New York’s Proposal for a Tunnel to Long Island
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- New York is considering constructing either a bridge or tunnel across the Long Island Sound, connecting mainland New York to Long Island. The proposal has existed since 1938 and was seriously pursued throughout the 1960’s and 1970’s. A connection would have massive benefits. It would decrease congestion, provide jobs, widen regional markets and increase employment opportunities. The proposal was explored by current governor Andrew Cuomo, but was eventually cancelled.
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Anyone from Long Island will tell you that this is the "Land of No". Anytime someone tries to get any major project built, millions of people come out against the plan. I'm old enough to remember when they tried to move the Jets to a stadium to be built out near Yaphank. Instead, we lost the team to NJ. No NFL team in New York! Or when Charles Wang tried to keep the Islanders in Uniondale. That poor guy spent millions and millions to try to make the people of Nassau happy, but nothing was ever good enough. Or how about when they wanted to expand MacArthur airport runways to handle international flights? That would have been convenient. But NO! People who lived around the airport complained about the potential noise. They bought a house next to an airport at a discount, and they complain about jet noise. This bridge/tunnel idea will NEVER get passed!
A stadium in Yaphank wuld be a terrible idea tho. If they do move them I'd wish for it to be in place of all the chop shops at Willets point.
@@brenislanders If people can drive to Jersey, they could take a drive on the LIE out to exit 68. Much more direct and pleasant, and at least it's in the state of New York.
@@genebigs1749 meh, the meadowlands are 10 mins from Manhattan, yaphank well over an hour. agree with you on the rest though.
best place for a stadium now would be pilgrim state grounds
@@joemoschetta1541 no it wouldn't. do you not realize that stadiums have to be close to population centers to actually draw fans? shea stadium was right in queens. metlife is 10 minutes from Manhattan. having a stadium in the middle of long island makes no sense for the team and the people living there. and I say this as someone who would have much shorter commute times to games if it was where you say.
I’m from Long Island, we need this so badly. I travel upstate to go to school and having to go through NYC traffic is just awful. The likelihood of this ever happening will probably remain close to zero because of resistance from the rich communities on the north shore as well as how expensive the tunnel option is.
Fight for it. You do need it. Fight
Hahaha. It takes 3hrs drive to travel from Stony Brook to Yale (or 1hr 45 min from Ship). Having a tunnel or bridge in between would hardly take you 20-25 minutes😅
Was about to make this exact comment. Rich people on the "gold coast" would never let this happen due to the increased traffic around their neighborhoods, however the rest of Long Island and their home prices will suffer when people realize its not worth dealing with 4 hours of NYC traffic just to get to the rest of America. People like my father made us suffer with hours of traffic just to go quading or skiing and its nowhere near worth it.
=SORRY TO DISAPPOINT BUT SEEMS TO BE YOU'RE BEEN HELD HOSTAGE BY "AUTHORITIES AMONG U.S.'S WORLD OF AUTHORITIES"
.....SO YOU GOT THIS RIGHT,THAT'LL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE OF RESISTANCE OF RICHES...SO MOVE OUT FROM THERE.......EVEN BRIDGE WOULD COST NOTHING THOSE RICHES WILL JUST BAN THE PROJECT,BECAUSE OF THEY GOT CONNECTIONS.....
@@almiranteandres7550 =IF HE'LL DO,HE'LL FIND HIMSELF QUICKLY IN JAIL BECAUSE OF THAT'S RESORT OF SORT OF LIKE HIGHER AUTHORITIES OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY......AM I RIGHT?...AND THOSE ARE NOW IN CRUSADE AGAINST ALL NON DEMOCRATS
.....ALSO I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE AGAINST TRUMP'S PROJECTS OF SCHOOL TO BE CHOSEN FREELY....
Am I the only one that feels at home in this comments section knowing we're all from Long Island
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i'm from Long Island but glad that i'm gone from NY.
I live in the bronx right at the end of the mainland usa, cppse enough.
I live on Long Island to
Also a Long Islander. I love this idea but I doubt that it would happen.
They can’t even fix pot holes, but they want to build a tunnel to Long Island 🤣
Well said i live on Long Island extremely close to Oyster bay...Our roads are trash lol
Lol
Exactly!! Thank god someone else See's how inefficient government is! Thank you!
The roads all over the island r trash fuhhhh
Long Island is boring only good for pandemics
The average person would be dead before anything like this ever got built.
There is a tunnel between Detroit and Ontario. It was built during the depression. Toute suite.
Seriously where I live on Long Island they’ve been repairing the same overpass for three years now and they’ve barely even started
I was just about to say this. A tunnel like this would take decades to build with the amount of corruption and incompetency there is in NYC.
@Philip Gannello That was 1930. Nowadays, it would take 18 months just to do the environmental report lol.
@@NorthPoleSun And at the same time China is considering building a 104 km (64 mils) long tunnel
As much as I would love this it will never happen, both shores of CT and LI sit on mansions and upper class land they won’t budge
They want exclusivity not easy access
Thats what i thought
Eminent domain man
Absolutely correct. The North shore of LI is the gold coast. If it were middle to lower class it would of been done already because who really cares for those people.
@@oilman1758 I mean I live there it’s not *THAT* rich
I’m from Long Island and it’s really weird hearing someone talk about all these places I frequent like it’s some place he’s never been. Good video though all his facts were right especially about the traffic through the city
yeah, it’s weird hearing about li in a sort of “clinical” sense lmao
As a New Yorker I wonder what the toll would be? My guess is $35.00 but it doesn't matter because nothing ever gets built here anyway.
New York toll oh my God it's probably going to be a hundred bucks both ways at least it will be in the next few years the Verrazano is like nineteen eighteen bucks now
$40.00 round trip.
People in oysterbay will riot if they try to bring traffic to that town lol
They would probably hire people to riot
1000% and that is exactly why the Seaford/Oysterbay Expressway stops dead a Jericho Tpke ..
Stop your complaining. This is new york . You want more money? More building and more traffic more business
@@isaacd7619 I'm not complaining I'm just saying what they will do just like when they were building jakes 58 people went nuts lol
Facts
As a native Long Islander, this is much needed. Not only has traffic become a huge issue in the last 40 years, but isolation as well. Millions of people live on this Island and cannot leave without going through NYC. Living here has gotten absurdly expensive because there's already so so many people here stuck in their ways and passing any sort of development or infrastructure project is damn near impossible.
If changes aren't made, Long Island will never be able to grow or expand properly as a growing metropolitan area should, and continue to be oversaturated. The difficult living standards have already seeped into peoples way of life and its so sad. Younger people like myself are seeing the writing on the wall and leaving the area entirely.
My watch is 3hrs fast and I can't fix it. So I'm going to move to Long Island.
Port Jefferson Ferry bada bing bada boom
Bridge name: *"Long Island Long Bridge"*
Nah, Cuomo will name it after himself.
Needs to be done I’m from LongIsland Ny. Would be nice.
Long Long Island bridge
That I like. Catchy. But leave it up to Cuomo naming it after him like he changed the tappen zee bridge
@Griffin Wale long island bridge or L.I.B. is suficent enough
Missed that the reason Robert Moses' bridge failed was because he wanted to go through Long Island's "Gold Coast". Home of the richest people in NY and the mansion that inspired The Great Gatsby.
The citizens in opposition had the money and political clout to fight back. Where other Moses projects had bulldozed right through less prosperous neighborhoods.
You’ll also notice how there are huge highways cutting up Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx, but similar highway projects never got final approval in Manhattan because the wealthier residents had the money and political power to stop their neighborhoods being destroyed. Also Queens and the Bronx have noisy overhead subways while Manhattan has quiet underground subways. The wealthy always will win.
@@corbinvickers9993 Another example would be the Northern state parkway's "objector's bend".
i live in huntington and go to a private school in oyster bay and see the traffic but the rich people don’t care they’ll just boat to Connecticut i’m considered upper middle class and i’m all for it, it’s for the average person who has a job in the city and doesn’t want traffic or for someone who goes to school upstate and it sucks that the rich wanna destroy them
Funny cause if it weren't for him the gold coast probably wouldn't of existed
If Robert Moses couldn't do it no one can
When I see the budgets they handle in the United States to build infrastructure, it gives me the feeling that the beams are made of solid gold. In Europe, bridges and tunnels much longer than this have recently been built for five times less than that monstrous budget.
Politicians loves money
Its New York,,,, Prices are always inflated on everything!!!!!
Skilled labor costs.... unless you want cheap then you get a Swiss cheese tunnel
Paris is currently building four new lines of subway (124 miles of tunnels) for 50 bn dollars 😂 so yes it’s less expensive in Europe
A 100km tunnel from Finland to Estonia would cost only under 20bn compared with that 55bn
Rich people killed this idea. And will continue to do so.
How?
@@SekyiTV because the North shore area where the bridge will be built is filled with one of the largest mansion suburban sprawl in the United States. I doubt they'll want the highway and large congestion in their neighborhood
@@SofaSpy I live there and you are absolutely right as well as not wanting the traffic. traffic is already horrid over here not all of us live in mansions it’s dense many places
Or anyone over 30 with kids.
Wouldn't you love to bulldoze their homes to bring crime from Port Chester to the center of Long Island?
I'm from Long Island and I think the one problem is something he only barely mentioned which is the infrastructure on Long Island itself is already so packed and congested that any attempt to build a bridge would just make things worse so really we should fix the islands infrastructure with connecting to itself before worrying about adding more connections to it
thats not true. they would be building a new path. meaning they would not have to close any highways off to do it.
North shore of Nassau County is mostly upper crust. No bridge or tunnel will ever be built there.
This comment has to be pinned lol
Upper crust...you meant upper echelons...all that money the south shore sapped from us in education spending and still you talk with a plumber's asscrack articulate
Upper people with educations and pride in their homes, not wanting scum moving in and turning into Queens 2.0 full of shitty people with zero standards.
@@thomasmacgruber6701 we busted ass to get out of Queens. This is the dream achieved and they want to cut their commute 25 minutes to build 2000k temporary jobs funded by us here on the north shore to displace over 10k and drive the air and water quality into Sheepshead Bay. People who want to be successful that aren't taking shots at those who made it. Smdh, they also left out the part about the aquifers they'd destroy. Environmental unfriendly, period
Eddie Tide exactly! This will never happen, and that's a good thing, all these fools in the comments saying this would be good have literally zero understanding of how LI actually works...
Having lived in the area, from my point of view the best location for a bridge across Long Island Sound would be between Port Chester and Oyster Bay. This would allow traffic to leave Long Island where State highways 25A and 106 meet in Oyster Bay which connects to the Long Island Expressway and cross the sound to where I-95 and 287 meet in Port Chester. This would provide direct access via 287 to the Tappen Zee bridge that crosses the Hudson River and connects to the NY State Turnpike going up state. Thus it would be easy to travel from the Long Island Expressway to the NY State Turnpike or in Port Chester to head up I-95 to Boston and avoid going though NYC..
NY Rte. 135 on Long Island was intended to be a part of I-287 in anticipation of the bridge.
They’ve been trying to build tunnels and bridges for decades here on Long Island to Connecticut to ease traffic so I don’t see this passing
As a Long Islander I approve of this message
We could use another bridge, in the event of an evacuation of Long Island we have to travel through the city, and that would be a traffic hell hole
to be fair, weve never had to evacuate the island and if we did most people would be too stubborn to do anything about it. theyd just sit in their houses as another katrina level storm flodded their house and makos swam around their feet.
We should name the two projects. Joey Buttafuoco skyline bridge. And "Long Island Lolita". Amy Fisher tunnel
Amy Fisher's tunnel had enough exposure in her porn movie!
They’ve tried this so many times but people don’t want to ruin the environment but they rather waste money with cars in traffic in queens
Helicopters*
Train tunnel from kings park through the old kings park psychiatric hospital. Now a park. Can build 3 story parking garage and a link to sunken meadow parkway. There is a reason the state has kept the property that sits there on the water. Dilapidated buildings and partially used for soccer games. Google it and see how an expanded kings park station could be built there with parking and solar panels. Property just sits there.
To be fair the tunnel would probably begin in Syosset where Jericho Turnpike and the Seaford Oyster Bay meet. That's where the original approach was built and being it's already 3 lanes wide in both directions and below street level for Jericho Turnpike, it would be less disruptive.
I am a resident in Rye, and support the tunnel proposal. This will bring more westchester residents to long island for leisure.
I was born right next door to you,
I was born and raised in Port Chester NY.
Chen, you’re Rong!
The people in long island got a stick up their ass. They dont like city folk or upstate ppl.
@@isaacd7619 we are not upstate, you mean Westchester county New York
@@tiffanymariezaccagnino2599 A lot of people in NYC and LI would consider anything above the 5 boroughs as “upstate”. Truthfully, I’m one of those people.
As a Long Islander, traffic here is so bad. Even in Suffolk County. We need better roads and definitely a bridge at some point
My uncle bought a property in Wading River in 1960. He said that, at the time, three cars would pass by during a day. By 1994, three cars would pass by every minute.
A bridge isn't going to help traffic one bit, and if anything will make it worse, that's exactly what some of those studies ended up showing... do your hw...
@@metatron5199 I think that that was what happened when Robert Moses built all those roads. It's as if roads act like magnets, attracting cars.
@@everforward8651 Well Robert moses gave us the shittest parkways because he didn't want buses coming in from the city. if they fixed our parkways traffic would be much better
@@bmcunning That's kind of ironic, considering that, after the Second World War, so many people came from Brooklyn and Queens to Nassau and Suffolk (including my father's three siblings), that the stereotype is that all Long Islanders talk like people from the city (I know: people in Brooklyn and Queens refer to Manhattan as "The City.")
This sounds like a sound idea
I the State wasn't broke, yeah
Ba dum tss
I see what you did there
Are you out of your mind?????....do you even live here?????...a tunnel will ruin the island!!!!!
@@felictyenglish4780 how would it ruin it? The amount of people coming from upstate down isn't nearly as bad as the amount of people coming from the city, east towards Suffolk. Traffic wouldn't increase THAT much it would just allow people to travel faster
as someone who lives on long island I found this very interesting and now i realize that my local news doesn’t bring it up anymore (pre covid )
The original bridge option was designed to connect the north end of The Seaford Oysterbay Expressway aka route 135 with I95 in Connecticut. That roadway ends abruptly and looks unfinished.
So, if there was a bridge there, it wouldn't take long to get from Bethpage to Ct.?
It is I believe it ends in Woodbury finish it already!
@@nancyomalley9959NY 135 begins in Seaford and ends in Syosset. They should also extend the Bethpage State Parkway north from Bethpage State Park to Caumsett Park and name the portion of the parkway north of the LIE the Caumsett State Parkway. This plan would bring more tourists to Long Island and allow more people to visit Long Island parks in the Summer. NY 135 should definitely be extended north to Rye in Westchester and a cable stayed bridge called the Oyster Bay Rye Bridge should be built to connect NY-135 with I-287 and I-95 in Rye, Westchester County, NY.
Another great video. Reminds me of the Jack Lynch Tunnel in my home city of Cork which took thousands of cars out of the city centre while saving travel times. (Of course this is on a much smaller scale)
People from Cooooork never stop yapping on about that place, nobody cares about the place, particularly in this video. From a fellow Irishman (in case you get a more swollen head thinking people from New York heard of Cork).
For everyone's edification, the Seaford Oyster Bay expressway was built for this purpose. Checkout how it ends on the nortshore, for either bridge or tunnel!
Yes, it is the rare road the simply comes to an abrupt "end" at Route 25 (Jericho Turnpike). Though the exit ramps just before that funnel traffic either east or west , the rump of the rest of the road intended to go north to this proposed bridge is still quite visible today.
But it's wrong to attribute the entire reason for a a failure to build a bridge or tunnel to opposition from selfish rich homeowners. As only passingly noted, LI is densely populated and already has famously troublesome traffic problems. These types of connections would only make those traffic problems worse. More traffic would flow through LI even when the origin or destination of many trips would have nothing to do with LI itself. For example, a motorist traveling from say Boston to Philadelphia could use this type of a bridge and avoid almost all of NYC, but that advantage would offer essentially no benefit to LI itself. That's part of why this bridge has never been built. Why there's been almost no discussion of a rail bridge is also a worthy topic of review.
The Island is a trap God help us if we need to leave.
If you don’t own a boat your screwed
@@francisalbert1799 nah bruh I’m swimmin 🤣🤣
@Francis Albert who doesn’t have a boat on Long Island I’ve yet to meet someone without one
@@couldntthinkofaname_1682 ridiculous comment
Don't worry. The wealthy will be able to evacuate in their helicopters.
Everyone: We want this bridge!
Also everyone: No. Not like that. We want a bridge or a tunnel, but not a bridge or a tunnel like that...
Then your consultation on this matter has expired, the bridge now will be build according to the best available plan, your opposition is now of no use
It needs to be an invisible bridge or tunnel that can be created without any construction and that doesn't increase traffic or bring in outsiders
Connecticut resident here
I’ve always wondered if we could build a tunnel to alternate universe Connecticut
Ummm....If you check the old subway maps, there was a subway tunnel dug BEFORE 1900 from Manhattan to Long Island. It was closed in the 1920's but George M. Cohen wrote a song about it. ("From Manhattan to Long Island" in the musical "Mary"). There was also a subway stop at the Astor Palace (Trump Grand) Hotel on Broadway too. New York City Transit's current subway system is less than 1/10th of it's original nearly 1000 miles extending into New Jersey and Connecticut. There are hundreds of miles of abandoned subway tunnels and hundreds of thousands of abandoned "dreadnought" (heavyweight-pre-WWII) subway cars under New York City. HBO attempted to do a documentary on them starting in 1999 but the World Trade Center Disaster took place right over the 1900's "HUB" of the old subway lines and the project was abandoned. Thousands of yards of concrete was poured into the tunnels to block them off from the curious.
I live on Long Island and I enjoy taking the Orient Point to New London Ferry to get to Cape Cod. It's even nicer on the way back. It's a nice break from driving and I don't mind how long it takes. You're out in farmland and have a nicer trip back rather than going through NYC. I would rather see a tunnel but I doubt I will see either in my lifetime.
The solution is a combination bridge and tunnel project. The tunnel would go under Long Island, in the Oyster Bay area at Rt. 104 and Rt 25A, and then surface near the shore to the cross Sound bridge.That way the beauty of islands north shore is preserved, without the cost of the whole tunnel. Something similar on the other side would work too. Think of the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel project.
I was thinking the same thing
It’s Route 108 in Cold Spring Harbor, Route 104 is in Upstate New York from Buffalo to Syracuse.
This would be great. Travelling from Long Island to upstate New York requires going through Penn Station, which is already operating near capacity. Having LIRR link up with Metro-North via a tunnel (along with freight trains) would greatly improve logistics in the region. There's a lot of jobs in Long Island as well, and a new tunnel linking NY to LI would unlock so much potential commerce & economic growth.
Relieve most of the traffic on highways going to nyc
There was also a proposal for high speed rail tunnel between the two. To me that would make quite a lot of sense,especially is LIRR trains could use it.
yes to me a high speed rail way connecting LI to NYC and JFK would make more sense
There was talks of a building a bridge years ago from to CT To LI,using the 135 (Seaford Oyster Bay Expressway),but of course the rich folks in the area paid the local town and state officials not to do so,because of "Noise Pollution" .....weird cause if you're familiar with Long Island and that Expressway you will know where it comes to a end there isn't any house no where in that area.. My job actually has a layout and demo of the bridge that was proposed for the project..
Another option could be, a Much, Much FASTER, Higher Capacity or Greater Frequency and Improved Ferry Service that would zip across the L.I. Sound. Possibly, Hovercraft ?
Still wouldn't solve the $60 toll each way problem.
Matthew Anderson ... You're right. It's like putting a band-aid on something that needs stitches.
the reason the "expanded and enlarged ferry service will never work is why it does not now. 80$ round trip !?! Most people would rather sit in traffic for hours and save the $$$ then cough up for the less than great savings in time that taking the ferry is.
The key words here are “emergency evacuations”.
Exactly! Or how about "Global Warming Emergency Evacuation Managment Protocols." 😂🤣😄
NYS has a $59B budget deficit for 2020.
The Tappan Zee, errr..."The Mario M. Cuomo Memorial" boondoggle cost a fortune to replace and the governor (of the same name) still doesn't have the balls to price out the new toll schedule.
It'll never happen
'Throg's Neck' sounds like a place in Middle Earth
Yea
well the infrastructure in new york is probably old and decrepit enough to have existed in a Tolkien universe so maybe you are on to something.
A lot of town the Long Island sound like they come from a fantasy novel
TalenGryphon
Middle Earth (NZ) has better infrastructure than the good ole Un-United States of America!
Even our potholes are of a better quality!
As someone whose been living on Long Island for 50 years, I agree that we need a new crossing; if anything to have a new evacuation route that doesn't depend on going through Brooklyn or Queens. With that being said, it will never ever happen. The politics and economics involved will see to that. Everything in downstate NY has a price tag 10x-100x more expensive than anywhere else in the world. Add to the fact that Gold Coast (Northshore LI) residents have a NIMBY (not in my backyard) attitude so it will never go through. Also things take forever to be built in NY. Look at the 2nd Ave tunnel project and how long that's been going on and how much the final price tag is going to be compared to the initial projections. Nope. Sorry. Not happening. : (
I’m from north shore and it’s going to ruin everything. Yes it may seem good, but it’s going to ruin iconic oyster bay and make everyone’s house worth nothing. Also, if you live on south shore, you don’t care because it doesn’t affect you. But when you live near it’s going to ruin everything we have going on over here.
@@matthewbeggs2803 I agree with that up to a point. Just remember those sentiments when it comes time to bug out and your stuck on the LIE for 5 hours just to get to the Cross Island.
every boomer on long island is acting Amish... everything here was perfect in the 70's just the perfect amount of development for them but absolutely nothing else. smh you people make me sick.
Huntington, long Island resident here: guys, lets do this!
went to HHS?
west babylon here!
Yeeeeees!!
Merrick
Hell no, Huntington is full enough. Why would anyone want this?
As long as they name it after Billy Joel, I'm all for it
It’ll Probably be called the Andrew Cuomo bridge
He wouldn't want his name on it. It might mess with his neighbors property values.
Dear Leader Bridge.
@@atimkelly he sold his center island house and yes it would screw up the values of his former elite neighborhood of Centre Island with some house in the realm of 30 plus million. #SaveTheOysters
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Never thought of this, but i think both proposls should b undertaken - the first proposal should have been undertaken a long time ago, and should be a road and rail bridge that should be part of Amtracks NEC corridor.
for that to work the trains would have to go out of their way to use it
@@keeganharris186 Wow you people really accept these construction projects?? In my country when we build a similar structure like that there is huge opposition by environmentalists and also there are several articles saying how this is an environmental disaster
Pratham Prabhu the actual local residents of any of the proposed location all reject these ideas, exactly for the various reasons you listed, and FYI I'm one of those local's, this plan will never happen, and it shouldn't bc it's not nearly as important or needed as this vid made it out to be...
@@metatron5199 so it exists then, in our country the media and the news more than other important affairs keep showing this for long time till it gets bored
Pratham Prabhu essentially this is a dead idea, it will never happen, for the reasons you mentioned plus many more
I remember back in the late sixties early 1970s they want to build a bridge around oyster Bay.
It would have connected i-287 to Long island.
We did a play written by one of the teachers in the Bayville Elementary School that was propaganda against building a bridge this was back in 1971.
Bruh
Yeah, we need this tunnel
Also at 0:01 you didn't highlight Fire Island as part of Long Island. If you're gonna include the other barrier islands as part of Long Island, you might as well include Fire Island
Yo primo how you doing. Been awhile since I found you.
I'm from Long Island and speaking as a college student, I think these bridges would be a great idea for faster travel options. Idk why a lot of people from Long Island or New York in general are so against them being built-
Rich old white ppl. But if it was people of color it would of been done 🙁
I live in eastern Long Island and travel upstate and to Vermont frequently..bridges from the island to Connecticut or Rhodes Island would never work because the traffic would be horrible.. the ferry service sucks..I’ve found that leaving Long Island at 5 am on a weekend is the best time to get through NYC and Connecticut
Correct, it actually would only increase traffic on the island and studies have shown this already...
Somebody get this guy a sponsorship
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@waylon lewin we don't need an escape plan on the north shore, we are high enough from sea level to not have a Katarina-like event. If NYC goes underwater in an apocalyptic scenario, then we would all drowned in bumper to bumper traffic. The escape from Long Island would be a evacuation path clear of the 5 boroughs traffic as well? If LI gets hit with tidal waves or goes under the whole northeastern coast is gone too. Stop with the fantasy fear mongering and move to a different state in a high location.
@waylon lewin no, I will take my beach chair, my Coronas and my Patron, get a nice view and salute to the end of life as we know it. Don't mention the governor concerned for the safety of his state to me, as he did as close to nothing to help the Corona virus outbreak and is currentlyin denial about sending the sick elderly back into nursinf homes. He was right about the orthodox breaking social distancing guidelines but he and Deblasio did jack shit in response or prevention off the Rabbi's 2500 person shiva, who died from covid19 right as NY peaked deaths in April. Don't blame the super spreaders we where all told by the media and politicians in the beginning...yet every Trump event was called a super spreader...more people in the first debate contracted the virus than at the Rose Garden ACB ceremony...🤫
@waylon lewin if you care about rising flood waters than you should know that a sizable amount of retired military personnel have been buying homes in the Appalachians as they expect that to be the only safe haven when the big event comes. If its my time, its my time but just as your property is not mine, mine is not yours to destroy.
@waylon lewin which has what to do with a tunnel when there is the Throgs Neck bridge just a little further west of here? The infrastructure of the roads couldn't handle it either so the project is actuallu closer to $30 billion...🚮
Very interesting I never knew this & I'm from Long Island!!! Great content
I’m a Long Islander I would be happy if there was a bridge from Oyster Bay to Connecticut because it’s an easy way to get out of New York and not having to go through the city and it would be convenient for a tunnel to Westchester county so my family can get to my sister’s house in Poughkeepsie. I in to support that 👍
Get up early !
@@bruceglover7971 you're part of the problem. Solving an issue people have been talking about since '38 isn't gonna ever get fixed if everyone just "gets up earlier"
2:46 Watching the bridge go right through Centre Island is the best thing i’ve ever seen
It would make things so much easier, instead of having to schlep west to the Throgs Neck Bridge.
A bridge or tunnel from Rye to OysterBay (135) would connect the island to nearby I95 and more importantly I287, the only true ring road interstate around the metro area. You could get anywhere in the metro area within 2hrs..Not only would it improve commute times and lessen traffic , it would be great for the economy of the areas. Unfortunately the north shore of long Island is wealthy and influential
Your right about everything except lessening traffic. There is something called traffic generation. By building a bridge you actually create more traffic on existing roads within a few months of building the facility.
😎Roslyn is in the chat... we are here. And I say build it!
@@seanmurphy4465 Have at it. You want more traffic I guess? It will pollute the sound as well. I'm on the south shore wouldn't affect me really at all.
Living in Long Island makes me feel trapped, every town here looks the same.
ON long island
Dissje was the Impostor
You ain't no Long Islander, no one on Long Island say "lives in" we say "lives on" if you were an actual islander you would know this, nice try tho
@@metatron5199 lol true statement
I think the towns have their own character: Northport, Patchogue, Huntington, Southhampton, and Montauk all look unique.
We used to summer out in Springs my entire life. My grandparents bought out there in the 50's. Over the years the traffic got worse. So bad now, although it's still beautiful & we have great memories, none of us have houses out there any more. Sad 😭
First and foremost, from an ecological standpoint, building a tunnel in the Oyster Bay area can't be done. I am far from an eco alarmist but did take a careful look at it in 2018 when Cuomo was pushing the tunnel idea. The clay boundaries of Aquifers that supply drinking water to most of long island would need to be pierced during the boring process. When and not if the aquifers would be contaminated as a result, millions of LI residents would suddenly find themselves without potable water. That would be and epic disaster and arguably unrecoverable. As a second and less dire effect, "if you build it, they will come." Expanding highway infrastructure is always sold as a traffic congestion reliever but in reality it never does. After they built the Long Island Expressway for example, did it not fill up with cars? Are there no more traffic jams on LI now? Maybe if we added a couple more lanes in each direction, I'm sure it would be smooth sailing...for a few weeks. So, we don't really need to get into the class warfare argument because regardless of where you live on Long Island if they try to bore through the flimsy clay boundaries of that aquifer most everyone living there is going to get thirsty really quickly. Futurology, maybe dig into it a little deeper next time, pardon the pun.
This guy makes videos about insane tunnel proposals, and I love it!
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I just cant believe long Island does does not have a bridge, such a advanced nation, time is money. The more time you have the more money you make. I hope you build the bridge soon.
@Joe Libra why did it go there?? And how do you know??
There are 3 existing bridges from Long Island (Queens) to the Bronx. The largely acknowledged "lesson learned" from the Robert Moses era of building these bridges is that new bridges are almost immediately saturated with overwhelming new traffic density (attracted by the new bridge option) "A If you build it, they will come" mindset.
Further, Connecticut & Rhode Island will never allow a bridge to Long Island, as it provides zero benefit to them. Also, residents on LI's north fork are overwhelming opposed to widening roads/adding density that such a bridge would require. Right now, a New York-sponsored bridge (to Rye ?) is highly unlikely, as it has been opposed by local LI and Westchester factions for decades. Also, NYS is/will be in extreme economic hardship for 10-20 yrs (Covid) during which mass transit needs and maint of existing highways & bridges will consume 99% of State & Fed-contributed budget.
Long Island is connected to the mainland with many bridges and tunnels and it has been for over a century. The problem is that they are all in densely populated areas that already have very heavy motor vehicle traffic.
Ok. So the do have bridges, only that there is a lot of cars in LI. to much traffic, well you have to do something, hope you can fix it.
We have plenty already, and we don't want any new ones, they will not do the things that are stated in this vid, they are just a bad idea and a huge waste of money especially when it can be spent much more productively elsewhere...
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Futurology: tunnels & bridges
Lived my entire life on Long Island. I’ll save you time and sum up this video for you. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. You’re welcome
I'm a Long Island native and current resident. To leave LI takes a vast amount of planning. Right now your best bet is to travel in the middle of the night, or the early hours of the morning, to avoid the insane congestion. To make good time getting off LI you want to be traveling though NYC between 10 PM and 4AM. Any other time and you'll be idling the whole way there.
Dude it's not hard at all, you literally need zero planning, stop lying fool
@@metatron5199 Chill. How I travel is none of your business.
People should consider that a bridge often improves the view of its location. The archetypal example is the Golden Gate; it would surely be scenic without the bridge, but the bridge makes it a truly iconic view.
@J. S. What is your address tell me?
Can you do a video on the Magistrate for Europe/ Main line for Europe railway project that will connect Paris to Bratislava and Budapest? It will use mostly already existing lines but new ones are also being built.
PLEASE, WE NEED THIS
great video as always, keep up the great work!
This is Long Island we're talking about. We're all about massive projects that never go anywhere. We spent a decade building a nuclear power plant and then at the last minute, refused to let it open, and ate the cost of construction in higher utility bills for the next 20 years.
the tone of the narrators voice... i can’t stop noticing it and it’s a bit funny 😭😭😭
It's driving me insane, and I couldn't find any comments mentioning his voice until I found yours! Kinda sing songy too. Down and then up at the end.
New York can't get anything done. Hence why I am moving out of here this summer
The corruption in our state is finally being exposed.
I live in Kings Park and support s Bridge to Bridgeport along with a light rail connection between the LIRR in Kings Park and Amtrak in Bridgeport.
I am sure if Bridgeport and Kings Park were allowed to keep some of the toll revenue for payments in liu of taxes, there would be support. The Sunken Meadow Parkway already provides highway access to the approach.
All we need is more traffic on Long Island like there isn’t enough.
Amityville resident here, traffic is horrible we need this
BRO Im from amityville its so bad nd ghetto here
So build one threw your county's town to the north. A lot of prime real estate in Kings Park last time i checked. Try moving instead. The traffic is horrible because illegal immigrants have settled here for decades and they are having more kids than you and they are now driving. Should have built a wall instead 🚮
@@eddietide2129 lol "economic anxiety " much? Traffic is getting worse because of the growing population overall not "illegals" reproducing more than long islanders...
@@clevernamegotban1752 people who can afford to live here either died of old age, or moved before they died. The illegals, specifically their legal children are such a big factor in the Oyster Bay area they had to hire translators because 6-8 year old children showed up in the schools not knowing one word of English and there is constant town meetings over under funded budgets..because the parents never paid taxes into a system their children benefit from. Overpopulation...the people that can afford to live here are have 3 kids max, the people who can't are having 4-7 and we are paying for it. Not the kids fault, the parents...the illegals. Also, since new housing was scarce, there has been a rise in apartments...the sides of those apartments are all tagged up with bad hombre graffiti as are every street sign in Oyster Bay, which actually indicates drug drop zones...but you might say something to the effect of those rich kids love doing drugs...the dealers might look like themselves but the suppliers have always been Queens/ Westbury gang affiliates. Basically, GFY. Incase you feel like giving some of your money to me instead of voting to take my money and give it to you i can always DM you my PayPal adress...please list the payment as reparations so i don't get taxed on my own money being sent back to me. Thief
@@eddietide2129 Well I live on the South Shore of Long Island and I know plenty of legal parents who have more than 3 kids. I ran track in HS and went to meets and races all over the Island. Roughly 75-80% of the people who I ran against were white english speakers, and the other 15-18% or so were black from the city or predominantly black towns on LI. Very few Hispanic people or and I can't remember one time where I heard someone speaking Spanish at a meet. Town budgets on LI aren't being draining solely because they have to hire a few translators lmao, studies show that hispanic people that move to the U.S usually pick up english pretty quick, some say they are transitioning to english as fast or faster than the german immigrants in the U.S back in the 1900's. Those "illegals" would pay taxes if they were U.S citizens but the GOP and Trump have repeatedly sent ICE after them hunting them for deportation and closing paths to citizenship. OFC they are not going to try to become taxpaying citizens right now because A. The process to become a citizen either doesn't exist or isn't readily available or B. They're scared that if they reveal themselves to the state that ICE will send them back to their home country which for many of them is unsafe. They'd rather live in fear of deportation than live in fear of their lives somewhere else. You can't blame illegals for not paying taxes when they can't become U.S citizens in the first fucking place. I've noticed a lot of the new housing/apartment places and most of them I've personally seen are going up in decent areas and actually look rather nice, usually by train stations. Seriously dude have you been outside whatever town you are from? Or do you just get the news from your pals on facebook without ever traveling around? Because I live on the island you're trying to describe and I have yet to see any of the type of stuff you've mentioned. If you wanna stop paying for translators than you can move off the island too! (Just like how you were telling others that if they didn't like the traffic they could leave LI) Your imaginary notion that traffic has gotten worse because of "illegals" having too many kids is a joke, most of those people can barely afford 1 car per family. You're a salty ...salty boomer IF you think LI is being ruined by "illegals" and your taxes aren't doing anything good than stop crying about something you clearly can't change pick up your shit and move somewhere else where you can be happy. Sounds to me like you're just pounding your thick head into a wall over and over again.
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Why don't they look at a cut-n-cover tunnel option. it's shallow enough. This type of construction ends up with a curved area of lake floor being dredged and then sections are floated into place.
yea much cheaper to do that, especially if the ground under the sound is not very solid where you cant bore a tunnel.
If you’re not from Long Island then you don’t realize that residents from oyster bay would NEVER approve this, ever.
Once approved it will take American builders 50 years to complete
Just hire builders from China, they will have is done in 6 months.
Unions, Subaru.
You're absolutely right! China would also complete the job at less than half the costs and with their prices could accomplish twice the amount of work.
Why would a bridge decrease property values. If it improves access it would only increase values. The access roads can be an issue but having them low lying with decorative sound walls and trees helps hide the road and noise.
Bc the north shore of LI is some of the most desirable land to live on in the world, literally we have billionaires across the Gold Coast... it will never happen and that's good bc it won't be as good as it is made out to seem in this vid... many negative issues
The Seaford Oyster bay expressway was made expressly for this purpose, it now just ends by the NIMBY’s in Oyster Bay.
Newsflash: There are already several tunnels (more than 8) to Long Island (Brooklyn and Queens are on Long Island) via the subways and LIRR😉😝
ya but driving to queens or bk takes me like 30 minutes and i dont have to be around ppl in tight spaces and i dont have to worry about getting harassed by weirdos and i can operate on my own schedule 😉😝
And now that I live in Brooklyn, yes driving through the city is always a nightmare. Always used to drive through when going from Suffolk to pennsylvania for vacation and there was always massive traffic and so many tolls/bridges -___-
They can’t build a tunnel under the Hudson River!
The fact that there's not one already just proves how little the generations between 1960 and now have actually done
As someone who's taken the port jeff ferry multiple times, its definitely faster than taking the queens route. The traffic is fucking crazy and you have to leave super early (around 4am) to skip it.
Finally someone shows some love for Long Island
Long Island Traveller here, god we needed this. Traveling to the city just to get anywhere off of the island is really a nightmare. Not to mention the throgs neck bridge seemingly is always under construction and has at least one lane shut down and the Whitestone being under the same probably. By the time something gets done I’ll be dead tho. lol
Good
If the Throggs neck is always under construction think about what you are saying how long do you think a NEW proposed bridge or tunnel would take put on your thinking cap
@@jackiemack8653 it would take 55 billion 3 decades and never open like the decommissioned Shorham plant, and it would pollute the air ground and water...this time not with radiation with though. Sounds good? Sweet thinking cap, dunce
@@jackiemack8653 if you put on your glasses I wrote “by the time something gets done I’ll be dead” I don’t need a thinking cap to know it’ll never even gain traction and even if it did it’ll sit in limbo forever
I live on the north shore of Long Island and altho I agree a connection is definitely NEEDED it will never happen only way I see it getting local approval is if it’s a tunnel that starts from lie and just goes under the north shore but that will add a few billion to the cost
I'd opt for more ferry service from various points than the tunnel at the moment because it's simply more do-able. Modern, "green" ferries of various sizes, some that carry vehicles, others that only carry people and bicycles. (With uber or smart car connections on the other side). These ferries could go from NYC to all points along the north shore and some along the south shore, and could also go to points in Weschester and Connecticut.
Could you explore the proposals of:
- A Delaware Bay Fixed Crossing between Cape May and Lewes.
- A California Bay Fixed Crossing between the peninsula and the mainland Mexico.
- An Appalachian tunnel system.
California and Mexico have hundreds of miles of connected land. Wtf are you talking about?
@@seanmurphy4465 Baja California to mainland Mexico
yeah getting out to orient you're talking about like 20 miles on a 2 lane road going 35mph. And Oyster Bay would start a civil war before they let a bridge go through there.
Orient is like 30 miles to yaphank so depending on where you live it can easily be 50
I recommend 3 tunnels, all of which to accommodate Rail so that the LIRR, MetroNorth and CT Rail can easily link with each other.
CT Transit, NICE Bus and RIPTA will all expand their services for improved transit connectivity.
Also, rail will allow AMTRAK to operate New York to Boston service via Long Island, which increases service between Massachusetts and NYC and increase Transit options along the Northeast Corridor to improve Transit Connectivity between New York and Boston.
A tunnel sounds like a better idea. 2+2 lanes for cars & trucks, 1+1 lanes for buses, 2+2 tracks for rail (2 for freight and slow passenger rail, 2 for fast passenger rail).
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About time this happened! We need several bridges too connecting North Shore to Westchester and Connecticut!!!
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How about reorganizing Long Island railroad in 2 routes of an old network and Bullet Train?
Railroad use eases traffic jam and is also good for the environment. Rapid transit railway can arrive at the destination quickly.
When utilizing infrastructure of existence, the cost can be suppressed.