Female Thor is a BORE | Thor Love and Thunder is a DISASTER
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2022
- Thor Love and Thunder continues to RUIN the Marvel mythos. Just as Taika Waititi promised. Disney Marvel has moved past being a shadow of it's former self straight into an M-She-U PARODY.
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Wanda-loses a boyfriend she knew for 2-3 years and two kids she only knew for a couple of days while enslaving a town full of innocent people
Gets treated as a tragic character we should feel bad about
Thor-loses his mother,father,brother,friends,his kingdom and half of his people and blames himself for all of it
Is treated as a comic relief we should all laugh at
Seems fair to me
This is what happens when you hire amoral sociopathic people to write morality tales. 🤷♂️
@@mariejuana8246 You can't be serious 😂
Oh, and don’t forget her boyfriend was basically the equivalent of a vibrator and her “kids” were the equivalent of very convincing VR charecters.
Let’s not forget we had to make Thor the poster child for PTSD in Endgame. We were supposed to be understanding that he spiraled out of control with depression. It wasn’t to be mocked due to the seriousness of what he was going through, but now it is fine to joke and dismiss his pain. He is just a clown to entertain the masses.
It amazes me that Thor, a literal Thunder God who killed Thanos in Endgame, gets treated like comic relief in his own movies. Almost like they hate the character
White male heros are being destroyed it doesn't amaze me but u get ya.
Well he is a straight white male. Of course they hate him..
Sad to see Chris, someone with a few hundred grand on his bank account do that willing. AFTER what happened with Loki.
@@moonbrickmotion9425 I prefer his phase 1 and comic book personality.
I mean look at Strange 2. Dr. Strange ain't even the main character of that movie tbh. It feel so underwhelming as a sequel to strange 1.
Valkyrie didn't earn her place as King, it was gifted to her, out of all the Asgardians she's the least deserving considering all the people she sold into slavery that went on to die in the arena. The insistence of calling the ex slaver and confirmed drunk Valkyrie 'King' is an appalling message to send to young women, dabble in slavery, get drunk and the world is yours.
With Heimdall, Odin, Loki, Sif, Freya, the Warrior Three and even the Rainbow Bridge gone, there sure isn't much left in 'Asgard' for interest.
it even shows, she doesn't do that much "king" stuff in the movie and when she does, she's not enthusiastic about it
Still better than give up your life to become a mother.
@@CordeliaWagner Like your own mother did so you could make statements like that...
@@robfxlaserfx9335 It's also hypocritical, Disney renamed Boba Fett's ship from 'slave 1' to Firespray yet decide it's ok to go with this backstory for Valkyrie.
I miss the days when superhero movies were done seriously. They were immersive and transported you to another universe.
It went in an arc. The 90s they were still trying to figure things out. 00 and 10s is where it peaked. Now, here we are.
What days were those? Only immersive superhero movies that transported you to another universe is Bale’s Dark Knight trilogy and Tobey’s Spider-Man trilogy…
@@Yvanehtnioj2000MCU phase 1-3 though...
Not to mention Netflix Daredevil and Defenders
It's crazy that Netflix made better Marvel Series than Disney+
Just look at How far the quality gap between Daredevil and She Hulk
@@adellianaura7910 I honestly think the character acting was better than the stories in the MCU. Like Thor Ragnorok, I absolutely LOVE that movie it’s by far my favorite of the entire MCU but at the same time it has a very flat plot that wouldn’t have did so well had it not been for the amazing cast of characters. Infinity War is GOATED it’s the best film of the entire MCU but that’s it’s for me the other movie plots are so stupid and easily forgettable especially Age of Ultron and Endgame. But again this is MY opinion not shittin on the MCU but to imply the storylines were any good is a reach the only characters that had any development and good stories were Tony and Thor. And Thor’s story only gets good starting with Ragnarok and it ends in Infinity War he’s completely ruined in Endgame to make the whole movie about Tony Stark making amends and helping everyone one last time before eventually dying.
I will never understand how Disney simultaneously shoves “female empowerment” down our throats while also shoeing in the erasure of women. It’s like they’ve been screaming at the top of their lungs that women are just as strong as men, but OH NO! Don’t call any of us “Lady” or “Queen” because that’s somehow an insult. I would LOVE for someone at Disney to tell Queen Elizabeth that her title has actually meant nothing for the past 70 years, and that she should’ve just chosen the title of “King” to really command respect. Riiiiiiight. 🙄 So, I guess the message is: Men are sh*t, but also superior enough that we have to steal their titles? What a stellar lesson to teach young girls, Disney.
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The Babylonian Talmud.
Strictly speaking, "King" is a higher title than "Queen" historically, which is why a Queen Regnant (like Eliz II) has a Prince Consort for a husband. But that's just details and I agree with your point.
@@keithkannenberg7414 True, a king typically has more power than a queen, but if the queen becomes the primary ruler of a sovereign state, she becomes the Head Ruler (or Head of the State).
To be clear, I absolutely understand what you were saying and I hope I’m not coming off argumentative. I‘m just further emphasizing my point that it’s silly to try to spin the message that a queen is somehow “beneath” the title of a king when there is no king. It’s like comparing apples to oranges-an apple a day may keep the doctor away, but oranges also protect the immune system. Why be an apple when an orange has equal power?
The queen represents the Heart of a Nation. The way a King treats his Queen is a reflection of his treatment towards his people. If he treats her poorly the King is written as a Tyrant and a fiend inevitably.
Also a Queen possesses Kingly authority over those who are subject to the King. That puts most men in the Kingdom beneath her.
Leaving it at "well a King has more power than her" is a modern distortion of out culture. A will to Power isn't everything. Marvel movies don't get that today. It makes the movies so boring to watch.
If you want real heroics watch the Zatoichi films. He's the definition of Justice. He's not emasculated and is better to watch than any of the garbage we get today.
His 27 movies were made from the 60s to the 80s and are timeless classics.
The saddest part of all this (from a story telling perspective), is there’s SO MUCH great material they could be using from older comics. Incredible places, enthralling characters, nail biting story arcs, and so on. But no…we get this shit. Fuck Disney, I’m done with it.
This film is basically like a High Budget, 2Hr long "FRIENDS or The Office" episode.
Except it's unfunny and uninventive.
they'll never touch that stuff, that would require Kevin Fiege having to give credit to someone more talented than he is
i swear it hurts so bad and the first thor movie is actually pretty decent.
Yeah, but how much of that awesome stuff from the comics comes from after Disney bought Marvel? If you haven't noticed, they are just skipping everything from before that purchase so they can rush to their plot lines
I've been done with Disney for ages. Since the last Jedi. Not a huge Thor movie fan. But, it's so bad.
Screw it, I'm stopping at Endgame. Last movie of the MCU. You can't convince me otherwise.
I've been a hardcore MCU fan since it's inception. But lately i am becoming numb to it... I have reasons.
1. Each movie lacks an effective story. It's like they're making these movies for kids. MoM could've been much much more, so could Thor 4. But instead we got what we did.
2. The humor... I believe an MCU film can be very very good, even without the one liners/quips etc. It's reached a point where it feels forced/manufactured.
3. THE MESSAGE. Personally speaking, i don't know if I can survive another "both my fathers/mothers..." dialogue. It's shitty writing. A good story doesn't need to pander to socio-political agendas to be good.
I know it's a pipe dream but i hope they change their M.O
Gimme a good character, understandable motives, with gravitas, and a compelling growth arc. Not some dumb 2 dimensional comedy trope Thor + Gorr turned out to be.
What do you think about the current dc movies?
@@salmasultana6258 I think they just absolutely suck and like people are going to these movies thinking that their characters that they beloved they have vested interest in and they're not the same characters and the people writing this don't give a shit about the characters they have no love for the characters they're making a movie about they don't know crap about them and they just basically abuse the character they give no respect to their creators they give no respect to the fans they shouldn't be making these movies because these movies just absolutely suck. Absolutely suck but I could go on each and every single movie and take it to pieces from Shang Chi to Captain Marvel the eternals absolutely sucks. The Black Panther films even the first black panther film was really wasn't all that god-awful bad it was nothing like it could have been. Doctor Strange I mean just really bad. Now they did have chemicals in there of course they changed his name. The Spider-Man movie wasn't bad. Macari from the eternals was supposed to be a derivative of the Greek god Mercury a fact that completely escapes the writers of this crap. Why did they decide to change the character into a woman? And this makes sense to who exactly? The goddess hella take stores hammer and shatters it with one hand really. In mythology her parentage is Loki in the comic books her parentage is still Loki however she's much older it was a discrepancy fixed by Loki traveling through time. In the movie She's Loki's sister yeah no. And her wolf garm hell is Wolf from mythology and from the comics and no in this one it is Fenris. This is almost as bad as those X-Men movies that they can't keep the continuity straight from one movie to the next. What is wrong with these people they have writing these things? Get off your woke high horse and give some respect to the people who made a product that is entrusted to you to carry on the torch has been passed instead of you carrying that torch you're putting it in the fucking ocean. And then you're not even taking responsibility for the bullshit that you're feeding the masses. Not just are you a sickening hypocrite you stand on the backs of giants touch the sky and all you do is take a shit on their heads. You take their life's work and you take the people that are in love with their wife's work that puts you in the position where you could carry this great thing on to Greater Heights. You insult the creators that came before you insult the fan base and then you act like everybody's supposed to love everything you do when you just simply suck. One of the woman said well if you don't like what we do don't read the book okay and that's why Marvel Comics is now going bankrupt. The fans have spoken we do not like what you do you suck and not in a good way.
Yup you make good points. These movies are made for kids and tik tok. Its for content not quality. The Wednesday show is popular because of a dance. Also the main players in the mcu are dead are gone like Tony stark. Times have changed , social media has destroyed everything. The people in their 40s and 50s are the old people now. It’s just like when we were kids our parents complained about our clothes movies video games and music.
I don’t find it ironic that the *ONLY* good Thor movie didn’t have Natalie Portman/Jane in it. Thor is so much better as a character without her, that’s how you know she’s absolutely horrible, and he had more chemistry with Valkyrie in 1 movie than he’s had with Jane in about 2/3. Not to mention his bromance with Loki is far more compelling and emotional and made for the vastly superior movie so Jane and Thor seem *EXTRA* lackluster by comparison. All in all, the character needs to be sidelined for good. I *TOLD* people Thor 4 would be atrocious before it was even released simply because the plot centered around Jane. We could’ve had Asguardians of the Galaxy but for WHATEVER reasons they decided to bring Jane, the most boring, uninspiring, and insipid character, back. And not just bring her back, make her have Thor’s power with his costume and hammer to match, and be slowly killed by it. SMFH
I just hated the fact that anyone besides Thor can lift Mjölnir.
When you think about it, Thor has been through a lot - lost his parents, brother, comrades, even an entire kingdom with a huge population, for which he was responsible, but Marvel still shows him as a clown and uses him as a tool for cheap jokes!
All true, other than the population...As Asgard never seemed to have a booming populace, in that bizarre upside-down ,half a planet.
But Wanda can't be with her fake ass kids and we're all supposed to weep tears for her 😢😢😢
Taika is the worst director ever!
Actually his character hides pain through humor.
Totally agree. Thor should be practically Odin level at this point.
"In Thor: Love and Thunder, Korg mentions he has two dads, but in Thor: Ragnarok, he explicitly said that his mom and her boyfriend were the only ones to show up to his revolution." - such lazy writing, they dont even care about previous scripts when "sending the message"
Nah, cause he says the 2 males of his race hold hands over a fire and make the baby so he has no mom...none of em do apparently
@@davidburns9766 that or.............it's just lazy writing
@@davidburns9766 They aren’t even gay in the actual sense of being gay. Just like in the comics all members of the Kronan race are men and they just hold hands to reproduce lol.
They need an MCU council to reign it writers and make sure things fit together because Waititi can't keep his shit straight.
@@davidburns9766 dude Thor love and thunder established that they reproduce like dragon ball Namekians, so him saying that his mum has a boyfriend makes literally no sense.
When you played the "Odin-Thor-Loki" scene I felt really sad! What the hell did they do to the characters?! It's astonishing how they had some of the best cast and lore on earth and ended up with this mess of a movie! Gotta give props to Christian Bale for such phenomenal acting skills though.
I love how she even struggled to hold up the fake hammer during that press conference 😂😂
You know, it's awfully ironic that Disney named their streaming service "D+", because that's the best grade I would give them these days.
So true 🤣🤣
"Nail meet Thor's Hammer"
Honestly, I think I'd give them an F.
I thought he's was saying D+ as a joke to rank the movie
I think D+ is the pity grade they would get from the teacher who just wants to pass them so they won't have to see them in class again next year.
The whole "King Valkyrie" is the most problematic part of the movie. The title of "king" is not somehow more prestigious than "queen", the titles denote the sex of the monarch. And to be clear, a monarch is the one who reigns. You can have a king with a queen consort, or you can have a queen with a king consort. By choosing the title of "king", Valkyrie is putting down the title of queen for absolutely no reason. Worse, it implies Valkyrie doesn't understand the meaning behind the title at all, wearing it like one would a costume. By implying king to be a superior title, it also implies queen is an inferior title.
There's a real historic precedent for a female sovereign using the title King (actually the polish version of it) rather than queen to emphasize that she was actually the ruler, not just the consort of the ruler.
So that makes sense more or less.
But valkyrie doesn't deserve the title. She's a traitor and deserves a dungron cell. Or an execution - depending on how harsh asgardian laws for treason are.
So Marvel meant that Queen Elizabeth from Britain, is inferior then ......
Disney thought they were being clever and putting down the patriarchy with that.
Because in the modern feminist mind anything men have is inherently better than what women have because "patriarchy". They cannot comprehend the notion of actual equality and only see legitimacy in male endeavors.
Screw these companies, they hate us
The fact that the writing team for Thor L&T didn't have the collective talent to name the ice cream shop "Infinity scones" shows just what caliber of writers we are dealing with.
I hate Disney. They should just make their own landfill company with the amount of garbage they turn out these days.
Taika's arrogance and self importance is so off the charts that he really deserves some massive failure to bring him down to earth.
Sadly, he's of the right kind, and ticks far too many boxes, so there's no way they'll get rid of him. People in the club have to stick together and give each other handouts, after all...
His failure likely will be his Star Wars movie
I've never seen "JoJo Rabbit."
@@scottjoseph9578 It's just a rabbit
@@chrisl3336 Thor
Disney 101: Hire a man to direct modern-day mythology who is openly advocating for the destruction of mythology
results will not surprise you
Like hiring a extreme vegan to revamp texas roadhouse.
@@mrcliff3709 Or hiring men who think Star Wars is silly to direct the newest SW trilogy.
@@apocryphicdeath yep that too
Who?
Thor is a strong ,straight,white male character and Disney/ Marvel hates that.
It's the same with Doc Strange.
He was a secondary character in his own movie.
They hate what they refer to as TOXIC MASCULINITY THIS IS THE MESSAGE THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR A WHILE NOW.
I would really like to know the thoughts of female comic collectors of the late 80s to early 90s on how they feel how this MCUniverse is headed
All none of them🤣🤔
I don't read much comics and the ones I mostly read were X-Men but I have an older brother & some friends that have and disappointment abounds.
I'm glad that I didn't actually watch this movie, just reading about it and watching this video helped me make up my mind.
I heeded the warning of the impending onslaught of the M-She-U and didn't even pay to watch Endgame. I got the seven day free trial, watched endgame then immediately canceled it. I haven't been so happy to give all Marvel movies a hard pass since.
10:27 THANK YOU. I don’t want my daughters and nieces believing the only way to be a strong woman is to be a man. That’s not feminism. That’s a bizarre form of sexism.
Well said👌
Remember how strong hella was?
Tell them the truth there is no way to be a strong woman. Just be a woman. Women aren't needed for strength and have other qualities that are needed.
That's exactly what feminism is. If you want the ultimate strength of a woman, try the Holy Mother of God. a young woman who held the immeasurable God in her womb and gave him his humanity through her.
She's not only considered the perfection of all humanity but she's also a slayer of demons and demonic ideologies like Feminism.
I thought the whole point of feminism is that woman are capable and strong AS WOMAN. but turns out their idea of a strong woman is to be more like men, kinda ironic.
These actors will soon start to feel embarrassed for their participation in these films. It may take a few years, but it'll come.
Indeed.
If Chris H. does not drink himself to sleep over Ghostbusters 2016, then I think the bags of money is making up for it. It is not as if they are Daniel Day Lewis. Though I can see Bale changing agents soon.
Yeah I’m sure that they’ll feel embarrassed for taking millions of dollars to make a movie that you paid to watch.
Just like any actor that was in a lot of other great films just to be in shittier films in the future. The Rock in Tooth Fairy, Ice Cube in Are We There Yet, Adam Sandler in Jack and Jill etc
Like ex Nickelodeon teens
I hear Taiki Watiki will write and direct Black Panther 3. I wonder if he'll do the whole gold chains and "flicking" thing with Black Panther?
You did a great job breaking it all down and verbalizing all the defects and problems into a coherent and to-the-point video: one of the best examples is how you trace Thor's arc from the 1st 3 Thor movies down to the Infinity Gauntlet movies...and yes, a lot of this came off as cheap, token references to previously far more meaningful content. It's really sad to see how far it's gone down.
I am not saying I've stopped watching Marvel movies... But I sure as hell have stopped paying for these rushed, message filled tropes.
It’s happening. I missed most of them in phase 4. Doc Strange was ridiculed for being a bad boyfriend and Thor gets the same treatment. Plus being the God of Dumb and Thunder.
Same. I still watch a few of them, and every time (No Way Home excluded) I tell myself I'm glad I didn't pay to watch that crap.
Dr. Stange was particularly generic and dumb. Not sure I'll even bother with Love & Thunder. Ragnarok was terrible.
I stopped watching every movie after the first Avengers film. I would watch a few of the movies as they came out (never in theaters) if they seemed interesting. But I lost total interest and couldn't get through civil war or black panther. I just didn't care anymore. Nothing in the movies felt new or interesting. The formula was the same and there were no stakes.
The problem is the writers / directors do not have any good story and just want to do something with characters. MUC now is telling stories badly, like we all understand how lonely Wanda is but MCU made us to hate her by showing her feelings in wrong way or making captain marvel a godlike woman with zero emotions. They now focus on lgbt, feminist and colors more than giving us a good well written stories and characters.
The only one I paid to see was Spiderman. I think the only other movie I watched was Shang-chi on Disney+. As for the shows, I've only seen Loki.
What i hated the most was Gorr's character was presented too fast. Especially when Thor discovers the corpses of who Gorr killed. In the comics, Thor finding dead gods one by one was one the most chilling and memorable thing in that story. But instead they find it all out in a couple of screen swipes🤦
That’s an amazing idea! Can you imagine if they came across a couple of Gods that had been killed and it would slowly cause dread for Thor and his team? That would’ve been strong storytelling but we were spoon fed it 🫠
Yup the story arc was great. If I recall correctly Thor almost getting killed back in the 1700 or 1800s in a first encounter with this mysterious malevolent entity then meeting Gor again in present day after following the trail of dead gods across the realms. Being one step behind while the body count piles up. So much potential in a story line. Instead we get this movie.
Absolutely agree with you
I think Disney forced edits. The buried context of Gorr's tale is his realization that all religions are a lie. Taika Waititi is known to be an atheist as well as the original Gorr comic book creator, Jason Aaron. I don't think Disney wanted to have that controversy in the shadow of the LGBTQ rights pushback. The argument that organized religion is an irrational pursuit of one's limited lifetime is one hell of a fight to open up for discussion.
I will definitely read the comics sometime, from the comments I've seen it sounds like Gorr's story is pretty incredible
The "Female Thor" at the end cracked me up. I'm glad I waited to the last second.
After over a decade of story and character progression, I'm actually now missing Branagh's Thor.
Thor should be treated like the badass he is. He's one of the strongest characters in the MCU, but instead we get this garbage. They disrespected him enough in Endgame but now the hits just keep on coming!
Same with Storm and Rogue.
They seem to want to break into comedy now.. I can't even watch this character anymore. And what's up with Portman's oddly placed shirt cutouts - 😦😬
Marvel said they are going to make more Gay themed Films like Thor love and Thunder this Dumpster Fire is just the beginning, I'm out.
Thodi respected him more than fucker endgame. You are delusional
Did you really expect something else? I’m so glad I’ve barely seen the MCU. It must suck to see something great get destroyed bit by bit. It happens with every other character. I’ve never seen Disney Star Wars either. The Incredibles 2 was enough for me. It was essentially a Mrs. Incredible solo movie and the male became an idiot.
I'm surprised that the Norwegians haven't accused Marvel of "Cultural Appropriation" for taking their Norwegian mythology and distorting it to fit Marvel's agenda.
I've talked with some of them on youtube, they say they don't care. Enough character assassination has been done of their deity. Initially they were hopeful, but seeing a comedian thor made them change their mind
you know Sweden were the last Pagans long after Norway and denmark turned christians. Don't call it the "Norwegian mythology" the disrespect lol
White culture is up for grabs mind this is partly cause it was adopted globally..
lol, it's far from just Norwegians.. it's Danes, Swedes, Finns, Germans, Icelanders, Faroese, Greenlanders, North Americans and more.
We don't bother with ridiculous accusations of cultural appropriation. We understand full well that the gods of old are characters of myth. Everyone tells different tales of the gods, their powers, their adventures, and so on. I've loved Marvel since I was a boy because they chose to use the gods we were told stories about as children and turned them into superheroes for newer generations to love and enjoy. It's an extension of our culture and an appreciation of our heritage made modern for broader audiences to learn about and enjoy. I highly suggest reading the Icelandic Eddas and Sagas! They're amazing and everyone interested should check them out!
The stories are Christian adaptations of pagan stories, for the most part. Which is why Loki gets associated with the Devil; the monks who wrote the stories down had a very specific framework they wanted the story to fit in. That the bodges they wrote are enjoyable says a lot about how much better they were at storytelling than the modern zealots.
Point is, most of Norse mythology is several layers removed from any Scandinavian culture.
As far as I can see being a comic book reader, the problem with the MCU is that they blend stories together which has become unnerving to comic book readers. It’s obvious as you stated in your video that this was Disney’s intention all along. They have succeeded in single-handedly making the marvel universe into a joke. Thor and the Incredible Hulk are my two favorite heroes and now they are an afterthought movie wise because of the masculinity they represent. The Jane Foster “Thor” run in the comics was masterfully done IMO because of Odinson being unworthy at the time plus the way Mjolnir responded to Jane Foster differently than Thor because the cosmic storm locked inside of the uru metal by Odin’s enchantment was female as explained in that story and the Mangog angle was brilliant which came back around in Donny Cates’ current Thor run: God of Hammers. The story of Gorr the God butcher was butchered! In fact the story of Asgard on earth in Broxton Oklahoma was butchered by comic book standards as well. These movies are more for the casual fan and children more than anything now and I don’t see it getting any better going forward. Thor has never handled Stormbreaker in the comics anyway, that’s Beta Ray Bill’s weapon. If they gave Thor his original weapon Jarnbjorn, it might’ve made for a much darker toned film which is what Thor should be anyway but what do I know I I’ve read comics since the 70’s!
As long as people keep buying tickets to watch these subpar movies, they will continue making them. The director for this film would not be saying he will ruin the mythos if he didn't have revenue coming his way. Everyone out there wanting to stop seeing these films be release just simply need to stop buying tickets and let them flop.
Infinity War proved that Hemsworth has the chops to take an over-the-top concept like Thor and perfectly balance the humor and the heartbreak. Those scenes with him and Rocket talking about the stakes of Thor’s mission (immediately following a pinkeye joke concerning his new fake eye) are so so good. His epic hero moment at the Battle of Wakanda? Legend. And now reduced to a dumb clown incapable of doing anything on his own?
Thanks, Disney. Thanks so much for that. Enjoy your dwindling returns, and let the fan blaming kick into high gear.
Yeah, i agree. They should have made Thor darker and more serious in Endgame. He should have been an overprotective King, and married to Lady Sif. Then in the 4th film he has children of his own, and has to deal with Gorr.
The Thor in love and thunder is like the puppy we first met instead of who Thor should be by now with all his loved ones dying on him
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Nah - the powerhouse role in Endgame had to land on Captain Marvel. Take that paunch, patriarchy.
@@martinportelance138 I never really understood their rush to introduce her. Everything she did could have been done by someone else. Saving Tony, he should have just saved himself. Blasting through ships, Thor did the same in Infinity War. Holding her own against Thanos, again Thor did pretty good against him with the little time they interacted in Infinity War. Or they could have had Hulk slowly losing control over the movie, and Hulk out(World War Hulk style) and rematch Thanos.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp They had to shoehorn her in because Wonder Woman was a huge success. Marvel needed a strong Female hero with her own movie.
0:34: I can't believe Chris Hemsworth actually thought saying "Thor: Love and Thunder is the film a 7 year old would make" is a compliment. That's about the worst thing you can say about a film.
that was meant to be a complement i thought it was an insult
@@Canlass It very well might be.
Not a 7 year old would make, a 7 year old boy or girl would be smart enough to know not to make a movie like this, only a complete stupid fucking moron would make. Boycott Disney and all that they own, cancel D+ subscription and hurt them in the pocket book, Tis the only way we can truly say enough is enough!
God, i hope it is him slipping an insult in, masking it as a compliment to get it past stupid people.
Maybe he was saying purely as a dig back at them for writing his character so poorly. Maybe he wanted a lot of things to be written as though by MORE than a mere 7 year old.
I'm a old Gen-X and grew up reading comic books and yes, I'm one of those guys who started collecting comic books in the mid 70's and my collection was way above average back then and even more so by today's market. It contained many early 60's to late 60's and so on with around 4000 to 5000 comic books and all 1st and direct print editions with some specifics issues I hunted down through the decades with many hundreds at least worth a 1000 times their weight in gold. I said "I had" because I passed it on to my son as a family heirloom in 2012 when he came of age. Of course the jewel of my collection was/is "Journey into Mystery #83 graded 9.4 by CGC" which was the comic book that got me hooked on THOR right there and then when I was old enough to read. Of course that comic book wasn't a collectible item as it was I don't know how many reprints it was. But when I came of age and had the means, I hunted them all down, any direct 1st print editions.
I am a Marvel purist and especially when it comes down to THOR and I can recount almost every runs/story lines off the top of my head and can point you to the right books for the facts you're looking for and/or specific story lines by just you giving me a hint about what you're looking for. From the origins even to this day with the Donny Cates run going on right now. So, that's enough for setting up the context on how and why I know what I am talking about when it comes to the Marvel character of THOR and as to why I hated this movie so much.
The character of THOR appeared in a total of 8 MCU movies including 4 of his own. Again, being that THOR made the majority of my golden eggs among my collection and the most complete above all other Marvel/DC various character runs. Seeing how the MCU portrayed THOR in the MCU is heartbreaking and It pains me to see kids (young millennials and Gen-Z) these days not knowing their Marvel characters other than what the MCU/Kevin Feige feeds/tells them in their movies and they never picked up a comic book in their lives. The MCU completely destroyed and retcon the Marvel character of THOR. They made him a buffoon, a comic relief, a dumba$$, weakling, a dimwit and totally nerfed him power and abilities wise. The MCU character is night and day from the comic book version. THOR Ragnarok, Avengers: End Game and now this latest THOR love and thunder movie, have completely made a mockery of the great Marvel character of THOR.
Taika Waititi directed the two worse films of THOR and this man should never come within a thousand yards of anything THOR related future projects. This THOR Love And Thunder is a big joke from start to finish and it pains me to see one of Stan Lee's greatest characters used in such ways that he must be rolling in his grave right now. Me who thought that no new THOR movie could ever be as bad or worse than THOR: Ragnarok, then Taika Waititi comes along, proves me wrong and surpasses himself by directing his second piece of sh*t THOR movie.
Katherine Kennedy destroyed "Star Wars" and "Luke Skywalker", so much so that this hit Disney hard. And now, they are letting this happen again by having bad writers and even worse directors. Katherine Kennedy was/is the doom of "Star Wars". While "Kevin Feige is turning into Katherine Kennedy" and "Taika Waititi" is the "Rian Johnson" version of Marvel. You want to know who the real Marvel Thor is, pick up a few comic books from the golden age up till the Donny Cates run going on right now, That's the real Thor, King and All-Father of Asgard.
I guess you can say Odin mentioned something about his power before his death. When he told him his hammer was destroyed his response was the hammer was to help tap into his power. He wasn't the God of hammers but had power inside him.
The second I heard that Natalie Portman was getting the hammer I knew this was gonna be a woke disaster. How could it not be? She’s like what? Four feet tall and about 70 pounds soaking wet? And then they treat the star of the Franchise, the actual guy called Thor, like a running joke throughout the entire movie. This movie was just a studio approved “bash the men” project.
But she must be his "equal" in strength at all cost becsuse she is a woman despite the fact that Chris Hemsworth is like twice her size and thor is a god with thousands of years of experience while jane got powers for 2 minutes and she's somehow automatically as powerful as the og thor.
@@shadowsmith841 someone doesn’t like comics ..
@@bobbyhulll8737 are you saying lady thor is better than thor in comics? 🤦🤦
@@shadowsmith841 no I’m saying it was a story line on the comics as much as Thor becoming a Frog .. it’s a comic FFS anything can happen and anything can be reconned or redone or whatever .. it’s not a serious thing that needs to be dissected . There are many runs of Thor and every other character some you may like some you may not ..
But Nath actually got buffed she has nice muscles in the movie she looks good...but yea she was good a bit too fast with her power it's like she knew everything already.
I love it. Jane getting the hammer and calling herself Thor is like Pepper Potts putting on an ironman suit and calling herself Tony Stark.
Identity crisis & identity theft.
Mighty Tony
@@RisingUnderdog Mighty shit
She calls herself Jane Foster in the climax while fighting Gorr
Oh wait
I just watched The Northman and then clicked on this review, which is sort of like eating a 5-star meal and then walking past some guy on the sidewalk screaming at you to buy his 50-cent tacos filled with animal feces.
Zeus always was a douchebag, even in Greek Mythology. That was even before Disney “took over this franchise” as you put it.
To think that, at one time, my year would center around these movies and their releases. I would count down the days and HAD to be there for opening night. Now, I didn’t even know this had already been released. It’s so sad what agenda can do to beloved characters.
So true!!!
I agree, that has been my experience, they lost me 4 years ago, Disney just sucks.
They want you to be like this - it's why they're doing it. It's not for us anymore, they have a target audience to indo ctrin ate
What I really don't get is why again and again they're doing this. They are abvioisly not idiots who don't understand the public reaction. Be it through revenue or be it through thousands of Yt reviews or tweets calling them out on killing thier characters. Why are they not changing thier ways? Why kill your own buisness? I get it, even if they think it was worth a try to see wheather including wokeness works or not, then also, they've had thier trial run for years now. Never did it work. What the hell are they thinking?
Me too
Looking back you realize how well Thor was portrayed in the first Thor movie and the first Avenger movie. We wont see a better
version of Thor than Infinity War when he was serious, driven and a focused on taking out Thanos whatever it takes.
Now hes just treated like a clown and only there for comic relief!
Some ppl on internet are still rooting for the comedic thor. For gods sake, don't these ppl learn that disney has taken the essence of the character
Yep, Thor 1, Avengers 1 and Infinity War are Thor's trilogy in my mind. They're perfectly cohesive if you accept that the events of Ragnarok happened off screen lol
@@sivad1025 Agreed. Also, to me, Infinity War Thor was the standout character in that movie. That's saying a lot seeing all the other characters there. He's one of the strongest characters in the MCU, he should be treated as such.
Thor should be treated like the badass he is. He's one of the strongest characters in the MCU and instead we get this garbage. I guess they didn't disrespect him enough in Endgame.
Infinity war was the best marvel film by a country mile. Everything after sucked
“Deconstructed Thor.”
That word has 0 meaning when you use it.
You don’t know what it means.
This needed to be a more serious movie.
Odin is dead.
Rebuilding Asgard on Earth doesn't work.
Thor should be tired, but tired of meaninglessness. He has to seek to rebuild a new kingdom somewhere in the universe, and make his father proud.
He needed to be done being childish and needed to become a more serious actual leader.
This is how he discovers new abilities. How to grant power to others. Etc.
This was Thor's opportunity to learn how to be more than just muscle and brawn. He could become more strategic, wiser, more oriented to magic and control of his powers. An enhanced Thor who doesn't rely on strength, but actual power.
And yet, secretly, off-screen, Gorr could develop as a looming threat because gods turn up dead everywhere, and no one actually knows why.
So the arch for Thor is to discover his inner Odin, and beginning to search for a real, official, majestic and respected new Asgard. At the same time, Gorr looms as a thread.
It's time for Thor to take his place as Odin. That's the arc.
And his love interest would have been the first person he is able to embue with power, but the cancer is inevitable. Her death makes him really mature. Female Thor should have died SO quickly into the movie.
Instead, they made him a dumb, ridiculous bro who now cares for a child.
So much could have been cut. And Christian Bale should have been kept as a Thanos figure, who kills gods left and right. He could have shown his growing strength killing amazing looking gods, showing that a fight against Thor could turn up deadly.
Dammit! There was so much that could have been done differently, and yet we ended up with crap. 😖
A god that just happens to be standing beside a god killing sword...
A hammer that Odin says only focuses Thor's power, and has none of it's own, yet gives Jane all Thor's powers anyway. I guess Taika forgot he made the last movie...
A hammer that gets much more powerful/useful after it is broken, and fixes itself years later when it could have helped with the next point...
Thor could not be bothered to stop Thanos before he snapped away the entire Universe (including Eternity itself)...
Jane stole his armor style and color as well...
Now this is where I'm confused. I thought Mjolnir had the power and Thor was the conduit.
The hammer as you say focus Thor's powers, but it can also bestow the power of Thor to anyone who's worthy, so unconsciously Thor will power up anyone worthy that lifts the hammer, that's what happened to Captain America.
The hammer got stronger because Thor himself got stronger, we never actually saw if Thor ever tried to wield the hammer after it was broken...
Jane "stole" the armour, I don't know if the armour is somehow linked to Thor or if maybe he can conjure any armour he imagines and if that's the case, if Jane wanted a armour to fight probably the first idea would come to mind would be the first time she saw Thor powering up so it's only natural that the armour is similar...
Why are you putting so much effort analysing it when the makers didn't put while making it.
@@Mridul.S lol
“Whosoever holds this hammer, if they be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.” - Jane did
In Ragnarok he understands he is a god of thunder who uses the hammer to boost his powers.
In Thor 1, he had his powers but didnt know that.
Do you understand it now?
When you think about what Thor has lost like it makes wandas yearning for her kids seem juvenile because imo he is the most shit on character in marvel right now. Lost his home, his brother who he just reconciled with, lost his father, lost his mother at a young age, and countless numbers of his people have died and yet they still treat his movies like comedies. Thor should be a deep character study not a comedy with how they've developed his character.
They made him get an eating disorder which was turned into a comedy angle.
I don't know if "juvenile" is the word I'd go with, but that could be because I'm mother too. If I woke up today and realized my children had been a dream the whole time, I would need a LOT of therapy. It would wreck me.
*That said* I completely agree that the producers/writers/directors seem to have zero empathy for Thor's journey, which as you illustrated is full of serious tragedy. And I don't think if a female character went through all that, that she would be treated like a joke. My piece.
@@CJ-hx9du
I wouldn't say it was an eating disorder, but depression eating. He was responsible for the extinction of half the sentient life in the entire universe. I would think he'd be entitled to a little bit of depression.
@@jovenc4508 Point is, they shouldn't have turned it into a comedy angle.
@@CJ-hx9du
I can kind of see why they did, hide the pain with humor, they just went too far with it.
Odin might be a bad father but was a great king
Let's have a moment of Silence for the MCU: May 2, 2008 -- Apr 26, 2019... Rest In Pieace
This movie is afraid to take itself seriously, it undercut every emotional scene with cheep humor
You just described all of new Marvel pretty much.
Thor was a hopeless clown.
Zeus was a pathetic clown.
The “bolt” weapon was a joke.
Gorr was anemic.
The plot evaporated into stupidity.
And the goddamn goats were annoying af.
i told you not to pay to go see it. oh well. next time
The goats were the best part.
Many ppl defending on the zeus part, I'd like to say mcu zeus didn't have to be mythology accurate. Snyder Cut Zeus was a badass even for 15 seconds, why can't disney do the same with a LEGENDARY actor like Russel Crowe
@@carlitosbro neither in marvel comics nor in norse mythology were those goats like that
I wish I could give you 10 thumbs up
Not to mention the fact that Natalie Portman looked disinterested. She genuinely looked like she didn't want to be there, but for the money.
There was a time she dipped out of the MCU because they didn't give her time off to care for her new baby, and they fired a _female_ director *she* picked for The Dark World. For the 1st issue, the MCU movie timeline was on a set schedule, and they couldn't move their booked shootings, hired crew, equipment, and literally the DIRECTORS AND ENTIRE OTHER CAST for just one person who wasn't the lead. For the 2nd issue, this was before "the future is female" Phase Bore of the MCU, and whoever was ACTUALLY in charge had the right to hire and fire directors, so it's my understanding that they weren't exactly asking for Portman's input on the matter. She's very self-righteous and deluded, and poor Chris Hemsworth even admitted he went vegan for the day of their kissing scene. The woman thinks way too highly of herself.
Addendum: if it was a medical emergency, that would be one thing, but it wasn't.
Dude, what's your microphone signal chain? It always sounds so good. Cheers.
Kevin Feige is running the entire franchise to the ground, All because he wants to impress the wrong type of "people" that don't buy nor care about any of these things
You're a fool
THIS RIGHT HERE!! THIS COMMENT IS PERFECT ANALYSIS OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH MARVEL IN A NUTSHELL!! BRAVO! FIRE KEVIN FEIGE & KEEP TAKAI WITI FAAAAAAR AWAY FROM A MARVEL MOVIE!!! SICK OF KORG! HATE THAT ANNOYING GAY ASS CHARACTER!
These people just want everything in existence to be LGBTQIA+++ cranked up to 11, they don't care to be involved or pay to see it, they just demand it be that way, because demanding is free, complaining on social media is free, and ruining peoples live who don't agree is also free
Yep. It was execs such as Ike Perlmutter that was keeping Feige on a leash all those years of building MCU greatness. Now, Feige is unleashed and is a disaster.
*has run
it's already fiat accompli. The MCU is basically beyond salvage at this point, there is nothing left with any consequences
"Does anyone in the MCU have sons anymore" ? Lol, great question.
And as your video pointed out at the end, looks like the directors threat was actually a promise
Hawkeye
No, they're all transitioning.
Inthepreviousmarvelmovie Wanda had 2 sons...
@@sapphiro fake make believe sons don’t count.
They HAD some then brought them for a sex change
thanks for explaining the end.. i tried to watch the full movie but halfway through gave up and tabbed to find an interesting part... didn't find one.... so so glad I didn't fully watch this as it was worse than I thought....
impressive... disney seems to ignore the feedback as I guess that made so much money from some earlier films they can afford to put out some terrible ones.. i guess... when will this end?
MCU: King Valkyrie because King is a higher title than Queen.
Queen Elizabeth II of The United Kingdom: Am I a joke to you?
Nerdrotic is becoming an icon in our corner of the internet
Becoming? He is there baby!
Is it the crybaby corner of the Internet?
Yes woke trash sucks AMD they overdid it in etwernals, but since then, strange 2 and this Thor where awesome.
But if there is 1 Minute of woke bs u cant enjoy a 2 hour movie. Sad
@@RealEvilLordExdeath bruh.....just say you like trash strange 2 was trash strange 2 was basically Wanda get the fuck over it already carried over from wandavision a story so stupid it should've died in the show. Like bruh please phase 4 is not that interesting and it's going in all directions my dude. Like ok you don't like clear storytelling no problem.
@@RealEvilLordExdeath Lol, you can like garbage, it's okay. Don't project so hard though.
@@RealEvilLordExdeath It's OK to like Trash don't worry
If someone is fighting you while your trying to save them from drowning its better to let them go so one of you can survive. That is what we need to do to Disney
I would hope people can cut the cord. I did, no more D+ for me
ya am already pushing them under with an oar fk saving them lol
yes......though I say we need to go one step further and pile on the stones so they sink faster......
what was it Deckard said?? ahh yes, if they're a benefit then they aren't my problem and Disney is a great threat......
Elden Tyrell: is this to be an empathy test??.....
lolz you can call me highly Anti-Disney lol
@@chrisjohnson3967 canceled my subscription last week.
@@darthXreven Can you really pile the stones on them faster than they're doing to themselves already?
Thor went from having a badass entry to Wakanda to becoming a comic relief goofball. SMH.
for a movie whose villain is called the god butcherer who has a plan to kill all gods
there was no sense of dread or danger as whole and that's just sad
Nathalie Portman’s body language says it all. When asked about it being the gayest movie in the MCU, she turns her face to the side when she answers the interviewer. You can tell she wasn’t expecting that question and looked a bit uncomfortable while she momentarily struggled to find the right words. If she had said anything negative about it, she would’ve absolutely been “cancelled.”
Don't be fooled - Natalie full on supports all of it. She is part of the problem not the solution.
She should have replied No, but this is the gayest interview I have done.
how is representation a problem in movies…
Representation becomes a problem when a good strong and beloved character like Thor is undermined and marginalized in his own movie in order to prop up the represented characters.
What’s most upsetting about this movie is they had everything they needed to make a great movie, even with the inclusion of “mighty thor”
Yep - but then how would the director get to make endless misplaced lame jokes every 2 minutes.
This film was fine in most ways, but not great. Hoping the next film gives us Hercules, Ares, and Beta Ray Bill tho.
BTW nerdrotic, Star Trek Strange New Worlds doesn’t suck.
The movie was fantastic you expect so much
Female Thor. That's what she is. Nothing else. Her purpose was to only push Disney's agenda
@@mattwalsh7853 Just wondering what your favorite kool aid is ?
I don't think drama is needed in any type of storytelling one of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard in my life
I watched Thor 1 so much I literally knew that whole clip at 3:36. Thor is in my top 3 and they made him just a joke.
What a surprise that one of the most unpopular Marvel ideas in the comics turned out to be incredibly unpopular in film too.
It made 300 million dollars
Is this what the world has come to. 300 million dollars is "unpopular"...
@@chalkywhite2598 No, it _sold $300M worth of tickets._ Subtract from that the theaters' cuts of ticket prices (about half), the production budget (250M), and the marketing budget (100M+). That means love and blunder is still a loss. It has to make about 700 million just to break even.
@@tomatoesauce8605 people who say dumb shit look and sound ridiculous
@@jacobnebel7282 what kind of dumb ass math is that. No film has to make 700 million dollars to break even. If that was the case the MCU would have died after the first Captain America. It cost 200 million and made 375 million. Was captain America first avenger a flop?
It felt super clear Hemsworth is tired of the role after RDJ and Evans have moved on. Wouldn’t be surprised if we just silently never see him again.
" Hemsworth is tired of the role" Hemsworth literally said as long as they want him he will stay. If he's tired of the role, he can just like...stop.
"If I want drama, I'll just remember something from my life."
That made me smile so much. Not sure why - but it just sounded so great!
SUPERHERO FILMS HAVE BEEN CHICK FLICKS SINCE ‘89..that’s when in Tim Burton’s BATMAN , Alfred, Bruce Wayne’s loyal and trustworthy butler, decides to brings some broad that Bruce had been dating for 2 minutes down into the bat cave and revealed Wayne’s secret identity..in fact, in practically EVERY one of the pre Christian Bale Batman movies, the woman that he’s seeing is told his secret identity..because, I guess, men aren’t supposed to keep secrets from women, right?!
I want Mel Gibson's Apocalypto to be full of blonde haired, blue-eyed characters portraying the Mayans, wouldn't that be cool? Let's just totally change history and give them guns to them while we're at it. They can fight the Spanish conquistadors and win change the whole outlook of the Americas.
And have them throw coffee into the Gulf of Mexico. 🤣
I can't wait for Ryan Gosling to play MLK or Nick Cage to play George Floyd. Actually, Nick Cage would be amazing as George Floyd.
@@punishedmatteson7108 boooo bad comment. Makes no fucking sense… try again brother 😂
Modern Apocalypto would only be green lighted if the cast is only Blacks and gays.
@@i.4693 Nick Cage would make an amazing George Flyod.
I couldn’t stop thinking Taika Watiti’s ” I will ruin your mythos in a minute, baby.” Comment when watching this film. Axl or Astrid, Heimdall’s son has a womans name and it is called ”a tough viking name” by Thor and it bugged me so much ( in addition to pretty much everything in the deciption asgardians). Astrid means a beautiful goddes or devine beautiful, not a name for a tough viking for sure, but also female name given to girls even in modern days. Such lack of respect or research just leaves a feeling that Watiti really kinda wants to ruin the mythos and has no respect for scandinavian culture. Especially when put together with everything else in the film and the comment. Also since when asgardians refer to themselves as space Vikings.
Mate he literally did that to a T. He was absolutely determined to do it, the prick.
I noticed that, but considering Heimdall was supposed to be the "Whitest skinned of the gods", him having a boy with a girl's name doesn't really matter anymore.
Cringiest line in this movie was "Eat my Hammer 🔨!"
🤨 *Vibe Boom sound effect*
Another thing that nobody talks about is the stupid profetic message of Stormbreaker being able to open the Bifrost. How is this possible if the axe didn't exist till Thanos arrived? Who in hell traveled almost to the end of the universe to write about Thor's axe in a tent? It had to be someone who saw Thor open the Bifrost so which Avenger or Guardian of the Galaxy did this?
I really like Watiki’s “What we do in the shadows”. That said they should’ve never let him direct a massive super hero movie. Not his lane at all.
Ragnarok was ok.
@@jasonmellone8902 ragnarok was ok for a sitcom...
@@benjaminroque1981 I'm really starting to think I should rewatch the first two Thor movies. I recall listing those on the lower end of the MCU films (for the first three phases anyway), but I liked Ragnarok best. This is despite the film having a weird tone and Thor going in and out of character, between acting like "Thor" and "Chris Hemsworth goofing around."
He's great at comedy, see JoJo Rabbit and Wellington Paranormal as examples.
@@GameBeatenakaKevinS funnily i disliked ragnarok, esp dr benner, his smile was just wrong in that cgi.
as a Marvel fan since the 90's i am disgusted by the way they are doing these beloved characters just so they can introduce their personal agenda
"Where's the money, Sonny!?"
This reminds me when back in the late 90s they hired another “fruity” director to direct Batman and Robin(Batman5?) and it turned out similar to this to being and over-the-topSuperHomosexualied-fruitastic-TaikiWaikiti-titty-Jizz-Fest, with no respect for the original characters and lore.
10:36 "do you feel empowered women?" 🤣
Ugh, Thor imbues his power to the ethnically diverse children of Norse mythology. I've never seem such a meta "YOU kids watching this can be the hero too, regardless of how you look or what you identify as." How about no? I'm sick of this sort of self referential shit, from Darcy being a fan of the avengers, to Kamala being a fan of the Avengers, and then seeing all the general public squeeing over the Avengers in each new product. I want to see heroes, not people idolising heroes.
Asgard has to have diversity, BUT not Wakanda!!!! no!! that is not racist. i guess. Cuz norse mythoolgy has chinese, black, and indian ppl. but WAKANDA better not have that
Nothing says Nordic like black kids…
Didn't you know, anything all white- even history is racist and evil and must be given "diversity".
Its a marvel comic F all this ethic crap you know thats not important if this was the northman a pretty decent film sure you got a point, but when did we have time travel machines, aliens & robot gods in norse mythology if you can let that slide who cares.
@@dontgiveinfo Was wakana in the middle of africa or was it in a different plane/dimension? thats a stupid point. Secondly on that topic this fantasy asgard is now accesible to anyone, secondly Heimdall was black in the first film like a decade+ ago you still going to be bitch whining 20 years from now? If the BP sequel has every single color living in wakanda your still going to be bitching.
4:55 - when they referred to the warriors 3 as "that guy" I was genuinely upset. these were Thor's closest friends and allies, just to be written off like that. so lazy and disrespectful for no reason
6:20 - it was painfully annoying that as soon as they decide to go to omnipotent city, there just happens to be a giant council of the Gods happening?? like.. what? mighty convenient?
7:43 - Valkyrie should have died here! fight scenes mean nothing if no one can be hurt or die from them.
I do find it odd that Gary didn't mention the fact they actually sacrificed Natalie Portman's character instead of just having Thor pass the mantle onto her permanently. He was worried about that in a previous video, and predicted that's what would happen. I for one am glad to hear they had the balls to kill her. Woman rarely physically sacrifice themselves in superhero movies anymore, because it makes them look "weak" (newsflash: no it doesn't).
@@KevvoLightswift the sacrifice was messy IMO. We aren't given details what the cancer is doing and whether it is reversible. It was left very vague. Why does Mjolnir call out to her under the pretext of looking after her if using the hammer just kills her quicker? Doesn't that contradict the enchantment? Also why wasn't Thor able to put together the hammer anyways as it shows that he's still worthy.
All these issues could have easily be solved if they spent a day trying to figure out how to convey some logic in their writing.
@@IBLIZA23 I believe the reason why thor didn't go back for mjiolnir because he needed a "thanos killing" weapon which mjiolnir wasn't. An axe is better for killing than a hammer is in every way. And we already saw mjiolnir is only able to stun thanos it doesn't do any visible damage. SB on the other hand is able to cut him. Also he probably thought mjiolnir is gone since it's broken it was definitely lying there useless when hela broke it (until Jane magically brought it back) . So that makes sense.
Other than I agree with you
Yeah, where were all of these 'gods' when Thanos was running rampant?
With the articles of vfx artists being mistreated by Disney cranking out these movies and shows it’s no wonder Gorr doesn’t look like he does in the comics. Some artist would suffer even more to cgi him (could do practical effects but this is Disney marvel).
We should have a petition for TW to NEVER direct or write another Thor!! For those of you that are contemplating seeing it: Save your money!! If you like comedy and childlike simplicity then this is for you. (It's Disney folks) Visual Effects, (previous to fighting Gor the screen goes b/w...that was nice!) Chris, Bale, Portman are great tho! Sometimes and only sometimes directors should NEVER write the film....(btw I saw the @ show Wednesday morning. I was the ONLY one in the entire theatre!)
5 years ago I was a literal superfan for the mcu, I saw every one of them in theater upon release, they were always super entertaining movies. Disney has taken all of that magic away from the mcu and replaced it with girl power, diversity hires and thier gay agenda. 5 years ago a superfan, today I couldnt be less interested. The Hawkeye series was the final nail in the coffin for me, I haven't watched anything mcu (aside from no way home, go figure) since and don't plan to unless its the endlessly rewatchable paramount mcu movies.
I agree, the world has gone girl power, not just mcu, the dceu has gone woke too
Thor “love is love”
Why was the Hawkeye series the final nail in the coffin? All it did was introduce Kate Bishop, who was already a character in the comics. You can’t even say girl power for that either, because she messed things up more than she helped in that show.
Yeah I also liked marvel movies before they sold out. Disney Marvel and all their brainless woke avengers crap makes me sick
@@CrazyGamer-zf1be Because it was garbage from start to finish?
Remember when Kenneth Brannaugh directed Thor and actually made Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston do real dramatic acting?
Most people dislike it.
I liked it a lot.
@@belaytriks Thor 1 wasn't the best movie but I could at least appreciate the effort being made back then. Now it looks like something we would never see in the MCU.
I really miss that. It cemented Loki as such a well-loved character for a reason, also thanks in no small part to Tom Hiddleston's incredible acting skills.
Kenneth should have directed the whole trilogy.
It's too bad that literal Thor can't come down and smite Disney for what they've done to his likeness
So there's ways where you can have diverse characters and still make them very interesting and relevant to the plot. Like this is writing class 101 how to write diverse characters without making them about their diversity, but not also ignoring what makes them different, a balancing act. I really love the representation the last few years but at the same time I'm also cannot ignore the fact that. It doesn't feel genuine like oh hi I'm character and I happen to be blank. It feels like the very opposite of subtle that it's more about getting a demographic than actually having different and interesting new characters. Like yeah phase one Marvel definitely wasn't as diverse but that doesn't mean that you have to like put it up in everyone's faces and in a way that doesn't feel genuine. I think that's kind of the problem it does not feel genuine and real you can have super cool and interesting characters without making their difference their whole identity. As someone who is a person of color and lgbtq+ I didn't really feel seen I just felt like I was a demographic to get money from now that's trending and socially acceptable, to to see US as a demographic. You guys aren't the only ones complaining about the representation, but sometimes it feels like some fans are complaining just the existence of representation, but not how it came across. But anyhow that's my two cents I wrote a long one since this is like a major pet peeve of mine. Tho one Marvel show I think really hit it of on rep was Falcon and Winter soldier. It kind of humanized all the characters and we finally get to see some level of reality hit some of the characters. Also the after effects of the blip
Love the accurate cgi portrayal of Natalie Portman’s arms at the very beginning of the video. I hope there’s a bootleg fan edit of this movie with that arm edit.
Haha that would be pretty amusing
Get a life. Funny how you pretend that CGI isn't used on the male actors.
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The jokes didn’t land, there was no entertainment value to the film & I saw groups of people leave during the movie. Never thought that would happen in a Marvel film.
The only reason I would watch this thing is to see Bale's performance.
@@0volts157 Christian Bale facial acting is played out , honestly.
Watch his stuff in American Psycho, Batman... His acting fizzes out.
Damnnn
Nerdrotic well represents anyone over 25 who grew up living Marvel and DC. Keep going!!!!
It's sad that actors aren't stepping up & refuse to play roles as degradable as this. Or at least speaking against it in interviews, social platforms.
Just saw this abomination today. I lost count of the number of times I was shaking my head and muttering FFS...Thor Odinson, who has been alive and "around" for a couple of thousand years reduced to comic relief. Waititi has no place directing any further Marvel movies, my favourite comedic relief was the screaming goats. Other than that, way too many jokes. And wow, how fortunate that all of the children were "worthy". Seems like everyone's worthy these days, "you can be Thor, you be Thor, here you be Thor".
So the "villain" ends up winning and making a "heroic sacrifice", after a temporary and newly powered female Thor makes a heroic sacrifice, while the titular main character spent most of the movie as lovelorn comic relief. And we are meant to accept this pathetic version of Zeus and the nonsensical reasons for refusing to help? and for crying out loud that Hercules in the post credit scene.... Belch.... The actor may have played a "football hardman", but he does not have the physique to be Hercules. Marvel movies going forward, if they're like this are a lost cause.
Being worthy comes down to being brave and noble, also humility as he needed that in the first one to get it back. His speech made them the first 2. If you keep Thor too serious, you end up with the second Thor movie. After learning earth customs and hanging around the Guardians of the Galaxy for awhile, he's in higher spirits and you could say masks his pain with with it. Not everything in Marvel has to be dark and gloomy. You get a little of everything now.
The MCU ended with Endgame...seriously, it's fucking dead now.
Infinty War for me.
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Agreed, That was the end of quality movies because Endgame was satisfying mess.
@@anubusx yes , but endgame kinda bid proper goodbyes
@@himathegreat2987 at the expense of burning the universe to the ground...
Un video muy revelador. ¡gracias por compartir!
Two caracters destroyed in MCU: Thor and Hulk. RIP.
*Why did they need to make a "Female Thor" when the Norse Mythologies have Freyja and other female badasses already?!* I guess Marvel doesn't owe any trademarks on Freyja...
Because the name Thor guaranteed an audience.
Something had to be sold in the name of thor
Because it happened in the comics
They even had a badass warrior woman closely related to Thor in the MCU called Sif! Fucking use her!
because they want to destroy everything you like. they are communists. sorry.
I went from marginally interested in this movie and was probably going to watch it to now having zero interest in it and certainly won't watch it. Long gone are the days my buddies and I would camp out to watch the midnight showing of every marvel movie to not even being interested. Disney has really fucked this up just like everything else they've done.
The good ole days..
Cry some more
@@bobbyhulll8737 Disney shareholders are the only ones crying.
@@JuicersSuck about what ? People going to movies? if you actually read the comics you would know how literally anything can and does happen if
You don’t like it wait for another writer to take over and do their run .. Thor literally had a Doctor alter ego with a limp that had to tap his stick on the ground to turn into Thor and had to have his hammer every few seconds to not revert back to Thor .. things change its comics … It’s for the kid in all of us not for adults to critique like it’s a one sort literary masterpiece
@@bobbyhulll8737 "About what? People going to the movies?" - No about their stock getting cut in half the past 5 years. I actually do read comics, I own over 65k of them. Just because anything can/does happen doesn't mean I have to enjoy it and from what clips I've seen of this movie and chatter at the comic shops and movie reviews I know I won't enjoy this. If I wanted to watch over the top comedy, I'll watch Monte Python or Mel Brooks.
I never understood what Thor was thinking when he named Valkyrie king.
Yes, she's a great warrior but she knows nothing about ruling and has spend last 1000+ years as a drunken slaver/bounty hunter. Was it because all the others named Asgardian characters were dead?
And also why does she call herself king? Hela - who appeared in the Waititi's previous Thor movie - was also a woman and she always called herself queen.
My problems with the movie were pure Taika's writing.
Marvel should have kept the leash on him, or hired a different writer like they did for Ragnarok.
Also, if any of the embarrassment Thor had gone through in this film had happened to Jane or Valkyrie, they would have killed Zeus before he had a chance to flick. And the audience would be clapping over toxic masculinity being beaten, or some shit.
I hate Phase 4.
Thor went from having his hero's journey arc completed to having it ripped away from him and has been pissed on ever since. Of course, him being emasculated was all part of the plan anyway.
True, definitely part of the plan. And that's where the evil of these large companies comes in. They know exactly what they're doing
*arc
*emasculated
Just for the future ref, completely agree on the comments tho :)
@@OsellaSquadraCorse yeah I fixed it. It's kind of hard to proofread while driving.
And I am still hoping that the stone troll Gork or what ever his name [Kort? he is the large blue rock comedian with awsful jokes ] and Valkyrie are indeed killed. that would be great. Don't bring back Valkyrie and lady Thor and the comedian rock being Kort
@@evildoughboy7773 haha, love it! ;)
Can someone explain to me what happened to Thor’s robotic eye that he got from Rocket? They seem to have forgotten about that part.
They also forgot the part where Thor is a god based on Norse mythology that dates back thousands of years. He’s written to behave like a child in this film.
Marvel along with many other companies have submitted themselves to "THE MESSAGE"