The Atheist Experience 723 with Jeff Dee and Russell Glasser
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- The Atheist Experience 723 for August 21, 2011 with Jeff Dee and Russell Glasser. Topic:
Russell and Jeff examine an article advising Christians on how to convert atheists.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
00:00- Intro & Announcements - Jeff Dee
01:11- Russell and Jeff examine article on how to convert atheists
22:46- Glen (theist): God cannot be proven to exist, circumstantial evidence for God, the transcendental argument for the existence
of God, asks how do atheists account for the laws of logic?
31:46- Alex (theist): has undeniable proof for the God of the Bible, also does NOT have proof for the God of the Bible
33:29- Keith: asks for recommendations of books on critical thinking
36:04- Jake: putting social constructs on God, defining the new covenant, God is a loving parent
40:52- John (atheist): the claim that atheists still need spirituality
45:37- Brian (atheist): the psychology of prayer, where does the conscious mind go when we die
51:14- Tony: 'witch' killings in Africa
56::28- Michael: asks what the point of the show
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m enjoying my personal relationship with reality. I believe in life before death. I'm an atheist. I'm happy.
beautifully written.
You dont say ? ....................@Stevo Devo
Life before death, fantastic simple quote that I shall use!
Good
@Stevo Devo lol
"everything is x or y"
"Then is god x or y?"
"neither"
"so that rule is flawed?"
"no it applies to everything"
"everything except god?"
"everything"
"so is god x or y"
"neither"
and then he calls for logic to prove his god. derp!
***** All you stated was just special pleading. Which by definition is a fallacious argument by default. To say this life is no more absurd that an afterlife is being dishonest. When you can test or demonstrate that there is an actual afterlife then your maybe correct. This life can be tested and demonstrated.
***** Again your assertion is just special pleading. If you make a god special then you can say the same thing that magic pixies are that reference point. Or the flying spaghetti monster is that same reference point. Having an all powerful god that can do anything would in fact be by definition be in and outside of nature. If this god was outside of nature then it would not exist.
Actually yes I can. Because once you give credit to one god then all other gods that mankind have create now have some form of validity to them. Otherwise you go back to special pleading. With or not independent causation more probable does not mean there is a god in anyway shape or form. That doesn't shut down the debate it further intensifies it. IF you say not then again your are being dishonest. Well yeah you need life to live and to love.
And to honest you only asserting things your not proving them. There is a difference. Maybe need should be part of your vocabulary.
Your premise is far to easy to figure out.
As a child student in a Catholic school, I was both disgusted, and astounded by the stories in the Bible: When I asked our nun-teacher, why Jesus walked on water, and frightened his followers, she asked: "Do you not believe?"; I answered "No". She then asked, all who do not believe, to raise their hands: Slowly, one by one, the hands went up, until about half the class had their hands in the air. I shall never forget this.
if only they asked us all this at age 5…I mean I couldn’t have been the only one…It would have been amazing to know that half the class didn’t!
What happened to that half of the class?
Well done 😅
@@papabeard4976the penguin beat them.....bwahahaha😊
"He exists, because he is." Crazy exists, because it does.
Roger Edgerton 👈🏼😉ditto dunmdass
He doesn’t exist because he isn’t.
Jeff Dee always been my favorite.
I think the actual hosts should adopt some of his style a little more often.
(maybe mellow it a little). But he is advocating for progress in a obvious "cut the crap" way. And thats good. People who follow this show now know the basics of critical thinking and why their beliefs dont fly. Jeff treat them like adults and respect them by doing so.
I agree. I miss Jeff. But he had a tendency to get very heated in the earlier episodes.
I love Jeff Dee. He don't take NO shit!!!!!!
@@RinaLottie1994
Every host and co-host reached their level of frustration. You are making a useless appeal to a false competition for the nastiest host. I laugh at you, as I am reasonably sure most of the hosts and co-hosts are laughing at your conclusions. "Have at it: as Russel used to say. LOL
@@Andre-bk6jp Are you okay???
@@RinaLottie1994
Do you have any better. LOL
"He exists because he... is." Best argument for gods existence ever.
he exists because of life?? I fail to see how doubting somethings existence because there's literally zero evidence is a worse argument than saying life exists, therefore god did it. argument from incredulity. look it up.
That was a dumb and useless comment. You're unworthy of further argument.
+helvet666:
Sounds like someone used the god of the gaps argument when it comes to how the first cell formed.
He is also making an exception for the "god" and probably claims it was prebuilt, has always existed and such.
And then he deleted his response. I guess he is now deconverted from his theism.
They never finish the sentence “he is”.
God does what I say.
I am his master.
I am eternal.
Because I is.
Jeffs facial expressions are absolutely priceless.
Do he have Botox in his eyebrows?
Come back Jeff you are sorely missed.
I love Jeff D. I can't stop laughing. I hope he makes a guest appearance again someday.
"Because he's necessary". Jeff's reaction to that was priceless.
My goal in life is to be like Jeff Dee. An intellectual, an artist, and a man with conviction in his voice.
That was such a fantastic show - I love Russell and Jeff, they're the hosts I enjoy watching the most (I don't want to say favorite because all of them are great), so it's so awesome when they host the show together. That was a lot of fun :)
my favorite part of Glen's call: Glenn - "I didn't call in to debate the existence of the god of the bible, I just want you to account for the laws of logic" Host - "you are saying the theist accounts for the existence of those laws by invoking god, how do you account for gods existence"? Glen - "because he's necessary" Host - "why can't I just say the laws of logic are necessary"? Glen - "but you haven't accounted for their existence"..... and he has NO IDEA how completely idiotic his argument is..... then he wants credit for erroneously accounting for the laws of logic.... priceless....
What happens to our conscious minds when we die? The same thing that happens to the horsepower when the engine stops running. It doesn't go anywhere, it is simply no longer being produced.
Derek Parent how do you know that
Beautiful analogy.
Derek Parent That IS an excellent analogy! Not provable of course, but still beautifully sums up what most atheists believe.
+Patrick Petion "how do you know that" - Erm... A basic understanding of how machines work?! (Further based on a - rather rudimentary, nevertheless firm enough - grasp of Thermodynamics.)
+Guppy Freak "Not provable of course" - Yet, eminently demonstrable - which is far better than what the 'other side' has to show thus far!... ;-)
I love Jeff, he might be my favorite.
duplicitous little weasel magical juju fairy for the win!
He is but never on.
Look how relaxed they both are! I like this combination of hosts. I think Matt is such a powerhouse that others may be (ever so slightly) intimidated by him.
Jeff can get quite animated when the right kind of caller calls in.
sunsheiiiiine Yes...and Matt interrupts his co-host CONSTANTLY. The only one I've not really noticed it with is Tracy, because he respects her. She is a powerhouse too. So he respects her opinion. You can tell how he disregards everyone else's opinions based on how much he willingly overpowers them.
How to convert an atheist. What an interesting theme. Since I'm already a converted atheist it's unlikely that theism of any kind is ever going to get me back. There is no evidence for gods.
Jesus stands and knocks at the door. He wants you to let him in so he can save you. Wha is he saving you from? He will save you from what he is going to do to you if you do not let him in.
Religion cuts you and then offers you a bandaid. It tells you that you are sick and then offers the cure.
+Dennis Pennington Holy Shit, jesus was mafia. Things are coming together. The mafia rules with fear, jesus rules with fear. The mafia forces you to pay for protection from itself, so does jesus. The mafia recruited weak-minded and vulnerable followers and so does jesus. It's all so clear now.
+Dennis Pennington Religions basically tries to scare you into being good,but unfortunately cannot engender the flowering of goodness that is innate within everyone one of us. Fear does not made you good. It just makes you fear being bad because you will be punished.
+Larry L
There is an Anime in which a Yakuza (Japanese Gang man) Mistakes Jesus as the leader of the Japanese Mafia becuase of the Passion...The Yakuza thinks he esacped the death sentence in 3 days because of his father and it's legit the best scene I have ever seen just by the faces Jesus makes.
Also, did you know that Jesus dosen’t like water? XD Apparently he's not a big swimmer and he runs a blog where he talks about Asian Drama's to his 'followers'. His thorn crown also makes roses! :3
+Dennis Pennington
So what changed your mind?
What convinced you that there's an invisible, magical god-being watching you?
I do not believe in invisible and magical beings. This includes gods, demons, devils, and aliens along with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
You all crack me up.
It was so derpy, but you kept laughing, keeping it fun.
Ok so Matt is my favorite and for obvious reasons but you two, in this show had me laughing hard. Good job guys!!!
I’d take Jeff and Russell over Matt nowadays. Russell is so patient while not putting up with too much crap. Jeff is the outrage which I suppressed for 50 years. Matt was an eager puppy at first but now is arrogant half the time and only seems to push the “quote the fallacy” button. Which gets old fast. We can all spot fallacies…ho hum.
Ever notice the "proof" of god is always an "Argument".
ScottJoC indeed, and never ever a single valid and sound argument - because no such argument exists.
Flawed at that.
Notice we don't need arguments for things that exist, like the sun, or water. Imagine "The Cosmological Argument for the Existence the Sun".
Callers are much better proving their own existence than god is in proving his (/hers/its).
@ConfusionFusion I used to argue with flat Earthers, then I realized you can't reason with an unreasonable person. I kept clouding the issue with facts.
This is a hilarious episode. I love Russel and Jeff. That article was a hoot.
i love jeff dees theatrical tone, he should voice act
+Dennis Kindberg
Well he is a (former?) illustrator, so he has an artist's background.
+Dennis Kindberg He does Pope Frank (as Antonio Banderas), Concerned Mormon Woman (as Droopy Dog) and a few others on The Non-Prophets podcast.
+Dennis Kindberg Dont u see who he is? Its Quagmire
Old post but still, what did your comment have to do with anything? Lol
Russell: "what am I, chopped liver??" Lol. I enjoy the charisma of these old eps, especially the Jeff and Russ combo!
I love you guys! I'm a relocated Austinite myself, I live in Sweden now (where it's gloriously majority atheist) and I watch your show just about every day. Just heard Jeff pronounce Pflugerville as P-Flugerville and got excited because I thought I was the only one who facetiously pronounced it that way. Haha!
"I have an old argument, shot down before, that has nothing to do with the Christian God ... blah blah ...therefore I think the Christian God is real because I have Faith " ... years and years of these callers with the same irrational proof of their specific God.
I love TAG. Let's define god into existence, and demand that atheists account for the laws of logic, which was invented/discovered by humans. Logic, math, and science were invented by humans. No gods required.
It's the dumbest argument. But fun to listen to people attempt to justify it.
Great show! Thanks, very amusing. Loved the 'like a curious child bit'.
Such a great duo. Always love hearing from these two
faith
[ fayth ]
belief or trust: belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof
A dictionary is a beautiful thing.
I thought Fayth was the thing that Yuna had to pray too in order to get the Final Summoning?
31:20 "Baahh!" Russell trying to help Jeff and Jeff being like "Lemme do it!" They're like brothers.
+Jesse Colton
That was funny, thanks.
You guys really are doing gods work! Thank you for taking the time to argue with believers. To some of them, it really makes a difference. You can hear the doubt in their voice grow 🧚
"..pick off the stragglers - that's not a bad strategy..."
ROTFL
trying to convince somebody that god exists is the same as trying to convince somebody that santa exists the amount of evidence for both are equal, that being 0
Jason doyle It's in the negatives depending on the god.
Santa leaves me presents under my tree so your logic is flawed.
Jeff's eyebrows are crazy lol
@Schuyler Vickers -- Do you have proof of your claim that Jeff's eyebrows are in fact crazy?
@@Clystron426 do you have evidence they are crazy? ;)
Character actor. He would excel
I love when Jeff and Russll host together, just to see them ending calls beautifully.
I fully understand your position as well. As far as the past...It is truly forgotten. Although I don't deserve your quickness for forgiveness, I feel humbly grateful. Thank You...Truly
23:01; actually Glen you could prove God exists - if God did exist and showed us some proof! The fact you appear to have conceded that you can never give any proof of God existence, gives the game away that you don't really expect it or believe it to be true.
Ian M stupidity
yes! 37:20 god never changes. change is good. doing and thinking and saying the same things over and over and over again expecting a different result. is by definition. insanity
Jose Vera you! troll, fuck off
einstein quote : doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a diffrent result is insanity . he also quoted :the diffrence between insanity and inteligent is measured in succes . but again he wasnt talking about religion ..
but about his calculations of sience
to refer to your change is good . to make mistakes ppl change if they learn .god doesnt make mistakes , we just dont understand him or why he does stuff
myjaku hintai the reason you don't understand god and why he does stuff.
is because there is no god and he ain't "DOING" jack shit. except sitting on his omnipotent ass and watching the insane people say and do the same shit over and over.
jose quervo faith is by definition glorified ignorance, and religion a lucrative business....2041
jose quervo for what I see i realized that you are also against the beard man ;) rookie mistake. We both accept the noneed existence of beardman
From the first day I was "encouraged" to study the "holy" bible and try to read it, I've never stopped hating that book of books, passages, verses, gospels ect. Regular English spelling and double meaning words sucks bad enough. I actually pity people who spent so much time of their childhood memorizing the entire bible with obvious untruths in it starting from the very first page. It's also a book that states in the book that this book is true. I saved myself years of time I could never get back. Religion forced me to practice my lying skills until I needed to sober up in AA meetings. Many meetings. Step one is about brutal honesty with yourself and measured honesty with loved ones and your sponsor. Also Christopher Hitchens helped me out for comic relief combined with intelligence.
I really like Russell and Jeff hosting together. As I was watching them in the beginning I was thinking "They seem like BFF's", and when Jeff put the tape on his shirt so that Russell wouldn't feel embarrassed, it clinched it. LOL
I love how every single theist starts tap dancing the moment they ask questions or start applying the same logic he is trying to his own god .
Did you see how god broke his microphone???
God didn't do that, you did, you're a narcotics agent I know it!
One toke over the line? You poor fool, wait til you see those godamn bats!
it is easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled
I was looking for this wiki how video a week ago.
I'm glad I stumbled upon it.
Easy just invite an atheist and God to have dinner at the same time. That'll show em.
Lol, yeah, you just have to "parent trap" god and the atheist!
Jeff is the host and Russell is the co-host?? What madness is this?
+Jesse Colton cause Jeff is the man!!
Shadow Chaser Indeed he is, but this configuration is so strange! Jeff is always a co-host, and Russell is always a host.
***** He might have been allowing Jeff some experience.
I'll never get over Russell trying to end the call and Jeff going "MAHH!" and slapping his hand out of the way.They're so brotherly.
+Jesse Colton Bizarro world. Surely, they should have goatees. Or...Jeff should. Or be bald. And Russell no goatee, but...hair maybe? Or be Baptists.
Or maaaaybe Russell had the topic...and (beyond maybe a short rant) it's generally the co-host who gets to prep the topic.
Thanks for the show guys, it's really great you guys do this from Texas of all places. Trololol.
Greetings from Europe. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Fkng love Jeff! Straight and simple!
22:55 - Glen, VA: Transcendental argument and lots of assumptions.
31:47 - Alex, GA: Apparently lied to screener.
33:28 - Keith, NJ: Russell's book recommendations.
36:04 - Jake, NY: Asking for help to understand/recognize some arguments.
40:44 - John, MA: Atheist asking about spirituality.
45:35 - Brian, FL: Now atheist college student calling to thank The AXP and talk about prayer and afterlife.
51:12 - Tony, CA: Witches, interpretations and confusion.
56:31 - Michael, San Diego: Loves the show, but what's the point?
Thank you!
I love how the hosts reversed his own ‘proofs’ against him. Classic.
This is a very nice, informative episode. :)
There is no "conundrum", there is merely you and I acting like two civilized human beings without false pride or emotion. I admire you, like I said before, for just being you, without outside interference (discombobulating confusion) edging us on.
I had undeniable proof of the Christian god. But my dog ate it. (re caller at 33:00)
Maybe his proof is in the same place as the IRS emails that were 'lost'.
And socks in the dryer. In fact, that's a miracle. Proof right there.
Is it OK for us atheists to start eating babies again?
Oh shit - were we sposed to have stopped? That email must've gone in the spam folder. Along with all the religious demands for £££...
Mark Mayhem I never stopped. They're high in protein
LOL -- I just wet myself laughing... :)
Did you give up eating babies...for Lent?
My ancestors were converted that way too. I'm glad I have rejected my faith from Christian to Atheism :). I feel liberated and value people, unless their logic is flawed...
Definitely with Russel on this , there is always grief when old hard disk die
I miss these guys.
😭
"I believe in an eternal mind"... "And I believe in the Rock Carrying Mountain JuJu
Russel's question to Glen is crucial: "How do you account for the existence of your god".
Glen is the king of running in circles.
@26:22, Russel poses the question, and then Glen is all: "Run Away, Run Away!"
It's all very simple... do you believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny? If you're not 5, then the answer is obviously no... why then would you waste your time believing in God?
I would like to ask all the atheists out there to do the following: if faced with someone intent on converting you, pretend to be converted, and then the next time you see that person, tell them you've changed your mind and gone back to being atheist. I'd love to know what would happen next.
then get converted again; just repeat the process until the converter realises they're not being taken seriously.
yup, fortunately or unfortunately
I did that to my cousin. I lost my faith when I was around 9 years old, when I was able to both read and fully comprehend what I was reading, I was about 13 to 14 when my mother finally accepted that I was probably correct and she lsot her faith soon after, becauswe she was utterly unable to answer my questions, yet even at that age, I was able to explain to her a valid answer to any of hers. She did not like it at first but soon accepted reality.
So my family is a bassively religious family ( or were ) and my bousin is a huge catholic nutter, and I did this very thing... I converted for her over time, and it was done mostly by phone, I just started to agree wit hher and it was mostly to shut her the fuck up more than anything becyse she is relentless. She now thinks I am back in the fold, but thats only cos she is so incredibly stupid and she is a follower purely because it requires zero knowledge of facts, only to accept what you are told to be religious, and I find that shockingly mental.
I am proud to say, that my firect family, my brother, sister and mother, not my father though, are now non believers and while at first it was rotten of me, they have accepted this and are now comfortable in the knowledge that there is nothing waiting for them when they die, other than worm food.
Damion Jones Well, if you have a sadistic streak, which I obviously do, tell your cousin next time you feel impatient with her that you've dropped all the religious nonsense and gone back to being rational. And if you're feeling like being a real shit, tell her it's her fault and make up a reason. The more ridiculous, the better. Then tell me whether her head explodes.
(Okay, I'll admit I'm not actually serious about ruining a family relationship here, but if anyone gets harangued by someone who doesn't matter to them very much, I'd still like to know what happens when you tell them you've deconverted.)
(Actually, what I'd REALLY like is for someone to play this trick on a Scientologist, but that could be dangerous.)
+Lee Brown
You are a disgusting nasty idividual, rotten to the core and cruel too!
I like your way of thinking... I will do it... But since xmas is coming up, I will take that as my cue.
Silly moment I will tell you of last xmas that gave some of us a good giggle...
My sister in law is polish. I sometimes have a dig at her but she is so nice, that I dont wnt to have a go too much. We know she is very religious but she keeps it to herself.
Now, I gave my nephew and niece a card for christmas with some money in it. We also gave them a couple of toys too, but the card was the main thing.
In it, I cannot remember exactly what I wrote, but its was something like
---------
To Kidsname
I better give you money cos santa is in prison after he enslaved all the elves and made them work round the clock for well below minimum wage.
From The North pole, whcih is what should be shoved up the arses of anyone who believes this shit.
x x x
Indeed. That's all I've asked for from him.
Ace is back! Hooray! Oh how we missed you! Your stunning intellect. Your mind-blowing replies. Your foul mouth. You really help our cause. Thank you, oh thank you!
So, about Balaam the talking donkey...? :)
Like I said, it's much easier to believe that we simply don't know that it is to suddenly say there's a god who created it all with no evidence of such. If I say I don't know, how can that be 'untenably wrong'?
Yet claiming that you are somehow privileged above all mankind and you know without doubt that a god exists and created everything can be delusion and 'untenably wrong' You simply make crap up to fill in your gaps in knowledge, your belief stems from ignorance.
Special pleading and defining into existence... Damn I hate TAG and anyone who thinks it makes sense or proves god is just plainly wrong. The flaws are just so kind numbingly obvious. Sigh. Glad these guys cut to the chase.
Gregory Dearth Actually there are even more wrong things with TAG than special pleading, depending on which version someone uses though.
The biggest fail is the very first premise, which is the cause and effect. No matter how you spin it, cause and effect only applies to the things INSIDE the universe (actually, that's not even true, quantum don't have causality but let's leave this aside for a moment). But just because the individual parts of the universe obey to cause and effect doesn't mean that the universe itself has to.
The same way, the parts that an airplane is made up off don't actually fly. The whole airplane though does. So the universe, exactly like the airplane example, more probably than not doesn't follow the same rules that it's individual parts follow.
Another big fail, again with the first premise, is that it is artificially creating 2 categories. Things that began to exist, and things that didn't. But in order for the 2nd category to be anything more than a synonym for god, you need more things that didn't begin to exist. If god is the only thing that didn't began to exist then they are bringing the thing that they are trying to prove (god) into their premises, which is obviously flawed.
I can come up with more if you like me to :P
Fus Ro Dah No thanks. That was pretty good though. I actually wrote a book on debating apologists (available on amazon) and devoted a whole chapter to just the Kalam (Dr. W. L. Craig version), fully exploring the structural fallacies as well as the more general ones. But when these types of arguments are made the fundamental flaws are almost always:
Argument from personal incredulity
Special Pleading
All the other fallacies are not fundamental on a structural level.
Gregory Dearth Kinda funny hearing you wrote a book about it. I just posted that finding out all the fallacies of the Kalam takes a book XD
Fus Ro Dah lol. Yup. The chapter I dedicated to Kalam is pretty damn long. And it was only possible to reduce it to one chapter after explaining various fallacies and simpler forms of bad apologetic arguments in previous chapters. I use St. Aquinas 'the 5 ways,' as a primer of sorts. Same fallacies, just more complicated. It masks its stupidity using pretentious jargon that probably wows the average theist.
Gregory Dearth Writing a manuscript is meaningless; having a book published has some meaning.
I miss these two
One of the advices on "How to persuade an atheist to become a christian" is "Do not discuss Bible details.
Hey, Glen, stop telling us we have to prove you point. It is your point. and it is a load of junk.
My brothers youth pastor asked when they’d see me at their church, I said “the day after my lobotomy”, he just gave me a confused look and walked away.
wandering_about why don’t you make offerings to Zeus?
wandering_about you just answered your own question.
wandering_about do you know what a lobotomy is? If he, or you, can’t figure out the context I can’t help you.
wandering_about because I can answer questions how ever I’d like. I don’t owe you or anyone else an explication. But since you need your hand held and everything spelled out for you, I don’t go to church for the same reason you don’t make offerings to Zeus. I guess it was just too difficult for you to piece things together and figure it out on your own.
wandering_about you’re not threatening in anyway whatsoever. Your first post was asking me why I didn’t go to church, which is the same answer as to why you don’t make offerings to Zeus. You didn’t like that answer so you whined about it. Now in your fifth message you’ve decided that what you meant all along was “why did you answer that way.” I’ll refer you back to, I can answer questions any way I like.
love these guys
30:00
That is the point at which I ask “why do you believe in a singular eternal mind when all of the available evidence supports the conclusion that minds are necessarily temporary?”
Glen = fail.
11:20 Jeff hahahaha
He's so cute.
Gawd I love this show...
16:50 Discuss natural processes such as entropy and chaos.
1. Chaos is not a process.
2. Entropy does create things, such as gravity brings a huge hydrogen cloud together and crushes it and forms a star. Or add lead to nitric acid and you end up with lead nitrate.
so.. soldiers in a tank can not be influenced by god in any way. Good to know.
yah, the steel keeps god out you know, hell if it can repel 3000mph bullets.... obviously it can repel god. sheesh.... it so obvious lol
well, it is in the bible.
methanbreather so god needs men in tanks to do things he cant do
nice to know
Chad W in exodus, God was defeated by iron chariots. So, iron is kryptonite
Kevin Lopez Iron defeats the god of the Old Testament? Maybe he's a Fey!
Jeff's voice sounds like Dr. Richard Dawkins.
Daniel Tan Uhhhh.....no.
HEΛRTS OF SPΛCE Budweiser's fault, must have had too much.
Daniel Tan Jeff looks like the love child of Jack Nicholson and Willem Dafoe.
HEΛRTS OF SPΛCE Is this Stephen Hill - the host of Music From the Hearts of Space? If it is... I love the show.
CODE-STATION Unfortunately, no. I am a huge fan of the show and was saddened to find there wasn't a HOS channel. Glad you're a fan! Slow music for fast times!
I lost a hard drive with some "programs" on it as well.
To be honest, I find it quite comical how religious people want others to believe their gods. Why? Why do you want me to believe what you believe? We're human, we're all different and we don't have to believe the same things. What do *you* gain from me believing something? *Why is your whole existence based on me playing pretend with you?*
Guys seriously please keep away from the politics. I am not sure why in the world you would assume that atheists only come in Democratic or liberal form.
Great point..!! I sure aint one of em..!!
makes no sense to vote libertarian(they vote republican) or republican as their platform runs completely against atheist thought
vivahernando1
Im actually neither one. But Last I have seen, democrats are jumping on the religious wagon as well now, I actually do not remember any non religious democrats.
I don't subscribe to the both sides argument. One party is full of overtly religious people trying to impose their religious worldview, the other doesn't
vivahernando1 I wouldnt say that one party necessarily trying to impose. Last I checked Ron Paul want trying to do that, as well as many others. Religion is but a small part of it all. On one side I will grant you there are a bit more religious, while on the other side you have many more bureaucrats trying to push their non religious opinion on to people. So I am at a loss why there is a difference in your mind. Republicans push religious view more, Democrats push their personal views. Im from the side that says, leave people alone, the only crimes are where there is a victim, so stop imposing views with the use of a gun.
Atheists need to convert back to Christianity. Let Jesus come inside you and you will feel a rush of understanding. You will be given the wisdom of the Most High!
A San Francisco Bath house Conversion..
Worthy Redeemed hahahaha
;; HAHA that was a great joke.
don't worry. i have no fear for an imaginary hell :)
Science? The Bible came before silly science! *****
great episode
The tape thing had me cracking up lol
Jeff is the best!
"You have to ask, 'conceptual or non-conceptual', that exhausts all the other possibilities." "Is God conceptual or non-conceptual?" "He doesn't fall into that category."
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Lol I was thinking the exact same thing. I feel like there's an easy answer too, if you're a theist God is non conceptual surely???
Miss having jeff dee on the show. People think Matt is a hardass, jeff was quick and to the point everytime
love you guys, there is hope for our planet. cheers
Geek Point: A better analogy of the brain would be DRAM rather than a HD. When a HD fails, you can send it in to people who can recover most of the data for you. With DRAM, when the refresh circuit fails or power is lost, that data can't be recovered.
I have been abused by religious people in the past. However, I'm not an atheist because of that abuse. The abuse helped me start questioning. How do I explain that to religious people who say that I became an atheist because of bad experiences?
I agree, sir. It's a lack of understanding in that fact, at least in part.
LOL I love the tape solidarity :D
Critical thinkers approach spiritual growth with a view to improving the quality of their beliefs through critical analysis. These individuals regard what they believe as provisionally true but know their thinking may be flawed. They are willing to entertain evidence and amend their beliefs when flaws are discovered or better answers are found.
Ephesians 5:4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.
Thank You for being honest. I can respect that.
Matthew 12:36-37 I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
Begging the question.
TAG argument comes up. A look of annoyance comes back over both of them, as Russel himself was there when Slick made it some years back.
"We're number n-1!" LOL!!
"We just can not fathom what entiles him to be insulting and demeaning, whereas we aren't."