r/Maliciouscompliance "ANSWER THE PHONE!" "I'm deaf, but ok"
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 13. 11. 2020
- r/Maliciouscompliance In today's story, OP is faced with a truly frustrating customer service experience. A company requires OP to call in to cancel her subscription service. The problem? OP is deaf! She literally can't communicate with the representative over the phone. Her husband tries to explain that, but it just doesn't matter. They continue to insist to speak to the deaf person on the phone. Idiots!
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when I was struggling with an eating disorder, my aunt told me a story from when she was in her thirties, sharing high school and college photos with a (now ex) friend. She was wearing a crop top in one picture, so her ribs and hips were fully visible, and her friend remarked about how pretty and skinny she "used to be" and asked how she did it. My aunt stared her dead in the eyes and said: "I was homeless, eating out of dumpsters, and addicted to heroin." Needless to say her friend shut up about it.
I'm terrible with words so I'll simply describe my huge ass grin on my face and the gradual clapping my internal monologue is creating.
I would've PAID to see your aunt's ex-friend's face when she delivered that line!
Oh that must have been a sight worth seeing!!
@@LittleAyumi erm...no... Where did I say it was funny?
Wow!
That certainly put her in her place!
That widow "diet" story reminded me of something. When I was in college a friend of mine had an unexpected financial emergency and it affected her food budget for months. Someone she hadn't seen in a while commented on how thin she looked and asked "What diet are you on?"
My friend answered simply with "Poverty."
Well at least that was an accident
Oh god, that's brutal.
the only problem i have is hypercholesterolemia(super common). I don't eat too much cuz I feel i don't have too, then when my anxiety likes to be all "wippity woppity", my body just decides either: E AT E V E R Y THI N G YO U S E E, or, "stop stop, you shouldn't eat the next 15 hours(its relative tho)". Sometimes i lose so many pounds that my bras are literally too loose to me to wear it, even if i have medium breasts (normally drops sweetly to 32 or less). Then, my body just decides: " Oop, made a mistake hehe" And my body starts do gain weight more until i return to normal. I really don't get too many pounds after this to be chubby, but my mom tries to force me to get chubby, but no matter how I try, my body most of the times doesn't let me pass more then 47kg, if it passes, after some weeks will drop down again. The healthy look that I've ever had was when i had 66kg. It was a good time. Did get nauseous somewhat? Yes. Was it worthy? Of course!
Now, by the time I'm writing this, im all wobbly wobbly in my bed, cuz i ate too much last night and my body craves for more even if I don't want to. I don't think I should eat more.
@@aguy2990 wdym by at least
@@kittenmimi5326 they werenât trying to be rude
Imagine writing the email "My teacher made me have my camera on for a surgery and scolded me for obeying her."
Not a surgery, there was a tube in her chest...
@@nikkiofthevalley
Well, technically ...
Anything to do with a CL is serious, as, since it more or less is _directly_ linked to the heart, any risk of infection has to be mitigated against. Unlike a IV, you have to have either a Nursing Practitioner, at least, or a doctor, on constant hand, to ensure the direct transfusion goes without a hitch, and aseptic techniques are complied with.
So, whilst not directly surgery, it does require a higher than usual level of medical care, especially using experienced staff who know exactly what they are doing ...
@@nigelft Still not surgery.
@@firesong7825 but it is a MEDICAL PROCEDURE, which should be protected from a stupid teacher trying to assert her authority over a clearly ill young woman!
@@nikkiofthevalley
surgery
/ËsÉËdÊ(É)ri/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
the branch of medical practice that treats injuries, diseases, and deformities by the physical removal, repair, or readjustment of organs and tissues, often involving cutting into the body.
"cardiac surgery"
2.
a PLACE where a doctor, dentist, or other medical practitioner treats or advises patients.
swap "for a" to "while in" ".. a surgery" and the sentence is perfectly correct..regardless
I once asked a teacher in my school why the dress code was so strict.
And I swear the answer I got was: "So the teacher's don't get distracted" Amazing coming from my fifth grade teacher.
If any member of staff is getting distracted by what students are wearing and what's exposed, then they should NOT be working anywhere near any children, ever.
Fucking pedos
@@WolfgangDoW that was my train of thought as well
Wow, what an interesting and somewhat round-about way of telling everyone, 'hi, we hire pedophiles to teach your kids'.
As a teacher that was having an extremely bad day, I replied "Because adults in our society really, really want to teach you guys that appearance is the only thing that matters and your worth and abilities as an individual are not valuable if you don't conform with others' idea of comfort".
I've never had more letters of complaints from parents, but it was worth it.
yikes
"I'm sorry that you forcing me to have my camera on and seeing exactly what I said you would see made *you* uncomfortable."
"Think of it as a 'teaching' moment."
This reminds me of when people read labeled and tagged fanfics then complain about something in it. Lmao itâs tagged donât like donât read if you can read the story you can read the labels
@@yukitsuki1412 I once had someone complain that "this movie isnt suitable for my child" the kid was 10 and the movie was an 18.
Like what did they expect.
@@MrSqurk It's a common thing with parents unfortunately, one I specifically hear a lot duo to liking videogames (which do have a age rating like most things but apparently it's too much trouble to read).
Parents leave kids with full access to the internet and a computer and then want to hold companies responsible for not baby sitting their kids.
@@MrSqurk reminds me of a petition this lady posted on twitter to allow her son to watch the movie deadpool and deadpool commented "your son cant watch my movie and your moms a w***e" lol i mean he swears like 10 sailors and their plenty of blood, gore, killing and some weirdness to do with wades healing and looks. also ryans a little too much like deadpool in attitude, filter and humor, hes a real life deadpool. :D
Teacher: "You need to keep your camera on, so I will know that you are present in class."
OP: *Keeps camera on*
Also teacher: "You made me uncomfortable during class and you're being unprofessional!"
OP basically did what the teacher said. I would've replied the email with "Tough shit", the same reply she gave.
Pretty much.
Also, if that was in the US, that was a pretty big HIPPA violation.
@@spectrelead that's what I was thinking.
"How dare you do exactly what I told you to do"
So what do you want me to do about it?
Hope OP had it in writing as teacher hold him to keep the camera on.
Not only a HIPPA violation, but most medical facilities do not allow video camera in use during medical treatment. My dialysis clinic has signs all over saying that photos and videos are strictly prohibited.
The trick with rules like: "belts must be worn through every belt loop" is that you can technically wear a belt per loop, so a person ends up wearing like 6 to 9 belts.
lmao, it'd be more accurate, too.
kinda like that one person who made their school implement rules like "one tie per student" and "one student per tie"
Ah, anime adaptation of the rules
@@charnor2727 aka autism
Guilty Gear IRL
Company: "Okay, just sign here."
Armless Person: "Okay."
*places pen in mouth*
@@slate1496 *manages to write down name (albeit shaky)* this good?
*bellybutton*
then proceed to try to shake hands~
*my toes*
"My time has come"
That first story reminded me of when, somehow, a credit card got put in my sister's name when she was 3 weeks old. My dad called to cancel the card, but the lady needed to speak to the account holder. So my dad asked: "do you want her to burp or cry into the phone?"
The card got cancelled.
>"do you want her to burp or cry into the phone?"
This made me giggle uncontrollably
This is why one-size-fits-all policies are stupid. There are always exceptions, and you need to be able to adapt to those exceptions, however unlikely they are. Trying to apply one standard for every single individual is only going to cause problems.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 my tiny brain can't comprehend this right now, can you dumb it down a couple notches?
@@kristentodoroki5688 can't tell if you're sarcastic or serious.
In the event you are serious, people should use their brain instead of strictly relying on policy.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 Thanks! That makes a lot more sense now!
Teacher:"you made me uncomfortable"
"Yeah? Deal with it"
âTough luckâ
Teacher "You made me uncomfortable"
"Yeah? Well my attorney's about to make you gut-sick"
If this student can live with this discomfort, you can put on your big girl (or boy) britches long enough to look at it.
Teacher: OP, you made me uncomfortable
OP: yeah...YOU MADE ME DO IT....Don't say I didn't warn you
Teacher: you made me uncomfortable.
OP: yeah you made me uncomfortable too.
The story about the deaf lady attempting to cancel her subscription reminds me of when I was attempting to get an internet issue fixed for my mother who was in her late 70âs and about as tech savvy as you would expect. I rang the support centre with my mother next to me and despite answering all the questions she insisted on dealing directly with my mother so I decided to comply and handed the phone over - it was quite amusing listening to her struggle for 10min with a person who didnât even know what a modem was let alone how to switch it on or off or how to plug a cable in, I could hear the frustration building up in the ladyâs voice until after about 10 min she conceded defeat and quietly asked her to put me back on.
Former Help desk agent here. In my country the service must provide technical support if the customer can pass the security check (we need it for the administration) and if the solution does not cross the GDPR regulations and money (which obviously the subscriber would pay for) by law the service must provide assistance - if the customer is willing to assist as well. Unfortunately for cancelling something it is a hard process, as I had to forward these people to the department, as they are obliged to provide a letter of authority or official papers and as my partner's grandpa have died during COVID and his grandma is still grieving and dealing with services to be on her name, it lacks emphaty - still, don't forget that it is not the agent's decision, we would love to help, my heart goes and aches for customers having difficult times and being mistreated, but policies tie our hands and we don't wanna lose our jobs in a collapsing economy (I live in Hungary, feel free to ask further questions :))
Also, as many companies are more open minded and realizing they have disabled customers, they usually provide at least the possibility for the customer to deal with administration in person (cancellation and subscription cannot be made with POA)
I love how for the one shirt violation sent OP on a year long massacre of that schools dress code. I mean the amount of time and effort dedicated to it just shows how much they could achieve
I call bs on that unless the kid have rich parents who doesnât care what he buys or wears to school, all the money he must have spent making up all those outfits only to probably throw them away once the year is over is ridiculous.
@@NaeniaNightingale u do realize u can create ur own stuff, like paper mache and crafts for some stuff, couldve also gotten some crafting help from their parents.
"Are you discriminating against the disabled? I'm sure a lawyer will easily take this slam dunk of a case of violating the ACA." Cue a manager in 2 minutes.
Exactly. This company is violating law due to the requirement of equal opportunity for disabled. Violation: disability discrimination.
ADA-violations are a nightmare, I am a little surprised more webstores and sites are not sued for violating the ADA.
You'd get an escalation agent explaining that a tty service, or the ability to go to a physical location exists and that no, we aren't legally allowed to speak to someone that isn't on the account.
A lawyer would tell you the same.
@@darreny1375 No it isn't. The company isn't required to tell you about services that exist, but there are services that exist to help with that. The company is required to keep the security of the account secure.
A. tty
b. nominate someone, while in a location that can speak on your behalf
c go to physical location.
d. ask the company how they make allowances for disabilities like this.
e. stop screaming and demeaning at csrs just following their job because yall can't do the proper research, or ask the question.
I was kind of hoping the brother would give the phone to his sister, and every time the phone lady would talk, the sister would yell "WHAT? I'M DEAF!"
Sadly not all deaf people speak and most canât speak properly. Itâs sad how society accommodates only those who are completely ânormalâ does culto considering how earphones while make a ton of deaf people out generation as older people.
We have kind of a similar name :0
@@serenetohru847 We do lol
But...how would she know when the phone lady talked?
@@TheMysty46 She's probably just yell that she couldn't hear the lady whenever possible.
I'm Deaf, and I was cackling at the story of the subscription. What I probably would've done is try to speak as best as I could (if I had somewhat of a noise I can make) and have my brother put it on speakerphone and translate for me.
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you call a relay service first? I'm a little confused why some people don't try that first.
@@alpyki2588 Because we'd assume that having a family member present would be enough? Why should someone have to pay another company money just to cancel a subscription? Sounds like an ADA violation to me.
I was thinking the same, most deaf people _can_ still talk comprehensively enough, so just put the phone on speaker (to avoid having to navigate your heads and phone for everything to work out), and have the brother sign what the company idiot is saying... Ah, well ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
"You want to speak to a deaf person?"
"YES!"
-666 IQ
Honestly I wish they'd just put the phone on the table and then picked it back up like 5-10 minutes later and been like "so yeah she's deaf"
I'm almost certain that's an ADA violation
@@GiordanDiodato It is, it's a violation of disability discrimination
I do verifiation at a third party processor, so the answer is yes. I can't speak to friends, family etc. If the person is deaf, then I refer to a tty service, or they can have the bank call in for them.
The deaf person could also go into a phsyical location for the cable and ask them to remove the sports package. There were options.
To be fair the call centre was probably being forced to comply with standard operating procedures. Sometimes those can get dumb and the employees can't do anything about it.
My dad would have a similar story to the first one. His mother forgot to cancel a subscription before she died, so when the bills continued coming through, he tried to cancel it and when he tried explaining they can't talk to her because she's dead, their response was simply "sorry, we can't help you". A few months later, my dad calls them again and this time offers a 'forwarding address', to which they replied "but that's a graveyard" "Yeah, that's where we put dead people on this planet, what ****ing planet are you from?"
I had a friend with similar issues. His name is gender neutral, but VERY heavy feminine leaning. it's similar to, but not, Kelley. So... Half the time when he calls, he has to escalate, because "You're clearly a man, and no parent would name their son Kelley, that's a girls name!"
@@synthwolfe8906 Sounds like some fun discrimination stuff! Lawsuit worthy!
As someone with an eating disorder, I was worried about the post at first but the second she offered tips I could t stop laughing and just repeatedly said ânoooooâ over and over and over again. Thatâs glorious
student: im gonna be doing something i dont want others to see
teacher: your camera needs to be on
also the teacher: you were disturbing me
student: not my fault
So glad that this outrageous business practice has recently been outlawed in Germany (and I believe the whole of the EU, IIRC it was based on a EU guideline): Any paid service that can be booked via phone or e-mail must be possible to be terminated the same way with no additional formal requirements on the consumer's side.
Not to mention, in America you could argue ADA rights and get the company into *serious* liability issues for not reasonably accommodating someone with a disability (only allowing subscriptions to be canceled over the phone, not allowing a family member to assist them)
What's weird about dress codes is that teachers are usually the ones getting distracted. Think what you will
You're clearly a woman, so allow me to translate: If you wear a mini skirt or whatever, you are cat calling every man and boy who can see you. Your hypocrisy is unending, and it's time to pay for those rights and opportunities with some responsibility, after all, that's all male privilege really is, responsibility.
@@hlaw2830 Calm Down Sam Brown.
Go have this stupid arguement somewhere relevant.
@@MrSqurk Imagine calling equality stupid while white knighting in CZcams comments. Stay lonely.
@@hlaw2830 you are tripping. Your comment has no relevance to what the OP said, which is what I was talking about. Good luck with all your gay thoughts.
Ps. I am calling you stupid not "equality" and calling me a white knight is laughable, I just don't stand morons.
@@MrSqurk It's totally relevant, but I guess an incel like you wouldn't understand human sexuality.
4:17 OMG Almost the exact same happened to me! I had just got upper jaw surgery and my teacher said I had to turn on my camera (there was blood, stitches, and half my face was swelling uncontrollably). I refused to turn it on and when I explained to her the situation she called it an excuse and didn't believe me. So the teacher called home because I was "ditching class". The next day I was required to have an in person meeting with my teacher, the principal, and my parents (for ditching class then making up "obviously fake" excuses). The principle even had a doctor's note and thought it was fake! đ€Šđ»ââïžWelp, oh well. My parents could have sorted this out of their own without the meeting but me and my dad had a better idea. We went to the meeting. Unfortunatelyly the swelling had gone down a bit but by no means did I look normal. Me and my dad walked into that meet and the look on the teacher and principle's face has worth all the strange looks I got on the way. Lets just say that teacher didn't make anyone turn on their cameras again.
You should have just turned it on and seen his/her horrified face
Omg that teacher with the sick kid. I canât imagine how I would have handled that if I was still in classes while doing chemo and multiple blood infusions a week, Iâd have been mortified. Not to mention feeling extremely exposed. I often ended up with blood running down from my port because of how thin my blood was and...I donât get embarrassed easily...but I would never have been able to do that. It was already a very vulnerable time and I was already extremely exposed.
Having a port is not much fun; my wife still has one and she will always have one since she's had cancer twice so has gone through the chemo, the radiation and the surgeries.
@@Harry-zz2ohsame here. I have an aggressive form of chronic lymphocytic leukemia (though thankfully it isnât richters yet) my port and I are a package deal till the end lol. I always freak people out because they expect to see someone who is more maturely aged, and then there is me, the 28 year old đ
@@karbarson3742 It is a real challenge but keep your head up. Maybe a cure will come along soon. I have my own medical challenges but I'm surviving. None of them will kill me outright, but the side affects can be a PITA. Best wishes.
A deaf friend of mine. Needed to speak to her house loan company because of a divorce. They wouldn't let a friend speak/negotiate for her unless we signed formal papers through a lawyer! I was so frustrated trying to negotiate. I called and said I was her, but talking through a translation machine. They accepted it. She now does this with anyone who calls for her. All they care is you say yes it's me. It's to cover the company legally. They need to find a better way for the deaf, because not everyone can afford the fancy machines.
These companies are absolutely ridiculous I can remember when my grandad died and I tried to cancel his phone but they wouldn't let me do it and kept saying they need to talk to him I said he's dead how can you talk to a dead person but she kept on saying there's nothing she can do long story short I spoke to a different person emailed a copy of the death certificate and it got cancelled but the women got in trouble for how she behaved and didn't try to fix the situation đ
U didnt tell her to try ouija board ?
This happened when my mum died and we were trying to change our WIFI into my dads name, they wouldn't let us do it cause they needed to talk to my mum we told them she was dead and they kept saying they need to talk to her, we even emailed them with her death certificate and they still wouldn't do anything about it, we could have cancelled it but we'd have been without WIFI for a couple of months before they'd sort it out so we left it, it's been 3 years now and the WIFI is still in my mums name
Lmao honestly it only takes 1 brain cell to use common sense. But appearently people have none like that women.
@@toxicprincess9717 its crazy how stupid they and insensitive they can be the last thing people want to be doing after someone dies is going through and cancelling all their stuff and these companies make an already upsetting and stressful situation even worse
@@dickysatria7268 dam man why didn't I think of that đ thats a good one I would say ill use it next time but I hope I don't have to ever use it đ
how i would have handled that cable tv phone opererator
"So what you're saying is that your company discriminates against the hearing impaired and keeps charging them for a package because they cannot cancel it over the phone because they cannot hear? How do I file a complaint?"
Yeah, if that's in the US, then that can definitely be filed as ADA non-complient which is a federal offense.
Or tell em, "Cable company discriminates against deaf people" will look quite nice on tomorrows FRONT page in the local paper.
Yep. That ought to do the trick.
They likely have a fine print in one of the agreements stating you can mail for a request form to mail back to change things.
Edit: To clarify this is scum of the earth tactics, I am not defending them.
@@abonynge
seems like a good way to get a few more payments out of a customer before they find it in the in-box.
always read the fine print.
basic point is that if she set it up online the option to cancel should also be online.
(hate typing on my phone, always mess something up fixing errors)
Unbelievable that someone would say they were uncomfortable because they saw someone with a medical condition basically just existing
the audacity of teachers really does know no bounds.
Its pretty believable unfortunately
It can be an unfortunate reminder of human frailty, which I understand, but she insisted on seeing it, so she lost her right to complain about any discomfort it brought her xD
Many times, the uncomfortable reminders are easily hidden, while the familiar reminders aren't uncomfortable. She insisted on being exposed to a less obvious reminder, and so she has no one but herself to blame. What's scummy is that she tried to blame the source of the reminder, despite being warned.
4:58 yeah the teacher would actually be in a violation of patient confidentiality
The "open toe" policy actually has safety reasons behind it since anything from laboratory classes to your group mate dropping scissors off the table can be a liability (and sure, some schools actually care). Kids with recess could also have issues with open toed shoes, getting them caught in playground equipment or tripping on the fronts.
I was an uncoordinated child...now an uncoordinated adult. My dad was my/an uncoordinated music teacher, though, and regularly walked right off the end of the risers at the front of the class or tripped on electrical cords when they were hooked back up after we had events, but before they got taped to the carpet. He had L&I, though. Students don't. Plenty of ways for students to have accidents before they become adults without needing to add risk of losing toes.
@David Reads because it would be illogical.
Rslash is an idiot sometimes.
My elementary school required closed toe shoes during recess since it was 3rd grade to 6th grade and kids might step on each otherâs toes while playing
@@EvaHoshizora sometimes rslash can be wrong indeed. Quite many times I might add.
@@EvaHoshizora I think since heâs read so many Karen stories, his mind automatically goes to the most absurd explanation he can think of
I can definitely understand it with chemistry classes and such, but just kids at a playground is a little too over the top for me. Kids shouldn't be protected from EVERYTHING. If they can wear them outside of school while playing, they should be able to at school too. Kids are gonna fall over, scratch themselves, break bones and get their teeth knocked out (like my brother who had his 2 front teeth yanked out from the soccer goal nets). Stuff like this happens to kids all the time. It's how they learn to be careful on their own.
High school teacher here responding to questioning the open-toed sandal policy: This is a safety concern. If there were a fire or other disaster, it is reasonable to assume that most footwear with exposure would be difficult to run in. There is also the risk that toes can literally be stepped on and broken, which the school would be liable for.
Agree, but you'd think they would have banned high heels for the same reason...
@@lulu_9000 Many schools do. I have seen schools where teachers aren't even allowed more than 1.5 inches of lift.
Edit: the "1.5 inches of lift" is to accommodate boots
Our school had the no open toes during gym or in the shop classes. The rest of the time it was free game.
Dress codes are misogynistic by nature, and made to mainly control the females.
@@amycaires8499 Yikes. You have some issues if you honestly think its unfair to be pushed towards dressing in standard gender neutral clothing. I can only imagine how upset you would be if you had to wear a strict uniform.
The student that rocked the boat on the dress code. Loved it. Itâs amazing how one child & think of something & keep it up until something changes.My oldest grandson had a habit of biting our toes when he was a baby. Had to watch the toes around him.
I love how the principal just said "you know what fuck it" to that girl and let her go
School Dress Code
I can see the âno open toeâ shoe rule being a thing since we have it at work.
Itâs not a âanti sexyâ rule, itâs an actual safety rule to protect your toes from chemicals, heavy objects, and sharp objects. And considering my class had shop class, art class, and photography... yeah.
Also open toed sandals r dum
@@iamlordstarbuilder5595 have you ever seen closed toe sandals?
Kinda how they don't let you roam junkyards barefoot. Huge liability issue.
In that case, it should have been a "no open-toed shoe" rule, and not a "No open-toed SANDAL" rule.
@StarBird I totally agree
It's always great when a crappy manager asks you to do an important shift and your like "nah man, I don't work for you anymore". The look of dread on the managers face would be priceless
my husband died 2 years ago and a company wouldn't take his death certificate to take him off the account. So I called and said I was him, when I was told you sound like a female, I yelled, how dare you not know my pronouns. I identify as a man, I demand to speak to your manager. They took his name off, no more problems.
To answer your question about opened toed shoes, it actually makes sense when you have science class. As you may be dealing with chemicals or glassware that could damage unprotected skin.
The Deaf cable story sounds like a pending ADA case.
Most people with hearing disabilities can get a phone service that helps them make calls. I work at a call center and deal with them often. Itâs actually pretty interesting. Itâs a video phone.
@@lorelei4792 i'm aware of captel phones, my grandfather had one.
@@lorelei4792 True but if the client can't physically speak on the phone for any reason, the company should comply. Honestly, though, it sounds as if the customer service person was so heinously stupid they likely didn't know the ttdy phones even exist & just expected a deaf person to magically hear them
Lol
@@lorelei4792 some people aren't comfortable sharing personal information to a relay person.
The open toe rule is mostly for safety. But if youâre not in lab that day, then I never understood why it mattered that much lol
Agreed, came to say just such and just liked yours instead.
Open toed shoes can cause a safety issue if you need to evacuate the building quickly. It's hard to write by laws for one type of open toe shoe (a flip-flop not safe to run in) or another, so it's a blanket rule of no open toes for all.
Anything could happen that would make your open toes a liability for the school. Say there's a nail sticking out somewhere that slashes your feet open because you're in sandals or flip flops, the school would be liable for that. They just do it to cover their asses.
Itâs a weird rule to have at a normal high school, but in math/science center schools that have a lot of lab classes, it definitely makes a lot more sense.
It was a rule at my old elementary school because it was grades 3 to 6 and 9 year olds arenât the safest, you could wear open toe shoes but you couldnât go on the blacktop or the field/playground with them on
Books... Bags... Other peopleâs feet... Rolling equipment carts... Cafeteria... Thereâs all sorts of health and safety reasons that open-toe shoes - and technically open-backed shoes like crocks - violate.
2:38 I mean, you could always say â Nicolas here, whatâs up?â Instead of Nicole to make them feel even more like they misgendered someone đ
Or just scream "it's ma'am!" every time they call you sir. In this day and age they will bend over backwards to avoid a lawsuit.
@@justinwhite2725 not a lawsuit, maybe a complaint. But yeah. Unless the person who picked up is a jerk.
New title: 18 minutes of people being chaotic good
Rslash: 19 degrees Fahrenheit
Me, a Russian: ugh
Rslash: for all of my non-American fans, it's negavite seven Celsius
Me: _FINALLY_
Sorry, but *Celsius
@@nikkiofthevalley yup thanks fucking typos hate em
As an American I can say Celsius is easier to calculate and stuff.
@@Mystery-Wolf definitely!
not to mention it makes actual sense: 0 is for the freezing point of water, 100 is for the boiling point of water
Iâm American so I find Fahrenheit easier but I will agree it sometimes does not make sense
Malicious compliance is my favourite! This is the best mood booster in the morning
This is what I listen to while making/drinking my coffee on the weekends
Shouldn't YOU be wooorking? đ€Ł
What is mood boostin about people being fucking idiots and still thinking they are in the right even when they literally get arrested by the police (not a specfic story, this just happens a lot, in his videos that is)
@@mortarman83095 cause it's just funny
@@anonymous-mi8su also like that one. And relationship advice. Always either weird or interesting
Are schools still sticklers for shoulders being exposed? XD I remember all friends joking about how our bare shoulders are sooooo distracting. How can I focus on a teacher when there's an exposed SHOULDER in front of me?!
I know this from teenagerhood, that it wouldn't matter WHAT a girl wore, just the things I was imagining was enough to distract me in class. Go try to legislate against puberty.
I didn't have that problem in school, as I went to an all male boarding school!
I'm absolutely dying at the dress code story. đđ€Ł
Fun fact: We DONT know RSlashâs name, but we know his wifeâs name
Edit: his name is Dabney Bailey
I don't know why but he gives me Jason vibes
Yes we do it's Dabacabb.
@@rosieposie1760 I thought that was his gaming channel name?
@ăGurjot Her name is Nicole
@@nerderiffic8682 nah, he wouldn't reply with it if so
Former teacher here. I always thought heavily restrictive dress codes, especially ones that focus primarily on girls, are ridiculous. If a guy is the type to let himself get distracted by a girl, he'd get distracted by a full niqab. Students like that are just looking to get distracted. Hell, even if there are no girls in the class, guys like that will find something else to distract themselves with.
Even outlandish clothing is typically only a distraction for a couple minutes at the beginning of class unless the teacher makes a huge deal out of it, in which case it becomes the talk of the school for the rest of the day.
It's all ridiculous, and frankly quite sexist.
Exactly! Thank you!
"My teacher FORCED me to share PRIVATE information with my ENTIRE class and then SCOLDED me for it" Fastest way to lose a job
Its just like how my big sister was forced to change because her BRA STRAP was showing a tiny bit and her MALE Teacher got mad at her. Like why was he even focused on it? đ€
Many men, but especially teenage boys, are hardwired to notice things like a bra strap, the clothes a person wears or other things.
@@Harry-zz2oh Hi! Woman attracted to other women here. No theyâre fucking not.
@@reriykan Prove it.
Do something lesbian.
@@Harry-zz2oh Hi! Please stop supporting the whole 'boys will be boys' thing! You are a guy which means saying this is extremely rude! Also lots of guys that would look are gross straight men! Please kindly go do something else with your life
There's more important things to worry about than how the kids dress unless it is clearly not appropriate (see-through, way too short, low cut, etc..) But WTF cares if they wear a belt? Or if the shirt has a collar?
Small minded people more interested in inthier own power than the wellbeing and education or the pupils
That teacher was on a power trip, got caught in her own web, and refused to accept responsibility for her mandates. That teacher should be reviewed and fired.
It's common, I broke my right hand (my dominant one) around 11 years old, and one teacher insisted that I could write with my left, I tried and failed to turn in written work and homework with my garbage hand, I got a ton of detention. When my parents complained, the SOB had me sent off away from the class and marked me as absent and was disappointed that I could barely pass the tests for the classes he made me miss.
@ Sounds like you did the best you could given the circumstances, the world needs more teachers like you, ones who know how to be fair.
@@chaosreaver3597 Just like we see in the elections, there is a "select group" of people who have an "idea" of what "fair" is. To these people, "fair" means "getting their way," regardless of whether "their way" has been unearned and/or unmerited. Donald Trump and legislators on BOTH sides of the aisle don't surprise me in the least, because I have taught rich private school kids.
@ I won't touch American politics with a ten-foot barge pole at the moment (I actually miss Bush when looking at the current mess, he may of been an idiot but he was always clear about his actions) in any event you're right, fair is one of those subjective things decided arbitrarily by a small group of people, but in reference to you I meant how you judge a person's character, I sometimes have to do the same for my job (security supervisor) to screen out people who think being a security guard means you get a free pass to be a thug, you have to make sure the people you have working for you are efficient but fair (case and point, the woman I've pegged for replacing me if I get promoted doesn't run off the homeless from our building, she directs them to the building's air conditioning unit that kicks out a ton of heat and haves them leave by 5:30 in the morning with some information about local shelters, she only calls the cops if someone is violent or on really cold nights because spending time in a cell is better than freezing to death).
Iâve been in Amandaâs situation. I lost my voice due to sinus infection, completely. All I could do was hiss. And the only way to make an appointment at the student health center was over the phone. I needed medical help to be able to talk, and I needed to be able to talk to get help. In the end, I asked a friend to call from another state and pretend to be me. It worked lol.
I had always been told that the "no open toed shoes" rule was more for safety. It's easier to stub your toe or cut your feet if more of them are exposed.
The rest of those rules are bullcrap, though.
School: No toes, No shoulders, No sunglasses, No short shorts, No crazy hair, No crazy hair color
Also school: "wE cAn'T mAnDaTe StUdEnTs WeArInG mAsKs!"
Right??? You have the time to police at my school kids in the middle of winter on exam half days wearing pjs and bringing blankets to sleep in after said exams but not masks XD
@@biancarosner7576 Um, corona? Kinda what the masks are for
@@ecstaggic I think that person was agreeing with the original comment just meaning that âyea the rules are dumbâ
My school has a âMasks in Motionâ policy
@Politically Correct if you have a problem with the education system talk to the higher ups not complain to me.
LOL, The brother impersonating a non-deaf Amanda sounded kind of like a snooty Seto Kaiba. Also, I really hope Amanda and the brother complained to corporate.
Or go Seto Kaiba mode and buy the company just to fire them
Morgan, Douglas, thank you. You helped me remember an amazing show. I am infinitly grateful
@@bachboy678 Youâre welcome. Iâm glad to get a reply from one of my fellow Yu-Gi-Oh! fans.
@@morgandouglas6014 Yugioh is an amazing anime
@@jadedflames2809 đđđ»
For the open toed shoe rule, I was always told it was to avoid foot injury, an example I was given was a desk falling on the feet. The rule wasn't taken that serious in my school.
I have a disability that causes various symptoms, including voice issues. My voice can vary anything from being able to speak some days, to begin able to whisper, to being completely mute. I often have issues like the first story.
People will insist that they need me to verbally give permission for them to talk to my carer or family member no matter how much we try to explain that âbeing mute means you canât verbally say anythingâ!
I know they probably have a script that they canât deviate from so itâs not the fault of the person on the phone. Itâs the system that needs to catch up with the realisation that it is disability discrimination to not have some way around this for people who canât communicate by phone!
Im a female with a very high voice đđIve phoned for my husband
Easily fixed with a 'did you just assume my gender'
The thing about open toed shoes is to PROTECT the toes from being harmed not because they are distracting
in a lab, ok
outside a lab, why?
@@GiordanDiodato
Hallway rush, being clumsy, outdoor activities etc.
I'm a bit late to the party, but the anorexia one really got me.
I have anxiety and depression, and to top it all off Im bisexual in a 100% christian family, so during the holidays while everyone put on weight I lost 22pounds just like the anorexia redditor, when I talked to my mom about it she asked me what my secret was and I told her "try being gay in a conservative family, it works wonders"
I think I almost cried when RSlash said the thing about girls' toes. If I ever actually hear someone say this, I will die on the spot from lack of oxygen from laughing too hard.
My school had a very sensible dress code that applied to everyone. No shirts with straps more narrow than 2 or 3 inches, all shorts and skirts had to be longer than your fingertips with your arms relaxed at your sides. And no offensive designs could be shown on your shirt. What I and some other students ended up creating a need for was this stipulation. "Any person depicted on a piece of clothing must ALSO meet the dress code." AKA, no more Bikini model decals on our shirts.
My sister went through this when our mother died... the cable company insisted they had to speak our dead mother.
Ugh. This gives me rage. I'm sorry that happened.
@@LadyEowyn - I told her to tell the guy... "she's dead". My sister said he just stammered, apologized and mumbled. It ended up, since it was in her name, we just stopped paying the bill. Like she'd care about her credit score?
Had a similar situation, but here you can requisition a paper stating she is indeed deceased and that the holder can cancel services in her name, not sure what similar procedures other countries have.
"OK, get a ouija board, and say exactly this-"
My dad's been dead for over a decade and everything is still in his name cuz my mom couldn't deal with the hassel of changing everything and having to prove repeatedly that he was dead. We still get mail addressed to him almost every day too. So far we have not had any issues with anyone needing to speak to the account holder.
That meat manager at the end tho, bravo to them they were pretty amazing
That dress code story...
"Clothes worn for a single occasion are a costume, but if it's worn all day it's an outfit"?
So much for gym clothes...
The government would love to know about the deaf woman and phone thing. I'm pretty sure that's a violation.
I'm an authorized person on my father's accounts.
That's quite the violation of disability accessibility protections. One could make the argument that it's trying to exploit people with disabilities, because it does let them make a subscription but not cancel it
@@CaTastrophy427 Depends, was the rep trying to kick them over to the transcription services that many companies have for deaf people to work over the phone? They will literally translate everything via voice to text for the customer and most companies require some form of verbal confirmation to cancel services both from the rep reading a form of script in order to lay the ground work on what happens with the disconnect to the customer confirming "yes please cancel my service". This protects them, as it gives them ground in legal protection that service was for sure requested to be cancelled if the person tries to turn around and sue them. Unfortunately, untrustworthy people looking for an easy pay day are why so many companies have such harsh policies.
I'm also another person who the "shorts/skirts to your fingertips" rule would have been easy to abuse if I wanted (though I never did since I never wore skirts and preferred longer shorts anyway). So I was very amused by OP's malicious compliance on the dress code.
Yeah same. I never wanted to dress like that tho. My friend did and was always jealous of me because her hands reached to her knees. And yeah she got in trouble for dress code even tho it wouldve been reasonable.
I'm a dude, so it wasn't really an option, but I don't get why some people want to dress like that. Like, I can remember seeing people in HS dressed in shorts so short they're shirt covered them completely. Legit looked like one of those morning after scenes in a movie where the chick wears his shirt and nothing else.
@@MercuryA2000 Live and let live
@@slimecorn I agree. I'm not gonna judge them that bad for it. I'm just saying I don't understand it myself.
@@MercuryA2000 **their
I appreciate that you are actually reading it. Your little laughs are refreshing.
When I was in high school, 2 of my teachers were besties and broke the rules by wearing flip flops daily. Until one of them had her toes run over by a door. They never wore flip flops again. Thatâs why no open toed shoes.
the teacher making the student keep their camera on? yeesh. Not sure what country this in but my university (Australia) letâs you keep your camera off at your own discretion....I couldnât imagine a professed telling me to have my camera on whether I was in hospital or right after surgery đđ
also australian, we don't have to turn our cameras on if we don't want to. it is preferable for some teachers as it makes it easier for them to teach and feel more comfortable, but some teachers don't even turn their cameras on either. i generally put my camera on, but it depends on the class and how i am feeling that day.
I had one classmate who attended while sitting in his living room on the sofa, because that was the only seat in the house that was comfortable and had the ability to have his laptop and books on some variety of table-like surface in front of him. Others attended in whatever clothing - or lack thereof - they would wear when at home, because who cares if nobody sees. And nobody did see, because they kept their cameras (and mics) off, until one teacher went on mat leave and had a long-term sub come in, who demanded that everybody turn on their cameras and mics so she could be sure everyone was there and paying attention. Well, suddenly we had about a dozen people in pyjamas, half a dozen topless guys, one topless girl, and someone with his grandma in the background showing up.
Everyone was called unprofessional and made to change (off-camera, of course). The guy in his living room with grandma in the background was made to move to a different location where he would have privacy, like his bedroom. So he did for next class, once he got a setup in there that'd work. Next class, he turned on his camera to reveal a wall filled with buck-naked anime girls and furries in various mating positions. There weren't any regulations on what could be in the background of a person's physical location, only on zoom virtual backgrounds. Even so, he was made to move again. Bathroom: nope. Only bathroom in the house. Half-basement: nope. No sound insulation, the teacher was drowned out by the sound of the highway behind his house. Attic: insufficient internet. Everywhere else: shared space or occupied by working-from-home parents who actually needed to be in a private room.
@@CaTastrophy427 lmao, feels like karma to the teacher. If a student is unable to show their camera and is forced to, the teacher would have to put up with whatever they see, whether they like it it not. I don't understand teachers who force students to turn on their cameras
@@CaTastrophy427 This belongs on this sub lmao
Middle/Eastern European here. Our university doesn't even allow teachers to check attendance in online lectures. The only time we have to use a webcam and the professors are allowed to officially require it are during the exams. (Can be part of the requirements of the exam, so they can basically fail you if you don't have a webcam on. Has to be part of the course description at the start of the semester though.)
As a former call center employee, we were instructed to just take your word. If you had all the info and you claimed to be that person, we had to accept it. Let fraud handle any issues later
Dude the anorexia story reminded me of all those crappy parents who complimented a 4-11 year old me for being so skinny and my 4 year old self lacking a filter talking about my medication destroying my appetite and how doctors were worried for my health and how I never felt hungry and it sucked. The looks on their faces when they realizes they had just complimented a 4 year old for nearly dying.
I had a deaf roommate. I got so many phone calls for her. I told them she was deaf and they needed to text her.
America - The land of the free
Literally having a list of things you CANâT wear
I mean it's better than a list of things you can wear
The U.S.A the only part of world they're free Except from stupidity.
@@Kyara7 I mean my school had no dress code, we even were allowed to smoke on a specific spot of the school.
You know, had they enforced a no smoking policy the kids would just skip class, jump fences and smoke outside. That way they can remain at school and do classes at least.
I actually had a different experience when I had to cancel my momâs cable. Comcast is pretty much known for having the worst customer service, so I was pretty surprised at how accommodating they were. When they asked to speak with my mother, and I explained that she was incapacitated due to her illness, they just asked me a few extra questions, and arranged to cancel her service as soon as I returned the equipment. I dropped it off, service canceled, no muss, no fuss.
The school uniform story is absolutely incredible. She deserves the presidential medal for her services. Thatâs wifey!
I would literally be dresscoded for all of my clothing if I went to op's school. I would have nothing to wear lmao
I just realized, the creepy dress code things might be because of the old male teachers
And equally creepy old female teachers. That's a thing, you know
i hate to inform you that it probably is. :D
@@Cat-hw2ee and schools don't see a problem with saying it's too keep from teachers being distracted. Like, if you're hiring people who are staring at students in any way, maybe its your fault. One kid in my high-school tore into a teacher, because the teacher was looking at her ass and said "some kids have no morals".
That teacher was one of our special needs teachers. Im glad nobody got in trouble that day but holy shit.
I feel like the OP of the first story (if they live in the US) could pretty easily file an ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) complaint against that company.
Geez that one OP at 6:21 showed that snobby person. It's not fun to have that suffering and I hope that person never said another word to OP about weight. The things mentioned listed in the email sound so horrible especially all the puking! Poor OP.
Respect to the person who had surgery and still went to online school
I've had to pretend to be my husband before. I was trying to PAY his credit card and they wouldn't accept payment from me. They told me he had to call and I told them "good luck with that... he won't have a phone for like 6 months". So I hung up, called back, set up the account online (all with his blessing. This was before they automatically attached online banking).
The toe things isnât for the boys itâs from when kids used to play outside. Itâs a safety thing. One slip through and you down for the count.
The open toe rule is mostly for classes where a student is working with something that can 'potentially' get dropped, and as such damage the toes (metal work, wood work, chemistry, etc) and whilst usually those classes would also have a shoe policy of their own (steel toed boots, dress shoes, etc), it's usually better for every student across the board to have enclosed shoes rather than risk potentially being in class where said student's toes get burned, lacerated, or crushed
14:00 saw this on a tee shirt at Disney World on another video, also encompassing dress codes: âGrumpy State Debate Team: Weâre Right, Your Wrong. Debate Over.â I want one. Also fits âEliseâ
Why didnât her friend just wear a vest under her shirt tho?
We had to wear School Uniforms in the UK, so violating the âdress codeâ would def get you in trouble. I kinda feel that this made things a lot easier in a way...
The dress code was very clear.
It was usually things like Piercings or Hair Styles that got peeps sent home.
Hilariously, any uniform violation regarding clothes would, rather than being sent home, result in having to wear something from a clothes bin full of ancient âlost & foundâ clothes, the older clothes were usually more conservative, nice and stretchy, with many sizes available! For some reason, all the clothes were embarrassingly ugly...?
Violating the Shoe dress code, earned you a pair of Plimsolls to wear the whole day, and detention for first time offenders!
With the first story, I expected OP to say fine by me and give sister the phone! Iâm sure the customer service agent would have allowed OP to cancel the service on his sisterâs behalf.
My manager at valvoline tried to force me to pick up the phone. I am profoundly deaf. I couldn't hear it ring, much less understand anything customers would ask me. I explicitly stated in my resume that I am unable to take phone calls without an interpreter. HR knew that I need an interpreter for staff meetings. (never happened) Yes, I speak english, but goddamn if I can't understand a word people say half the time. Long story short, I ended up quitting my job there. For a company that touts how nondiscriminatory they are, there are some backward ass things happening there.
Our school tried to tell us that purses were back packs if you carried your text books or paper in them. Cue my malicious compliance.
It held my pens, pencils, calculator, scissors, white out, library books, ruler, crayons, markers, colored pencils, cellphone, clarinet cork wax, snacks, water bottle, socks, (did i mention i was carrying a hobo bag as a purse?) wallet, hair brush, deodorant, hair bands, perfume, lotion, lip balm, keys, key chains, pencil case with more pens and pencils, erasers, paperclips, binder clips, small tape dispenser, mini stapler, box of min stapler staples, glasses case, classes cleaner, post-its, candy, tissues, flash drives, flash cards, stress balls, book marks, female hygiene stuff, phone charger, headphones, and one time I also had a random t shirt in it.
My assistant principle hated it but couldnt tell me no since it did not contain paper or text books. Yes I carried this every day and no I dont regret it.
My school didnât have anything like the shoe rule, however the science teacher would not let us wear open toe shoes during labs
makes sense
Thatâs because if you donât and you get hurt then thay can sue
NOOOPE!! NOT A GOOD IDEA!! It's literally written in the safety guidelines in any kind of lab that you HAVE to wear closed toe shoes, boots, etc.
Edit: OH! Didn't see the wouldn't.. Sorry!
@@nikkiofthevalley lol
When my mom had cancer, she lost almost 100 lbs due to chemotherapy. Whenever people would gush and ask her what her âsecretâ was, she would say that they should try out that chemo diet.
I know the feeling. My wife has survived two bouts of cancer. Each time, she would lose weight which always made the Dr. concerned since she is only 5' to start with. At one point she was about 90 pounds. She is over the cancer but still suffers from the side effects of the chemo and radiation therapy. She is still alive, which is more important for all of us.
It called a HIPPA Violation. Go to the principal. Present evidence and sit back and watch her get fired. It a major violation that could end up with a federal lawsuit against the school and the teacher.
12:35 âOP had like a major foot fetish and a really hot teacherâ The look on my friend's face when she heard this after pulling out my headphones was priceless.
Thank you so much, this was the best random moment that happened to me this year đđđđđ
"This deaf person won't listen to us! How rude!"
Also happy early birthday, Rslash!
I think the sandle thing was so kids wonât get their feet hurt. Like stubbed toes etc.
Stunned toed can happen whether wearing open or closed toed shoes
With that dress code story, Iâm surprised the principal didnât have a flat-out *STROKE* from rage.
I have had my fair share of zoom meetings for school. But my teachers dont care if you turn of the camera as long as you can be heard when answering questions . Worse case scenario the teacher asks another student or answers it themself.
The open toed sandal thing is a trip hazard. It is less of a distraction thing but more of a insurance thing.
The one chick could have just put the tank under the long sleeved shirt.
I was thinking that too. Sounds like the principal didnât give her the chance.
@@TknoelTellsStories or she threw a fit instead of suggesting the shirt and tank switch
She still would've worn a tank top though. xD
Wow. The dress code one kinda hit home for me. My last day of my senior year in highschool one of the girls at my lunch table came to school in cosplay attire that had no shoulders (it had sleeves, i forget the name of the cut, and she looks like the dark magician girl from yugioh normally so just imagine her with a different outfit) and a pretty low cut, enough to the point where almost every dude was checking out her chest (my school dean was definitely one of them). Only way i know is at lunch he came by loudly told her it was against code (he did it from like 5 tables away and it was embarrassing) she told him how "they haven't fallen out at all" that day (i was with her all of lunch, trust me) he simply and kinda creepily responded with "make sure they don't." She was a sophmore and he was in his 40s-50s. Even the guys at the table were saying how hypocritical a statement it was. Nothing to my knowledge happened to him and he retired 6 years after the fact.
I would've just put the phone on speaker and had my deaf sister vocalize gibberish while I kept repeating "She's deaf you fool!"