RvD2: Ryan vs. Dorkman 2 -- HD
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2008
- The official, high-quality version for the new widescreen CZcams player.
Now in full HD, the way the film was meant to be seen.
Originally posted two years ago, RvD2 reached nearly 4 million views here on CZcams. Here's to another 4 million!
Contact: us@ryanvsdorkman.com - Zábava
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This 10 minute fight is still better than the entire sequel trilogy
They missed some seriously good opportunities with that trilogy.
Even better than the original trilogy
@@theworldhatesindia8665 but the original trilogy was made like 30 years before and the sequels like 10 years after 😐
A stale gram cracker soaking in dishwater is better than the sequels. The choreography for this (and the first one) is nothing short of excellence!!
"Hur dur everyting is betur dun da sekwals! Like me now! Me so kool!"
nearly 8 years later, and the special effects and choreography is still top-notch. incredible doesn't even begin to describe it.
So true! But today it takes 20 minutes to make something like this.
sorry to make it worse, but it might take up to 20 DAYS. Rotoscoping has me losing motivation after three hours, so it drags on for a loooong time :D
I know. it's frustrating, because some programs like sony vegas don't allow lazy frame by frame editing. I often get a similar result as in the OT movies, but with the overall look of the Prequel saber.
No sane animator will be animating video at 60 frames a second, unless they are getting payed a LOT of money. Try half that.
Gerald Bowen they had multiple sequels and such I’m not sure if this is the exact one you saw.
The “Two Force users fight for the lightsaber” and the “lightsaber hits Force user in the head” sequences from The Last Jedi were both done first in Ryan v.s. Dorkman. Iconic.
What if they saw this and decided to use it in the movie
except disney's version was shit and made no sense in context
@@leightonkekuewa1545 They did, most of the fight scenes had moments from fan films implemented, if you watch the credits of TLJ, Ryan's name comes up as a developer I think.
I miss being young. Coming home from school not having to worry about a single tax. a single rent. a job. a global pandemic. Just being excited for the next ryan v dorkman coming out. Replaying it over and over practicing the choreography with my toy lightsabers in my mom's basement. God what happened to our lives
The same thing that happens to everyone 🤡🤡🤡
I have not even watched the official Star Wars films but these two CZcams videos made me a fan of lightsaber battles. And of course I tried my hand at them with my childhood friend. We actually added some effects in post production. Fun times indeed.
"Thanks for not suing us, George."
Why do I feel like Disney wouldn't show that same kindness?
Well one of them is an older fellow who made a film from the heart to share with others who have a passion for his creation.
The other is Disney.
I think Ryan actually worked on the new movies.
@@derek9218 I doubt it. Disney doesn't allow talent...Ok I take that back. Disney doesn't allow talent that impedes what they want. They don't encourage creative differences.
@@kaiser9287 I checked Wikipedia and he was an effects artist for The Force Awakens.
@@JoeThomas-lu6fy Big Oof
After watching another couple of duels featuring Ryan. I have come to the conclusion that, despite the blue blade, Ryan is most definitely SITH. He is way too devious and cruel to be a Jedi.
@DarkShockwave55 was Ryan killing younglings?
@@jcb3393 I already did that
CARBr6 like anakin skywalker
Yes
Perhaps he has not gone through the process of bleeding his crystal red yet, like most Sith?
Still awesome.
Never would’ve thought of finding you here
@@EzDyt love it, still one of the best
Yes
This production is 14 years old but it's still better than 90% of today's work
Because it's done out of passion instead of following money. It's sad which direction the internet went .
for holding a blue lightsaber Ryan's attitude was very very dark lol
The color of the blade does not determine your affiliation with the dark or light side of the force
ODST4553
Although true, usually the lightsaber displays some sense of the wielders personality
Tyler Detering The initial crystal used in making your first lightsaber determines your personality. anyone can make as many lightsabers as they want after that utilizing as many different designs as they like. Darth Vader used his second blue lightsaber in his fight with Obi-Wan, so this proved color has no baring on which side you are on.
Well there are exceptions but, usually the light saber color does matter, not all the time, but when they are choosing a crystal it should matter
Tyler Detering
A blue bladed lightsaber is the weapon of a jedi knight that has chosen to focus on lightsaber combat rather than force abilities they are the guardians.
It's been 7 years we need a final battle
Yes Brandon vs. Dorkman
when michael gets out of physical therapy we probably will.
DualFalchionn If you want one, help Dorkman get better! :) www.gofundme.com/fafe9s
Curcle McKdoofus No, Ryan VS. Brandon VS. Dorkman
what happened yo dorkman?
Over a decade later..and I still find myself watching this from time to time..two very talented young men👍
so much better than the lightsaber fights from Disney star wars
@@rybald1973 Frankly it's even better than the Lucas ones.
11 years later and i’m still baffled. the quality of the sfx, the coreography, THE CONTINUITY THROUGHOUT EACH SCENE?! This was definitely way before it’s time
I can't imagine how much of an ass pain it was to edit the wall scene.
Ummm
Got the behind the scenes DVD, apparently the punches and kicks really hurt and they went full force. It was the most extensive vfx work and rotoscoping
Was listening to a podcast interview with Gordy Haab who's been scoring big star wars games for over a decade... was so pleased to hear this was the start of his composing star wars music! What a classic!
You know the best part about this is? Despite one or two obvious effects, the effects in this don't even LOOK home made. The Lightsabers are well rotoscoped and the Lightsaber slashes were well composited.
Over 10 years later and this is still 10x as impressive as anything from the Sequels.
Theses fan battles are way better than some of the battle in Star Wars
Choreography wise maybe, but they hold no emotional weight.
WhaspTV Agreed. Choreography is hard.
it's true because it depends on their fighting strategy either they got the right spot to strike the person down or they got the wrong spot to hit a person.
I'm also doing sword fencing in my martial arts class, they have pirate swords and Katana's, they have plastic pipe for people to practice their choreographs and they have a lightsaber toys as well.
better than all of them
Interacting with the environment is a crucial part of lightsaber duels, I think that's one of the factors that makes this battle so exciting to watch!
Disney should get these guys to direct their lightsaber dual scenes. THIS is how you do it properly.
Agreed
They did! Ryan worked on TFA and TLJ
Jackson The Epic Ah hell yeah!
Jackson The Epic to bad there was no good lightsaber duels in any of them
@@JacksonTheEpic I saw TFA on his imdb but where did you see he was involved with visual effects on TLJ?
3:26 -3:26
Still the best move I have seen with a lightsaber !! Still amazing to this day and I watched this 14 years ago
4:18
"Fuck off!"
4:22
"You fuck off!"
Lol
Still amazing... the music, the innovative fight bits, the overall choreography! So many clever (and even humorous) moves jammed into one fight! SO well done!
Honestly, the *only* element that was missing would be: cool costumes.
came back to this in 2021, still awesome
13 years later and this is still the best light saver fan film ever made!
This is 12 years old and still better than Star Wars 7-9
tal cual
2022 and still I think this is one of the best lightsaber duels ever made
Anyone else want Ryan to win for ONCE?
didn't he win there 1st fight though?
+AverageBrickStudios
Not anymore. I was too young to realize it the first time I saw this, but Ryan was really being a dick at the end of this one.
+MatserSensui Well technically no. At least not the "first" Ryan.
I need to re watch the 1st fight
I do
When they were slicing up the wall they accidentally carved the pagan symbol for infinity or immortality...Interesting since they both have a habit of returning from the dead
+Rogue Lord Kaz Never knew it.
Ayyy
GuessWho195 wow
this was one of the first videos i ever watched on youtube, had to come back and watch for nostalgic reasons
14 years later and still better anything Disney has put out
4:38 - Fight w/ our hands? That's just stupid.
Well, using the force you could seriously fuck someone up
Just ask Darth Maul. Or Palpatine, he actually tore peoples limbs off.
@@mrhashbrown8283 *HUE INTENSIFIES*
so uncivilized
A decade and a half later, and i still think this is undeniably the best fan-made lightsaber duel ever uploaded on this platform.
I still can't get over the fact that his name is Michael Scott.
My thoughts exact
Whats special about it???
Are you telling me you've never watched The Office? If so I feel sorry for you...
randomocityvideos no, I dont watch TV series, sadly, so please forgive me for my ignorance
@@frh6668 Right there with ya, bud.
Still one of the best lightsaber fights of all time (including the big Hollywood productions). I rewatch all of these fight every 4 to 6 moths or so. So awesome. i hope these guys got good jobs somewhere in production. They deserve it.
I know your comment is a year old, but according to someone in this comments section (I've yet to verify it for myself), apparently Ryan got a VFX credit in The Force Awakens.
13 years later. 2022 and this is still top tier. Some of the best dueling out there.
This was the first video I ever watched on youtube, it took me 11 years to find it.
Was it worth it?
Hell yeah
11 years later i still think this is the best lightsaber duel.
still better then latest star wars movies
dude i used to watch these as a kid, now im turning 17 in two days, still loving it.
10 and a half years old. My god, this is still the best fan duel to date.
For a so called "Dorkman" you're REALLY good at lightsaber combat
Form II is his preferred form to use
@@kylo_bess23 you know I did notice he was using form 2 Makashi the exact fighting lightsaber form Darth Tulak created and his fighting helped him through the fight however it was the Ataru form 4 of the enemy that caught him off guard he still won though
@@crimsonfang264, yep. Form II wasn’t really meant to be a counter to Form IV
Who’s watching this after Episode 9 trailer
I watched it when it first came out, part one as well...RvD1 and 2 are very nicely made and even after more then a decade has passed by these guys are still funny to watch. I always had respect for these guys and how these fights where equal to the fights in the prequal trilogy (Y) !!
I love how the guy who wrote the music for this ended up writing exceptional music for he new Battlefront games.
I love how they show light saber physics while they’re fighting against the wall like lightsabers cannot cut through everything like butter they get stuck on stuff all the time
Damn, this video brings me back.
Abrams, you know where to look.
he already did, Ryan is in the visual effects credits of episode 7
Tactical Ministries He was?!??! Thats cray cray! And I like how you're replying to a 3 year old comment and i just saw you around the same time you made the reply...
@@tacticalministries3508 Then he wasn't given enough creative control or even he couldn't save that garbage of a film. That movie was shit. Not even the lightsaber duel was good or made any sense
@@lapplandkun9273 he was on the effects team, not the choreography team
14 years later...and still f*ck!ing awesome!!!
Swiping the ground to throw sparks at your opponent was super cool.
Part one is the first CZcams Video that I have ever watched.
You can feel the passion in every scene and it is addicting to watch.
A timeless masterpiece
this fight scene is still the best lie action lightsaber fight to date 2020
I remember watching this as a little kid and being amazed and inspired to make high effort videos. I'm a grown adult now, and I still feel that way when I watch this.
12 years old and still amazing!!
For everyone watching this video, watch it in 2x speed, then watch it back in normal, you will never see the duel the same way ever again. :D
For those super saber nerds out there, what styles do you think they are using most in the video? Ryan's style is mostly quick swipes at the general target zones, and common static defenses, very indicative of Shii-Cho, but adds in a few spins for some light Ataru mixup. His aggressive attitude makes you think there might be some Juyo/Vapaad, but he doesn't seem to be enjoying the battle in a way a user of those styles would, he basically seems to be more fighting mad than using a passion driven style. Dorkman seems to be primariy Makashi focusing on tighter movements and more precise planned strikes. But he is also notably on the defensive for most of the fight and is very good at quickly intercepting strikes without counter attacking, even being highly defensive of unarmed attacks, very telling of Soresu.
God damn it...
You sir need to teach these fighting techniques to us.
go check out Terra Prime Lightsaber Academy
Ishvallan .Newgate they dont explain the 5th or 7 forms (their 2 subdivisions...). I was most interested in vaapad :(
they are getting to that this year, don't worry. Though if you're looking to actually learn vaapad, you are going to need to learn the first 6 before you can even try it because it is so advanced
I still to this day talk about how amazing these videos are. And I saw them soon after you guys put them out there. I just showed this to one of my students today. I hope these videos are never off CZcams because I love watching them.
14 years later, it's still one of the best fanmovie I've ever seen.
I still want Ryan vs. Dorkman 3!!!
Wild how this is a better fight than anything Disney produced
I remember seeing the first one of these and getting psyched about the sequel. Wild to think how old these are.
Aaaah yes after so many years watching this again, and it’s still amazing
Still better than anything Disney could do.
100%
fire the wardrobe guy
It's their costumes from the original video, which is significantly older. Not my favorite choice, but I see why they did it.
lol
Ironically I think it makes it look more realistic! They're in a real place, wearing real clothes... Do you think this fight would look better if they were flailing around in glorified bathrobes?
@@KickyFut I 100% agree with you, it makes the right special.
To think that there are movies in 2019 with special fx no where near as good as this, 11 years later...blows my mind. Glad to have grown up with these❤️
I remember when CZcams first came out me and my brother were searching best light Saber effects and we sat and watched a lot of amatuer light Saber videos of people doing VFX tests of twirling a light Saber broom in their backyards etc. And we were already amazed at the effects they made. Then we clicked on this video and we were like WHAT THE FUCK!!!! We shared this to everyone and would watch nearly everyday since then. This is among the best of the best of CZcams. A CZcams classic.
6:40 "Right. We'll call it a draw.
To me, this is the best one ever. It's got just about everything you could ask for in a lightsaber duel, especially an amateur one. The physicality in this is fantastic, I love how you guys incorporated punches, kicks, elbows, and knees into the fight, as I feel like that is something that a lot of people tend to ignore. The special effects were great. You guys didn't need to make part of your fight in an enclosed space, and part of it pressed against a wall, but you did and you utilized what makes a lightsaber a lightsaber in those places beautifully. The force gets brought in a few times as well, which is always nice to see. And lastly, the choreography. What can I say about the choreography that hasn't already been said millions of times before? You guys did an absolutely fantastic job with this. It blew my mind when I was kid, and watching it now, it still blows my mind.
Also, the moment at around 3:25 where the lightsaber gets stuck in the wall, you let it go to avoid getting your arm cut off, then kick it off the wall as it drops, catch it over your head, then reactivate it and slice down has got to be the single coolest thing I have ever seen and it looks so incredibly smooth!
Can't get over the kicking of the saber in the wall, overhead, and unto his hand.
Used to watch this all the time in my teens. Still enjoyed it almost a decade later!
same here and i love the humming sound of ryan weibers lightsaber sounds just like darth mauls lightsaber
This is by far one of the best videos on CZcams. The quality and detail is truly inspiring.
This fight has such a level of grit and realism to it that I find much more interesting and entertaining than the "epic" battle at the end of Episode 3. When everything is CGI, it doesn't matter if every frame has thousands of things flying around to fill in the background, it just looks sterile and lifeless without real human interactions.
I loved that light saber gag at 4:20 too. Very clever use of the force abilities when grappling.
There was actually more minature work in Episode III than people like to assume, the polishing and compositing was "digital", but comping's been a thing when it was all analog (OT for example). Many of the shots were also REAL shots of volcanos. That being said, for the technology being what it was back then, it was and still is amazing. You have to remember that the environments in RvD took place in a basic room, not on a lava planet, so come back to me if you could have done better.
Remember:
1. Travel back in time to 2005.
2. Buy out multiple iMacs and ILM Linux distributions, including teams of people for minature work.
3. Get ahold of Shake compositing software, Adobe After Effects 6.5, and Maya, and blend that work between 3D and compositing (compositing can be composed of any element, whether it be "real" or minature involving 3D scanning as well).
4. Own several million dollars and fake a lava planet and many more planets in the making.
Wouldn't have been easy. We wouldn't have Transformers, the latest Marvel films and many more without the prequels, Pirates of the Caribbean 2-3, the early Spider-Man movies starring Toby Maguire, all of which being ILM's body of work.
"... it just looks sterile and lifeless without real human interactions."
I'm not sure what you meant by this, the choreography wasn't sped up, much less "Non-human interactive", like Grievous for example. Grievous was CG, but was all rotoscanned through human references (whilst NOT being sped up). Hayden and Ewan trained for that scene for months on end, and every shot was human interactive. Anyway, hope this lends some new info to ya. Happy comping!
Playineth Menards you are so right. Too many people underestimate the prequels and make them underrated. They only look at the defaults rather than the qualities and don’t even inform themselves about how it was made. I watched a few criticism videos about the prequels and I finally have my own opinion. Yeah, they’re not perfect at all. Ok, Hayden Christensen’s acting is embarrassing in the episode II. And the anakin actor as a kid is not really better 😅. The political thematic doesn’t please everyone, they find it boring, not really well brought and badly organized ( I personally find it interesting). Ok, Jar Jar Binks is sometimes unbearable 😅. I agree, watching the lightsaber battles is sometimes a little bothering because of the useless movements and effects that the characters do with their weapons. And yeah, The relationship between Anakin and Obi wan is sometimes annoying because Obi wan often seems to be reprimanding his padawan. Some of the special effects have aged badly. Yes, the prequels contain all this defaults, maybe even more. But fuck. I don’t care about what people think, I like this movies, they entirely take place in my heart as Star Wars movies, way more than the sequels. For the battle against Darth Maul and the one between Anakin and Obi Wan. For the beautiful new soundtracks that this movies brought to the Star Wars universe (Duel of fates😱, battle of heroes😀 and many others. For the enlargement of the universe, all these new planets like coruscant or naboo. For the beautiful character that is Qui-Gon-Jinn, who was the only Jedi who really trusted Anakin. For the pod race. For knowing the Jedi council, and learning that they wasn’t entirely kind. For following the chancellor’s plan, and how did it resulted to the empire. To see how Anakin progressively turned to the dark side. For the high ground 😂. For all this cool stuff and even more things I didn’t quote. And shit, just because it’s Star Wars!!
@@user-cy6xl3vd3f does it matter how it was made if the movie is shit?
12 years later and we still need Ryan Vs Dorkman 3
I still have the DVD set for this, I remember waiting in my friends garage trying to sync up the timezone so I wouldnt miss the premier. Good shit. Had to come back for the 2020 comment haha.
Now all you guys need is some jedi and sith costumes to make it look even cooler
During a break from work, Michael Scott was walking to get dinner when a car jumped the curb and pinned him to a concrete wall. Today he is fine and recovering quickly.
Still, he will need our help. Anyone that can, please make a donation for his medical care and rehab.
Thank you all for your support.
www.gofundme.com/fafe9s
Hi everyone, a facebook site has been set up where Mike's progress is being updated. Anyone that wants to follow along with how he is doing can use the link below:
facebook.com/Supportdorkman
+Antoine Bandele oh shit, i hope he gets well.
How do you passing a lightsaber behind a metal grid fence?
+Antoine Bandele He finally woke up. :D
How did make the effect where Your arm gets cut off?
Tailsthefox90 Really? REALLY? Are you fucking kidding me? Antoine is talking about something serious, you miserable jerk.
Wow I remember watching this countless of times as a kid, and it's still awesome, the effects, the music, the choreography, everything is great!
Absolutely love it, even 12 years later this remains awesome!!
This is still perfect to this day
Fun fact: This was crowdfunded way before crowfounding became a thing...
This video was so ahead of its time
15 years later, and I’m still watching and 4:00 to 4:25 is just some of the most creative and brilliant moments I’ve ever seen
Just learned that Dorkman got in a really bad accident a couple years back. Luckily he's ok. He was at Comic Con this year.
You guys should remake RVB1 and RVD1, and place RVB1, RVB2, RVD1 and RVD2 all into one DVD. I would totally buy that.
Me too, better than the Star Wars Fights for sure.
11 years later but the special effects and the choreography Is still the Best one. My respects.
This was such a huge influence to me as a kid. Just found it again after talking about it with some friends. Thank you
It's 2020, and this will forever be the OG fan lightsaber dual. I wonder what Ryan and Michael are up to now?
Fantastic video !!!
4:22 What a joke, hahahahahaha. I like it.
RvD3 in 4K anytime soon?
This is better than anything in the Star Wars movies!
I loved this growing up, glad to see it again.
Still my favourite light sabre battle
My fcking god still good in 2019...
Most epic lightsaber battle on freaking CZcams
better editing, acting, choreography, and more story than the Disney star wars sequel trilogy. such creativity. also this was made in 2008
Just thought about this glorious piece of art today after seeing for the first time like 5 years ago.
Glad I came back.
Great job guys, you always think of a new and inventive uses/situations with lightsaber combat. Real outside the box thinking.
2019 Who's still here?
I am!
I love everything about this film and its had the same effect on me every time i watch it. God i love this film.
I still keep coming back to this video, even 17 years later like this. I remember losing my mind when I found out a second RvD video had been uploaded. I think the biggest thing that sets this video apart from a bunch of other saber fights is the facial expressions. You guys really nailed it in the moment to moment exertion and emotion.
4:03 when u ask a girl out on a date but she says no
2:17 my favorite part.
2020 and still really cool. I love the VFX in this over the practical sabers.
“Practical “ wtf
@@HistoryandReviews yeah practical. NonVFX.
If you’ve seen other videos of people using the LED lightsabers you’d know what practical is.
wow I watch this 8 years ago and now this video still looks badass