 thanks for the drm
Console:
1. Ability to resell games and buy used games
2. Lower price and easier initial setup.
3. No compatibility or system requirement guesswork
4. Clear separation between work and play.
5. Collection display
PC:
1: Game Bundles
2. Control over parts and programs
3: Mods
4. Better but not perfect ability to carry games forward across systems
5. Easier to use for other tasks.
PC: gaming is bonus, you can do anything on it. Console: can only do gaming lmao
Steam's refund program is the best in gaming which is a big perk on PC. I've never understood buying a game if you're just going to sell it. If that's the case, you might as well sub to Game Pass. Also, if you buy a prebuilt pc, there's nothing any more difficult about the setup than a console. Nor is there any compatibility guess work. It's not difficult to figure out what a suitable gaming pc is for what you kind of experience you want.
@@cronyan I disagree. On PC gaming is a luxury that you have to opt in to when you buy your laptop. On a console gaming and the associated performance is certain. There are some laptops out there that have under 100gb of hard drive space and 4gb of ram. You are not sure to be able to install and run The Witcher 3 for example.
@@mulatdood I played witcher 3 on my PC from 2013 that got a GPU upgrade in 2016.
PC gaming is cheaper on the long run and better quality (performance, graphics, usabillity etc).
Console may be lower priced but for multiplayer games you’re paying a subscription on a monthly basis.
Days of reselling games will be over in five years or less. Retail stores like Best Buy are eliminating physical media.
One word that consoles provide over PCs and that is... Convenience. No messing with drivers, patches (that we have to search for, download and install), replacing/upgrading failed parts, no viruses and other malware, no software/hardware, hardware conflicts, etc. Just plug and play. Devs usually attempt to optimize their game for your system versus you doing the optimization. Former PC gamer turned Xbox gamer and I don't plan on giving it up anytime soon. 😂
I got into PC gaming watching my father play stuff like Fallout, Baldur's Gate, and Half Life on the family computer. Just this last Christmas I upgraded his old tower, went from a 4690k and GTX 970 to a 7800X3D and a rescue 3090.
PC gamer since the Amiga 500 got retired, and until FPS games was ruined around 2005 or so.
Building PC since 700 mhz
@@pliashmuldbaLOL... FPS HAVE BEEN BETTER ON CONSOLES SINCE 1997.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT I mean First Person Shooters, i gamed on a 22" CRT with 200 FPS and 200 Hz back in the early 00s
@@pliashmuldba I ALSO MEAN FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS, THAT HAVE BEEN BETTER ON CONSOLES SINCE 1997.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT Not from what i have seen, actually i have not really seen a FPS game that even looked half interesting in the past 2 decades.
NO Battle royale for me.
No calling in stuff or weapon upgrade / skill tree
And no Medic stuff, jabbing yourself with needles or padding your self with kevlar ASO
And if it do not have Capture The Flag i am not interested, it must also have always run i can not bother with getting slowed down by stamina ASO.
I’ve built many computers for myself and for others and I love it each time!
I don’t go as custom as you with the water cooling etc but I really enjoy it!
I built my first PC in 2022 after buying both a Series X and PS5 and yeah, needless to say I'm done with console gaming and have gone all in on PC. It's just been such a blast expanding on the hobby with a newfound interest in components, peripherals, etc.
I'm old enough to get tired of this console vs PC thing.
I have both of them and I appreciate them.
Fuckin A. There's so many reasons to own either/or. It's annoying and needs to go away.
PC MASTER RACE
have a Switch and have a PC, like... as far as I'm concerned, as long as you know what you are getting into, and you are making the choice for the right reasons, more power to you. I don't like people that are just "Console better." no PC is better from an objective standpoint, but that doesn't mean that a console can't fill a specific need. if what you get with a PC is not needed, and you just want to play (approved) games and watch Netflix or CR, then get a console. if you like the idea of game pass get an xBox, if you like the features of PlayStation then get that. if you want portability get a switch, it doesn't matter. a PC will get you further, but a console isn't a bad choice at the end of the day if all you want to do is play video games and watch netflix.
I built a new PC, and bought a PS5 on the same day. Both are good. I prefer my PC, but PlayStation has games I really want to play
These types of video are more catered to those that are younger or live in conditions not allowing them to own both. These people usually have to make a decision that have consequences lasting years until they find themselves in a position to upgrade.
Built my first PC when I was 15. Glad I started this hobby, it gave me money making skills that changed my life. I got into IT and now I'm a Network Engineer. All because I wanted to get into PC gaming.
Imagine if you had gotten into consoles instead...you'd be Louis Rossman now :)
can you become network engineer by getting certs or do you have to have a bachelor
you'd be an anomaly, most people waste thousands of dollars on what becomes a time sink that teaches them nothing besides how to install a few drivers
I'm a network engineer and I do as much gaming on console as possible.
@thestig007 exactly the same story with me as well, apart from I built my first PC when I was 10, it was out of my dads old parts he had left over after many upgrades 😅
What no one talks about in PC is actual loading games. On Pc a lot of games crash. Uninstall reinstall etc
A downside for PC's that was not mentioned is peripherals and a desk. You kind of mentioned it when you said that the console comes with a controller but on the PC side, in addition to the cost of the PC itself you will need to also buy a mouse, a keyboard, monitor(s), maybe a monitor stand, speakers, quite possibly wifi/bluetooth if you get a mobo that does not have it installed, quite possibly a chair, and the real estate in your home to have the PC on. The PC essentially becomes a whole set of furniture in itself. Starting out, some college kids in their first apartment might not have a desk or all the accessories but they probably have a TV and at least a dresser.
I game on both PC and PS5, thats my preference. I’ll always have my PC build in one of the bedrooms, and one of the Consoles in the living room.
Same
I have Do the same except I have an Xbox Series X.
Both in the living room for me cause it’s easy to move my ps5 to the bedroom, just swap an hdmi and bring the power cord and my living room is bigger to accommodate my setup. Great system.
Same dont need an xbox with pc
Yeah pc and ps5 are the best combination
I think the experience of playing on a console with a very restricted UI vs a custom PC with all the bells and whistles + modding support + ad blockers etc makes the argument a lot harder and it depends on if you're simply a "gamer" or a "PC enthusiast"
This🎯now what about laptops lol
@@jamerv777smerflaptops are basically the same but with limited upgrade capabilities and shorter lifespans.
Also no mandatory subscription to play online.
@@kurgan1291 lol now this is an underrated 1
@admontblanc heard. Lol but I'd argue TF outta that shorter life span point. Maybe in terms of like performance but there's things to improve depending on your use and how you take care of it externally. For example my first laptop I still have its Toshiba Satellite 15in quad core amd 8 vision radeon 32gig ram with a recently installed 512 SSD replacing the HDD. Not as powerful as my omen but good as new. Been having it since 2013. Omen since 2020
Consoles don't have word and excel. I'd rather the one box do all the things.
Honestly, to provide a bit of contrast to this comment section, let me speak as someone who built a $3,500 PC back in 2021 and just bought an Xbox series X for $330 during their winter sale last year. PC setup was over $5,000 if you include the two monitors, desk, and chair. I put a 3080ti and ryzen 7 5900x in my rig. For me personally, I love my gaming PC. But when you can get a console that plays games at 120 fps for $350-$550 it truly does make a PC a very hard sell. The current generation of consoles competes so well with a nice PC for such a fraction of the cost that it’s honestly astounding. Pair it with a a 120-144 refresh rate monitor and you can rarely and barely tell the difference between my pc and the series x. Also, while tinkering is a plus when it’s fun. Having to diagnose and tweak settings to figure out why a game is running like crap on my $3,500 PC is not fun at all. It’s annoying and irritating as hell when I just wanna play the damn game. Not sift through settings menus and check temps etc. I turn on the Xbox, I boot up a game, the game plays perfectly. Every. Single. Time. The consistency of that is truly valuable and I would argue a big con to PC gaming. I love both. But honestly speaking, I’d rather just buy a series x or PS5, pair it with a gaming monitor then get a $300-$400 laptop for work if I were buying again today.
My current set up is a PC, PS5 and Switch. They all serve their own purpose in the end.
This is the way.
Could you name the game that's better on switch than emulated on PC?
I rest my case.
Considering Emulating switch games is illegal in most countries....I wouldn't say it's better.
@@armyxveteran Piracy is not the same thing as emulation.
It is not illegal to run games that you own.
@@pondracek its not illegal to emulate yes, but acquiring the roms to play the games through emulation involves either having the equipment to dump physical copies, which most people don't have, or pirating, which is illegal, even if you own a copy and think its your right to have a digital copy, still illegal. Not saying I agree with that, but thats how game companies see it
jay letting his daughter just come build a pc at work for fun is such a cool dad move!
So great to hear he supported her ambition & creativity
Biggest thing i miss from pc and playing on ps5 is not being able to use Mouse & Keyboard on it. Only a few games allow it, the kind of game's I dont play like COD etc
wait what? I am going to buy a ps5 and I thought mouse and keyboard support was universal across all games.
You are so right. I have a passion for PCs. I love to build them and maintain them. I can't get that from a console.
A deep insight of the current PC Gaming scene for a Monday April 1st.
Was seriously expecting an April Fools video on this topic
@@TsengtheTurk LOL I was quite shocked to read that Nvidia had bought the XBox production rights from Microsoft yesterday, until I saw what day it was.
most of us voting for PC is because we all have multiple purposes of pc not just gaming .yt, work, twitch, editing movies,. multiple screens. and so on..
Console keyboard and mouse support? No, okay no.
@@antipathy17Xbox and PlayStation both have keyboard and mouse support
PC + PS5 or XBox
Nobody says it has to be one or the other.
The reason why many choose console is because they already sit front of the desc during work hours, paying bills etc. so when they wanna relax and enjoy gaming it's much nicer to lie or sit comfortably on the couch and relax. Also console you can take with you where ever you go, pc u cant. Console is also easier, just put it on and play... no playing endlessly with settings before u are good to play.
@@susanna8612 I understand what you're saying but PCs are just as portable if you get a smaller case and you can also play a PC on a TV and use an Xbox controller
Only reason I have a Series X is because I like playing backwards compatible games in 60fps and 4K HDR
@12:00 It does become addictive. I built my first PC last year and had an instant itch to do another one right away; Luckily my wife wanted her own PC as well after seeing mine which I built for her about a week later and much more efficiently lol.
What’s nice with the PC is you can still use it for work and everything else. Just get an Xbox controller you can plug in, and a 32 inch screen monitor. Also depending on your PC build, you can upgrade parts when new ones come out.
I work on a pc all day though so honestly I use my consoles in another room setup for games and movies and go back to my pc a bit on the weekend.
@@jd-py5nm A advantage of PC's for a lot of us is the building of it. Inspired by this channel I decided to do hard line water cooling.
When all the equipment arrived and I was surrounded by fittings and pipes and radiators and enough wiring to fit out the star ship enterprise I remember thinking
"This is that Jay's fault" But I'm glad I did it. It's part of the fun
if you hook up a keyboard and mouse to xbox you can do most everything you need to do as long as you can do it with a browser.
I use my pc for sim racing and music production, i also own a ps5 that i never use 😂
Less cheaters on consoles
My favorite part about consoles is split screen gaming on the couch. I built my first pc in 2011 under the guidance of youtube and eventually you, Jay. The passion for computers that that first experience created for me has carried over into my now burgeoning professional career
In the past year, I've built 3 of my friends pc's and mine and can say yes, it's addictive. It's satisfying to accomplish, especially when the first 2 had bumps in the road before I got em to post but those turned into learning experiences and worked well.
One thing I always tell people when they ask me about getting a PC is that yes, the price to enter is high but games are so often on sale that you end up saving so much money in the long run.
🙂 you get a free game every week at epic, next game is Outer Worlds and Thief
@@MrSamadolfo gamepass cost 10 bucks a month and comes with tripple a games on both systems.
PC where cheap 6 years ago that's absolutely not the case today.
Plus there are so many indie games that you just don't have access to on a console. It's well worth getting a budget PC just to have access to those.
having a PC is only expensive if you get all brand-new cutting edge parts. that's why PC building got stupid. people like jay keep telling you to upgrade to keep themselves relevant.
Another thing that can save you money on PC is not having to pay extra for online connectivity.
I gave XSX a try 2021-2024. Got a new PC recently to replace it. Honestly, if you're not a PC nerd, a console is a non-brainer. But I have that enthusiast bug and it won't ever leave. I just like top of the line tech when it comes to gaming, but I don't need it. Most people don't need it.
I'd still argue to get a PC even if you aren't a PC nerd. Most people already know how to use a PC, and PC doesn't require a subscription to play games online.
@KevDawg1992 the vast majority of people wa t sonething thats going to work out of the box a custom.oc isnt guareenteed to do that. That something pc cant seem to grasp.😊
@@digizilla164 buy a pre build if you really do not want to build your own. If you're close enough to one, go to Micro Center. The whole "the vast majority want something that works out of the box" argument doesn't really hold true nowadays. There's also the fact that there are far more PC gamers than console gamers combined.
Biggest part of consoles is they're convenient. That's it.
Yes, PCs are better, but so what?
Jay is right.
Once you build your first pc.
There's no going back.
I have built so many pc's
For myself for my friends and family.
And i'm thinking about building a new one again😅
But I also own consoles.
I have a PS4, xbox one x and xbox series x.
This video literally solves a question no one is asking. If you have a PC and jump to consoles then i pray for you
The only game I care for on console is NHL and they just don't seem to want to release it for PC. And I refuse to buy a console after PS4. The wait continues.
I'm 58 and You and Paul were the ones that gave me the knowledge to build my first Gaming PC back in the vanilla WOW days. I've now built 5 with my latest being my first water-cooled system. Thanks.
Hell yeah old man
You ain't kidding about that PC building itch! Built mine 2 Christmases ago and I still look at stuff daily.
I built 2 iAM4 systems n 2020. I want to build more.
I think this is the perfect example, some people like build more than the games..
*_"and I still look at stuff daily"_*
Daily? You're weird.
@JD99-zj3gq yip obsessed with the build not the actual application
Do you think the NVIDIA shield pro is still worth it? I have a conputer, but some games I want to play on the TV, which you (and i) recommend against. Unfortunately, those games that i want to play are in my steam account. I have a lg c3 2023, so it has built in game streaming as well, though i havent used it very much.
I own a modern gaming pc. Rtx 3080. And I’ve barely clocked any time on it. I like going to my couch and just pushing a button and my games work. The room doesn’t raise in temperature by 10 degrees, the fans aren’t blowing like mad. I work from home and the last thing I want to do is spend my leisure time where I work.
I’ve also noticed that games increasingly run like crap on my pc. Unoptimized, stuttery messes. When I think about upgrading my cpu which would require an entire pc refresh, It would easily cost me north of 1.5k
I am 25 and started watching your channel when I was probably around 16 years old. You single handedly ignited a passion for IT that I didn’t know that I had. After high school, I went to college and graduated with a degree in Cybersecurity and now work in the IT field. Thank you, Jay.
good for you wow! you should be proud of yourself thats impressive
proud of you freaky bro
Same hah
good for you but the real question is what's your rig specs
@@Alonne1 Lol ya ya! show us what youve learned from Jay2Cents!!! do u even have the Jay2cents AIO!!!!????
Literally recommended a customer of mine to your channel, this is honestly the perfect answer for every question he asked me. Hopefully he tunes in.
Just to add "one more little thing" to the PC side ... What about the INFINITE amount of GAMES that ARE NOT on PS nor XBOX ? ... Yep, I think that's a real PLUS on the PC side. Thanks
Yep, also you can emulate older consoles on your PC so you have a huge library of games out there.
Honestly, you don't have the time to play all the interesting games out there anyway, so I think the point is kinda moot. Gaming is one of my primary hobbies, but it still takes me months to finish a single game.
On top of that, dont have to pay an online subscription just to play
this. There are entire genres that did not make it to the console space or are severely behind their PC counterpart. Factory games, grand strategies, tycoons, etc. Also so many awesome indies on PC and on top of that - game moding!
Why not own both...
Budget.
That and whether you can be happy with a middling PC or if owning a PC is just going to be a money-pit for you if you feel compelled to upgrade your GPU etc. every year.
Part of me wishes I'd stayed console. There was something comforting about just accepting that their quality was the same for all of us. Whereas on a PC as soon as I have to start selecting medium quality settings I get the visual fomo and want to upgrade, haha
I think I built a PC in the gold days: in 2017
It still holds up to this day. It does not run games in max, but it runs most of recent games with no issues.
I spent 1000$ or so back then
mine want even run windows 11 built it in 2016 it has a rtx570 ryzen 5 it could run SWbattlefront 2 at max but not now whent back to console
What's with putting the dollar sign on the wrong side of the number?
@@dfxjedi There is no right side of the number. It varies by region and language. After always makes more sense anyways, it's not Dollars 1000 its 1000 Dollars.
Honestly I don't care what platform some one plays on nowadays as long they enjoy the games they play
Ya, but once the ps5 exclusives get announced, prepare for some rage 😅
@@hvyarms4496 I don't get angry at all to be honest. there are still plenty of games to play regardless of platform
You know, years ago, I started watching your channel because I wanted to build a PC for gaming. I'm doing things I never thought I'd be doing. It really is an experience in itself.
Great video..my friend was interested in switching to p.c
I'm going to send him this video..thank u
now when everything becomes digital you would think the price of games would go down a bit since they dont need to spend money on discs but no the greedy companies just want more money 😭
That was what they said about outsourcing, said about digital music, then streaming services.... It is a lie
I've stopped buying AAA releases until they go on sale. The indie scene is way better value now
In reality they did go down as we're paying the same we did for games 30 + years ago and just recently with PS5 have we seen the 69 dollar price tag. the only reason we weren't paying 70 a game 10 years ago was because of it going digital.
@@dozilla77 lol, going digital has nothing to do with it as everything that's digital hasn't made things cheaper. It's more actually unless you get a sale or go to a third party place.
@@dozilla77Funny I remember buying Doom 2 on super Nintendo back when it came out for 70$, it was one of the most expensive games at the time. THe difference is we no longer need the catridges which were what made them so expensive. CDs and the like should have made it cheaper since they costed pennies each to produce and going digital costs them virtually nothing and even physical copies could just be cards like the Switch and only cost 20$ per unit and be bloated uncompressed files.
17 seconds in and I've already had a good chuckle "whether or not you should just say screw it with PC, and get a console *dramatic music*" straight into the sponsored segment about a gaming PC
So glad I wasn't the only one to notice this irony lol
I have an ad blocker so I didn't had to see the sponsor ad... 😝
Yup, same thought 😂
My hp omen 15 was 1300 on sale but 1500 originally. So glad he said you'd wanna spend at least 1500 for a good PC. I was plan on starting around there. My omen kinda like a desktop as far as performance goes
6:33 You can build a good pc for around 500$ with a ryzen 3600 and a 5700xt (or maybe even 6650xt, 6700) if you buy the cpu and gpu used
I have a pretty busy life, so ive always loved just coming home, hanging with the fam and turning on the tv and ps5 and playing for an hour then shutting it off and not having to constantly adjust or upgrade.
Ive built 2 high end pcs now and cant stand upgrading it to play something. BUT i really enjoy the whole build process, its really fun.
I’m in the same boat
Same here. Sick to death of pc updating and patching. Plus pc cheaters ruin most games.
Was a die hard pc gamer in my teens, but I'm with you guys, I don't feel like tinkering as much anymore, the consoles are easy to just start and play.
Let me enlighten you. Steam deck.. waaaauauuuuu. Let that sink . 😂
Just don't upgrade?
Either way, you'll need to upgrade to whatever the newest console is, eventually.
I moved from console to PC in late 2015. Bought a Costco HP tower with a 6700 and put a 970 and PSU in it. The itch started. Realized I wanted a full custom PC so I restored the HP back to stock, returned it, and built one myself. The itch grew. Built a friend a photo editing PC that can play games. That turned into a few more friends wanting me to build them one. Nine years and at least two dozen builds later, PC building is a passion of mine. And Jay's channel is, in part, to thank for that.
Passion for gaming?
@@secularspectator That's probably a part of it, I became even more interested in gaming after learning how to build PCs. I can mod the games, I can mess with settings in those games, I can have a higher FOV, I can crank the settings to max or set them to the lowest settings for a huge fps gain and I can even max out my monitor's refresh rate at 165 hz by doing that and the games feel so much better and more responsive to play
It's a mental hygiene thing for me. After 6 hours of office work on a computer, a pc is the last thing I want to look at.
I have a good gaming PC and a PS5 and i found that, if you turn off all the "optimizations" ( vrr, 120hz, hdr, etc ) it feels just like a pc regarding latency ( on controller ) and it's quite a good gaming experience with excellent graphics. Having said that......a PC is a PC....much higher frame rates, tweaks, mods, etc and you're not confined to that particular platform. So, in the end....PC is the way to go.
I work in IT, so I'm sick of tinkering and troubleshooting, so I have been playing console. I have a PS5 and Switch, plus some retro og consoles. You plug it in, and just play. I have young kids and its nice to play some couch co-op games without button mapping/configuring.
I am interested in a gaming PC, but when I really think about it, the PS5 does everything I need it to at the moment.
*_"I work in IT, so I'm sick of tinkering and troubleshooting, so I have been playing console"_*
I work in the IT for a very long time, and the fact that you constantly have to tinker and troubleshoot at home to get your PC to do what you want, tells me that you don't know a whole lot about computers, you're probably a web developer who is only good at coding.
@@JD99-zj3gqwhat a rude and unnecessary comment. Guess we found the guy in the office no one likes to work with.
@@kendrift6347
Is that why 2 people thumbed up my comment?
I'm not the one being rude, you're the one being rude by the way you talk.
I just said that I doubt his experience, because I can't imagine for even 1 second that someone who has been fixing computers as a professional would have to constantly tinker and troubleshoot to get his games working, when my daughter and son don't ever need my help (an experienced IT guy) to play their games they bought on Steam.
Stop being so oversensitive, and learn some manners.
@@kendrift6347 He wasn't being rude but truthful. I don't work at IT... And I rarely need to trouble shoot to get my games to work. For 99% of the time it just works. I pick up a controller, push the guide button to open Steam Big Picture Mode, select a game with my controller and play. Simple. All the games I play don't even need you to buttom map as games with controller support is plug and play. Games without controller support on Steam will automatically keybind the most popular binding to your controller so you can play the games without binding them yourself.
Emulation is also a one time setup and you can use BigBox app to launch games and emulators using your gamepad too on the sofa and it just works.
If someone like me who isn't in the IT field can do this without running into technical issues and the need for trouble shooting, then I expect this to be second nature to an IT guy.
@@JD99-zj3gq How isn't he valid in arguing that a console requires less tinkering than a PC, and if he's tired of it due to his work, it'd be a good alternative?
Assuming the worst about someone by saying "you don't know a whole lot about computers, you're probably a web developer who is only good at coding." does not invite a good discussion, rather the opposite.
"Don't hook it up to a TV"... Here I am sitting on a OLED 4k LG C2. Unless I want more than 120Hz or I'm just plan stupid and screen burn it I'M NEVER GOING BACK
Same
You’re having a better experience than most. Enjoy it my friend!
Same. Haven't used a monitor in years and my games look sick on my HDR 4k, especially if you have a powerful enough PC to run DLAA. It's damn near perfection 👍
We all game on 42in LG C2s as well. I will go back to a monitor eventually as I came from a Samsung Odyssey G9. After going OLED, I can never go back to anything else but I do miss ultraiwde/super ultrawide gaming and now they have pretty decent UW monitors that are not small. LG actually has a 42 inch ultrawide OLED out now but the C2 has been life changing. That was my first taste of OLED!
@@andrewsolis2988 you do know you can set up your lg oled to game using ultrawide res right ? i know its not quite the same, as your have black borders, still cool thou.
What I hate about console controllers is that the moment they fall on the floor a few times, or get one drop of water inside of them. They just don't function anymore, $50 to $98 in the trash right there.
1: upgradable.
2: make it your own/ rgb
3: better graphics
4: you can use mouse and keyboard for all games
5: you can use programs like Microsoft office for productivity and work
The PS5's audio tech is incredible. The controller and it's haptic feedback and adaptive triggers is amazing and brings more immersion to games (I'm aware that it's also available on PC for PS games that later came to PC). Also, PS5's HDR settings is really well done, unlike windows hdr which is complete crap. I'm a PC gamer and I also enjoy my PS5 for its exclusives.
This is very true, as a PC gamer and also a PS5 gamer there's a lot of one sided viewpoints here, to be expected on a PC channel. A lot of people are saying the games are stupidly expensive, but if you get PS+ there's almost no reason to be a single game... you get many hundreds of games, with dozens that are AAA quality and many are first party Sony titles as well! You can totally get away without buying a single game for the PS5
Wait, PS5 has exclusives?
@@mrlightwriterWhen will Gran Turismo 7 make its way into PC…just like the Horizon Forbidden West?
I usually play on xbox controller because I always had an xbox before I got into PC gaming. I just got one of the dualsense controllers and it's a great controller.
Hopefully it last longer than xbox controllers have been since the new controller model that launched with the series X I'm doing good to get over 3 months out of one before stick drift or broken button
@@unknownunknowns Everything is possible...you're telling me you know in advance those games will never have a pc version?
I remember building my first PC with my dad when it was i386 processors… I knew from that point on what I wanted to do in life. Fast forward what 30+ years and I’m a Director of IT that always said I don’t want to touch computers when I get home from work (was consoles only from Xbox 360-PS5). I started getting into your channel last year as well as GN and Der8auer… Got right back into building computers! It felt so nice working on desktops and not just enterprise level crap… I really appreciate everything you do for this community and 100% it can help guide people into a lifelong career!
I'm impressed. My first 'build' PC was a 486-66, and that was VERY early on in the PC building days.
@@kwbarron I was a very young kid… I just stood there and touched things while my dad put it all together from a local shop. He was an electrician and into that as well :) my first personal custom pc was much like yourself; a i486 tower. I believe I still have my 3dfx box that we put in that!
@@dbrown23 I remember the 4MB 3dfx add on card from back in the 90's. That was a real powerhouse back in the day. I had one of those in my Pentium 200 with (maybe) 16MB RAM. An absolute blast to build and play on.
I built my own PC and will never go back to console as a result. My PC is made with a Z490 Godlike MB, Intel 12900k processor, 2 SLI bridged Nvidia 1070GTX graphics cards, 2TB ssd storage+1TB hard drive storage, 850W power supply, and 256GB ram. I plan on upgrading to the new Nvidia 4090GTX card and a 1000W power supply in August this year. Sorry to both Xbox and Sony they can't touch the power level of a PC. They are great for the price that they are but you can't do as much on them as the PC.
Am slowly changing out pc parts on gaming computer.
But honestly i want a dead silent mid range rig.
Kind of waiting for that arm desktop for that though.
I'm a German car mechanic and PC building is right up my alley. I find PC building therapeutic and fun
Not just a car mechanic guys, a GERMAN car mechanic
You know what is even betteer than that, that feeling of when you undervolt your pc parts but still get the same performance, lower power draw and a cooler system. I undervolted my RTX 3050 8GB and it went from 105w-120w of power to 75w-85w and it performs the same as defualt and my temps barely exceed 60C. That is what makes pc fun.
let's point out that people from germany still watching these channels
not like a flachpfeife
@@SargentD4 that does mean something though...Those German cars...they last.
I speak German, yet I am not from Germany. where am I from? Unnecessary question, but I love messing with people. 😂
as a builder myself, im very grateful for your videos. i know what im doing but im by no means a professional and i learn something new from your videos all the time. keep up the good work guys
Get You a PC..... I recently made the switch to PC, and lord, its stars system and universe difference. Now, I'm not tech Savvy at all but with help of this channel I was able to build a decent rig and now I'm gaming at 165hz with little load time. Now keep in mind the comp is on a whole greater level, be prepared for those L's...
I got a gaming PC with a RTX 2080 card, and a PS5. I play much more on the PS5, since I just wanna game, and nothing else. And it's such a streamlined experience, not having to worry about the hardware specs and settings. Before I got the PS5, I was thinking of upgrading the PC, but it's just to damn expensive now, and TOO ME, it's not worth the money.
Back in 2015, when I built my PC (which had a GTX 980 originally), I basically payed, what a RTX4080 card costs today, for the entire computer build.
And before the GPU prices went insane, I actually did recommend to my friends to move over to PC. But with today's prices? Hell no.
If high end GPU prices goes down again, in the future, then I might go back to gaming full time, on PC again.
But I fear that the prices will just keep on getting worse...
Since building my first PC about 2 years ago, I have convinced three of my friends to make the switch from console and helped them build their PC’s. Addicting hobby for sure!
I converted my room mate to PC and he only plays Warzone. I was playing in tournaments with him.
Your prefered controller and reWASD lets me play nearly any game on my HTPC
I own a computer and both consoles. And I have to say computers have benefits but price is out of control.
The price of pc gaming just isnt worth it like it was 20 years ago.
Very much true. The fact that a console killer PC price during the ps3/xbox360 & ps4/xbox x/s era was with new parts versus now which requires used pricing is depressing.
I can remember when a decent mid level PC cost LESS than an X-Box or PlayStation. The late 2000s and early 2010's was the golden age for PC gaming entry.
If you're on a budget when it comes to PC, you kind of have to think out of the box, I went on AliExpress, and got a somewhat oddball Chinese Erying MATX Mobo with an included a Intel Core I9 12900H( yes it's originally a laptop chip but it's 14 cores/20 threads with a 5Ghz turbo boost) that cost me less buying a mobo, and CPU separate close to the specs.
Also the used market, or if you're willing to get your hands dirty, and have access to the e-waste bin at your local recycle drop off, you can sometimes find some decent gear that with some basic upgrades can still game, and do daily PC task.
I literally just built my 5 year old nephew a basic gaming PC for Minecraft(Classic Cube on Linux so no MS account needed) out of an HP e-waste system with an Intel Core i7-2600s, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB SSD, and an old AMD R7 350 2GB GPU I had in the parts bin doing nothing, so for his age and the basic game he plays it does fine on a 1080p 75hz monitor, even if I have to drop it down to 720p in game, as he's happy as can be.
Price isn't out of control. You are just poor. Get educated get a real job earning 70k+ a year. Average income in the US annually is 69k if you can't afford 2-3k for a computer with 69k annual income you need to live within your means and sell your Lamborghini or whatever is chewing up your cash
The only thing that stops me from buying a console is that you have to pay monthly to play online.
I HATE how consoles aren't fully backwards compatible when they easily could be, that would be they're one and ONLY advantage over PC's.
"Dont hook it up to a tv!" But my C3 is 65". Even the Samsung Odyssey Ark is only 55.
I also don't understand this quote!
haha I just made the same comment for my C2
i got bit by the bug back in 2016 with pc gaming while in the military. after i got out i got more into computer and how they work. started watching you and linus and now i have a whole new career in IT and plan to be a project manager one day.
Wishing you the best ♥️🙏🏻
I have an older Gaming pc I built. Also have an Xbox series x. I could max out upgrades on my pc to run warzone 2 at around 90-100fps average on high settings for about $300 buying used parts on Facebook. How much different would there be from my series x with like 110-120fps. Kinda want to do it just to see the difference. Would render distance be better? Or would the game seem smoother even though it’s a lower fps? How much smoother the series x was from my Xbox one on Caldera was a massively better experience.
*Gaming on PC really is slowly becoming less useful. Consoles look great when you are 4K, on a huge screen, 6-18 feet away. But we will always need PCs to do office work and editing.*
If all I was doing was gaming, sure Id go with a console. PC just has way more things to do and easier.
Helldivers being a PlayStation/Pc only is just so nice
And you can't do your taxes on a console.
I'll add to this and say. There's no fee for being able to play with your friends on pc like you don't have to pay a subscription to Xbox live or PlayStation Network
Thats what most people dont get, they only think of gaming while forgetting the million other things you can do
I still would pick a PC even if just gaming, you still have more options available from games to mods and all that, like even something as simple as making a old game feel new with shader mods that you wouldn't be able to do with a console.
I jumped ship a couple months ago and bought a series x, my first console in over 15 years and I have to say it's been a fantastic experience. Quick resume is definitely the most underrated feature because I can sit down on the couch and within seconds be back into the game where I left off last weekend. I still love my PC for indie games but for the big game titles probably only going to be playing them on Xbox.
Quick resume is amazing but just resuming the game from last weekend isn't what it's for. You can do the same thing on PS5 (and PS4, and presumably Xbox One) and Switch and they don't have quick resume. Quick resume means you can play multiple games and easily switch between them. That's very important for game pass.
@@karlhendrikse I absolutely agree! Although that's not as big of a feature for me as like a quick launch situation.
30 fps at 900p is amazing imagine having 360 performance 19 years later
Great post. I have been building pc's pretty much since it was possible (i turn 60 this year) and I have always owned both pc and console. I use my pc for grafix/animation creation and work related uses. My console is for gaming. They both have their place and fulfill their role for my needs. Admittedly I usually have one game installed on my pc simply because graphically/gameplay its just a better experience. I like being at my desk/studio creating on my pc and I love sitting in my recliner with a beer smashing through some levels of various games. Hey I even still have an xbox 360 hooked up in my lounge cos guitar hero still rocks in this house.
I'm creating my pc I played for about 10 years on pley my pc will be about 5,000 dollars in parts what do you think
They did not say they are getting away from hardware. Sara Bond made a public announcement about this not too long ago.
People be misinformed or just spreading misinformation. They are definitely not going away from hardware.
I'm a mechanical engineer, so I switch between AutoCAD, Steam, Gamepass, Netflix, and VR...can't do that on a console...
My reason as well. Console's just for entertainment, just that. PC can do a lot more, games go on sale a lot. Consoles can't run exe files, you can't develop applications there and emulators doesn't work.
@@ynsignia Almost true except on Xbox if you pay the nominal fee for the development kit or similar, you can emulate on it. Unless they removed it.
Anything work related probably not.
I have a mechanical engineering bachelor's degree and an electrical engineering master's degree. I work as a computer engineer, doing both computer hardware and software development. I also do that stuff as a hobby.
Same.
Pc running Linux and a Steamdeck (or maybe Switch). What else would you need?
Honestly, I don't judge how good the new consoles are, I know for a fact that are worse than my PC and my overall PC experience so I don't care about them.
To me the capacity to play how I want is key, kb/m, +60FPS, res I want, ultrawide... big nope for me.
"Don't hook up your PC to a TV" - and here's me with a 42" LG C3 that is a superior display to any monitor I've previously owned and costs less. Unless you play competitive esports and/or FPS games you don't need a 240Hz + monitor.
I also don't understand this quote!
I think it depends on your setup no? If I had a PC in my living room I'd for sure get a TV like that for it, but for at my desk anything more than like 27-32" is waaaayyy too big imo
Lol. I am also on a LG OLED. I switched from an Asus Proart 4K monitor which cost a shitload of money. And the LG is just perfect. Especially for gaming. But also streaming. Mounted it to my wall directly behind my desk. It’s just great.
But I like my 65 inch LG OLED. I ain't gonna go back to a small monitor, I'm too old and the eyes are getting weaker.
Same here man. I just pulled the trigger on a 55 inch C3 and oh my God it is so nice! Screw these monitors that are double the price.
The only reason I'm considering ps5 for fps is to avoid cheaters on pc. This years cod release on pc has been absolute helllll. You can barely play ranked (in any rank) without coming against cheaters if your hidden mmr is higher than norm. I get a 1.2kd in ranked yet still see a .60wl thanks to me and my team losing pivotal moments to wall hacks. Far less cheaters on console with crossplay off.
And it's not just the big titles. Especially smaller ones with barely any players can be unplayable as every multiplayer you join has cheaters/bots that may even corrupt your save and the publishers/developers don't care at all. Then the moment you switch to console it's like a complete different game with things working as intended.
I own a pc but at the same time I own an Xbox because I don't have choice if I want to go on gta online. Pc version is full of modders and cheaters and I'm not up to spend countless hours when everything is obtainable in a matter of hours.
Good luck with that. Disabling cross play on certain games on console can make the matchmaking process take significantly longer.
@@opathoris not on mw3
@@opathoris can even break it too lol.
I love how this topic is about ditching PCs but you show a sponsor “NZXT” PCs. Hilarious 😂
Just when you were talking about career changes. Since my transition to PC I have now found a new found love/perspective of gaming spurring me to undergo a shot at game development, but meanwhile (thanks to your channel) I have also took an interest in PC building and understanding their functions ! Thank you Jay !
I became a software engineer out of a passion for building my gaming PC back when I was 10. My mom always motivated that because she knew it could lead to a career. We didn't have money to purchase parts, so I started fixing PCs to make my builds, and one thing led to another. I also know people who have been in a similar situation.
I often talk to parents who are afraid of the PC hobby, and I always tell them to direct their kids. Of course, as anything, it can become a bad thing. But if a kid is properly directed, a silly hobby can expand a myriad of career possibilities a few years later.
The possibilities a PC brings, the curiosity it attracts, and the problem-solving skills you have to develop, are things that cannot be neglected. On the other hand, a console is obviously just a console.
Anyways, I haven't played a single game for years now, but I still have a custom PC and refuse to work on laptops. I guess the passion is still there.
Edit: your channel has a great part on that. So thank you!
As a kid I loved consoles and when the Iphone came out, I loved jailbreaking and fixing other peoples busted jailbroken Ipods. I always told myself I would never be smart enough to be a computer engineer, but after watching tech channels like yours, I realized my passion for computers and have been pursuing a career in Computer Science ever since
I have my PC, PS5 ( both hooked up on the same monitor) and Nintendo Switch Lite but for completely different reasons. I like having the different feel, portability, and purpose for all of my electronics. In today's tec so many things are blurring the lines that why not just pick what you like and enjoy what you have.
One thing I love about PC is that the longer you have it the more money you save. No Xbox Live/PS Plus subscription, every game you buy will be in your steam library forever and almost always remains compatible with new PC hardware, and lets not forget about Steam sales.
exactly.. mine is 18 years old.. 1300 games.. all the AAAs I ever wanted. For this reason, I bought a 4090 and a 83" LG OLED with 120hz gsync............ fkn amazing experience
Some things that weren't mentioned:
- modding on PC is quite big
- on consoles, you have to pay extra for basic stuff like playing online or backing up your saves
also, internet/multiplayer is free on pc.
Not to Mention that some Mods for example Skyrim/Minecraft, actually cost money on Console while being free on PC and in most cases even look better.
Also I feel like the games last longer and are actually around to build communities. I’m still playing arma 3 today and that game is over 13 years old.
I did the upgrading path when I built my pc. I honestly love pc building. It’s a passion of mine. Tbh yes I love consoles too. I have a ps5 as well. But I prefer my pc over everything
for me, it's mostly comes down to how I play, these days I prefer to play on the coach and chill, of course possible to have a PC connected to TV but it's not intuitive or out of the box, I have a day job sitting behind the the a desk looking at monitor, I prefer to have it a bit different during my free time! That being said, I would like to have a SteamOS device that I can simply connect to TV with a nice controller and play my steam library games! I also have a steam deck, and loving it for playing all the indie games!
I've acquired some knowledge and i am not claiming to be an expert at tinkering with PCs on the software or hardware side at all.
However i do agree with the other IT people in the comments about the convenience of a console vs fixing PC issues just to get it to work.
My relative built my personal gaming PC last year but didn't choose compatible parts which i just discovered recently. Been dealing with crashing issues, boot loops, random reboots, freezing, performance issues and ive been researching/tinkering for a whole damn year.
It got so bad to where i switch to my PlayStation or Xbox occasionally because of the issues I've been dealing with.
PC = Multitasking... second and + Monitors... Cheaper games... can run other Programms like PS LR .... Mods for Games... special interest games like simulations. And the most important thing is, if a Game runs not smooth u can change settings till it runs smooth
🙂 plus the huge library of abandoneware and setting sail for other games that have been delisted
@@MrSamadolfo"abandonware" what Epic Games did to Unreal is criminal, how the heck they killed Unreal Tournament 4 for the sake of Fortnite?...
Yeah like all the new PC games run like butter...oh wait stuttering
Lol that was me. I built my first pc, then my teenager wanted a pc so i gave her mine and built me a new one. I did that four more times. My last pc is about 2 years old i9 3080 32 g ramm and water cooling. I need my grandson to need a pc so i can give him mine and make me another one.