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- Many of you asked for advice on buying used PCs, so today we take a look at the Facebook Marketplace to try and spot good and bad deals.
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I love when people try to make it seem like you're getting a deal when they tell you the msrp prices of 6 years ago. people are delusional
And They say that's what Amazon has it for . I always say bro u selling a use item u check use prices , also check when the item came out . Would u buy an iPhone 1 for 1000😅
@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis a sealed original iphone goes for $40,000+ 👀
@@bluebehrry8473 classic 😎
They're not delusional. They're banking on someone they can take advantage of not knowing any better.
Actually they are dishonest
For meeting up: a lot of police stations now have designated areas either in their building or parking lot for Facebook marketplace meetups. Always encourage that if it’s an option
Amazing.
Total genius. Awesome idea
Nah, I'll take a random dodgy looking apartment in the middle of nowehere that I went to pick up a 6800xt for $350 a few months back haha.
Yeah, I think they call it the parking lot
Just have all your transactions filmed directly by law enforcement. That's not asking for trouble at all.
Back when I sold my used stuff I priced it around 50-60% of the original price. Most people who messaged me asked if it was for parts or is it broken since it was the cheapest on the marketplace. 😅
pro tip: if it says "high end"
it ISN'T high end.
no, your 1650 and 3060 is not high end, and the msrp you overpaid has no meaning.
I list a higher end build as "exceptional" for just this reason. Yes, even today, a 12700K + RTX 3080 is pretty high end, but if you list it that way people are suspicious
Unfortunately closer to higher mid-end. High end nowadays is something like a 4080 super and above or 7900xtx @@johnhicks8626
So where would you put that in?
3060 Ti is entry level or mid Tier?
@@johnhicks8626 why not just list it as "Gaming PC - 12700k/3080" so people have an idea of whats actually in it and that the ad isn't a waste of time? i saw a few ads in the video listed like that and it made the most sense to me.
@@RSpracticalshooting I often do that too. I've tried several ways to garner attention... but my specs are always clear and what is new is shown separately from what is repurposed.
“No low balling, I know what I got!!”
always love that one.. i also love messing with people that put that on their listing by listing out the exact prices of everything they have.
Then you have those that cannot afford $2 for a 4090 anyways.
there's this pawn shop near me that just went out of business. Things in there were priced higher than new, the owner was an old boomer who once said exactly that to me. I swear it was actually a front for something.
Honestly lowe ballers help. Ive got really good deals from sellers who are relieved to get a reasonable offer and accept quickly after getting lowballed so much.
Aids usually
After your video I decided to look at the marketplace just to see what they had and the first one I came across was a listing for an "MSI godlike" mobo and the picture was of a gigabyte board. And the others I saw had absolutely ridiculous pricing for old hardware.
i now just go in there to have a laugh, it's like that in all countries.
i bought a way better system "brand new" for the same price of worse used pc's in fb marketplace. i will always buy peace of mind and get new stuff especially if it's a high ticket item that i need everyday.
@@UrbanGrafixltd It's ridiculous what they're asking for this stuff. I just build my own PC's and servers.
Right. I saw one the other day that said Liquid cooled but was very clearly air cooled in the pictures. lol
@@TheVelorian Yeah, it's not just lies but stupid lies. It amazes me the crap people try to get away with. I've seen listings for a "gaming pc" for $1200 with a Ryzen 3700 and a GTI 1060 and saying how great it plays AAA games.
@@Jimthenealslol for $120 less i bought a system with an R7 5700x, rtx3060 12gb, 32gb ram, 1to m.2, 750w PSU... all parts are brand names with 1-year warranty, does what i need and more! i was having literal headaches when i was dealing with marketplace guys before i decided to give them the finger. Best decision ever!
Dude that 6750 xt build is solid for 500. Thats insane. Prebuilts for that would be like $1200
That prebuilt was 1,400 2 or 3 years ago, I know this because I bought one lol. The slate Mesh 6 I buypower PC runs really cool too. 500 is a steal for that.
The graphics card alone is worth over half of that build - literally paid £320 ($410) for one new 3 weeks ago. So $90 for the rest of the components? I get the graphics card isn't new though.
It's a better deal than the $400 PC from Jay's previous video.
There are some generous people out there, I think it's very rare, but it happens.
AMD second hand market is crazy, I got a $240 used 6700xt and şt might be my best decision (3060ti sellers ghosted me)
At 7:35, where you see that price discrepancy between listings, it is important to note that one was 8GB and the other was a 16GB model. The one in that PC has the 16GB model.
Still not at all worth that for a 16GB 4060ti 😭😭
i noticed that too! it's just jayz being jayz 🤣
@@UrbanGrafixltdJayz being Lay-z.
@@CantankerousDavei'm surprised the editor kept that, totally meant to get a reaction from people like us 🤣
I find myself thinking I am a bad pc dad for the rigs I built our sons. Then I see these things J is looking at and I realise my standards are just really high. Our 6 y/o uses a 6700xt with a Ryzen 5 5700x and cost well under £1,000 letting me know how all over the place your prices are. Some of these rigs Jay looked over were genuine budget gamer scabby , smoke crack, rigs.
Cheers for the look.
A 6 year old playing on better specs than me?? I was on ps2 and Xbox 360 at 6 😂
lol ya, your standards are too high unless you're just passing down old hardware which is what i've always done so the systems they have are a bit overkill for what they need. then their previous system gets donated or are given to other kids at their school because i just can't be bothered to resell shit.
Those are my exact specs and I'm in my 40's. Your son/daughter is fortunate.
@@bruhbruhman349 I was playing Game & watch games when I was 6 🤣🤣. The first NES came later.
@@bruhbruhman349 Your parents must have been rich to have 2 game systems. My dad got me (himself) a PS1 for Christmas when I was 6. I wanted an N64, but Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo were a worthy trade for Donkey Kong. The family PC could barely run point-and-click adventure/puzzle games, definitely nothing with 3D graphics.
Hey Jay, you are right about people selling damage system trying to get fast cash. I have a few part around the house and I'm able to build good used system to sell at a good price at times. I always tell the person to come and test system / parts out before you buy it. Plus I also stand by my builds for service if needed. I've been doing this for years. I have not had one of my system die or return to me at all. (Thank God ) Now I have use some of the used parts to upgrade a few older systems in my day. Now I do have a few people that comes just to have a system cleaned
This is fun. Do more of these!!!
Not sure about elsewhere, but our local police department is a popular spot to meet for high value meetups. Failing that, a major store parking lot during the day, with someone with you :)
Having an extra body is a big thing. Not only for "reinforcement" but especially to be a buffer. 1 on 1, it is extremely difficult to pay attention to the item you are there to look at.
Side note; if in the US and legal in your state, or you otherwise have legal means. Carry protection, and not the rubber kind. At least when dealing with high value purchases.
"Trust your gut" is great advice. I've learned over the years to trust mine because it always ends up being right.
I will say, pay attention to videos such as this, and learn to make informed decisions. Prebuilts are nice, but not always efficient. I always trust what I build over what can be bought.
Very nicely done, explaining this all to people. Over the years my Laptops, and lab servers, have been Refurbished or used. I haven't had any real issues.
Legendary! Thank you for your honesty 💙
Interesting stuff man.. always nice to have a flip through the second hands, even if you're not buying.. it gives perspective.
Much love man, hope you doing well :D
Thanks Jay this gave me some good insight for listing mine for sale!
Needs to be Longer or More Often vids PLEASE these are really great content Jay.
That 4060ti was a 16gig model - the other you found prices on were 8gig and 16gig ... Great vid as always ... :D ...
Secondary SFF build I just put together from mostly used parts..
Fractal ridge + b550i aorus pro ax = $195 shipped from ebay
3700x = $115 shipped from ebay
IS67xt cooler = $42 new from amazon
1tb p3+ = $free with amazon points
2tb sn850x = $90 new from ebay
32GB lpx @ 3200 = leftover from prior build
5700xt raw II ultra = $100 from fb marketplace
open box sf850 = $84 from ebay
Sold a few parts from the prior secondary frankenstein machine I had before this so subtract ~$150. It's been great, I take it to friends houses for game nights. Waaay more portable than the pure base 500 machine that this morphed into.
Thanks Jay
Love the video. I purchase from recyclers or companies that specialize in acquiring computers in bulk and reselling. I find purchasing from an individual they tend to be delusional on what they want to make of the sale, I know most people want to get a good sales value but you want an honest value not a delusional value IMO.
i used to work at one of those recycle centers, building those systems. had a ton of fun, and it was great putting the systems up for super low prices. a lot of parents and grandparents bought "the kid's first gaming pc" from me. made me feel really good getting that kid into proper gaming.
@@ghomerhust I respect and appreciate you
Where do I find that type of bulk recycling center? I would like to find one near me. Thank you for your help in advance.
Probably already mentioned, but FB won't let you ship items for over $500, so some people just put that as the price and then tell you the real price over chat...though they usually call that out in their ad.
This was actually really entertaining. I would love to see Jay do more of these and lowball some more bros.
I enjoyed this video a lot, it was interesting and fun to watch!
I would say that a very big red flag is sellers posting stock photos from the manufacturer instead of photos of the actual product their are selling. I have fell for that before where the seller ends up selling a product that is too damaged.
The other red flag would be sellers announcing a price that is too small for the value of the product (like that $1 guy), then acting offended when someone offers them what they are asking and keep trying to up the price on you when you make an offer. I usually filter those low values because they are either faulty/damaged products, scams that target your wallet or your data, or delusional sellers.
Thank you for the video Jay and team.
I won't waste my time with listings that have $1 as the price. May as well not have posted any info or pics. If a person wants to sell something they should make it easy for ppl to make the decision wether they want it or not without any delayed back and forth making everything drawn out and more work than need be. No actual pics is a red flag too, and prices that are too good to be true are red flags too.
Jay can you do a short video talking about cablesmods and how their cables work? I just recently upgraded my PSU to an ROG, I had an Asus Tuf and it had cablemod wires, I’m wondering if I could use those same wires on my new psu.
New fan here. Gotta say after building gaming pcs just casually for over 15 years now I learned so many new things in your videos. You guys are hilarious and I appreciate all you guys do. I have the exact same laugh as the guy laughing at you in all your videos 😂. It sounds like an echo when Im laughing at him laughing at you lol. Sending you good vibes man. Hope to see you in good health. 🙏
Thats Phil
rite on j ty for the video hope your doing well
And I thought the few bucks I was originally going to ask for the second system I built out of my old left over parts was asking too much. I guess it was just best I decided keep it because it's eventually going to be a games server when possible. :)
Vary helpful video of the know how's of shopping used online.
I only sell stuff for cash,in my small town we have an online in person meetup spot at our local PD that's monitored so I only meet there and never had any issues.
Was about to say this. Having a 2nd person with you means nothing when some thugs pull out a knife/gun. Use the PD for meetups, any normal person will actually find it reassuring & be glad to meet you there instead of some alley/parking lot!
Here police would laugh at you when you even suggest such service ..
yup we have the same thing here and also out front of the fire department stations but sadly it's not advertised by the PD here which is fk'ing dumb.
@@sirmonkey1985 I forget how I found out but my PD has a blue sign that say's it's for in person online sales.I agree they should say there's a place for sales meetups.
thanks jay
Congratulations on 4M subscribers
Very useful, thanks Jay
I sold a older gaming pc with a Phenom II X4 955, 8gb ram, and an r9 270 last week for $35. Even really old stuff can still have some life left in it. All depends on what you want to use it for.
I really enjoyed this video. thanks guys
Thanks for this entertaining and enjoyable video.
Yo bro, could you review the JGINYUE AMD B650i ITX motherboard?
Also what ram is best for the board?
I'm not too knowledgeable about PCs, but I've heard it's a great option for budget gamers.
Would love to hear your thoughts on its performance, features and how to set it up.
Smiling!
I don't go by date especially in marketplace, I see the same listing from week to week that say, listed a day ago. That when you put 100 mile area and you get listings from 2000 miles away.
Hey Jay, do you think I should change my B450 gaming plus max mobo to a more recent iteration. I know AMD cpu sockets are retrocompatible (unlike intel) but I want one that can house at least two M.2 drives and at least four SATA cables. For now this one does all but the M.2 (but I'm also concerned with fans a bit. Only need four slots, but still).
I got the MSI motherboard z690.MSI 4070 ti graphic card.kingston 32 gb ram ddr5...cpu..i7 13700 k lga1700..4tb western digital black ..just need fans.. power supply a good case and windows operation with software. ..also need the cpu thermal paste..what do ya think .. just getting parts as I save money to complete my gaming pc
Hey Jay! Could I make a request for a video? I'd like to see a video testing a custom bios for the 7900 gre. Thanks!
Great video, I'm not in the market for used but good info!
This was a fun video, seeing what you would price these pc as.
I guessed about the exact same price you gave for all the buids
I've been doing online buy & sale PC deals since 2010, I have gained very good experience meeting new people and dealing with them, sometime i go to their place and sometime they come to my place, that's how i have been building my PCs ever since.
I have a 3080 with a 12600k and thinking about upgrading to a 14700k. Would this make any sense? I maingly play CS2 and some 4k 120hz gaming
Hey Jay. Love the content you put out. Hope everything is good. I was wondering if you can do 2 videos…1 explaining some of the right Ifixit bundles. And 2…any chance for a tv review maybe LG…the ones you go with.
check RTings i believe they have articles and/or video's on their yt channel of those tv's.
I got a PC for a friend on Facebook marketplace with a B550, Ryzen 5600, 3070, 256gb ssd, 750 watt psu, and 16gb of RAM for $640. It's not a crazy crazy deal, but I'm happy with the set up, and the case was actually clean. Optional stuff I picked up was an ethernet cable, GPU sag thingy, and I threw in an old 1tb SSD and a 1tb HDD I had laying around for extra storage. He's gaming on his old TV, so it's really only going to be pushing 60fps at 1080p. But he has so many avenues to upgrade, I'm pretty proud of the snag.
@JayzTwoCents i just sold a pc, had a 11900k, 280mm rad with noctua chromax fans, 32gb 3200mhz ram, Msi z590 pro wifi mobo, 1tb WD black m.2, asus rog strix 6700xt, EVGA 750w power supply, and corsair 4000d airflow case, what do you think i got for it???? just curious what you would offer vs what someone else paid
My current rig was a 4th gen intel with a gtx780 I got from a buddy in 2018. Since then I’ve slowly upgraded every part, mostly with used components. Now it has a 3600 and a 2080 super with 32 gigs of Ram. Only thing original is the case and the Blu-ray drive lol my next purchase will be a higher-end 5000 series for my b450 board, either a 5800x3D or a 5900x.
If you're shopping, please make sure to look at the laptop market. I have seen multiple great sales and open box deals on laptops with 4050s and 4060s, and those mobile GPUs will embarrass many desktop GPUs from the 10 and 20 series (and even some of the 30-series). The 4060 mobile is not significantly slower than a 3060 Ti desktop.
RTX 4070m is much slower than RTX 3070m, has same amount of VRAM (8GB) with only 50% memory bus (128bit vs 256bit). It's not always better just looking at the naming scheme. I had a laptop with 3070m and it was actually fast enough for PCVR with HP Reverb G2, one of the best resolution headsets. 4070m is about a 3060 desktop equivalent. 3070m is about a 3060Ti desktop equivalent.
OH SNAP!!! Look at you using the EVGA X20 !!!
7:44 I'm actually running that Asus 4060 Ti in my system right now. bought it in February as an upgrade from an Asus GTX 980 😅
Love your takes on the used market.
Im lucky not to be so budget bound that I need to shop used. I prefer having the guarantee, but I have sold a few items. Latest my old 3060 to a Ukrainian refugee. Nice guy BTW.
I always only sell face to face as in wanna look the other in the eyes and hand over the item without the shipping hassle.
Never have had issues.
If your patient and willing to drive a decent way you can get some really good deals. I always meetup at Walmart or somewhere with a lot of people. Also if you know about PCs and what to look for, non-working PC can be really good deals. A good bit have simple issues.
Paid $700 w/ a 2 year warranty for my new 3090 last year and i couldnt be happier. These recent generations haven't been enticing enough for an upgrade.
I had the ability to buy a 3090 for $500. Kicking myself I didn't. I mean I have a 3080, so was not hurting for performance.
thx
What are these sketchy comments from sketchy profiles with sketchy profile pictures. Hmmmm!!!
I know right! I was thinking that.
Bots have been getting worse all over CZcams.
Says the cat!!! 😂😂
Yeah frostedflakes with a piece of kitten bread.
A.I. used for paid marketing. We're not there yet
I play and work with GTX 1070 Ti in my rig right now, testing it for a week after I repaired it.
I play 1440p Fallout 76, it maxes out the framerate (72 FPS cap).
It is NOT a bad card!
Same. The problem is tech CZcamsrs like Jay lose touch with the common man because they work with high end enthusiast components all the time. The fact of the matter is that most computers since 2017 can run today's games at high speeds and high graphics. Upgrading is not worth it right now unless you want a few more fps or want to show off.
That intel i5 and gtx1660 comments was really helpful. A work colleague got ripped off by a prebuild company, they don't know much about pc's and got an intel i5 9th gen, 16gb ddr4 and a gtx1050ti. No speeds or anymore details given as to what i5 9th gen on the website 🤦♂️
Hate to ask this, but could you go over the Ryzen motherboards and what the limitations on them? I got back into building and I fear I limited myself with my b450 MSI motherboard with a 5600X.
I have a brand new high end water-cooled 486 with a 1200 baud modem for sale. Mint.
Seriously though, this was fun. I think anyone that's looking to save money on a PC should just build it themselves. These listings are soooooo sketchy...
You say that you doubt older parts aren’t new but I’ve got spec for sale that has a R5 2600 and RX6600 on a b450 and all posts are new and still have all the boxes
After seeing this video I really want to see a fallow up video but for home servers and how someone can get a cheap server going to learn on/ upgrade.
Just out of curiosity's sake I looked up what my build would be priced at brand new and it's about 4.5k. The 4090 really did jump up in value by quite a bit because that's more than I spent for the parts when I got them. To think I'm considering upgrading the mobo/ram at some point if next lineup of CPUs are good...
What's the laptop J using? Thanks!!
I look for really good deals on older tech, I got an i3-4130 system, spent 20 bucks on an i7-4771 and extra ram, popped in a 1050 and it's a good little system now
you live in fontana? i live close by, if you ever have parts for sale let me know!
I always get so much out of your videos
So what about the reverse, Jay? Can you give advice on selling a 2-3 generation old pc?
I only wanted am5 for the future I’m not upgrading yet but the option is there
Seeing these makes my build look like a steal. Built over a year ago Oct 22, 5700X, two NVMe 1TB drives, 3070 Stryx, MSI B550 MB, 32GB RAM that matches the best speed for that CPU. Parts were not bought at one time. I also don't just play video games.
Cost with tax rounded.
Asus Strix 1000W PSU $204
Antec DF700 Flow Case $97
Samsung 980 Pro NVMe Gen 4 SSD + G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB $248
Samsung 980 NVMe SSD $115
AMD Ryzen 5700X $219
Cooler Master Hyper H410R CPU cooler $33
No Jay Shouting out Victorville 🤣. Thats my home town hahah
@JayzTwoCentz is it at all possible to share a link for a Facebook Marketplace PC I have built and listed. Possibly you could critique which would allow for a more affective and reasonable price point?
This video is right on time. I'm thinking about selling my last rig and I have no clue what to ask for it. Any input?
Strix X570-E, 5800X3D, Strix3080 10G, 32GB (8x4) TridentZ Neo 3600 16-16-16-32, Gallahad360 AIO (Recalled/Replaced),
1000W EVGA PSU FM, OG 011D (80mm exhaust fan mod). Keeping my 12 UnFan SL120s and 4 TB of GEN4+ SSD's(7200Mb/s) 2G+1G+1G
for my new machine. I'm putting in some Mid Fans (9) $50 per 3pack and a 2TB Gen4 NVMe Boot. What's a good price since I have Enjoyed it for 3Yrs?
I'm looking at this PC, what do you guys think it's worth? AMD Rysen 7 Pro 4750G, X570 Taichi razor MB, 32gb 3200 gskill memory, Intel Arc 750, 1TB M.2, Corair D4000 case, and Corsair 750w gold PSU, dual 24" 1080P AOC monitors. KB and mouse.
The $450 ryzen is basically what Ive just bought in the uk from a cash generator place, but I paid £300/$380 usd, plan is to upgrade it slowly over the rest of the year. Will be a massive upgrade for me, currently using a dell xeon 1270 with a 1060 in it.
I always buy/sell at the local PD. Our PD has “e-commerce” parking spots with cameras and audio.
Did my recent upgrade on the used market specs are a Ryzen 9 7900x,nzxt b650e motherboard,EVGA xc3 3080 hydro copper,4+ TB m.2 western digital 2 Tb x2, 96 GB ddr5 g skill trident ram, and the icing on the cake was watercooling got a 2 Ek radiators a lian li reservoir/pump, 3070 waterblock (selling cuz I don’t have the card) and 3 bottles of coolant and a Asus Rog monoblock for 80 guy was awesome tbh best deal ever got proof of everything I know CZcams comments be skeptical payed 800 at the end of the entire upgrade! Architecture student that’s why I needed that much juice for my system
Really nice video with relevant content. Scary that you even need to concider robbery in this case. It has never be on my mind after hundreds of private trades in DK.
What would you guys think about the current value of a Vega 64 and a 2700x?
Jay, I'd love to see a video talking about selling and buying high end pcs. Like custom watercooled computers because I built a bunch of watercooled computers and am getting very not good prices because I think people don't understand what a custom loop costs. Jmi idk
jay haven't seen that this 4060 in the forum-offer is the 16GB model
I do these kinds for young folks getting into Gaming, AMD R5500(OB), 16GB 3200 (new) , MSI B550 Gaming X wifi (OB) , NZXT 340 (own light use), Corsair 550w Mod Gold (OB) , 1TB m.2 SSD Solidigm 41 (new), 4 random argb fans (can't remember) , Windows 11 licence, RX6650x GPU (new cheapest), runs about £500, which is a real value here in UK. I Hate scammers!
750w psu and you would have done them a great build with room for upgrading stuff without changing PSU in the future ;) Or else cool builds.. I just hate scammers too ;) All the best from Denmark
@@dane4890 There was a while the Corsair 750W shot up to $125. That was shooting yourself in the foot on a $500 or L500 build.
I got a Corsair 4000D with the guts from my old rig, a 9900KF, 360AIO a 5700xt and 1tb M.2 Inland ssd. Had a PSU and it poo'd the bed, so I had to rob one from another rig, simply because a new replacement had shot up that much.
I really find it hard to ask the money I want to ask for the rig now.... So she still sits here. I made a bad choice in cases. The Corsair 4000D is useless for mounting a 360AIO in the front, absolutely no airflow, even double stacking the radiator fans.
@@dane4890 He doesn't have the money for that, it would go over budget, and it's a 550W 80+ Gold for £20 - unused open box, new 750W is +£50!
inland ssd's tend to not have dram cache good for a game drive
What would be a fair price for just these components?
Rog strix x570-i
Trident z 3200 2x16gb
3700x - stock cooler
Evga black 2080ti
Is $50 for a 980ti good or is it just too old? Is no dp1.4 a deal breaker?
How much should a used 3080 or 3080ti should be?
I found a sff build with a 7800x3d and rx6800 for 1000 bucks, seemed like a solid deal
Something to consider when getting Intel 12th, 13th or 14th Gen.. Jay goes into it often but if they have a high end motherboard, it is quite likely there is CPU degradation from high OCs from folks that know how to or worse high voltage from folks that don't do any optimizations.. just points to ponder. I read folks on the forums complaining about their CPUs degrading often.
From what few times I've looked on Facebook market place or ebay where someone listed a pc with next to no information and when I've came to ask 20+ questions about it the person then ends up claiming to have already sold it (supposedly). Which just leads to wonder which sucker they managed to sell it to
The 6750xt is a great deal mine I got for Xmas new with tax was 379 , if I was still in CA id pick it up the system
That would be a good for Folding @ Home. The $1000 one.
I am amazed you haven't done a sponsored video with Jawa when it comes to PC building.
I still run a 3770k oc'd to 4.8 all core with 16 GB of 2400 mhz g skill ram and a rtx 2080. No real concerns so far since the most intense game I play is wonderlands/borderlands 3.
Edit: I managed to snag everything minus the case for around $600 right around the start of "the pandemic." I'll upgrade once I get a newer cpu/ram/mobo combo used for around $200.
did that first one list as having 2 graphics cards?
Hi Jay. During one of your videos you talked about your daughter using racing sim to learn how to drive. You said that some of the games are more realistic than others. Can't for the life of me find that video, so could you maybe say which one those were :)?