Which is the Strongest Tree? Hydraulic Press Test!
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2020
- Which is the strongest tree of Finnish forest? We are going to use our 150 ton hydraulic press and 150 ton force sensor to find out!
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Do not try this at home!! or at any where else!!
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If this does well we can try to find more different trees with same dimensions and do part 2 to get more trees tested. I don't have super varied tree selection on our own property but I think I can arrange couple trees if necessary from somewhere :D And here is link to my wife's channel czcams.com/users/AnniVuohensiltavideos
Try morning wood 😂
Hi Lauri
Not sure how to get that in Europe, but doing Brazilian Ironwood would be very interesting. For what I know, it's called iron wood because when there was no metal for tools, people used this wood instead
@@mohsanhussain478 Sensor would break
You should try to find someone with wood lathe to true the ends and make exact diameter. Also find some different hardwoods.
If you could some how get your hands on Australian Bull oak. I think your workshop may fall apart or blowup trying to crush that wood. See Janka hardness values on wikipedia
Do it again in one year with well-dried trees and compare the results with the fresh cut ones please!
Yes!
Good suggestion!
Excellent suggestion!
Bro. Great idea
I have still parts left from these same trees so I am going to wait until they are dry and come back with the results
Alternative title: How to juice a tree for beginners.
Step one: Buy premium Finnish version of Juicero... :P
Step two: vat the faaaaaak.
TheMartipar, You win the internet.
Though it was kinda sappy. OK, I'll see myself out...
impressive water container opener opened..
Euell Gibbons would be so proud!
Me: why did the tree start to sweat?
CZcams: it couldn’t handle the pressure.
“Pine and I think this is the tree where pineapples grow in warmer countries.” 🙃 😂😅🤣🙃
I heard that too
The Finnish are experts on fru-it
Put an americans head in there. Let's see if our heads are as hard as you Europeans say 😂
That was damn epic 🤣🤣
it was ajoke... A dry one tho xD
At Oregon State University in ~1978-79, I took a Materials Science class as part of my Engineering Physic degree. They had a giant, 30+ feet press to test wooden Telephone poles for compression strength. It was impressive. Even behind protective glass in a room it was an incredibly loud explosive sound when they failed. We lucky students got to clean up most of the large debris afterwards.
Why they put telephones so giant poles?
@@jannejohansson3383 gotta keep the wires up high so they’re less likely to be damaged
The trees sure started sweating when put in the press.
A growing tree is roughly 50% water. Once you cut it down and dry the wood for use (like furniture making etc), it's down to 5-7% moisture
Instant firewood, no need to wait for it to dry.
Chris Freemesser 5-7%?
20% is considered dry wood.
*When put under the pressure
that's how you know they were guilty
Someone from Canada should send you a maple tree log, so you can press out the maple syrup with the hydraulic press.
There are plenty of maple trees in Finland.
I'm from Canada and the same though went through my mind. I would also like to see them turn the logs sideways and press them to see how much tree juice comes out of each one. Fun fact, you can also make syrup out of birch sap. slightly different taste from maple though.
And some Douglas Fir
yea, they produce quite a bit in Alaska birch syrup that is.
Its not syrup, its sap. And its like water, not even close to the texture or flavor of syrup. But you can use it for all kinds of stuff like soda and candy
Me at 3 am: "-- , --"
CZcams recommendation: " what is the strongest tree"
Me: " yea WHAT is the strongest tree?"
...it is nearly 4....
🤣 lo mismo aquí solo que es mas temprano
Australian Ironwood
@@frogz no
me at 4 am :D
Now we know why shipyards use timber blocks to hold up ships to this day.
To punish trees for killing Jesus.
@@longlivegarybusey6409 I was going to say that!
Wood is great for this purpose because it doesn't make scratches or dents in metal.
@@normhiscock352 that same old story?
@@Yora21 except when a tree falls on your vehicle
*"The wood is slightly curved"*
Don't worry, that's totally normal :D
Haha. I see what you did there. ✓
I know what you mean 😏
@Queena Yang Don't worry, it's a joke only guys will understand.
@Queena Yang Morning wood ;)
werd wood but ok
Years ago I worked briefly in a materials testing lab for the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers. We had a press to calculate the strength of concrete by breaking standard size samples prepared just for the machine. One day we put in a piece of dry red oak, 12" long and it failed by folding over the wood grain, but the failure was about 6,200 PSI, or about 50,000 pounds, it was a rough 2" x 4" board. Knowing the strength per unit area allows for a more uniform comparison between samples.
A very useful and interesting video =) This shows exactly why strength is determined by hardness and toughness, and that the best materials for building are not the hardest. The pine woods were most flexible, and after massive deformation they flexed back to nearly their original shape. That makes it excellent for wooden support structures. It was also interesting to see how the willow remained hard (vertically) even after being out of shape. I'm preparing to use a lot of willow in a construction (I have a lot of willow on my land, no pines) and this video has taught me a couple of things that I will have to keep in mind. Thanks!!
"pine, where the pineapple grows in the warmer climate" XD
Fun fact: it's impossible for trees to grow higher than 200 metres, because the capillary action is only able to pull the water up to 200 metres.
Fun fact: in space, no one can hear you scream.
"My old Christmas tree looks very nice, but it is extremely dangerous and may attack at anytime, so we must deal with it."
I'm from Kansas and we have a tree here known as Osage Orange. Many people refer to it as a "hedge tree." Its wood is known for its incredible density and its propensity to break tempered glass in fireplace inserts. I'd really like to see you test a log from one of these trees as I'm curious as to how it would stack up to its Finnish counterparts.
Missourian here. Osage orange is also used extensively in making bows because it's strong and bends a long way before breaking.
Spikey, heavy, poisonous sap. I hate these trees 😂
Mmmmm fresh squeezed tree juice, just like the old days.
Not from concentrate.
The water from trees is usually full of sugar as well!
Not sure if you're joking, but it's actually a thing, you can tap birch trees, and even ferment it if you like.
Like Mama used to make.
And, for the bravest, added pulp too!
Spruce = Leak
Goat willow = Craaack
Pine = Goosh
Birch = Smoosh
Alder = Croosh
Seeing the sap/resin drop out was SUPER satisfying. I would like to see more trees...please.
I would love to see this test performed with dry wood. And I would warrant a bet that it's almost double the strength.
may i suggest to add a table with all the results in the end of the videos?
great stuff btw
My same thoughts!
Should they build the table from the same wood? .... Oh, you meant... Yeah, never mind.
“I was too afraid to remember” lol this is why the HPC is one of the all time greatest on yt. Great vid as always!
I was too afraid to remember what my wife told me to do.
Great video! One improvement is that you could measure the stress in pounds per square inch (psi) or the equivalent International System unit to compare the wood of different sizes. Take the pounds applied by the press and divide that by the cross sectional area of each log (pie*r^2) to get the stress (r= log radius in inches). Then the force exerted on logs of different sizes can be accounted for in the wood comparison.
As a Swede my bet and my heart were with the birch tree. Now I'll build my own birch sky scraper!
People should send you logs of local wood types from around the world. I'm sure it will be pricey but there's got to be someone who would do it. There's a scale for wood hardness called the Janka scale, look it up, you can see some things like Brazilian cherry, mahogany, maple and pecan are near the top.
Also you can sell the extracted sap as "freshly squeezed tree juice"
If I have the money I would send a piece of quebracho colorado (Schinopsis balansae) the second o third hardest wood in the world. I'll love to see how it goes in the press.
BTW, "quebracho" means "axe breaker" :-)
Hard to get through customs due to the risk of transmitting bugs or disease.
It’s actually not easy to transport wood internationally. Pallets that go international have to be heat treated to make sure anything inside is dead, there can be bad ecological results if not
Mahogany!
Not too surprised, wood is very strong. Great testing video!
Go away buddy- everyone knows you’re just advertising your channel by commenting
@@crypastesomemore8348 Another degenerate, sadly many exist. I've been watching his videos for YEARS. Get lost.
Lol. Here you are again on a channel I watch! Love it.
That's why wood is one of the reliable materials for construction
Especially in the morning.
Oak Trees be like: "You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers"
Hold my beer...
Hickory Trees: “Am I a joke to you?”
I would love to see a selection of fully cured hardwoods like Oak, Purpleheart, etc.
Don't waste purpleheart. It would become fingerboard of atleast 10 guitars :)
I like how you put the Finnish word there, too. You should do that more often! It's cool to hear both
*edit because I know how to spell "Finnish" but somehow didn't catch my typo before, my apologies!
You should check your spelling after you finnish typing.
@@jonathanfeller Very nice 👌😅
Your Willow definitely had some rot inside of it! It was very surprisingly strong. You will have to do this again with a better slice of willow. Thank you! This was very fun for me to watch as an arborist living in Canada. I believe my climate here is pretty similar to yours. We have the same kind of trees, for example.
I've never seen a willow here in Newfoundland (outside of a city park). Also alder are just bushes here, I don't think I've ever come across one bigger that about 10cm diameter.
Yeah Canada is a pretty big country I would not suggest you have the same timber as the west or other regions. Where I live we have all of the trees here, yes Alder don't get real big where I'm from either.
I love your guys channel! I was sad today, but I watched a few of your videos and seeing you and Aanya again made me happy! Hope you two are doing well! Big fan, from Canada.
It was great to see the trees getting back in shape after releasing the pressure😁
"Yield" strengths in psi for our American engineers who just have to know:
Spruce 1765
Goat willow 3530
Pine 2647
Birch 4005
Alder 2104
Probably some strength lost due to non-square-cut ends and other eccentricities and P-delta effects.
Would the fact that all these woods were green instaed of dried have made a difference?
@@drunkenroundtable i would say so. Splitting green wood is waaay tougher than dry w
@@drunkenroundtable Yes, spruce stays strong and is used to build houses that last 50+ years but birch will be extremely weak within a few years time, thats why birch can only be used for firewood.
@@daftnord4957 Goat willor can be split fresh just by touching it with an axe, almost. Its hard to break, the fibers are straight, strong and flexible but the bond between fibers is weak.
@@daftnord4957 NO. Dry wood is harder.
Love all your content it's always truly fantastic
Moi. Another great video. We are spoiled by your consistently great videos. Keep them coming. As always love the Rally English. Moi Moi
I was impressed with the amount of moisture that came out. Have you tried kiln dried dimensional lumber or engineered wood?
Imagine an alternate world where the trees are crushing different humans in presses and seeing which type is strongest 😂
Obviously the oldest ones. They’re the most hard headed
This is a theory that has gone through many a lumberjack's mind at night.
That world is Soviet Russia.
The hardest ones would be the ones with the most muscle!
FunGUI, I like the way you think. Please consider becoming an author or script writer.
So so cool 😎
Watching this right now in western Washington state next to my woodstove. Red alder is my favorite local firewood. It grows everywhere here and once it dries out it makes a decently hot fire with little smoke. It also splits easy, doesn't gum up your tools with pitch, and doesn't build up creosote in your chimney.
Thank you for showing the Finnish names as well, I feel super-educated now. ^_^
So now I know what Saku Koivu means Saku's family name was birch 😁😁😁
Yeah, just put the same comment before I've read yours. :-D
How many Saku can you stack on top of each other before the bottom crumbles?
Fun fact, Saku Koivu used to make xylitol ads (for dental care) since xylitol is birch sugar and he called it his relative. XD
HaynieDahlia Haha, good to know :)
The title of this video should have been, "How To Milk Trees!? Which Tree Has The Best Yield!"
Just chillin in Florida with the fam watching your videos! I am only watching because I love your accent!!! Although..watching things smoosh is always fun!!! 😁👍 Has anyone said your accent reminds them of anyone else? We can't pin point it. Thank you for the entertainment and secretly teaching us stuff!!!
No idea why this is satisfying to watch, but it is!
Oh man, now I want to see Southern Live Oak. Those trees are stupid dense.
Yeah even an oak would be nice. Quebracho too
hickory is tough wood.
Live oak is super dense. It's a slow growing thorny "weed" but the wood is amazing if you can get it.
Would be cool if we could get samples of all kinds of wood together for testing. Something like ebony would be damn interesting.
And for a much more difficult one to pull off, different ages of trees. Like fresh oak, dried oak, and some hundreds of years old oak from an old door or something... =)
I'd like to see hickory a non endangered ash red oak white oak black walnut beech and cherry
"I was too scared too remember." Classic haha
Thanks for keeping freedom units in the subtitles.
Imagine breaking into their house and in the dark you hear them say *"Throw em in the Hydraulic Press"*
*"in this video we will see how much weight a burgular can take before dying"*
well we have wood being used as "cushions" for massive ships and submarines when they are placed in a dry dock and damn those things are super strong.
Not-so-fun fact: the Titanic was unlucky even before it left the shipyard. When they launched it, they knocked out the wooden supports so it would slide down the ramp. One of the supports flew out and hit and killed a shipyard worker.
It's crazy how strong wood is, if you think about it
i mean, trees are pretty damn heavy. wood/trees need to be strong to be able to support all that weight
Wood can support up to 100tons without exploding not standing but on it side
It's crazy how strong trees are even if you don't think about it
Whats crazy is that bamboo is stronger than steel, per weight.
I've been looking for a proper juicer for years. Finally!
Thank you so much for doing this video.
Forever tackling the most burning questions of our generation! 🤔🧐😝
Somebody has to find all the these answers :D
Just one drop of the mead of Suttungr.
Thank you for putting in Pounds for us people who don’t use Kilograms! Also with the goat willow you gave the Finnish name. Is it bad I jsut realized you guys are Finnish?
Nah. Same here. I just always assumed they are from Russia (or somewhere close by). And then I read the description today. Go Finland!
At least you definitely don't watch Anni's channel as she has Finnish Friday videos occasionally. 😄
They've kept their nationality a secret for a long time!
This vid confirms the startling strength of the bold skeletons of old barns (and such). Fantastic vid
Wood Weight Force
Spruce (1785g) - 11820kg
Alder (1200g) - 14000kg
Pine (2100g) - 17900kg
Willow (1815g) - 23600kg
Birch (2190g) - 26860kg
Sir, I think your trees are leaking.
I really enjoyed this video, interesting to watch! I’d love to see more „back-to-the-basics“ videos, where you just crush different stuff really hard. The Pancake-inator 5 000 000!
This was definitely on the list of things that I didn’t know I needed to know
ok
That was awesome - kiitos!
"The tree where _pine_ _ables_ grow" 😂
That was insane to watch. You know wood is super strong, since it's used to hold up buildings, but very cool to watch different wood types to see how much they can stand.
This is where trees goes to cry... when meeting "Tree Juicer 5M"
HEY! It's been a year now, do you still have these trunks to test their dry capacities? It would be really cool to see what effects drying has on the compression.
30s econds into the presentation, made so well i can allready tell im gona like this video
Although I love the way you do everything, I have an idea that might make the tree crush comparison more 'fair'. Since tree grow naturally and are affected by environmental conditions, they can develop differences and anomalies while growing. The longer the piece of wood, the more likely differences (such as limbs growing out the side, damage from insects, or damage from environmental factors) in the wood will exist. I would suggest using shorter pieces of wood (perhaps 10 cm each), so each piece will be closer in quality and you can probably crush them further, since they will be less likely to fly out of the press.
Thank you for all of your videos including Beyond the Press and Anni's channel. They are all great.
It started to squeeze the water out of it. Wow!
I can confidently say this is the only CZcams channel that makes me want to buy a hydraulic press.
Interesting that Sitka Spruce, clear grained, is used for aircraft wing spars. Having said that, not much usage or the wood in compression. Most stresses would be bending or shear. Also a Jury Strut which is used to prevent premature bending, certain improves the compression performance especially in longer and thinner structures. Thank you this was quite enjoyable. One other note is that on sailboat mast, the rigging must be greater than 15° or the compression loads from the rigging will damage the mass. This is why sailboats have out Riggers on the mast to insure the rigging is greater than 15 degrees.
Fantastic video! greetings from Norway :D
Thanks!
You didn't have time to watch it by the time you posted this.
@@popcorns6472 Yeah i realized that now, i've watched the video now :)
@Timo I agree!
I wanted to taste some of that fresh-squeezed tree-water! 💦
Birch water is very good !
love your channel btw 👍👌
i love that your wife shares your passion for hydraulic presses lol,respect from Scotland
Holy shit, willow was strong.
Usually it's shit wood, so I was surprised there.
It split very readily. But the Cambium was a lot harder than the pine and spruce
squash a maple and make sure Anni’s pancakes are ready!
This is one of the best videos :) we don`t really realize how much water there is in a log :)
Wow the different elasticity of the wood was really interesting too.
Man if i could id send yall some mesquite an ironwood from down in Arizona
"Not that strong.. I'm gonna say it'll give at 15 tons of pressure"
On an average day at a Finnish office, you feel 80 tons of pressure :D
Your workshop must smell AMAZING after this video. With all the water being squeezed outta the trees. haha
I was too scared to remember ! superb
I'd like to see bamboo!
If u could get some southern live oak from Georgia....
*To be clear, Georgia, USA!*
On this week's edition of
'Stuff I can use instead of jack stands'...
😄
That was really interesting thanks
Really makes you think of all the fresh water trapped in forests.
fun fact: pineapples grow on the ground, and not in pine trees
Lies. It's called a pineapple, so they are harvested from pines. The Finnish summer is just so short that the pines over here can't grow the fruits. Such a pity. I'm sure in southern Poland they already get plenty of small pineapples from pine forests.
Pineapples come from a shrub not a tree.
@@redorange I don't know how it's in your parts, but over here pines are mighty trees. They can grow taller than 40m. Hardly a shrub.
@@herrakaarme I guess you have never had pineapple, it's a fuit that grows on a small shrub, or bush. It does not grow on a tree.
@@ducewags Yeah, since our summers are too short for our pines to produce them, I haven't. However, I've had plenty of cloudberries! You just need to pick an especially cloudy day, hire an airplane pilot, and have them drop you on a cloud. Usually it's more economic to gather a big bunch of people so that per person the airplane cost is less. Personally I've found cumulonimbus is the best for the berries, although the downside is the extremely challenging vertical dimension of the cloud.
These videos help me with my anxiety.
Excellent!
I'd like to see some live oak tested. Whenever a live oak gets cut down in my area, people don't even save it for firewood because it is impossible to split, even with a hydraulic log splitter.
must not live in Texas cause that is burned for firewood all the time. Though it's mostly just for campfires.
@@Jaqen-HGhar I mean it does get burnt if it's just laying there and you don't really need to split it, but if you heat your house with firewood, it's probably not worth the time to fool with it. You could easily find someone cutting down a different kind of oak or hickory that's going to be much easier to process.
Yup, during the cival war they used white oak as armor on boats they would make 4incj thick slabs and they would bounce cannon balls off them all day
I was just thinking that. Oak is one of the strongest, heaviest trees in North America, maybe even the world.
Oak in general are the one of the strongest trees, they grow slow and they live long, the logs provide a lot of heat when burned, they are really heavy, compared to others.
Of course you can split them, but its hard... Oak logs or wood in general are more expensive and I am not sure if its worth to use them as logs for heating, but they burn longer. We use them mainly for barbecue in an open fire stool, because the oak logs are a clean wood, no residue or resin in the logs and when they burn they provide a lot of embers so we grill the meat over them.
Of course the best use is probably for planks or structural carcass of a house, because planks or rafters are very strong, although heavy...
Just here, juicing the backyard trees
I've just designed and built a house in the UK using 89x38mm (ex 4x2" ) CLS, Canadian Lumber Standard, kiln dried studs in the panels. Very similar to the USA method. It would be interesting to see how they compare. All the house weight is on these, including the very heavy tiled roof, as the brick outer skin is more weatherproofing and decoration, not structural.
Always fascinating
This is so unnecessary to know yet very interesting
"I think this is the tree where 🍍 *pineapples* 🍍 grow in warmer countries"
Biology 💯
Cool concept, definitely need dried trees at the same moisture levels to get more accurate results
The clay figure smashing never gets old lol
My friend said that when she dies she wants to donate her body to you to crush
Ima act like I didn’t just read that..
SnapCrackleJeff same
@@trinitymodz7663
same
2.3 tons
Wtf ahahhaha
What!?! No pineapples from your Pine trees? That's not right. All of your Pine trees must be broken.😜
The fact that they pressed water out of those trees will forever amaze me
Haha sounds so much like the baddy in Minions! Love this channel!