Sins of a Solar Empire | the Campaign We Never Got
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
- Sins of a Solar Empire (& SoaSE Rebellion) is one of the few games that has no story mode to speak of. Sins is also one of the few games that actually HAS a story even though there is no story mode. In this video, we'll go over just what that story is and through that, learn of the campaign we never got.
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Chapters:
00:00 The History of Strategy
01:30 What is Sins of a Solar Empire
07:44 10,000 Years Before the War
11:27 1,000 Years Before the War (TEC)
14:35 1,000 Years Before the War (Advent)
16:02 The War
19:26 The War Expands
23:00 Rebellion (TEC)
23:50 Rebellion (Vasari)
24:32 Rebellion (Advent)
25:12 Outro - Hry
I think that Sins is one of the more underappreciated games out there. I would have killed for a campaign mode. But, before that, I would have loved for Ironclad to have re-optimized the game. I adore playing Sins, but no matter the rig you run it on, the game will inevitably turn into an unplayable lagfest, right as your empire begins building momentum. The larger the map and more entities, the worse the lag apocalypse and the sooner it arrives.
The game was written for 32 bit and as such can’t use more than 2gb ram.
I don't have issues in single player as long as system cursor is selected otherwise it stutters. Multiplayer I don't know about though.
There’s been an official patch for more ram
@@Vortex-295 I'm fairly certain I've tried that patch. I always found that the problem wasn't so much the RAM as it was the difference in how CPUs are constructed now as compared to when SINS first came out. The game architecture was never designed to take advantage of multiple COREs on the CPU. Multi-threading just wasn't a thing back then. So it dumps all it's data into a single core on the CPU so the whole thing bottlenecks and gets throttled when the number of entities gets crazy. The biggest issues are the AI and pathing routines. Tweaks to those should help, but really the only true "fix" would be a redesign of the algorithms from the ground up.
I don't think it'd underappreciated. I'd say it's too unknown by most because of its niche genre
But those who know it, most think it's a good game
Mod community is one of the best parts of Sins
If I didn't already own this and have over 200 hours into the game, I would totally buy it after watching this video.
IKR!
What a game!
if sins 2 gets a campaign at any point it should end with the three factions joining against the ones chasing the vasari
They seem to be implying that the threat the Vasari are running from will be an inclusion in the 2nd game
@@Omgazombie2k yes forsure but probs during after release in a update or dlc/expansion
@@Omgazombie2k Where did they imply that?
Or maybe just a reveal of it
@@obyone878 they imply it not fully but state it is set in the future after the events of rebellion and that a new unknown enemy may appear in it but they did not say how or when but given that the ships we see seem to be alot more advanced it could be taken in that the factions from the first games as a whole are not at war in a full scale now only dealing with smaller groups of each not wanting to join forces so we may start mopping them up and then having all factions and sub-factions come together when the larger enemy show up later in the game or in future dlc
TEC: Yeah we just wanna trade, we don't really care how you govern yourselves
Also TEC: Forcefully exiles Advent because of how they govern themselves
Those darn Psychic Druggo Space Commies! They were being all hip and shit!
Yeah but the advent committed acts of genocide and human sacrifice
@@PlagueRunner
Before or after the war?
@@DCdabest Before, that's why the TEC exiled them
I can't seem to find any references to that.
What the TEC were really abhorent of seems to be the widespread use of neural implants and psytech technology along with few taboos relating to drug use.
Where does it say that it was for human sacrifice?
"Our titan has taken heavy damage!"
"Our Capital Ship has been lost!"
"Our Titans Shields have failed!"
One Of Our Planets Have Been Silenced
@@cmsx1016Yeah... they are always down, it's fine! Hull is regenerating. You don't need to keep telling me!
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This so literally amazing like wtf? You’re voice sounds like a professional documentary narrator! And this video is so amazingly produced and explained very well! You’ve got yourself a sub!
Wow, I remember when this game came out. Back when Maximum PC magazine still existed. Not only would the campaign have been awesome to play, but it also likely would have strengthened the IP and increased the potential chance for future games in that universe.
i think the trailer intro of this game is so incredibly interesting and rich in lore that it just makes you desire a full game, full movie, full tv show. there would be such vast lore. if i could dump 500 million dollars i would make this a movie franchise and it could very well stand with star wars and star trek.
your video is just great. especially the going on and on at the end. makes it seem like you are passionate about this topic and as if 2 friends let a conversation naturally fade out in the end.
your voice and audio quality is incredible maybe you could give me some tips on how you record audio.
i loved the coubbled together footage of sins endless space ect. to underline your story telling visually.
i do strongly belive that videogame lore is something with massive growth potential long term on youtube. because every day tens of thousands of people join the videogame community.
you could be like a internet historian for this kinda stuff.
i will check out your channel and be a loyal subscriber from now on. the story of this game allways was on my mind. i never bothered enough to research into it instead i just made up the rest in my dreams. i am playing it right now finishing my last steam trophy (complete 30 missions) then i have 100 percent completion within 900 hours of game time
I'm still hoping for a sequel.
Been playing this game since 2008. I was only 14, I'm 26 now and still playing
Well, you got it.
Still the best 4x game I've ever played. Achieved 500 hrs of playtime and 98% achievements on Steam.
Have you 100% yet?
Mod support for the game was and still is a massive part of why the game still has an active cult following. In my opinion the sins series especially sins of a solar empire rebellion is the best RTS 4x game ever made I've literally put well over 1500 hours into the games and still not bored because every game is different and this doesn't even include the mods which adds to the game indefinitely.
Great video! Man I wish we would get a Sins of a Solar Empire 2. Even though what ever the Vasari are running from has been built up to be a massive threat if there was a Sins 2 I'd like to see them become the 4th faction.
Granted. You have 2 wishes left.
Good news, everyone! Stardock just recently announced Sins 2 is in production, and is expected to hit Steam as an Early Access title some time in 2023.
0:13 The APM count of Starcraft would suggest otherwise.
but since we are on the Topic of Strategy games that came out a while ago. Star Wars: Empire at War got an official patch to assist the modding community which keeps the game going.
Fascinating how the Vasari empire was dismantled by a horrific eldritch threat that instilled insanity in its victims. This makes me think of the Flood from Halo.
I could see that. It also reminds me of the Reapers from Mass Effect.
There’s a lot of implications that the eldiritch threat used some kind of telepathy. I always believed that the enemy is what turned the pacifist exiles into the Advent. The backstory of the Advent Rebels seems to back this up, referencing an infection in the Unity that caused them to turn to vengeance.
If anything, I almost want to say the threat is something akin to the Unknown Enity from the last three books from “The Expanse” (the entity that destroyed the Protomolocule creators), but I’m also wondering if the writers were fans of SoaSE and were inspired by the unknown enemy.
What a great video! I've been playing Sins for years, and have never seen any video channels devoted to telling the story, or really anything about it.
From time to time you'd see some gamer/CZcamsr make a video about Sins, but nothing really substantial like this. Very well done!
- Also - The ARE making a Sins-2 game, and I believe it's supposed to be out this year (2024)!
Really good video - Thanks for this!!
Sins 2 was just announced and though im sad to see they wont have a campaign, I bet we can all agree that this is a great day
Oh hey, I've had this game for a long time and never actually played it.
Maybe I should finally give it a chance.
If you message me on steam @Caricifus I'll play with you!
SoSE was a great game, I played it to death when it came out. Or rather it played me to death. A single game taking four days was just a bit too much in the end.
Regardless, your story explanation was very interesting, and it does give some much needed context. I agree, a campaign mode with this story would've been an excellent addition to the game. I remember playing a metric fuckton of Galactic Civilizations back in the day, all three games. Thats a 4X game that did story campaigns pretty darn well while also providing an excellent sandbox mode. Also Endless Space 2 from recent memory, where you can stumble upon quest chains where you can influence the outcome based on your decisions and even receive powerful buffs for your empire. I didn't care much for the shoehorned Academy missions, which can make or break games regardless of your strategic prowess, but I digress.
It's a shame there are so few entries in the strategy genre in recent years, I especially miss RTS games a lot. I hope they'll make a comeback someday.
I bought this game as a spontaneous purchase. Omg one of the absolute best RTS games I've ever played....and that was just the base game wayyy before rebellion came out
for the algorithm! love your vids man.
Impressive work. I found your channel from the Kenshi video. I think you give give Raycevick and GVMERS some much needed competition. Also the algorithm
Didn't the "Homeworld" series have a very strong following? Those games had the absolute best storyline for the space-based RTS's out there.... Gamers like a good story, and when your game is literally a space epic, you can't just.... not have the story included (and having it as a background to why you're fighting isn't the same!).
Really hoping these get a remake/sequel.
Great video, subbed.
Came to see this after your most recent video, I didn't get a notification for this video so the algorithm was messing with you.
Ugh... Great... Thanks for letting me know, man.
There’s no way you have less than 3k subs, wtf
New channel, but an absolutely well done video.
Been a year and I’m still angry
Rather than a campaign an HFY/NFY web story series on this would be epic. Especially with the looming unknown threat somewhere out there hiding and sending those who encounter them into complete madness.
For a sequel, going with the Vasari Rebel Path sounds extremely interesting. Enemies for decades, banding together in the face of an existential Horror we cannot even comprehend...
Nice video, now i know the lore alot better then i did
so basicly the TEC "won" unlike the other powers they were playing an Infinite game with the objective being to simply survive, and by Rebelion they had done that and were fighting among themselves on how they wanted their victory to look. where as the other factions were ether tearing its self apart in the case of the Advent or freaking out in case of the Vasari.
its interesting i still have to side with the TEC loyalists but I would have rebel sympathys
Actually they all lose if whatever is "chasing" the Vasari catches up to them. Whatever it is seems easily powerful enough to stomp all 3 factions
@@synysterwolf1289 Yeah I kind of hope that it is another race in the sequel but sounds like that might not be as they are doing the 3 same factions.
Maybe the TEC loyalists supported Advent and Vasari rebels to try to end the war. All three are interested in peace, so they would be able to form a coalition against the unknown enemy.
@Mitchell , Your content is fantastic and so well composed. I hope that life allows you to continue making truely outstanding content. the first video i watched was the making of Kenshi, a game i hold very close to my heart and it was very emotional seeing someone go to such length to get the story out there, and once again, in great quality. I subbed immedietly and started watching this.
Cheers, and here's to the next great upload.
As others have said, very much an underrated game. The lack of a campaign never really bothered me. Great video BTW.
I hope the youtube gods bless you with youtube algorythm man you deserve alot more views
I think what the Vasari are running from would be something similar to like the Tyranids in 40k if you read any of the codex the Tyranids are coming from beyond the known galaxy and there path of destruction is horrifying,
If there is another sins I hope I’m includes this mystery race as well as everything in there previous games
Awesome video awesome game one of my favorites. Thank you for the video!
A good story well told. Much appreciated. Regarding a possible SOASE 2... I guess I would envision something like Warcraft III. Maybe some in-fighting between the existing factions at the start of the campaign, with the Unknown Threat being like the Burning Legion that they all set aside their differences to defeat. Whether they would be playable or not I have no idea. I have a hard time believing they'd add different races other than the Unknown Threat, because it seems like it would be hard enough just to add a fourth without redundancy or balance breaking issues.
Postnote: Love the game, but it takes me like a week to finish one skirmish, and I play alone. Capturing footage for all this must've been a grind. Sympathies.
Wow, this channel needs more attention. Content is great!
Put this video of till I had free time. This is great!
I must say, only having lightly played this game mostly for the Halo mod since I love the Halo ships and hate how little attention they get I was surprised out fun this game was. When I first played I was a little overwhelmed and didn't play for a while. Now that I have truly played the base game I realize how haven't I played this before? To me this game while being 4X feels a lot like a classic RTS with fleet building and turtling and tech trees. However, my favorite feature of this game that surprisingly no other game has is civilian/non-player yet same faction ships. Seeing actual transports come out of trade hubs and travel between systems, ore barges going between miners, It made the universe feel alive. My favorite however was the friendly pirates' feature, where controlled systems with enough culture could raise their own ships to defend and attack.
Now I hear about this interesting lore where an ancient powerful race is feeling from a completely unknown yet terrifying mystery force, how can I not be interested! I really hope in the sequel they announced this story is finally explored and expanded.
So sad it never came to a conclusion
Sins Was a pretty good game and a story mode would have made it better. I will always be of the opinion that even RTS games should have a story mode. I mean look at homeworld, a great space RTS with a great story that even 20 years later, no space RTS has managed to even match.
great video.
i could see that you love the franchise very much with how passionate this project is feeling.
great video ! loved to listen to the lore of the game that i didnt know about in so many years
the intro does imply the vasari activated some kind of device that started all of this, what this event they triggered could be could be anything. but what ever it is, does appear to be something like vacuum decay? this is a bubble that will continue to expand indefinitely at the speed of light, anything within its influence defies the nature of physics, chemistry its self could either cease to function all together, but the for the sake of making a interesting story and a potential new threat. perhapes the vacuum decay alters physics and chemistry anything and anyone inside becomes twisted and corrupted, and those inside become a whole race of its own, maybe biological terrors or some such that inhabits within so there are new adversarys to deal with when the main factions figure out a way to go inside of this growing bubble to try put a stop to it. and at the rate of this expansion would take about 100'000 years to envelop the entire galaxy.
I'm so happy to find such a lore video! I adore this game, but it was lacking. Thanks for the content.
Amazing video dude
I really enjoyed this game, even though I am far more of a roleplayer than stragegist. Loved how you can pull out to see a huge picture, and push in to scope out an individual ship or structure. So cool.
this was amazing
And now we have Sins of a solar empire 2. And speaking to the devs they are talking about adding a Campaign as DLC. Whether they are being honest or they are simply trying to get us into EA we will see. Thanks for the Video. I miss the old manuals!
Thanks man! Great vid!
ah yes those 12 hour 6pm to 6am lan parties playing Sins of a solar empire rebellion. Good times 2010-2013 were good times.
Sins is a one of the last space games that actually use the space opera theme well. There's room for tons of character and plot, just as much as Star Wars and Dune has. I hope Sins 2 does make an attempt at it, since by now we have to see what the great enemy is.
I noticed the factory footage from Halo Landfall.
Impressive. Most impressive.
So a Teaser for Sins of a Solar Empire 2 just dropped. hopefully we will finally get a good look at whatever has decimated the Vasari. Hopefully it is more than just a Borg like or Undine Fleet of Overpowered Ship. I would really appreciate some formless singular entity. Something like that V'Ger Cloud from the Star Trek Motion picture movie.
Ive come to announce that,
THE CAMPAIGN IS REAL
I want the campaign to start more or less where the story left off. The narrator of the cutscenes says he has a son. I want the main character of the TEC to be that son, who would be in his 30s. He would just have finished his training and education and be admitted into the TEC as a captain of a capital ship. The first few missions would be about him retaking some Trade Order backwater planets and working up the prestige and rank to become an Admiral. Then the original narrator, his father, would be reintroduced and possibly killed in the war with the new enemy as their scouting missions turn into full blown invasions. From there, I would like it to be like Starcraft where you would play as the Advent and then as Vasari Allied with the TEC to take down the threat. Introducing sympathic new characters into the story. The Advent especially come off as being the petty villains of the story so it would be nice to see them actually doing some heroic deeds.
You writers need to stop with your sexual fetish for murdering parent. So bland and homogenous also almost /is politicians tiers degeneracy
I've sunk 1200+ hours in this amazing game and counting
Sins doesn't need a separate campaign like StarCraft, it should have an in-game set of faction-specific stories that would affect gameplay and lead to different victory conditions like Civ or Endless games.
Yeah i think their should be a campaign it would explain of who are the vassari’s worst enemy and what races they enslaved, how long the advent been advance for or how the TEC even began an how their politics worked or even if their were wars between worlds or at least minor skirmishes quickly dealt with through public, military or political ways to deal with infighting.
Sins is the only game where I wanted to play all factions. For other games I tended to play 1 or 2 factions at most.
As a Lakota Sioux person, it was weird seeing a council argue colonizer values in the opening 😅
Its really too bad there was never a campaign. I replay many of the old RTS games because I love their campaigns. Due to the lack of a campaign i have mostly forgotten Sins
Sins II coming baby
that campaign would have made a wonderful story. or even a book or TV series or something.
i get it, some games need stories, some don't need stories. some people really don't care about the story. but i care. the sins universe is an epic setting for an epic story. the end of that story could have been finding out the info on the vasari's ancient enemy. and that enemy could have been epic.
but whatever, it's an old game and nothing more will be done to it or that universe. it's done now
-edit- so about 2 minutes after i typed that, i found out sins 2 has a release trailer. well gosh darn, i'm wrong.
Yes. you are a Godsend
Great Video about the lore, which is sadly missing from this game...i have well over 2000hrs into this game and i agree a campaign would of been great, but this game like TES(bethesda) has an amazing mod community, with top quality mods (Star Trek Armada 3) (Star Wars Interregnum) are my personal favorites, but there is plenty more, halo mods, EvE online mods, Stargate mods etc. The mod community is what made this game last this long.
SoaSE II has been announced. Maybe we'll get it now?
To the people who go on about how "campaign is nothing but a long tutorial" - please stop. Gas is too expensive to gaslight in the current economy.
A campaign would have made Sins a far more popular and played game. Just like with SC2 / SC BW / AOE - a lot more people are likely to try the game even if they never intend to play multiplayer - then slowly try the multiplayer out and enjoy it. A lot more people would go back to the game to re-play the campaign, and stick around - again in multiplayer - after completing it for the 7th time. Campaign makes games a lot more memorable, replayable, and easier to introduce to new players. It's a royal shame this was not included in Sins, simply due to how awesome the game was in the first place, how much it could have added to the gameplay, and how few people played it compared to the potential the game had.
They are coming out with sins of a solar empire 2!!! I totally hope they show what was putting the aliens on the run and caused them to uproot
Sins 2 is coming
“Campaign’s are nothing more than long tutorials.” People actually think that? Bruh.
YO SINS 2 trailer DROPPED
What do you think the chances of a campaign are now that they've announced Sins 2? Great video btw, just saw it for the first time and I've always loved the background lore of the game, even if it's only background lol
Thanks.
And now even Sins 2 do not have a Campaign mode! God damn it, these stories are good, better than your usual CoD schlock etc, why can't we have it? It would be a damn good experience and hook some people who would otherwise give Sins a pass...
I so love this game. Hope they remaster it or make a new owe.
Sins 2 has been announced: hopefully it will add story elements we didn't get before...
Just leaving a comment for the algorithm, great video!
me too, I'm doing my part
It's great content, definitely worth our contribution
hoping the hidden enemies will be like "reapers" from mass effect
Would have loved to see them do an extra dlc where you see the new terror of the dark
This game shocked me for real. I never expect this "game" not to have an actual game included! It was my 1st game refund in life!
Hopefully the recently announced SOASE 2 Will have this backstory as a campaign. Then the progression would lead to all three races facing the hidden enemy... 🤔🤔🤔
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I'm one year late to this.
I also like to mention you forgot the PIRATE lore.
Lol I still play this game. The space rts only has few worth playing ones
Any chance you would make a sequel video since Sins 2 is coming out this summer on steam?
There dosent need to be a sins 2 just more dlc would be nice maybe a story dlc and new races dlc
And fleet expansion dlc things like this would be amazing
i still have the first sins and its addons on my computer have since they came out and added them to my steam games when they were added to steam so i did not have to rebuy them and i bought rebellion aswell i still play them at least once every few months for about a week of that month
Never heard of this game before
I wish Sins had some books or something
Anyone know what was chasing the vasari?
Yooo someone talking about sins in 2021!
Would be nice if you picked up your CZcams channel again with Sins 2! There’s some new lore to discover already, and I doubt there’s anyone in this niche (couldn’t find any at least).
As soon as you dial up the difficulty, the AI just rejects any diplomatic outreach for alliance and all gang up on you despite having a full Diplomacy/Culture tree:( I been playing this game for like ten years and just got into massive games against super hard AI opponents. I would like to report back from outer space that i'd like to please speak to the manager about this.
I mean, i really want to know what's going to happen with the mysterious enemy that destroyed the black fleet, even if the answer will probably be unsatisfying and anticlimactic, as all mysterious and horrorifying threats are when revealed
You deserve so many more subs. Sadly you have to cover trending gaming topics to get traction, I understand how that isn't always appealing
i like sins but i always hoped they would fix the scale of things. I mean titans larger than the star... Also why do the fleets always end up ramming each other..
The thing chasing away the Varsari refugee fleet is a "Great Old one". One look at a great old one is enough to cause terror and armies are useless against it. 10:03 To a Great old one, we are like the bacteria we wipe off our ass. Sure they are there, but there are more, and in the grand scheme of things, your former bacteria will be replaced and you have to go on about your day.
Birdbox is a great example of this, and when you think about it, it is true. We are puny, very short lives compared to the Universe.
i love playing campaigns i am not in to pvp anywayskrimish against is fine
I always made up my own lore as I played.
Come is multiplayer.