IJN Azuma [WiP] - Great Guns, Trash Armor
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2019
- The Azuma has been moved from T10 to T9 and gone through some changes. The 30mm armor plating is gone, as is a large chunk of health. Instead the dispersion has been improved significantly. You can find my recommended build at the end as usual.
- Hry
![T10 IJN CA Yoshino [WiP] - A Solid Tier X](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/C8rMfgnF9kI/mqdefault.jpg)
As I mentioned in the vid, I recently hit 60k followers on Twitch and to celebrate that I'll be giving away a bunch of WoWs related stuff, such as multiple premium ships and CC containers (which can also contain ships), in 2 days, on Friday. Going live 14:00 CET Friday on Twitch and probably streaming all day.
Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu
Discord: discord.gg/Flamu
Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz
*Noice*
Congratulations!
just out of curiosity, how does it work?
just like twitch container?
watch and you'll get some?
or do you give that away to specific users?
also, congrats! like what you are doing.
I don't see why you assess the weakness of the armor by looking at the damage from inaccurate ships. They can be inaccurate but when they land a shell on your ship, they have the same penetration value and they make the same damage. Massachusetts shells have about the same penetration and damage as the NC when they land on the target.
@@VuHien2011
The armor is weak and the size is huge. Even poor accuracy ships manage to hit many shells on an angled azuma and cause insane dmg
I like the fact that flamu is always explaining things so clearly and makes an average potato like me so easy to follow it. Considering you're giving out a great deal of information and analysis through out the video, I wonder if you're doing it off script. Either way I think you got some quality presentation skills right there and you're amazing.
Wow that's great to hear, thank you
I'm a carrot
@b flambass?
@b wrong mate , flambass as others have pointed out but also fara , strangers , notser are all top top players who all bring different things to the table plus you have aeroon , atothek ,virtualsenpai and those are just the ones i can think of off the top of my head lol
Yeah, pretty close list, missing Runner and fara is only Unicum at CVs but I think you gather most of the more skilled ones
When a Massachusetts is capable of consitently citadel you, you know the ship has survivability issues
Never underestimate Masachusettes main gun. It is same as NCs but only the gunners are drunk.
@@jayvee8502 Hence why Massachusetts has such awesome secondaries. Drunk gunners going trigger happy on their smaller guns!
@@Nelsonwmj More like NC secondary gunners ditched NC for Massachusetts for the booze
@@jayvee8502 What a Hoot but so true ! LOL
@@rebol6497 Stop it you guys are killing me LOL
More passive boats.. just what we needed
ha ha yup. Like the game isn't passive and static enough as it is? WTF is wrong with WG??
nah we need more cv reworks man!
@@donfitz69 Russia had the best Navy in WW2, haven't you heard?
@@canuckster24 Sure did! They even had super ships made of paper.
Islands never stop needing love, you know?
Congrats on the milestone. Your commentary is top notch. Keep up the excellent work.
At least Zao Citadel is so well designed that even though ships will overmatch you all day, 90% of them will always be over penetrations!
Congrats my dude, thanks for all your advices!
WG be like: Well, looks like we're out of gimmicks to give to the Azuma, let's just make it not as good as other super cruisers then. Besides, we're still a bit butthurt about Tsushima.
congrats on the 60k on twitch. it wasnt that hard to tell you'd get that, you are what i class the yard stick of this game on knowledge, skill and entertainment.
Thank you for making my decision between the Alaska and Azuma so easy.
I like it that Albert Maurer is the skipper on the IJN ship. ^^
congratz on 60k followers on Twitch dude!
Another great video...thank you.......
SUPERCRUISER AZUMA: "the ship is fantastic until people start shooting at you"
Mmm...
They made a ship as visible as a Donskoi, big as a Kronstadt but as fragile as a Neptune. Slow clap WG.
Sometimes i wished you had a bit more historical backround in the ships you talk about. For example the Musashi is not only a sister ship of the Yamato (both build and sunk in WW2) but also the Musashi was finished in the setup the Yamato has in game and the Yamato was finished the way the Musashi is in game and the got upgraded to her "second" state.
1:14 RNG trolling hard. Massachusettes dispersion suddenly similar to NCs
What i have problem with this ship was how thry handled this change. They ignored everyone saying this was a brutal nerf for a fragile ship, and even go to the point of saying "it was a improvement for better gameplay role".
I only hope Yoshino is at least the old Azuma
Azuma just became a really, really large Mogami/Ibuki :p Also, didn't the Ibuki have the same 25mm all-around as Mogami? Have to check when I'm back at home.
Before she was kinda like Zao but without torps, now she's kinda like Ibuki but without torps.
Ibuki has some 30mm deck parts
So Azuma is a large Ibuki.
Alaska is a large Baltimore.
it seems to be a yamato class Zao...armor seems like thin yamato armor, about half the normal one.
@@jayvee8502 yeah except you lost torpedos too :D
Glass cannon sounds very interesting 😄
LOL Missouri goes broadside to a Musashi and to top it off, beaches itself!
Shit armor is ok in my book, there's enough HE meta already, if i can get some damage back in a BB (that is supposed to counter cruiseres), i won't complain at all. but give it hydro to deal with DDs, especially when it steers like a brick.
This is like an oversized molotov (massive size, terrible handling, huge turning circle, non existing armor, spotting planes, extremely good guns). So anyone that love the molotov might love this one, exactly the same play style.
Have you tried sailing full broadside against BBs? I'm thinking that since the armour is so bad, the shells might pass through without fusing. IDK if that will work or if WOWS mechanics are that detailed though.
Was really excited of t10 yamato zao hybrid.
Looks like Azuma is yet just another vile plot thought up by THE MAN to keep a Brother Down!
Hang on a minute, I thought that WG recently said that they wanted to reward angling on high tier cruisers? I call it bullshit. Unless they are refeering to cruiser vs cruiser fight only.
Oh shit, can't wait for the tier 10 super Azuma XD
Old Azuma felt better. Why would I want great guns when every bb can punish for simply existing.
I guess for balance purposes. Imagine, You have great guns and great armor. You become a very very hard target to kill. WG probably wants you to be more skillful when playing this ship. Extremely powerful Premium ships must have downsides.
@@Sanctuary-si1qt What is the downside of Stalingrad?
Because it was a fair ship. They can't allow IJN to have a ship that is decent to its place at the very least.
@@Sanctuary-si1qt Someone with some sense. If WG would had given it awesome armor AND awesome accuracy, almost everyone would be whining how OP it is. There is no middle ground with most people on social media.
@@user-dp4ok9ox5w No. The problem with this ship is the design. This ship is anti middle ground. You give it an excellent feature whereas the others suck. Badly so, if I might add. It's just another one trick pony and nothing more. Sure it has great guns, but that's about it. This is in no way balanced design. Some people might like glass cannons, but I believe that the majority doesn't. Also, nowhere in my previous comments have I said that this ship should have specifically had amazing armour as well. I said the old azuma felt better, with the worse guns but better survivability. I'd rather live long enough so that my average guns can deal damage, than get 30k-ed from a massachusetts.
Damn, i was really hoping for more Armor, or at least something to make it alittle better...IDk if this is good enough to make my wish list!
Every BB who is shooting Azuma will feel like they are yamato and they are shooting cruisers..
You are now internet-niche famous! Congratz, dude! And also congratz to fatso for putting up with chats' sh*t all the time ;)
Looking forward to see the Yoshino. You think it'll be exactly like the tX Azuma was?
Q - Why does Flamu say Hello twice?
A - Once from his mouth, second time from his five-head.
Is that a stream insider?
Hydra?
@@OneofInfinity. i know but what does hydra have to do with him?
At least she has fantasic accuracy.
I manage to do really well with this ship, it might not be for everyone but it's definitely the right ship for me :)
If it looks that squishy maybe giving it improved citadel heal potential would be a nice buff,from 30% to 40%, make you tank a bit with raw hp and not relying on armor
I pumped 3 salvos of Baltimore AP into a broadside Azuma at ~8KM being played by a tester without citadeling him a couple of days ago. The Armor seems fine.
You guys wanted ships with big citadels, here they come haha
I like the ship but really that citadel is insane oof!
It has excellent armor.
I want this ship, since that accuracy seems awesome. I just hope it is not for steel!
Nice review thanks.
And no reason to buy the Azumo, clearly. Appreciate the heads up.
The T9 Omaha
That survivability at first glance would seem to be a bit of a deal breaker. If just about any sort of BB can trash you with a lucky salvo from just about any angle seems pretty bad, especially when one considers things like Stalingrad/Kron/Alaska as you pointed out.
Not sure the game needs another ship more or less forced to sit at max range plinking away.
Seems an ultimate glass cannon. I should think a smart team (yeah, I know, what are the odds?) would focus it given the opportunity.
Salary has arrived. Time to get myself a treat
I was excited about Azuma being free until I saw just how this ship is almost exclusively made out of citadel....As squishy as worcester and much bigger oh god
Looking forward to the Yoshino and this, but I really question how the Azuma and Yoshino can compete with their Russian counterparts.
Lol Azuma has awesome guns compared to Kronstad and Kronstad has 25mm armor everywhere and a giant citadel. Not even speaking about Donskoi (these are only Soviet ships that it can be compared to now).
The Kron does have that ridiculously well armoured belt though which can ricochet even yamato shots if angled well enough, how does the Azuma compare in that regard?
@@luketfer
kron baits citadel shots at the front citadel...but its side armor is much longer so the weak part is far in the front
@@luketfer Kronstad has its historical 230mm belt armor value. Azuma has 25mm outer armor then 178mm citadel armor belt behind it, with IJN style turtleback from what i have seen. Kronstad has two massive weakpoints in its armor below its front and rear turrets Kronstad citadel is not that big in the middle but it has two huge bulges in the front and the rear which are extremely easy to penetrate even for light cruisers.
@@cobrazax Both front and rear of Kronstad are extremely weak. Azuma will be awesome with the long range mod. That accuracy is something Kronstad can only dream of.
Well done ... Is very soft like sailboat soft lol
Yeah I was looking forward to this ship. Not getting it if it ends up like that.
thyu must of put some buffs on the Azuma in the past year...because i love this ship.
Well, if this is what the Japanese get, what will the British get? HMS Furious with 2 single 18” guns? Every single line is in a weird place, so wouldn’t shock me, but all the British premiums are what we wish the main lines were!
WG give Azuma torps give her torps torps TORPS
Are there german or RN supercruisers planed?
Ok Flamu i ask you this, Why would i want to play the Azuma when i can play the Mogami with it's 15x155MM guns and a 9.5KM detection range and torps, I mean both of them can get cit anyway i just don't get this ship...
For 750k or 1 million free exp, I will just free exp my way to the Zao or Ibuki instead. The fact that can get the Zao instead of this makes me wonder "Why play this ship at all?"
Another ResidentSleeper premium
Is there any reason left to get this ship??? Plz answer
No point buying this anymore, might as well got for the alaska.
No the alaska is pretty similar too. They raised the citadel for it so you will get rekt pretty badly in that. Probably better armor though so angling should work a lot better.
when u got almost 5M fxp like me...there is always a point :P
still...Azuma armor seems like a thin Yamato layout...bad
@@MikoMuru Better AA, would have radar or Hydro and Def AA since its US ship so imo its going to be better even if you lose out in dispersion.
WG will probably nerf the Alaska again too. They have been making some terrible decisions lately.
@@Margate1989
they already did with citadel size...i dont think they will nerf it even more.
So basically this ship is a cross between a zao, and a ibuki. Also because it is a new super cruiser i expect it to be focused heavily
Azuma and DM, whitch one has the better armor?
Shells land on deck, that doesn't matter if angeled or not, isn't it ?
My only wish, is that i should have bought azuma years ago. Azuma is very good.
You think it's because the Mass has high shell arcs? USN heavy AP + plunging fire + weak deck and citadel roof armor?
Any BB (except the scharnhorst) can overmatch and hit the citadel of this ship from any angle. This is not just the USN AP showing it's strengths.
@@saltefan5925 - I'm an idiot. I made this comment before viewing the armor model at the end of this video.
51mm HE pen is going to make it good at eating up soviet bbs and probably Stalingrads
IJN for you... to me this looks like Mosva gun with Ibuki armor.
They really need to buff all the armor make things slightly more tanky besides direct shots.
Rather just wait for the yoshi coin to arrive.
Just a side-note here, is there anyone who is gonna get this pile of gun 25mm platform instead of the Alaska if they are both released 1mil free exp. By all means i'm interested to hear arguments from either side. I'll be waiting.
@@idontfeelsogood152 pff I wont be getting anything for 1 million free XP, I would need half a year to farm that and I got a musashi for 25% less
@@lidlpotato2047
well...i do have almost 5M fxp so i guess ill get it as i got all fxp ships AND all T10 ships in the game already
@@idontfeelsogood152 I am, because that accuracy is insanely good. So is Kronstad a floating 25mm platform, but its inaccurate af, unlike Azuma.
@@lidlpotato2047 yea,, i ain't getting either Alaska, nor Azuma myself. Way too much xp grinding for a semi casual player like myself. On the other hand tho, i'm looking forward to the Yoshino since its coal and i have some in reserve.
The ship is huge, clumsy and has weak armor. I definitely won't spend any resource on it. If Yoshino is similar, I'll skip it too. They'll have to improve the armor at least in order to make the ship attractive and not just stand as a huge floating citadel attracting long range BB shells.
Never compare a ship to a Russian one, they call it Russian bias for a reason, anyways grats for the 60k ^_^
Flamu if you can, can you let us know when Alaska might come out. I really am looking forward to it
WG shit on IJN again
no, WG always shit on IJN.
Honestly, it's getting ridiculous. I'll just buy Alaska.
Shitting on IJN? At least they are getting new things at all. We Germans haven't seen any new things that aren't low tier premium DDs for pretty much 2 years now, and the high tier cruisers even got nerfed :c
Better get something than getting ignored
@@lidlpotato2047 I rather got nothing than getting more garbage.
Sometimes I believe they are still mad about the Russo-Japanese war.
we need scharnhorst's armor with azuma's gun
wondering how the tier10 will be
Whelp I was going to grab this ship but I remember how frustrating playing the Missouri was before they lowered the citadel and if that ship frustrated me, then this won't be the ship for me.
So the Azuma Is an Emerald with Actual guns? Like a Hairbrain design from a British Armor Designer and a Japanese Texan? Let´s use paper for speed, and a HUUGE Rifle for damage.
reminds me of Kron... It is more tanky overall, but that 25mm bow.. Was surprised when i learnt that i could overmatch the bow of it... but not Buffalo :/
nagato experience all over again
at least nagato's guns can overmatch all ships at tier 7
And it has the highest health pool at tier 7, so it is at least tanky in that regard
@@user-gk2vw6cz6d well good gun trash armor right?
@@lost4356 this is worse in her tier in my opinion
I do feel these battle cruisers are better compared to the battleships and cruisers of their tier instead of just to the cruisers as battle cruisers in game behave a lot more like fast lightly armored and armed battleships than they do like cruisers of their tier. But their weapons and armor are too weak to classify them as battleships so they end up being called cruisers even though they act more like battleships.
She's worth it, got 200k with her in my 2nd match.
I hear that WoW is going to make Jingles a captain in its game..... Are you planning on getting him?
I can't believe I'm saying this...
I'll take the ibuki.
viribus unitis captain on azuma? what sorcery is this?? O.O
where is my alaska
I bet you 50 bucks that WG will nerf the Alaska either before it is released or shortly after. I will wait and see what happens before wasting 1 million fxp or I could join the dark side and get the T10 Russian BB Kreml when it comes out.
@@Margate1989 hahah well said
with 0.8.1? Hopefully...
@@lostinthesky1381 the summer is coming
of 2050
I can see a glass cannon, I think
"It ain't pretty."
-Flamu 2019
Sometimes when I accidentally citadel an enemy and surprisingly I get a citadel ribbon pop up in my screen I get scared. I get scared thinking what my shell just lewd.
So yeah I agree Azuma is really scary to have in enemy team. **Laughs in izumo**
*before I get in to the ship, I have just lost three n00b teammates *
Another long-range HE-spamming camper ... marvellous design choise, WG !!
atleast give it a hydro and a little bit better turret turn plz :D
I love the idea of a ship that everything about it besides concealment and guns is awful. But the Guns are godlike and are better than Yamato with American Piercing Ammo.
I am always dreaming of having teammates like flamu.
A tier 9 cruiser complains about being easy to citadel...
... at hearing this a Neptune dies laughing!
concealment and smoke?
@@theverybigshow iven if you don't have a spotter plane, it's not hard to citadel one while in smoke just from looking where the shots come from.
If you have a spotter... well, I'll just say that I've dev-striked one that had never even yet been spotted, and thought they were safe in smoke behind an island...
They might as well rename her A-Kuma
another ibuki!
so tier IX pensacola?
Tier 9 version of the *old* pensacola
@@saltefan5925 there is a new pensacola?
@@winterlast6451 Before they remodeled the citadel and moved it to tier 6
yoshino gameplay comming soon? :)
Right... So the only one Cruiser without radar W.G releases will go down in flame faster than a Dunkerque. W.G really have turned into a commercial-first operation, this game certainly doesn't need more radars (who said that once upon a time?), but ships to counter them, support DDs and unlock caps. We're not gonna be able to do that if this ship can't operate in open waters.
When do they plan to release them?
Lol, he's surprised about getting citted while angled? This shit happens to me constantly from cruisers and bbs in all my ships. My kronshtadt was reasonably durable until the Alaska was released. Now it's as fragile as my Buffalo.
Well another long range HE spam ship. Kinda glad to have those 310s, but that armor...
EDIT: Also, wouldn't be an interesting alternative to go for double rudder on this ship? Since you already lack radar and concealment itself isn't that fantastic in the first place.
Man wargaming never know when to give Japanese ships a break.
So we get a BB sized cruiser who is easy to citadel and with this weak against BB and DD doesn't sound very promising for me.
and most HE (hello cruisers)
... and rockets
... and all types of dive bombers