How the Multiverse Saga Should End: Secret Wars
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- This video is a part four to a series of videos where I attempt to completely restructure the multiverse saga in such a way that I think would’ve worked better. This video focuses on Phase 6 but is actually the 2nd video to do so. The last video ends with 2026 being capped off with Kang Dynasty, ending on a cliffhanger that left the Kangs all dead, The Beyonder as the main villain and the heroes all being relocated to battleworld for the ultimate fight. This video focuses on 2027, concluding the Multiverse Saga.
Part 1: • Making Marvel's Phase ...
Part 2: • How I Would Structure ...
Part 3: • How I Would Structure ...
-- Timestamps --
00:00 - Intro
1:28 - What if...? Season 2
5:16 - Doom
9:43 - Guardians of the Galaxy 4
10:54 - Avengers: Secret Wars
19:50 - The Marvels 3
22:15 - Spider-Man 5
28:25 - Outro - Zábava
Spider-Man: Junior Year card I forgot to add (Spoilers for video)
Movie
December 2027
Characters:
Peter Parker/Spider-Man
Gwen Stacy
Harry Osborn
Mary Jane Watson (Michelle Jones)
Felicia Hardy/Black Cat
Flash Thompson
Betty Brant
Ned Leeds
Eddie Brock
Robbie Robertson
Uncle Ben (Hallucination)
Main villain:
Kraven The Hunter/Venom
Ana Kravinoff
Dmitri Smerdyakov/Chameleon
Edward Whelan/Vermin
J. Jonah Jameson
Sorry Dude there is no bejonder,the TVA is doing battleworld,and one thing spider man 4 happens before secret wars,also for spider man 5 we need something better
I think it would be cool if Molecule Man was included
@@anantonyproductiondude. This is a hypothetical
You also forgot to add the Blade card in your phase 5
Hey black lion here's a suggestion for your next universe restructuring video maybe do a Nintendo cinematic universe with their own versions of the infinity and MULITVERSE sagas
Insane how these videos make me excited for versions of movies that won't ever exist
yeah that's sad as hell
Scarlet Witch being the one to defeat whoever is the villain of Secret Wars is still likely.
Please don't end this series! You are really good at this! I'd love to see your take on Phases 7-9: The Mutant Saga!
I agree please make more and continue this storyline, u should also make one for how they could fix the stuff that hasn’t come out yet while using the crappy content they’ve made so far in the multiverse saga
I think that you made a mistake sleeping on the Hulk. He’s a fantastic character and it makes me sad how long he’s been sat on the sidelines. Great vid otherwise.
That’s like the only problem
The fact that he was put on the villains team is, quite frankly, insulting to the character. Bruce Banner is a man who has gone through almost every pain imaginable, emotional and physical, all in an attempt to be a better man. If he’s not a hero, I don’t know who is.
I definitely wanted to include a Hulk movie but couldn't find a good place to do it without bloating the saga even more. The idea then became that the Hulk would get a large focus in the 3rd saga in the form of a trilogy of solo movies + a She-Hulk spin off.
@@TheBlackLion001 Glad you aren’t one of those people who treat him like he’s not a legitimate character.
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I agree my favorite was the Dr Sampson/Hulk comics so much to explore and bring into into MCU
There's a plot hole in this Secret Wars: if Wanda's existence wasn't affected by Doom changing reality, she would have lived through the 100,000 years. This means either Wanda hasn't changed and acts as if it's still present day, which wouldn't make sense, or just by breaking her out, the heroes would find out it's been eons since they whited out, so that twist wouldn't work later.
Either the magic prison kept her out of consciousness for all this time or she is actually 100,000+ years old and the twist in Latveria happens before she's released.
A Dr doom show would go crazy ngl
Now, do the next saga!!!!! Please!!!!!!
I'm guessing since secret wars teased the mutants it's probably the mutant saga
@@t.tnetwork8654that would be awesome for this storyline he created, honestly all of this has been pure genius and I think it would be fantastic if he does a mutant saga
We don't know what the next saga is gonna be so let's wait
This is what the Multiverse Saga should’ve been
I’d also like to add something to Kang Dynasty, Secret Wars and Spider-Man 5 (unless this was mentioned and I either didn’t hear or forgot) concerning Spider-Man and the Symbiote where Peter 3 and other MCU heroes like Sam and Rhodey notice Peter’s acting pretty different from what they remember of him and Peter 2 realizes he has the Symbiote and tries to convince him to get it off because of his experience with Venom with Peter refusing, insisting nothings wrong and that he needs it especially at that point more than ever, and if the Symbiote is that bad then he’ll get it under control, and by the end of the movie when America Chavez brings Peter 2 and 3 back to their universes, when Peter is having his final goodbyes with them, the last thing Peter 2 says to him is “Good luck”, referring to the Symbiote, and so in Spider-Man 5 when Peter goes nuts on Kraven and Chameleon, he realizes that Peter 2 was right and gets the suit off, at one point, maybe just before we see Uncle Ben, he wishes he listened to Peter 2 and that’s when Uncle Ben shows up to lift him back up
Also, 15:45 Armored Adventures footage! :D
This is fantastic! Will there be a Phase 7 continuation?
I feel Secret wars needs a partv2 cause it seems like a lot
I think a Captain Marvel movie is the perfect place to introduce the MCU’s Rogue, and if The Marvels we’re coming out after Deadpool 3, I can imagine that’s where they’d have introduced her
i agree
Her joining the brotherhood of mutants and being adopted by Mystique is something I wanted to see ever since I was a kid reading X-Men comics
Get over Captain Nobody.
Ikr! Captain Marvel is perfect
@@thepubknight6144 same
I had an idea…
What if you spun a wheel and got random characters from DC and Marvel alike (maybe even other companies) and created a cinematic universe from them. It would be cool to see if you get a big name like Spider-Man, Batman, Superman or the Fantastic Four, or if you don’t and you have to build from the ground up.
yes that would be so cool!
marvel please hire this man
I love the story for Spider-Man: Junior Year. Combining Venom and Kraven is a good idea and I like how you leave the door open for Eddie to appear because he is one of the best Marvel characters and characters in general. Retconning Michelle to be Mary Jane and dying her hair makes a lot of sense. Kravens Last Hunt is one of the best Spider-Man stories of all time so I think it’s high time it gets adapted even if they have to make a few changes to fit the Tom Holland version of Spider-Man. Including Uncle Ben is something the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies have been lacking. He’s such an essential part of Spider-Man and we don’t even know if he ever existed in the MCU.
Black Lion is back cooking with another banger video hell yeah 🔥
Wow… this is wild! Really well written and it’s sad that we won’t get this version of the MCU with retcons to previous movies and cool new movies that we’ll never see. The budget for these movies would be insane but hopefully the ones that get will turn out kind of similar to this to make up for what we have right now.
Great series! Thank you
This is genuinely excellently written, asides for how a few characters were totally sidelined
I’d absolutely love to see how you’d handle a 3rd saga!
My only piece of feedback is that I feel like some heroes should have died; and that kang really got sidelined at the end
It all felt very comic booky, especially secret wars and Spider-Man 5. Good work!
Me too plus maybe you can make your own third saga maybe something to do with galacticus and have miles morales X men AND do spider man attack of the sinister six
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The only thing I would’ve done is remove What If Season 2. That show is arguably bad, and I’m already working on a rewrite on Season 1, but if it were up to me, I would’ve removed the What If series from the MCU, and just replaced the first season with an adaptation of Marvels by Alex Ross, and then the 2nd Season could’ve probably been replaced by Luis spin off or something.
How would you rewrite the rumored phase 7 with Eternity wars
This is so amazing🔥
Ngl I genuinely enjoyed this series so much
You gotta make another series like 5is with hypothetical other sagas 🤝
I have to ask , will there be a phase 7 continuation of this ?
28:21 you’ve no idea how happy I got when you said this because I’ve been waiting since before 2016!
This is incredible
Bro this one was amazing!!!!. Especially the secret wars movie❤
waited for that one 🥶🥶🥶
Truth be told, I'd prefer Gwen being the endgame love interest for Peter, It'd be a nice switch-up from the classic Spider-man formula
That'd make for an actual plot-twist: Not making her die.
I thought her death is sort of a canon event but yes, maybe not in this universe
The hell no Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 4 without James Gunn
Definitely an amazing idea, shame since you posted it on CZcams well probably never get it.
Defo is an amazing structure and story, just need some polish and it could be epic
Absolutely masterful. I have a video idea though. You should do more ranking videos like Marvel Movies and TV shows or Arrowverse rankings now that it's over
I'm glad that you didn't killed off Dr. Doom. That guy could make a bigger role in the Mutant Saga.
NGL you kinda ate with these pitches
You having doom end with a scene from kang dynasty reminds me of old school marvel. Way to go
nice vid so far
Awesome!!! Are you gonna your own idea for Phases 7, 8 and 9 called The Timeless Saga, next?
Nice video
Loved this! Can you do another saga, featuring the x-men? Like the mutant saga! Of course with the other mcu hero’s left like all the avengers + Spider-Man?
Personally I’d do 51 movie and 21 TV Shows
I believe it will end in the same manner as the comic version, with a soft reboot. Completely overhauled timeline. Some characters, alive and dead, recast, while some stay around the same. Fresh slate for future stories.
I loved it but I also think there is no need for MCU's MJ to be actually named Marry Jane Watson and have red hair. These features of MJ were changed for the MCU so that people would view her in a different light than the original MJ from Tobey films, and I think they should keep it that way.
Great video tho!
I want to hear your idea for Spider-Man 6 now too
They should end Multiverse Saga real soon because they are dragging the hell out of it
Projects id like to see for this universes phase 7-9
The uncany x men( retroactive phase 1 movie set in 2011 featuring the og 5 fighting the sentinals/ magneto)
The giant size xmen( retroactive phase 2 movie set in 2013. Mr sinister as villan. Introduces wolverine storm colossus nightcrawler and banshee)
Every project you pitched in your mcu 20 year spiderman saga video
Captain American secret empire( mcu sam is transported to a universe whe he worked to hydra)
Planet hulk( After escaping prison the og mcu hulk personality from avengers-thor ragnorock returns to sakara fights the red king and meets his son scar who unknowingly he had during the 2 years in-between age of ultron and ragnorock)
Gardians of the galaxy anialation ( adaptation of the first comic Gardians story now as the final mcu gardians story)
Thats all i got
Nice ideas
Finally!!!!!
Can we download the posters? I would love these as a background
DO THE REST DO IT DO IT DO IT YOU GOT THIS DO IT
Please Make a third saga!
I'm just about to watch this.
I really love it when CZcamsrs do their own pitches for movies - we should really see more of this content.
Transformers in particular as well.
You should do a video on how you think the dcu will be structured after gods and monsters
What about phase 7, 8, and 9. I wanna know how you would do phases 7, 8, and 9.
Something I’d like to say about Secret Wars (not exactly something I’d change, at least not about the movie itself, just an idea I think could be nice) is that I like the idea of it releasing in 2028 instead of 2027 to have the finale of the MCU’s second saga release the same year as the 20th anniversary of Iron Man 1 and the MCU as a whole, it would probably mean some projects would have to get pushed back a bit, especially if Secret Wars would even be released in May of 2028 and I guess The Marvels: Rogue Mutants could release in July or August and Spider-Man: Junior Year/Kraven’s Last Hunt in November or December
I love your Multiverse Saga, but I have just one nitpick: where’s Nick Fury in all of this? I don’t think you mentioned him in any of your projects in all 4 videos, so where would he be in the saga?
He appears in a relatively large role in Secret Invasion which I mentioned in the first video. He then appears in the Marvels in the same sized role he'll have in the real movie. From there he's mostly absent working at SABER, cameoing in Secret Wars.
The doom show sounds fucking fantastic
yes
Made me feel like this guy should be hired by Marvel
it would be cool to have some movies/shows based in battle world
Ngl that doom series sounds cold as hell
I really appreciated all of the work you put into this series, it was nice to see a different perspective on what this saga could have been. I will say though, this feels like it’s trying way too hard to be a replica of the comics and it just has way too many characters. I think the thing that made the MCU so special was the simplicity of it all. Obviously it took plenty of inspiration from the comics, but it was their own thing. The reason we were able to fall in love with characters was because there wasn’t a crap ton of them. That is what’s happening in real life with the MCU, and through your series, too much characters. I just don’t believe characters like Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Deadpool, etc belong in the MCU. I also know everyone wants the X-Men, which I’m not totally against, but at the same time it just doesn’t feel right. Maybe if it was in the format like the Guardians where they start with 5 and add one character to the group, I think that would be fine. To try to summarize all of this, I think there should only be 2-3 shows per saga, and only 6 movies. We don’t need to make this comics, introduce the new characters or characters taking on new roles that are going to be apart of the Avengers like Sam Wilson Captain America, Shuri as Black Panther, Shang-Chi, the Fantastic Four, etc. Add them to the group we already have (Spider-Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man, The Wasp, War Machine, etc) and build the Saga off of that. Not to mention, end it after this Saga. Outside of finishing trilogies like the Guardians, Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Ant-Man, I wish it ended in the last Saga. They need to hang it up when the time is right, before they ruin what we all love, which unfortunately is already happening.
Hey, how would Secret Wars and Junior Year be paced? Like how long are they on the original battle world? And how long does Peter have the black suit?
Can u plsssss continue to one more saga?
You should do a non Mcu structure vid
Part 4 huh?
Aint no way doom jus gave power to thor adam warlock nova sentry and captain marvel💀
It’d make more sense if they found a way to take some of doom’s power
I would love to see “the one above all”
You should do the next saga
By the way, my explanation for the Fantastic Four in the MCU in 60s would be that they are a government superhero team that’s why nobody knows of them
I genuinly LOVED this series however i have one thing that really bugs me and it's wanda, she is the most popular Female MCU character and i think having in two projects in phase four, two eps in phase 5, then bring her in secret wars just to defeat doom and die is a very bad choice imo. Especially when it's right before we start exploring the Mutants which is where most of Wanda's important plots are
I literally felt like I was watching canon mcu please do Phases 7-9
Do Phase 7-9 of Marvel next
Bro please do phase 7 I need to hear your ideas for future X-men, mutant and Fantastic 4 movies, your an amazing writer
Or at least make videos on the X-men saga and fantastic 4 saga like you did with Spiderman
How to I find the PNGs used?
I think this video was good but I don’t like how he did hulk, and I think he could do Spider-Man 5 better. Miles should already be Spider-Man and have a big role alongside Peter, and not a fan of Kraven being venom, but he should be menacing.
You did a very good job but it really felt like you killed off a lot of characters with no reason. Scott, Iron Lad, Katie etc. It felt like kids playing with their action figures. Other than that great job but I think you need to work killing off characters
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I love your voice cliche CZcamsr voice
How would you rewrite Marvel's what if.
Marvel should hire you
Pls do the next saga
Based
Ты крутой и видео твои крутые я подпишусь:)
continue it
Black Cat should join the Marvel Cinematic Universe, or Marvel Comics Sonyverse Movies for Spider-Man's Character's!!
I think instead of mj remembering Peter Ned should because you already set up Gwen Stacey.
So here’s my predictions for the entire MCU Series release following January 2024, X-Men: 97 March 2024, Daredevil: Born again May 2024, and that’s about it I don’t know about how they will release wonder man or Ironheart
I hope in mcu Spider-Man 6 in this universe you have Norman Osborn be the leader of the sinister six
Josh Hartnet can still be Doom, right?
Sure
Video idea structure of the Sony spiderman universe
I wonder if Miles Morales fron the Spiderverse movies will be in Secret Wars...
Marvel Zombies will be rated TV-MA
Me encantaría un video tuyo de como deberia haber sido el dcu comenzando con man of steel
Wish man thing had a big role
To be honest, Avengers, Captain Marvel and Spider-Man scenario sounds bad
for you
Ikr?
@@Tobik44What's this for? If you liked it, then everyone shouldn't like it
Agreed the "Captain Marvel is the same level as in comics" statement shows this guy really has 0 knowledge on Carol as comic Carol was implied to be able to destroy the universe
My Phase 6 Part 2
Loki Season 3 (TV Show)
Thunderbolts II: Squadron Supreme (Movie)
Werewolf by Night (Movie)
Amazing Spider-Man / Spider-Man (2002) Part 1: Worlds Collide (Movie)
The Legendary Star-Lord (TV Show)
Blade (Movie)
Shang-Chi and the Legion of the Unliving (Movie)
Amazing Spider-Man / Spider-Man (2002) Part 2: Web Wars (Movie)
Midnight Sons (TV Show)
Avengers: The Kang Dynasty (Movie)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Planet-X (Movie)
Inhumans (Movie)
What If…? Season 2 (TV Show)
Avengers: Secret Wars (Movie)
Spider-Man: Senior Year (Movie)
9th also i just found out about this series last night lol
It’s hard to accept both doom has never been mentioned all this time, and also galactus appeared in the 60s and nobody mentioned it.
Or Jean Grey could be a guardian
I would kill Sylvain instead of Loki just because he’s already been killed
The X-Men 97 Show is actually a revival of the X-Men Animated Series from the 90s. That show’s connected to the Marvel Animated Universe, where shows like the Spider-Man Animated Series, and the Hulk Animated Series originated from.
Having the X-Men in What If Season 2 would make no sense, as that show was never part of the MCU at all. So you should’ve removed it from what you would’ve done for the 2nd season of What If.
And this is coming from a guy who doesn’t think the What If series was good.
7:59 bruh. you called the show Doom and it has the protagonist fighting hordes of demons. That's literally the plot of the game DOOM
In Secret Wars, Thor will have a part. He will use Stormbreaker to save the multiverse, the Ax will create energy that will create a new timeline, absorb the rest, it will be a reset, and Thor may die in the process. As you can see, color the timelines and the ax energy are identical.
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