The Rings of Power is ABYSMAL | Amazon's Billion Dollar DISASTER
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
- It's official, The Rings of Power is AWFUL. You had one chance Amazon. Only 6 episodes and 4 more seasons to go. This may go down as the most catastrophic failure of all time.
So it begins.
Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Episode 1 and 2 Review
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The LOTR does not need to reflect the world of today. It needs to reflect itself.
Literally the whole
Yet u still prob watched all the series,ironic.
@@axion4743 ever heard of Pirate Bay, kiddo? Need a tour guide?
@axion Butcher just called you a C^nt but in "The rings of power" kind of way
@@axion4743 Strange thing to say, considering you need to watch something to experience just how good or bad something is.
I don't think you understand what irony is, mate.
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made" J.R.R Tolkien.
It's a fun quote, but not factual at all.
Roasted
Very edgy, but the show is alright. So is the company.
@@ThePepperSunlight You are not alright, seek theraphy at once!
@@ThePepperSunlight let me guess and so is Jeff?
Rings of Power costs $60 million per hour, Peter Jackson's LOTR cost $43 million per hour (inflation adjusted). Yet somehow, even though he spent less, Peter managed to hire name actors, good writers, shot the whole thing on 35mm film and had much better cgi, costuming and props. Where did all of Amazon's money go?
Money laundering and wage fraud in useless departments, mainly “diversity, equity, inclusion” groups
Into an orcs butt.
Where all the money goes when ur feeling with devil's hiding behind "woke". Their pockets. They can't even name what female is and u expect them to have morales?
to them "superfans"?
you are spitting facts man, this cast of actors are a bunch of randoms and everything is trash
"Do you know why a stone sinks?"
Must be the dumbest thing I ever come across in a TV show.
Its worst when you realised someone was paid to write that.
So now we know why this show stinks...
Hey, I guess the Elves didn't have Archimedes..
Is Galadriel supposed to be the hero of this show? I think back to Gladiator, the first scenes show Maximus showing sympathy for his men and explaining how they are weak and hungry and deserve home. Galadriel ignores her men and pushes them to almost death as they are collapsing of exhaustion. She is not a leader, she is not a good character. Two episodes in and I want Sauron to win.
Well I laughed (and I haven't seen it and I think I agree with you).
But when gandalf sends two hobbits on a suicide mission its all good😂
Ironically that’s probably how an actual female general would treat her soldiers
She doesn't allow her men to camp and rest for one night after they beg her to because "there's no time", but they've been on this mission for literally centuries, and there's no immediate threat or reason to believe something is about to happen, so why a few hours of rest matter to her so much? Now the whole mission is failed because of her being a bossy bitch, and we're lead to believe it's everyone else's fault.
Go cry some more 😂. I like her no bullshit attitude and how she’s on a mission and no one and nothing will stand in her way. Your point is addressed btw by Gil Gilad who says that in her obsession with darkness she may spread it (that’s why he was sending her back to the undying lands)
"there aren't any LGBT characters because Tolkien was Catholic."
Right, because all the other 1950s fantasy books were just brimming with gay and transgender characters! 🤦♂
No one said Grace Randolph was smart.
The non-Christian early fantasy was all eaten up with Notsee rewritten histories. Lol. Like Conan the Barbarian--total Waldorf cult lunacy. The rest were all just plain straight male sex fantasies with maaaagic.
@@Ashkihyena Entertainment critics, alongside actors and "professional" CZcamsrs, have zero practical skills to offer the world.
What are you trying to say, that 1950s fantasy books lacked diversity? Right, that's the point.
@@bonchbonch No, mainly that "Diversity" isnt the fucking focus of every single piece of entertainment media and doesnt have to be. Coming from a man of colour btw.
I've struggled to define this. So here goes:
The problem with diversity casting is that it's so blatant. The actors' qualities become more important than the actual character. So you become hyper aware of the person instead of the character. It's like a break in the 4th wall, or a mistake missed in post production. It has the same effect on the viewer. It makes the viewer self aware and takes them out of the story. The purpose of casting a black elf is a mechanism for others to see their likeness in characters better. It has nothing to do with the story and everything to do with the viewer. So the viewer becomes hyper aware of the actor, in a good or bad way.
It's the entire issue with all types of affirmative action - when I see a certain person in a certain situation, how can I have faith they fully earned it, instead of being elevated for other reasons. And in entertainment, yes, it's incredibly distracting because you have preconceived notions before even starting the movie/show.
Only racists care about the skin color of the actor matching their own. What matters is the lore. Respect the lore.
I really didn’t care if there were black elves, dwarfs, etc. although I didn’t really see the point in it. The biggest problem was that the writing was just awful and these actors were simply not good enough. Look at the trilogy, it had Ian McClellan, Christopher Lee, Cate Blanchett, Vigo Mortensen, Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Andy Serkis, Sean Bean, etc. It was an amazing cast of well trained actors, some of which were already huge Tolkien fans. Amazon was clearly more focused on hiring a diverse cast rather than a well trained one.
So many scenes from the Peter Jackson version still give me goosebumps - like the speech of King Theoden (that you showed in the introduction) as he is preparing to ride out, likely to his death, to take the fight to the Orcs besieging Helm's Deep - staggering, astonishing cinema which made you feel raw emotion as it whirled you through Tolkein's Middle Earth. Compared to that, Amazon's $1Billion series has all the gravitas of a sitcom and the emotional charge of an advertisement for baked beans.
Unfortunately not one actor in this is fit to kiss Bernards bum
No need to bring baked beans into this atrocity.
@@ericpierson8497 No offense intended for lovers of baked beans! 😁
Well said about Theoden’s speech. It is truly astonishing cinema.
That talking dog from the Bushs baked beans commercials is a better character than the entire RoP cast.
Holy crap… she actually DID demand to speak to the manager! These writers are oblivious.
A mary-sue and a karen all in one body
Consider this, as well: We travel with a party of elves, and only the bad, palest one (a male, surprise!) is ever recognizable. Imagine the Fellowship of the Ring if only Frodo and Gandalf could be identified.
Whoever is manipulating these women into thinking that super insecure behavior are signs of "strong", "independent" and "empowerment" did a fine job into convincing and making them cartoonishly childish & foolish. The cringe is real.
@@johngeiger3770 it’s what happens when your life experience is limited to grad school and not a real young adulthood
Amazon splashed serious cash on some trash
I felt personally offended that there wasn’t a Japanese, Indian, Pacific Islander, and Latin American elf in the first episode. How dare they call themselves inclusive.
As a Brazilian, the lack of capoeira circles in the show is terribly insulting
It's "WOKE of the Rings!" from Amazon.
'Do you know why a stone sinks?' reminds me of the first X-men film when Storm asks 'Do you know what happens to a toad when it is struck by lightning?'
The initial monologue from theoden gave me chills. The original peter jackson trilogy is a masterpiece.
@@stephenlaing2152 Yeah but atleast it was lore friendly baggage.
@@stephenlaing2152 Which movie adaptation from a book is a masterpiece then? Harry Potter?
@@stephenlaing2152 Good job naming a bunch of things that are 10,000 times more easy to film. Grapes of Wrath are you kidding me? LOL.
Imagine creating a story beginning with the words, "In a hole in a ground, there lived a Hobbit..."
Only for your work to be snapped up by a greedy, money-hungry company immediately after your son's death, and they cannot even legally use the term of the creature that YOU created. All for them to release the show on the anniversary of your death.
I am beyond disgusted with Amazon, and refuse to believe that any good can come from this series.
In a hole in the ground, I hid my dead wife
Except that this show is really good :) You are missing out
Its almost sounds Esoteric. Like a Cult. Who would do that?
@@charliek9394 No. No it's not. No. No I'm not.
@@charliek9394 I watched the two episodes, and was appalled with the inaccuracies of lore in the series already. And that goes without the poor dialogue, the mediocre acting. Even the score, which should have been a saving grace, did not shine like it has in previous adaptations of Tolkien's work. I am not saying that it cannot get better, but it is already so far from what it could have been with that amount of money in the production budget.
Ahh Bernard Hill, what a fine actor. Played his part of King Theoden of Rohan, memorable performance looked like a man who had seen battles and hardship. The good times.
Agreed - spot on. I recently had a long think about who was the "best actor" in the PJ trilogy and it was a toss up between Galadriel and Theoden. Bernard Hill won by a hairs breadth in my opinion (but Cate Blanchett gave a magnificently elegant and subtle performance). How times have changed...
He's so great, he can turn up in Valkyrie, repeat one of his famous lines from TTT into Tom Cruise's face, and still get away with it.
@@JohnBeeblebrox too bad the movies sucked
@@reek4062 lolwut
@@TheChzoronzon Don't feed the trolls.
The 25 minutes of this video were more interesting than whatever we have seen so far on rings of power
Talked with people here in Denmark who watched it and don’t know anything about all this drama around the show and they all said they thought it was “meh” and boring.
_“Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot?”_
Uh, because the ship displaces more water than it weighs, and the stone doesn’t?
*Density* and *Buoyancy* 😎
No, it is because a ship looks up to the the sky when the rock only wallows in its bigotry.
Do you know what else floats?
@@Drag0nvil A duck!
@@RS43210 so if Guyladriel weighs as much as a duck...
“Why does a dumpster fire burn and a toilet flush?” Nailed it, man.
Excellent video, that’s spot on Amazon’s Rings of Power- the most determined case of corporate suicide in entertainment history.
Eomund's scene at the start of this is 100x better than any line of dialogue that this show has. Also, "Simbelmÿne. Ever has it grown on the tombs of my forebears. Now it shall cover the grave of my son. Alas, that these evil days should be mine. The young perish and the old linger. That I should live to see that last days of my house."
This line of dialogue wasn't even in the books and yet it encapsulates how poetic and beautiful Tolkien wrote his story. Truly, if you have love and understand the source material, there's no reason your show should be as bad as it is.
JRRT really went shopping every time King Theoden speaks. He is fantastic
No parent should have to bury their child
No mention about how Amazon-owned Imdb has hidden all user reviews below 6 stars? They're playing really dirty with this one
I didn't actually know this before reading this comment. I totally verified. That's ridiculous!
They can't hold the truth.
Spewing bullshit
Really? That is new news to me. Apparently Amazon are just sad and pathetic losers.
The fact they can even pretend to claim this has anything to do with Tolkien is fantastically laughable
no one is forcing you to watch it bud
none of the adaptations have anything to do with Tolkien
@@Gamingkyle nope but I did and it's terrible
@@Gamingkyle while forcing others not to allow reviews to be read.
@@Johnny12575 because the show isn't as bad as you all are making it out to be. It's just a hate train at this point. how does it feel to be wrong?
One does not simply make a Tolkien Film... The Fact that peter Jackson wasn't involved was alarming from the start
"There are two episodes and nothing happened"
Oh boy, now there are five episodes and still nothing happened :D
It absolutely guts me that some will watch this show, not knowing the lore of Tolkien, and say, “It’s alright.” No, it’s not. It’s spits on a respected man’s legacy, spits on his son’s, spits in our faces as fans, and then they have the gall to claim we’re the problem. Amazon must pay dearly, they must pay dearly, or surely all magic and hope has begun to depart our world.
Indeed my friend, that's what is the most painful thing. This is desecration of the highest order.
The magic and hope have departed from the world a long time ago. Look around you.
Many people don't want to be fans of Tolkien. They just want to enjoy each show for what it is. They wouldn't even care if it was plagiarized material as long as it entertained them. I think Amazon would continue to make money from these kinds of media consumers who don't care whether Alan Smithee or JRR Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion.
@@starlyghtdrifter66 true this is completely different world..people who have no talent want to insert themself into works of great authors.Its a shame but it is what it is.
So now you've decided to just hate watch each episode? Save yourself the energy.
The dialogue in this show reminds me of Mike Stoklasa's description of how the writers of Star Trek Picard believe they have written thought-provoking and inspirational dialogue, but it's nothing more than a jumbled word salad. It's as painful as listening to teen dialogue written by someone over the age of 50.
"It's lit, fam" - 🤡
I feel u, brother skater
Where's the good dialogue Mansley!?
@@Themaxxrad99 mmmmmmboy!
Or vice versa.
This video was better than all 3 episodes of Amazon combined 😂
I've been talking to my wife to cancel our subscription to Amazon because of how disgusting the company is and this have sealed the idea, they have destroyed my beloved lord of the rings as Disney have done with star wars. I will canceling my subscription as soon as I get back to the US in 2 weeks
"The stone sinks because it looks down. The paper floats because it looks to the stars." - the greatest writing in television history
Do you know what it means yet? Fucked if I do.
I actually don't mind that tbh, there's an animistic implication that I find interesting enough, although I don't know how much animism applies to elves. Obviously not great writing but I've definitely heard worse.
And Amazon's Rings of Prime is sinking like a stone...
(Monty Python would have a thing or two to say about that as well! ; )
@@peterd788 I don't know about the stone but I do get the poetic metaphor of the stars being inspiring and thus elevating the author who sits in front of it.
That being said, the show is garbage, don't get me wrong x)
So deep and I feel so moved.
I'll never forget how cool the Elves looked when they showed up in the 1st LOTR these Elves wouldn't stand a chance and the short hair is absolutely horrible
they look like Vulcans that have wandered onto the wrong set ...
@@tma2001 hahaha that was a good joke.
That’s why I only Arandir since he’s a sylvan. And somehow for a brown skin elve has more facial features of an elf than the white elves around him.
@@ulyssesdiaz7651 he is the only beautiful elf in the show, but at the same time his military haircut is huge turn off.
I still remember those first 10 mins. The Elves left me in Awe. Even Elrond, while looking dirty due to the battle, still had that Elvish look.
The worst part of this is Galadriewl's utter contempt for literally anyone and everyone around her. No cooperation, no unity, nothing. Just enmity.
I wondered why he couldn't pronounce Galadriel, until I realised he was trying to say "Guy-ladriel". lol
It's an insult to Tolkien and the world he created. These people make me sick but hey remember you are the problem, you are the evil wrong monsters for having a problem with things been totally changed, people not being who they are, events being totally wrong etc...
Indeed we are.
How vile of us Tolkien fans not to be a commodity that Bezos can purchase on the open market.
Our price is far higher, Amazon; it's the honor and respect of the author...
Did Amazon hurt your little feelings?
@@reek4062 the shill is here
@@reek4062 😂mindless troll
@@ltme4134 His whole comment history as of late is doing this crap.
The Ride of the Rohirrim, is the most beautiful piece of cinema I've scene. "Spears shall be shaken, Shields will be splintered, Ride to ruin and the world's ending!" Charging into battle knowing that they may die, but will die fighting evil, is the innate spirit of Men of the West. Plus the soundtrack made it so much more epic
Rings of Power is an embarrassment
ok crybaby
@@reek4062 your entire history is doing this you shill.
Like what
@@yagsipcc287 thank you, I'm flattered
@Se He Peter Jackson fans ignore that
Reposting here :
I have not watched an episode yet but amazon says i have watched several. They show up as having been fully watched ( the lil progress bar ). I have never watched a minute.
They are cheating.
"Only twice in known history has a pairing between elves and humans even been attempted and in each occasion, it ended in tragedy; it ended in death."
I'll be Elrond would be really interested in learning that. You know, being that he's the result of such a pairing.
He looks pretty good for being dead though, you have to admit.
Amazon did the exact same thing with Wheel of Time. Inclusiveness, race-swapping, destoying the lore, changing things that get HUGE sideeffects, ignoring the fans, etc, etc
ok incel
Oh no, no black people. What ever will we do?!?!?!
I'm a huge Wheel of Time fan of the books. The series was fricking awful. Gender swapping, diversity recognised etc. I really hope another show runner gets it.
Enduring one season of that turd was enough for me, and I took it as a warning of how Amazon would eviscerate LOTR. I won't bother watching a moment of it.
Leftism destroys everything
I find the part where Elrond and Celebrimbor go to Khazad Dum just so odd. From the shots you can see there is clearly nothing and no one around. It's also clear that they don't have any packs with supplies so basically Elrond is leaving Celebrimbor in the middle of nowhere with no supplies, no shelter and just the grandma dress he's wearing. It's just a really odd scene.
Another thing I find strange is they give you absolutely no sense of time or scale. I'll be the first to admit that Peter Jackson played fast and loose with some things but one amazing thing he did was establishing a sense of time and scale. From the Fellowship leaving Rivendell to Gandalf and Pippin going to Minas Tirith you had a sense that it was a long journey. In RoP everyone is just magically at the next destination no muss or fuss. It's kinda disappointing.
you can see when the director says action and they walk from behind the rocks with no supplies or change of clothing from there previous scene
And the doors of Moria was open, you could travel from Ammroths realm in Lothlorien to Ost in Endhil without hinderence it was a time of great commerce
at the end of RotK, Frodo specifically mentions 13 months since he set out on his quest to destroy The Ring.
they used the magic eagle uber
They don't need a lot of supplies, Eregion is very close to Khazad-dûm. It's almost the same distance that the fellowship traveled from Moria's east gate to Lothlórien. Like an hour or so maybe.
I don't understand why so much money would be put towards something and absolutely zero effort put into making it good. It's like spending all your money on an egg that can hatch into a golden goose, but making no effort to keep it from breaking. Like, surely you'd stop at nothing to protect it, right? Cuz otherwise you lose everything. And the LAST thing you'd be doing is chucking it around, almost DARING it to smash open.
You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel ANGRY!
It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, wisest and fairest of them all. Rights were then given to Jackson; great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men, who above all else, desired quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop. And into this show he poured his malice, his greed and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all
Edit: stole this from Alexander Mandelin
Frodo and Sam weren't even friends but it was the center of the entire trilogy, but yes, we only accept faithful adaptations here.
Sadly your comment is far more eloquent & composed better than the entire dialogue in the 1st two episodes
Peak Narration and Dialogue adaptation...you could have been this show ghost writer.
@@enochroot9438 did you fucking hear some of the fucking dialogues. People here are absolutely delusional.
'I admire all who can see into the mystery of things, who can divine from the plainness of what is, the beauty of what could be.' - Lord Celebrimbor
'Evil does not sleep. It waits. And in the moment of our complacency, it blinds us.' - Galadriel
"It is said the wine of victory is sweetest for those in whose bitter trials it has fermented." - Elrond
"Most wounds to our bodies heal of their own accord, so, it is their labor instead to render hidden truths as works of beauty. For beauty has great power to heal the soul."
Most eloquent words Gimli said to frodo in lotr: "and my axe"
People here are delusional
I don't care whom you stole it from. This is the first comment in awhile that made me laugh out loud. Thank you
Imagine all the things someone can do with a billion dollars. And Amazon did this. Yikes.
Why waste it on the homeless or war refugees?
As a wise robot once said "With Hookers! And Blackjack!"
@@reek4062 or investing it in expanding bandwidth to make unlimited high speed data with low latency a reality for everyone
@@cosmictreason2242 Sure, but that wouldn't flatter the egos of these "creatives" and how brilliant they are.
Do you think all rich people are smart? Apparently not, looking at Disney, DC, BBC and Amazon.
I just LOVE Morfydd Clark's portrayal of Galadriel. She has so many different ways of staring at other characters and doing so in different situations. She has the "I'm so angry" stare. Then there's her, "You're going to do what I tell you to do" stare. And how can we forget her, "You haven't seen what I have what I have seen" stare. On top of all these examples of thespian brilliance, sometimes Morfydd just stares directly at the camera or at something offscreen. I'm mesmerized by her technique.
Some people have unfairly pointed out that in the few scenes that Cate Blanchett appeared as Galadriel in The Fellowship of the Ring, she displayed much more gravitas and charisma than Morfydd has done in the first two hours of TRP. This is, of course, an unfair comparison because Cate Blanchett is an older and much more experienced actress. If I look at IMDB and compare their ages, I see that Cate Blanchett was exactly the same age when she played Galadriel as Morfydd Clark is today. OK, never mind that.
As far as the explanation we get in Episode 1 of why boats float and rocks don't float, I completely disagree with Nerdrotic's criticism. I haven't heard such depth of thought and logical precision of argument since Monty Python explained why witches float in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
There's just so much to enjoy in this show. If nothing else, I think a good drinking game could be created by taking a shot every time Galadriel stares hard at something or every time a woman does something courageous while the men cower and, or look stupid. However, combining those two things might put everyone under the table in a single episode, so be careful.
Galadriel has as many facial contortions as Mason Verger, realistic ones that is. In fact....I'd like to let Dr Lecktor loose on all involved with this shite
I watched episode 1 yesterday & was thoroughly unimpressed with all the characters. Just as Nerdrotic said in this video, by the end of the episode, I didn't have any attachment to anyone & didn't care what happened next.
For comparison, I watched Cherry 2000 yesterday afternoon for the first time & I was more attached to those characters than I was with any in ROP. When a cheap 1986 movie give me more emotional attachment to their characters than a multi-Million Dollar extravaganza that ROP is supposed to be, that tells me I won't need to bother watching any further episodes. Amazon, you done failed on a galactic scale.
When Galadriel saw the rings and said "Impressive, very nice, let's see Paul Allen's ring" i literally started crying. As if Tolkien himself wrote this masterpiece
"Oh my God...it even has a watermark."
_glares at the Mark of Sauron while gushing under the table_
comments like this is what will normalize this garbage because people see the memes and thats it. Tolkiens work gets dragged through the mut. these comments are as disrespectful as the actual show.
@@MichaSennin Well, they like to delete actual critical comments so we need to confuse the shit out of their bots
@@MichaSennin It's a mediocre LOTR show but a good fantasy show. Have you watched it? If you haven't, I'd say watch it, but watch it as its own thing rather than a proper LOTR show. Because it's still a good watch for a fantasy show. The sets are cool, cinematography is cool, character designs are okay, wardrobe is very good, story is decent. It's just not really LOTR like we would want it, but a really good fantasy show nonetheless
@@MichaSennin what a load of shyte
When Galadriel said to Elrond in the shower "hey, anybody come at you yet? Anybody get to you yet? Hey, we all need friends in here. I could be a friend to you." Elrond just rudely walked away, but undeterred Galadriel just said "hard to get. I like that." I thought to myself now this is pod racing.
Billy Batts, this was beautiful. Now go get your shinebox!
@@odeleon24 no more shines. You been away a while, but he don't shine shoes no more...
Thank you! Someone finally mentions Galadriel's character flaw from the Silmarillion--a desire for power. She sins against Eru and the Valar by leaving Valinor so that she can rule a kingdom of her own.
And follows a kinslayer of epic proportions
One of the worst characterization of elves that isn’t being discussed is when Arondir is captured by Orcs. Arondir is supposed to be a Silvan Elf. Never mind he doesn’t look the part, no fucking way could a band of loud smelly Orcs sneak up behind him like that. His senses should be heightened beyond measure.
The saddest part of this ideal is how successful it could've been if they'd just even TRIED to stay true to the source material. Even if they failed to measure up, a lot of fans would've appreciated the effort to adapt such a complex literary masterpiece if it were genuinely made.
Thats not what they want, fans appreciation and such things.. rather the opposite. Also money doesn't matter for amazon. They did exactly what they want - taking our attention to fill our time and minds with more nonesense. This is politics executive medium at its best.
kinda of what happened with the witcher. season 1 was bad but they were at least trying, so I was rooting for it. then season 2 came and netflix went absolutely apeshit with it. I feel sorry for cavill, although I think that he's not a good geralt, he was really invested on his role. the actresses for yennefer and fringilla were stellar, although their characters were massacred (mostly yen) by the series writing. seriously, they DESTROYED yennefer. I feel bad for the actors/actresses giving it their all but the series became abhorrent to me
How have they not stayed true to the source material? Please explain
@@gustavogoesgomes1863 not to mention how they destroyed Triss, by changing her character with terrible writing, and the ginger erasure agenda of blackwashing redheads. That's ignoring all the "diversity" in a medieval European setting.
@@Balandrus the problem with triss for me is that she acts like an old aunt of geralt, when she was kinda like a teenager, younger friend of yen. the games are a bit off in that regard too, but the series exaggerated it so much that it became jarring. my problem with her looks in the series is that she looks and acts old
The fact that as of Sep 4, several days after the release, Amazon is still NOT showing reviews on their own video, should tell you everything you need to know about how it is.
Amazon does not even allow you a rating and IMDB is not showing any written reviews below 6/10. Oh, if you look up who owns IMDB, guess what comes up? Amazon... Look at Metacritic, there the audience score is 2,4/10 ;o)
Or you could just, you know, watch it for yourself and form your own opinion.
Still not enough, the backlash must remain unrelenting.
@@bonchbonch yeah and go to imdb and rip it to pieces in the review section. Thanks for advice.
@@lithium81 This is what you're doing with your life.
It was worse than I expected and my expectations were already pretty low.
Summarized perfectly
My name is Thrak Stonehand. I'm a troll and I would like to protest the way trolls are portrayed in this show. Let's look at the scene with the ice troll. The ice troll comes home from a hard day at work only to find a band of armed intruders has broken into his home. Before my poor brother troll can say wtf one of the thugs screams "Ice Troll!," and is brutally attacked in his own home. Who is the real villains here?The troll minding his own business? Or a pack of of racists buying into anti Troll stereotypes.
The worst thing is they miss Tolkien's themes so much, it makes you wonder if the authors of this show can read at all. Having Galadriel being motivated by revenge is utterly anti-Tolkien. No hero in Tolkien's writings would *ever* be motivated by revenge. Hell, Noldor were motivated by revenge in Silmarillion, and it brought them nothing but grief and suffering. Nor would any Tolkien's hero be proud, vain, wrathful or indulgent, like these characters in ROP. Tolkien's heroes would be compassionate, humble and insightful... You know, like a good proper Catholic Christian would write them.
Tolkien's heros if they did not contain these characteristics or traits would learn or gain them in painful life lesson ways becoming heros. A story ark not these paper deep characters created by abandoning Tolkien lore. It's doing right when there is no rules that makes you the good guy.
It's not revenge. I'm not sure how it could be more clear that she feels a sense of duty to finish what her brother started.
It's essentially smashed into the audiences faces that this is why she is obsessed. Also, her nature demands that she see this through to the end.
@@grantlawrence4600 dosen't make her any less of a shit character
@@grantlawrence4600 unfortunately obsession is not a heroic Tolkien trait either. Obsession was the means by which the one ring broke down the bearer's mind and morals...making them neglect and then forget the things that made them goodly and worldly... until all there was the object of their obsession, so precious. So either way, she still sucks.
Túrin was kind of motivated by revenge but it was his downfall, a character flaw that brought low those around him as well. In Tolkin's stories vengeful heroes are an *opportunity* for evil, not it's bane.
One thing that bothers me, and is basically untouched in most videos, is the depiction of elves. When Tolkien created the elves he wanted to resemble immortal tall, beautiful, skilled, YOUNG beings. Elves reached their prime and stayed in that way until they die from battle.
But seeing the actors casted for Celebrimbor or Gil Galad being obviously old completely spits in the concept of these ethereal wise beings who have lived way longer than they seem...
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Elrond looks old as hell in LOTR…
Dont think theyre immortal. Just age super slow. Thousands of years. If Elrond was between 4500-6000 years old in lotr movies and looked like he was just barely middle aged it would suggest elves live to at least 10000 years. In middle earth anyway. Beyond the sea they might be immortal. But i agree celebrimbor or whatever shouldnt look that old. Isnt he around the same age as galadriel lol.
Elves are immortal. So much so that one even came back to life after being killed by a Balrog when fleeing the sack of Gondolin.
There was one who was so old he had a beard. The shipwright at the grey havens.
@@heynuddhey Hugo Weaving does push the limit for elven look, but it still suits him by underlining Elrond's wisdom. And every other elf either is or looks younger than him in the trilogy.
"Do you know why the shit flows?" Considering how bad the writing is, I wouldn't be surprised that was the real line.
" S: would you like to come aboard?
G: how far are we from the coast?
S: about 100, 150 miles;
G: no thank, then, i'm almost arrived."
One of the greatest pieces of dialogue in the RoP had to be when Galadriel unsheathed her gunblade:
Elrond: Do you know how to use that thing?
Galadriel: Yes pointy end goes into the other man.
And then she slayed Gargamel.
was this before or after she force choked darth vader and threw him out of an airlock? so many iconic scenes, its hard to keep track of em all!
She should go to Israel and say: ''It's shower time.''
@@reek4062 Wait, an 'elf' telling others it's shower time? I thought it was the 'elves' that always bring up that one time they were put in the shower; I mean, they never let anyone forget it and how they're always so oppressed...
It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings.
Rights were granted to Jackson, great
miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And
nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men, who above all else, desire quality.
But
They were all of them deceived,
for another show was made.
In the land of Amazon,
in the fires of Mount Prime,
the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop
And
into this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate all Tolkien mythology:
One show to ruin them all
-Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot?
-Yes. Yes, I do.
-Oh. Okay, then. Just checking. Er... I'll be over here if you want to know why trees cannot fly.
Award winning writing right there! Wow so stunning and brave!
Because it weighs the same as a duck!!
@@danstevenson1840 - Or an unladened swallow.
@@tanisdevelopment African or European?
@@johankarlsson4357 - I don't know that! Aaaaaaaaaaghhhh!
I would pay money to see amazon and the rings of fuckery go out of business...to see Disney fail...to see the M-she-U fail. I would pay money.
You know what I hate most? They didn't even make an effort to filming REAL beautiful places in the world, like in LOTR. For example if you watch that scene where that so called elrond visits durin, it's all animated. Not even a single tiny rock is real. Why? To make it look even shittier than it already does? God...
5 seasons?!?! They shouldn’t have even made a first season. “It should have ended that day, but evil Bezos was allowed to endure.”
'The spirit of Sauron endured!'
Do not be too proud of the cinematic terror that you have constructed, Amazon. The ability to destroy a franchise is insignificant next to the power of the Fandom.
Vader. Release him!
this bickering is pointless!
Underrated comment.
HAHHAHA That was very good reworking of Vader's quote
I find their lack of faith in J.R.R.T disturbing
It bothers me that the Elves in ROP have tiny mouths and lips, they don't look like elves. Compare that to Cate Blanchet, Liv Tyler and Evangeline Lilly. The guys as well - tiny lips... Elves are special beings so i expect the best Genes mankind has to offer for the cast!
One of the lowest points of the show (so far) is watching Elrond mouthing the words of the speech he wrote for Gil-Galad as they maneuver Galadriel out of Middle Earth for being troublesome - he wasn't some bootlicking political aide currying favor with the big guy. They've turned him into a beta quisling, trying to lecture his 4000-year old mother-in-law on how to accept their crafted narrative and go with the flow. Pathetic.
She is supposed to become his mother-in-law...but that is gonna be difficult since they've turned Elrond into Guyladriel's obviously gay BFF...there is no Celeborn...and therefore won't be a daughter [Celebrian] for him to marry...and then of course no Arwen.
The show is pretty bad, but not as bad as the PJ movies, so I'm happy
He was also Gil-Galad's heir (as King) so the whole "Elf Lords only" thing was odd.
@@reek4062 bait
I forgot that one thanks for pointing out. They also made Galadriel stubborn like a rebelious child and to think she is way older. The elves in the show are not "the" elves in the books. I see and hear them like ordinary humans. Nothing majestical. She's also a Mary Sue fightinh the troll alone and the elf males doing nothing.🤣
This show is not a failure to them, they have created exactly what they intended.. it’s an attack on our culture just like all the rest.
Unfortunately you are absolutely correct. This absolutely breaks my heart.
Yep
All they want is to prove that they can ruin any escapism that we have. To force everything to be about their politics so we have no way to dream of a world better than the one they've made.
The failure part is going to come with how much money they lose. I know people who are going to watch it because they're desperately hoping its good, but I sincerely doubt that they're going to make it through the next four seasons lol
@@jman9049 The owner of Amazon has 2 trillion dollars at his disposal. Do you know how much money that is? They could make four of these a year for forty years and he'd still be able to tip the waitress a million every night at dinner.
$60 million per episode? For... THIS?
Where's the accountability? They couldn't hire some proven experts to review the writing, dialog, etc.? What a tragic expensive joke.
In all fairness, Tolkien intended for the "r's" to be rolled heavily in his languages. That'e about the only thing the show got right.
Why do the elves all look so ... ordinary?
The boat scene in particular. They come off like a bunch of knights on their way to King's Landing, not like a procession of *elves* awaiting *Valinor.*
You may think of Peter Jackson's Instagram filters whatever you'd like, but that is what they canonically look now. I'd really like to hear an in-lore explanation why *these* elves have short hair, rough masculine faces and all of that, but I'm afraid there won't be one.
Or why celebrimbor clearly looks his actor’s late fifties’ age when elves aren’t supposed to age past like 35
Not only them looking cheap, the short hair, how old they look; but the worst offense to me is that behave and look like humans with pointy ears. Not a sign of the etheral and wise first children of Iluvatar...
The casting was laughable. Gil Galad and Celebrimbor not only looked very ordinary, they look old and out of shape🤣.
Thranduil, Legolas, Elrond, Haldir on Jackson's films were believable and in shape while Amazon's Celebrimbor was like an old office worker awaiting retirement age and Elrond was a skinny-neck dude who wants to order coffee with soy milk.
Jackson perfectly portrayed the visuals of the characters and the world. That was a perfect visual representation of Tolkien's creation. Specifically n the LOTR trilogy, less so in the Hobbit trilogy but still 100 times better than what we're getting now, there's absolutely no comparison.
If they make them look too good, the racist agenda will become upset…
Let me get this straight, the actress had to have "therapy" to play this role. Maybe her body, mind and spirit were refusing to do it because it's so bad. A better way they could've had said it: She had to brainwash herself, force herself to play this awfully written character.
It's TV. I don't watch TV anymore because of this 'level' of skill being displayed and calling it entertainment. Plus I've never realized how pathetic it is to see no-nut actors get the chance of THEIR lifetimes and being total douchebags instead of being graceful and thinking about the next job offer which they likely will never get now.
@Joe Yogurt Wait, Guylad is also 'the commander of the Northern armies' but only has a squad of ten elves to command, all of which thanks to telepathy refuse to follow her at the same instant?
They always stay stupid shit like that when they're doing press for a new show. It's always so melodramatic. "I was literally shaking because I got so deep into the character"
Amazon Galadriel is just socially awkward, anti social, social outcasted. Cause of her childhood bullying, early brothers death. All fine and good but for Galadriel character???
this has got to be money laundering.
$58 million per episode???
for WHAT!????
bro entire series and movies have been shot for less i don't understand how that much money can be invested into something so absolutely horrible.
Unless one is making a documentary there is no reason any ENTERTAINMENT should reflect the world we're living in today because the world we live in, is a depressing mess, IT IS NOT entertaining.
Seeing Lenny Henry trying to be a Hobbit just makes the whole thing look like a Monty python sketch
Which one specificly there are so many?
Exactly. I was getting Life of Brian vibes lol
There's a scene in RoP (the framing of the two trees with sunlight) which looks _very_ much like a Terry Gilliam animation from Monty Python. :-)
Yes?
I still don't understand if they wanted to have black actors in this show why they didn't just cast them as characters from the lands of Harad. Tolkien spefically said the Men of that region were of dark-skinned which made sense given the climate of those lands so I don't get why Amazon didn't incorpate them into the show instead of just randomly throwing in black elves, dwarves and hobbits where there's literally no mention of them.
@@Johnny12575 Were the Blue Wizards non-white? As far as I know I thought only the Haradrim and to some extent the Easterlings (and maybe the Men of Khand) were described as the only known non-white peoples inhabiting Middle-earth?
My biggest problem is simply the theft. If you want your own world and lore go make it! Nothing at all stopping you. If it's good you'll get a new fan base. The fact that they have to abuse and contort someone else's work is what pisses everyone off.
It’s like the elvish writing on the Ring. Couldn’t think of anything original so Elvish was used by the forger of the ring.
evil cannot create, it can only corrupt
It's not corrupted, it's pretty much spot on to the way he thought.
To be fair, the rights were bought and paid for so they can do whatever they want with it. That said, it still looks like poor quality material, whether original or not.
@@ConsulYeti and he is free to not like and criticize it.
Half of the characters appear to have just walked out of the hair and nail salon.
Funny how they made elves so ... lowly human.
What Hollywood doesn't seem to understand is that Tolkien was a devout Catholic. He and CS Lewis were both professors at Oxford and were good friends. Each author wanted to create a novel that reflected Christian beliefs through symbolism. What Hollywood is trying to do is to pick out any religious overtones to push their own agenda. They really should have just created an original fantasy series because appropriating someone's story to add elements that go against the original intention is extremely insulting to the original Tolkien fandom.
Yep, and you can bet these Cultural Marxists, would absolutely try to destroy the man if he was still alive.
I have read tolkiens works over 10 times in a period of 35 years, im not religious i never felt any religious overtones in his work
@@ulrichkristensen4087 Aragorn being a metaphor for Jesus wasn't subtle at all...
@@5crassrocker "Return of the King" is pretty on the nose.
They know exactly what they are doing, They want to destroy the ideas of religion and family.
Tolkien was a soldier. He understood life to be a spiritual battle between good and evil. I think he might count this as a win, seeing how hard the forces of evil are attempting to corrupt the force of good that has come from his work. "I fought the fight, I finished the race, I kept the faith."
THIS!!!
First they came for star trek, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a trekkie
Then they came for Star Wars and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Padawan
Then they came for Marvel, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a true believer
Then they came for LOTR -and there was no one left to speak for me.
"High regional manager " ...lololol. The names are golden. Don "lemonless"...hahaha!
If anyone who looked at the script and thought "Hmm this is really good" doesn't get a job ever again then there is one positive to be taken away from this.
It was written in elvish. Their agent said it was really really great.
They can get hired to shovel shit from one ship to another.
Amazon rigging reviews and calling criticism "trolling and racism" and pretty much playing deaf on how bad this show is. We, as fans, should not let this slide, otherwise this would become a standard procedure for every failed show, no matter the author, legacy and how bad it is.
It has already become the standard
They are playing the reva card lol
Ummm, it's a standard procedure for years now, wake up. Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, and don't get me started on video games.
Who invented the race card? And when is the proper time to use it?
It's already the S.O.P.
the saddest part of this whole video is even the critics isnt brave enough to bring up the non existent and impossible racial diversity that are injected into the show
black elves, black hobbits yea right
in LOTR each species is already representing a diversity in that fantasy world, now they have to be all racial focus and add different skin colour to every species that are supposedly fair skinned wtf
imagine showing a Russian mobs and turn him black, yea its that weird and insulting
Yea, it’s ok these tv shows like Star Trek and Lotr will pay the price for this insulting garbage, 1 billion is just crazy
@@NOBLE0307 that show is so meh it doesnt look like they pour 1 billion into film making not even a quarter of it, it screams mediocre effort all around
Probably that 1 billion got filtered in accounting and went straight back into Bezos pocket or used to bribe critics for fake good reviews, yes there is tons of them. But who's investigating?
What, Amazon pissed all over a beloved work of fantasy and got upset when fans of said fantasy didn’t like it?
I feel bad for the CGI artists and the set designers that putt their hearts into this. They deserve better.
I don’t, the show looks digital af and the troll somehow looked worse than the 1999 troll from FOTR
@@nevilleslightlylargerbotto1726 I don’t understand how cgi has seemingly gone backwards in recent years. It’s like the artistry has been slowly sucked out of it and the uncanny valley has made a resurgence.
It's the writers, directors and producers that need to be blamed.
packinwood2009, meh, it's a living.
Do they, it doesn't look like they were trying that hard.
There’s a lot of issues but I’ll never get over the short haired elves. IT DOESNT FEEL LIKE MIDDLE EARTH!
Also, why are the elves wearing noticeable makeup??? Galadriel literally has a modern eyeshadow look. ELVES ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ETHEREAL. They’re born beautiful and don’t need makeup or even want it.
This is not lotr
Are you kidding, young Finrod had zit marks and Elrond has forehead wrinkles up the wazoo... not to mention Celebrimbor looks like a grandma, despite the fact that he's probably younger than Galadriel.
Yeah, why does Celebrimbor look like a weatherbeaten day labourer? Man’s got chasms bisecting his face
@@Osafune2 Clearly the meeting of age details in Tolkien's works was of less importance than someone who looked senior enough to command respect from the audience as the leader of Eregion and looking senior enough to be slain by Annatar later on.
yep, elves got undercuts, pompadours and line ups now. lmao 🤦♂😂😂😂
These elves are true elves. True elves are trans non binary like they have been for thousands of years.. These elves will be taught to your grandkids so that they may become trans non binary like these true heros..
The best part about the "do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot?" quote is the answer they give is literally completely incorrect... I mean.. it's one thing to completely neglect the fans/lore of Tolkien's story, but it takes a whole new level of laziness to not even make sure your own input makes any sense 🤦🏽♂️
I still haven't watched this show and have no interest to
Galadriel is a KAREN. Yep. Now I know why I hate that character. She totally is.
Hiring activists and people who think they need to insert their own ideals and 'modern values' into a fantasy series its no
surprise just how awful this dumpster fire or a show is with CW level writing and the worst dialogue I have ever heard.
bUt iT iS a PoP-CulTurE sHow sO wE cAn dO whAtEvEr wE wAnt
ok incel
Theres a eco friendly investment stamp that demands diverse casting. Basically creators are greedy dwarfs wanting more gold to hoard from other greedy dwarfs
I'm no deep Tolkien lore buff and I'm not watching this show - but even I can see how heavy-handed this show is being. We get it - Galadriel is associated with water, Elrond with air, (not) Gandalf with fire. Whereas Peter Jackson chose to incorporate this bit of lore with a touch so subtle you would barely notice the motif unless you really looked for it - this show seems to hit everything with a big old dwarf hammer.
Anything that Galadriel says, or has said to her, is to do with boats or tempests or ice and culminates in her jumping into the bloody sea. (not) Gandalf arrives in a ball of fire, emerges from a smouldering crater and plays with fireflies. Expect more talk of "ill whispers on the wind" or "bad tidings in the air" from Elrond in upcoming episodes. Its as subtle as a brick.
This is only one small element (no pun intended) in the writing that I noticed while listening to people review the show - and I'm convinced that this problem, this lack of subtlety, pervades through out. This poor standard of writing is unacceptable and to do it to Tolkien is downright disgusting.
Reject this as trash. Expensive trash.
If they is how they based their entire script writing off of then they seriously need to check into a mental ward. Do Tolkien fans really care about that?
And then Nori the Harfoot comes forth at the battle against Sauron, for she was actually the Avatar, bender of all 4 Elements. 🧘🏻💨🔥💧🪨
I didn't even notice all that stuff. Never read the books, only know the movie. In my opinion I'd say the show is an interesting fantasy show, but a trash LOTR show. You get me? Like, it doesn't feel connected to the movies at all in terms of character designs, and overall feel, but it is an interesting fantasy show nonetheless.
The way I see it, people should watch it simply as an interesting fantasy show. At best it's a VERY high budget fan made LOTR inspired show. Like, if they took out the LOTR references and replaced them with other terms and names, the show would be seen reviewed differently.
I don't think it's Gandalf tbf
Where the f do those element things come from though?
"Do u know why a -ship- _shit_ floats &a stone does not?"
Every. Time. It's ALL I hear! 😆
It feels good to know people are still using JonTron's clips in their videos. God bless this man.
Man, Theoden has to be one of the best characters ever written.
no, harvey weinstein is
I too sampled episode 1: I pirated it, watched a few minutes and deleted it.
I liked the scene where galadriel...
Hmm, i dont know how the finish this sentence...
I got goosbumps when the black dwarf woman stood on a rock qouting Martin Luther King, and the harfoots started tribal dancing as a protest against Sauron’s colonial evil. Such embodiment of the Tolkien spirit!
Yes all the nazis having so much fun with this show. Glad you are being edgy once more.
In the Amazon Appendices, which this show is based on, this dance is called "Shirking" based on ancient Harfoot dance rituals. Later the much more white, and thus, devolved, hobbits would appropriate the name into their gentrified place of dwelling "Shire"
"Do you know why a ship floats, and a stone cannot?"
"Physics."
"The ship has a secret."
"No... I'm pretty sure it's physics."
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Ngl I think it may be because wood is less dense than water and a stone is more fucking dense, this is coming from an A-level physics student.
But hey what would I know? Its obviously magic or some shit…
Hope they never saw pumice then.
Is physics like some magic thing?
@@ProtocolAbyss Da fuck are you talking about? Wood is less dense than water??? I wanna see a plank of plywood swim without it having air enclosed in it
The problem with the 'forbidden' romance between Bronwyn and Arondir is not that it's 'forbidden' (which it's not) or doomed to end in tragedy. It's that every single one of the two times it happened (by the time of the events of ROP) the love between an immortal Elf and a mortal human was fate, tied closely to the Doom of Noldor and the fate of Middle-Earth. It's not rare because it's frowned upon or because elves and people dislike each other, but because it's SO DAM UNUSUAL it literally CHANGES THE WORLD.
Amazon managed to bring the scale down to a mundane teenagers-in-love level, and I could never forgive them for it.
Or for many things more.
11:00 -"conflicted",...she has the same expression what's-her-name had when she said..."how DARE you!".🤣,..."doogie elron"...hehehe😂
When the Producer states a fantasy show needs to reflect reality, they should be fired on the spot. No one wants to see the hero taking the trash out and folding socks.
I agree, this is probably the dumbest take anyone can have about the fantasy genre.
Weak justification to shoehorn in personal politics and nothing more.
Yep, a show set on a different, magical, medieval world doesn’t have to reflect the idealised opinions of privileged, well-paid, 21st century Hollywood-dwelling Americans.
Probably because directors have a personal hatred for what Tolkien represents, he appreciated beauty, nature, harmony and European people and history, these directors want to work against those things, they want to see ugliness, urban cities, men and women split, ethnic and historical replacement,
It kills me how little the elves in this seem like elves. Lol. Like they portray them as useless in battle and stupid. The troll scene at the beginning you see multiple elves just stand there in front of it without moving and let's it kill them lmao. It's so un-lotr it's sad
I get what your saying but tbf, they did just ice climb a mountain. Not exactly going to be combat ready after that even if you have Ainur in your bloodline. Hence why they left her, they were exhausted and had no fight for the cause anymore. I'm just hoping Galadriel becomes a better leader but I think they've written her so single minded atm so she had a character arc
Yeah you are right. In the book Silmarillion there was a big fight outside Angband where Morgoth sent a lot of monsters, including a dragon (Glaurung) and probably a few Balrogs to fight the elves. The elves killed most of them, although in the end thousands of elves died. I'm pretty sure they would have known how to kill one icetroll.
@@thegrayknight71 You are a symptom of both the creator of this video and his fanbase. Stupid, uninformed, racist poser fans. There were never '100' balrogs. it was stated clearly that there were no more than 7 balrogs in the history of the Maiar. You like the rest of this guys following are actually disgusting, bringing down a series which pays homage to people that ACTUALLY READ THE BOOKS to manufacture your own farcical opinions of what happened. the 'elves' did not charge and slay all 100 balrogs, they (5 or so not including those that escaped into the ground like durin's bane) were killed over the course of the great battle / War of wrath that tookplace outside of angband Feanor, described as one of illuvatar's mightiest children was slain by gothmog the lord of the balrogs. Get your facts right. To you and basically every other clown in this thread and the one making the video - shut the fuck up and fuck off from our franchise, you conceded whiny pricks.
they needed GuyLad-riel to shine!
@@thegrayknight71 Wait wait wait. Which battle would that be again? Tolkien stated in his letters that Balrogs were so powerful and special(same tier as Sauron and Gandalf), that there were no more than 20. Plus slaying a Balrog was such a big deal, it is noted that before War of Wrath only two were beaten, both in the Sack of Gondolin.