What if the MCU Was As Poorly Structured as the DCEU?

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
  • It’s been five years since the Infinity Saga came to an end and it’s already quite clear that since then the MCU hasn’t had as good of a structure to it’s releases or even as good a consistency of quality. That being said, it could definitely be worse, specifically, the MCU could’ve had the structure and average quality of the DCEU. In the past I looked at what the DCEU would’ve looked like if it had the MCU’s structure, this time around I’ll be doing the opposite, seeing what the MCU would look like if it was as inconsistent and as messy as the DCEU. This is something I did a few years ago but that video desperately needs an update both because of it’s quality and because the DCEU has since had a few more releases and has since been capped off as well.
    00:00 - Intro
    0:47 - Counterparts
    2:19 - 2013
    3:33 - 2014
    4:23 - 2016
    10:20 - 2017
    12:21 - 2018
    12:48 - 2019
    13:43 - 2020
    15:39 - 2021
    17:02 - 2022
    20:23 - 2023
    25:37 - 2024 and beyond
    25:55 - The Cancelled projects
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Komentáře • 653

  • @Rav_Ram
    @Rav_Ram Před 17 dny +1035

    It really puts into perspective how fucked it was, civil war being the second movie and like half the planned movies being canceled

    • @cybercrasherstv
      @cybercrasherstv Před 8 dny +43

      And people say irl civil war wasn't done at the right time, so this universe's discourse on the meu would be even worse. And keep in mind, civil war was one of the most recent comics when iron man came out, it was a gamble comic book fans even liked him anymore. Having that story be butchered like that when everyone just saw it would be a disaster we really haven't seen in a good while

    • @claycrawford7
      @claycrawford7 Před 7 dny +15

      Looking at that original announcement graphic is hilarious. Especially cause people forget they also did at like a company stockholders meeting and not like a movie convention, even though Disney was already doing slate announcements

    • @Rav_Ram
      @Rav_Ram Před 7 dny +8

      @claycrawford7 I remember seeing that graphic when it came out and I was like "a cyborg movie? Really?"not to mention the cw flash show premiered AND ended between that announcement and the movie finally coming out.

    • @claycrawford7
      @claycrawford7 Před 7 dny +2

      @@Rav_Ram I wish there was a full slate of whatever they had planned during 2020, cause I guess they were just basing everything around Keaton and it’s kind of a miracle they green lit a Blue Beetle movie as well.

    • @night6724
      @night6724 Před 7 dny +2

      Except BvS and civil war are nothing alike besides two heroes fighting
      First of all, do we need ANOTHER goddamn Batman origin movie? People lost their shit just at the OPENING credits of the Wayne’s deaths. Second, this wasn’t about an emotional struggle of two friends. It was about a fallen hero in Batman becoming paranoid about a potential threat in Superman. Like we don’t need a Batman movie to tell us Robin is dead and he’s upset.
      If LOTR came out today you’d say “why didn’t we get a stand alone Gimlee and Legolas film?

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer Před 17 dny +801

    Bro came for Snyder’s neck and I can’t say he’s wrong.

    • @_MECHA_
      @_MECHA_ Před 14 dny +5

      He is...only on the man of steel part

    • @night6724
      @night6724 Před 6 dny +4

      except this video is a straw man

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 Před 5 dny +1

      Ye

    • @Brams2777
      @Brams2777 Před 4 dny +1

      And Ayer lol

    • @nicholasaugello2534
      @nicholasaugello2534 Před 4 dny +5

      ​@@night6724calling an entire 26 minute video a straw man is crazy when you don't even explain why it is

  • @AintNoWaye
    @AintNoWaye Před 18 dny +1242

    Warner Bros letting Snyder run DC will haunt them for centuries

    • @AintNoWaye
      @AintNoWaye Před 18 dny +83

      like how hard is it to stick to comics, make structured built up movies, send your shows to max/netflix etc

    • @omega9270
      @omega9270 Před 18 dny +76

      That's the thing, he never ran it 💀💀
      I don't know what random twitter mf came up with that but if he ran DC he would've made the Extended cut of BVS the theatrical version, and would've made Justice League II parts if he didn't leave.

    • @jonathanhill3668
      @jonathanhill3668 Před 18 dny +98

      @@omega9270he was the creative leader behind the universe. They basically gave him the keys

    • @AintNoWaye
      @AintNoWaye Před 18 dny +52

      @@omega9270 a batman superman movie being dark and 3-4 hrs long is a mistake in the first place?

    • @rbleaks818
      @rbleaks818 Před 17 dny +46

      WB hiring a director to helm a universe who has NO intention to make a cinematic universe but only five movies with an extremely limited vision caused the DCEU to full reboot

  • @Bstroz32
    @Bstroz32 Před 11 dny +407

    Holy hell you realize how bad DC fumbled their attempt at a cinematic universe when you get to all the cancelled projects at the end😂😂

    • @XDarksoulX1129
      @XDarksoulX1129 Před 2 dny +7

      You see how bad it is just from seeing how bad the MCU really could've been

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 17 dny +547

    "A young street rat named Kamala Khan"
    Okay.... okay now i get why people hate Birds of Prey. I would be livid too.

    • @cantaloupegodling352
      @cantaloupegodling352 Před 6 dny +21

      It's really not a fair comparison.
      Cassandra Cain is a great character, one of my faves of the Batfam, but she's a Batgirl and not even the most well known one. They were never gonna do a Cassie Batgirl.
      Plus, the hate was completely unwarranted anyway because aside from that one bad character pick the movie is phenomenal. The amazingly shot action alone makes it a top tier superhero film.

    • @tonythehappynerd7241
      @tonythehappynerd7241 Před 6 dny +16

      In fairness, while it could’ve been more faithful to its source material, Birds Of Prey was a very good movie, and was an improvement over Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad

    • @arcats9004
      @arcats9004 Před 4 dny +3

      @@cantaloupegodling352 understandable, but consider that the assassin backstory is cooler

    • @darkmyro
      @darkmyro Před dnem +4

      Cassandra cain in the comics: mute assassin that later joins the bat family as a new batgirl thats tough as nails and not afraid to kill in order to fight her father in a bat suit that has no mouth opening since she cant talk
      Cassandra cain in the movie: petty thief who becomes a sort of a protege the Harley Quinn and swallows a diamond and is basically kind of a McGuffin in the movie for an extended poop joke and wears everyday clothing
      you decide who's cooler
      I mean I enjoyed the movie, but they could of named that kid anything else and it would have changed literally nothing in the film. Heck they could have genderbent a robin and it would have been better received. The fact that they named her after a cool character they were most likely never gonna do the cool thing with them added so much baggage to the movie that it really didn't need from fans.

  • @user-xz3pb3dt2u
    @user-xz3pb3dt2u Před 9 dny +174

    I think i can understand why Gunn reset the entire universe now....

  • @ptcarbonproductions2013
    @ptcarbonproductions2013 Před 17 dny +432

    6:17 Zemo's plan should totally include mixing his DNA with Red Skull's body to create Red Onslaught.

    • @mr.knightthedetective7435
      @mr.knightthedetective7435 Před 12 dny +32

      Holy shit that sounds bizarre but kinda badass at the same time LMAO

    • @captaineri.223
      @captaineri.223 Před 11 dny +14

      A Marvel Mutant Character?

    • @night6724
      @night6724 Před 7 dny +1

      @@mr.knightthedetective7435Why are people against how Doomsday was created in BvS when JLTAS literally had Cadmas create doomsday by cloning Superman?

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Před 6 dny +15

      what? but that's not even remotely close to how Onslaught was crea oooooh

    • @night6724
      @night6724 Před 6 dny +3

      @@ironmaster6496 Right because Doomsday’s origin was being grown in a lab by Cadmus. No wait, he was a genetically altered ancestor of Zod. Hold on no it a clone of superman.

  • @shanerulez79
    @shanerulez79 Před 10 dny +88

    The Wolverine should be staring Daniel Radcliffe who no one thought was a good fit for the role but everyone loved after seeing the movie 😂

    • @binho61717
      @binho61717 Před 10 dny +4

      I Would've Cast Henry Cavil (Kinda Fits)

    • @shanerulez79
      @shanerulez79 Před 10 dny +19

      @binho61717 I was going for the Harry Potter kid becomes Wolverine, sort of like how the Twilight kid became The Batman

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před 9 dny +3

      Isn't Daniel Radcliffe also kinda short too? Even better!

    • @shanerulez79
      @shanerulez79 Před 9 dny +5

      @BrendanJSmith short and hairy 😆 that's why she's a popular fan cast

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 17 dny +318

    22:08 I love how the best example of Benedict Cumberbatch's insane antics was him taking a silly selfie. No child literally biting a bullet. No trying to "recruit" an underage girl. Just going on his balcony and facetiming his kid with a silly face. And that gets plastered all over the National Enquirer.

    • @Nobody44112
      @Nobody44112 Před 9 dny +47

      i like to imagine in that universe people are very stingy when it comes to being too wacky and quirky

    • @Neonvolendam
      @Neonvolendam Před 6 dny +32

      Thousands of moviegoers would boycott Doctor Strange because Benedict's selfie was just too silly.

    • @finleykennedy7763
      @finleykennedy7763 Před 6 dny +19

      @@Neonvolendam Benedict Cumberbatch blacklisted for being too silly

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 Před 5 dny +2

      True

  • @augustusabram8689
    @augustusabram8689 Před 17 dny +263

    One of these days you’re gonna make a video called “What If the MCU was structured like the Arrowverse?”.

    • @theinsurance2450
      @theinsurance2450 Před 16 dny +2

      How would do a movie series with a show series?

    • @marcelinovazquez5128
      @marcelinovazquez5128 Před 14 dny +6

      ​@@theinsurance2450Aside from using the movies that exist maybe borrow some comic storylines that are closely similar to each season of the Arrowverse respectively. Like how Arrow Season 6 had their version of the Longbow Hunters (I know they weren't called the Longbow Hunters and that was a different team but they're more similar and has bigger roles than the actual Longbow Hunters) a potential Captain America Season 6 could use the Serpent Society. Or the Secret Empire storyline could be their version of the 9th Circle from Arrow Season 7. Or if Iron Man is the counterpart to the Flash in this scenario the Demon in a Bottle storyline could be used in place of Flashpoint since it dealt with the characters trauma.

    • @connorbrazington-lang2401
      @connorbrazington-lang2401 Před 14 dny +4

      I would like that.

    • @personalover2498
      @personalover2498 Před 10 dny +10

      If you want to use the same character counterparts from this video
      Arrow: Daredevil
      Supergirl: Captain Carter
      The Flash: Doctor Strange
      Legends of Tomorrow: Exiles
      Black Lightning: Luke Cage
      Batwoman: Ironheart

    • @marcelinovazquez5128
      @marcelinovazquez5128 Před 10 dny +2

      I forgot to mention the CZcamsr MrEliMac actually did a series on that topic and it's pretty. I recommend checking especially Black Lion never does this topic himself

  • @jonahrk_rider3602
    @jonahrk_rider3602 Před 17 dny +108

    Can't wait for season 2 of My adventures with Captain America it a really good show.

    • @TheBlackLion001
      @TheBlackLion001  Před 17 dny +30

      Young Avengers and Avengers Unlimited are some of my favorite shows ever

    • @binho61717
      @binho61717 Před 10 dny +5

      There's Also The Avengers Secret Wars Trilogy Which Is Ending The Out Of His Time-Verse (They Acctually Killed Off Doctor Strange In Part One)

  • @LucianoIannotti-ik4md
    @LucianoIannotti-ik4md Před 18 dny +176

    “The Rhinos” got me dying 🤣🤣🤣

    • @JustavocomJ
      @JustavocomJ Před 17 dny +2

      I didn't get the reference

    • @LucianoIannotti-ik4md
      @LucianoIannotti-ik4md Před 17 dny +38

      @JustavocomJ They were thinking of making a spin-off of Aquaman about the trench creatures

    • @JustavocomJ
      @JustavocomJ Před 17 dny +10

      @@LucianoIannotti-ik4md oh yeah i forgot that shit

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 17 dny +10

      Then an unrelated action movie sequel based on a novel starring Jason Statham comes out named "Sabretooth 2: The Rhinos"

    • @juliancaraveo5700
      @juliancaraveo5700 Před 14 dny +4

      I AM THE RHINOOO !!!!
      - The Rhino from The Amazing Spiderman 2

  • @mr_a_dawg
    @mr_a_dawg Před 17 dny +218

    We all know the real reason why you picked a Wolverine movie as an equivalent to the Batman and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine as an equivalent to Keaton's Batman: Wolverine's cowl looks like 2 Batmen kissing.

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 15 dny +48

      Why man kissing? Is he gay? Why is he cheating on jonkler?

    • @mr_a_dawg
      @mr_a_dawg Před 15 dny +3

      @@goldenfiberwheat238 if you look at Wolverine’s cowl for quite some time, it looks like 2 Batman kissing

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 15 dny +27

      @@mr_a_dawg oh I guess you aren’t into Arkham community jokes

    • @sgtroach1510
      @sgtroach1510 Před 10 dny +18

      @@mr_a_dawgis there a lore reason why?

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv Před 7 dny

      ​@@mr_a_dawgis he stupid

  • @KaijuofSteel
    @KaijuofSteel Před 5 dny +23

    The Tom Hardy analogy of The Rock was so funny and so true, trying to turn a B List villain into an A List antihero that doesn't want anything to do with his hero counterpart

  • @flasheditz1_
    @flasheditz1_ Před 18 dny +229

    Make a Marvel version of the Arrowverse

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 17 dny +96

    I'd like to think that in this universe, Tom Hardy pissed in bottles on the set of Mad Max: Fury Road and insisted on staying at a five star hotel in the city, arriving to set in the desert six or seven hours late.
    Instead of feuding with Charlize Theron, he feuds with George Miller, and gets a bad reputation in Hollywood despite being a massive box office draw, which crumbles when his Venom film is released and it flops.
    Meanwhile, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson never shaves his head, spends less time in the gym, and thus achieves his true acting power. He is cast in a Sony-produced Black Adam film (with no Shazam) that does amazingly well off the back of Justice League: The Anti-Life War.

    • @Neonvolendam
      @Neonvolendam Před 6 dny +14

      But then everything goes to shit once Sony makes "Doctor Sivana" starring Christian Bale, but without Shazam. The movie is a financial disaster and an online laughing stock for months. However, Sony proceeds to make "Lady Blaze", which also turns out to be a huge flop.

    • @jamesthanoob
      @jamesthanoob Před 6 dny +14

      The idea of Tom Hardy insisting that Venom will chamge the heirarchy of power in the Marvel Universe is really funny for no reason

    • @personalover2498
      @personalover2498 Před 5 dny

      *Justice League: Apokolips War, watch the other video

    • @mikejeffries3333
      @mikejeffries3333 Před 3 dny +3

      Now that you say that, I think, if anything, Morbius would have been a better equivalent to Black Adam. Think about it:
      >Actor is self-obsessed and notoriously hard to work with, yet keeps getting roles
      >Character is almost completely irrelevant without his archenemy, who is completely vacant from the movie
      >Movie advertises itself as being about a gritty antihero, when it's really just about a slightly edgy hero
      >Main villain ends up being a random character no one has ever heard of with a weird and kind of boring fight
      Then just throw the Fantastic Four in for no reason and have Captain America show up at the end. Also, I'd kill off Mr. Fantastic instead, because he seems like he'd be the most interesting, and we wouldn't want a more interesting character than Morbius in his movie, now would we?

    • @personalover2498
      @personalover2498 Před 3 dny

      @@mikejeffries3333 I get all this but it had to be Venom because Spider-Man is the Shazam equivalent, so the Black Adam equivalent has to be a major Spider-Man villain who got their own movie, ergo Venom as he is the "evil" Spider-Man like how Black Adam is the "evil" Shazam

  • @EduardoGarcia-ph4jj
    @EduardoGarcia-ph4jj Před 4 dny +10

    And thats the universe where halloween was full of elektra costumes

  • @CJDrewlan
    @CJDrewlan Před 18 dny +41

    Eddie brock totally should’ve been played by The Rock still in this fictional universe

  • @youssefmesrati340
    @youssefmesrati340 Před 18 dny +275

    Day 3 of asking to make the Power rangers reboot into a cinematic universe with the structure of the mcu

  • @LucasHopkins2006
    @LucasHopkins2006 Před 18 dny +87

    Ok, don’t care what Snyder fanboys/people who don’t understand Superman are gonna say to me for this, the digs at Superman’s characterization through Cap was kinda funny to me (edit:make that digs towards many of the DCEU’s weird or dumb decisions, still funny)

    • @_MECHA_
      @_MECHA_ Před 14 dny +4

      I love man of steel.
      Sydner on the other hand...? eh.....
      Not all people who like man of steel "don't understand superman"

    • @LucasHopkins2006
      @LucasHopkins2006 Před 14 dny +15

      @@_MECHA_ I never said people who like Man of Steel don’t understand Superman, I like it myself, I just said Snyder fanboys at the same time as that cause with the fans of his that defend the stuff he did for DC (all while probably acting like Gunn is terrible for DC and the DCU’s doomed when we haven’t even gotten to it yet) like their lives depend on it, it just feels like at least some of them fall into that category, but not all

    • @_MECHA_
      @_MECHA_ Před 14 dny +2

      @@LucasHopkins2006 oh. Sorry I misunderstood you.

    • @LucasHopkins2006
      @LucasHopkins2006 Před 14 dny +3

      @@_MECHA_ No worries, probably should’ve made that more clear myself from the get go

    • @_MECHA_
      @_MECHA_ Před 14 dny +2

      @@LucasHopkins2006 it's alright

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 17 dny +61

    24:25 It should be X-23. Ironheart would be the closest to actual Batgirl. But to stick with the lower budget, the super team, the legacy actor as the mentor, gotta be X-23.

  • @Muicheerio
    @Muicheerio Před 6 dny +17

    I’m so glad the mcu was structured as it was

  • @damarioncoleman6226
    @damarioncoleman6226 Před 18 dny +71

    I would love to see a video where you do a Marvel Movie Universe where marvel owned all their characters but it doesn’t follow the MCU structure which means iron man, captain America, Spider-Man, x men, and fantastic four and more all have trilogys, you can have tv series and movies at the same time like Hawkeye or Daredevil series during phase 2. And you can go pass 22 films in phase 1-3. Shung Chi, Black Panther and Captain Marvel can appear earlier in the universe.

  • @nathaniel201
    @nathaniel201 Před 13 dny +80

    Blue Beetle was such a weird anomaly that I had to pause the video to think really hard about what Ghost Rider was a counterpart to.
    As someone who's always been more familiar with Marvel than DC, having Cull Obsidian be the main villain of the Avengers really puts into focus how wild it was that Steppenwolf was carrying the whole Justice League event.
    Is it weird that I actually kind of like the opening premise of this universe's Civil War (Captain America finding a darker Iron Man vigilante)? The Civil War we actually got never felt like anyone was really at risk of dying and this would have some weight to it. It could be a fun What If episode at least (although obviously dumb for the main movie).

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 Před 6 dny +3

      The set up for his civil war movie makes more sense than the actual BvS conflict.

    • @gavrilosinaga
      @gavrilosinaga Před 6 dny +3

      That's because the stakes of Captain America: Civil War IRL is less about life & death but more about the team's internal division...

  • @humberto022
    @humberto022 Před 6 dny +12

    thank god we dont live in a universe where that actually happened.

  • @IllusionMaster17
    @IllusionMaster17 Před 6 dny +14

    DCEU is the perfect example of how not to structure a media Universe.
    The awful ammount of bad decisions they took and way to address movies' order is sickening.
    I'm so glad that at least the MCU was much better in arranging their projects.
    Because REALLY, just this video made me imagine things I couldn't ever get over with.

  • @jpyanity443
    @jpyanity443 Před 16 dny +35

    I know you said you stuck with the Peacemaker plot because it’s all original so it’s not DC dependent but since it’s a Marvel equivalent I can’t help but point out how well the Skrulls would fit, being aliens who can impersonate anyone

  • @autisticbuckfan
    @autisticbuckfan Před 6 dny +12

    As a non DC fan this really puts into perspective how bad the DCEU was 😭

  • @Beezle66
    @Beezle66 Před 11 dny +17

    This was STRESSFUL

  • @daniel_kb3434
    @daniel_kb3434 Před 18 dny +39

    Really love these types of alternate history videos, was a very fun watch great job black lion

  • @marvelking28-mr5mj
    @marvelking28-mr5mj Před 17 dny +18

    I made my own version of this a few months ago. Captain America: The First Avenger
    Captain America: Civil War
    Thunderbolts
    Thor
    The Avengers
    Namor
    Captain Marvel
    A-Force
    Thor 2
    The Thunderbolts
    US Agent
    Doctor Doom
    Captain Marvel: Space Race
    Quicksilver
    Spider-Man
    Namor 2

  • @Rmcrace2319
    @Rmcrace2319 Před 8 dny +26

    As someone who is a die hard Marvel/MCU fan, and a casual DC/DCEU fan, this video really put into perspective just how bad the DCEU really was. I absolutely loved The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, the Flash, and Shazam, but that’s really it. This was a fantastic video and I’m glad I finally understand what it was like for DC fans

  • @fabiocxx
    @fabiocxx Před 16 dny +17

    I think a female group movie with Deadpool would be very on brand, at least Ryan Reynolds Deadpool

  • @DougieYT
    @DougieYT Před 5 dny +6

    Snyder turned nearly every DC Character into an edgy carbon copy of Bruce Wayne.

  • @rosewoodsoundradio
    @rosewoodsoundradio Před 16 dny +17

    The Thunderbolts roster in either movie sounds infinitely more interesting than the real life version lol
    The rebooted MCU is way better than the actual DCU lineup too

  • @Ringohulk777
    @Ringohulk777 Před 7 dny +4

    The non existence of Hulk in this hypothetical, while completely accurate and sensible, infuriates me.

  • @mikedrewson5545
    @mikedrewson5545 Před 18 dny +24

    You should do a remake of your video where you structure the MCU if they have all their rights.

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 17 dny +1

      With Feige at the helm, I don't think it'd be that different initially. Some X-Men and Spidey sprinkled in there, but not too much because there'd already have been 4 and 3 movies respectively. The big difference I think would be kicking off with a new Fantastic Four. But it would probably diverge big time in Phase 3.

    • @marianomartinez3008
      @marianomartinez3008 Před 5 dny

      ​@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ciwil War like comics, with Peter releved his indentify to finish in One More Day😧

  • @Whyyoulooking45
    @Whyyoulooking45 Před 12 dny +8

    Bro a Doctor Doom movie…imagine it being nominated for an Oscar

    • @ernestorivas3764
      @ernestorivas3764 Před 10 dny +2

      If Joker talks about depression and society; what would this alternate timeline "Doctor Doom" movie talk about.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před 9 dny +6

      ​@@ernestorivas3764Probably a bunch of political jargon. He's the dictator of his own country.

  • @jorginator8524
    @jorginator8524 Před 10 dny +8

    I always thought that it would make more sense if spiderman no way home was the equivalent of the flash, basically being the first spider-man movie in the MEU and also having the task to reboot the whole thing

  • @elius1548
    @elius1548 Před 4 dny +3

    This was the most incomprehensible video I’ve seen in a while. I mean this as a compliment, you really made a strong point about the DCEU

  • @user-iw5kc1oq8i
    @user-iw5kc1oq8i Před 18 dny +25

    would been funnier if it was the rock who played venom

  • @HerbCoswellBornAgain
    @HerbCoswellBornAgain Před 17 dny +14

    X-23 is the Batgirl equivalent (or was) because the original plan would be to bring Hugh Jackman Wolverine (and presumably by extension the rest of the Fox X-Men) into the MEU, and in place of Wakanda Forever, we could have it's equivalent could be a proper Cap sequel so at least this universe can come full circle.

  • @fishmobsmovietv514
    @fishmobsmovietv514 Před 4 dny +3

    You forgot, they were also planning on a Harley Quinn vs The joker movie, so we also needed a canceled Electra vs kingpin movie.

  • @hifive789
    @hifive789 Před 3 dny +2

    And of course, there were the Devilverse shows:
    Devil - Ran for 8 seasons
    Doctor Strange - Ran for 9 seasons
    Scarlet Witch - Ran for 1 season
    Iron Heart - Ran for 6 seasons
    Legends of Tomorrow - Ran for 7 seasons
    Storm - Ran for 4 seasons
    Captain Britain - Ran for 3 seasons
    Kitty Pride - Ran for 3 seasons
    Iron Man & Potts - Ran for 4 seasons

  • @mikejeffries3333
    @mikejeffries3333 Před 3 dny +3

    Okay, hear me out: while I loved almost everything about this video, instead of "Venom," I think we should have gotten "Morbius," starring Jared Leto as the equivalent to Black Adam. Think about it:
    >Actor is self-obsessed and notoriously hard to work with, yet keeps getting roles
    >Character is almost completely irrelevant without his archenemy, who is completely vacant from the movie
    >Movie advertises itself as being about a gritty antihero, when it's really just about a slightly edgy hero
    >Main villain ends up being a random character no one has ever heard of with a weird and kind of boring fight
    Then just throw the Fantastic Four in for no reason and have Captain America show up at the end. Also, I'd kill off Mr. Fantastic instead, because he seems like he'd be the most interesting, and we wouldn't want a more interesting character than Morbius in his movie, now would we?

  • @starset4life175
    @starset4life175 Před 9 dny +5

    Now what if the Monsterverse was structured like the MCU?

  • @jamesplayzreviews
    @jamesplayzreviews Před 18 dny +15

    "And the fight everyone has always wanted to happen: Captain America vs. Venom is finally teased" I know this is like a creative/fun thing but to be real, if Captain America did fight Venom, he'd likely just barely hold his own against him if not get absolutely destroyed.

    • @SuperBatSpider
      @SuperBatSpider Před 17 dny +1

      I think Captain America would win. The captain would pull through with pure determination.

    • @jamesplayzreviews
      @jamesplayzreviews Před 17 dny +4

      @@SuperBatSpider Yeah but Venom is the come back king. For pete's sake, he fought his fricking creator. Someone who was said (before he did die) to be impossible to kill and be able to kill anyone in the Marvel universe. Someone who wiped out Sentry so easily it hurt all the Sentry fans that exist. Only way I can see Captain America winning that battle is if he had Mjolnir and even then that's only because of lightning creating fire.

    • @SuperBatSpider
      @SuperBatSpider Před 17 dny +1

      @@jamesplayzreviews Yeah. Venom is definitely coming back, but Cap is probably gonna win the first match and as he’s a legendary hero he’s definitely at least not getting killed by Venom. I could see him losing a rematch though.

    • @StarkMaximum
      @StarkMaximum Před 15 hodinami

      Venom vs Cap is a difficult fight to sell because both characters are very popular for very different reasons. No matter who wins, a significant portion of the fanbase is upset. It would _have_ to be a standoff and I can only hope it would be a cool one where both parties still feel like they're fighting their best but evenly matched and not a pissy one where it's clear they're both pulling punches because corporate can't let one of them win.

  • @DarianGunawan-ry4fj
    @DarianGunawan-ry4fj Před 4 dny +2

    "The Rhinos" made me laugh my ass off lmaoooo a movie about rhinos

  • @Monkey_Boy9602
    @Monkey_Boy9602 Před 11 dny +4

    It's absolutely depressing that in both realities we will never see the Thunderbolts real origin played out in live action. Why skip over the best part of the story just so we can have Marvel's Suicide Squad?

  • @elcorvo4108
    @elcorvo4108 Před 14 dny +6

    Nah, It should be just Super Soldier, no Captain America, like Man of Steel (JK cool video)

    • @binho61717
      @binho61717 Před 10 dny

      I Would've Name It The Man Out Of His Time

  • @Uulfinn
    @Uulfinn Před 5 dny +2

    One of the worst decisions was having doomsday and the death of superman before the justice league movie. There were a ton of terrible decisions with the dceu.

  • @touchstonefan0348
    @touchstonefan0348 Před 8 dny +3

    Chris Evans shot alternate endings for The Flash movie appearing as Cap. However they got cut and replaced with Dougray Scott as Logan, with Strange asking WTF?!
    For those who may not know. Scott was originally cast as Logan for X-Men but left due to Mission Impossible 2 having reshoots. So Hugh got it thankfully. Best I could do with replacing the Clooney cameo with something Wolverine related 🤣

  • @akwilson1676
    @akwilson1676 Před 18 dny +12

    This is comedic gold.

  • @Miunim
    @Miunim Před 9 dny +5

    3:19 I have a strong urge to post this part on Twitter without context just to see how people react

  • @EsihleMadi
    @EsihleMadi Před 17 dny +1

    Iv been waiting for this,thank u

  • @matthewrosenthal753
    @matthewrosenthal753 Před 14 dny +5

    There is a large flaw in this premise , and it is as follows: The DCEU had a poor structure, is patently untrue. It was simply built too fast and held together with paper clips instead of nails.

    • @tylerleach8796
      @tylerleach8796 Před 13 dny +14

      …that’s a poor structure.

    • @matthewrosenthal753
      @matthewrosenthal753 Před 13 dny

      @@tylerleach8796 no it’s not as the structure was “ To tell stories in a connected universe” that in of itself is fine. The problem was in the execution. They had the stories decades of them. We know the characters but you have to take your time. They didn’t so corners were cut and it failed. Gunn’s version will to because they haven’t learned their lesson.

    • @tylerleach8796
      @tylerleach8796 Před 13 dny +14

      @@matthewrosenthal753 a structure that is built too fast and barely held together is, by definition, a poor one.

    • @ThibautMahringer
      @ThibautMahringer Před 5 dny

      @@matthewrosenthal753 Warner Bros never learn their lesson, never ever

    • @mikejeffries3333
      @mikejeffries3333 Před 3 dny

      @@matthewrosenthal753 You're talking about the premise. You can argue that the premise-telling stories in a connected universe-is fine, but the structure being "built too fast and held together with paper clips" is, in fact... a poor structure.

  • @kwproductions6737
    @kwproductions6737 Před 9 dny +4

    Time traveller moves a chair
    The timeline

  • @ThatGenericPyro
    @ThatGenericPyro Před 6 dny +3

    This is a hilarious thought experiment

  • @andm9766
    @andm9766 Před 14 dny +5

    If it was really like the DCEU I feel Thor would’ve came in during civil war to show the trinity and it would’ve had to be a stronger villain who appears like doomsday which is one of Superman’s strongest

  • @danielmonteiro9942
    @danielmonteiro9942 Před 17 dny +20

    Oh, I see what you (probably) didn't making Natalie Portman the catalyst for Joss Whedon's downfall during The Avengers' production. Well played.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před 9 dny

      Explain?

    • @danielmonteiro9942
      @danielmonteiro9942 Před 9 dny +3

      @@BrendanJSmith Well, taking that Gal Gadot (of all people) denounced Whedon for his very gross behavior with her during Josstice League's production, I think that, here, Natalie Portman, or, most probably, Scarlett Johansson, would denounce Whedon and that's the conflict that would bring in Zack Snyder and The Snygers. Though Marvel fans would have to be content with having the Frankenstein that the original movie is, because, well, let's just say, its the closest thing they'll get from an Avengers movie until Gunn really kicks in the MU.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před 9 dny

      @@danielmonteiro9942 But in real life, Zack Snyder never had any negative claims made against him. So you're not even making any sense.

    • @danielmonteiro9942
      @danielmonteiro9942 Před 9 dny

      @@BrendanJSmith It's to not kill anyone in the Whedon family.

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith Před 9 dny

      @@danielmonteiro9942 nobody killed anybody! Wtf are you talking about??

  • @nicholaswolff2181
    @nicholaswolff2181 Před 6 dny +1

    This is probably the best parallel I've seen, but deadpool should've been put in US agent as a parallel to Vigilante

  • @davidfeltheim2501
    @davidfeltheim2501 Před 7 dny +2

    What sucks is that Marvel has now totally dropped in DCEU quality, Guardians 3 and The Batman being standout films while Quantumania and The Flash being almost unwatchable.

  • @cyber-thundr_
    @cyber-thundr_ Před 12 dny +3

    Their new films are not bad in the past 3 years but NOW their expansion is “complicatedly” structured this time around, and sometimes they terribly added forced story elements. Nobody cares about Thanos’ brother this soon, Avengers Endgame was only 2 years old. Ms Marvel is a good character in The Marvels but you need to know more about her character by watching her series on Disney+.

  • @Pyraticalpunk
    @Pyraticalpunk Před 4 hodinami

    (Working on this list)
    2:30 Captain America Super Soldier | Man of Steel
    4:25 Iron Man vs Captain America: Civil War | Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
    7:30 Thunderbolts | Suicide Squad
    10:20 Thor | Wonder Woman
    10:47 Snyder's Avengers | Justice League
    12:23 Black Panther | Aquaman
    12:50 Spider Man: Homecoming |
    13:40 Doctor Doom | Venom?
    13:45 A-Force and The Extraordinary Liberation of Elektra | Birds of Prey
    14:38 Thor: Love and Thunder | Wonder Woman: 1984
    15:40 Joss Whedon's The Avengers | Justice League Snyder Cut
    16:07 The Thunderbolts | The Suicide Squad
    17:04 U.S. Agent | Peacemaker
    18:30 The Wolverine | The Batman
    18:45 Venom | Black Adam
    20:29 Reboot
    21:00 Spider Man: Far From Home | Shazam
    22:05 Doctor Strange | The Flash
    24:32 Ghost Rider | Blue Beetle
    25:07 Black Panther: Wakanda Forever | Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom

  • @connorbrazington-lang2401

    Well since Michael Keaton was supposed to be Batman in Batgirl, I'd go with X-23.

  • @kiwi_arms
    @kiwi_arms Před 3 dny +1

    i'm obsessede with this timeline's equivalent of dc's huge black adam push, where there's a huge comic event that ends with venom giving EVERY superhero a symbiote to fight the event's villain (who is, inexplicably, mister sinister)

  • @ethancadge2102
    @ethancadge2102 Před 6 dny +2

    Funny thing is that this is probably still better written them the DCEU

  • @doriandaykin2747
    @doriandaykin2747 Před 17 dny +2

    My equivalence is this:
    1. Super Soldier (Baron Zemo)
    2. Civil War (Norman Osborn, Winter Soldier)
    3. Thunderbolts (Enchantress, Baron Zemo)
    4. Thor (Loki, Laufey)
    5. The Avengers (Ebony Maw)
    6. Black Panther (Killmonger, Klaw)
    7. Captain Marvel (Ronan The Accuser)
    8. Deadpool And The X-Force (Mister Sinister, Juggernaut)
    9. Thor: The Dark World (Malekith, Kurse)
    10. The Thunderbolts (Fin Fang Foom, MODOK)
    10.1. U.S. Agent (Flag Smasher)
    11. Doctor Doom (Mephisto)
    12. Captain Marvel: Fury Of The Kree (Supreme Intelligence)
    13. Scarlet Witch (Magneto)
    14. Ant-Man (Yellowjacket)
    15. Black Panther And The Lost Kingdom (Namor, Attuma, Namora)
    I'm happy with pretty much all of them except Captain Marvel as Shazam. I cannot find a better fit, and I'm not using Spider-Man because he is my counterpart for The Batman universe.
    My choice of Scarlet Witch for the Flash movie is based on how similar the concepts of House Of M and Flashpoint Paradox are. Also we can use Quicksilver as the counterpart to annoying young Barry.

  • @VDOTU5
    @VDOTU5 Před 3 dny

    "Thor: Love & Thunder also caused controversy due to Jane being resurrected in some random, unamed woman. That woman, while unconscious, was used for a night of passion between Thor and Jane. Ultimately, r-wording her which was never addressed in the movie. The writers and director were never allowed to work in mainstream entertainment ever again".

  • @azeemtravadi6128
    @azeemtravadi6128 Před 3 dny +1

    turns out taking an Ayn Rand-ist approach to superhero movies when the comics focus on a much more realistic, hopeful, and less authoritarian approach leads to boring shitty stories about selfish gods and a ton of cancelled projects

  • @hyperthehedgehog
    @hyperthehedgehog Před 17 dny +3

    Could please make a video on what the Spider-Man films and sequels would look like without Sony's constant meddling.

  • @julianm.b6397
    @julianm.b6397 Před 4 dny +1

    Now I want Matt Reeves "The Wolverine"

  • @razorback9999able
    @razorback9999able Před 5 dny +1

    The reason why Warner Bros failed the DCEU is because they envy Marvel's MCU at that time

  • @crookedcaspershorts
    @crookedcaspershorts Před 15 dny +3

    One of the funniest titles I’ve seen 😭

  • @realityb5759
    @realityb5759 Před 17 dny +1

    I tried doing this a while ago, and this is what I came up with
    1. The First Avenger
    2. Iron Man v. Captain America: Civil War
    3. X-Men
    4. Thor
    5. The Avengers (Black Widow is the Cyborg equivalent and no director's cut exists)
    6. The Incredible Hulk
    7. Fantastic Four
    8. The Wolverine
    9. Thor: Love and Thunder
    10. X-Force (with a Deadpool spin-off that's the equivalent to Peacemaker)
    11. Silver Surfer
    12. Fantastic Four 2
    13. Ant-Man
    14. Spider-Man
    15. Planet Hulk

  • @jaimeolivasreyes6126
    @jaimeolivasreyes6126 Před 5 dny +1

    U forgot to mention In this alternate universe james gunn uses the same 5 actors and his wife for the cast

  • @The_Vizo
    @The_Vizo Před 8 dny +1

    This video is mindbending.

  • @PhoebeTheFairy56
    @PhoebeTheFairy56 Před 13 dny +1

    7:30 I love it when earth-12041is brought up

  • @jaryncovell2538
    @jaryncovell2538 Před 8 dny +1

    Black Adam wasn't a bad movie. It's sad it got the treatment that it did

  • @FittedSheetGaming
    @FittedSheetGaming Před 5 dny +1

    This really puts it into perspective huh.. both how bad the dceu was, and how bad the MCU has become

  • @photonic00
    @photonic00 Před 14 dny +5

    now i want to see venom vs captain america 🤣

  • @TheWesinatorvids
    @TheWesinatorvids Před 47 minutami

    The only changes I would make would be to keep Deadpool as the Harley Quinn counterpart, and titling his spinoff movie: Deadpool and His Frickin Awesome All-Female A-Force. The fact that he’s a male character leading an all-female team would be a major joke that gets highlighted throughout the film.
    The other thing I would change would be to make Ant-Man the counterpart to The Flash as opposed to Doctor Strange, as I think he fits the sillier tone better, and you could do the universe-hopping thing by having him overload the suit’s shrinking abilities, causing him to shrink between the metaphorical threads in the fabric of the universe.

  • @marianomartinez3008
    @marianomartinez3008 Před 5 dny +2

    I forgive you Kevin Feige😧

  • @broimvengeance
    @broimvengeance Před 17 dny +2

    Someone needs to make a comparison chart of all the projects he talked about at the end and which ones they relate to because i could'nt follow more than half of it.

  • @ToaAxiomMan
    @ToaAxiomMan Před 8 hodinami

    why do I get the feeling that in this cursed timeline, this unmade Avengers 2 and 3 would involve some drama involving Stark or Rogers being the dad of Pepper's child just like in our timeline's cancelled Justice League sequel and then Thanos shows up and everything messes up and then in movie three they go to fix what went wrong, big fight happens and then Stark dies along with Thanos and something like that

  • @matthewcarreras1904
    @matthewcarreras1904 Před 5 dny +1

    I mean for Harley, Gwenpool could've worked.

  • @ponderosabones7803
    @ponderosabones7803 Před 3 dny

    It took me way too long to realize that the Else World Doctor Doom movie was your Joker equivalent lol

  • @tristan5502
    @tristan5502 Před 9 dny +2

    This is the kind way to say "hey dceu! You suck!"

  • @bradyduzeski7412
    @bradyduzeski7412 Před 6 dny +1

    I love the switch up of Joss Wedon and Zach Snyder, definitely makes sense for this universe lol Also Benedict Cumberbatch being crazy is hilarious lol

  • @shrekpuffmelloman5593
    @shrekpuffmelloman5593 Před 12 dny +1

    “Shazam only really has 3 villains” the monster society of evil would beg to differ.

  • @Gygamonster
    @Gygamonster Před 6 hodinami

    So James Gunn takes over Marvel in this universe and DC in our universe….I see this as an absolute win

  • @supamillienp
    @supamillienp Před dnem

    7:26 "What are we, some sort of The Thunderbolts?"

  • @austinallemand1882
    @austinallemand1882 Před 16 dny

    You never specified who was in charge of your MEU, so now you're making me want to see a what if Kevin Feige was in charge of your MEU video.

  • @CiderVG
    @CiderVG Před 3 dny +1

    What if they made a Nintendo Cinematic Universe with the same structure as the MCU

  • @aq3x.1
    @aq3x.1 Před 8 dny +1

    the batgirl movie is so crazyyyyyy, fact that it was about to release but didnt

  • @madtitanthanos7898
    @madtitanthanos7898 Před 17 dny +2

    Honestly one of the only improvements would be that since iron man would be Batmans equivalent Edwin Jarvis from the comics would be his butler so that's pretty neat (not that I don't like the AI JARVIS)

  • @Jorpda
    @Jorpda Před 9 dny +1

    This whole thing would be worth it for that Dr Doom movie

  • @TheDrexLord
    @TheDrexLord Před 2 dny +1

    You really should do a spidey universe as the mcu structure

  • @emmanuelbongar7370
    @emmanuelbongar7370 Před dnem +1

    Captain America in the MEU is basically Earth-1610 Cap lol

  • @daniboypicazzo
    @daniboypicazzo Před 17 dny

    I want a video with him giving the plot synopsis and castings of the cancelled projects