What a 20 Year Long MCU Spider-Man Saga Could Look Like

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • Over the course of the last month before writing this video, I made a four part series of videos where I restructure the Multiverse saga both for what we’ve already seen but also all the way up to it’s conclusion. In two of these videos, while I did take some already existing properties and change them up, I also had to come up with completely new movies or give substance to movies that have only been announced. Aside from the two Avengers movies, It was the Spider-Man movies where I put in the most time and effort. To expand on that, I wanted to make a dedicated video discussing what the future of the MCU Spider-Man could look like if the franchise lasted 20 years!
    -- Timestamps --
    00:00 - Intro
    2:12 - Devil's Reign
    5:39 - Kang Dynasty & Secret Wars
    7:35 - Kraven's Last Hunt
    11:10 - Future Foundation
    12:27 - Sinister Six
    16:30 - Silk
    18:01 - Superior Spider-Man
    22:56 - Spectacular Spider-Man
    25:31 - Agent Venom
    25:54 - Avengers/X-Men
    26:42 - Ultimate Spider-Man
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Komentáře • 209

  • @MarioSonicBee
    @MarioSonicBee Před 7 měsíci +294

    Personally I think MCU Spider-Man would be 10x better if Oscorp and Norman were in the MCU from the beginning. I feel like out of the three live action Spideys, the MCU has the most potential to play with that storyline

    • @ibz_pk7931
      @ibz_pk7931 Před 7 měsíci +10

      i guess he should of been but since tony stark wasn’t his mentor and he was a avenger idk if that would work well

    • @frankorious534
      @frankorious534 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Keep in mind Feige doesn't like to repeat storylines and it would have been boring to have them for the third time in a row.

    • @jemmellpyron2527
      @jemmellpyron2527 Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​@@frankorious534The crazy part is by bringing them into the MCU, they WOULD be different, Sony can only handle Spider-Man related characters, Marvel Studios could have them deal with the greater MCU as a plus.

    • @aarongarcia5590
      @aarongarcia5590 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@frankorious534well unfortunately feige can’t avoid comic history forever, these stories will be told & retold till the end of time.

    • @pupulauls
      @pupulauls Před 6 měsíci +3

      Fun fact: They were originally planning to put Oscorp tower from the Amazing Spider Man into the skyline of Avengers 2012, but by the time Sony agreed, the visual effects were already too close to completion

  • @zephaniahharrison5171
    @zephaniahharrison5171 Před 7 měsíci +60

    if they even do a 10+ year saga i'll be satisfied with that tbh. 20 years would be a dream come true.

  • @KirboYT
    @KirboYT Před 7 měsíci +124

    I don't think the Spiderverse story would make much sense, especially AFTER the multiverse saga ends, but I do like the idea of adapting the Superior Spider Man story in the MCU, as well as the clone saga

    • @liamlennon3316
      @liamlennon3316 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Agree. Makes little sense to do spiderverse after thr multiverse saga and after no way home basically being a mini spiderverse event

    • @Seablobel8
      @Seablobel8 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah that and miles being “spin.” Is what I strongly disagreed with. The multiverse would’ve been done to death at that point and we already had no way home and the spider verse series which connects to the MCU a bit. And with miles I feel like they should just call him Spider-Man since it’s not like two characters haven’t shared the same title in the MCU before.

    • @SilkySilver12
      @SilkySilver12 Před měsícem

      I think we’ve got enough Spider-Verse movies. Spider-Man has so much potential for movies we don’t need to see the same story rehashed. I’ve never liked the Spider-Verse as a concept.

  • @fewntug3760
    @fewntug3760 Před 6 měsíci +30

    You lost me at Spidey killing Fisk lol

  • @bmgstudios4210
    @bmgstudios4210 Před 6 měsíci +7

    This video is amazing. Though I think realistically, since like you said, Tom Holland probably won't want to stick to the role for that long, I think Peter would die (no superior Spider-Man) in his sixth movie.
    though here's what i would change or add in devil's reign, kang dynasty, secret wars, and kraven's last hunt:
    Devil's Reign:
    -with the movie releasing and taking place four years after No Way Home, it would be acknowledged that Peter, taking advantage of his lack of a social life, had taken two years off from his education to be Spider-Man full time while also taking pictures to make a living.
    -While Spider-Man and Black Cat's relationship will be initially be lust-based rather than romance-based, they will grow to genuinely like each other over the coarse of the movie, even revealing their identities to each other as a form of trust, with a twist that they are classmates. however, negative tension will rise between them near the end as Peter looks through Felicia's family photos and realizes that (like in Spectacular Spider-Man) her father was the man who killed Uncle Ben, and that conflict will continue into Kang Dynasty.
    -throughout the movie, the symbiote grows larger and follows Peter back to his apartment. the symbiote would envelope him in the final scene before the credits and the mid-credit scene is where the black suit would debut
    Kang Dynasty:
    -Reunites with Toby and Andrew, and meets Venom for the first time, though tension grows between him and those three for different reasons:
    Venom: he's wearing a piece of him
    Toby: he tries to warn Peter 1 about the dangers of wearing the black suit based off his own experience in Spider-Man 3
    Andrew: he's become exactly like him when Gwen Died, despite him saying he doesn't want that to happen to him.
    Secret Wars:
    -it's here where the symbiote would start affecting his behavior
    -the earth of Sony's Spider-Man universe is destroyed but is merged with the MCU (as its rumoured to do so)
    -adding to that, Venom, Morbius, Kraven, and Madame Web, and their supporting cast now exist in the MCU's continuity (like the X-men)
    Kraven's last hunt:
    -Eddie Brock would not be a new character and instead would be Tom Hardy's version (who in the old MCU timeline never became Venom, and has a history with the Parker family), who would aid Peter and the Fantastic Four against the Venomised Kraven. Reed Richards purifies the separated symbiote, reducing back to a small piece, and when it re-attaches to Eddie, it finally adds the white spider logo to his Venom design thanks to its time being bonded to Spider-Man.

  • @ddl3718
    @ddl3718 Před 7 měsíci +25

    Peter beating Fisk to death would be the stupidest thing ever. Literally the LAST MOVIE had that exact same problem and solution. Tom learned from Toby

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +9

      Right so this trilogy is all about breaking him down before building him back up. I would add, like I did in another comment, that Peter killing Fisk was more so him simply beating on him for a bit too long and overestimating his strength.

  • @gwyn3122
    @gwyn3122 Před 7 měsíci +47

    To be honest, your scripts are interesting, but too overloaded, which is why the films will run for at least three hours or some storylines will not be properly disclosed

    • @chichou7
      @chichou7 Před 7 měsíci +6

      yeahh, everything’s all over the place trying to fit in as much characters as possible.

    • @gwyn3122
      @gwyn3122 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @chichou7 As if everything can only be in one movie and it can't be shown in other projects

  • @8-bitnorman263
    @8-bitnorman263 Před 6 měsíci +10

    The problem is that a lot of actors don’t want too stick it out that long to create something like that. I understand on some level wanting to expand your career and do different roles, it also seems that their contracts preclude them from having a lot of freedom when it comes too choosing other roles. The sad part is that realistically I think Tom is about done in the MCU, I fully believe that we will get one more trilogy and maybe even a trilogy of avengers/team up movies that feature him but I’m sure after that his spider-man will be killed/retired. Interestingly enough I would be excited to see miles in the MCU especially because we already have great casting for Uncle Aaron. Unfortunately Sony has announced that they are working on a Miles Morales live action movie that will take place in the SSU, which like, why? They already produce the spider-verse films, let miles into the MCU!

  • @westcoastavenger
    @westcoastavenger Před 5 měsíci +3

    Crushed it with this man. Good work. There are a few tweaks I’d make but I love most of this.
    Symbiote in Secret Wars part 1 has to happen. Reed helping also needs to happen. Really want kravens last hunt.
    We need camera’s rolling for what I’m calling ‪Spectacular Spider-Man‬ by spring 2024

  • @jackginney6795
    @jackginney6795 Před 6 měsíci +7

    This is absolutely perfect, you need to make vids like this for the X-men, Fantastic 4, Avengers, Wolverine, Hulk, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc.

  • @928studiosinc06
    @928studiosinc06 Před 7 měsíci +52

    I'm a HUGE fan of what you're doing. Your Multiverse Saga and what you're doing with Spider-Man is BILLIONS OF LIGHTYEARS ahead of whatever the hell Marvel is doing. I am a person that is pro "Endgame was the true end to the MCU", but if it were to continue, this is how I would have it! Thank you for being awesome. Please do this for DC as well!

    • @jaegerwhatifs4679
      @jaegerwhatifs4679 Před 7 měsíci +9

      So you want the MCU to just stop? Even if the recent stuff they put on was bad, they can still recover from it by just moving forward and making the worst parts less relevant.

    • @trevturp6891
      @trevturp6891 Před 7 měsíci

      However there are some flaws with his Multiverse Saga, but it is still way better than what Kevin Fuck is doing with The Multiverse Saga.

    • @trevturp6891
      @trevturp6891 Před 7 měsíci

      Far From Home was the true end to The MCU, not Endgame.

    • @toraregisfurry
      @toraregisfurry Před 5 měsíci

      enough with the multiverse, all the new marvel and dc movies have the multiverse concept in it. i am so fucking tired of the multiverse, marvel needs to stop

    • @JB_GOD_
      @JB_GOD_ Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@toraregisfurryBro the multiverse is the reason we have no way home it is the reason Deadpool will be in the MCU yes this saga has some flaws but it does have equally good bangers like gotg 3 No Way Home and LOKI

  • @ahmadstewasamlrt2202
    @ahmadstewasamlrt2202 Před 7 měsíci +13

    How would you rewrite Spider-Man Sony Cinema universe

  • @jaegerwhatifs4679
    @jaegerwhatifs4679 Před 7 měsíci +27

    Love the Superior Spider-Man idea. That's such a good and unique storyline which would separate this version of the character in a really brilliant way.

  • @diegoprodriguez
    @diegoprodriguez Před 7 měsíci +17

    If there is a Molecule Man, or whatever the MCU equivalent will be, Peter should bring him a burger and then the character thanks him by allowing people to remember him.

    • @dimitrescu182
      @dimitrescu182 Před 7 měsíci

      I have a feeling the MCU equivalent will be Scarlet Witch

  • @tharaanthambyayah1772
    @tharaanthambyayah1772 Před 7 měsíci +12

    I would be interested to see your version of the MCU Mutant Saga.

  • @Step43099
    @Step43099 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I also liked the idea of the movie starting with a brief creation of Rhino cutting to him rampaging through New York with Spidey trying his hardest to stop him as the first big spectacle of the movie. Then after finally taking him down and putting him away. Peters trying to attend college, Felicia and Gwen maybe Harry if they wanna do that could be there, because of all the damage rhino cause this spurs Jonah to fund his own superhero which turns out to be Scorpion, maybe Pete meets Black Cat for the first Time and they have a chase like usually and the thread that connects all the villains would be someone like Tombstone trying to control parts of the city without having anything tied to him, which can lead to other movies where Tombstone and Kingpin (maybe Hammerhead and the Maggia family as well) get into a gang war where Peter, Matt, Echo and others work together to deal with it before it explodes. Just thoughts though

  • @isabaig6665
    @isabaig6665 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Would you try to make it so that Peter gets his own green goblin that kills his Gwen. This would connect to across the spiderverse in terms of it being cannon event. Also showing him spare goblin will highlight how much more human he as become after the college trilogy.

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +18

      Green Goblin killing Gwen has been done on screen already, it's be too predictable and derivative to do it again. From my perspective, the Canon event is Goblin killing someone close to Spidey, not necessarily Gwen. So, Aunt May's death could be considered the MCU version of that canon event.

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Going off Spider-Verse terms, Tom Holland actually BROKE his canon event with the help of Andrew.

    • @zombiefiedjem5113
      @zombiefiedjem5113 Před 7 měsíci +6

      I think it will be revealed that canon events don’t need to happen in Beyond the Spiderverse, it will be something else causing the universal incursions. With this in mind, killing off Gwen doesn’t need to happen.

    • @jaegerwhatifs4679
      @jaegerwhatifs4679 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@ccelite3782 Yeah, I am willing to bet that if there is a cameo from Andrew or Tom, they would be told they are at fault for ruining their canon event, but stopped their earth from collapsing anyways.

  • @theserpent8667
    @theserpent8667 Před 7 měsíci +14

    This is simply impeccable. I really like how this all fits together. Might I ask as to whether Rhino could appear at some point, like as an opening fight scene in one of these films?

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +10

      Yes that can happen. Make it the official opening to Spider-Man: Devil's Reign. Rhino's origin is tied to Scorpion and Prowler as he got his suit from and works for Kingpin.

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheBlackLion001 Yes! That works really well!

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheBlackLion001 Also I'm strangely very pleased that Spidercide is a secondary villain of the clone saga. I'm not sure why, but I think he's neat.

  • @commanderspyder5432
    @commanderspyder5432 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I love a lot of these ideas, but I disagree with a couple of them;
    - Peter killing someone is not only out of character but would regress his character development after he didn't kill Norman at the end of NWH. You could instead have Peter hold himself back just before finishing Kingpin off, showing that despite his issues, he has gained that control after the events of the last film.
    - Having Kraven AND Venom in one movie feels like a waste of both characters IMO; I think having the symbiote bond to Mac Gargan at the end of the fifth movie is a better choice, since he'd want revenge after his defeat as Scorpion and there's more source material to adapt that way, including Venom (Flash Thompson or Gargan) possibly joining the Thunderbolts in the MCU (I'd make him a member of the Sinister Six in the 6th movie first).

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Regressing his character before bringing him back up by the end of the trilogy is the entire point, it's the darkness he needs to contend with before regaining his light. I wouldn't even call it a full regression either, in NWH it seemed like he had every intention of killing Osborn but was stopped by Tobey Peter. I would add that Peter didn't have the intention of killing Fisk but overestimated how strong or resilient he was and simply beat on him for a bit too long.
      As for wasting Kraven, I put him in the Sinister Six, giving him an immediate second appearance where he's able to act more like Kraven from the comics, without the symbiote. As for wasting Venom, I think Marvel has gone past the point of the Eddie Brock version of Venom being a villain at all. leaving the possibility of Venom as the main villain as an empty template to fill in which they've done with the likes of Harry Osborn, Scorpion, Kraven etc. I personally really liked what they did in Spider-Man: Life Story and decided to partially adapt that. Scorpion could've worked as well but then there wouldn't have been a movie where Kraven is the main villain and i definitely think Kraven deserves higher main villain priority over Scorpion.

    • @SilkySilver12
      @SilkySilver12 Před měsícem

      @@TheBlackLion001Eddie is one of my favourite characters ever. He’s what built Venom up. It’s sad to see such a compelling character discarded and forgotten.

  • @Cooper_118
    @Cooper_118 Před 7 měsíci +4

    This man did not name Miles Morales SPIN. He took the name from the preschool show Spidey and his amazing friends.

  • @wheattoast1971
    @wheattoast1971 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think Jason Macendale should be a replacement for Doc Ock. While I love Alfred Molina, it’s going to be hard to make a Doc Ock that compares to Raimi’s and Insomniac’s takes. Hobgoblin was a leader of the Sinister Six in the comics, who could later be succeeded as leader by Aaron Davis. But I didn’t expect you to do the Superior Spider-Man so that’s pretty cool! I also liked the incorporation of Ultimate Goblin!
    I just like Demogoblin and we need a Hobgoblin saga before that.

  • @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019
    @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019 Před 7 měsíci

    I would absolutely love this

  • @stevejames7930
    @stevejames7930 Před 6 měsíci

    I love your Devil’s Reign idea

  • @profviral
    @profviral Před 5 měsíci

    What I noticed in a lot of prewrites for Spider-Man is that they never involve Mysterio. The one that got shot by the drone in Far from Home was an illusion and Peter only asked Edith if he was real, not if he was dead. If Beck was faking his death by himself (for some reason Beck collapsed after Peter took Edith back) it'd make that smirk at the end of his partings words of "people, they need to believe. And nowadays, they'll believe anything" more amusement about Peter was taken in, especially after Peter claimed he "can't trick me anymore"
    If he actually died his body would've been discovered without the Mysterio armor. Likely his crew could've spread the false info that Mysterio's corpse returned to his home dimension upon his death to explain why it was missing.

  • @DaRealGrossBurger5
    @DaRealGrossBurger5 Před 7 měsíci

    Very good and understandable! I see 80k for you!

  • @blackjohn9240
    @blackjohn9240 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video. Just found your channel. Subscribed.

  • @Kompatainment
    @Kompatainment Před 7 měsíci +10

    I like it. You have some really great ideas! I hope we actually get nine Spider-Man movies with Tom Holland. This franchise has so much potential.

  • @ImHarrybo
    @ImHarrybo Před 7 měsíci

    Great ideas

  • @captainbeastwinger4940
    @captainbeastwinger4940 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Here's what my spider-man saga would like
    -Spider-man freshman year 2017 origin movie replacing tasm with shocker and vulture would be main villains his outfits would be the ultimate spider-man wrestling outfit and the mcu homade suit at the end of the movie before the final swing he makes the classic ditko suit
    Gwen and Harry would be childhood friends like in spectacular and liz allen would be the main love interest for the first trilogy peter and flash going from rivals to friends would also be a big focus of the trilogy
    Captain stacy becomes peter's ally at the end of the movie
    The end credit scene would be nick fury trying to recruit him for the avengers and telling him he's an old friend of his parents
    - team up movies cap and tony would both mentor him but it would mainly be in the avengers movies not the solo movies and his role in civil war would be much
    -mcu spider-man 2 201 vulture would be the main villain movie would start out with peter stopping random crimes a few being villains before they're villains sandman rhino and scorpion
    The main villain of this one would be mysterio
    -Mcu spider-man 3 2021 scorpion and kraven would be the villains of this one captain stacy would die and ask peter to look after his little girl liz and peter break up Gwen is dating harry so he has no date for prom but then aunt may introduces him to mj the movie would end with peter and Harry moving into a college dorm room and meeting randy Robertson
    Mcu spider-man 4 2023 would be based on spider-man no more
    Organized crime would be a bug focus in this trilogy with kingpin hammerhead and tombstone would be a big focus in this trilogy
    Dr connors would be his college professor
    Kingpin puts a bounty on spider-man's head and notman creates electro sandman and rhino to go after him but doctor octopus would be the main villain
    Peter reunites with a childhood friend at college eddie brock constantly late to his big group hangouts with harry Gwen mj flash and eddie and due to the stress of everything going on he eventually quits he returns gwen finds out he's spider-man and they start dating and harry starts dating mj
    -mcu spider-man 5 2025 lizard would be the main villain tasm really failed to adapt his family life and peter reuniting them so that'd definitely be something they should do
    The post credit scene would be norman finally becoming the goblin
    -mcu spider-man 6 2027 this would be the big one the sinister six doctor octopus vulture mysterio sandman electro and kraven who all have upgraded suits and have green goblin as the mastermind behind it all peter gets his ass beat but he beats them but then goblin reveals himself they fight and the tragic death of Gwen stacy happens peter beats the shit of Norman before he of course impales himself
    This trilogy ends with peter moving into a shitty apartment alone
    -Mcu spider-man 7 2029 peter is depressed harry has become a drug addict his friendship with peter is strained mj also breaks up with him but he starts dating liz allen
    The symbiote attaches to peter at first it just looks like a black and white version of the normal suit but then it evolves into the classic symbiote suit all of peter's anger and frustrations after Gwen's death explode and black cat becomes a love interest a further temptation to the Darkside
    He lashes out at harry and eddie permanently pushing them away
    He also lashes out at mj but she closes the door and stays with him
    -mcu spider-man 8 2031 the symbiote has really affected peter he looks like a drug addict sunken tired eyes pale with a stubble
    Black cat breaks up with him because he's a brutal jerk
    Mj reveals she knows he's spider-man peter gets rid of the black suit eddie becomes venom peter defeats him and he starts dating mj
    The post credit scenes would be eddie meeting his new cellmate cletus Cassidy setting up a venom spinoff and the second one would be be harry becoming the new goblin
    -spider-man 9 2033 would obviously be the new goblin story harry blows up peter's apartment takes mj to the bridge where Gwen dies but peter saves her
    Of course eventually harry redeems himself saving mj peter and his son
    This trilogy ends with peter and mj moving in a decent appartement together
    -Mcu spider-man 10 2035 i don't really know who the villains of this trilogy would be but mr negative is one of them and tombstone is now in charge of the criminal underworld one of them mj and peter get married at the the end of the movie and peter becomes a teacher
    -mcu spider-man 11 2037 would really focus on his married life and him helping out students
    -mcu spider-man 12 2039 notman gets ressurected as a giant monster aunt may dies in this one peter and mj move into her house in queens
    Peter meets a 10 year old new student named miles moeales just entering middle school
    -spider-man miles morales trilogy 2041-2045 peter is 38 now miles is 12 gets spider powers peters immediately figures it out by the way he's acting peter becomes his mentor and him and mj are expecting mayday parker hat'd be a big focus off this trilogy
    At the end of the trilogy peter retires from being spider-man mayday is 5 years old peter is 43 and now him and mj are expecting another kid benji Parker
    Miles would get his own saga
    Then eventually I'd do movies on mayday with miles becoming the mentor
    And a spider-man 2099 franchise

  • @thecomicdirector8417
    @thecomicdirector8417 Před 7 měsíci

    How do u do it? How do u always nail these type of vids?

  • @montoyoutube
    @montoyoutube Před 6 měsíci +1

    yeahh, dont be expecting a call from marvel anytime soon-

  • @baddabing4494
    @baddabing4494 Před 5 měsíci

    They NEED to let Peter have the symbiote for a decent chunk of time, not for just a plot point, but for a multi-film character arch.
    In one film, punish his greatest personal challenges to beat him down to his lowest point, maybe even adapt Spider-Man No More a tiny bit, THEN give him the symbiote as an out. Suddenly he has his confidence back and even more, and make him addicted to the feeling of that strength. Throw him through a normal plot where the symbiote is mostly inconsequential, then towards the end (maybe in the climax) he acts far more aggressively, violently, etc., then he realizes that not only is the suit alive and controlling his body while he's asleep, but it's also changing him into a monstrous version of himself and what he stands for. He rids himself of it in the finale, and returns to those he may have pushed away. Meanwhile, Brock, someone he discredited while having the suit, finds himself at his wits end and combines with the symbiote.
    Like, adapt the best parts of the symbiote storyline WHILE actually giving spider-man time to use the symbiote past the point of no return where he HAS to rid himself of it and reconcile with those he's hurt.
    I do think, though, that retconning anything in the previous films for Peter would undercut their impact. I think the simplest way forward would just be to adapt the Spider-man of the Romita Sr. era where he goes to college, meets Harry, Gwen, new villains, etc.

  • @ourasdlife3721
    @ourasdlife3721 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Spiderman is my favorite marvel character and superhero.

  • @smamiestephen4096
    @smamiestephen4096 Před 7 měsíci +3

    how would you handle a Spider-Man cinematic universe with only Spider-Man/new york characters (daredevil luke cage Jessica Jones punisher and iron fist)

  • @stephanielriver.7953
    @stephanielriver.7953 Před 6 měsíci

    If they pull this off it will be remembered for all of history

  • @thejedikid7624
    @thejedikid7624 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Maybe you should do a video on how you would structure the mutant saga (just a thought I had)

  • @k4d0s
    @k4d0s Před 6 měsíci +1

    Personally, it would make more sense for Mac Gargan to become Venom in the MCU as we were already shown that he despises spider-man and the fact he already appeared as Venom in the comics(Although I pray that this is what they go with in the actual movies as there's no any other good candidates for venom and i doubt they'd introduce another eddie brock). I also had a great scene in my head where Young Avengers try to beat some sense into Spidey as he wears the black suit but instead he beats the hell out of them and then resists the affection of the symbiote on his own. Well, either way, great video!

  • @olivier344
    @olivier344 Před 2 měsíci

    My idea for Spider-Man 6: Do not use Doc Ock.
    The Sinister Six can have a new leader and the plot can be pretty much the same as you suggested. The Mad scientist role could be given to the Jackal. All these spider bites inflected on himself could turn him into the creature that e know from the comics.

  • @mdh16off59
    @mdh16off59 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Finn wittrock deserve to be eddie brock venom or ludwig too can do great venom and eddie of the mcu

    • @theirongiants
      @theirongiants Před 7 měsíci +1

      Ludwig is a twitch streamer.

    • @mdh16off59
      @mdh16off59 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@theirongiants i talk about alexender ludwig bro he can do great brock too

  • @bremilly3490
    @bremilly3490 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just feel like the MCU blocked themselves from doing the Doc Oc story. One of the main tragedies about Peter and Otto's relationship is that they were so close, and that Peter did not save him in time. Knowing Oc's story and how to save him theres no way Spider-man would have that happen again. I do think it is a possibility for him to befriend Harry, and have him become the Green Goblin. Maybe he doesn't know harry's last name until later, and because he is still grieving May he continuously pushes harry away or somehow accidentally causes him to become Green Goblin instead of his father.

  • @devonjeffers5898
    @devonjeffers5898 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Magnificent, this is most definitive take on a Spider-Man film series I've ever seen. Admittedly continuing past the Mutant Saga with a movie involving Knull as the main antagonist and a Spider-Geddon adaption is a bit far, but not entirely unwelcome since I would like to see how those would go.

    • @sbee75
      @sbee75 Před 6 měsíci

      Nul or Knull ?

    • @devonjeffers5898
      @devonjeffers5898 Před 6 měsíci

      @@sbee75 It was Knull. My bad.

    • @sbee75
      @sbee75 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@devonjeffers5898Okay

  • @Universe025
    @Universe025 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m praying they don’t mess up his character!

  • @PatrickBateman3116
    @PatrickBateman3116 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Could You Make a 20 year long saga for other heroes too? Please?

  • @laverniustucker8198
    @laverniustucker8198 Před 7 měsíci

    Can we download these posters? They're so cool!

  • @xaviertaylor8027
    @xaviertaylor8027 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Cool video

  • @__.stary.__7238
    @__.stary.__7238 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You had me up until introducing miles

  • @rotzie8834
    @rotzie8834 Před 7 měsíci

    I feel like your ideas to a great job of connecting the universe together because why wouldn’t other hero’s help out

  • @classicsonicthewild6051
    @classicsonicthewild6051 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Fun Fact: Matt Damon, Matt Smith, Andrew Scott And Colin Farrell Were All Considered For The Role Of Mysterio Before Jake Gyllenhaal Was Cast

  • @darkelmo2023
    @darkelmo2023 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I like the overall idea, but I'm not a fan of calling Miles "Spin" until the last Peter Parker movie. Miles is just as much Spiderman as Peter is, and I think a good argument can be made that if you're introducing 99 other Spidermen into the second to last movie, leaving Miles out by calling him "Spin" is an insult. Not to mention the fact that Peter would already be calling Miles Spiderman, because that is who Peter is. Anyone can be Spiderman, and Miles embodies that idea more than most. I get that this is supposed to be Miles "earning the mantel" but he already does so by embracing the Spiderman mantra, which you have the character doing over the course of like 5 years and 6 appearances; by the last spidey movie, he's been in several large event films and Spiderman adventures. No way he hasn't "earned" the title by the end of movie one.

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci

      I just don't think the MCU is as receptive to the idea of multiple characters sharing a name, the only examples I can think of are the two Hawkeyes but even then one of them is mostly retired and Thor but then one of them was swiftly killed off. I do however agree that Miles being called Spin for four movies is a bit much so I would add that a part of "The Superior Spider-Man" is Miles proving himself in Peter's absence and as a part of Otto's moral compass and from then on out being known as Spider-Man.

    • @LucasHopkins2006
      @LucasHopkins2006 Před 7 měsíci

      Still a better (temporary) name then Kid Arachnid

  • @themaskedraff
    @themaskedraff Před 7 měsíci

    For Devil's reign, having Kate Bishops Hawkeye makes it quite the bit better, for sure if Peter kills someone afterwords - Hawkeye having dealt with his Ronin jazz, the next avengers movie could have Clint Barton talk to Peter.

  • @bmo5852
    @bmo5852 Před 7 měsíci +10

    I'd prefer to leave out MJ and Ned, to really sell the effects and consequences of NWH. It'd be interesting to see a different love interest that isn't 1 of the Big 3, maybe one of the less well-known ones: Carlie Cooper, Sophia sanduval, etc

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +4

      I'll be honest, I've never liked any of Peter's love interests aside from MJ, Gwen, Black Cat and maybe Silk so I never really considered including them. I think they should leave MJ and Ned out of Spider-Man 4 and most of Spider-Man 5 but I don't think those particular effects of NWH should last forever.

    • @triggatrey2112
      @triggatrey2112 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I’d be interested in them introducing Black Cat , give him an ambiguous female character instead of an outright love interest.

    • @quentinjones6877
      @quentinjones6877 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@triggatrey2112yeah I'm ready to see black cat on the big screen

  • @Dannyboy31805
    @Dannyboy31805 Před 7 měsíci +1

    W video overall

  • @muffinfighter3680
    @muffinfighter3680 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bro "The Superior Spider-Man" is scary. Imagine losing your body for over one and a half years.

  • @lpduthoo6177
    @lpduthoo6177 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Lets go a New video!! Pin ?

  • @user-bt4lw6mx8h
    @user-bt4lw6mx8h Před měsícem

    Can you do a street level marvel timeline?

  • @rodrigomarcondes5857
    @rodrigomarcondes5857 Před 4 měsíci

    the idea of MCU spider-man going for 20 years is a horrible nightmare

  • @skylinegtr0414
    @skylinegtr0414 Před 7 měsíci

    Can you pre-write phase 7 ?

  • @mackenziebowen1457
    @mackenziebowen1457 Před 7 měsíci +1

    cast harry holland as Ben Riley in the last film

  • @ConsidertheCosmosx
    @ConsidertheCosmosx Před 5 měsíci

    This arc has steaks I love it

  • @GMTAE29
    @GMTAE29 Před 3 měsíci

    how fans from the internet have better ideas for superhero movies than the actual directors

  • @MrMkim
    @MrMkim Před 7 měsíci +1

    Let’s just jam 20 different comic lines together.

  • @theflashfan4556
    @theflashfan4556 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Something that I loved about Hawkeye was Kate, Bishop, and I want more of her
    Black Lion would the Peter Parker clone who could be Tom Holland Peter’s brother be played by Tom Holland’s real life younger brother?

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci

      No, they should cast an actual actor who just so happens to look a bit like Tom Holland, shouldn't be hard.

  • @JimmyMorgan-ye5lr
    @JimmyMorgan-ye5lr Před 7 měsíci

    You should do a spider-man universe similar to mcu phase

  • @Digital_MF_Editz
    @Digital_MF_Editz Před 7 měsíci +1

    Can you a video of what you would have done with the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield universe

  • @theirongiants
    @theirongiants Před 7 měsíci

    Dude do you make these posters? Do you make them in PhotoShop?

  • @acringekeresokiskodmon8026
    @acringekeresokiskodmon8026 Před 7 měsíci +7

    First movie and you already have Peter kill somebody. This is the second concept I see of a new Spider-Man trilogy where he kills somebody. Why is everyone so horny for Peter killing people? ESPECIALLY AFTER NO WAY HOME? Are we just gonna have him re-learn the same lesson over and over again, like the previous trilogy?

  • @thedailythwip
    @thedailythwip Před 7 měsíci +1

    Pretty sure the original Sony contract states Spider-Man isn't allowed to kill unless he's in the symbiote suit

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 Před 6 měsíci

      Seriously? That is so specific, why would they want that? That never happened in the comics

  • @LucasHopkins2006
    @LucasHopkins2006 Před 3 měsíci

    If this was real it’d be weird for me to think that after first seeing MCU Peter when I was 9 years old, by the time he’d be done, I’d be 29 and coming up on 30

  • @ddyert
    @ddyert Před 5 měsíci

    MCU Spiderman activated instant kill mode in Endgame. I get that those weren’t “human” enemies but still. Acting like he’s totally innocent when it comes to murder in No Way Home felt like a retcon

  • @NerdStuff2
    @NerdStuff2 Před 4 měsíci

    What if Ned becomes the Green goblet in the MCU but it won’t be called the green golden he will become the hob goblin which will be the MCU‘s counterpart of the green goblin and spider-Man knows he hast to fight his best friend

  • @mikewazaski8597
    @mikewazaski8597 Před 5 měsíci

    I feel like Eddie Brock or Harry Osborn needs to be placed into the muc to take the more beastly look of venom but still be an anti hero then introduce Martin li and make flash agent anti venom

  • @joeysmoot7608
    @joeysmoot7608 Před 7 měsíci +1

    u could maybe just say mj changed her name bc she became an actor or model?

  • @tombstonerforever9374
    @tombstonerforever9374 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Which MCU character has the potential to carry the franchise other than Spidey?

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +9

      The MCU's X-Men and Fantastic Four has that potential

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 Před 7 měsíci +3

      It's gotta be Daredevil for sure.

    • @MaximeLeTripleBG
      @MaximeLeTripleBG Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@TheBlackLion001Are you gonna do the same for X-Men and Fantastic Four ?

  • @TheRealBullyMaguire
    @TheRealBullyMaguire Před 7 měsíci

    He is my favourite Spider-Man

  • @bignerdenergy0308
    @bignerdenergy0308 Před 4 měsíci

    dawg, he doesn’t have an uncle ben, he’s never mentioned, never seen in any pictures, and we saw may giving pete the great power line in no way home and it was played has that was the first time he heard it. also realistically with how young may seems to be it’s totally possible she has never been married and raised pete as a single woman. either have his subconscious be may and/or tony. cause realistically tony and/or may was his motivation, we know that he’s always loved and and looked up to iron man/tony and that his aunt may always taught him good values. so realistically for this spider-man, he probably got his powers on a school trip similar to tobey, then maybe tried to use them for money a little, and one night he witnessed a lady being robbed or something and he decided to step in and he used his powers to help, and later that night he sees some broadcast of tony or something about the avengers and it’s talking about heroism and then that inspires tom to become spidey. 9:05

    • @bignerdenergy0308
      @bignerdenergy0308 Před 4 měsíci

      also in NWH doesn’t he like at least acknowledge that he didn’t have an uncle ben?

  • @ArchiePlayzGame
    @ArchiePlayzGame Před 7 měsíci

    😊 I like your channel

  • @l0u13__3
    @l0u13__3 Před 6 měsíci

    I think the last Spider-Man movie should be spider island mixed with clone saga
    Also it’s revealed that Peter has his powers but let’s others take up his responsibilities

  • @DylrioStudios
    @DylrioStudios Před 7 měsíci

    do a munant saga series videos PLZ

  • @Beezle66
    @Beezle66 Před 6 měsíci

    People need to be okay with actor recasting if they want a super long saga like this. Comic fans are NOTORIOUS known for hating recasting and an actor might not want to do a long 20 year saga even if the story is immaculate. If a another person is cast and nothing changes story wise, arc wish but the actor, i feel that's the only way for longevity of a story. Other wise 3 movies and 7 years later, were restarting the story over AGAIN because fans didn't want actor B to take over actor A's spot

  • @GMTAE29
    @GMTAE29 Před 4 měsíci

    GET THIS MAN TO MARVEL

  • @ggt47
    @ggt47 Před 7 měsíci

    The X-Men, Fantastic Four,the negatives zone, what else. But I am but if it will be good.

  • @Chaniya-td6kd
    @Chaniya-td6kd Před 6 měsíci

    Spider-man is GoT❤️💯🔥

  • @Joaquin-xq5wo
    @Joaquin-xq5wo Před 5 měsíci

    i don't think peter would kill someone tbh, i feel that kind of dampens his effort to spare norman in NWH. but i do get that not everything is black and white with characters and that they can get worse before they get better

  • @ender_z4nd3r83
    @ender_z4nd3r83 Před 6 měsíci

    I would like the simbiote suit to be in Like 2 movies before it really starts messing up with peter

  • @Ennrod-ly5st
    @Ennrod-ly5st Před 7 měsíci

    you should've included happy hogan as the freak

  • @Phoenix-in3bm
    @Phoenix-in3bm Před 2 měsíci +2

    Maaaan watching your videos just make me more disappointed in the MCU. The thought of your ideas not being canon movies that will release in the future make so depressed 😭

  • @peliviadhimba1805
    @peliviadhimba1805 Před 3 měsíci

    Bro should be hired to be a writer 😝

  • @johnmacias488
    @johnmacias488 Před 4 měsíci

    Man I could not disagree more with half your points. No doc ock. Recon mj as Mary Jane? Bring up Peter’s uncle Ben moment (bro did you not watch no way home, we saw his uncle Ben moment)

  • @allsome1o1
    @allsome1o1 Před 7 měsíci

    So no Eddie Brock Venom? Is there Venom movies made by Sony going on this whole time?

  • @jaycemcqueen306
    @jaycemcqueen306 Před 6 měsíci

    You had some good ideas here and I appreciate how much effort was put into this video but it just kept getting wackier and more stupid as it went on. That’s exactly why spiderman comics stopped selling well because they were so all over the place. So imo I don’t care for the overall set but still had some good ideas within that jumble

  • @superadambomb5834
    @superadambomb5834 Před 7 měsíci

    I don’t really agree with this take on Venom. I don’t really care who’s wearing the suit so I don’t mind that it’s Kraven but what I do care about is who Venom is. There are two main traits that make Venom such a terrifying villain. His hatred for Spider-Man and the fact that he knows his secret identity. His entire motivation is build on the foundation of his absolute undying hatred for Peter Parker. The fact that he knows his secret means he can be anywhere at anytime to try and kill Peter. Combine that with how he’s immune to spider sense then you have a villain who can be anywhere at anytime and Peter wouldn’t know. Making him just some big cgi monster takes away the core foundation of what makes Venom Venom.

  • @swam4362
    @swam4362 Před 6 měsíci

    Tom Holland pretty much doesn't want to do Spider-Man movies anymore, as he's now been in six MCU movies. It's also very stressful on his body. I'd rather them do other characters if I'm being honest.

  • @jonenthusiast_
    @jonenthusiast_ Před 6 měsíci

    Superior Spider-Man would never work on screen. The backlash would be insane.

  • @Therandomboiiii
    @Therandomboiiii Před 3 měsíci

    I don’t think we’ll see kraven in a Spider-Man movie because of the movie that he’s getting

  • @steveplaceholder6522
    @steveplaceholder6522 Před 7 měsíci

    I love how u didnt kill off peter's kids like the comics

  • @MRdaBakkle
    @MRdaBakkle Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ummm. Where's Big Wheel?

    • @yoyoyiggityyo16
      @yoyoyiggityyo16 Před 6 měsíci

      Big wheel will be in my universe that isn't lazily made and has more heroes than stupid Spider-People

    • @_Micah_Bell
      @_Micah_Bell Před měsícem

      ​@@yoyoyiggityyo16how's your universe coming along

  • @firedragon9784
    @firedragon9784 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Black lion new lore dropped?

  • @colgatebloke1538
    @colgatebloke1538 Před 6 měsíci

    in 20 years peter will still in highschool

  • @T3aseW1thease
    @T3aseW1thease Před 7 měsíci +1

    Kinda random question do u think nwh is overrated?

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 7 měsíci +1

      No, it's pretty properly rated.

    • @T3aseW1thease
      @T3aseW1thease Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheBlackLion001 thank you god most people nowadays call nwh the most overrated spider man movie when in reality that award goes to spider man 2 and people act like we think it’s a masterpiece even though it does have its fair share of problems

    • @user-oz3um2ii7o
      @user-oz3um2ii7o Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@T3aseW1theaseSpider-Man 2 is not overrated. It is the best Spider-Man movie

    • @T3aseW1thease
      @T3aseW1thease Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-oz3um2ii7o pfffff in ur dreams spider man 2 is one of the worst spider man sequels and spider man movie general it’s so mid and boring spider man 1 is way better than spider man 2

    • @user-oz3um2ii7o
      @user-oz3um2ii7o Před 7 měsíci

      @@T3aseW1thease I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye.

  • @alamanacmovie6872
    @alamanacmovie6872 Před 7 měsíci

    why would he not want to be spider man for that long he litterally said he always wanted to be spiderman