Game Theory: Solving Raticate's "DEATH" (Pokemon Red and Blue)

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    It's one of the oldest and most infamous creepypastas out there -- that you killed your Rival's Raticate in Pokemon Red and Blue. But are you truly an eleven-year-old with blood on your hands? Unlike most other creepypasta, this Pokemon theory actually HAS evidence that gives us a definitive answer one way or the other, evidence that has gone largely unnoticed for the better part of the last decade. So today's Pokemon Theory is putting this question to rest...pun intended. Should Red be renamed as "Murderer Red?" Let's find out!
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  • @bumblemcgrumbles7720
    @bumblemcgrumbles7720 Před 5 lety +4901

    >talks about how scary raticate would be
    >doesn't mention that beedrill is a three foot tall hornet with spears for arms

    • @gudonabdi3459
      @gudonabdi3459 Před 5 lety +139

      In the anime the bee drills would attack unprovoked (sometimes) tho

    • @mrNobody0669
      @mrNobody0669 Před 5 lety +111

      Also doesn’t talk about the Pokémon that’s 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit and the sun is only 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit

    • @dovahkiin0357
      @dovahkiin0357 Před 5 lety +22

      What about a dragon

    • @SCP-fi1dn
      @SCP-fi1dn Před 5 lety +66

      What about drifloon, the Pokemon that kidnaps children

    • @possiblyrandom6703
      @possiblyrandom6703 Před 5 lety +54

      >talks about how scary beedrill is
      >Doesn't mention the one that makes blacks holes

  • @hido...
    @hido... Před 7 lety +9786

    I didn't kill Raticate. He killed himself because he was confused.

  • @adesperateyoutuber2117
    @adesperateyoutuber2117 Před 3 lety +1380

    An alternative theory is that Gary fought a different Pokémon trainer who killed Ratticate, thus explaining its absence and removing the blood from your hands.

    • @avak2101
      @avak2101 Před 2 lety +161

      yeah how does EVERYONE skip the fact that Team Rocket could've done that?

    • @Cage-CatYT
      @Cage-CatYT Před 2 lety +36

      I prefer to think of it like that so I feel less bad

    • @justafan9206
      @justafan9206 Před 2 lety +9

      Huh.

    • @wachinga
      @wachinga Před 2 lety +38

      @@avak2101 Team Rocket could've stolen it from him

    • @wachinga
      @wachinga Před 2 lety +6

      @@GageLeFox IDK maybe he was just traveling with it only

  • @salvatoresultana4058
    @salvatoresultana4058 Před 2 lety +755

    Red didn't kill Blue's Raticate, Blue was actually smart and said "if this thing is on my team when I challenge the Elite 4, I won't be the Champion"

  • @williamyang19
    @williamyang19 Před 7 lety +2525

    I guess you could say that Radicate was,
    Eradicated

  • @megankarow2328
    @megankarow2328 Před 4 lety +2014

    “rattata doesn’t evolve until raticate until level 20.”
    lance and his illegal dragonites: “am i a joke to you?”

    • @turquoiseninju7
      @turquoiseninju7 Před 4 lety +14

      RAPUNZEL!!!!!!!!

    • @SammyK-jt3vv
      @SammyK-jt3vv Před 4 lety +83

      Yeah that's the only thing that didn't make sense to me, because it's very common for AI trainers to have underleveled evolutions

    • @dreamysnow3108
      @dreamysnow3108 Před 4 lety +45

      @@SammyK-jt3vv Cause there are some weird instances of catching under leveled evolved Pokemon like I waited for lv 15 for my charmander to evolve but to find a charmelion lv 14 in the wild

    • @Steven-dc6gm
      @Steven-dc6gm Před 4 lety +25

      Excuse me I once caught a lv 3 charizard.

    • @hexap3410
      @hexap3410 Před 4 lety +8

      @@Steven-dc6gm LOLOLOLOL XD

  • @cherrycrusader808
    @cherrycrusader808 Před 3 lety +433

    Game Theory: "not so legendary pokemon"
    Me: You were the OG, Raticate. You'll always be legendary to me.

  • @CrinFelks
    @CrinFelks Před 3 lety +334

    "It died becouse it didn't get healed fast"
    My Nidoking who fainted for 2 hours: *No.*

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 Před rokem +8

      Haha, when you go through Pearl, Diamond or Platinum up to spear pillar battling everything on the way.

    • @fizzy69o.0
      @fizzy69o.0 Před rokem +1

      Raticate lives ^w^

    • @cheyannerubyreda
      @cheyannerubyreda Před 9 měsíci

      If radiate lived as a gastly

    • @anonimo.4134
      @anonimo.4134 Před 2 měsíci

      Game mechanics are fortunately on our side.

  • @rupeshdutta9820
    @rupeshdutta9820 Před 3 lety +1587

    "You beat it so bad that it died" I just used bubble on it

  • @587DeathKing
    @587DeathKing Před 7 lety +4856

    Let's be honest who would take a Raticate to the Pokemon League

  • @Gabowsk
    @Gabowsk Před 3 lety +64

    Lance's inappropriately low-leveled Dragonites:
    Are you challenging me?

    • @snooze2699
      @snooze2699 Před 2 lety +1

      Missingno:Do You Guys I'm a Joke?

  • @naughtymelon6712
    @naughtymelon6712 Před 2 lety +78

    This was the first episode of game theory I ever watched. 5 years ago, my friend said he wanted to show me this really cool Pokémon video, and he unknowingly introduced me to one of my now favourite channels. Crazy how time flies.

  • @nataliaborys1554
    @nataliaborys1554 Před 5 lety +628

    Me: *watches this at 3am*
    Video: *drops in Lavender Town Music*
    Me: I regret my life choices.

  • @ZayneCal
    @ZayneCal Před 5 lety +968

    The floors must be thick to bury something on the second floor

  • @scottposton3428
    @scottposton3428 Před 2 lety +70

    Theory: He abandoned his Raticate because it failed the battle and the raticate died, and then was buried after being found some wher

  • @Grivian
    @Grivian Před 2 lety +23

    You forget the fact that Blue claims that he has caught 40 pokemon in the battle before the one on S.S Anne. He actively choses to not use 6 pokemon, supposedly because he wants to level up the strongest ones

    • @S_PRO_GAMEINGYT
      @S_PRO_GAMEINGYT Před měsícem +1

      Correct 💯
      Btw I was about to fight blue in SSN.
      I was scared to fight now
      But.....
      I remembered your explanation and....
      ITS JUST A GAME 😂

  • @bowsmed
    @bowsmed Před 7 lety +707

    How the hell do you bury something on the top floor of a building?

    • @Marianoejar
      @Marianoejar Před 7 lety +47

      I've always wondered this. When did you ever see a graveyard building?

    • @_GLXC
      @_GLXC Před 7 lety +88

      maybe those tombstones are actually tombs to contain the remains of the pokemon's ASHes

    • @Marianoejar
      @Marianoejar Před 7 lety +29

      _GLXC So if it's a Cryogonal it'd be a jar of water? #sorrynotsorry

    • @PrincessOzaline
      @PrincessOzaline Před 7 lety +6

      Could be that while they have grave markers only ashes, are stored (or even just sprinkled when the marker is erected).

    • @Topher1286
      @Topher1286 Před 7 lety +12

      I'm guessing the Pokemon Tower was a mausoleum, and those gravestones are actually tombs that hold the dead Pokemon.

  • @goldfish6525
    @goldfish6525 Před 5 lety +920

    I just want to point out that just because it might have died doesn't mean YOU killed it. I mean when Blue was getting off the boat Ratacate could have fell into the water.

    • @millbrick
      @millbrick Před 5 lety +29

      o o f

    • @damiennorth159
      @damiennorth159 Před 5 lety +4

      Its GARY.......

    • @turtleboi3236
      @turtleboi3236 Před 5 lety +12

      true but if it did was it in its pokeball

    • @YeahTheDuckweed
      @YeahTheDuckweed Před 5 lety +18

      @@turtleboi3236 And in the anime we know Pokemon literally cannot die of age as long as they're in a pokeball. Or starvation/dehydration, I suppose. I'm thinking to that D/P episode with the Sandshrew that was underwater and was *completely fine, immediately upon release.* And also in D/P with James' Carnivine he literally stashed away.
      Man, D/P has a lot to say about this theory, huh?

    • @goldfish6525
      @goldfish6525 Před 5 lety

      @Emerson Jarrett
      Thank you

  • @Graydog801
    @Graydog801 Před 2 lety +10

    7:59 GUYS LETS TAKE THAT OUT OF CONTEXT

  • @bigbadundeaddaddy
    @bigbadundeaddaddy Před 3 lety +17

    Random trainers pokemon faints: goes into the pokeball.
    Ashes pokemon faint: get killed.

  • @SsbPrime
    @SsbPrime Před 7 lety +2030

    Here's a genius idea: Red isn't the only one who fights Blue.

    • @shaneyy__
      @shaneyy__ Před 7 lety +166

      No, that would make too much sense.

    • @JPduprat
      @JPduprat Před 7 lety +82

      GG

    • @samuelmartinez1070
      @samuelmartinez1070 Před 7 lety +48

      plot twist prof.oak has battled him

    • @Ikine557
      @Ikine557 Před 7 lety +28

      I know, right?! That's what I always think when I hear this theory.

    • @LegendLeaguer
      @LegendLeaguer Před 7 lety +59

      But obviously only the player is badass enough to kill off another trainers Pokemon :P

  • @user-fh9mf2hk6j
    @user-fh9mf2hk6j Před 4 lety +679

    Imagine Nintendo commenting here:
    oops we didn't notice that we removed Ratticate lol

    • @corpbandit2395
      @corpbandit2395 Před 4 lety +17

      True Hacker ratticare sounds like a health care plan

    • @danytus_
      @danytus_ Před 3 lety +1

      Um. They shoud have noticed by the time the creepypastas started to occur. Sigh.

    • @user-fh9mf2hk6j
      @user-fh9mf2hk6j Před 3 lety +4

      @@danytus_ Can't you just take a goddamn joke?

    • @danytus_
      @danytus_ Před 3 lety +3

      @@ocelotlesbian Shut up.

    • @DaBigADH
      @DaBigADH Před 3 lety

      @@danytus_ it's a joke idiot
      Imagine not getting a joke

  • @matthias5260
    @matthias5260 Před rokem +41

    Matpat let me introduce you to the ability lighting rod, an ability that helps ash’s case for throwing pikachu into an electric gauntlet

    • @zackwilson4607
      @zackwilson4607 Před rokem +2

      Except pikachu does get harmed but other lightning attacks which implies he doesn’t have that skill. (Pikachu does do something similar at the very end of the Lt. Surge battle by standing on his tail)

    • @alissafudge3459
      @alissafudge3459 Před rokem

      Yes that sounds great

  • @flamebirdm6173
    @flamebirdm6173 Před 3 lety +31

    Gary: Ok Raticate I am 90 percent sure you woulnd't die, just dont hit your self in confusion, If you do hit your self the next hit from ash will be fatal
    Gary: Alright Raticate use hyper fang!!
    Ash: If it isnt 100 percentaccurate it is 50 percent accurate
    *1 second later*
    Game: Raticate fainted

  • @kirbydude2523
    @kirbydude2523 Před 5 lety +1015

    He forgot Spoink. It would die of heart failure if it stopped bouncing.

    • @classyglassy2035
      @classyglassy2035 Před 5 lety +55

      Which is why it's so traumatizing to KO one in Coliseum.

    • @straightfromdema
      @straightfromdema Před 4 lety +32

      Or Charmanders whole evolution line dying if it’s tail flame is extinguished

    • @ixpextion3145
      @ixpextion3145 Před 4 lety +8

      Connor Rose MatPat said that in the video idiot

    • @iexist7352
      @iexist7352 Před 4 lety +17

      it's like that guy from asdfmovie who ever stops singing explodes

    • @cinderpxmpkin9554
      @cinderpxmpkin9554 Před 4 lety +5

      Ixpextion jerk

  • @OldBird388
    @OldBird388 Před 7 lety +410

    I drove past a cemetery playing Pokemon go and a raticate popped up

  • @cheese-and-ricemooney7487

    4:29
    MatPat: It seems like a stupid question.
    Me: *Can't sleep and search everywhere to find out how Pokémon dies*
    I'm serious, this was like my biggest question of all the time.
    I tortured my younger brother with this question XD
    Only after some months I remembered MatPat and his Channel because I was searching for scary things in Minecraft and Pokémon and then found this, and I knew from the start that I could sleep peacefully and guilty after this video.

  • @natsudragneel7083
    @natsudragneel7083 Před 2 lety +5

    Right there with you matt, that latios scene is one heck of a tear jerker. Bo matter how many times i see that seen i will always cry a little for it. They did really good with tugging at the heart strings

  • @Renegade_
    @Renegade_ Před 7 lety +2163

    Maybe Gary didn't want to use Raticate because he's garbage.

    • @Renegade_
      @Renegade_ Před 7 lety +126

      Wow that's actually the conclusion Mat came to. Well.

    • @TwoDerpsAndAComputer
      @TwoDerpsAndAComputer Před 7 lety +7

      +RenegadeGamer HAHAHA well there's no reason for me to watch the rest of this video cause someone didnt post the SPOILER ALERT

    • @jacobmullin3428
      @jacobmullin3428 Před 7 lety +9

      congrats on that prediction.

    • @angelgames8711
      @angelgames8711 Před 7 lety +12

      Well, Raticate, with the right moveset, was actually able to be a powerful ally to beat the game. I played a "Gary Run" where I used only Gary-owned Pokemon through the game. Keeping Raticate would have helped him out if he kept it leveled with his team. Raticate eRaticated Lorelei (only being Lv. 57), wasn't used vs Bruno Mars, destroyed Agatha's Golbat and Arbok and was useful against her other Pokemon, then only fainted when I got to Lance. If trained well, it's quite powerful, especially with Alakazam to make up for its weaknesses.

    • @itsjustblaze3489
      @itsjustblaze3489 Před 7 lety +3

      A fully evovled raticate is pretty strong tbh. doesnt mean he looks like a rat that you can judge him by apperance.

  • @rosealeeclark6476
    @rosealeeclark6476 Před 5 lety +304

    What's funny is last year I actually found a giant rat chewing on my ramen packets... Shrimp.
    We moved then.

  • @user-wq6od6jm5v
    @user-wq6od6jm5v Před 3 lety +7

    That raticate evolved because of BOND OF FRIENDSHIP!!!

  • @lakemon8093
    @lakemon8093 Před 2 lety +3

    Blue also talks about how many different pokemon he has caught, saying on the S.S Anne (I believe) he has caught 40 different types of pokemon, but only has 4 on his team. Proving more that he just boxed both his original rattata and his raticate.

  • @RaeRaven13
    @RaeRaven13 Před 4 lety +966

    My older brother told me once that “Pokémon is basically dogfighting but with cuter and more complex animals” and now I’ve never been able to look at the game the same.
    I still love Eevee tho

  • @alexanderl7059
    @alexanderl7059 Před 7 lety +236

    "The weird palm tree is better in every category than the giant rat"
    Exeggutor's Speed: 55
    Raticate's Speed: 97
    :P

    • @AppleberrySmith
      @AppleberrySmith Před 7 lety

      XD

    • @WalleFails
      @WalleFails Před 7 lety +7

      speed is in every case the most important stat. there is no arguing against that.

    • @smd0512
      @smd0512 Před 4 lety

      @@WalleFails I prefer defenses than speed

    • @DripJambe
      @DripJambe Před rokem

      @@smd0512 I mean in a game where your pokemon can get one shot from a strong attack, even neutral, defense really doesn’t matter.

    • @SarcasticBeingYes
      @SarcasticBeingYes Před 8 měsíci

      pokemon is about who can 1 shot the other person first

  • @emilycox2930
    @emilycox2930 Před 3 lety +5

    Me:see you in hell
    Gary:ok nerd
    Me goes to heaven
    Gary:fudge

  • @deSolAxe
    @deSolAxe Před 2 lety +4

    Re-watching again...
    I always just assumed that Garry left that space open intentionally... I mean if you're trying to catch a pokémon and are looking for something specific like ability, nature or stats... wouldn't you leave one spot open so that you can check as soon as you catch it?

  • @matthewmiller8153
    @matthewmiller8153 Před 4 lety +1485

    Pokemon logic: pokemon are buried on floors above ground level
    Edit: What have I done?!

    • @_.SC_
      @_.SC_ Před 4 lety +76

      @bacon hair Looking at the Sun and the Moon. I burnt mah eyes.  ̄へ ̄
      *But Srsly, your right They turn to dust.*

    • @gamerfc1
      @gamerfc1 Před 3 lety +33

      *Just noticed that now because you said it*
      *My life is a lie :(*

    • @Levi_The_One_The_Only
      @Levi_The_One_The_Only Před 3 lety +12

      I've never thought about that before wtff

    • @montaviacasey5812
      @montaviacasey5812 Před 3 lety +14

      @bacon hair no they turn into ghastlys and can talk but they prefer to say rawr

    • @irabeck
      @irabeck Před 3 lety +18

      yeah that fact always kinda fucked with me, like are there corpses hanging from the ceiling?

  • @sunscreen7205
    @sunscreen7205 Před 7 lety +259

    More importantly, how do you bury dead Pokemon in a 7-floor building? Ashes? In their Pokeball?

    • @jakobreel217
      @jakobreel217 Před 7 lety +12

      Lakigr just puts the pokeball in a hydraulic press

    • @MoojinBoi
      @MoojinBoi Před 7 lety +4

      +Lord Frieza Ayy shoutout to TFS

    • @MonteCreations
      @MonteCreations Před 7 lety +4

      Its basically a giant mausoleum; those small stone buildings you see in cemeteries. Instead of the bodies being buried in the ground, they are instead stored in the floors and walls of a building.

    • @pusillirex
      @pusillirex Před 7 lety +2

      Velkom tü de hüdrolik press channel

    • @ClockworkCouture.
      @ClockworkCouture. Před 7 lety +6

      I think it's in their Pokeballs, I've always believed that there's a little cupboard thing in the bottom of the gravestones that trainers can place their deceased Pokemon's Pokeball in.

  • @cierraslowsdown
    @cierraslowsdown Před 2 lety +2

    I can’t get over the theme… the single notes going into the guitar rift is EVERYTHING

  • @notjoker4878
    @notjoker4878 Před 3 lety +3

    MatPat I cant express how good the intro is

  • @dumpsterracoon9920
    @dumpsterracoon9920 Před 6 lety +688

    "The weird palm tree is better than the giant rat." -MatPat
    Oh wow

  • @sketchyscars2482
    @sketchyscars2482 Před 5 lety +312

    "We only see two pokemon die across the series"
    A few years later
    Pokemon sun and moon: Hold my beer

  • @sodaheist4017
    @sodaheist4017 Před 2 lety +3

    5:10
    Matpat as a kid when they got his order wrong at mcdonalds

  • @thepotato8408
    @thepotato8408 Před 2 lety +5

    4:53 doesn't a Luxary also die in one of the movies as well?

  • @yadirect
    @yadirect Před 4 lety +785

    doesn't evolve until certain level? yeah, ask that to lance and his three inappropriate leveled dragonites

  • @hazeltree7738
    @hazeltree7738 Před 5 lety +510

    I didn't call my rival Asshat, I called them something more original...
    Buttcap.

  • @belindaclark3034
    @belindaclark3034 Před rokem +2

    Pedro Araujo, legendary Pokemon animator, depicted the death of raticate as drowned falling into the sea because of Red's nidoking.

  • @hate_love1250
    @hate_love1250 Před 3 lety +2

    Man, rewatching these is an experience. No wonder I used to headcanon every theory video as true as a child, you just put it in a way that it makes sense to me.
    I mean, I may not know much about the older generations of Pokemon, but I do know Garry... Isn't exactly the best. Garry probably was wandering at some point and found an already-evolved Raticate, caught it, and switched Ratata out for it because he thought it was stronger, and did the same when he found Exeggcute.
    Or, you could notice some of the comments below as I saw one that said he possibly could have forced the Ratata to evolve (Which I know is possible because I very much remember an Pokemon Anime episode where this one guy was forcing his Pokemon to work unreasonably hard) and because of that and the battle on the S.S Anne it died.
    Either way, even if this video was released about 4 years ago, I gotta appreciate it.

    • @admiralmeow3161
      @admiralmeow3161 Před 2 lety

      oh man that episode was season 1 episode 8, ash pointed out that it was wrong but they just let it slide because that trainer beat team rocket

  • @lvalv
    @lvalv Před 3 lety +2666

    Plot twist : they are actually playing nuzlocke

  • @shirox11
    @shirox11 Před 3 lety +373

    Gary even says in the game before one battle that he’s caught 40 kinds of Pokémon so unless he has a mass amount of dead Pokémon, the answer is obvious.

    • @shadithakis
      @shadithakis Před rokem +11

      Bro would have to be filling up The Lavender Tower himself

    • @Polus-Sulop
      @Polus-Sulop Před 6 měsíci

      yea

    • @mariox204
      @mariox204 Před 3 měsíci

      And uf iirc it was imposible to be 40 entries

    • @reitairue2073
      @reitairue2073 Před 2 měsíci

      @@mariox204 Nah that was assuming a bunch of stuff. He could easily have had more than 40.

  • @paxtonkubitz1043
    @paxtonkubitz1043 Před 2 lety +3

    Can we just stop for a moment and admire how beautiful his singing was

  • @therealrglccassidy
    @therealrglccassidy Před 3 lety +4

    I fear no man but thoes things:
    *Matpatts old thumnails*
    It scares me!

  • @riverward7161
    @riverward7161 Před 7 lety +465

    I guess you could say raticate got E"raticate"d

  • @abitclosertoheaven5659
    @abitclosertoheaven5659 Před 4 lety +3751

    MatPat: There are only three Pokémon that died: Floette, Lucario, and Latios.
    Marowak: Am I a joke to you?
    Edit: guys this was 2 years ago leave me alone
    Guys why are you still leaving comments leave me alone T_T
    STOP COMMENTING

    • @mohamadismail1569
      @mohamadismail1569 Před 4 lety +27

      Stolen joke

    • @onyxwooldridge9615
      @onyxwooldridge9615 Před 4 lety +123

      And the flipping' electric type gym guy from Pokemon x and y's luxray. (I can remember this, yet I can't remember his name.) He freezes to death in the snow.

    • @matthewkim9639
      @matthewkim9639 Před 4 lety +16

      When did lucario die

    • @shadedcycle
      @shadedcycle Před 4 lety +27

      Matthew Kim the movie: Lucario and the mystery of Mew

    • @Carbinexis
      @Carbinexis Před 4 lety +9

      Luxray?

  • @iris8852
    @iris8852 Před rokem +2

    2:54 Your forgetting that he could have also released Raticate as well so-

  • @NightmareTunnel
    @NightmareTunnel Před 2 lety +2

    Even more proof you did not kill the radicate is during the champion battle. Blue/gary says he went around collecting pokemon everywhere and he only chose the strongest for the final battle.

  • @meander90
    @meander90 Před 3 lety +761

    Pokémon theorists: YOU KILLED RATICATE!
    Me who didn’t beat him: huh?

  • @Zpixiewanwan1249
    @Zpixiewanwan1249 Před 4 lety +452

    "Guess you could say Raticate got eRaticated"
    badumm tsss...
    (aight imma head out)

  • @krisreaddesc366
    @krisreaddesc366 Před 3 lety +5

    well gary didn’t tell me he was doing a nuzlocke 😤

  • @bluetowel-reko
    @bluetowel-reko Před 2 lety +1

    If i remember, he was looking for a cubone in the tower or he was also looking for a ghastly. So that just explain why he was there. Not to mention, he also said "I looked for every pokemon that can beat and types!" before we fight him in the pokemon league, normal cant counter anything other than ghost types which they cant even hit. So the logical thing to do is to box it, since he already have a alakazam.

  • @TheUnusualSuspect
    @TheUnusualSuspect Před 7 lety +3326

    Here's my theory about this. Now because Gary's Raticate is at level 16 in its final battle that leaves Mat to believe that it wasn't the same Ratata 'cos Ratata doesn't evolve until level 20.
    But here's the thing, the absolute lowest level you can catch a Raticate in Red/Blue in the wild is level 23 in Route 16. So Gary couldn't have caught it in the wild either (unless you're playing Yellow as a Raticate can be caught Level 15 there).
    So that leaves me to believe that Gary forced his Ratata to evolve early. Now it sounds impossible but remember that Gary doesn't exactly treat his Pokemon with love and respect.
    My thought is that Gary pushed his Ratata so hard that it evolved faster than it should have. And this strain that this put Ratata/Raticate under is what causes it to die when you make it faint in the battle at the SS Anne.

    • @tomek6132
      @tomek6132 Před 7 lety +289

      That makes more sense actually

    • @bowesrbuster2351
      @bowesrbuster2351 Před 7 lety +215

      yeah, blue/garry is not the only one, lance has underleved dragonites in the end of the game, and theres alot more examples in the other games too.

    • @KajChambers
      @KajChambers Před 7 lety +94

      I swear Falkner had like a level 9 Pidgeotto in GSC and level 13 in HGSS.

    • @barrykimber7692
      @barrykimber7692 Před 7 lety +62

      You, my sir, are a legend

    • @dustrose8101
      @dustrose8101 Před 7 lety +48

      That's definitely something worth rolling around in the brain.

  • @KingsleyIII
    @KingsleyIII Před 5 lety +248

    I've never liked the "You Killed Blue's Raticate" theory. My main evidence against it is when you beat him before Nugget Bridge, he says "I went to Bill's and got him to show me his rare Pokémon! . . . He invented the Pokémon Storage System on PC! Since you're using his system, go thank him!" This strongly implies that thanking Bill is what Blue was just doing, further implying that Blue uses the storage system. The simplest explanation: Blue stored his Raticate.

    • @BryanX64
      @BryanX64 Před 4 lety +6

      Not nearly as interesting.

    • @BoraCM
      @BoraCM Před 4 lety +15

      I think the reason why he switches out his Raticate is to say that you can store your pokemon. I think the pokemon company did it as an example, saying that since he did it, you can do it too.

    • @pikachixatron5863
      @pikachixatron5863 Před 4 lety +4

      That is a good theory actually

    • @electricbeast4403
      @electricbeast4403 Před 4 lety +3

      Yea that battle was before you got on s.s Anne where u "killed" Raticate

    • @joelandmedado9984
      @joelandmedado9984 Před 4 lety +1

      But he said that in the theory

  • @skilfularcher
    @skilfularcher Před rokem +1

    This is why I need to wait til the end of the episodes, because I was going to say “this is depressing” but right before I did, Mat said “absolutely not”

  • @dylangibson7524
    @dylangibson7524 Před 3 lety +4

    The single issue I have with this theory is the fact that it uses so much evidence from the TV series, which really pushes the boundaries of "official canon" imo... lots of impossible things happen in the series that kind of offset the lore of the game.

    • @GubbiGap
      @GubbiGap Před rokem +1

      At least the level thing which decided it all is from the games so it ultimately didn't matter

  • @SaxMan1975
    @SaxMan1975 Před 3 lety +181

    The first time I ever heard this “You killed raticate ” theory, I thought of course he uses his box. He says on the ss Anne I caught 40 Kinds of Pokemon. In case you don’t know Once a Pokemon is caught, it’s stored in The pc.

  • @dt5622
    @dt5622 Před 5 lety +491

    Maybe Raticate just went abroad to study

  • @NbLumineIzHere
    @NbLumineIzHere Před 2 lety +1

    Matpat: blue’s raticate can’t be dead bc its not the level it would evolve
    Lance with under levelled dragonite that shouldn’t be able to exist: *sweating nervously*

  • @PatrickWDunne
    @PatrickWDunne Před 2 lety +1

    11:50 "Just a superficial glance shows you that the weird palm tree is better in every category than the giant rat."
    Raticate's 97 speed: Am I a joke to you?

  • @BigFry9591
    @BigFry9591 Před 7 lety +843

    So you did watch Pokemon Heroes?
    Then, (semi spoiler alert):
    Do a theory on who kissed Ash at the end please. Please! Nobody has been able to figure it out and we need to bring this thing home. The theory that Ash was kissed by Latias.

    • @pnkqt
      @pnkqt Před 7 lety +38

      +Micah Philpotts (DarkTaka) "Latiass" omfg

    • @azurememory
      @azurememory Před 7 lety +31

      Ash was indeed kissed by Latias

    • @thepanda414
      @thepanda414 Před 7 lety +6

      I would say it was almost directly implied to be latias. That would be very out of character for bianca to not even say anything.

    • @Nerdvanna98
      @Nerdvanna98 Před 7 lety +2

      I would say it was pretty implied that it was latias since she didn't speak one and bianca had no connection to Ash that way

    • @Nerdvanna98
      @Nerdvanna98 Před 7 lety +1

      I would say it was pretty implied that it was latias since she didn't speak one and bianca had no connection to Ash that way

  • @DrDucklesworth
    @DrDucklesworth Před 6 lety +456

    I switched my giant rat for a palm tree.
    Let that sink in.

    • @st8vie282
      @st8vie282 Před 6 lety +11

      Ducky McSaggy I thought this comment was mine

    • @st8vie282
      @st8vie282 Před 6 lety +2

      Jonathan Evan nice

    • @DrDucklesworth
      @DrDucklesworth Před 6 lety +3

      haha

    • @tragic1663
      @tragic1663 Před 6 lety +5

      What is happening here seriously

    • @absynthefaerie
      @absynthefaerie Před 6 lety +3

      Dr. Ducklesworth the II lemme switch that 🌴 with a bag of trash

  • @Coolman23.
    @Coolman23. Před 3 lety

    Bro that sponser transition is just perfection

  • @Korokwithabigbackpack
    @Korokwithabigbackpack Před měsícem +4

    7 years late but maybe he forced it to evolve early, and the pressure killed it

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před měsícem +1

      That could be applied to any trainer at that point

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před měsícem +1

      Also you could literally find multiple under level 20 raticate in wild you kinda accusing him for nothing

  • @Bainsy174
    @Bainsy174 Před 5 lety +2225

    Go matpat
    Matpat used logic
    It’s super effective
    Viewer fainted
    Rival sent out critic
    Critic used judge
    It’s not very effective
    Matpat used logic
    Critic fainted
    Viewer blacked out
    Matpat gets 4 free theories

    • @buddyboltgaming8269
      @buddyboltgaming8269 Před 5 lety +39

      @Mr. Nintendo nintendo used copystike

    • @Bainsy174
      @Bainsy174 Před 5 lety +35

      Game theory used revived on Matpat
      Matpat used sympathy
      It’s super effective

    • @pancakez388
      @pancakez388 Před 5 lety +22

      Matpat used theory
      Hater fainted
      CZcams sent out A FRIKEN EEVEE
      matpat used stare
      A FRIKEN EEVEE fainted
      Matpat gets 800€

    • @charliecotterill3997
      @charliecotterill3997 Před 5 lety +17

      I use subscribe

    • @zub_cero0
      @zub_cero0 Před 4 lety +12

      *clocks gun* Viewer used Self destruct

  • @sacrilegiousboi
    @sacrilegiousboi Před 3 lety +165

    After all these years I still find it funny matt doesnt mention rattata can die If its teeth grow too long

  • @cyanrose0712
    @cyanrose0712 Před rokem +2

    Let me disprove this theory real quick:
    The level 16 Raticate that can’t be the same actually can be. We have seen under leveled Pokémon before; most famous being Lance and his 3 under leveled Dragonites. The next thing I want to say is: why is Blue in a cemetery, saying you didn’t bury your Pokémon when he challenges you there? The next piece of evidence I want to provide is that the Trainers don’t know they are in a game, meaning they don’t see levels like we do, at least that we know of. Another I want you to check is if it’s nature and ability are the same, it’s 90% that they are the same Pokémon.
    All my evidence disproving this theory.

  • @lubiehotstopy
    @lubiehotstopy Před 3 lety +2

    I love how in the right grave is Cubone mom

  • @ikewangen
    @ikewangen Před 7 lety +448

    Arent there a lot of illegal level pokemon that npcs have?

    • @spiritfarer3306
      @spiritfarer3306 Před 7 lety +6

      Yep

    • @KratosAurionPlays
      @KratosAurionPlays Před 7 lety +14

      Maybe wild pokemon have different evolution rules than trained pokemon and then those trainers caught them after the fact.

    • @linkng7665
      @linkng7665 Před 7 lety +14

      One example without looking up Bulbapedia: Team Rocket Trio's Arbok and Weezing in Yellow
      Look up and you'll find more
      So... Does that mean Team Rocket Trio also changed (not evolved) Ekans into Arbok, and Koffing to Weezing?

    • @Shade2800
      @Shade2800 Před 7 lety +7

      Ghetsis's Hydreigon in Black and White anyone?

    • @countnecula3036
      @countnecula3036 Před 7 lety +31

      Lance had a level 40 Dragonite. LEVEL 40.

  • @Marshadow01
    @Marshadow01 Před 4 lety +130

    Also this has nothing to do with the video but I’ll say it anyway: if ur rival chose squirtle, he will have a arcanine and exeggutor. If ur rival chose bulbasaur, he will have a gyrados and a arcanine. If ur rival chose charmander, he will have a gyrados and a exeggutor.
    Just to let u know matpat,

    • @mikehenderson7907
      @mikehenderson7907 Před 4 lety +3

      I never noticed that.
      That's cool.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Před 4 lety

      Mike Henderson yeah. He also did that in Yellow with Gyrados/Arcanine/Raichu, if I remember properly.

  • @Skarfar90
    @Skarfar90 Před 2 lety +1

    The battle in Pokemon Tower is actually the 4th rival battle. The first rival battle on Route 22 is optional, and is normally referred to as Rival 1A

  • @claudiagomez6859
    @claudiagomez6859 Před 2 lety +3

    4:04 pokemon killer not animal killer

  • @SketchUT
    @SketchUT Před 4 lety +258

    Nobody:
    My brain: wanna relive the moment where you began to watch this video when it came out 3 years ago? No?
    My brain:
    My brain:
    My brain:
    My brain: Too bad.

  • @Zexonyte
    @Zexonyte Před 7 lety +376

    I think that Pokémon can evolve earlier when they're trained by NPCs. This is evidence from a different game, but if MatPat can use questionable canon then so can I. In Pokémon GSC, Lance fights you at the Indigo Plateau with two level 47 and a level 50 Dragonite. When _you_ train Dragonair, however, it doesn't evolve until level 55. So I think it's entirely plausible that Gary's Raticate is the same Pokémon as his level 15 Rattata at Nugget Bridge. As an NPC, he's able to make his Pokémon evolve at a different level than you.

    • @humberto62835
      @humberto62835 Před 7 lety +14

      yeah lastly matpat theories have been stretched a litte bit...

    • @lechengli3204
      @lechengli3204 Před 7 lety +12

      see,video games tend to be assholes when it comes to NPC levels and items,from early leveling to not having enough strenght to being overwieght

    • @Wylade
      @Wylade Před 7 lety +24

      so we're going to accept that NPCs are magic and can make pokemon evolve faster, but not that Garys team is only 5 pokemon for balance reasons?

    • @Remiyia
      @Remiyia Před 7 lety +4

      But then again, at the nugget bridge battle, his starter is Level 17 and it still hasn't evolved yet. There is also the chance that he could've cancelled the evolution, but I doubt he would for whatever reason, since if he was waiting to get a move earlier which would be Scary Face/Rapid Spin/Razor Leaf (Charmander/Squirtle/Bulbasaur, all learned at Level 19), they still get that move, just 1 or 2 levels later after evolving. They're also in my opinion not that good/helpful since this isn't really including competitive play. His starter doesn't evolve till the next time you see him on the S.S. Anne, which is then Level 20, which then if he chose Bulbasaur OR Squirtle, then they would have Rapid Spin or Razor Leaf since those are learned at level 20 after evolving into Ivysaur/Wartortle, but not Scary Face if he picked Charmander, since Charmeleon learns that at level 21.

    • @rockwitharms7455
      @rockwitharms7455 Před 7 lety +11

      +Wylade I believe he set Raticate free/abandoned it because in the anime he abandons a Caterpie because it's too weak. And because Raticate is weaker than Exeggutor, he abandoned Raticate.

  • @kidkat8632
    @kidkat8632 Před 3 lety

    Me: ready for a story
    Matpat: I'm sponsored!!
    Me: gotta do me like that

  • @toaster729
    @toaster729 Před 2 lety +1

    Matpat: starts telling a story
    Me: "Ooh!"
    Matpat: "Available as an audio book..."
    Me: "Aw man! I thought you were gonna read me a story in that beautiful voice of yours!"
    For real tho, I'd listen to this man read a book about taxes.

  • @F1rstNameLastName
    @F1rstNameLastName Před 4 lety +124

    He probably just put it in his PC. He stated in a previous battle that he's already caught like 30-40 Pokemon, even though he doesn't have a full party during the battles afterwards.

    • @simuna6921
      @simuna6921 Před 2 lety +2

      A fate worse than death

    • @dylanfuller8146
      @dylanfuller8146 Před 2 lety

      Fr

    • @zeldafan6124
      @zeldafan6124 Před rokem

      Yeah, that's what the video is saying

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 Před rokem

      You can have 40 pokemon, but only 5 viable ones and unless you're doing a nuzlocke, it doesn't matter if you have that 6th pokemon or not.

  • @coilovercat
    @coilovercat Před 5 lety +125

    1:53 funny thing is, I actually called him assface.

  • @MULTIGAMER743
    @MULTIGAMER743 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Now, this isn't a theory about pokemon, but it's more of a question:
    How many times have team rocket blasted off again and how are they alive?

  • @roywray7634
    @roywray7634 Před rokem +1

    Matpad:*talking about stuff* me: the only thing I want to know now, is why there is two more minutes left, the mystery is solved

  • @JoeGess
    @JoeGess Před 7 lety +98

    11:49 *cough cough* Except Speed *cough cough*

    • @64enderman86
      @64enderman86 Před 7 lety +1

      lkr lol

    • @dentphone3755
      @dentphone3755 Před 7 lety +13

      But come on, one is a rat and the other is a tree with a few faces on it

    • @faredaayub7945
      @faredaayub7945 Před 7 lety

      grkmk

    • @vivomega3937
      @vivomega3937 Před 7 lety +2

      speed don't mean anything in the end if that is all it got going for it.
      Butterfree & Beedrill are hell of a lot faster than the rat and can do more as well.
      the rat is weak to more or less everything other than ghost attacks. having a Magikcarp in the team would be over all better as it will evo into something far better.. but then again I think Gary lacks the attention span to wait that long.

    • @Ro-gp8lj
      @Ro-gp8lj Před 7 lety

      +Dizzy Tackson It should still do that. Then having decent speed would be important to have.

  • @victorf6672
    @victorf6672 Před 7 lety +121

    Guys, KD signed with the Warriors, there is no more loyalty, Gary just swapped Pokémon.

  • @hiyapatil5379
    @hiyapatil5379 Před 2 lety +1

    If you put the "you killed Raticate!" theory in perspective with the end of the game, Blue's life has basically been trashed by the time he's 12. He's seen his Pokemon die, failed his ultimate goal, lost to a childhood friend, even his grandfather's attention is refocused on said friend. That's kinda heavy. Also I mean the dude's can literally be renamed Asshat, he's got a pretty shitty life to start with

  • @braydenmccurry8342
    @braydenmccurry8342 Před 3 lety +2

    Just glad I'm not the only one looking at Old theory's

  • @littlegamingbird9735
    @littlegamingbird9735 Před 5 lety +480

    Here's a simple theory:
    Remember how Lance has a level 47 Dragonite? Dragonite evolves at level 55.I'm assuming Pokemon doesn't check what level Pokemon evolve.

    • @wornoob3420
      @wornoob3420 Před 5 lety +3

      Lance is my first love

    • @grand_kurac_nick1208
      @grand_kurac_nick1208 Před 5 lety +1

      little gamingbird good point

    • @cheeseprize9446
      @cheeseprize9446 Před 5 lety +3

      A stone I guess. Idrk

    • @mrNobody0669
      @mrNobody0669 Před 5 lety +11

      little gamingbird lance could’ve just caught it at that level

    • @justaregulartoaster
      @justaregulartoaster Před 5 lety +40

      I think gamefreak doesn't give a damn about logic. I mean, you play a 10 year old who goes out into the world to live alone,
      to capture wild animals,
      and to battle criminal organisations where police failed.
      You can fit a whole bicycle into your backpack, and running is absolutely impossible without wearing the right shoes.
      The professor next door asks you what gender you are,
      and he forgets the name of his own grandson.
      There are other trainers who are standing in the exact same spot 24/7,
      and they immediately want to battle if they see you in front of them.
      If you're next to them, they can't see you.
      A bottle of water from a vending machine heals more HP than a potion designed for it,
      and medical animal care is completely free of cost.
      If your team faints, you run to the last pokemon center you were in, even if it's 5 cities away.
      If you are in the middle of a cave, you can use a rope to get out.
      You are not allowed to even exist outside of your town without pokemon to protect you.
      Except for the safari zone, where there's gigantic, wild pokemon, that's not dangerous at all.
      And driving your bike in closed buildings is prohibited, professor oak will tell you that, he always knows where you are.
      There are ledges where it's impossible to climb up, but at the same time completely safe to jump down.
      There are gold nuggets scattered all over the place, and they are coincidentally ALL found by the same person. Which is you.
      A sleeping pokemon can break out of a ball if you try to catch it, then it continues sleeping.
      A poisoned pokemon only takes damage if you move.
      Random strangers give you their money and phone number if you defeat them.
      If you catch a water pokemon, you have to teach it how to surf.
      Throughout your whole journey, you never need to go to toilet,
      and you never eat or drink anything, and you never sleep.
      Once you defeated the top 4, you can come back and the guy who was master is still master, even though you clearly are now better.
      You (still 10 years old) can go into a casino without a problem,
      and pokemon battles with high amounts of money betting are legal in your age.
      The police consists entirely of identical looking policewomen,
      and all nurses look identical too.
      That pokemon whose name i can't remember, the bird with two heads, can fly. Even though it doesn't have wings.
      It can even carry you, to a city you've been before (only to cities, and only if you've been there before).
      So can pidgey, a bird the size of a pigeon.
      In battle, you can use your attacks regardless of your environment: flying up high while being inside of a small cave at the same time is entirely possible.
      But what isn't possible is using the splash attack, which magikarp performs, to do any damage.
      Though, according to the pokedex, magikarp can use it to jump over the top of mountains.
      If inventory is full with a bicycle, a fishing rod, 44 pokeballs, 23 repels, 30 potions, 2 antidotes, 8 gold nuggets, a big load of money, a pokedex, a phone, a radio, your badges and loads of hms and tms, and you happen to find a candy on the floor, you can't carry it.
      You are still able to throw a pokeball, but you cannot transport this candy.
      There is a city where the only way out or in leads through a family's home.
      But that's no problem, because if you enter a stranger's house, without ringing the doorbell or knocking, they will still welcome you, give you a gift and tell you their life story.
      There are not toilets anywhere. Or sinks, or barhtubs.
      There are pokemon centers everywhere, but not a single human hospital. Or fire station. And only one or two police stations.
      There are fences in the middle of hiking paths which are arranged like mazes.
      If there's a sleeping relaxo blocking our path, we can't catch it, or squeeze past it, or climb over, no, we need to wake it up.
      That is only possible using the pokemon flute.
      See, i could go on forever.

  • @samcarey2001
    @samcarey2001 Před 7 lety +71

    I couldn't help but laugh on the "on your journey to be the very best, like no one ever was."

  • @toadshifttoadette4585
    @toadshifttoadette4585 Před 2 lety +1

    There's all this suspicion about Gary's ratata and raticate dying/getting stored in a box but no one raised suspicion to them getting Stolen by none other than team Rocket. Or maybe just traded with one or two of them.

  • @DoodleSnek
    @DoodleSnek Před 3 lety +4

    *scared modern Pokemon noises as I snuggle close to galar region and my Alolan Raticate from Pokemon lets go Pikachu.*

  • @dunkymonkery
    @dunkymonkery Před 7 lety +243

    It's funny how he posted this the same day Papa Franku posted his

    • @jestevez36
      @jestevez36 Před 7 lety +2

      Collab?

    • @the_bringer
      @the_bringer Před 7 lety +2

      AnImAl RiGhTs

    • @rickypham9453
      @rickypham9453 Před 7 lety +8

      Coincidence I think not
      Blo bo bo bu bu ble ble ble ble ble ble
      That's just a theory a CZcams theory

    • @Alystairre
      @Alystairre Před 7 lety

      lol

    • @e_tas_
      @e_tas_ Před 7 lety

      I don't know who Papa Franku is but it must either be a coincidence or a collab because there is no way this video was done in a single day.

  • @nick_tl_ouma7167
    @nick_tl_ouma7167 Před 7 lety +288

    Lavender town's music is so catchy.

  • @JFishen
    @JFishen Před 3 lety +7

    Theory: Red after killing Blues raticate was shunned by everyone including professor oak and his own mother, seeing this put him in a deep depression and he isolated himself from others. He then went to Mount Silver to be alone with his pokemon who were his only family at that point. During that 1 year period Red and his pokemon eventually died due to hypothermia because of the freezing temperatures there, which would explain why he doesnt speak and why he disappeared when he was utterly defeated by Gold. After being defeated it finally put his spirit to rest and same goes with his pokemon.

    • @djhunter3756
      @djhunter3756 Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting lore story theory idea thing lol 👍

  • @amandacarricato3487
    @amandacarricato3487 Před 2 lety +1

    2:32 You can’t have that team when you face off against the champion. Gamefreak made it so that he will have all three types in the starter type trio. If your rival picked Blastiose, then your rival would have an Arcanine and Executor, but you showed Blastoise, Gyrados, and Executor which is impossible because it wouldn’t cover the starter type trip.
    I know I’m just nitpicking.
    Great Vid!