Can You Dry Firewood With Hydraulic Press?
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2022
- Can You Dry Firewood With 150 ton Hydraulic Press? Fresh firewood can have 50% of it's mass in water but for optimal heat generation it should have only 15% so why not just push all the water out with force of our hydraulic press?
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This is such a fascinating idea! I always bring my 150-ton hydraulic press camping, but I never know what to use it for.
Clearly, you use it for all the things that your 100-ton press proved incapable of doing the last time you went camping.
You don't use to see how small you can make your tent? odd.
I use it to dry my socks.
@@trubass75 definitely need it to fit the folded tent back into the bag
Making s'mores of course., no fire needed.
I got an idea for you… What if you took all your firewood and ran it through the chipper to get it shredded into little pieces, then compressed all those wood chips in a larger version of the smoothie maker? If it worked right, all the water would be extruded out through the smoothie tube, and the wood could get recompressed back into 1 solid piece. It’s worth a shot!
that's a great idea
That's just chipboard cubes without the glue, right? I wonder what it would be like as a material in general. Would also love to see pine or something else with lots of resin!
@@hetistijmen that’s actually a fairly common form of fuel for wood stoves. They are called biomass briquettes or wood briquettes. You take either pure sawdust/wood chip or a mixture of sawdust/ ground cardboard and soak it in a big container of water for a day or two Until fully saturated, then put the mix into pvc mounds with drain holes at the bottom, and press out most liquid with a bottle jack until you are left with compressed bricks. They will be dry enough to burn in a week or two but require a lot of work compared to jut using firewood.
I think that's how they make fuel pellets for pellet stoves.
@@ItsMeHunterBeeAyeBeeBee you do not need to soak them with water. If the pressure is high enough, the lignin binds the cellulose just fine. That is how wood pellets are made, no extra water, just pressure.
This is one of your more useful scientific experiments. Other than that I liked the Finnish wrench hammer. We don't have that here.
It's called a universal thumb smasher. (Look up AvE's videos. He calls it something a little more succinct, but I prefer to keep comments a little more kid friendly.)
Looked like a classic BAH & CO wrench, invented by "& CO", sold by BAH.
@@IceBergGeo You’re a man of culture, I see. The famous Thumb-Detecting Nut *BEEP*er... what a great invention it is.
Hitting it with a big adjustable wrench was the highlight for me. You should do a spinoff channel where you just hit random things with a massive adjustable spanner.
seeing a crescent wrench hammer made me smile. also that crushed wood would make excellent fire starter kindling after sitting for a day so much new surface area.
It’s amazing people will use an adjustable hammer for anything.
Every tool is a hammer. Engineers literally have to design tools for that purpose. Cordless drills for example are always used to tap something in place if its a little off.
Who amongst us hasn't used a crescent wrench as a hammer??
My wife's head
Water comes out but, also the wood comes out.
Captain Obvious.
That was my favorite comment in a while lmao
Even better that it is a quote lil
If you have a fire going, a good practice is to keep wet wood near the fire to dry it on the outside so it won't be completely useless. Stupid amounts of pressure also seems to work, looks more fun too
Maybe you could assemble something like a lemon juicer like bartenders use but with your press being the top of the squeeze. Just an idea. Thank you for another entertaining video!
I am a bartender, and use those juicers, but even the force I create with my hand can be enough to push out some of the pulp and even fruit itself. This is along the right idea, though. It doesn't really explode out of the device so I suppose it can still be weighed more properly.
Burn it first
The press did good but he used to much pressure.
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Haven't finished watching yet, but it would be neat to see how this actually burns after water extraction.
Yes and a taste test of the water would have been nice too...
If it taste good he could start a business of freshly pressed wood juice!
@@Reth_Hard new advertising slogan for maple syrup 😂
I BET IT BURNS LIKE WOOD
The flaw here is the wood is sitting in the water that comes out so when you release the pressure a lot of the water gets sucked back in, it needs something like the second unit but with holes to allow the water to drain away from the wood.
Need the aVe wrench hammer
I believe he acknowledged that point
I was thinking exactly the same - a lot of water comes out, but once the pressure is let off, the wood sucks it back up like a sponge. It could be solved quite easy by wipe off the water that comes out whiles the wood is still under pressure (and once the pressure is released, there is no water to suck back up). For the press tool, the holes should also be at the bottom and not the top (as he also said).
i was thinking same, but the wood pulp might come out of there as you press it
He says _exactly_ this in the video...
This is really cool! Always something interesting here.
This was fascinating! Thank you for sharing it!!
Microwave your wood. Dries to desert levels quickly. If you dry in stages, much more effective. Heat until you see steam or bubbles, stop and let cool, repeat as many times as necessary until dried to need.
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that also works if your phone gets wet.
@@brocksamson3282 let me know how all of those chips, wires and circuits do in a microwave. Post a video!
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I want to see that tried! just put pieces in one after another, one gets too hot take it out and put in another, keep going from piece to piece and starting over from the first piece for the second stage.
Yeah! definitely try and come up with a tool that can hold the process upside down, so the water runs out of it! Very interesting concept.
How about now?! Ya now it fits. ( proceeds to use 15” thumb wrench as a hammer)
Try smaller holes connected to a pump to draw the water out, I use my manual 12 ton hydraulic pipe bender to split logs & pallet blocks after a few medications.
Great video & Keep up the great work !
I parsed that first as "I use my 12 ton hydraulic [press] to crush my medication (read: pills)". 🤪
"Here we go, and let's hope that it doesn't explode" is like Lauri's whole thing
Great juicer, so-so stand-in kiln, fantastic kindling maker!
Maybe you could make a tool like the one you used, except with the holes being lower near the bottom. You could also weld some steel mesh over the holes to keep the wood in so that only water would come out.
Big fan of this test, and I'd like to see you perfect it.
This channel makes laugh. Love it!
Can you measure which one has more energy, fresh or crushed one?
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The wood is coming everywhere 🤣
A lot of people don't know, when you get a hot bed of coals going, you can put fresh, wet wood on, it will burn fine. Been doing it for decades. Some people think wet wood won't burn, I guess the ones who have never heard of a forest fire.
It will build up more creosote and increase your risk for a flue or chimney fire.
@@SephBane Probably so, I just burn outside, open fire pit. If I burned through a chimney, I woukd clean it on a regular basis.
@@treeguyable Ya, open pit is fine if you don't mind a little extra smoke.
Cottonwood (certain species of the poplar genus Populus) is really rich in water when freshly cut and might make quite a show if crushed.
Nice experiment 👌🏽
A tool design would be like that bowl but with tiny holes for water to escape, also a lock with a door to open the bowl, also another mechanism that holds the bowl over the press so no loss of wood escapes
I'd love to see a part 2 on this, i want to see instant use wood pucks :P
Awesome! Now I know that I can dry some firewood for my bath using hydraulic press staying around somewhere in my basement!
Fun stuff! But as I expected, the problem is the wood get crushed long before most of the water comes out, haha (could still be interesting with a better tool though). I think the quickest way is to put the wood inside a microwave oven (that will boil out the water quickly without burning the wood) or build some larger microwave drier, haha (drying time would be reduced to like a few ours).
Another (easier and safer) way, for drying large amounts of fire wood is probably to build some kind of drying oven or maybe just use a sauna (with some ventilation added to pull out the water vapor). That could still reduce the drying time from like 1-2 years (in open air) down to like a few days or weeks (depending on the temperature, amount that's going to be dried and how tightly packed it is).
Been watching since paper 7 times, this episode is awesome. I even played the game for a bit
Just the other day I was using the splitting maul when I thought, "What would happen if I used the other end?" Didn't go well. Still recovering.
Apparently leaving freshly cut logs out in the rain for a bit is best, the rain washes the sap out and then the water dries quicker than the sap
The good ol adjustable hammer @4:46
Water come out but the wood comes out...🤣🤣
I can't believe how much water came from the wood
Sometime I hope you will do a tour of the press and show the tools and arbor plates etc that you have.
Also, maybe you’re already aware but there are large commercial briquette machines that use high pressure to turn wood waste into useful firewood. So the basic idea is not crazy, just your application is less efficient.
4:48 the right tool for the job is the one that's closest to you.
Interesting experiment
Now this is relevant content!!
The way you showed the correct use of a shifter spanner it almost makes me think that you were a boiler maker in a past life.
"yeah... now it fits" *smacks with wrench*
That morning wood sure was happy to be squeezed.
All those woods got very excited.
I think a bowl or box like the one you have but holes on the bottom edges like air holes for glass lanterns it would have to be strong though your removing material from the container that holds the object and the all the outward pressure from escaping.
A press can push out free water and the final amount that needs to be removed is called bound water.
Sometimes you can splash a bit of water at yourself when cutting and using an axe on naturally saturated trees.
US viewer here. I'd just like to say, we understand metric units and use them all the time. You don't have to translate into imperial units.
They harvest the water from Birch trees to drink in Latvia, it's pretty cool stuff.
have you ever tried difference of dry and wet wood wich are stronger?
Do you have a pressure pot or vacuum chamber? What would happen to wet wood under either of those conditions?
Thanks for sharing 👍😀
you can start half dry logs, if you mix them with tightly rolled newspaper and blow the flame with a hair dryer... careful not to make a mess blowing ashes... long time subscriber so I know you can get more juice out of the logs too!
Uff da! You put so much pressure on that wood I'm surprised it did not burst into flames
I would love to see you try to dry the wood in a vacuum chamber. It should suck a lot of water out and leave it in a puddle underneath.
The best and easy way to quick dry wood is to pile up the wet wood next to the furnace. The catch is that you need dry wood to fire up the furnace to dry the wet wood..
Muito interessante este experimento, ver a porcentagem de água de uma madeira
E como cada tipo de madeira e suas fibras se comportam em relação a pressão
"here we have freshly cut wood"
my brain: never heard about the freshlikat tree
I can drain my beer cans real easy.
Cut shallow grooves in one end of tube, that end goes down on table, liquids will drain through grooves.
"now it fits"
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I think if you used your press to fracture your green wood it may season faster. Worth a try if good dry timber is hard to come by where you are.
One option that might actually work is to use a vacuum to draw the water out of the wood. A hydraulic press can act in reverse to pull 150T. If the container itself doesn't collapse, that should pull fluids out of the wood just like a vacuum chamber with a rotary pump of some kind.
Hey, is this juice good to drink?)
The science we didn't know we need, but we do.
an oven is a great way to dry some logs, though i use my propane grill if i need logs for my smoker and I ran out, put them in the propane gril for 12 hours, they are hot and dry, usually under 10% and burn nice without popping
With pressure you can squeeze out only the "free" water in the cells but not the H2O that's incorporated in the cell walls - regardless of the force applied. For that you'd need either high temperature, a vacuum or a dry environment...
I want to see more of this. I want to see you try and burn it after making it with a modified tool
3:26 *Woohoo, Squidward on a chair!!*
I lost it at "Okayyy, water comes out but...also the wood comes out" 😄
At least it's a quick way to make kindling.
I have a similar crescent hammer
This guy is the best
Water is trapped in wood in two ways. The first is the vertical “straws” the tree uses to move water from the roots to the canopy. The second is water trapped in the individual cells of the wood. Obviously a tiny amount in each cell but there are so many in even a small piece of wood that it adds up. The straws drain quickly, sometimes water will drip from a tree when it’s cut. That water is not coming from the cells, it’s draining from the straws. The cells take a long time to dry and it would destroy the wood to rupture each cell. Desiccation in a kiln is really the only way to still have wood when you are finished. If a pulp like material is ok for your purpose the it’s possible to shred and squeeze it but it may still require heat and air to get the last bit of water out.
WOW! I did not expect that at all! It was a veritable torrent of liquid!
Wonder if keeping the wood at a constant pressure would allow more water to leak out, (albeit quite slowly)? Then again, you could press and then dry in an electric oven.
Wanted to see something like same principle with cylinder but with something simple like aluminium cans.. cylinder the same diameter.. how many cans can be pressed in the same size of can...
wood uh... got a little excited.
Bash bash bash… now it fits 😂😂
"the water comes out... the wood also comes out" bAAHAHAHAHA!
Thats a good hammer! It would be interesting to see how your press goes against a bock of Australian Iron Bark!
... "the wood starts to escape"
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Will! You are supposed to use it to drive in the tent stakes! 😂⛺
Attach the wood bowl to the press and set the wood to the bench with the piston. That way the water gets out and does not absorb itself back to the wood but it flows to the ground. So, same practice but the other way :)
This would be great for making whiskey essence you should try it.
I think extracting water from logs is going to be hard no matter what you try. I think if you mulch the wood that you have and then try to press it, you'll get much better results.
im really looking forward to "Can you make Cannabis Rosin with Hydraulic Press" video, if ever legal in Finland.
Tää oli mielenkiintonen :D ! En kyllä nää mitään energian käytön kannalta edullisempaa tapaa muuta ku vaan kirveellä palasiks ja antaa kuivua normisti ilmassa :D
The water always got to escape at the bottom side. The floor of the cylinder needs some perforations leading to a small canal and the pressure plate needs to be solid.
"Let's hope that it doesn't explode."
Oops, wrong channel.
Tool idea: a pair of parallel rollers below the head. Set things on top, then force them through the gap. Might solve the catastrophic wood failure issue by spreading the chaos out.
It may be difficult to quickly adjust the gap; I imagine you'd need pretty hefty steel components to accomplish it. Maybe static shafts with interchangeable rollers of varying outer diameters?
You basically just re-invented the laundry mangle for wet wood.
I need that for winter 💀
Experimenting is always fun.😃
Ah yes an adjustable hammer
4:49 magic trick how to make footprints with wrench
"Let's hope that it doesn't explode"
Viewers: *hopes that it does*
Finnish instant hammer 🔨 just add "PERKELE" 😆
The same cylinder, drill small holes, 3/32 all around the bottom edge? Maybe chamfer the edge for a drilling surface, then when pressing, it drains the water out.
Birch? Pretty bark.