GSX-S 1000's Battle it out on the Dyno with Unrestricted Flashed ECU - GSXS 1000
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Two friends brought in their Suzuki GSX-S 1000's into Moore Mafia headquarters to battle it out with their versions of the best exhaust and ECU Flash. Which one do you think sounds better???
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Chris thanks for describing and showing us what you do inside the ECU, there are a lot of tuners that keep that stuff secret. Got my first mail in flash from you about a month ago and you have a customer for life. Very happy with the results and quick turnaround!
Edit: Chris I think it would be very interesting if you could do a video on your story, how you got into bikes, racing, the ups, the downs, to where you are now.
Old dude here…the Yosh sounds great!
Prefer the sound of the Arrow/Yoshi bike and prefer its numbers too !
Good looking too love the carbon fiber and shape
These videos are great. It would be even better and a good selling point if you recorded the owner's reaction after they went for a quick rip up the street. The Wow factor :)
Long time Moore Mafia fan just snagged a 2022 GSXS1000. Its pretty nice.
Love my 16! Full exhaust w/ flash & steering damper and it completely changes the bike.
What steering damper did you go with? Now that Moore Mafia built my Gixxus, time to start on the suspension. 🤙🏽
I had the 2018 gsxs1000f in the UK. My top speed was maxed at 159mph. So getting 170+ is amazing for this bike.
These sport tourers like this and the Ninja 1000SX are limited by gearing and a governor. The 1000SX with exhaust/tune and longer gearing can hit 170 as well. Personally a big fan of these sportier sport tourers compared to a lot of the modern tourers which are basically ADV bikes with cast 17’s (looking at you Versys). I like having a little forward lean, and these style bikes feel a little better in a corner.
Unpopular opinion but I prefer the F over the S
Angry Bird face. That was my impression when they first released it.
Same… but I mean…I own one 🤣
The new GT is nt favorite so far.
Me too
Looks like Chris is right, he can't get nearly the hp out of the new gsx-s as he can these old(er) models. He suggested cans might be smaller, etc. Solid bikes but I'll take my mt10 any day.
Those K5 based Suzukis sound so good!
Im a west coast rider.. don't be surprised to have my bike show up at your place someday...you are the best...and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us...
How could anyone live with that M4 system? And the pops and bangs. Crazy! Great video though. Love it.
I’m 12k miles in on my 2021 ZX6R tuned by MooreMafia and the bike is running amazing. Pulls so hard and sounds so good, great job once again Chris.
Bigger not always is better, you can put giant diameger headers, but if the head and valves cant breath more air, the result is less hp.
I'm running the M4 w/MM flash tune on my 18 s1000.. absolute beast mode. If your on the fence don't hesitate.
Thanks again Chris 🤙
How long did it take for you to get the ecu back?
@@JordanMac79 5 days total from the time I sent it till it got back.
Those b4 & after top speed runs 🏃♂️ 👍🏽👍🏾.. Great addition to the vid.
Sooo much knowledge and experience in these vids!! I learn something new every time. I personally like when my bike doesn’t have that back fire noise like that. Makes me feel like something’s wrong. One or two is nice but that much is not for me. Keep up the vids!!!
My mechanic friend tries to minimise backfiring when he does tuning spreadsheets .
Been waiting for this.. sending in my ecu this summer. GSXS-1000Z
Love the M4 exhaust but I am a little biased as that is what I'm running on my S1000...those gains seem to be a little low for the M4 but that may be due to the tire also. When I had mine tuned it woke the bike up tremendously and turned it into a beast.
Been running into these S bikes. Great upgrades 🤘
LOOOOOve mine!
@@cdnbcn6164 my Street fighter would woop yours. Don't believe come 🏁race me chump✌🤯🚀🤔🔥👊💯🤪
Nice Video on the Comparison, I always wanted to Know if there was a Way to See what Exhaust Setup was Better, If only there was a Way to Compare on 1 bike with 6 different exhaust on the same tune. That would be good to See.
Never understood why saying GSX-S is so difficult. No one had any trouble saying GSX-R. Is it the "X" and the "S" being so close together?
Love the way that 999cc idles after the tune. Bluuupbluuupbluuupbluuupbluuupbluuup
lol....True story
Its the sxs brain fart tongue twister
@@bandanamuzic Why didn't Suzuki just swing their Bandit name right on over and quit the alphabet soup? Bandit was such a great name for a motorcycle.
@@exothermal.sprocket Bandit is sooo 1970's ish... No go
@@bandanamuzic Bandit was so 2007-2016 actually. After full exhaust and tune, that big 1255cc engine made 129 horsepower and 94 ft-lb at the wheel. Torque was just wild. Made around 82 ft-lb torque at about 2500 rpm, just crazy torque. Engine was smooth as butter and pulled like a turbine engine.
Wish Japan would turn out some 1200cc+ 4-cylinder naked bikes, inexpensive without all the fancy superbike nannies, for the common buyer. You cannot get an inexpensive big-cubes 4cylinder anymore. All that's available is FJR1300, Hayabusa, ZX-14R. That's it. Everything else is 1,000 cc and needs to be revved like mad to make torque and power. The days of feeling like a V8 is shoving you below 4000 RPM? They don't exist anymore, outside $18,000 and a lot of aftermarket tuning.
great things done .. the constant pops sound annoying imo, for once or twice its ok but constantly being there would drive me nuts, dont need the attention either ..
maannnnnnnn my bike really cool to had the BOSS Mr MOORE online today, can't wait to see how my bike works when i get back my ecu from you guys, great job MOORE MAFIA
You know I am down with the M4 Supa
I have the 2018 1000F model and would love to have this done to my bike
Love the insight of tuning. I opted for no pops on my cbr. Gave me a headache very quickly. Pair valve delete much prefered. Dont mind the cracks on up/ down shift but constantly i feed abit much.
This gives me hope for the new sport touring model they just came out with.
That Yoshi gave a lovely smooth noise!
Mechanics never heard of gloves. Only issue with doing a dyno is the head has to cool before removing bolts. Heat causes metal to expand cold causes it to retract to keep temp. Threads don’t like being super tight.
Love those bikes ,great video
I watch all of your videos. Got a gsxs 1k also. Live n Columbia SC. Already did CS full exhaust just need your magic touch on flashing my ECU. Was going to mail but think imma just drive to you and drop it off. Remember name Mcclinton 👍
COOL VIDEO! I HAVE A HINDLE EXHAUST ON MY F MODEL (FLASHED/TUNED) AND IT SOUNDS INSANE!!!
Got video or dyno graphs or anything? Post on gsxs1000 forum?
@@Stclairm1 Yes its here on CZcams. Search "Hindle exhaust gsx-s1000" and you will see a video of me out front of our dealership doing a walk around etc.
@@Stclairm1 Here u go... czcams.com/video/ASlEhbQxzus/video.html
Biggest fan Powamoto is in the house so I brought all these thumbs ups for ya algorithms 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥
Put that 1000f nose cone on the naked would be so badass.
Wish you were closer. Have a 2018 GSXS F and going to put CS Racing exhaust on it have it tuned. Have to find someone local. Great video!
Once you get yours tuned and on the dyno can you post your numbers on here? Was thinking of the cs exhaust but wanted to see some numbers to see if it’s worth it
@@TheTyrone1981 I believe Moore Mafia has a video of the gsxs1000 with that exhaust getting tuned. Search their CZcams page.
@@brandandillon1517 thanks I appreciate it. Yea I found it. Doesn’t seem
To perform as well as some of the other big name exhaust companies but it’s all good. Still made decent power and looks way better than the others in my opinion
Big gains ❤ what you do.
170 on my GSXS would be absolutely terrifying lol.
Awesome Man!!! Love it
What happened to mike he’s been gone for the past couple videos?
The gsxs are stupidly comfortable but it’s ultimately a rip off on the B king it’s funny to me how the Bkings failed to sell back in 08 when naked bikes weren’t popular but now everyone wants the naked bikes I highly doubt Suzuki would ever remake the kings but they would sell them now
Mike is no longer there. Don't know the story
Ive been trying to decide what exhaust for mine. Im definitely going with the M4
Put mine on after breakin...LOVE IT!
Go with Hindle!
M4 baby!!
@@rickspicsonline need to see some Hindle results and actual header design.
Have you ever done the ecu on a ducati monster 1200r, I am led to believe as standard they have 160bhp.
That Arrow and Yosh combo sounds supreme. Good job on the install. Out of 3 brands would you say that Arrow, Akro, or Yosh has the best fit and finish? Can you offer me your opinion on Vandemon? Thanks!
I really like this 2022 HAYABUSA And the contest of the your CZcams channel is very nice the content wont get any other CZcams channels i am really a greate lover of the 2022 hayabusha it is my bream bike
Love the videos! Can't wait to see a 2022 Hayabusa get unlocked!
I love the noise!!!!! M4 baby!!!!!!
Nice video. Seems like a little fuel spraying would be safer for the engine, keep it "wet". Dang yall backed up out the door with bikes. I'm still bringing my 14 down. Let someone borrow my trailer and haven't got it back
Take them racing 🏁
noise is good! i will be sending my ecu to you!
No noise. It defeats the gun fire microphones.
Who won on the street competition between these two. I own a GSXs 1000. Sending the ECU down on Tuesday.
Hope you can do the new 2022 gsxs-1000 Unrestricted Flash soon :D
Awesome video
Still waiting for a K7 SV1000S!
Kawi power!!!
I prefer the bang option, unfortunately I am in England or I would be getting mine done by you
hi Chris! I have a gsx1000 s 2020. Best Regards from Spain!
I have a GSXS1000 with a yoshimia muff it sounds like the stock muff, if you just pull the muff its not much louder, do you guys sell the box delete pipe !
I have the same identical bike 2018 Suzuki GSXs 1000f M4 exhaust and headers but I definitely need that ECU flash I will settle for 170 mph considering this being my first bike 😎
adding a rider and wind resistace will see that theoretical top spped drop dramaticaly... !! and you really wouldn't enjoy 170 on a naked with budget suspension!
@@ianmurray3820 that does make sense 💯
Man I really want to get my ecu flashes by you!!! I’m actually on vacation with the fam and I’m 1hr away from your shop but I didn’t bring my ecu 😭
Stupid
The GT sounds like it has a police magnet!
Channel should be called Moore Dyno 🥱😴💤🛌
why would they put the coolant directly on top of the headers? defeats the purpose
I have a 2012 gsxr 750 and was thinking about doing the cat delete but I don't have a ECU flash or tune so will I have any issues or check engine light on also have a m4 slip on exhaust
No fi light because of it, but you'll be giving up 5-7hp and the drivability sucks before the flash.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS I'm not to worried about giving up 5-7hp just really want to open it up and let it breathe better so in the end I'll give up that hp for being restricted with having the cat removed from the bike and really just didn't want the fi light on
F puts down way more hp too, just check out Chris's pulls with the new bike🙄.
great content really enjoy
I like the popping . Both bikes are very nice 👍.
Chris I love your show the videos are great, I have the 2016 gsx S-1000f with 5400 miles what does the set up cost. From the headers with exhaust systems M4 and the ECU system.
Those are huge with that bike. it's apparently underrated at 150 hp crank. This must be pulling around 165 or 170 crank now
173 hp is series GSXR 2005 power
@@panamatic9537 you're mistaken. The most legendary 750 is the 06/07 model. The 05/06 was with the 1000
So now the mechanics have to go get the he bikes they gonna work on. 😂 I did all of that while running all departments. Lol
Are you changing the gears without using the clutch? Does the bike have a quick shifter?
M4 sounds fantastic. Llllllllooooovvveee the backfiring
What is your most favorite sounding bike sir ? You have tested so many bikes throughout your life but there must be something which you prefer over everything.
Does a functioning pair valve affect the accuracy of the air fuel ratio when tuning?
The only function of the PAIR valve is to feed a catalytic converter with fresh O2, which enters the exhaust system post-engine. Remove the Cat, the PAIR serves zero function. Some people leave them installed which continues to fill the exhaust with O2 even after tune, after O2 sensor code removed, after cat removed. It creates combustion noises in the exhaust (popping and crackling when the throttle is closed). Chris would have to confirm whether the sniffer in the exhaust is affected (mapped air/fuel curve on the dyno) with the PAIR still flowing O2 into the exhaust. I believe it would be. He might be compensating one way or another.
I was just considering buying one of these. I’m older and don’t need cutting edge horsepower of the GSXR . Corn Pops for me. What was the torque differences ? Were they comparable to HP differences?
Believe me, the horsepower this bike makes is plenty. I just don't feel more than 150 horsepower is very usable without being hunched over holding clipons and having your butt in the air. The comfy naked bike makes holding on difficult with a ton of power.
@@exothermal.sprocket so knowledgeable bro 👊
@@powamoto I've demo'ed this bike several times in the 1st iteration when it came out. Loved it, but it had some glaring flaws. Those have been totally fixed now.
@@exothermal.sprocket that's cool 😎bro I'm glad to see you enthusiast about your whip my kinda dude 🤘🚀💯✊👍😇🙏💥
It will be August before I can get one. Seen 6 sport bikes riding this weekend, it’s a buzz to hear these guys rolling by . Amazing sound from a pack of high winding machines. Busa, Gsxr, R1’s
Bring the noise cuz race bike
Great video! What horsepower do you normally see on a gen 4 ZX-10r with a full exhaust or cat delete?
I had your tune on my 17 FZ10. I sold it to order a 22 GSX-S1000GT. Let me know when you have a tune or if I can bring it to you. I should have it in a week or so.
Great video's. Love the drag racing. You should try racing with turns. It last longer. 😆
So i have 16gsxs1000f and all i would need to do is mail you ecu and youd be able to flash without fuel tuning? or since you have done similar in past will fuel tuning for others be same for mine?
so it looks like the older gsxs' are more powerful than the newer one.
2016 ,2018 s1000 after ecu flash power diffrence?
Got a 2019 Katana, same engine same configuration as the gsxs, I'm concerned if my mpg will suffer after tuning, since it's a 12L tank on the Kat
my range is about 120miles/tank now, any lower it'll be ridding the bike 😅
arrow and yoshimura !!!!!!!!
HELP ME PLEASE!? I'm buying the 2023 GSX-S1000 I've been looking for the Yoshi muffler/pipe in this video and can't find it even on the Yoshimura website??? I want this exact setup (Yoshi pipe with arrow headers) or this Yoshi pipe with yoshi stainless headers??? CAN ANYONE HELP? I'm in Australia. I want to put the system on then send my ECU into Moore Mafia. Also recommended air box and filter alterations for the above GSX-S1000 naked???????
Edit - can find a Yoshi muffler on their website for my model but it looks completely different to the one in this video...
Im just curious but will those arrows fit with a m4 go slipon ?. Its for a gsxr 600
these bikes got the same engine orginal?
Good stuff
If there different years older ones less hp..by few.
2016-17 Gsx s 1000 /f makes 4 to 5 hp less than 2018 on up... In 2018 Suzuki added Vent holes between the SCEM-plated bores to reduce pumping losses. Thats the difference in the 2 bikes 🏍, white bike is 2017
What a great eye I was thinking the same thing....still both beautiful bikes I got a 2018 myself
what is the SCEM-plated where is it ? i have 2016 model can i change 2016->
2018
@@user-ye6gc7iv1w you would have to swap the whole motor.
@@bandanamuzic whole swap.. oops.. then 16-17 s1000 k5 engine 2018-2022 k8 engine?
@@user-ye6gc7iv1w 2018- 20 gsxs1000 engine
I've done 164 on a naked EBR "indicated". Not a fun time, any thing over 145 155 is really not that fun on a naked.
I had152mph gps tested, like you 164 indicated on my naked hitting the rev limiter
@@alanpark7839 I wasn't even close to Rev. It has same gearing as the full faring that went 187.
Does the ct titanium headers fit with a penta carbon
Is your ecu flash also got for a bike in Europe at sea level??
Hello Chris
My name is Joe I have a 2016 Suzuki Gsxs s 1000 and I would totally like you to remove some restrictions from my bike. Where are you located to hopefully take it up there and do your dials on it I just became a new subscriber
Welcome to the party. You can find out all the details on us and the ecu flashing on the website.
www.MooreMafia.com
I've been watching your videos and seeing how the stock ECU computer restricts a lot of the power of the bike. I'm thinking of someday looking into getting the full exhaust from the M4 . From what I saw on your video it sure make a lot of differences between the stock one.
@@TeamMooreMafia
I was thinking taking out the silencer from the stock exhaust. Do you recommend it off
If it's to big then a turbo would help ? 😄
First!! Love your videos brother
Not big fan for pops and bangs
Does the pops and flames not hurt the motor? 🤔
I wouldn’t think so because it’s all in the exhaust.
Why do you prefer Suzuki over any other brand? Just curious...
My second bike. I'm seriously thinking about going with a 636. Give me a full mod list that would go great for performance.
Or Gixxer 1000?
Again, can you give me a list of mods that is for performance based?
Thank you
More power, more reliable, more raw, better value
@@SkateAndReview thank you. 👍
Both are great bikes all depends on your personal preference on feeling really. Do you have a lot of experience riding?
@@R6marcus thank you for the reply.
I have a ninja 650 for my first bike I have almost 6k on it bought it brand new n April of 2021 never been dropped.
No back firing. Lol
Let's goo first baby