USED Lexus GS F - Worth buying over a BMW M5 or Mercedes-AMG E63?
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The Lexus GS F is often overlooked for the likes of the BMW M5 or the Mercedes-Benz E63S for not being quite as hardcore. But the Lexus seems to hold its value far better than the German competitors. Why is that? In this video we do. deep dive to work out what they're like to drive, what goes wrong with them, and whether you should buy a used Lexus GS F.
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00:00 - Intro
00:17 - Exterior
03:24 - Interior
05:24 - Safety
06:09 - Design & practicality
10:05 - What's it like to drive?
12:41 - Mechanical issues
14:09 - Should you buy it?
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Dream Car material here. This and the LC500
Oh, I do agree.
LC500 v8 is just a superb car, the most gorgeous yet unique looking vehicle in the ~200k price range especially in yellow paint and beige interior trim, the NA engine is just the most beautiful thing ive ever heard only thing stopping me from making it my dream car is it has no manual option which is to be expected in a medium-high end performance touring car
I can guess the answer is 100% yes before even watching the video.
shame its dead slow compared to the other othe 2
@@hexagonosaurus5848Hardly matters in the real world. Build quality and reliability are far more important long term.
@@hexagonosaurus5848the other 2 cars may be faster in a 0-60 launch by about 2 seconds, but are those 2 seconds worth the unreliability and issues that come with them? How many times do you launch a vehicle on you're day to day drive?
@@hexagonosaurus5848 But will outlast them for many years to come.. Speed isn't everything
@@Bmxchrome If speed isnt everything why even bother buying a "supersedan" ?
You are one in a rare group of journos to make eminently sensible comments about the comparative absurdity of many overpowered & over complicated European cars.
Keep it up. 😊
This car impressed Jeremy from "The Grand Tour" so much that he literally said he liked it more than the BMW M5 and the E63 of its time. Me....! I love it
Damn you for posting this, I've been following these for ages and the less people know about them the better.
Oh, we know about them :)
If people didn’t know about it, I wouldn’t be staring at a blue one with close to 100,000km with a price of $70k still for a long time.
same 😭 was genuinely upset when I saw that it had been posted
I really hope it doesn't appreciate for a while haha
🤣 would you go GSF, RCF or LC?
It's an F line Lexus everyone knows about them😂
I own a 2017 GS F V8. No issues at all, and maintenance has been reasonable. A very special driving experience.
Adam is incredible. This guy not only comprehensively reviewed a gokart, stuffed a baguette in a french car, and made a dedicated blooper video. He even judged a trolley!😂 I'd watch ReDriven even if I didn't need to buy a car, LEGEND!
he's also pretty hot ngl.
Top tier comment, mate. Honestly, comments like this mean the world. Thanks so much for watching and commenting
@@katzicaelFinally someone said it. The GS F's hot too
I've wanted one of these for ages and now you've made sure they stay out of my price range for even longer, damn it 😏
I want a fucking ISF, GSF, LC500, and just any Lexus V8s so BAD
Another great video, superb car. We don't really have these used car advice videos In the UK. Good work. 👍
Chris Harris from Top Gear test drove the M5 and GSF on damp roads and he picked the GSF
Endorsement by Chris Harris, that's good enough for me
I remember that
Chris Harris is a man who really knows cars
Great review, as an owner of a GSF I enjoyed this one! And yep added the lexion unit that retains the oem screen and menu and adds android auto and CarPlay but agree it should have come as standard or atleast an OEM optional upgrade etc.
lucky bastard
Good work guys, been looking at these for a couple of months now 😉👍🏼
Liking the updated format. Good work to you Adam and your team
I loved your point about being left handed driving a right hand drive car. For this reason manual cars feel so natural for me and are so fun to drive!
One of my old neighbours bought one for his wife. Exact same colour & trim as Adam has driven. There's never been any problems whatsoever. To me, I just don't like the front but everything else is fine. My old neighbours wife is a southpaw like me & the interior controls are just fine. I'd have one myself but they are hard to find.
Brilliant review!!
Wow what a stunner !, also great review !
Cue the Beemer and Merc fanboys and the predictable 'I've done eleventy million *trouble free* K's in my M5 / AMG' anecdotes.
Their point can have some validity - however they perceive replacing water pumps, electronic switches, head studs, cam adjusters, intake manifolds, bearings etc - as all routine preventative maintenance and regular expected running costs of their car. That is their version of trouble free ownership.
F'd if i know why but in my head when i read the, "I've done eleventy million trouble free K's in my M5 / AMG" it had a very Arnold Schwarzenegger accent.
😅😅😅😅😅
Cue the Toyota Camry fan boys criticising the M5’s and E63s 😂
@@Jason-BMWM5Typical. "Hurr durr Lexus is owned by Toyota so it's a Camry"
Definitely a car worth aspiring to get.
Only downside I can see is the fuel consumption though it's not as bad as last week's Porsche Cayenne.
Have to admit I think you guys have hit the sweet spot for the video layout and anymore tweaking would lessen the quality of it.
Felt like you wanted the viewers to fall asleep in the safety features overview lol.
Great work as always guys and as always keep up the good work and look forward to next week's videos as per usual 👍.
Honestly 11.3L/100km isn't even that bad. The VZ SV6 released in 2004 got 11.5, and that only made 190kw and was way lighter (and was also praised for being far quicker and more efficient than the previous 3.8L model). Heck, even only some 9 years ago the comparable HSV Gen F Senator (making 340kw) could still only manage 12.9L/100km.
I got 8.2/100kms in eco mode on long distance trip. Better than my RX350 I owned
Great review - it's been tough going finding one in WA, might search over East
Lexus V8s are so silky smooth, I have the 3UZFE in my 22 year old SC430 and it is such a lovely engine. Lexus leather interiors are soft and wear really well and the seats are just great.
Spot on review. Had a 2017 UK GSF for over 4 years and still love it... not a single fault thus far. Controlling tbe infotainment took a bit of getting used to, but you don't even think about it once mastered - I find it much easier than suspending my left hand in mid air to operate touch screen. 2017 models add adaptive dampers, so lesss firm ride in the non sports settings.
Owen was great. More of him pls.
Lexus are the design masters in creating cars and suv's that are difficult to place time wise. The other day, I was on the road and saw a Lexus LS 500 behind a Lexus ES 350. It's striking how both cars looked so similar and how far the ES's design has evolved since the early 2000s ❤.
Amazing car. Loved the ASMR safety features segment.
100% yes without even watching the video but you guys simply rock and ur videos are great so 100% watching and thumbs up too
Love this car and have been a fan of V8 Lexus since ISF series ... seriously underated and uber cool ...great review and interesting comments on M5 and E63.. You guys are absolutely keeping in honest , bloody well done !!!
Regarding the brakes. That is an easy fix, I have a 14 LS with the Brembo brakes and they made a ton of dust. Switched over to EBC red stuff a few months ago and those make 1/4 of the dust. A little bit of noise but not much worse than stock and I've found them to be a bit easier to modulate as well.
Good video and precise information. The rarity is very real, I’ve yet to see one in person. As an RCF owner I’ve only seen 4 others within 40 mile of my home. I keep my Pre Collision System off because it almost killed me lol 113k miles and can still touch 170 with ease. Last long time.
This and the LC 500 awesome, another top review.
Just bought this cars grandad in the 2006 GS430, perfect timing
The V8 powered RC, LC, GS and IS are the perfect cars for those who want performance, comfort, value AND reliability. My RCF earns
my admiration every time I drive it.
Welcome to the RCF club!
Me too for my GS F hot rod sedan.
Lucky man I been wanting one since 2015 but unfortunately I was only 11 when they came out but been my dream car ever since hoping to get one in the next few months
Own a 2019 GSF since new. Great car, its a keeper. Redriven and Savage Geese create informative entertaining car reviews. Great work.
How do you find the transmission shift speed? I'm possibly looking at one to replace my Toyota Crown at some point as I want something just as reliable and comfortable, but more exciting to drive.
@@JasonISF Transmission shift is fine, not as quick as a DCT but smoother around town at lower revs. Shifts fast enough when you are in the higher revs and it has been reliable. plenty of excitement when you want it.
Lovely car, added to my wishlist!
Indeed well done to the owner Karl you handed over a nice example for this channel…
18 RWD F-Sport owner here and it's a wonderful car to drive.
to own one of these is a true life goal.
what a beautiful car!
Love the “Driver Training” advice. Very appropriate
GSF all the way❤
Yes absolutely 💯 without doubt
Hands down. This is a must buy proposition.
Haven't watched it and the answer is yes. It will still work in 45 years time
I....just.....need a moment. Good god I love these things. And that would be the exact spec I would have. Such an amazing car. So much more interesting than a BMW, Benz or Audi!
Great review team! 👍
I own a 2016 GSF. Drives brilliantly, only issue is the internal carbon fibre clear coating cracks. Not a deal breaker but a pain in the arse to fix.
Shoutout to Kyle for allowing us to envy him. Sending hate from South Africa🤣🤣 Love your car man. much love bro🤜🤛
1:40 dude in top left casually walking out with brush in mouth lmao
And my LS500h!!! Every time I cruise with it, I thank God for letting me enjoy this beauty!
oh you have a LS?
@@RevLexus yes, but very unpractical for the little island where I used to live...the roads, and the parking lots are made for Toyota Yaris 🙈
@@MrLuba6a Oh is it?! I feel you about small spaces, I am in the UK and the parking spaces are designed for 1980's Euro cars. Modern day vehicles are too big
@@RevLexus hehehe...here, in Tenerife, can you imagine? I even do not dare to drive to Santa Cruz, only one parking place I know, where I can "smuggle" my LS. Europe isn't better either. This autumn I had problems with the parking the hotels offered .So, the troubles are enormous, but the joy of driving the beast is worth 🤷♂Only lacking AppleCarPlay, nothing else is missing 🙈
@@MrLuba6a Oh I can imagine parking is a challenge
About time🎉
This is a dream car of mine. They sound so damn good when you reduce the engine bay sound dampening.
Finally the video been released, I seen your post on the GSF owner FB group asking for "thing you hates/ cons about GSF"
One thing i have to add is the air vent on driver is almost useless at blowing air when aim at driver.
Yes we USA owner got a poverty specs GSF, no rear sunshades, no rear console control and no power open/close boot.
Seeing the Matador Red Mica on the GSF looks really good, I almost forgot that i have the same GSF in sitting in garage lol. Yes the front lower carbon fiber lip does take good beating from motorway usage.
Major service is every 60,000 miles (roughly 100k km) and by Toyota major mean (replace spark plugs, differential fluids, air filter/ cabin air filter and whipper blade lol). I also went and drain and fill the transmission fluid as well.
My GSF has 70k miles and so far no creak or rattle in the interior, the car does suffer from interior cabon delaminating on the driver side trim piece. The car originally from California owned by Lexus and later move to Texas.
Great reviews and cheer mate.
Is it the same for the Canada spec GSF?
@@v8_sami Canadian specs is the same as the one in this video.
Only USA got poverty specs 😂
Love the look of some Lexus models and I'm used to using my left hand for my mouse despite being right handed but I need a liftback or wagon
Me too. I'd love a GS but the practicality just isn't there. I wish they did an estate version.
I preferred the previous format. That said, I’ll keep watching because it’s great content 👍
I don't mind this new format but like u said the previous format was better.
When I graduate next year, this is my car of choice as a gift to myself. I've been watching the used values of these sit around $40-$45k so I am keeping fingers crossed they dip into the 30's again! (pre-covid, these were starting to dip into high 30's).
You guys should review the infiniti fx/qx70.
Maaaate. If you're ever in NZ, I have a stage 1 2011 B8 S4 that I'd be happy for you to do a review on. But be quick, because I may yet trade it on one of these...
Nice work guys.
LOL you accountant is baked AF!!!
Great video. Btw, the shown car got low tire pressure at the front
GSF first year only fixed dampers are a bit firm and on highways that vary from asphalt to concrete it’s not quite supple enough. 3600 rpm half+ throttle epic sound, TVD makes curves fun and a little slidey. Tach center w speedo = Porsche, so no adjustment when you go between the two.
Super awesome beast. Lexus for life…!!
You boys are stalking my Carsales history I tell ya !
Making all the prices go up on the daily
Great video, I havent seen a GSF since July 2023
Hot 🔥
Love seeing non-SUV reviews 👌
I picked up 10th anniversary model 4 years ago and love it completely. Not one complaint, living in a very hot place, I've experienced none of the problem you stated they may have, even when looking for real problems with this car, some people have to make up stuff like my truck leaks, but only a couple of cars. WTF? So why even say that then? They don't leak, but people do close stuff in the lid sometimes and complain about leaks, I've seen that happen before. This car is so much better at so many things than it's competition it's in a class by its self. The markets switched decades ago to shallow people that "need" but can't buy a nice car so they can rent it for 3-4 years, walk away with nothing but payments paid and more on the way, with no emphases on reliability or maintenance in the car equation, or enjoying that rental ever again. If you want to buy and drive your own car, have that feeling of not being stranded in the middle of now where or constantly repairing a car when you always need it, than you need to have your head examined for I.Q. and ego levels to see if you are an adult, or a kid or a women, figure it out fast because the future will mess you up if you blow money to look cool instead of long term survival. I loved this man analogy, I am tall, thin and ware lose close, feels good, I like it that way, and this is the sleeper of sleeper cars out there. I don't by anything for others to comment on, it's all about what I like. This guy's take on that behavior of car owners or car renters is spot on. Americans are the same, for most, it's more about what co-workers and friends think than having any sense about what the car is for in the first place for a forward thinking owner. #1) A to B every time without exceptions, sounds and feels good to be in, fun to drive. When you park and walk away, you often take a look back like it's a young hot girl, just to get one more smile out of the process, knowing you get to drive it again real soon. Buy this car used, you'll never get rid of it for something better. Maybe different, but not better. Everything else is a trade off of drivability / comfort for speed bump challenges and getting in and out on a double date. No better 4 person car on the road, although the SUV's may nicer for that, they don't set you free to really drive when alone like this cruiser will. It's fast, stops fast and the suspension in the corners can't be better or safer with is computers letting you fishtail just enough to make you smile and laugh with no chance of hitting guard rails or other traffic. It's how high power should be delivered in a luxury sports car. Love it. BTW, I just installed 4 new tires last month and the car feels like it drove out of the show room, smoothly rolling on the HWY, then zipping around lanes and corners effortlessly just like band new.
I hope you can find one if you want one. Most don't know what these really are all about so you may stumble upon a great buy, skip the 2016, it didn't have the much improved electronic suspension yet, 2017 on is fine, be patient, lot's of people will be selling assets this year needing money, maybe you can help. Good luck.
This is indeed a great car even just the ordinary GS. Sadly, it's been discontinued.
Is that front left running a few pound under?
Lexus GS F owners groups… you guys are awesome, Tesla owners groups… you guys are assholes.
Was the intro filmed in Zetland?
you guys have been reading my mind with the cayenne and now this video 😂 enjoyed them both
but this car didn't need a video 😭 it's a resounding yes, and I sure hope they don't appreciate for a while so I can get one haha
Points for the direction in life bit verse the ashtray gig 😂 I tell my daughter this all the time , although I smoke.
Perfect!
Pretty spot on review! I had a ‘16 GS F and now a ‘19, both are great all around performance cars. Neither is as quick as my former CL55 or E60 M5 but they’re pretty close. Lexus would have hit a home run if it had put an 8k RPM screaming V8 with 500hp in the GS F!
This owner has good taste of car. This GS-F is the best looking car and It's a gorgeous red.
GSF: the greatest car no one ever bought. Less than 3100 made worldwide 2016-2020. These are definitely future classics.
Adam come and review my 2020 LC 500 with performance pack....
Saw one of these in bright orange a few weeks ago. Real eye catching colour, it ain't your accountant's Lexus and it showed!
Is it the one on sale on Marketplace? I think it's a factory Orange one too.
I always skip the Safety features but this one was great xD
We want more of Owen!!
A good compromise on the GS F is the GS450h F Sport. Good economy and about 70% of the performance. You should review on those those.
Which year model is this 😢😢
I’ve been srsly considering a lightly used RCF
Will u guys pleaseeee review a Hyundai Tiburon?? I'm looking to get one for my first car. Hopefully if I manage to find one I could lend it to u guys for review and a video hahaha.
Can you please do a review on the Accord Euro CU2 please.
Beautiful colour.
Nice Seiko Presage 60s style 😁
Please do LC500 review pleaseeeeeeee😊😊😊
I'm not in nsw, But if you ever have a chance travelling to qld for holiday, my gladiator Rubicon is available for you
Having a 2012 gs350 down here in NZ (which is the same generation as this GSF) and even that got plenty of power the potential to lose your license. It will happily cruise along at 180kph as quietly and effortlessly as if its doing 100, only if we can do such speed here. :(
Its now my second car and my car of choice for going on a long road trip, so powerful, comfortable and luxurious while sipping fuel at below 8L/100km.
Also cant believe they stuck such a massive screen into a car back then, its still massive in todays standard.
But been putting the car up for sales for 4 months already and only ONE person came view the car :(
Someone stuffed a supercharger on a 350 and outperformed the V8 F-sports. Just so you know…
Actually they facelifted the GS in 2015-2016, so yours is technically not the same
Bloody great. A pity we don't get them here in Brazil.
Can agree with the gearbox issue. Been spoilt by the excellent ZF in BMWs. Makes everything else super annoying to drive.
Depends if you are using sport or normal mode and if you are manually shifting or in 'D'. Manually upshifting and downshifting in sport mode is actually the same time in milliseconds as a ZF auto. In 'D' the time to kick down to the desired gear is sluggish.
It looks like the rear vision isn't that great or is it just the camera angle?
12:57 apparently this issue is appeared to have been resolved with new iteration same engine inside LC-500.
It is my dream car , i own it now , im proud and thankful 🙏
Yes this is a gorgeous, too bad i can only afford a corolla. Even the is300h from -2016 is like 1100€ for the yearly service
10:41 I don't know about you, but I can't take my eyes off that bloody cable at the top of the A pillar. What's that even for and surely there's a better way to fit it?
Review a BMW m340i or any car with the B58
4:19 Sweet Seiko
I have an ISF in QLD and I can't even put the thing to it's full potential. Top of 2nd gear is over the speed limit already, honestly considering selling it for something like a BRZ
I had a gen 1 BRZ for over 4 years. Brilliant chassis but engine was very unimpressive, especially in the torque department. No way I'd ever have bought one as my only car.
I'm a huge Lexus fan... all brands have them. I'm comfortable with "settling" for a GSF over an M5/E63. The 2UR-GSE has plenty of horsepower. I only wish my IS500 and LC500 can from the factory with F suspension and braking option.
And it's only about $8-10k more for the V8 over the V6 car. The GSF was $30k for the V8 over the V6 car, I think the IS 500 is a better bargain.
Love the GS F, shame prices are damn expensive (even the 2016 models). Imagine if they made a wagon version... drooooool