Game Theory: You're WRONG About Ash's Pikachu! (Pokemon)

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    Today is the day, Theorists! The day that I, once and for all, prove that Ash's Pikachu is WEAK! That's right! There is no Level 100 here. Throughout the anime, Pikachu has proved to not be as strong of a contender as we were led to believe. Let's get into the evidence!
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  • @firefli9975
    @firefli9975 Před 2 lety +8055

    Treecko: **is green, looks grass-like, literally has tree in the name**
    Ash: *iS iT a WaTeR tYpE?*

    • @InvestmentIdea
      @InvestmentIdea Před 2 lety +15

      *czcams.com/video/k_JZs58CAQA/video.html* ,

    • @MbitaChizi
      @MbitaChizi Před 2 lety +17

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html

    • @siminak1866
      @siminak1866 Před 2 lety +177

      Ash really thinks a tree is a water reference -_-

    • @Gust3883
      @Gust3883 Před 2 lety +167

      No Ash, It's a grass type. What water Pokémon have you ever seen before that Is covered in green and has literally "tree" on their name?

    • @Chastikan
      @Chastikan Před 2 lety +8

      czcams.com/video/Ow3bMlScrzs/video.html

  • @CJ-mr8dn
    @CJ-mr8dn Před 2 lety +1836

    Team rocket : changes glasses
    Ash: *I've never met this man in my life*

    • @thai8590
      @thai8590 Před 2 lety +70

      The superman effect

    • @The360MlgNoscoper
      @The360MlgNoscoper Před 2 lety +9

      @@thai8590 The quote is from Loki(the character not the miniseries).

    • @braveheartjason812
      @braveheartjason812 Před 2 lety +43

      @@The360MlgNoscoper they’re taking about how superman puts on glasses and doesn’t get recognised, not who the quote is said by lmao

    • @themodestai9603
      @themodestai9603 Před 2 lety +1

      Gta police pov

    • @hilloldutta2378
      @hilloldutta2378 Před 2 lety +2

      Spy from tf2.

  • @void983
    @void983 Před rokem +571

    It would be halarious if it Turns out that Pikachu is actually Lv. 99 but the developers of the anime made Pikachu faint just for plot.

    • @martinw7217
      @martinw7217 Před rokem +19

      Pikachu's power got blocked..he gets his power back later in the episode

    • @to2wacze612
      @to2wacze612 Před rokem +4

      ​@akcapple you don't know that anime need to be coded?

    • @Tangorr60
      @Tangorr60 Před rokem +10

      @@martinw7217 no it wasn’t. His electric power was drained meaning he couldn’t use electric moves. But I’m sure a level 60 pikachu can easily solo a level 5 Snivy with iron tail and quick attack

    • @hcsjiren3871
      @hcsjiren3871 Před 8 měsíci +5

      literally the answer

    • @Infinite-INF
      @Infinite-INF Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Tangorr60
      matpat straight up proved that wrong in every way possible.

  • @rosehouse3713
    @rosehouse3713 Před rokem +175

    That killed me, I forgotten that ash once thought treecko was a water type. Like what?

    • @James-qu8jw
      @James-qu8jw Před 2 měsíci +2

      Literally says “tree” in his name 😂

  • @kaiba5271
    @kaiba5271 Před 2 lety +4743

    The snivy trainer gave him 95 rare candies off screen.

    • @stevegfx9312
      @stevegfx9312 Před 2 lety +492

      And kept spamming the b button so he wouldn’t evolve

    • @kayseri2005
      @kayseri2005 Před 2 lety +45

      No, in Unova, as got a “new start” so his Pikachu was lvl 5

    • @stevegfx9312
      @stevegfx9312 Před 2 lety +350

      @@kayseri2005 you missed the whole point of the video

    • @kayseri2005
      @kayseri2005 Před 2 lety +91

      @@stevegfx9312 I made this comment BEFORE watching the video. My bad

    • @stevegfx9312
      @stevegfx9312 Před 2 lety +54

      @@kayseri2005 it’s all good

  • @QuieroBaleadas
    @QuieroBaleadas Před 2 lety +3533

    “Jessie MatPat isn’t real. It can’t hurt you.”
    Jessie MatPat:

    • @MbitaChizi
      @MbitaChizi Před 2 lety +3

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html

    • @namanvevo
      @namanvevo Před 2 lety +14

      *GAME* is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 20k LIKES on my new song!! She definitely buy me a professional mic!! *Begging you GUYS!!* Please...I LOVE YOU! I'M NOT LYING! PLS!!

    • @chasidina
      @chasidina Před 2 lety +2

      yes

    • @maas2563
      @maas2563 Před 2 lety +13

      JessiePat

    • @shaylaking9032
      @shaylaking9032 Před 2 lety

      I don't get it

  • @Jan_Koopman
    @Jan_Koopman Před 9 měsíci +33

    I just love how you went from "Pikachu couldn't have lost against Snivy! His level is too high!" to "What was his level actually?" to "So how could he possibly lose to Snivy with such a high level?" to "HE COULDN'T HAVE LOST TO SNIVY! HIS LEVEL IS TOO HIGH!!"

  • @liselottedehaan9877
    @liselottedehaan9877 Před rokem +228

    Lets just be proud of this dude that watches EVERY episode for his viewers

    • @FireStrikerShadow
      @FireStrikerShadow Před rokem +1

      Any clue where to watch all the episodes

    • @Pyroflor
      @Pyroflor Před rokem +2

      @@FireStrikerShadow Why do you wanna watch them anyway? they are very repetitive.

    • @bolt227
      @bolt227 Před rokem +1

      @@Pyroflor well where do you watch them he wants to know

    • @shiota79
      @shiota79 Před rokem +1

      @@bolt227 If he wants to know, he can ask google.

    • @bolt227
      @bolt227 Před rokem +1

      @@shiota79 and wat if google is no help

  • @HelenaOfDetroit
    @HelenaOfDetroit Před 2 lety +10073

    Theory: Pikachu is smart enough to know how to pretend faint so other trainers can learn and feel better about themselves

    • @timwoods2852
      @timwoods2852 Před 2 lety +869

      "That's the only way it makes sense, and it probably isn't true."

    • @alessiobilleci7246
      @alessiobilleci7246 Před 2 lety +619

      Or he just fakes faint cuz he's lazy AF

    • @matthewwilliams8267
      @matthewwilliams8267 Před 2 lety +627

      I mean, Pikachu did faint on purpose with Paras. Maybe this time, it was a pity-faint, but with better acting

    • @potatoguy4287
      @potatoguy4287 Před 2 lety +88

      True matpat should do this one

    • @godismyjudge4964
      @godismyjudge4964 Před 2 lety +361

      It would make sense for pikachu to throw the match as this trainer was just starting out on their journey so pikachu threw the match trying to not crush the trainers dreams right out the gate. Honestly ash may have known too and played along as those 2 seem to have a near phychic relationship. Though ash is a pretty big idiot sooo….

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Před 2 lety +9172

    I love how MatPat knows that he's actually insane for calculating all of the xp gains and losses by literally watching every episode of the anime

  • @c.m.2732
    @c.m.2732 Před 2 lety +237

    Not only is it possible that Pikachu went into the fight with low HP, but also it's perfectly possible that the anime 'verse works with a slightly more realistic logic in terms of health, namely that Pikachu could have simply had a serious off day with an unusually competent Snivy.

    • @mystrknwital9146
      @mystrknwital9146 Před rokem +14

      but didn't pikachu attacked first? So even his normal atk damage should have one shot a lvl 5 pokemon

    • @johnmonk4793
      @johnmonk4793 Před rokem +20

      I would follow this logic with if it was an off day and Pikachu knows he is way stronger then it's very probable that Pikachu held back and threw the fight because we have seen pike be very compassionate as counter to ashs competitive nature so I am gonna say pika simply threw the fight because it didn't wana actually hurt a baby compared to it.
      Like I used to go to pokemon card game tournaments and even took first place a few times but when I play against my 9 year old I hold super back and don't use any actual strategy. So she can learn and build confidence in desicion making. Pokemon constantly display that level intellect and compassion.

    • @A-Random_Pakistani
      @A-Random_Pakistani Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@mystrknwital9146 focus sash

    • @Tangorr60
      @Tangorr60 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@A-Random_Pakistani how tf would a guy who just walked out of the lab with a starter have a focus sash? Also it isn't holding anything.

    • @KaranVir-go2xs
      @KaranVir-go2xs Před 21 dnem

      You're slightly correct about following real world logic just miss 2 points
      1 that snivy knew leaf storm there is no way for a normal snivy to knew that
      2 it has been explained multiple times that if the trainer got confused than so does the pokemon they were completely shocked why Pikachu is unable to use any electric attack and was not focused in battle

  • @InFPoison
    @InFPoison Před rokem +143

    After re-watching this one year later I think I’ve realized that Matt didn’t put in perspective the power boost that Pikachu gets throughout the series as well an example of this would be when Brock’s father uses the electric water generator to power a Pikachu that had to of accounted for some extra levels

    • @thestormkage
      @thestormkage Před rokem +6

      And if pikachu kept going until present day then he would of fought legendarys aswell

    • @phuahzixuan2077
      @phuahzixuan2077 Před rokem +6

      I mean those extra levels aren't able to be put numerically so i doubt they can be held accountable as a form of bonus levels which already was an overkill on snivy

    • @Magma-Idiot-2001
      @Magma-Idiot-2001 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@phuahzixuan2077How about we put those boosts as Rare Candy equivalents.

  • @franciscoguinledebarros4429
    @franciscoguinledebarros4429 Před 2 lety +939

    Pikachu: looses to snivy
    Ash: "what how?"
    Matpat, pulling the doc: "ya got me, by all accounts this doesn't make sense"

    • @GeeklingNo1
      @GeeklingNo1 Před 2 lety +33

      Pull the leaver James!
      WROng levveeerrrr

    • @pencilhead9783
      @pencilhead9783 Před 2 lety +14

      *falls into pit full of sandiles* WRONG LEVER!

    • @mentaya11
      @mentaya11 Před 2 lety +4

      Wow, that Snivys power exceeds it's evolutionary level!

    • @andrew-o8w
      @andrew-o8w Před 2 lety +2

      Black and white was a reboot.

    • @quisutdeus5525
      @quisutdeus5525 Před 2 lety +7

      Why do we even have that lever?

  • @AceTrainerLiam
    @AceTrainerLiam Před 2 lety +2315

    Ash is a hacker and somehow still manages to goof up battling a level 5 Snivy.

    • @gwynzynoodles2553
      @gwynzynoodles2553 Před 2 lety +45

      Answer: Trained is hacking

    • @AntiFreeMarket
      @AntiFreeMarket Před 2 lety +85

      That's the funniest part of the whole entire thing. Beating a legendary and then losing to a snivy a few episodes later.

    • @muhammadsadiq2570
      @muhammadsadiq2570 Před 2 lety +11

      Just to remind you he watch more episodes in a month than you have watched in a year pls don’t make wtf moments weekly

    • @Slug_ssbm
      @Slug_ssbm Před 2 lety +35

      It always bothers me when people say “Pikachu was beaten by a level 5 Snivy.” Snivy doesn’t learn Leaf Tornado until level 16 in Gen 5, meaning that Pikachu was actually beaten by a Level 16 Snivy. It’s still pathetic but it’s not AS bad as a level 61 losing to a level 5.

    • @JCJ262
      @JCJ262 Před 2 lety +7

      Maybe he accidently hacked Pikachu's stats too high and they had an integer overflow. When he fought Snivy his stat's were so high that they reset back to 0.

  • @zan1971
    @zan1971 Před 2 lety +78

    I got the answer thanks your calculations Mat. What you neglect to calculate is that Snivy is actually level 16 because it cannot learn Leaf Tornado at level 5. Meaning Ash's level 59 Pikachu was battling a level 16 Snivy. And here's the direct damage calculations:
    Lvl 59 0 Atk Pikachu Quick Attack vs. Lvl 16 0 HP / 252 Def Snivy: 41-49 (91.1 - 108.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
    This means that Snivy will not be guaranteed okoed by a neutral nature pikachu using quick attack. As for the return hit Snivy does very low damage back.
    Lvl 16 0- Atk Snivy Tackle vs. Lvl 59 0 HP / 0 Def Pikachu: 2-3 (1.5 - 2.3%)
    Lvl 16 252+ SpA Snivy Leaf Tornado vs. Lvl 59 0 HP / 0- SpD Pikachu: 7-10 (5.4 - 7.8%)
    Which shows that the maximum damage Snivy could do was 10% back. However Ash's pikachu had been injured and could have not fully recovered, or rather not recovered at all from the encounter with Zekrom. Thus it is entirely possible that Pikachu just has 10% of it's hp or 20% if both of Snivy's attacks were crits and so he was defeated. Now it makes perfect sense. Thanks for watching 600+ episodes of pokemon.

    • @jjs5072
      @jjs5072 Před rokem +10

      I was wondering if a Lvl 5 Snivy could actually know Leaf Tornado, but now the question is: if the guy is a new trainer and just got that Snivy: why is it Lvl 16?

    • @Tangorr60
      @Tangorr60 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Every starter starts at level 5 tho

    • @Squirrelbooya_yt
      @Squirrelbooya_yt Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@jjs5072 ayoo, my man got rare candies for days broda!

    • @arandombard1197
      @arandombard1197 Před 3 měsíci

      Only for players. We have no idea what other trainers start at.@@Tangorr60

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo Před 2 měsíci +2

      he specifically ignored using move names to calculate levels as move names are different due to japanese translations and there's a lot of inconsistency between the anime and game

  • @LUSProductionsOfficial
    @LUSProductionsOfficial Před 4 měsíci +19

    Now the last task for this topic is to calculate Pikachu's level by the end of Ash's journey in the Pokémon Journeys episode "Rainbow & the Pokémon Master"

  • @toantrica
    @toantrica Před 2 lety +1901

    "Dad, what are you doing?"
    "Watching Pokémon."
    "Can I watch with you?"
    "No, I'm researching."

  • @SuperWiiBros08
    @SuperWiiBros08 Před 2 lety +3954

    I think MatPat has gotten back into more logical videogame theories, and the incredible amount of effort he went through to make tells the huge dedication and passion he still has for his content.

    • @jensthemagicjester347
      @jensthemagicjester347 Před 2 lety +45

      Yea...
      We see that he showed us the lv of Picachu at 7:38 on the far right...
      A little Woopsies is alright anyways

    • @richardl1708
      @richardl1708 Před 2 lety +20

      the effort his team went through*

    • @blankflank3488
      @blankflank3488 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jensthemagicjester347 the right side, but yeah i noticed that too. oops

    • @sandychen1381
      @sandychen1381 Před 2 lety

      P

    • @neptunehallow345
      @neptunehallow345 Před 2 lety +12

      @@richardl1708 *him and his team

  • @rock85cool
    @rock85cool Před 2 lety +413

    This is actually really simple. Ash just didn’t heal Pikachu before the Snivy battle. It was probably just pure negligence.

    • @sid6041
      @sid6041 Před 2 lety +71

      Not really because the pikachu's health doesn't affect the fact that there is no way the Snivy could have survived Pikachu's quick attack

    • @FireFoxie1345
      @FireFoxie1345 Před 2 lety +14

      @@sid6041 there is a chance that a Pokémon can survive an attack if their relationship with their trainer is high enough

    • @powertogame5558
      @powertogame5558 Před 2 lety +61

      @@FireFoxie1345 That's a feature that only started in the Gen VI games, one region after the Snivy battle. Not to mention getting a starter's affection that high before your first battle with it is...difficult at best.

    • @vampuricknight1
      @vampuricknight1 Před 2 lety +36

      @@sid6041 Focus sash... that said Pikachu was apparently recently healed in the anime before that battle so it's unlikely he'd be even at 50% hp.
      By all accounts Pikachu should win that fight.

    • @hueytran9691
      @hueytran9691 Před 2 lety +2

      @@FireFoxie1345 this some 1 hp stuff?

  • @Raj_Tamboskar
    @Raj_Tamboskar Před 2 lety +38

    The snivy could be level 16 for all we know as it knows leaf tornado but still it's win chances are low.
    Also that would make the snivy an illegal starter.

    • @J_qm
      @J_qm Před 2 lety

      Ye illegal and doesnt it evolve at 16 or am i dumb

    • @UltraAryan10
      @UltraAryan10 Před rokem

      @@J_qm You can cancel the evolution

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug Před rokem +1

      It could be a mistake (got the wrong snivy)

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před 2 měsíci

      Ilegal? I don't know in anime high level starter are regarded as harder for new trainers to tame otherwise starter could even evolve if it's not control of its power just like torchic did

  • @sev-n
    @sev-n Před 2 lety +816

    The professor must have gave that kid an over leveled Snivy by accident.

    • @InvestmentIdea
      @InvestmentIdea Před 2 lety +1

      *czcams.com/video/k_JZs58CAQA/video.html*
      ..

    • @franeks7855
      @franeks7855 Před 2 lety +129

      taking "leaf tornado" into account it would be lvl 16

    • @amazinc754
      @amazinc754 Před 2 lety +5

      @@franeks7855 yepp that's it

    • @zitro22
      @zitro22 Před 2 lety +71

      Or maybe it was a secret lvl. 50 Zororak. It would be the right region.

    • @namanvevo
      @namanvevo Před 2 lety +3

      *GAME* is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 20k LIKES on my new song!! She definitely buy me a professional mic!! *Begging you GUYS!!* Please...I LOVE YOU! I'M NOT LYING! PLS!!

  • @pjkofficial9201
    @pjkofficial9201 Před 2 lety +443

    "Maybe he is better than everyone gives him credit for."
    "Nope, still an idiot."

  • @BigDaddySama
    @BigDaddySama Před rokem +17

    My head-canon was always that Ash was training Pikachu between battles. I don't think that Pikachu is lvl 100, but I think it's unlikely that his level is quite that low. The calculations do prove the minimum level it could be, though.

  • @mirabellablack6234
    @mirabellablack6234 Před 2 lety +18

    I love how mat just DOESNT take into account of healing before gymbattles, which He rarely did . pikachu could have also just been low health going into that fight

    • @higorlauer742
      @higorlauer742 Před 2 lety +4

      Snivy still take the hit and didn't faint

    • @unknownmystery5373
      @unknownmystery5373 Před 2 lety

      @@higorlauer742 focus sash

    • @RilGames.
      @RilGames. Před 2 lety +5

      @@unknownmystery5373 where did the new trainer get the focus sash?

    • @sargentgullible2794
      @sargentgullible2794 Před rokem

      @@RilGames. Gift from a family relative or friend.

    • @Tangorr60
      @Tangorr60 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@sargentgullible2794 okay but it isn't holding it. Like every other pokemon in the anime does, weak ahh argument to try and prove matpay was wrong even tho he spent hours researching this. Just take the fact that Pikachu would have won easily and carry on.

  • @krealyesitisbeta5642
    @krealyesitisbeta5642 Před 2 lety +982

    How did Ash lose to Snivy? Simple: *It was a cut-scene battle.*

  • @Canpo_
    @Canpo_ Před 2 lety +415

    Everyone: "Oh they reset the level"
    Matpat: "But what if..."

  • @thelostcause1562
    @thelostcause1562 Před rokem +16

    honestly the fact that Pikachu is sometimes even crushing other pokemons that are twice or more of his level explains very well why team rocket is so obsessed with him

  • @mikinaakandersen1189
    @mikinaakandersen1189 Před rokem +12

    I feel like you forget that a trainer and his connection to their Pokemon affects the stats of the Pokemon. The fact that Pikachu follows Ash and doesn't sit in a ball like a captive pet makes the two very unique and should not be overlooked. This is key and perhaps you should consider it more closey in your theory. You must look deeper at an emotional level and consider the darker aspects of Pokemon that the Ash Pikachu dynamic rebels against.

    • @larilaa
      @larilaa Před 3 měsíci +2

      How do you translate your suggestion to numbers?
      ✨️add ❤ Power of Love. ❤✨️

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo Před 2 měsíci +1

      He does account for this. Friendship is part of the damage equation and it maxes out in the first season

  • @manray1233
    @manray1233 Před 2 lety +1026

    Gotta love how Pikachu’s final level wasn’t hidden at all when the document was shown at 7:41

  • @Ruduwulf
    @Ruduwulf Před 2 lety +958

    Nurse Joy: "It seems that Chikorita is suffering from jealousy."
    Ash: "Jealousy? Is that some kind of Pokemon?!"

  • @danimo2162
    @danimo2162 Před rokem +7

    I love how he tries to point out that its impossible for Pikachu to lose to snivy but when Pikachu pulls through in battles that would be impossible to win mat pat is just "I'm just gonna ignore that"

  • @uknterror508
    @uknterror508 Před 2 lety +161

    You might have accurately surmised Pikachus level, what you didnt account for Snivy having is something that is very crucial. Its the sole reason why it beat Pikachu, something that is often overlooked but its THE most powerful trait anyone could hope to obtain.
    Plot armor

    • @exraielvalcore8769
      @exraielvalcore8769 Před 2 lety +8

      Snivy could have had some kind of rare buffs like Pokérus had naturally ate a lot of calc/iron & other minerals where it was caught & possibly maybe endure or some other skill that either buffed def & or atk/spec, Pikachu could have been injured or sick/cursed as well before the fight, factor in a critical hit from an unexpected counter hit after the shock of a lv5 pokemon tanking a quick attack & even I would grow eyeballs 10 timers their size just to then see my lv60 Pikachu get KO'd, there is still alot in the Pokémon world world we don't know about. Battle field could factor in too maybe it was a botched quick atk where Pikachu got messed up by terrain & maybe some active nerf or buff field effects were active, OFF GAME LOGIC NO AWAY PIKACHU LOST BUT FLUKES/RNG HAPPEN.
      Or it was just lazy writing. & Plot Armor... Right definitely that, don't know why I'd even give the benefit of the doubt here it's Pokémon.

    • @koalafromtomorrow5656
      @koalafromtomorrow5656 Před 2 lety +8

      Actually sinvy was at least level 15 cause of leaf tornado and it ran away from the Lab to train

    • @ryuhouchiha
      @ryuhouchiha Před 2 lety

      @@koalafromtomorrow5656 couldn't leaf tornado be an egg move? or bred?

  • @Mephitinae
    @Mephitinae Před 2 lety +448

    Plot armor: "Let me introduce myself"

    • @7ballstudios837
      @7ballstudios837 Před 2 lety +2

      THIS IS HIS BESTT SONG 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇

    • @7ballstudios837
      @7ballstudios837 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/W6IwmU2-VD4/video.html ..

    • @toist3226
      @toist3226 Před 2 lety

      Attack stat: 69 nice

    • @Raptor213
      @Raptor213 Před 2 lety +3

      Any D&D dungeon master will tell you, plot trumps rules.

    • @sirfrankss7860
      @sirfrankss7860 Před 2 lety +2

      Even plot armor has plot armor

  • @user-md1mc4sn1e
    @user-md1mc4sn1e Před rokem +10

    Did no one watch what happened before pikachu battled snivy??? Season 14 episode 1???? Pikachu was hit by lightning cause it to go weak. Pikachu was so weak it couldn’t even complete several of its attacks much less do a tackle due to being exhausted. It WASN’T a off screen battle or Region reset.

  • @Mahrac126
    @Mahrac126 Před rokem +10

    Personally I would have calculated any off-screen training by using the EXP Share formula, as it's basically a trainer's Pokemon sharing their experiences.

  • @Brian-lo2tn
    @Brian-lo2tn Před 2 lety +708

    ash's pikachu: literally beats a latios.
    also ash's pikachu: faints to a level 5 snivey
    edit: sorry guys i thought it was a latias ill edit this

    • @ollieraptor969
      @ollieraptor969 Před 2 lety +32

      It was a Latios.

    • @absolutehumane6623
      @absolutehumane6623 Před 2 lety +13

      Yeah it was Latios.

    • @arbor8445
      @arbor8445 Před 2 lety +11

      Actually, it was a latios

    • @boink666
      @boink666 Před 2 lety +26

      Pikachu must have did a Fake Faint do prevent itself from vaporizing that lil starter. I wanna believe Pikachu is just a good pika.

    • @mimi-ix3fb
      @mimi-ix3fb Před 2 lety +1

      Actually it's a tie

  • @AiginSongbird426
    @AiginSongbird426 Před 2 lety +466

    The “nope, never mind: still an idiot” cracked me up!!

  • @WesTheMes84
    @WesTheMes84 Před rokem +5

    Here is my very late take on how Pikachu lost against Snivy the first battle. What I think it is is how levels don't really matter in the anime. They exist sure, but they may not apply because obviously Pokemon learn moves that they wouldn't in game, like Pikachu learning Electro Web. The level could still be 5-61, but it probably wouldn't matter because in the end, Pikachu is a Pikachu. A weak statted Pokemon that has a base stat total of 320. Snivy's base stat total is 308. plus quick attack isnt stab, and stab DOES apply to the anime. I don't know for sure if low roles and high roles are in the anime, but if they are, quick attack would not do as much as killing Snivy in 3 different lives. And then to account for the possible high roles and crits for Snivy's tackle (I think its tackle) and stab Leaf Tornado, if I correctly put in the numbers, that would be just barely be enough to defeat Pikachu. Or it could just be a sympathy faint and Pikachu's acting has improved heavily

  • @harrycrossland2841
    @harrycrossland2841 Před rokem +6

    Leaves out the fact Pikachu tied with a ducking Latios at the end of the Sinnoh series

  • @spoodle_canoodle4770
    @spoodle_canoodle4770 Před 2 lety +648

    This number actually makes sense most leveling on these games come from rare candies or painstaking grinding and Pikachu has rookie numbers

    • @MbitaChizi
      @MbitaChizi Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html
      .

    • @lydellb
      @lydellb Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, if you think about it, even in the first season, how many battles did pikachu actually have between gyms? Compare that to how many times you get popped in the game going between gyms from trainers and wild pokemon. And you only get experience when you win lol. Ash was getting badges after losing.

    • @garrettkeithr
      @garrettkeithr Před 2 lety +1

      What if… Snivy was holding a focus sash and Ash didn’t heal up before that battle (leaving Pikachu with only a couple of HP)?

    • @thatonerandomweirdo
      @thatonerandomweirdo Před 2 lety

      What about him evolving? Don’t you have to be lvl. 50 or something to evolve?

    • @carlosfer2201
      @carlosfer2201 Před 2 lety

      nah the last game I played, Y, I never used the rare candies. I was saving them for the later levels where the amount of exp needed is crazy. You can easily get to levels around 60 by just beating the game with normal grinding.

  • @titansans2956
    @titansans2956 Před 2 lety +266

    You should continue this to see what level Pikachu is now up to the current show.

  • @asa5193
    @asa5193 Před 2 lety +29

    To answer your question about Snivy surviving Pikachu's hit and defeating him; there are 2 things that you didn't take into account:
    1. Snivy could have been wearing a Focus Sash, which is an item that enables the wearer to survive a hit (1HP) if its HP was 100% before taking the blow.
    2. Pikachu had some kind of injury (reduced HP) and Ash didn't go to the Pokemon center to heal him.

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug Před rokem

      Well it did get thwacked by Zekrom

    • @DarkEclipse23
      @DarkEclipse23 Před rokem

      If held items work like Poliwhirl holding the King's Rock, then we would've seen the focus sash wrapped around Snivy's head or something. :O The anime did start accounting for more in-game adaptation by that point such as the 4-move restriction, as well as removing elemental manipulation such as using the sprinklers on Onix and THEN using thundershock etc.

  • @DontFollowZim
    @DontFollowZim Před 2 lety +37

    Technically I would say that the level 60ish is his minimum level because there's almost definitely some XP farming off screen.

    • @joshuarobinson8529
      @joshuarobinson8529 Před rokem +1

      This is all about the *onscreen* battles, but yeah, that's a minimum.
      What level would he have in three more regions? (Start of Journeys)

    • @UltraAryan10
      @UltraAryan10 Před rokem +2

      @@joshuarobinson8529 Probably level 80-90 since he gained 30 in just Kanto then growed slowly later on. Even in regions with a lot of activity he only got like 10 levels.

    • @Tangorr60
      @Tangorr60 Před rokem +1

      @@UltraAryan10 I would say 70-80.

  • @oblivionox2
    @oblivionox2 Před 2 lety +721

    Theory: it never says that pikachu is at full health when they start fighting, so maybe Ash simply forgot to have him healed up and he was sitting at "low" hp...

    • @marcusmelfi4398
      @marcusmelfi4398 Před 2 lety +13

      Good theory

    • @ThatOneCreature
      @ThatOneCreature Před 2 lety +70

      Sometimes the simplest answer is the truth

    • @MapleRose9
      @MapleRose9 Před 2 lety +91

      That's a good point. Ash doesn't seem to ever carry any healing items with him. And maybe the Snivy was holding a focus sash or something

    • @akilreid2235
      @akilreid2235 Před 2 lety +5

      he'd still be faster tho

    • @darrenmacqueen9884
      @darrenmacqueen9884 Před 2 lety +17

      True, Ash is not smart.

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld Před 2 lety +3640

    Your mistake was to assume that Pikachu went into the battle at full HP though.

    • @testerwulf3357
      @testerwulf3357 Před 2 lety +266

      It got treatment, it likely was.

    • @dabmonstr7403
      @dabmonstr7403 Před 2 lety +388

      Assuming it had 1 hp
      How does a snivy the weakest starter of the bunch (pre contrary) take a quick attack from a pikachu of more than kevel 15?

    • @EnigmaLuigi
      @EnigmaLuigi Před 2 lety +130

      @@dabmonstr7403 focus sash

    • @Iemonic
      @Iemonic Před 2 lety +80

      @@dabmonstr7403 im assuming it has that ability (final stand i think its called) where it can survive an attack with 1 hp left. maybe thats how it survived?? it doesnt seem to be holding anything so idk

    • @gt-ur8hi
      @gt-ur8hi Před 2 lety +3

      True true

  • @TheBrothergreen
    @TheBrothergreen Před 2 lety +79

    Pikachu was at least level 30 when ash got him. You can tell, on account of him refusing to obey orders.

    • @trappedcosmos
      @trappedcosmos Před rokem +5

      Actually Pikachu is ash's starter which never disobey based on levels so no

    • @TheBrothergreen
      @TheBrothergreen Před rokem +39

      @@trappedcosmos Actually, Pikachu wasn't intended as a starter Pokemon. Ash missed his appointment with professor oak and oak gave all his starters away. Pikachu is a gifted pokemon that oak had randomly caught.
      Which means that he'd also get boosted xp.

    • @joshl5658
      @joshl5658 Před rokem +13

      Wouldn't pichu be the starter version... being the baby pokemon. Pikachu is technically evolved once... like a Wartortle, Ivysaur, or charmeleon.

    • @ifeelsappy5343
      @ifeelsappy5343 Před rokem +1

      This actually makes sense..

    • @trappedcosmos
      @trappedcosmos Před rokem +1

      @@ifeelsappy5343 no it doesn't

  • @professionallycurious7372

    I was really upset when Pikachu lost that battle, I was like HOOOOOOOWWWWW?!
    I'm glad you went through the trouble to show us what we figured before but wanted a definitive answer to. Pokemon is broken, but I guess was just really near faints door dwl. Ash need to always check the PC...

  • @zachsmthinorother6574
    @zachsmthinorother6574 Před 2 lety +425

    Matpat: "I am determined to NOT make this a three parter."
    Me: "Please do. I want this to be a three parter."

    • @MerkeligStrormride
      @MerkeligStrormride Před 2 lety +44

      Yes. I want know what level Pikachu is by the end of Alola.

    • @MbitaChizi
      @MbitaChizi Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html
      ..

    • @namanvevo
      @namanvevo Před 2 lety +2

      *GAME* is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 20k LIKES on my new song!! She definitely buy me a professional mic!! *Begging you GUYS!!* Please...I LOVE YOU! I'M NOT LYING! PLS!!

    • @fishnewt1331
      @fishnewt1331 Před 2 lety

      Yes

    • @Tc-em2pv
      @Tc-em2pv Před 2 lety

      @@namanvevo Your dream though you have like 8 million 9 year olds who like all your videos

  • @MythicOneOne
    @MythicOneOne Před 2 lety +700

    "You're WRONG About Ash's Pikachu!"
    I don't even have any strong opinions on his Pikachu!

    • @pastaanimation5947
      @pastaanimation5947 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol

    • @mirjinou7999
      @mirjinou7999 Před 2 lety +3

      I'm ˢᵘᵇˢᶜʳᶦᵇᶦⁿᵍ ᵗᵒ ᵉᵛᵉʳʸᵒⁿᵉ ʷʰᵒ ˢᵘᵇˢᶜʳᶦᵇᵉˢ ᵗᵒ ᵐᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ˡᶦᵏᵉˢ ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵉⁿᵗ''

    • @maskiie6993
      @maskiie6993 Před 2 lety

      lmao

    • @fewsnow
      @fewsnow Před 2 lety

      Lol

    • @PorteiroDoPlat
      @PorteiroDoPlat Před 2 lety +4

      *Surprised Pikachu face*

  • @JeremyWS
    @JeremyWS Před 2 lety +7

    Theory: Pikachu sometimes throws matches. Also Ash is a genius, but pretends to be stupid.

  • @unknown.mp4
    @unknown.mp4 Před 2 lety +2

    I respect the effort that went into this video, awesome job mate!

  • @xsdxsurplus8859
    @xsdxsurplus8859 Před 2 lety +240

    I love how at 7:39 he accidently spoils the entire episode on accident but still love ya matpatt🤣

  • @deuterium-0156
    @deuterium-0156 Před 2 lety +784

    Plot twist: The Snivy had a focus sash, used endeavor, then used a quick attack.

    • @malachibennett687
      @malachibennett687 Před 2 lety +45

      this is genuinely a really good theory

    • @deuterium-0156
      @deuterium-0156 Před 2 lety +23

      @@malachibennett687 Does Snivy even learn endeavor?

    • @infinitedaves
      @infinitedaves Před 2 lety +16

      lol I just commented something similar then saw this. Focus Sash is introduced in Gen IV as well so it kinda fits

    • @chickenboi6919
      @chickenboi6919 Před 2 lety +9

      It kills him with a leaf storm though

    • @malachibennett687
      @malachibennett687 Před 2 lety +3

      @@deuterium-0156 I don't think so but isn't it a tm? I might be wrong

  • @lunamoongacha4581
    @lunamoongacha4581 Před 2 měsíci +1

    matpat and head editor dan as team rocket is smth i never thought i would see

  • @dawn7081
    @dawn7081 Před rokem +1

    It might be something to do with how each region's levels work differently for all of the newer species that appear, meaning that adaptation could just be shown through the regions

  • @inpho6999
    @inpho6999 Před 2 lety +2201

    That guy who played James deserves a raise.

    • @GriffinZambia
      @GriffinZambia Před 2 lety +12

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html

    • @lewisxd3415
      @lewisxd3415 Před 2 lety +82

      @Speak Good you know you can put your video in CZcams ads right

    • @smohanas174
      @smohanas174 Před 2 lety +45

      He is the lead editor

    • @lewisxd3415
      @lewisxd3415 Před 2 lety +26

      @@GriffinZambia u know you can buy CZcams ads

    • @keeyandameen1688
      @keeyandameen1688 Před 2 lety +15

      @@lewisxd3415 theyre cheap and probably 6 year olds mass report them or something i guess

  • @rayhehe5035
    @rayhehe5035 Před 2 lety +219

    POV: you saw the spreadsheet at 7:40 and pikachu’s final level was spoiled for you 😔😔

    • @namanvevo
      @namanvevo Před 2 lety +1

      *GAME* is my inspiration!! My mom said that if I got 20k LIKES on my new song!! She definitely buy me a professional mic!! *Begging you GUYS!!* Please...I LOVE YOU! I'M NOT LYING! PLS!

    • @robindahood9187
      @robindahood9187 Před 2 lety +4

      I didn't even see it while watching it or at least not paid attention to it 💀

    • @dhclassicwasstolen
      @dhclassicwasstolen Před 2 lety

      @@HAYTHAMABOUELFAID did you seriously steal a doal alt account pp?

    • @dhclassicwasstolen
      @dhclassicwasstolen Před 2 lety +1

      @@namanvevo judging by you’re comment history, yes you are lying.

    • @3twibles4sweetrevenge
      @3twibles4sweetrevenge Před 2 lety

      @@HAYTHAMABOUELFAID stfu just because he read a sheet he's a no lifer

  • @Jason_the_non-refundable123.
    @Jason_the_non-refundable123. Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love your vids man it sucks your leaving I’m rewatching all you vids as a tribute

  • @grooteras1947
    @grooteras1947 Před 5 měsíci +1

    although the final lvl was revealed at 7:39 i stayed till the end, since you put so much work into this :D

  • @CraftyMaelyss
    @CraftyMaelyss Před 2 lety +440

    "Nope, still an idiot."
    *Basically how to sum up the series*

    • @randommonke4872
      @randommonke4872 Před 2 lety +3

      @CZcams Creators ✓ Fake verify

    • @randommonke4872
      @randommonke4872 Před 2 lety +1

      @CZcams Creators ✓ stop putting your CZcams vids in he reply

  • @gamertilsonrise
    @gamertilsonrise Před 2 lety +267

    Another quote that shows Ash as a dunce:
    Giant Alakazam- "ALAKAZAM!"
    Ash- "Is that a Kadabra?!"
    Brock- "No! It's an Alakazam!"

    • @seankock7649
      @seankock7649 Před 2 lety +5

      Well can you tell the differences between animals in the real world?
      Remember that these are animals to them

    • @politoed06
      @politoed06 Před 2 lety +20

      Yes but it would be easier to say what animal it is if it literally shouted out its name

    • @DelphinSquared
      @DelphinSquared Před 2 lety +1

      For all forms of doubt, Ash is actually smarter in Kalos.

    • @-FutureTaken-
      @-FutureTaken- Před 2 lety

      @CZcams Creators ✓ no u

    • @Animesh_Raj
      @Animesh_Raj Před 2 lety

      Meanwhile Brock and his "Jelly Filled Donut"

  • @Dnightshade100
    @Dnightshade100 Před 2 lety +2

    The only conclusion I can draw on how a snivey beat pikachu is that ash didn’t rest pikachu up before battle and it’s hp was low from the start.
    That and that snivey got lucky.

    • @addsy3653
      @addsy3653 Před 2 lety +1

      Snivy would still have needed to be focus sashed lol

  • @finalsymphony
    @finalsymphony Před 2 lety +3

    Although writers make Pikachu like this in the anime, he still remains as one of my favs

  • @Kankan_Mahadi
    @Kankan_Mahadi Před 2 lety +410

    What scares me is how Matt manages to look so good wearing Jessie's hair.

  • @lucideirune1635
    @lucideirune1635 Před 2 lety +3

    Pikachu has the same stats as the one in LG and it probably has a light ball. Even at lower levels, because the attack becomes just as powerful as that of a legendary, that is why Pikachu wins many battles.
    As for Snivy, Trip’s Snivy clearly had a Focus Sash, Endeaver, and Quick Attack. The FEAR tactic is very common for many users to have on lower level Pokémon.

    • @Tangorr60
      @Tangorr60 Před 9 měsíci

      How tf would a starter have endeavor. And how would it have a focus sash but not hold it.

  • @JamesHamilton-gr7dd
    @JamesHamilton-gr7dd Před rokem +1

    I’m just realizing that you can see the final level when he’s showing us the dock around 7:50

  • @eddyrivera7287
    @eddyrivera7287 Před 7 měsíci +4

    You’re biggest mistake was not taking the Zenkai boost Pikachu gets from every battle he lost.

  • @RhiannonSmudge
    @RhiannonSmudge Před 2 lety +115

    Theory: Pikachu was just going mega soft on Snivy and pretended to faint because he was tired of beating up newbie trainers
    or the writers just threw consistency out the window

    • @pormpfspimperton6804
      @pormpfspimperton6804 Před 2 lety +6

      Pikachu was sick that day

    • @lunasif
      @lunasif Před 2 lety +2

      @@pormpfspimperton6804 ...If Pikachu had pokerus it makes even less sense! ...Unless it had pokerus at an early age which is why its stats are stronger than its level... Maybe due to that unusual strength and lack of general battling despite having some experience it's still punching way above what it's actually able to tackle, only coming through because of the heightened stats and not skill, which is important in the anime...

    • @attackcrash0787
      @attackcrash0787 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lunasif He never said anything about Pokerus.

    • @lunasif
      @lunasif Před 2 lety

      @@attackcrash0787 Yeah but as far as I know that is the only sickness in the games for pokemon. It's just where my mind went and had some fun with it.

  • @CrystalBrightz
    @CrystalBrightz Před 2 lety +590

    "Snivy shook it off so its trainer wouldn't worry." * floaty hearts *

    • @WildRabiea
      @WildRabiea Před 2 lety +4

      This makes sense!

    • @choihayting5039
      @choihayting5039 Před 2 lety +1

      @@WildRabiea and yet people are like aiiii that bad because it won

    • @nigoulenoblehiboux9812
      @nigoulenoblehiboux9812 Před 2 lety +17

      @@choihayting5039 to be fair this mechanic wasn't a thing at the time this episode was made

    • @choihayting5039
      @choihayting5039 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nigoulenoblehiboux9812 i know, but still.

    • @themacewens
      @themacewens Před 2 lety +21

      @@nigoulenoblehiboux9812 And considering that the guy literally just got the Snivy, its affection would be too low for that to even happen.

  • @alexisraels1437
    @alexisraels1437 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I know this is two years after the episode came out, but I think there was one thing that might have been overlooked. Pikachu didn't listen to Ash when he was first given to him, so is it possible that Pikachu could have actually had another trainer before Ash, as corroborated by knowing Thunder?

  • @richphoenixpa
    @richphoenixpa Před rokem +1

    something that might be possible is that the Snivy had a Focus Sash... a held item that would leave Snivy with one HP if it is hit with a an attack that would cause them to faint. something else is that maybe pikachu wasn't restored from it's prior battles and had less then 32 hp. That said in speculation, a trainer might think "oh level 5? this should be fine for Pikachu even though he is pretty beat up." but focus sash gives Snivy the opening and ash's lack of knowledge and arrogance got Pikachu fainted.

  • @AztecJester93
    @AztecJester93 Před 2 lety +1103

    "The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the script writer wants to win!"
    ~ Stan Lee

    • @marioauditore2859
      @marioauditore2859 Před 2 lety +11

      But if the writer is George R. R. Martin, them this quote is wrong 😂

    • @sk4364
      @sk4364 Před 2 lety +3

      Sooo... Plot armour

    • @reio1951
      @reio1951 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sk4364 I'm not sure it's really plot armour since Ash lost even tho it would've been inconsequential for him to win.

    • @lukethemankey3522
      @lukethemankey3522 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, but the reader/watcher base should be able to critique how certain battles play out if they fail to line up with said script writer's pre-established rules of the world.

    • @magnum9588
      @magnum9588 Před 2 lety +2

      nuff said

  • @Vynsan1ty
    @Vynsan1ty Před 2 lety +413

    At this point game devs can put random cool stuff into their games, sit back, relax, and let Game Theory write the lore for them.

    • @mrpedrobraga
      @mrpedrobraga Před 2 lety +4

      Good Idea

    • @tronche2cake
      @tronche2cake Před 2 lety +14

      that's what Scott Cawthon is doing, except Idk if it can be considered cool.

    • @GriffinZambia
      @GriffinZambia Před 2 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html

    • @mirjinou7999
      @mirjinou7999 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm ˢᵘᵇˢᶜʳᶦᵇᶦⁿᵍ ᵗᵒ ᵉᵛᵉʳʸᵒⁿᵉ ʷʰᵒ ˢᵘᵇˢᶜʳᶦᵇᵉˢ ᵗᵒ ᵐᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ˡᶦᵏᵉˢ ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵉⁿᵗ''

    • @magdalenomartinezjr8805
      @magdalenomartinezjr8805 Před 2 lety +1

      It's almost like Matpat it's their indirect writer

  • @hcsjiren3871
    @hcsjiren3871 Před 8 měsíci +1

    ash's pikachu has gained more than enough exp to be lvl 100 when even 1 region is enough to get you to at least 60 and he's been through multiple however apart from johto he's been reset to lvl 1 every new region he's been to, it's been stated the creator does this to give the viewers the illusion that ash's is starting from scratch in every region.

    • @lucifer61479
      @lucifer61479 Před 5 měsíci

      Bro this man legit gave all the battles he is 61 he literally calculated each and every battle

  • @gooseosessooe
    @gooseosessooe Před 9 měsíci

    Assuming it had sturdy and somehow also gained rocky helmet then it might stand a chance although idk how rocky helmet calculates dmg

  • @caitlinb1657
    @caitlinb1657 Před 2 lety +588

    Theory: Pikachu didn't want to absolutely smite him, so he took the dive

    • @jacobg6628
      @jacobg6628 Před 2 lety +47

      The mafia had the battle rigged from the start. Pikachu had to take a dive or Ash's kneecaps were gonna get smashed in.

    • @Halosty45
      @Halosty45 Před 2 lety +26

      @@jacobg6628 That assumes that Pikachu isn't working *with* the mafia. I don't see Ash taking money from everyone he beats. That money has to come from somewhere.

    • @ceegeetee
      @ceegeetee Před 2 lety

      Let’s see how many subs I can get from this comment
      Current Subs 9886

    • @CharlesGouraudgaming
      @CharlesGouraudgaming Před 2 lety +9

      Pikachu remembers Casey from the start of Johto, how miffed she got when Ash used Charizard against her chikorita

    • @Vixen-debo
      @Vixen-debo Před 2 lety

      @@ceegeetee damm

  • @heszedjim9699
    @heszedjim9699 Před 2 lety +1431

    How about a theory on why ash sounds like he's smoked for the past 40 years

  • @mystuff789
    @mystuff789 Před 2 lety +5

    That was an interesting video! I'm sorry you had to grind your way through all those episodes. I can barely get past the collective stupidity of Ash and friends in the advanced battle series. Your pain is real.
    With the Snivy battle, I'm still calling shenanigans! Pikachu couldn't use his electric attacks and had only iron tail and quick attack. Snivy had leaf tornado, a move that can not be an egg move (unlike leaf storm) and can only be learned at level 16. And I know this because snivy happens to be my favorite pokemon, so I've bred a few to gain egg moves and almost always use ones in my black and white playthroughs.
    I'm not a math person, though, so I'm not sure if a weakened, low 60's or 59 level pikachu with only two none STAB moves could still match up against a strong level 16 snivy. I mean, it sounds like he definitely could with his attack stats, though pikachu are not (in my experience, anyways) very defensive. They're kinda brittle, actually. Snivy can take more hits (than a pikachu, at least) because they're more on the defensive scale (adding leech seed, coil and an eviolite can greatly help with the defense, too. I can proudly say that my IV trained snivy, with those moves and item, in an online battle, took a spacial rend from a palkia, defeated it, then took a jugdement from an arceus and defeated it, too.) ....Not sure if that adds anything. I'm just a huge nerd. XD

    • @Concorde.
      @Concorde. Před rokem +3

      Another thing to consider is Zekrom sapping all of pikachu's electricity, we dont know what effects that could have regardless of level so all base stats could be degraded to a lower temporary stat. So therefore Snivy could take a Quick Attack and Iron tail and have low df and hp which is why he loses to snivy.

  • @bradytheperson7050
    @bradytheperson7050 Před 2 lety +1

    different types of foes would also factor in. like he wouldnt take the same amount of damage from all types of pokemon. judging his level by comparing his ability to battle oponants just by their level is totally ignoring the fact that two different foes AT THE SAME LEVEL would be a DIFFERENT DIFFICULTY because of the different types! so a level 30 water pokemon would be a different difficulty than a level 30 fire or electric type depending on what advantage/disadvantage they have against pikachus type

  • @Silenrea
    @Silenrea Před 2 lety +509

    "Drumroll!"
    Me: "It's 61. You didn't exactly omit it from the spreadsheet you threw on screen with the Level being 61.2. Thus I knew the final level halfway into your video..."

    • @huntermanlove4539
      @huntermanlove4539 Před 2 lety +16

      I saw this too!!!

    • @arunimachatterjee7796
      @arunimachatterjee7796 Před 2 lety +19

      Was looking for this comment lol!!

    • @stuartpratt3662
      @stuartpratt3662 Před 2 lety +4

      well if I was looking for the unintentional reveal in the shown document but I think he saw it and thought that it would be a Easter egg that we could look for if we were perceptional enough (btw its 2 am for me rn)

    • @FrostyLava
      @FrostyLava Před 2 lety +2

      Don't spoil! Edit the comment so unless someone clicks read more they cannot see the comment!

    • @urgay1992
      @urgay1992 Před 2 lety +6

      @@stuartpratt3662 it is right next to matpat on the spreadsheet, I wasn't even looking for it and I saw it. Super obvious location.

  • @o76923
    @o76923 Před 2 lety +1806

    Based on how Ash's other Pokémon evolve, there must be substantial off screen grinding going on. That kinda throws a wrench in this whole thing.

    • @Gamerboi99
      @Gamerboi99 Před 2 lety +219

      The original question and answer still stand. At this point in the anime, if pikachu is still the same pikachu, and the adventure up to this point has not been reset, there is no possible way it should have lost that fight. Giving it more levels from off screen grinding would only make that statement more true. To add on to that, if the levels are consistent with the games levels, pika would be level 100, and likely able to solo carry Ash through basically every fight. Assuming it is level 100 (+), with volt tackle, iron tail, thunder shock, and quick attack.... it can probably spam quick attack through most fights and not be touched until several badges deep into each area. So, the rule of anime applies. Pika is being nerfed for the sake of the story.

    • @briankrenning7811
      @briankrenning7811 Před 2 lety +46

      @@Gamerboi99 a factor that never gets talked about. In the show pikachu does not respect ash in the start. Badges are required for pokémon to respect and obey

    • @Sentient.A.I.
      @Sentient.A.I. Před 2 lety +61

      Pikachu just feels bad for new trainers and throws the fight with Snyvee

    • @AndehX
      @AndehX Před 2 lety +10

      Yeah this is the most obvious reason why Ash's Pikachu is most likely at level 100 by the end of the Orange islands (at least)

    • @immyg_563
      @immyg_563 Před 2 lety +19

      he said in the first episode he would only cover onscreen battles.

  • @Johnc812
    @Johnc812 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe anime levels go way higher and every new region just have higher level pokemon. Pikachu learns thunderbolt at lvl 26 or somewhere around there and thunder at lol 40 ish in game so that would have made him a higher level in the original episodes. Also don't forget when ash powered Pikachu up before the second battle with Brock with that watermill, that stuff like that has to count I doubt the anime is all exp and levels or trainers wouldn't train their pokemon specific ways. Like episodes of fighting pokemon practicing with their trainers ect.. would be irrelevant to air or show that they gotten stronger that way, like Bruno episodes ect.. Nice theory tho

  • @Magnetismosis
    @Magnetismosis Před rokem +1

    12:30 but when a player make a runtrough they catch more Pokémon and gain more exp not like ash who catches ca.5 Pokémon every region
    And always need a Pokédex to make out what a Pokémon is called though they say their names try to play the games where they only squeak

  • @xander5190
    @xander5190 Před 2 lety +554

    I’m honestly impressed that matpat would watch and analyze the entire anime twice just for a few dumb CZcams videos

    • @analid
      @analid Před 2 lety +2

      onii chan

    • @HenningGu
      @HenningGu Před 2 lety +7

      I mean, it is his job. Along with the team.

    • @davidortega6555
      @davidortega6555 Před 2 lety

      It matpat what else would you expect

    • @MbitaChizi
      @MbitaChizi Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/video.html

    • @danerule7326
      @danerule7326 Před 2 lety

      Thats his income, I wouldn't call them dumb

  • @generaldurandal3568
    @generaldurandal3568 Před 2 lety +319

    Ash: *sees green pokemon*
    Also Ash: "Is it a water type?"

  • @DPJDoesThings
    @DPJDoesThings Před rokem

    you mentioned like three movies though not to mention you only calculated up to unova but we are in galar so thats another 3 regions and movies including hoopa and the clash of ages where he defeats dialga, unbound hoopa, palkia and im pretty sure giratina which if we do game level all of them are seventy (except hoopa since its an event) and they give an unknown amount in the thousands meaning pikachu should be around level 70 or mid 80 since he did this three times and also mega gengar before megas were a thing in the anime so if i wagered a guess it would be 87. (Of course I'm probably wrong and matpat if you see this don't worry I love your content so don't stop

  • @andrablack8730
    @andrablack8730 Před 2 lety +2

    Just watching that clip at the start, I'm positive that Snivy used Leaf Tornado, which it learns at level 15 or 16. I should know; I picked it almost a decade ago. It could've been Leaf Storm, but that's being extremely generous, lol. My point is that there's no way that Snivy was just level 5.
    Edit: Just checked the gen 5 movepool. Snivy doesn't learn Leaf Tornado via TM, only level up. That Snivy was beefed up prior to that battle at the very least.

  • @Zyraphim
    @Zyraphim Před 2 lety +195

    Ash's Pikachu: *exists*
    MatPat: *_"Peace was never an option"_*

  • @jackbrownio3
    @jackbrownio3 Před 2 lety +203

    There are theories that Trip’s snivy was actually massively over levelled before being given to him I.e. Juniper caught a really high level snivy

    • @snowrios8084
      @snowrios8084 Před 2 lety +2

      @u dope ?

    • @nooneimportantlol6553
      @nooneimportantlol6553 Před 2 lety +24

      Snivy does learn leaf tornado at lv 16

    • @sonic12436
      @sonic12436 Před 2 lety +21

      I literally just left a long comment about just this very subject. Trip gets his first pokemon snivy and already knows leaf tornado? WTF was professor juniper feeding it. But even still Pikachu still should have won.

    • @sethoricalco1709
      @sethoricalco1709 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nooneimportantlol6553 He also evolves at that level but he was still a Snivy so at most he could be lvl 15.

    • @zzzinger
      @zzzinger Před 2 lety

      @matpat do a theory on this

  • @marsthegaymartinelli
    @marsthegaymartinelli Před rokem +2

    Well there's also that Pikachu would gain xp from just being in the (all of ashes battles) party if they were awake just a thought

  • @SnowLily123
    @SnowLily123 Před rokem +1

    6:51 In my personal opinion, Pokemon Emerald shouldn’t exist. The two game pairs that come with a theme of red and blue are what make Pokemon unique to me.

  • @mouseman2989
    @mouseman2989 Před 2 lety +647

    Theory: ash breeds a new pikachu each region so he can feel like he has a new starter
    or the writers nerfed pikachu for plot convenience

    • @x1cxq703
      @x1cxq703 Před 2 lety +39

      Thats why he gets skinnier...

    • @werter490
      @werter490 Před 2 lety +28

      Then why would pikachu know team rocket for each region and have a close connection to ash and know his past and know the same moves and remember every person ash has been friends with and like the same food?

    • @Vivi-hq2ce
      @Vivi-hq2ce Před 2 lety +6

      Why is there a link......

    • @aidanhammans9337
      @aidanhammans9337 Před 2 lety +4

      WHAT?!

    • @khanbw
      @khanbw Před 2 lety +5

      That's the dark timeline

  • @Leo-kf6zy
    @Leo-kf6zy Před 2 lety +168

    Plot twist: Trip's and Snivy's friendship level went up by so much when they first met

  • @zenbmonk1016
    @zenbmonk1016 Před rokem +2

    Red: *Ends up with a level 88 Pikachu at the end of his journey*
    Ash: *Has a level 61 Pikachu*
    Dawn: "Hey, you destroyed my bike Ash!"
    Misty: "I know you're pain Dawn. It's only going to worsen, because he isn't going to repay you for it."

  • @johnmann1445
    @johnmann1445 Před 2 lety

    i started watching pokemon black and white ad found out this about pikachu vs snivy battle: pikachu ost his ability to use electric type moves, meaning ash kept wasting turns. and on snivy's turn, snivy just used a basic move, but since pikachu couldn't really attack, pikachu fainted.
    the above was concluded by me and my turtle.

  • @hendertopain1020
    @hendertopain1020 Před 2 lety +472

    Theory: Snivy was a higher level would be 17 when it learns leaf tornado.

    • @zera3947
      @zera3947 Před 2 lety +72

      Still can't imagine a supposed level 61 lose to a level 17 Snivy. Leaf tornado isn't even super effective and Pikachu's HP should've been super high

    • @benjboiplays5403
      @benjboiplays5403 Před 2 lety +37

      @@zera3947 yeah even matpat said that even without the team rocket exp Pikachu would still only be lvl 59 so even little things like that wouldn’t matter Pikachu would still obliterate that Snivy no matter if it was lvl 5 or lvl 17

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs Před 2 lety +55

      Snivy held on so it’s trainer wouldn’t worry!

    • @benjboiplays5403
      @benjboiplays5403 Před 2 lety +5

      @@maxspecs lol

    • @Potramon
      @Potramon Před 2 lety +32

      @@benjboiplays5403 it could be possible that when pikachu was overcharged by zekrom, his stat could got lowered, quite possibly temporarely reset, regaining those stat as time went on, so pikachu could have been level 61, but because he was overcharged, it had the stat of a pikachu around lvl 10-20

  • @8-ball350
    @8-ball350 Před 2 lety +202

    I just realized Mat pat just speed ran everyone’s childhoods by watching every Pokémon series.

    • @bobjobtinkledob2285
      @bobjobtinkledob2285 Před 2 lety +1

      True

    • @KayOScode
      @KayOScode Před 2 lety +2

      Im thinking it wasnt a solo mission. Probably hired a couple people help

    • @AngeloGene
      @AngeloGene Před 2 lety +1

      He should do One Piece next

    • @Leo-db4sl
      @Leo-db4sl Před 2 lety

      He still has to go through 2 more regions after this

    • @8-ball350
      @8-ball350 Před 2 lety +3

      @Josh Harding ok 7 outa 10 people’s childhoods.

  • @ericwatson1874
    @ericwatson1874 Před 2 měsíci

    Hey, listen to this, MATPAT: A kid from Pallet Town with a brand new world to see
    Don't know what's ahead, but it won't get the best of me
    There's so much to learn and battles to be won
    I've advanced so far and still there's always more to come
    Take a step and I'm on my way...
    Gonna start all over again
    I wanna be a hero! (Hero!)
    Pokémon: Advanced!
    (I'm on my way!)
    I wanna be a hero! (Hero!)
    Give me just one chance...
    And the future will decide...
    If there's a hero buried deep inside...
    I wanna be a hero!
    Pokémon!
    Ending version
    Take a step and I'm on my way...
    Gonna start all over again
    I wanna be a hero! (Hero!)
    Pokémon: Advanced!
    (I'm on my way!)
    I wanna be a hero! (Hero!)
    Give me just one chance...
    And the future will decide...
    If there's a hero buried deep inside...
    I wanna be a hero!
    Pokémon!

  • @pandalove2088
    @pandalove2088 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You watched all the seasons now that is dedication

  • @reptilerach
    @reptilerach Před 2 lety +106

    7:40 when you realize the final reveal of Pikachu’s level happened halfway through the video

    • @countseelore
      @countseelore Před 2 lety +7

      I noticed immediately tbf

    • @Redfiery_Anders
      @Redfiery_Anders Před 2 lety +7

      So I wasn't the only one who noticed. Like 1 minute before he was so eager about the "big surprise" but spoils it anyways. Lmfao.

    • @01superchunk66
      @01superchunk66 Před 2 lety +2

      nd is only up to the start of gen 5

    • @stanleyho8009
      @stanleyho8009 Před 2 lety +2

      Did not see

    • @depressed-chan
      @depressed-chan Před 2 lety

      I saw it at that moment and laughed😂😂