Premiums To Avoid January 2020

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • After my recommended premiums a vid like this was requested. Not showing gameplay as I don't really want to play these ships, just giving a brief overview of why I recommend avoiding the ships. Covering a few from each tier from T5 to T9. Also, 6500 followers away from 100k on twitch!
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Komentáře • 668

  • @Flamuu
    @Flamuu  Před 4 lety +82

    Less than 6500 Followers away from the 100k giveaway on Twitch! Hitting that milestone will let me give you guys some ridiculous amounts of stuff!
    Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu
    Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/
    Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz
    Discord: discord.gg/Flamu

    • @Jared-jrg-
      @Jared-jrg- Před 4 lety +1

      Congrats!!!

    • @EliteGeeks
      @EliteGeeks Před 4 lety +1

      i just followed on twitch

    • @musashiaerostar4409
      @musashiaerostar4409 Před 4 lety +2

      WHY ARE YOU TALKING BAD ABOUT HOOD WHY FLAMU

    • @jakenator7427
      @jakenator7427 Před 4 lety +7

      I bought the Texas to help the real life ship

    • @blackmancer
      @blackmancer Před 4 lety +7

      my huange he stats - 159 battles, 66.67% win rate, very good ship I would say.

  • @farts_loudly
    @farts_loudly Před 4 lety +851

    Thanks for listing my Santa Crate winnings

    • @timatreedg5340
      @timatreedg5340 Před 4 lety +13

      The video started on the Marblehead lima which I got in a crate after I already had a Marblehead from one last year. I was not happy with the crates this year. First time where I honestly didnt get my moneys worth. The biggest boat I got was Graf zepplin after over $250 in crates this year. The rest was pretty much the first few in this video.

    • @stevenmoore4612
      @stevenmoore4612 Před 4 lety +8

      It’s all about money! They game has you buy crates with all the crappy ships in them first so that you will keep buying more crates to get the better ships! I don’t waste money on those stupid crates anyway! I just feel like you have to play and earn to truly appreciate and enjoy the ships you have. Really that’s kind of the whole point of the game anyway, and buying crates is really cheating if you think about it!

    • @blueangels111
      @blueangels111 Před 4 lety +6

      Timatree DG I only spent $33 but that’s a lot on a game for me. All I really got was 500 doubloons. Other than that all I got was a bunch of crappy camos and useless signals. Crates have always been rigged but WOW this years felt so rigged

    • @tijmen131
      @tijmen131 Před 4 lety +2

      @@timatreedg5340 I have so many tier 5 and 6's I hoped to get juicy valuable drops now. Nope, wg added bad new shit. I did get lucky an for the 100 euro spent I got a Nelson and Atlanta, from the received gold I bought the Massachusetts and the Anshan

    • @shankly3462
      @shankly3462 Před 4 lety +1

      Yep same here I got three of them from Crates

  • @cruiserkoishi964
    @cruiserkoishi964 Před 4 lety +167

    Timestamps
    Marblehead 1:40
    Krasny Krym 2:15
    Genova 2:39
    Yahagi 3:02
    Viribus Unitis 3:15
    Huanghe 3:42
    Duca D D'aosta 4:25
    Prinz Eitel Freidrich 4:54
    Blyskawica 5:45
    Hood 7:09
    Gorizia 8:25
    Gascogne 9:25
    Vanguard 12:10
    Neustrashimy 15:25
    Azuma 16:33

    • @soffici1
      @soffici1 Před 4 lety +8

      At service to the community, Sir! o7
      Now I have an exact timeline of the ships I’ve found in the containers I got for Christmas
      BTW I was lucky enough to get both the Marblehead and the Marblehead L...

    • @domitiusseverus1
      @domitiusseverus1 Před 4 lety +1

      Antonio Soffici yep. I know your pain - except I got Murmansk as well!

    • @mwnciboo
      @mwnciboo Před 4 lety +4

      @@domitiusseverus1 Murmansk is quality. Blaskawyica ain't bad.

    • @soffici1
      @soffici1 Před 4 lety +3

      Domitius Severus oh, I got more and better ships, too. The overlap between my list and Flamu’s shit list is almost 100%.
      It’s just that my list is longer...

    • @erikglas2
      @erikglas2 Před 4 lety +1

      In my experience gorizia is not half that bad of a warship. German hydro on a tier 7. AP packs some damage on broadside BB and SAP while situational is effective

  • @SilverShamrockNovelties
    @SilverShamrockNovelties Před 4 lety +532

    I just bought all of those ships.

    • @MrX-un8cz
      @MrX-un8cz Před 4 lety +30

      F

    • @britmachine722
      @britmachine722 Před 4 lety +32

      r/madlads

    • @Battlemage15
      @Battlemage15 Před 4 lety +21

      Were you hunting the Rare Ships as well my fellow Whale?
      Because I have them all too now... but man, Musashi and Missouri sure makes it sting less.

    • @owo5869
      @owo5869 Před 4 lety +1

      They just don't hit as hard as the others.

    • @imamrka1
      @imamrka1 Před 4 lety +1

      Collector!

  • @richieThach
    @richieThach Před 4 lety +420

    1. Marblehead 1:39 (no armor, limited range)
    2. Krasny Krym 2:16 (slow, poor concealment, poor artillery)
    3. Genova 2:42 (huge citadel, long reload, bad damage output)
    4. Yahagi 3:03 (poor artillery)
    5. Viribus Unitis 3:16 (bad HP,)
    6. Huang He 3:43 (bad HP, slow, poor artillery)
    7. Duca D'Aosta 4:27 (poor artillery)
    8. Prinz Eitel Friedrich 4:54 (lacks turtleback and armor, poor HE)
    9. Blyskawica 5:47 (power-creeped due to stealth fire change, poor concealment)
    10. Hood 7:12 (poor DPM, alpha, pen, bad at uptiers, bad turning)
    11. Gorizia 8:27 (poor AP DPM, long reload, lacks torpedoes or fire ability, bad AA and concealment, poor protection)
    12. Gascogne 9:25 (bad protection due to 32mm armor, poor artillery and dispersion)
    13. Vanguard 12:10 (bad protection due to 32mm armor and citadel, bad firing angles, poor AP pen)
    14. Neustrashimy 15:27 (bad firepower, better options available)
    15. Azuma 16:34 (bad protection due to 25mm armor and citadel, mediocre artillery)

  • @victorskwrxsti7899
    @victorskwrxsti7899 Před 4 lety +95

    I just realized this and “top 10 prem ship” vids can be used as “how to fight against these ships” vids.

  • @77RJ777
    @77RJ777 Před 4 lety +168

    The video should be retitled to "The Ships You Will Get From Santa Crates"

    • @warpman
      @warpman Před 4 lety +5

      Huanghe, Krasny krim... damn, yeah, the shit-containing containers

    • @frreeebird3504
      @frreeebird3504 Před 4 lety +4

      Yup, got the Huanghe from my Santa Crates...typical WG BS.

    • @stevenbeasley24
      @stevenbeasley24 Před 4 lety +1

      My experience too.

    • @brilliantlysplendid
      @brilliantlysplendid Před 4 lety +4

      “The ships you’ll get from flamu’s 100k giveaway” lol

    • @77RJ777
      @77RJ777 Před 4 lety +3

      Just got Marblehead and Krispy Kreme. FML

  • @Darksniper018
    @Darksniper018 Před 4 lety +11

    I actually like the Viribus Unitis alot. The damage you can make is just extreme in Tier 5. You can One Shot any Cruisers and some of the BB if they show Broadside. Its my guilty pleasure :3

  • @irocladdreadnought
    @irocladdreadnought Před 4 lety +32

    Almost all those ships are my go-to premiums for their tiers. Love a good challenge

    • @LogoShot0514
      @LogoShot0514 Před 4 lety +6

      Krasny Krym and Huang He are your go to ships? Good luck mate lol

    • @captainbejo3513
      @captainbejo3513 Před 4 lety

      Darnath Lysander agreed, it makes you a better player by using some of these ships, my fave CA is that Huangue (spelling), i get decent credits with it (don’t know why he said it doesn’t do that) and I kill DDS and other light cruisers all day long in it.

    • @rexatimperator
      @rexatimperator Před 4 lety +1

      @@captainbejo3513 huanghe is not a CA, but a CL as it has 152mm guns. But I agree with you, I think huanghe is not that bad, decent AA for its tier, excellent concealment, and small profile, it's just like a Yubari with smoke. I just hope it has both hydro and torpedo booster on separate slot so that you don't have to choose.

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar Před 4 lety

      I really doubt they'd do hydro+torp boost separate that'd be pretty stronk.

    • @Empoleonman522the2
      @Empoleonman522the2 Před 4 lety +1

      I tend to do mediocre with my Kirishima. Meanwhile Oct Rev (actually good but hasn't exactly aged well) does decent and Viribus has a nasty habit of mauling hlaf the enemy team on her lonesome.....yes I flank with her you can do it because shes so slow (yet stealthy) that the enemy puts themselves in a crossfire for you to punish :D

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker01 Před 4 lety +25

    Remember playing Hood, coming around an island and finding a distracted Musashi at

    • @damiandorhoff719
      @damiandorhoff719 Před 4 lety +10

      It should be better now. WG changed the Ap from the Special short fuze Ap to the normal AP..
      I was never a fan of the short fuze ap because the Shells arm before they travelled trough the armor plate
      So Hood, Vanguard and Warspite have normal AP.

    • @la_potat6065
      @la_potat6065 Před 4 lety +2

      Damian Dörhoff you forgot Thunderer on that list with standard fuse.
      With that said Hood despite having the same gun as Warspite. Has very crap krupp values. It wasn’t the short fuse that prevented you citadeling a musashi but the pathetic penetration values.
      Short fuse AP can penetrate single layer belt armour scheme on ships just fine - its when against ships with turtleback or spaced armour layers - where the ap detonates too early before penetrating the citadel.

    • @damiandorhoff719
      @damiandorhoff719 Před 4 lety

      @@la_potat6065 Yes I forgot the Thunderer. Thanks

    • @TEGRULZ
      @TEGRULZ Před 4 lety

      That's weird, I've citadelled a Musashi before in a Monarch.

    • @la_potat6065
      @la_potat6065 Před 4 lety

      @@TEGRULZMonarch and Hood guns are not the same. Well same 380mm caliber and the trait of low Krupp values for the British, except Hood has an even lower Krupp value and worst pen than Monarch. So rly you citadeled a Musashi fine in a Monarch because it has much better pen than Hood.

  • @Unther
    @Unther Před 4 lety

    A good overview of premium ships with weaknesses. Some of those can be played quite successfully, so I wouldn't call them "useless", but you correctly pointed out the weaknesses and you correctly said that there are more powerful, similarly priced alternatives. Nicely done. :)

  • @patrikhellstrom4590
    @patrikhellstrom4590 Před 4 lety +71

    NICEEEE I GOT BOTH MARBLEHEAD AND THE KRASNY GRIM FROM THE SANTA CONTAINERS. ALL I EVER WISHED FOR:)
    edit: oh my lord I ALSO GOT YAHAGI AND THE VIRIBUS FFS
    Also Huanghe, and the hood, and... the Vanguard.
    You were literally calling out my 'ships from containers' list.
    I spent way too much for this shit.

    • @patrikhellstrom4590
      @patrikhellstrom4590 Před 4 lety +3

      @Armadio I got the lenin and kii, dig them both. that's all the good i got lol.

    • @thiagodourado2692
      @thiagodourado2692 Před 4 lety +2

      Dude the best santa gift (also the only one I got for free) gave me 30 special flags knowing I could get a tirpitz or a musashi on it.

    • @fillmore8752
      @fillmore8752 Před 4 lety +1

      Vanguard is still good, i dont See a reason to rank her here. Ive bought her and she got me my most Krakens

    • @domitiusseverus1
      @domitiusseverus1 Před 4 lety +1

      Armadio Yeah - and I’m afraid to sell them as I’m sure I will get them gifted again next year!

    • @domitiusseverus1
      @domitiusseverus1 Před 4 lety

      Armadio LOL - Vespasian for me as you could probably tell

  • @repaleonhalo9754
    @repaleonhalo9754 Před 4 lety +3

    Poor Blyskawica used to be one of your favorites.. I played it yesterday the only annyoing thing is the torpedo angles

  • @johnskeels8498
    @johnskeels8498 Před 4 lety +16

    I hear nothing but negative comments from different CC about Huanghe, but I have to disagree.
    It sets fires like almost every volley and has extremely good AA.
    Despite having one turret less it outperforms both Perth and Leander in my experience.
    The only other ship on the list I have is Blys, and I reluctantly have to agree. It used to be one of my favourites, she now collects dust in the dry dock. Such a shame.

    • @Boekoe12
      @Boekoe12 Před 4 lety +1

      John Skeels i agree just got it for free and it rocks. Multiple 100k+ damage battles.

    • @VuHien2011
      @VuHien2011 Před 4 lety +1

      You have to explain to me how it outperform Perth. Same accuracy as Perth. I did check and they both have 2 .0 sigma. Rate of fire is 7 sec instead of 8 but has 2 less guns so it does not compensate for the lack of guns. Torps have same range. It has no spotter to extend its pitiful gun range. On the contrary of Perth, you cannot install the smoke upgrade.

    • @johnskeels8498
      @johnskeels8498 Před 4 lety +2

      @@VuHien2011 "In my experience"
      I set fires with almost every volley. Perth rarely does.
      I don' t use the spotter, I use the fighter.
      By 'smoke upgrade' do you mean the crawl smoke? HuangHe does get that.
      I hardly ever need the rear turrets when I use Perth/HuangHe
      So that is my personal experience. I don't say it suits everyone. Of the two ships HuangHe suits ME better.

  • @EA-History
    @EA-History Před 4 lety +9

    How about the newly released CV Indomitable? How would you rate it? I see many CCs don't like it, but I do consistently about 100k average in her, even breaking 200k.

    • @Mario-kf3ej
      @Mario-kf3ej Před 4 lety +5

      who gives a shit about CVs ... they could do 500k per game and I would still not play them because it's not warship gameplay. There is reason I don't have any Warplane game ... because if I wanted airplane gameplay I would install one of those.

  • @SurlyMike
    @SurlyMike Před 4 lety

    I love your commentary. It seems you have almost every premium out there. I only own the Ishizuchi and I don't even remember how I got it. I am a new subscriber and just finished watching both of your best/worst videos and looking to buy my first premium DD, thank you.

    • @tiaandeswardt7741
      @tiaandeswardt7741 Před 4 lety +2

      If you can save up 375k free exp, you can buy the Nelson. It is a really nice tier 7 premium British BB. You can also get your hands on nice premiums by just collecting coal as you play the game

  • @GandalfTehGray
    @GandalfTehGray Před 4 lety +15

    My Christmas crates, Hood, Huang-he, krasny and Bayard :p saved it from being terrible pull. Got the gascogne in a super container as well at some point.
    On the Nuestrashimy though, I have seen if put to good use for T9 ranked by Destroyer Kuroshiokai.

    • @julian-sark
      @julian-sark Před 3 lety

      ... and then, with the captain skills, they broke Bayard.

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa Před 4 lety

    Nice vid Flamu. I have most of those ships and I quite like them despite their flaws. (Marblehead and her Lima sister especially, I'm a fan of the Omaha cruisers IRL) I've had my eye on the Prinz Eitel and Hood, so your info on those two was very handy.

  • @Markus-zb5zd
    @Markus-zb5zd Před 4 lety +12

    Tbh, I love huanghe.
    The handling, gun characteristics and stealth is nice

    • @jdsmirai6458
      @jdsmirai6458 Před 4 lety +6

      Same but I find her more to be a fun meme ship... mainly because of her god tier AA. In my first match with her I shot down like 50+ planes. I use her pretty much as a DD escort into the caps and find that it works pretty well.. catching CV's off guard when they lose all their planes. Guns are laser beam accurate as well for hitting enemy DD's which is nice too... but with only 6 of them trying to hurt any bigger classes is kind of a pain.

    • @wesgeorge4112
      @wesgeorge4112 Před 4 lety +1

      Unbelievably good AA. Creeping smoke as I come into a cap wreck DDs, torp BBs and cruisers that get too close. Huanghe is a good ship.

    • @junkiexl86
      @junkiexl86 Před 4 lety

      @@wesgeorge4112 "come into a cap wreck DDs, torp BBs and cruisers that get too close. Huanghe is a good ship.
      "
      Doesn't that pretty much sum up any destroyer/cruiser hybrids though? I mean you can win with any ship, regardless of how bad it is, just as you can fail in any ship, regardless of how OP it is. Also, a "fun" ship isn't necessarily a good ship.
      As far as t6 cruisers are concerned, Huanghe is a very subpar ship though.

    • @wesgeorge4112
      @wesgeorge4112 Před 4 lety +1

      @@junkiexl86 Yes that sums up any cruiser/destroyer hybrid, that has creeping smoke and can use it to stroll into a cap haha. Not many ships that can do that. Huanghe has the best concealment of any cruiser in the game. It has outstanding AA which means you won't be targetted by CVs, and if you are, bad for them. Again, these features coupled with travelling smoke allow you to get away with things most other ships would never do.

  • @armymatt83
    @armymatt83 Před 4 lety +47

    I've had vanguard since it came out and it's been fine but interestingly enough it seems to perform better with Jingles in it. Lol

    • @eknight2904
      @eknight2904 Před 4 lety +7

      That is because with Jingles in it, it can autodetect submarines ;-)

    • @truckerallikatuk
      @truckerallikatuk Před 4 lety +6

      She was the last battleship built in the world. Sad how she turned out in game.

    • @armymatt83
      @armymatt83 Před 4 lety +10

      @@truckerallikatuk nothing wrong with her as long as you know how to use her.

    • @Squantanamo
      @Squantanamo Před 4 lety +6

      @@truckerallikatuk she has among the most accurate guns in the game and very high HP for her tier. If you know what you're doing vanguard can be very effective.

    • @mattmac4087
      @mattmac4087 Před 4 lety +6

      Jingles huh? Prolly Vanguard is identified as cruiser then and it gets class bonuses or something :p

  • @soffici1
    @soffici1 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent!
    With the Santa containers WG have presented me with all the crap premiums at tiers 5, 6 and 7.
    Is there any way of getting refunds on the ships you haven’t touched?
    Or an exchange for better ships, maybe?
    Or should I keep them as a shield against getting them again in future drops?
    Thanks for the help

  • @TheExecutorr
    @TheExecutorr Před 4 lety +6

    I got the Huanghe from a container, and it is my favorite premium to play, simply because it needs to be played smart to have any effect. It also comes with that funny walking smokescreen, which is a very nice gimmick against torpedo waves and blindfiring. Overall it lacks firepower though, however with that smoke you can bring yourself in torpedo range. Which is dangerous of course, for you have the lowest health pool of all T6 cruisers. I'd say it's fun because it's challenging :) I wouldn't pay money for it though

    • @monarols4806
      @monarols4806 Před 4 lety +3

      Also got it in a container. With an 8.3 detection range I find it very stealthy. Also, looking at the AA, I have set it up for this. Planes get knocked out (including T8 ones). Best I got was 71 planes against two T6 carriers. I love the Perth so I knew how to play this (and it has better gun range than the Perth)

    • @helloweener2007
      @helloweener2007 Před 4 lety +2

      I bought it for 2.24 EUR on a Steam sale. Was not happy it it the first battles but I'ver learned how to play with it and got much better. It is also my most favorite premium ship to play.
      I love the fact that is has 8.3 km consealment and 4.2 km with firing the main guns in smoke. And the AA is great too. I would buy it again.

    • @TheExecutorr
      @TheExecutorr Před 4 lety +1

      oh yes, the AA and good consealment are absolutely great. I love nuking attack planes, as a DD main I totally enjoy this a lot

  • @TR-kk2bh
    @TR-kk2bh Před 4 lety +1

    Boy am I glad I pulled quite a few of the ships you mentioned out of my christmas containers xD

  • @bishop7534
    @bishop7534 Před 4 lety +17

    Got most of those ships and must say, I use the Hood like a cruiser. 😁

    • @Adzakorrahn
      @Adzakorrahn Před 4 lety +7

      I bought mine when it still had the AA consumable gimmick. Miss that.....

    • @mwnciboo
      @mwnciboo Před 4 lety +1

      Well it sure as hell isn't a Battleship.

    • @6th_Army
      @6th_Army Před 4 lety +2

      Well, it *is* a cruiser. Just with bigger guns.

    • @jagerbombasstic
      @jagerbombasstic Před 4 lety

      This is also how you play the vanguard!

  • @pmyraje
    @pmyraje Před 4 lety +3

    I adore the Marblehead, but T5 is my favourite tier anyway, especially cruisers. I have well over 400 games in my Marblehead and like it so much I also bought the Marblehead Lima (albeit at a huge discount!)

    • @harbinger5425
      @harbinger5425 Před 3 lety

      Let's do a 1v1. I'll bring my Kirov or Furutaka 🙂

  • @OriginalBigPhil
    @OriginalBigPhil Před 4 lety

    great vid hugely surprised by the Blyska but I have been away from the game for awhile so can totally see what you mean by power creep which is a shame as when I first got it, it was a beast to play.

  • @razgrizseele2171
    @razgrizseele2171 Před 4 lety +28

    that's literally all the ships that my friends and me got from santa crates. cool

  • @altm9355
    @altm9355 Před 4 lety

    good you ask for that follow, doesn t cost me a thing. good luck on the 100k

  • @WeepingPegasus
    @WeepingPegasus Před 4 lety +42

    I got all these ships from Santa Crates :(

    • @IceQueenNL
      @IceQueenNL Před 4 lety +2

      lol, me 2

    • @stevenjohnson4796
      @stevenjohnson4796 Před 4 lety +4

      Me to. thought about selling them. Then thought if I do the crate thing next year and the mechanic for dropping ships stays the same these turds will be place holders and I may actually get something worth playing.

    • @wtpiv6041
      @wtpiv6041 Před 4 lety

      @@stevenjohnson4796 That's my reasoning. By keeping these turds I can force the game to give me the actual ships I want. I.E. Missouri, Gulio, Benham, really any of the "rare" ships save for Kamikaze and Musashi which I have now.

    • @junkiexl86
      @junkiexl86 Před 4 lety

      I bought 5, got Missouri. Vowed to never open another one again as my luck would never be that good again in WoWS lol

  • @jarrusjenkins
    @jarrusjenkins Před 4 lety +6

    I have to say, I do well in the Vanguard and Hood....I find them enjoyable to play.

  • @runfox_4780
    @runfox_4780 Před 4 lety

    Love your content FLamu, I agree with your picks I think I got most the ones on your list free, sold the huanghe, it was weak at best, the Blyskawica, is weak, but I enjoy playing it occasionally, the Prince E.Friedrich, I feel its speed helps to make it work, the others I appreciate your avoid info, good tips from someone who has them all I guess.

  • @agoogleuseranonymous2658

    Great review. What do you think about the IRIAN? This is the ship I got and some people say it is bad. I find it not too bad and unique in some way. Not a strong ship but somewhat interesting.

  • @therevanchist1123
    @therevanchist1123 Před 4 lety +9

    Thank god I got the Linen from the Santa crates I love it and I just spent my coal on the Thunderer absolutely a beast of a ship 40k more free xp and I’ll have the Alaska.

    • @CORV3TT33
      @CORV3TT33 Před 4 lety +2

      Linen... pfft time to raise the bedsheet sails...

  • @REYNwashere
    @REYNwashere Před 4 lety +3

    If anything, I just kite away and fire HE at range in the Azuma. The HE damage is not bad, and the fire chance is pretty great, so I pretty much live to annoy battleships untill they land a shell on my ass-end.

  • @ithadtobeaname7327
    @ithadtobeaname7327 Před 4 lety

    Im wondering... what about Graf Spee?
    I mean sure get the Scharnhorst instead but still...kinda curious if you forgot her or if she is not THAT bad :D

  • @tntfreddan3138
    @tntfreddan3138 Před 4 lety +3

    I sank a PUERT RICO yesterday! Felt AMAZING!!!

    • @julian-sark
      @julian-sark Před 3 lety

      I haven't seen one in ages, but whenever I see one, I'm sure to tell the chat to sink the whale and his ship, and preferably by ramming.

  • @REGdestRoy
    @REGdestRoy Před 4 lety

    You didn't mention Le Terrible. Did you forget about it or is it actually usable? I can't seem to make it work in any of my games.

  • @cameronboyce4695
    @cameronboyce4695 Před 4 lety

    Flamu. Would you contend that the Krasny Krym would benefit from a reload buff. Say anything from a 5.5 to a 4.5 second reload as opposed to its current 8 something second reload? While it would not make the ship super competitive I would think that it would make it alot more fun to play.

  • @andrewmoore353
    @andrewmoore353 Před 4 lety +1

    You had Roma in the centre of screen for so long when talking about the gas can that I assumed it was next.

  • @LightMusicBand
    @LightMusicBand Před 4 lety +1

    I was hoping you would include the Poltava and Yudachi in this list. Indomitable and GZ could also be considered.

  • @timebandit9469
    @timebandit9469 Před 4 lety

    Flamu your video made me smile. A friend bought me some Christmas crates as a thank you and I got 5 ships from the crates. Yep you've guessed it...
    Marblehead. Krasny Krym. Genova. Huanghe. Duca D'Acosta.
    That's Wargaming saying give us money for the chance of shit ships. When I thanked my friend for being generous he just said... "I hoped you would get some decent ships. But they just gave you rubbish." That kinda sums up Wargaming just lately. The word REWARD now seems to mean something you will never use and just want to throw away.

  • @ansonkwok3471
    @ansonkwok3471 Před 4 lety +1

    I somehow like the Vanguard and she works for me. I love the actuate guns, as long as you switch between AP and HE is fine

  • @joshuabrown4030
    @joshuabrown4030 Před 4 lety

    Hey, Gorizia serves a really important role of creating more ways to instablap destroyers and US/French cruisers while making it easier for BBabys to park behind hard cover near the map edge with no situational awareness and no repurcussions. Sort of like all the rocket planes.

  • @QuentinousX13
    @QuentinousX13 Před 4 lety

    Well, sadly i'd love to see a vid on all the other premiums, like the "meh" ones. What do you think of the Graf Spee, the October Revolution, the west virginia, the molotov and all the others?

    • @stefanocrosazzo3262
      @stefanocrosazzo3262 Před 4 lety

      Wait, so now Okt Rev and Molotov are mehbotes? Really?

    • @QuentinousX13
      @QuentinousX13 Před 4 lety +1

      @@stefanocrosazzo3262 No when i say meh boats, i mean the one that aren't on the top 10 list but aren't on the bottom aswell, the whole middle pack.

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 Před 3 lety

    Why is 32mm bad bow armor? I checked most T8 ships and did not find any with more than that other than maybe on a tiny part around the waterline.

    • @quocvinhnguyen2063
      @quocvinhnguyen2063 Před 3 lety

      because they can be pen by almost every HE spamer in the game

  • @cesarperez5702
    @cesarperez5702 Před 4 lety

    I was surprised you didn't mention Dunkerque and specially Roma. I love those ships, but I understand why people avoid them like the plague

  • @ehbenson2948
    @ehbenson2948 Před 3 lety

    I have to say I have had good luck with Azuma. Good fire starter and spotter helps keep you out of reach of BB’s. The AP in other cruisers is great...however, as you said, if you annoy a BB ( especially RU ) you are deleted rather quickly

  • @Pliskkenn
    @Pliskkenn Před 4 lety

    I wonder if Flamu has tried Duke of York since they change the Citadel and Heals on it?

  • @Lintary
    @Lintary Před 4 lety

    Got quite a few of these from containers in the past, they tend to mostly slowly rust away in some far of abandoned section of my port.

  • @dagucka
    @dagucka Před 4 lety +1

    Tbh i also like the premium ships under t5, especially the king albert.
    Also the viribus unitis may have low health, but it has the highest ap dmg of its tier. It's really nice to burst cruisers and bbs with it.

  • @keter783
    @keter783 Před 4 lety

    So here's a question Flamu. Just curious about your opinion. Would you rather get more of these types of premiums or more like the Smolensk?

  • @kobeh6185
    @kobeh6185 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a yahagi and for anyone who does have a yahagi, I advise you to keep your distance. 15km range artillery. Almost 40 knots with speed boost, and 12km torpedoes with an 8 torp salvo is impressive at tier 5, so keep far away to stay alive and keep doing damage. You cannot rely on your guns to devastate things at close range like furutaka. Not a great ship but it can work.

  • @eiresby2344
    @eiresby2344 Před 4 lety +7

    you forget Vanguard has 7.8sc rudder (+rudder mod) and decent speed, her conceal is good enough (12.6 km). also her turret is fast enough

    • @Skyline68230
      @Skyline68230 Před 4 lety +1

      with 26s reload of main battery gun, 20km range (which is far enough), and 72k health. As well as not an absolute trash firing angle. He was drunk commenting this ship...

    • @hellroach836
      @hellroach836 Před 4 lety +1

      While I might not agree with the agility comments Flamu made towards Vanguard (the cruiser-like handling with 7.6 rudder shift and FBB speed), it does have a punishingly large citadel. HOWEVER, with the extremely quick rudder and good throttle control, I’ve exposed my broadside to fire all turrets and have my BB angled again when incoming fire arrived to bounce and minimize the damage. Actually got complimented for the “tankiness” of Vanguard when kiting 3+ BBs and escorts.

    • @eiresby2344
      @eiresby2344 Před 4 lety

      Well bad ship just not about Citadel and Angle. What you expect the HMS Vanguard have armor like Germany? Japan? or even Russia? I also disagree with Flamu about Vanguard coz i have this ship and i love this ship even the armor really paper and citadel really high (well all of British BBs have paper armor and high citadel right now, in game)

  • @elgar7252
    @elgar7252 Před 4 lety

    Hey Flamu!
    Had a question - You didn't have Colbert on your Top 10 Premiums to get. Was wondering why you don't consider it a better pick than a few of the other's on the list, especially compared to Ohio?

    • @eiresby2344
      @eiresby2344 Před 4 lety

      colbert its great, Flamu also said if you diasgree with him its okay coz its his opinion

    • @Kampbeltown
      @Kampbeltown Před 4 lety

      Colbert doesn't have a good place as long as Smolensk exists.

  • @dantebollana4246
    @dantebollana4246 Před 4 lety +2

    Damn, can't believe you don't like Vanguard, it's one of my favourite premiums. I have a 70% WRT in it. It's guns reload fast, turrets turn fast, guns are accurate, decent AA, fast rudder shift, plus its just so historical, and sooo sexy.

  • @ddjay1363
    @ddjay1363 Před 4 lety +1

    I've had great games with HMS Vanguard.
    Her manouverability is excellent (for a BB) and I have wriggled my way out of so much trouble in that ship whilst being able to cause lots of trouble to cruisers.
    Dodging shells and even torps is something she can do well.
    The times when I get killed in HMS Vanguard is when I am focused down by multiple ships using endless HE spam.
    It is rare that I just get blatted, it's nearly always when outnumbered when I suffer the most. ;-)
    Going toe to toe with other BB's isn't the best idea unless you have the positional advantage , so concentrating on cruisers is best.
    Baiting other ships to fire a full broadside from range at you is when you dodge and return fire.
    That's one way (and a good one) you can compensate for the poor firing angles of the turrets.
    That's how I use her.
    I've had lots of fun doing it.
    ;-)

  • @marinaruflorin5331
    @marinaruflorin5331 Před 4 lety

    I have enter on twich, but i cant see any video. Pls tell me how to do.

  • @derbroetchen5738
    @derbroetchen5738 Před 4 lety

    Nice Video. Can agree on nearly all ships, but i have to say, that the Vanguard is kinda ok, with its decent AA, Stealth and short rudder shift time.

  • @zsoltlang2144
    @zsoltlang2144 Před 4 lety

    my 1st question is hwy do u have 190k premium currency?
    2nd is how did u get 1T silvers?

  • @starwindlea2819
    @starwindlea2819 Před 4 lety +1

    I liked the Hood... One of my favorite BB currently

  • @JerzeyBoy
    @JerzeyBoy Před 4 lety +1

    I got a Vanguard from a Super Container and I thought I could paint it red, but I couldn't find enough goats.
    So I scrapped it...

  • @thomasbouvier3203
    @thomasbouvier3203 Před 3 lety

    A new one of 2021 would be nice. Lots have change in feeling. Like hood and vanguard are way better now and it tank decently. :)
    Btw what your tough on kii in 2021?

  • @stevenhartman2605
    @stevenhartman2605 Před 4 lety

    I didn't have too much trouble tanking in the Vanguard. It's true that the citadel is big and the firing angles are bad, but the belt armor is very thick so even a shallow angle can protect your citadel at 10+ km. The guns are frustrating, though, the only thing they're good for is HE spamming and they're not even too good at that.

  • @el-osopapu2129
    @el-osopapu2129 Před 4 lety

    excellent video, for when the second part?
    :D

  • @TOFMDrone
    @TOFMDrone Před 4 lety

    if i get a (premium) ship for free, be it trough a supercontainer or a mission, who am i to say no to complete my "collection"

  • @MarkiusFox
    @MarkiusFox Před 4 lety

    I will say, the P.E.F. can be fun as a scenario ship and can be kinda trolly with it's secondaries.

  • @mofosamo
    @mofosamo Před 4 lety +2

    I love my Vanguard. Don`t play it as a BB, play it as a BC and angle your armour. I often punch into those Russian BB citadels with it.

  • @RedSky1895
    @RedSky1895 Před 4 lety

    Got the Huanghe in a crate this week. It's definitely pretty bad and belongs on this list, but I'm not upset at all to have it. I've been really enjoying it, to the point it's quickly becoming a favorite just for being very tactical gameplay.

  • @Kwolfx
    @Kwolfx Před 4 lety

    Your dissing the all powerful the all-powerful Marblehead-Lima? I think I got this thing in a Christmas crate a couple of years ago. The only thing good about it was that it came with a 10-point captain which I could put on another ship.

  • @kevinklingen2420
    @kevinklingen2420 Před 4 lety +1

    Also got all of those ships out of santa crates what a coincidence

  • @twSimulations
    @twSimulations Před 3 lety

    Can you make an updated list for 2021 please?

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 Před 4 lety +5

    Hood is WAY better than Dude of York... Pen matters not... The Hood's gun angles are lightyears ahead of the Dude's, and it's not all or nothing so you don't get overmatched so much. The reload and 1 less repair of the Dude makes it so trash compared to the KGV.
    The Vanguard gets around this as it's rudder shift is so fast. I love it, my win rate in it is north of 60%.

    • @Turner83
      @Turner83 Před 4 lety +1

      I've not had a working PC for over a year but I remember Hood being and excellent ship and a lot of fun to play

    • @narcosman
      @narcosman Před 4 lety +1

      Agree hood with the right playstyle is good

    • @Dyx_DeTcTBa
      @Dyx_DeTcTBa Před 4 lety

      DoY have 3 heals stock for a year or so. It got slightly buffed during balancing pass at RN BB's when all t7+ KGV-style successors got citadel raising above waterline.

    • @TheDOWfan
      @TheDOWfan Před 4 lety

      Hood is very strong in the hands of a good player. However she really can't cit other battleships unless very close & destroyers fuck her up, really lets her down.

  • @perryandcoleswebsite
    @perryandcoleswebsite Před 4 lety

    Sad thing is, I have almost all of these ships. Thank you for these, Santa crates.

  • @heathensein6582
    @heathensein6582 Před 3 lety +1

    please do an update of this video, especially for high tier ships

  • @andrewdias478
    @andrewdias478 Před 4 lety +33

    I know it's a shitty ship but thank you for not including Dunkerque she is my baby.

    • @etienneracine-hebert9870
      @etienneracine-hebert9870 Před 4 lety +5

      Yes, the Dunkerque is my favorite premium.

    • @thabombaa9055
      @thabombaa9055 Před 4 lety +7

      Is the dunkerque really that bad? Ive had decent results in her, i mean not amazing but average

    • @andrewdias478
      @andrewdias478 Před 4 lety +10

      @@thabombaa9055 Yes. She has incredibly inconsistent guns, squishy armor, large citadel, and bad concealment.
      Also, her all forward gun configuration is useless because there are so many ships now that can overmatch her 25mm bow. Not to mention all of the HE spam.

    • @DarkxOver
      @DarkxOver Před 4 lety +3

      @@andrewdias478 shes cute tho

    • @landochabod7
      @landochabod7 Před 4 lety +7

      @@andrewdias478 She's not, really.
      She's fast, even without a speed boost, and she can run away from most things with bigger guns, so she uptiers quite decently.
      She's got quick reload and great muzzle velocity, making it fairly easy to citadel many BBs in your MM spread (NY, Fuso, Izmail, Nagato, KGV...), nevermind cruisers and carriers.
      The only weak point for me is the AA suite.
      The bow armor can be overmatched, but if you stay at some distance, preferably on the flank, you'll present a small, uninviting target, and most enemies will prioritize someone else. I'd call that "psychological/tactical armor".
      Finally, her turret arrangement is great for pushing, as you don't have to compromise between where you're going and where you want all your guns pointing to, so you don't have to zig-zag.

  • @le_floofy_sniper_ducko

    what tier 5 Cruiser isnt a floating citadel slap box?

  • @bent404
    @bent404 Před 4 lety +2

    I loved the gascan with a meme secondary build...
    Until the Mass came out.

  • @Sseltraeh89
    @Sseltraeh89 Před 4 lety

    Did you forgot about Roma or is it not as bad as people say?
    Because i'm about to buy it (purely on accounts of how cool it looks) and i'm rather worried about its performance.

  • @fanatik2134
    @fanatik2134 Před 4 lety

    The coffin joke was on point hhaha

  • @FizzleFX
    @FizzleFX Před 3 lety

    *Just checking if any of mine are on that list* XD
    Hurray XD I DID GOOD!
    My next one is the MAINZ i think. Already got too many DD... but just got Messachusess- not yet used to it but the secondaries are interesting

  • @MicktheRock
    @MicktheRock Před 4 lety

    that sinking feeling when the two ships you got in the boxes are both on this list. :(

  • @horsecrazyviking7121
    @horsecrazyviking7121 Před 4 lety +1

    Krasny Krym is the kind of cruiser you can do a lot of damage especially from citadels and torpedoes if you surprise an enemy cruiser or the enemy just isn’t paying attention. It requires a certain amount of time to get good at it. In my opinion it’s pre-revolution self, Svietlana, is better in the respect of you’re less likely to be fighting tier 6-7 ships with it but I have seen some of the WoWs streamers do very well with Krasny Krym so it can be useful. But it’s best not to waste your doubloons if you’re the tanking type or not going to put a lot of time into playing it.

    • @KyleRoku
      @KyleRoku Před 4 lety +1

      Its really fun to park behind islands and loops shells on other ships, but if you get caught. Bye-o.

  • @JohnBraman413
    @JohnBraman413 Před 4 lety

    what premiums do you recommend for 2020?

  • @TK-fk4po
    @TK-fk4po Před 4 lety +6

    Tachibana Lima. Best .99$ seal clubber you can buy. Ichizuchi is fun too. So ships below tier V are viable.

    • @soffici1
      @soffici1 Před 4 lety

      You should not be sealclubbing, BTW.
      It’s BAD and scares new players away from the game.
      Add that to WG’s brilliant ideas and business practices that manage to piss off everyone else and it’s not a bright future for this game...

    • @TK-fk4po
      @TK-fk4po Před 4 lety

      Antonio Soffici I don’t play them as often as I used to but regardless, especially the Touchybannana is FUN. One does get sick of radar, hydro, Smolensks, and planes. Also, often you play some games down there you run into some other experienced players and it becomes almost a 1 v 1 ranked.

  • @aXemRanger1
    @aXemRanger1 Před 4 lety +1

    The only premium here I bought was the Blyskawica - at the time, it was one of the fastest DDs and have superior fire power to other T7 DDs but as mentioned in the video, the real strength of Blyskawica was invisible firing. Any premium (or regular) ship can be power crept but the fact that WG changed the rules of the game so that the ship you purchased is, in effect, ruined is a slap in the face. I knew what I was buying when I bought the Blyskawica but what I didn't know is that WG would change the game to remove the Blyskawica's primary strength - invisible firing. It's a disgrace that WG didn't allow for Blyskawica owners to trade their ship for their money back (or at least trade for doubloons) and would just screw its customers this way.

  • @falloutghoul1
    @falloutghoul1 Před 4 lety

    How is Viribus Unitus a Tier V battleship?

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi Před 4 lety +1

    Actually Viribus Unitis is a nice little premium IMO: I'm a Potato, and yet my average damage is consistently twice the ship hit points with a very high VR and stats better then my Giulio Cesare. Is it OP? Certainly not, but is reasonably accurate, has a lot of fast reloading guns with good punch and low overpen tendency, it is quite maneuverable allowing to shoot full broadsides and get back to angling without too much of a risk. You need to manage your low HP pool and the large citadel, but when angled is quite trollish and performs reasonably even when Uptered. It's the perfect ship for someone who wants to "Learn" BB basics without the pain of doing that at tier VIII. It's main downfall is the abysmal AA suite, but it teaches you how to keep a low profile, stay away from CV and stick around your Cruisers. It is slow, but this avoids you to get in trouble too fast. Because it's often seen as a joke when uptieared, CV usually tend to ignore it while harassing other players.

  • @chiefbrody7506
    @chiefbrody7506 Před 4 lety

    I have all of the mentioned ships only buying the blyz when it first came out(excluding the neusty). The rest came in Santa Crates. At least their good for snowflakes and gold for future crate duplicates.

  • @dantunsoiu7177
    @dantunsoiu7177 Před 4 lety

    I am surprised that you didn't include Indomitable in the list, I've heard that most of the CCs say that is trash

  • @domi19ht30
    @domi19ht30 Před 4 lety +5

    Gasgogne is not to bad but you know the Player plays with the ships not the ship with the player... Gasgogne got a nice Range too i think ya Vanguard is worst T8 but Gasgogne is way better than the Roma with only 18km lower speed and a big citadel?

  • @zach6643
    @zach6643 Před 4 lety

    My longest hello hello ever

  • @SebaX92
    @SebaX92 Před 4 lety +1

    Some of those ships I do enjoy in fact.
    Vanguard - great maneuverability , turret rotation also good. It’s agile it doesn’t feel so heavy. Good AA too (conqueror level so T6 cv will suffer) and those AP blap cruisers instead of overpenning them like on Roma - which I thought you’ll be unrecommending even more than Vanguard. Gascogne needs reload buff or reload booster module with base reload nerf. I thought you’ll unrecommend the Poltava - surprised me with that. Viribus I got it from Christmas crate and I also was skeptical. But after playing it - oh man it’s not bad at all. Actually I can say it’s powerful being top tier against T4-5 MM. It suffers from CV heavily . But has really good dispersion and blapping power.

  • @NameCannotBeBlank24
    @NameCannotBeBlank24 Před 4 lety

    You see Flamu upload. Premiums to Avoid. The Unicum God Has Spoken... SILENCE!!

  • @Milliondollarcup
    @Milliondollarcup Před 4 lety

    "Thank you for your support on my Dungeon" gachiGASM

  • @Von_DBL
    @Von_DBL Před 4 lety

    Huanghe is definitely a great ship if you play it like a big destroyer. It’s the kind of ship the special modules fits perfectly on. Especially Hydro and Smoke. Captain skills should be chosen wisely to make smoke radius even better. I cannot count how many T8 ships I killed with the Huanghe, ranging from DDs to BBs. One game I even had a perfect double kill with both sides torps in less than 2 minutes.
    Huanghe is an hidden gem. Sure it has drawbacks but it is a versatile ship.

  • @luftpanzer3899
    @luftpanzer3899 Před 4 lety +1

    Funny how the Zara(Gorizia) class cruisers are the most amoured cruisers in WW2, yet WG made them squishy as hell...

  • @Omegawerewolfx
    @Omegawerewolfx Před 4 lety +1

    My first kraken was in a Marblehead Lima. My Huanghe has a 68% win rate. Yahagi isn't great but it's ok, I don't mind it. I got the Blyskawica in a crate so I'm not too worried about it. I understand they're on the list because they don't make exceptional profits.

    • @ruedelta
      @ruedelta Před 4 lety

      You have Huanghe at 68% win rate? How do you do it? I'm seriously stumped with 47% WR despite 62k average damage.

  • @thorsmith59
    @thorsmith59 Před 4 lety

    LMAO Got most of these in santa crates. you're right about most of them but I really enjoyed the Gorizia. You do get ignored by BB's a lot which lets you just peck away with SAP at their superstructure and it is absolutely death to DD's and most CA's. I regularly hit DD's that get spotted out to near max range. If i just had one more smoke charge i would even be more effective.

  • @damiandorhoff719
    @damiandorhoff719 Před 4 lety

    The Prinz Eitel Friedrich is my number1 favorite Premium Ship. Followed by warspite, Atlanta, Molotow, Graf Spee and Murmansk.
    I Play her as a Brawler and never had Problems with the armor thanks to the great firing angles and the turtleback.
    I use it as a Sealclubber for Tier 6 and my favorite Victim is the Ismail.
    The Ismail is a Floating Citadell who Needs to give broadside to shoot more than one turrret.
    If the Ismail is not running away i will push up and simply kill it.
    No wonder that the PEF is the thirrd best BB at Tier 6 after Arizona and West Virginia when you lock at the EU-Stats.

    • @TheLiamis
      @TheLiamis Před 4 lety

      Warspite is the only RN BB they didnt completely ruin. The rest are trash.

  • @wyrm2970
    @wyrm2970 Před 4 lety +6

    Premiums to avoid : Hood, Huangmeh.
    Me this Christmas :
    "Let's buy some mega santa container !"
    Containers : I am gonna end this man whole career !
    Me : get Hood + Huangmeh (+Exeter wich is not so bad)...
    My wallet is currently angry at me.

    • @tomekes5782
      @tomekes5782 Před 4 lety +1

      I also got Exeter form crates and boy oh boy do I think it sucks balls.