Does Suzuki need to FORGET The K6 GSXR? (GSXR1000 Vs GSXS1000)
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Suzuki makes motorcycles affordable by bringing out a really good bike, and then selling the same bike year after year.
And increasing the price for the exact same package...seems so fair
@@56sketch That's called inflation
Some times to the detriment of the bike. Would it really kill them to update the M109R? Like seriously some abs and rider modes? Maby freshen up the engine for some better numbers?
@56sketch Price for the 750 hasn’t changed since 2011+. $12,600
@@mrspeigle1 You are right about that. Even when a bike is losing market share, like the SV650 vs Yahama's MT07, they stick with making few to no changes, so the bike will have to be discounted to sell.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
- Suzuki
The legendary k5 is actually worthy of being called a legend! More bike than most people will ever need...
I like how he’s riding 1000cc bike and says that they are fast but not crazy, it’s obvious what has happen 😪 the turbo BUSA changed him.
Good point.
About time someone recognizes this bike just WORKS. Simple, durable and fun as hell.
If its not broken, dont try and fix it
I bought a 2018 GSX-S1000Z ABS in 2019 by total accident. Backed into it while examining a Kawie Z900 that I was intent on buying that night new off the floor at an MC dealer in So Cal. Paid $7000 for a dealer demo with 4000 miles on the clock. Felt like I stole it. Had two K^ Gixxer litre bikes previously. Was unaware that Suzuki made a naked after the B-King (which I also once owned). Bought the Gixses that night and rode it home in the rain. Three years later, I'm still in love with that bike. Rides like the Gixxer, but with a much more comfortable riding position. Like the sound of the stock exhaust. Now has Corsa II tires and bar-end mirrors. Speedo's off by about 7%. Installed a Power Commander to add some fuel for smoothness. What a great bike!
The fact that like 3 of the 4 gixxer bro’s that I know, have had frosted tips 😂😂 and yes, they all rocked cargo shorts and flip flops while riding.
Every time I see someone in flip flops anywhere but the beach I just think how easily a toe “can just come off”
@_@
The GSX-S is such a good bike to ride, I just came back from a 12 hour ride, from Auckland to Cape reinga and back, from riding twistie roads in the rain to your typical off camber rural NZ roads it handles like a dream, super comfortable and lights up like a Christmas tree in the dark, got home safe, really good at over taking streams of cars, has loads of power!
REALLY LIKE yammies buddy, does an AWESOME review and comparison...good vibes
Great review Spite. I love that engine. I own the 2021 GSXS 1000...with brembos. I paid £11000, thats 6 grand cheaper than the R, and I ride it here in England through the Peak Disrict twistys, which are some of the best roads ever. Oh and I ride it to work and put my sandwiches under the pillion seat. Great bike.
the same here but in Poland
Hello from Scotland, Gary 👋
Do you do winter commutes on your GSXS1000 by any chance? I would love to get the 21/22 model in black, they look absolutely gorgeous.
Yes I commuted in winter. Its great on wet roads. It has 5 stage traction control, off an 4 more active settings. 5 is rain mode. Under 30 mph traction control and mapping can be altered. C mode and TCT are excellent in the wet. A mode and TCT 1 or off and its a monster. Very aggressive. B mode is more daily use but hit the twisties open her up and she's seriously quick. I've done the original dunlops in 3k. Just put michelin road 5s on. Very good and tip in well. But by far the best thing about it is it handles like a 750. Really nimble. Its actually 1kg lighter than the 750 because it has the gixxer 1000 aluminum frame, engine and swing arm.
@@gkbike7002 thank you 🍻
Hi I read a test that the pegs hit the ground before you ever get to full lean. Is that true?
I have a 2016 GSX-S 1000 and it's so good, never a problem, and the motor...wow! Even on the track! Maybe the brakes are not good enough.
I ride an 18 F-model gsxs. I can't ride a regular sport bike due to a back injury. With the lower seat and bars I can ride it for hours. It was also the most powerful in it's class at the time. Also was considerably cheaper than most of the others in it's class.
Just got my 2023 GSX S1000 yesterday . I don't care if it is a K5 engine , it run butt smoot and is reliable (and a good price)
Very good value .
I have the gray 2016 GSX-S1000 and it’s just so much fun and easy to keep going why mess with it if it ain’t broken! I also have a 15’ CBR300R it’s fun in town and easy to keep going like new to. I hope they make them forever like SBC’s I hope they never die.
Suzuki has always built great bikes. My first and only Suzuki I bought after I retired and 30 years away from motorcycles (a 1988 GSX1100F with 113,000 km on it at the time) and it's amazing how well even the old ones hold up.
My gen1 Bandit 12 concurs.
Excellent video. Spite keep em coming 👌
Both the Gsx s and the r are both rock solid motorcycles with arguably the best sound especially on the downshifts..🥲. If u need comfort just go with the s
Streetfighter V4, MT10, Tuono V4, Speed Triple all sound miles better imo
They have an amazing powerband they did good to renew it in 2021 it's an amazing engine very under-rated
Why hasn't Papa Yam done a colab with manscaped to make an electric head shaver? Electric or not I'd like to see a special edition Papa Yam "Potato Peeler"
Bwahahaha
I need a Potato Peeler
I also would get a “potato peeler!!!!”
🤣
Great video Spite, but honestly you don't really even go into the half of it. There is a whole family of GSXS-1000 bikes now. The plain GSXS-1000, the GSXS-1000F with a full fairing, The 80's retro styled Katana GSXs-1000F and the sports touring GSXS-1000GT. They are all basically the same bike with different bodywork, seats and subframes. Suzuki knocked it out of the park in '05 and they keep running the bases. As for me, I love my 2020 Katana. I personally think it looks great and it's a beast of a bike when you get on it but with enough of a mild mannered persona if you take it easy to do just about anything.
So I have a 2020 Suzuki Katana 1000 (GSXS100S), which has the same frame and swing arm as a 2017 GSXR and the K5, and my friend has a 2014 GSXR1000, we’ve rode each other’s bikes and honestly everything under 100 feels exactly the same. Besides me having handlebars and a wider seat. We both have full remapped tunes and tires.
Just bought a new 24 GSXS1000, great bike, tons of midrange and top end!
At this point, why even try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to combustion engine vehicles? This includes motorcycles. It's just a matter of time before they're regulated into oblivion. The people at Suzuki aren't idiots. Like all the other major manufacturers, Suzuki has likely been focusing on innovation and development of new green tech platforms for quite some time now.
That's probably why all the companies use one engine in 4 different kinds of bikes
Depends on what you compare it to. If you go top teir bike, like a 21 RSV4 the Suzuki is almost a second slower in the quarter mile running a 10.28 in motostats hands vs a 9.4 on the Aprilia. I think the real consideration here is that for the several thousands less that the Suzuki calls for, it's a rather good value. Just my opinion.
@@Fin.mint. RSV4 1100 quarter mile in 9.4 :-)
Fastestlaps has the RSV4 on 10.4 seconds @ 154mph similar to the the 2021 Fireblade SP, and RSV4 0-60mph in a slow 3.2 seconds.
2006 GSXR-1000 0-60 best recorded at 2.35 seconds (normal at 2.7) and quarter mile at 9.95 for the 2012 model and 10.1 sec for 2006 model.
Best claimed RSV4 2.7 sec 0-60mph and 9.7 sec quarter mile.
A 215whp still stock wheelbase Brock Performance S1000RR does the quarter mile in 8.72 seconds (World Record), one second faster than the RSV4.
A skilled oldschool no electronics sports rider on a 7000USD 2006 GSXR-1000 obliterates most young riders on their 26000 USD RSV4 on track and on the street, it's called rider experience not hampered by limiting electronics and tall gearing of modern sports bikes.
@@THEREALZENFORCE Fastest laps has the previous gen RSV4. A quick CZcams search shows a normal guy running a 9.9 second quarter on his new RSV4. 40 HP difference my man.
@@Fin.mint. So with 9.9 seconds the new RSV4 is still slower than a stock 193hp and way slower than 212hp versions of S1000RR HP4 from 2013 and 2014. And the 2021 RSV4 is far behind the 222hp (226PS) S1000RR HP4 Ilmberger Carbon variant.
this is my current bike love these videos best bike ever K6 1000
Love my K8 bought it brand new probably never getting rid of it
Dude the exit clips always get me, no matter if they are the same or not lol
Hi, yes i have that exact gsxs1000, same colour..
I took 1 year to think about what naked bike I was going to buy...
Was it going to be a ducati or a yamaha or a honda I wasn't even considering a suzuki... until I read about the K5 engine....
So it was a bit dated but it was a special engine, so I had to see for my self what was the big hipe...
So I made an appointment at the suzuki dealer to try it
A 30 minute ride was all it took to hook me, that was it, I had discovered the K5 engine in a more refined manner and man did that sound and that gruall put my hairs on edge...
Some people forget that perfection on a motorcycle is not about the most modern, it's all about how the bike makes you feel when you ride it...
When suzuki decided to build that bike they first asked their fans how they wanted the bike to be...
And then and behold came the GSX-1000
Look forward to the leoncino vids. Would be interesting if you still had the svart 401 to pit it against.
I lost my K6 GSXR1000 in 2013 in a horrible accident & She was paid off just 1 week prior. She was my absolute favorite bike in my garage with my 2005 gen1 Turbo busa was fun but around town my K6 was my goto. I now own a 2022 Hayabusa and I would love to re-add the legendary GSXR1000 back to my life. Unless someone owned this bike, it's hard to understand the raw feeling and weight of this beast, it's a feather with an amazing engine.
I love my FZ10, FZ07, & Tw200 so much but would also like to add a GSXR to my fleet but i am already starting to look crazy and running out of room i think they are awesome bikes and motors
this video is what happens when we leave Spite alone with the cameras and the keys :)
I has a 2018 gsxs1000 till last week when I sadly crashed it. Was the most fun and easiest bike to ride I ever owned. Hopefully insurance repairs it
They throb at idle because they are surging for fuel and come out the factory lean like the fireblade , a good ecu tune will get a smooth idle
Just picked up a 2022 GSX-S1000 model. The fueling issue has been fixed in this newer model. Smooth as butter. Also the QS and auto blipper are really nice. It just needs a full exhaust (Yoshimura R-11) and a tune to really wake it up.
You need to get the catalytic converter off it makes the motor run hot as shit.. hence will shorten the life of that engine..
What year is the GSXS in this video?
@@BlueRageXX The GSX-S1000 debuted in 2015 in Japan. In 2022 they revamped it in many ways including the styling. The one is this video is pre 2022, but I can't tell what specific year.
Zoinked out? I like the naked, if I was in the first world I probably be rocking it and in that colour scheme too.
Friend of mine had an '02 GSXr 750....AMAAAAAZING BIKE!!!!!
P.S. Spite has THE best "weeeeeeee" 🤣🤣🤣
My 1977 rd400 was my favorite.. I'm a Yamaha man at heart..
Can't argue with the performance in moto gp 👏
AYOO I see that LEONCINO on the back?!?!?! review on it soon?
I got the 2016 gsxs 1000 and I still can keep up with the newer zx1000r and zx1000rr, so if it's not broken don't fix it, and it's nimble too
sneak peak of an rsv4 1100 factory giveaway bike in the back at the beginning of the video?
There's also the katana, GSXS1000F and the new GT. All with the same frame and engine.
when y;all gonna release content on that Benelli?
Just picked up the GT... love it! Gixxer with bags
Does it handle well?
@@ashdivakaran9664 It sure does... easily lean it into the corners / twisties. I haven't done a track day but on the street, no difference than a naked or sport bike.
Can't wait to put on the Michelin Road 6 tires on... handling will improve 100%. When the OEM rubber is done I'll change the tire with the 6's and change the profile from 190/50/17 to 190/55/17... the cornering will be improved along with a closer speedo correction.
My GT+ came with 2 windscreens so, for the long haul or weekend trips, I'll put the touring screen on.
I love the cases on how quick and easy they are putting them on and taking them off. I also like the folding handles.
@@twotone3426 thanks. I ride a ZX14r that is a handful, and I’m torn between the GSXr 1000 or the GSXs
Great, thanks! I know this GSXS will be running fine in 10-15 years without a hiccup. Whereas my Superduke? Yeah amazing bike but I wouldn't own one out of warranty and future repairs a) can't do yourself b) expensive
still love my 2018 GIXXUS 1000 Naked, there is just something about them , that can not be put into words🤓🤓😍😍😁😁😎😎👌👌💣
way much tuned down compared to a gixxer k6.
With a midpipe, air filter, flash and tune the gsxs jumps from 140ish to 160hp. My gsxs katana has no trouble keeping up with a new R1 while being much more comfortable
I also have the new Katana. How has it faired against other sportbikes so far?
@@mortaljorma69 R1 bois strike again!!
R1s front look like a crab, definitely uglier than the Katana
There are a lot of people in the comment section with Katanas but I never see them on the road.
The GSX-S 1000 is a genious bike!
Unluckily I just could ride it one time for one hour. But I am thinking about to buy it in the comming years.
I appreciate the way how Suzuki manage their lineup, eliminating one weak part after the other and seeling an updated version for affordable prices. Over long-term this causes a good availability of spareparts and a big community of owners which can help you with their experience / knowledge to fix any problem that may appear one day.
Over all technical matureness, longevity and reliability of the core of the bike are much more important to me than peakpower figures and electronic features.
Thank you for your content on these motorcycles!
Best regards from indoctrinated Germany!
Best of the best 👌
I love my 2019 GSXS1000 & personality I think it looks better then the 2022. I Just wish they gave it a better/newer headlight.
Papa Yam will there be a future vid where the Benelli leoncino is in?
I have a GSXS an absolute amazing ride and Yoshi pipes sound absolutely incredible!!
Did you install a full system or just a slip on?
Just a slip on no baffle sounds great
It’s why I say go with 2007 I don’t need anti-lock brakes or traction control
that ending 😂
I got a 20 Katana last year. Had a gsxr750 before that. Katana (basically gsxs1000 with a different frame) is imo wayyyy more fun. It's unique looking and it catches ppl off guard when they think they'll smoke you and don't realize it's a 1000🤣
Not to say it wins all the time but gsxs1k is a fantastic bike. Gas tank could be bigger but idgaf. Best bike I've ever owned by far
i got one brand new this season!! love the katana and its a conversation starter for sure
@@watchmeflykids that's whassup. The 22 one? With the quickshifter? Wish the 20s had them😩
What year 750 did u have?
@@alexandertoback5553 k2 it was an older one. It was top end faster than the Katana though
@@NoLimitSquad no, i got a new 2020 they still had in stock, got a great deal on it. Im gonna put a quick shifter a tune and a full exhaust
I own a 2007 gas r 750. Love it
Nah. Still one of the best bikes on the market despite the stereotypical “squid” crap. Sound amazing, most comfortable and you still have power. Checks all the boxes. While others don’t.
Good engine they should use in different style, touring adventure Gsx S1000 or touring adventure Gsx S 750 .
In-line four touring adventure bike , 1000 cc and 750cc. Just like Kawasaki Versys 1000, triumph tiger ( triple) line up.
I believe the gsxs1000 is 148bhp at the engine not the wheel as you said, they normally lower the peak power for more usable torque.
Woke up to greatness
The gsxr1000k6 is the best bike I have ever owned and is my current bike still 👍🏼
Try the 2016 BMW s 1000 rr. In my opinion.... Best stock litrbike ever built. And fastest
@@christopheralonge7758 2013 and 2014 S1000RR HP4 roadlegal variants (212 hp) hands down crush the 2016 S1000RR (198hp). The HP4 variants have more power, they are lighter and they access all the power in all 4 riding modes, the 2014 HP4 has race-ABS, and what you call a 2016 is actually a 2015 S1000RR because in 2016 no update was made, 2017 a non-road legal S1000RR HP4 was made (750 units), not even a specific standard S1000RR road bike for 2016 or 2017, the new standard one came in 2019.
@@christopheralonge7758 And if you want the Monster than it's a 226PS (222hp) S1000RR HP4 IImberger Carbon version
@@christopheralonge7758 Ilmberger Carbon Spezial - BMW M 1000 RR Straße
(check the 2022 video of the Carbon IImberger M1000RR). In the video they say they even have the parts to make a near full carbon version of it.
I still own mine bought new in 06,my daily rider,I have a bmws1000rr and an aprilia rf but love my k6 on the street
K5/K6 1000 is the last and best fully analogue Superbike you can buy. They will never make bikes like it again. If you own one, never sell it. Instead just add to your collection.
When does this channel ever going to test the Suzuki Katana ?
As the great Super⭐️Star Billy Graham said when he was the Heavyweight Champion “ I am the reflection of perfection”!!!!
I had a 2005 gsx years ago I miss it😭
Noti gang
I have a 2020 GSX-S
the throttle is a bit snatchy (not really a problem), and it's not the fastest, coolest or the best looking naked, but over all it's a great package for a great price
I have the 21 gsxs 1000 and the electronic throttle is spot on. Not snatchy at all. Test ride one mate.
I have a 2018 gsx s and the throttle is smooth as can possibly be very linear!
@@renegadep684 what engine oil do you use?
i would really like to join and be part of the community but i’d have to pay just to be in the discord server :(
The balls shaver is back! Nice retro feeling 🤣
This episode is full of squidery power
Waiting for himmy vs KLR
make a video on the FZ6
I have the new katana (gsxs1000s) and I love it.. crazy fun.
I have the exact k6 with a full Yoshimura system and a pc5 and it's a total squid missile fast as fuk!lol that gsxs reminds me of a boat anchor from a Japanese tuna boat lol
Was both motorcycle ecu flashed and dyno turned throttle % would be different if not and really can’t get the 100% power for the bike if you get 100% throttle in any gear and made play the the gearing you’ll get a better riding and throttle response from the bike try that
can you do a review on z900SE?
I own and love my GSXS 1000
I think Suzuki, more than any other manufacturer, would love to be pushing the performance boundaries year after year. But the reality is, that level of R&D is just too expensive to pay for with a product that sells in these limited quantities. It takes many years to recoup that investment if you are going to sell bikes like these in the everyman’s budget. I am just happy they have continued to build such high quality bikes that do hold up and pass the test of time. Yet still haul a**!
Wait what tips would Yammie frost? WHAT TIPS!?!?!?
If you look at the figures for the k5,k6 compared to modern 2022 200hp + bikes there isn't much difference. The quarter mile has the k5 faster than the new BMW rr1000
it comes down to power under the curve.
It's that no matter how much more power vehicles have now compared to before it is more about the electronics controlling that power than the person. And if one of these electric vehicles goes wrong with the torque and power they have the driver or rider will be dead. Anyway I'm showing my age but I'm seriously considering the new r7. Might only have 70hp but there no electronics controlling it. I could just ride and enjoy.
That's correct I own a bmws1000rr and an aprilia rf,k6 1000 still competes
@@skatman3872 because all the extra power is electronically controlled? Or the roads
@@rabfergy7155 I know but my bmws1000rr is real fast on slick mode,That's why racers remove them
So that k6 isn’t 100% sounds like it’s not pulling hard as it should imo. I bought one new and in first from 15mph up I had to lay on the tank to keep front wheel down or just ride wheelie tell end of gear and stand it back up in second from power alone from 60-125 no problem. I’m 6’4 230lbs.
I have a GSXR1000 and had a GSXS1000 which I sold recently. Personally, I loved riding them both but the GSXR, despite being ancient history is so much better. Sure the GSXS has more low down torque but it’s too snatchy. You get used to it and it was always fun to ride but once I got back on the GSXR and felt it’s smooth power delivery and feel through the front tyre, you realise that the GSxS is a lesser copy. Plus the buttons on the GSXS feel a little cheap. I had the PC5 on the GSXS and it was still a snatchy handful compared the GSXR. The GSXR is a comfortable sports bike and would be fine for long rides if that’s your thing.
A day without Papa Yams is like a day without sunshine.
You guys should do a review on cfmotos adventure 650. Their atv't seem great. Ill probly never own one of their bikes. But I'm curious if their bikes are on par with the rest of the market.
Looking at them on paper and considering the price I don’t know why anyone would touch one when the Japanese 650s exist.
Suzuki makes bikes that are meant to be bought brand new for $3k less than msrp. I've owned many Suzukis and they were all awesome bikes.
To be honest, the prices that Suzuki sets on these bikes, for that price, nothing can beat these bikes. And when you sit down and think that, you really do not need anything more that what these have, suddenly this becomes and prideful possession. Of course there are more reasons for us to always love the gixxers and gixxes's.
I've got both and the engine in the gsxs feel no where near as strong as the engine in the gsxr. Gsxr pulls way harder
Spite is gixxer bro now buddy. I'd say it's great as it is maybe get rid of emissions junk
They need to change the style of there headlight. I feel the bike would look better.
hey bro nice gsxr what year is it?
yes
I'm running a Gixxus. For $10K you can't go wrong.
front brake lines are all messed up on the gixxers. they don't go along the forks , get it right please.
was i the only one that had to watch that intro more then once...
when you guys are going to review the new gsxs1000
When does the giveaway like end? Or has it ended already?
Suzuki sells a ton of these. A rebuild will raise the price significantly and probably hurt sales. Just my guess.
2017 gsxr is nothing like the gsxrs before . Its miles better in every shape. Take it from someone who has had gsxrs for the past 20 years. New gen bikes from 2017 onwards. Better suspension. 200bhp. Variable valve timing. Cornering abs. And so on.... I have the 2018 rr and its up there with some of the best such as bmws and ducatis on the street at an affordable price . 👌
the GXS 750 was a real beuty
Naked bikes look horrendous 👎🏻
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I would go for the S 1000FA